From Celebrity Agent to Recovery: Darren Prince’s Untold Story with Sean Callagy

list goes on and on with, and if this man that was classified in special education and

“the great state of New Jersey, if he could do it, why can't you?”

I felt like superpan. I was on top of the world. I felt just like, just as poplar, just as good looking.

I never had this feeling to put on my life, so, and I found that I was taking a look with

them all. I just didn't sweep away camp. 14 years old. So 14 years old, you become a successful entrepreneur. By 19, Darren Prince sells his first business for $1 million, how to do that.

My dad sat me down, he said words, "That changed my life forever and gave me the leaf, but I've noticed something with your play and with the numbers. That's mesmerizing that number." And we're going to tap into that too to become a success. I don't know how much to do in the legendary point, take those first fight in the bottom

with. And he looks at Joe at the other hand. He could have scurola. But then Joe was like smiling at that smurf, that's when he just dropped it and he hit of it.

Man, we just made it out of fact there.

“Am I going to kick your ass again for a fourth fight?”

Am I homied? Literally starts spitting his food, adding with the laughing so hard. I think Hulk was the one that humbled me on his down in, clear ridder of each, and he looks at me. I can't stand my shoulder, but rather, these people still treat me like I'm heavily

at the champ of the world and that's a blessing. I think I'll think of this today in vulnerability, it's truly a superpower.

You know, I'm only talking about getting to the top, but never being fulfilled.

And you and I got to the top, but we know how to be fulfilled. We know it's not always about being at the top, but getting others there. Hey Sean Cali here with the unblinded podcast where we help you see what you may not see, but exponentially grow on your money, time, your magic, with heart and integrity. And we have a miraculous master in the building today and take Nicole Mayelo, who's here.

Imagine a world where legends are built under the brightest light, and then imagine the rare figure, the one those legends trust when the lights go out. A kid from New Jersey didn't just dream of greatness, he earned his way into the inner circles of icons, Muhammad Ali, Magic Johnson, Hulk Hogan, but here this clearly, who wasn't there as a fan, he became the man they relied on, the man they trusted, the man who stood

beside greatness as part of what sustained it. Because while the world's thought champions, they saw Darren Prince, and that distinction is everything, over $500 million deals, decade representing some of the most iconic figures on the planet, and even invited to the White House to help shape the conversation around the opioid crisis.

Because access like that isn't given, it's earned through character, through trust, through becoming the kind of man, legends, to keep clothes. And like every two icon, his path wasn't easy, he faced adversity, and he rose. Today he is more than one of the most respected agents in the world, he is a leader in recovery, a voice of truth, an author, and a force for good, because true greatness isn't

who you stand next to, it's who you become, and how many lives are better because of it. But welcome to the Sean Calgary and Blinded Podcasts, a man trusted by icon, respected as their peer, the one the only Darren Prince. See if you're Darren Prince, ladies and gentlemen, my brother to take. Do you know that guy that guy, Darren Prince, that we're talking about?

How does that feel to be that person, if we have so much to cover today, I want to give you a couple of headlines, like the power of identity and fame, recovery, why people make choice to do to feel better for you, value everywhere today with an icon, working with icons. So my brother, how does that feel to have that be you?

I mean, I'm thinking as she was speaking probably, you know, 1819 years before I got sober, I would have really been a great ego boost, but the more she kept talking, it's just my gratitude towards God and the fact that, you know, humble me for the right reasons,

because you know, I'm always talking about getting to the top, but never being fulfilled.

There's a lot of people out there that live in that frequency. And you and I got to the top, but we know how to be fulfilled. We know it's not always about being at the top, it's about getting others there, taking

“others to the journey, up the life to be the best thing.”

Amen, my brother. Amen, my brother. Amen, my brother. And for everybody, this is the first time you're listening, like, oh, like why, like a hypey intro. It's not a hypey intro.

It's the truth, because and this is like the perfect context for Darren Prince today to

The things, the wisdom, the advice that some people gave you, maybe your grandmother, grandfather,

“maybe your mother, father, maybe it's your child, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, it doesn't”

land the same way. As when it comes from people who've achieved things that feel impossible, or at least aspirational for you. So these introductions are so you can understand what these people have done, but if Darren Prince stands for anything and live your comments on this, it is the distinction of humility

and not false, modest. The heat promotes some of the most impactful humans in the world and he's one of those people himself and also he's a humble man, but the humility doesn't change the fact that he knows whom a homerally Joe Fraser, Hulk Hogan, David Goggins, magic Johnson, he understands and appreciates the doors, their identity and accomplishments open.

So more to come on that topic for today, but you're such a humble man and you've been through a ton of your life and what does humility mean to you and why do you believe

“it's so essentially a foundation before you get to fame and impact an identity?”

Let's talk about humility and what does it mean to you, Darren? I mean for me, I think it's everything. I think when I fell on my knees on July 2, 2008, screamed out to God to take the notoriety to business, the money, that all I needed was a single day of freedom, if he takes me at my own personal health from my own beauty addiction, that I would go back into a hell

one day to tell him he'd take others out and I think there was just a shift in me and a very moment where the ego is crushed because I think ego comes from a place of unresolved trauma and a lot of us, I think ego comes from a place of insecurity, I think ego comes from place of feeding instant validation for some unresolved wounds that we all have for all killing our own life and I think once you can get into place of humility, you're

almost full of things like I'm new to getting wrapped into that, look at me, look at

“you, look at what I've accomplished, look at it, not about that.”

Well, so my brother, let's take it from the beginning quickly, so 14 years old, you become

a successful entrepreneur by 19, Darren Prancels his first business for $1 million, kid

from New Jersey and we're talking in 19, late '80s, might as that tracking, right, late '80s, a million dollars then is a lot more than a million dollars today and it's still being a credible accomplishment today, but how, and we're going to put this to the prism of the unblind the formula in a minute, but in Darren, your words, how to do that, of course hard work, of course caring about people being good to people, but you had to have some

how to strategy involved and from your heart, how to do that. And then my father was incredibly packed and packed full on my life back then and I had a moment with an intuitive business teacher where, giving a little bit more about my back story, you know, he's a small classroom growing up, special aid and had a live anxiety and, most of my friends went to bigger classrooms, so when I got home after school

school during the day, it was in a bad homework, it was about immersing myself to the old baseball court, that was almost like my therapy and I studied all the players, new all the stats and after this intuitive business teacher challenged us to go in the creative

business, I had one in my mind, I just never execute it, everything was in shoe boxes

with prices and what they were worth and my father challenged me and said, well, who's going to buy these things and I had a newspaper at in what system for you that still exists in Livingston, about a car chose happening to weeks, oddly enough, Stephen Simon, you know, runs working with me and he's here with us in the money attention to her tent, we decided to split a table for $10 each and I went in as if with that strong colleague in my

set, I was training for the Olympics, he just wanted to come along and have fun, so I spent two weeks at basically a whole day and made over a thousand dollars on that Sunday afternoon and that was at the light bulb on in my dad's head, my dad sat me down, he said words, that changed my life forever and gave me belief, he's like, I understand your friends most of them to think this by their brains work with this way, but I've noticed something

with your play and with numbers, that's mesmerizing that none of them have and we're going to tap into that too, you could become a success, all right, so your dad had an enormous impact you would later suggest that you write aiming high when it's all that comes clear, we'll get to that in a little bit, so there, no, teachers, special egg classes, how, how was that educational model, where their people putting limitations on you that

you feel limited in the traditional educational model, where did you have great support systems from the teachers around you, like, what was that like in that educational model before you had this breakout entrepreneurial success?

friend, in fact, when my mother passed away, I know, November of 24 in you and your

keen came to her funeral, the teacher was at the funeral and he was sitting like right

“behind you, I remember specific looking at when they did the ulogy, and that's how much”

she impacted my life, and tells me every time I see each other that there was a point where late teens, you wanted to become an agent, and I said, somebody asked to do it, and I said, now I'm not smart enough, I don't think I could do it, and that one. Wow, and what type of diagnoses were being thrown at you, and how were you receiving them, how was your family receiving them, like, what was the environment around you?

Yeah, the words were cool back then, I mean, there was no social media, but obviously idiot, obviously don't want obviously one of its verbally bullied, I don't think the understood what ADD was, attention to office disorder, because my father also noticed that with something I took interest in, I excelled better than anybody else, and you know when I look back at it, so I'm not to get too much into it now, but you know, that sort of emotional

abuse from the teachers, not getting the support from friends, and the teachers I still

“even mean small classrooms, making me feel less than everybody else, that's why drugs came into”

play, I think you'll hold. And so because Darren, the value of this, I would hope for some, is maybe there's a 15, a 20, a 25, a 30, a 35, a 40, a 45, a 50, a 50, a 50, a 50, a 60, and if you're any of those ages, or in your 70s, and you're sitting here, and

you've never come to grips with some of the trauma of classification, bullying, framing, this man did, and he created,

arguably the greatest reunion in sports history, or American sports history, one of the greatest unions, and just cultural history, and this man had many of those things that you've been told about yourself by teachers, by friends, maybe even your family, and Darren, what would you say? To anybody from 15 to 75, who had some of those same traumas, about their ability to get to a remarkable place, and not just to move through addiction, but to actually achieve impact and success in the world, please.

“Yeah, I think it's never too late to change your present and change your future. You know, we're not, we're not what our past is, whether it was a teacher, a mother, father, sister, brother, relationship, job, we are whatever could have been.”

There's only so much that, you know, you could start the past. It was like yesterday's history, Morris and mystery, today's the present, by the quality gift, and it's the ones that go deep into that, you know, healing of meditation and mindset work and not pointing fingers, just booning the situation and leaving it exactly where it is to come in higher self. And if you, you know, on the title, aiming high, and obviously there's a number of different ways you're referring to that, what would you say is a mindset principle foundationally?

For the people listening out there, that I've had those challenges, and maybe in people who haven't, if you had one mindset sentence to give to people, if you could have seen, stall it inside of them, what would that be? It's a mindset sentence. I am enough. I think that's where, you know, most people doubt themselves, they don't know if they can do it, they feel of a prisoner of the past. And I think just constantly repeating to yourself, you are enough, and words of affirmation are very, very powerful.

And I thank you for everybody. I have a personal relationship with Darren. We do a lot together. I don't easily use the word friend. I call Darren a friend. I love him as beautiful. The answer. And the impact in the world this man creates, and the very podcast you're watching has been consistently in our rank number one, number two, in Apple Business podcast.

It would never be here without a couple of people, but Darren Prince is one of those folks.

We've had magic Johnson on this podcast, Charlie Sheen, Ralph Machio, many others that are associated with this man and many more to come. And massive massive gratitude. So I just want to thank you on a personal level Darren for everything you've done to make this what it is. And the impact you've had in my life, because while I've had the blessing privilege of never struggling with drugs or alcohol substances, you know, you do feel like, who might be interviewing magic Johnson, who might be sitting down now with Ralph Machio, the karate kid. So we all had that struggle in challenge.

And I couldn't agree more this brother. You are enough.

But first, let's step into this journey that at some point a desire to feel better comes into your life.

“We all have that desire. We all want to feel better. And what were some of the choices you were making that were positive in ways to feel better?”

I'm sure entrepreneurship was one of them. And some of the ways that negative choices of how to feel better came into your life, Darren. Well, it's a double edge story, but drugs, especially opiates, because, you know, opiates become a super power at a certain point where it allowed many fields to free and so unstoppable and so confident certain environments. But then when I'd be home at night or after a long trip or, you know, in my home wherever I might have been by myself in my own head, I was back into a prison that I had no idea how he's going to escape this cycle.

I tell people off and Sean, I wasn't a bad person. I was a sick person. But we've finally get better.

It's never any like ill will or evil to me, even when opportunities become my way always practice. But magic and my dad told me about paying it forward and blessing our opinion else.

I just had a lot of stuff that I had a, you know, work going to like author. And we were at the beginning of like what was the first choice that took you down that path? So it would have been July 1st, 2008, again, I'm going to mention, excuse me, it was there on my mind. No, I mean, going down the path of addiction. Oh, addiction in the first place, even using like how, yeah. So, so as far as the using, obviously in the sleep wake camp, 14 years old, a terrible stomach pains one night and the control it took me to see the nurse, I took this Korean cloth syrup type of liquid and it tasted terrible within five minutes,

every inadequacy went away. I'm welcome back to the pork, I felt like Superman. I was on top of the world. I felt just as smart, just as popular, just as good looking. I'm now the talkative one at the, at the bunker, all the guys are laughing with me.

I started learning with the girls in the bunk. Now, I've never had this feeling before my life short.

So, I woke up the next day, did all the activities in the sleep wake camp, and I learned how to lie in con, and at very next night, I killed over in the bunk, because I wanted to capture the tape in the infirmary. It went out for three weeks until my mom and dad came out for visitation day. And I found that I was taking a look with them wrong. Wow. So, for everyone out there, I want to ask Darren this next, but we can choose different ways to feel better and feel worse. And we all want to feel more confident. We all want to feel more included. We all want to feel stronger and more powerful, more loving, more abundant, more generous.

And what I'm hearing from you, Darren, and I've never done a drug in my life. I thank God for the blessing of that. But what I'm hearing is the great challenge is people don't know how to get that. And it's so accessible in the beginning through substances. I'm hearing that correctly. Absolutely. Absolutely. And now more than ever. And so, for folks that, if you can go back and talk to a 14-year-old or talk to a 14-year-old itself, not just saying, "Hey, say no to drugs like Nancy Reagan's style."

But if we're sitting there, we do want those positive feelings.

“What would you suggest to people, would be that pathway, and what do you do now to feel better instead?”

I think it just needs to be more of an open conversation. Definitely notice some influencers and some prominent famous people talking about their own struggles. I think authenticity and vulnerability is truly a superpower. You know, I look what it's done for me and the amount of people I've been able to help. I also think a quick fix for a lot of people when we're stuck in our own head, and it's a vibration and frequency when I live by. I think the more we serve other people. I think the more we get at our own head and help with other people up, help other organizations.

You know, just get out of that noise between our two ears. It's a phenomenal fix to fill up real self-esteem, real self-worth, real self-love, peace and fulfillment. And I think we might share another really bizarre behavior that could be helpful for people. And if I'm wrong, just please tell me wrong.

“But do I remember hearing that you at this incredible mansion party out in the mountains, and you might have disappeared under a table to do something?”

Am I remembering this correctly? Yeah. Yeah. And what was that something? Was that with my ammo?

Yes. Yeah. I just, I mean, I was just at my mind, just the behavior of what was going on. I was, you know, I think I was on steroids and I'll check stuff then.

And always wanted entertainer with the attention on me.

And I mean, but there was still one experience. It's like that. You know, and I left it to my guy friends now. You remember all the great night of your lives, but anybody that's here recording your production team. But we talk about the best nights of our lives in that moment.

That next day you wake up with your friends or whatever your crew was. You don't remember any of this greatest night of your lives. You cannot secure and tell me. I remember the top what? Yeah.

So, do you still do push ups? Do you still do push ups? I do not. But not publicly. I do.

Yeah. So how? So this is so fascinating to me because when people ask me, like, why don't you drink? Why don't you do drugs?

“And like, wow, you must be really disciplined.”

I'm like, no, I just hate feeling bad. Like. And so I'm very present to what's going to happen afterwards. And I just don't like that feeling. I really despise it.

I love the feeling that I did this before we got together today. Yep. I did a lot of the goals. I did push ups. I'm six sets in of push ups today.

Not to feel cool and to look cool. But to feel better. So if I can ask, doing push ups, putting into orphans in your body. For those that really have some challenges with substances. Or for those that I just drink a lot of coffee or smoke a whole bunch.

How does that feel comparatively? And I'm sure it's not the same thing as, you know, I don't think giving it a crack.

But an opioid is a certain incredible how you can get.

But how might the putting of endorphins into one's body be able to be. It's certainly more effective. Later. But how about just even the short run for feeling better. How close can you get by putting endorphins in your body.

Because some of those feelings of confidence and strength and love and fun and humor. Any thoughts? It's super important. I mean, not just in your detox phase. I had to make sure I was hit in the gym twice a day during the detox phase on top of my 12 steps spiritual meetings.

But to this day, Sean, I mean, I'm seven years in half year sober. And I'm in the gym six days a week on jumping rope. When I can't make it to the gym, I'm doing body weight squat, push ups, set ups. You know, whatever it is that I need to do.

“I think in general, anybody that's struggling with anything mental health wise, depression, substance abuse.”

What it does for your severing tune in and to open me levels. It's the greatest natural drug in the world. Yeah, I agree. And I'll just share this from my heart to anybody out there. I, Darren, we're up to a lot of things in the world as many of you are listening.

And some of you have even more present struggles of paying the rent or paying the mortgage and meeting payroll for your business. And what I'll share from my heart around this is when I put endorphins in my body 12 times a day. Micro dosing, just get on the ground and do push ups. I'll be in my office not to make a public spectacle out of it. In fact, I don't want to do that at all, as Darren was saying. But how that feels when I'm done, I feel like I just took drugs.

I've never taken drugs, but I feel like I'm high.

High that doesn't have any negative side effects. So I really give you that. That's part of how this man stays is healthy, strong as abundant as masterful as he does. And that could be very practical. Do that today 12 times. There you go. We wouldn't, what?

Yeah, just like after every phone call once an hour, drop on the ground. They would set a push ups for 60 seconds. Do some body weight squats as Darren said. Do some crunches and see how that feels online, brother. A hundred percent.

And you could totally shift your brain frequency patterns just with a consistent daily routine of doing that. Even after a week, you're going to notice the difference here brain will actually start craving. Yeah, I feel like I feel addicted. And when I don't do that, I feel bad. And I feel myself reaching for something.

And for me, it might be sugar while reaching for more sugar. And when I put in, yeah, I put the endorphins of my body. And I just feel so much better. So practical takeaway. Now, here you are.

You sell your business for a million dollars.

“You are, how did that feel when you sold the business for a million?”

Where was substances in your world at 19? Like, what was life like at that moment? It felt like almost that it was a long time coming. Because at that point I was building for five years. And I knew I wanted to make a transition.

Added the quote industry into, I've already had my direction. Because I've obviously noticed in all these legendary athletes signing autographs. It treated so under the dabble into that. So it was more just an excitement and reinvesting that money to growing and building something. Very cool.

And we were substances yet tipping into a problem at 19. They weren't, but I was highly functioning of that. That wasn't really any ramifications. I would say probably till about 21 when I was arrested four times and six months.

So not to sell. Because I didn't need to sell. I was making plenty of money. It was too used. I thought I was the cool kid.

“That was buying all the drugs for everybody.”

And for me, like, we could go down that road for an hour and just tell stories. And I don't really see value.

So the bottom line is that the Darren Prince went through an extraordinary journey.

Starting at 14 years old in substances. And had challenges all the way through to 2008. And when it comes to that in a second. But as you're highly functioning. And on the successful side of what's happening in business.

How do you begin to build relationships with massive people by identity? You might call fame. And my life would just say identity in the world. You create these unbelievable relationships. What was that journey?

So the first one I went after was for a mutual friend. I knew we'd gone in Hurland one and was Muhammad Ali. I mean, I mean, each of you. So he was the first guy to contact. It started doing with and for in fucking body breast.

I'm a magic. You didn't start small. Yeah. So then from there, I got introduced to magic. And I went to Chevy Chase.

And then Pamela Anderson, it's smoking Joe Frazier.

“And so that's how the business started out.”

The previous version. I developed relationships with them from a business that had nothing to do with sports and entertainment marketing.

It was basically booking them in certain autographs.

Or autographs, signing up against us. Done it. And so you would bring them into an environment. With these set events or you would-- It was either events or they would go to a hotel conference room for a few hours in sign.

And you would browse into front of you. And you would be promoting that yourself. Exactly. Exactly. And why did they say yes to you?

I mean, weren't there other people seeking that yes from them and to do that. Like, so because I want everybody to realize this narrative, it's not that easy to call up Muhammad at least people and have them say yes. What was it you think about you that made people comfortable these icons to say yes to you? Well, number one.

I mean, I fed him like that with a lot of the way he wanted me to behave and act around that and make him worried about the person and the business. Yeah, we said, you know, that's the biggest mistake in business. Too many people know care about the sales and the contacts and the dollars when we should be caring about the person. And I also think in a way not to pat myself too much on the back.

“But I think I was somewhat a visioner for that market taking off back in the early '90s.”

I timed it so well that it gave me such recognition for being aligned with these people. There was no internet back then. It was all done by Pax machines marketing. And running ads and amaggasing close sports director's digest. So what I do is I run photos of all the signings.

And I think it's so far past everybody that they just said, Oh, well, we got to go to down and print for this person and that person. And this wants to do a signing and that's kind of how it all happened. Wow. And so for everybody out there, a foundational principle of unwinded and this podcast is that influence is the only human attainable superpower.

And where you're hearing from Darren Prince is that thanks to his dad and the innovations that followed him along his journey, this man became a master of influence. And interestingly, and I think a master of integrity influence. Because from my experience and how you built your relationship with these people is you did what you said you were going to do. And it went the way you said it was going to go.

Am I hearing you correctly, Darren? Yeah. And tell me. I was 25 and then I had a little bit of a setback. And that setback was.

So I was selling from another contact Michael Jordan was one of the other biggest athletes in the world. So I'm authenticated Michael Jordan product. And this forensic document expert that was retired from the FBI was being praised as the guru of authentication. I know you have collectors, they'll watch there was no professor, there was no back at that then. And after about a year or so of selling it, I'm getting investigated by the FBI.

And I went from this. And that's by the way, that's not fun. Yes. I went from this 19 year old, get on top of the world, more or less losing everything. But you talk about relationships at the time of the sentence.

I got a felony charge for me in a full statement.

The FBI, who were in the interview, never went to prison.

Magic. Chubby. In Muhammad Ali al-Lani Ali, all world letters to the judge on my character.

But I had a rebuild. Yeah.

“And that's where I've two more unbelievable stories with my dad in the district and now that happened.”

Yeah. I was in a fly fishing trip with my dad. The last three grand to my name, but went to L.A.S. gave it so pissed that I spent. See, the last $3,000 after you sold. Yeah, card money for money.

My signature is all 1996. And you've had all these massive celebrities. Now you're down to your last three. So this is another moment where we'll talk about ring invention. Like your past, make you better.

Not better. Have the vision for what you want to do. And we're on this beautiful stream. And my dad said to me, what's my next move? And I said, you know that I want to be an agent.

But I don't know if I used to go to law school. They dropped the fishing pool. And says, law school. It goes like this. If I don't who you know, I'll like any lawyer.

But kill to have the relationship that you can go to Joe Montana's house. You can go to Bering Springs and see my homie. You can go to Mohal and drive in. No Beverly Hills and see payment on your magic. I'm Beverly old.

So he goes, what I bet it was next. Let me see magic. Tell him your vision. It's Sean, three story up to talk about it before. Three weeks later I'm with magic in Michigan.

We got a corporate event. I go into the hotel room. So tell sweet. And if he was here, he would have peep the exact same words. It's 30 years ago.

And I told him my vision. He said, you're good dude. You made him a steak. I made him a steak. This was four years after his age of the announcement.

And he goes and I love your family. Who do you want to start with this? You're first client. And there's one of those moments. I'm literally a 26 year old kid.

I got one shot to ask him. My heart's palpitating. My hand's just sweaty. And I got up the nerve. And I go, I'd love it to be you.

You know, I call him. And he goes, okay. He goes, I'm going to give you two years to represent me. But if you don't use been an act down every door to bring in all the celebrities you can. I'm going to fight for these two years or up because I like Darren.

It's not. He said, I'm going to become a six year old kid. I said, I'm going to become a success.

They've never seen before in the world of sports and entertainment.

Fast forward. There's a lot of annoying dollar brand. Because it's not how successful I become. It's how successful I make you and everybody else around me. So when you get there, it's your turn to bless other people.

And Prince Mark and I grew as born after that. And everything changed. I went and raised a thing of a client. And said, magic song. Super power of yes.

That's what happened. He had the heart to do it, of course. But the mastery, the grace, the humility, the rapport with magic Johnson. And he caused yes. And then once he had magic Johnson, he had the opportunity.

It's still not easy. You could know incredibly famous people. I have nothing happened. Many people know famous people. Nothing happens.

What Darren Prince became incredibly masterful at. And you can, too, is once you build a relationship with the right person. It doesn't have to be a famous celebrity in the world. If you're an attorney in the county, a financial service provider, a local realtor, you're trying to get your coaching, business, and moving anything.

Who is ecosystem famous in your world? Maybe it's a local attorney in the county, a financial service provider. If you're an accountant in attorney, if you're an attorney, it's a financial service provider.

“Who is it in your world that you're a magic Johnson?”

Back to you by the so much you had magic. What happened from there?

You know, I never hired a public who's before I did.

It basically wound up in all of her. You know, the trade papers and the trade magazines that he signed with us. It made it so much easier for me than to go to all the other celebrities that we were. Looking wide for affs on extra. I'm like, "Look, we're starting to a lot more picker things now.

We're going to start picking and you speak in the gate." And then license and deals and commercials. And, you know, all sorts of different branding opportunities. And, but it's like you said, no one these people is one thing. Like my dad, but it was coming the same thing.

He goes, "Having them as friends and associates are a good dinner." But can you actually put real projects together for them? Can you bring real opportunities? Because now you get the benefit of a vote. You can be a business together with your dear friends at the same time.

And it took a little bit, but once I found that sweet spot, I would say within like, 68 months. It's kind of like we never look back. I mean, I think relationship capital has been sort of a strength before I even knew. That was a term.

My dad was, like I said, a matchup with the New York City.

I always make sure that you have food coming to his hotel.

Sweet from his favorite restaurant. Or, you know, bring him to his favorite restaurant. And make sure that the bathroom is blocked a lot. So we can go there and piece and silence and enjoy himself. And every time she'll phrase him with him down,

the homo is in town with his wife Lonnie. You know, bring a shirt to the Essex house, whatever hotel he was at.

“And I think that's really creative foundation.”

She wanted to show that I was different. Find out about their birthday, their family, their likes, their dislikes, their hobbies.

Where the business part was important to it, right?

But it wasn't a priority. And my experience of this man, Darren Prince, and something for you to really consider as you experience this, is truly loving people. So what you could mistake what you're hearing from Darren to say is he do a lot of nice things that seem like you care. No, no, that's not what Darren's saying.

This man cares. He loves these people. When Hulk Hogan recently passed away, Darren was devastated. Like, I heard it felt it saw it as he speaks of Joe Frazier. And Mohammed Ali, these icons who no longer with us, the resonating power of love come from his heart.

And so all of these people is genuine. So with what if the great opportunity, Darren, for folks out there, is to find a way to truly love people. And how have you done that?

Because that is very present for me.

But you're such a loving soul. Was it always that way? Look, we were 14, 15, 16, 17, did you love people? Or did you learn to love people?

“I think I picked up on my dad's philosophy, but I also think I did it for a large part of my life to be accepted of insecurities.”

And wanted to be validated. And then eventually I started my spiritual, sober journey seven and a half years ago. It was coming from a different place. It was coming from a place of, I can do this. I can provide.

I am worthy of the world that I'm in the respect that I have. Now, let me bless and put smile on other people's faces. Where there's absolutely no offense action whatsoever. Think back to two of our things. The Sugar Ray Leonard dinner completely unplanned.

Yes. And he said somewhere, it's the way which I'm not going to answer in the podcast. It's a little bit of a curse for it. I was like, you're a sick mother at your grandparents. When I told you that Sugar Ray Leonard's coming,

you know, when your face is at Steve, so racially and beautifully coordinated for that event. I mean, it was unbelievable. You know, rare a couple weeks ago. That's when I got him at the face time.

Here's the great advice I got from Rick Flair. Rick Flair. He said, "Now listen, I'm divorced four times." He was, "I'm divorced four times." So this is, I'm like, here from nature, boy. Thanks to Darren Pritz and a phone call, I'm sitting by the fire in my home.

Like, watching a movie with my daughter, who's four and a half years old. And he's like, "Here's the advice." "Now I'm divorced four times." So you can take it from where it comes. He goes, "But ask for forgiveness, not permission."

We had an airplane to come on down and hang out with me in Barrett. Yep, so yeah. At any time, you and your program down in Tampa, it's done. But yeah, moments like that, that gets me so much more excited. Business is fun and great when we do it in nice.

But you gotta, you know, the money only means so much at a certain point.

“How many people are getting blush from experiences?”

You know, we saw it from your event in October. How many people did to lay up from who you had there because you were blessed. If it's a private, provide value for your audience, for your team, for these people. That are locking for that shot in the arm, whatever it might be. To reshift and repiv it, you know, their belief system itself and business and whatever it might be.

And you understand that you can't put a price on that. It feels just, let's get forward. Yeah. It's a now from that place of euphoria, from identity. Let's talk about identity, so it lands for people, not emotionally.

But intelligently, intellectually, strategically. With integrity, Muhammad Ali, the most iconic athlete in history. And you can't be Muhammad Ali unless you have other icons that you are embroiled with. Joe Frazier is one of those folks. And Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, two of the greatest athletes in champions in the history of American sport.

And certainly in boxing.

And they have this incredible rivalry.

They're on two different sides of the world.

“Joe Frazier is representative of the right, Muhammad Ali of the left.”

And choose that. It's how it broke out. Joe Frazier is this, you know, American, for the American Patriot. And Muhammad Ali becomes the progressive civil rights movement and change in disruption and antiwar movement. All of these things are going on.

And Muhammad Ali does a go in the draft in 1971. They have this iconic fight. My dad was there, by the way, in 1971. I was one, and Darren, I was one of the same year, just that of a fun fact few week support. And so all this is going on.

And as their rivalry builds, Muhammad Ali is incredible communicator. And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story.

And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story.

And so it's going to be a great story.

And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story. And so it's going to be a great story.

“And so it's Joe Fraser beats Muhammad Ali the first time.”

Muhammad Ali comes back and beats him the next two times. And it is the foundation of Muhammad Ali's career. And Joe Fraser's career. Now Darren gets to know these fine folks a little bit later down the line. And there is a tremendous, like, size make rift that exists between the two of them.

And keep picking it up from there. And you're rolling all the further. So we tried many of times. And together, Lonnie Ali and mom, it graciously offered to fly me Joe and his son, Marvin Sal, to the Ali premiere, where we'll

Smith start in all it as Ali. And they wanted us to ride in Muhammad Salimah to the Hollywood premiere. Joe didn't want to do it. I mean, that's when I realized how deep the emotional wounds were. And Joe just said, Prince, the LMM, doing something with them.

And he said, you see, I'm right to earth and filling. So it's about a year and a half years later, I got a call from Hurtland. I got to my girlfriend that ran Ali's scheme. That Lonnie wanted to call me.

Um, that Muhammad didn't have with her for the NBA all stroke. He can fill it. And they would love Joe and you and Marvin come by. They're who tells me that night we're going to. So I'm now like shaken.

I can't even believe this opportunity's coming. It's been February, 2002. And I called Joe up. And without adding and I know delay, no pause. Because all right, now call up Marvin.

So let's do it. It'll be good to see him tonight.

So the second part of that show on is I'm still in active addiction.

So I can't even believe this happened. So I'll have to go back to the hotel. Kind of hedge freeze from. So Darren Prince is about to be the orchestrator of a reunion of the greatest friction in the history of sports

between two of the most iconic athletes in history. Cynthia. And he said a perfect. So I'm back in the hotel. And Marvin and Joe were heading over to get me.

Because then we had to go to Ali's hotel. And my best thinking was that, you know, I just tell my even worthy of the situation.

“And the only thing I could think is when it was to get high.”

You know, because you're sitting or talking to me. So many people are in the office situation. So many people can't believe it happened. The photos, there's videos, there's documentary. And you see me.

But be okay. Anyway, I made the best of it. And I'll be go to Muhammad's suite. And Lonnie opens up the door. And I'm at my mind.

Like I can't always respond when he's here.

And Joe walks over to Muhammad. He's on the couch. And he's a little bit bloated in overweight at that time. And his life from not falling the proper diet. And the Parkinson's medication.

But some moments, I remember, was Joe kind of lifted Ali up. And Muhammad kind of fell and chose shoulder. As Chuck locked in his back like. And literally just had tears in his eyes. Ali, as he was on show shoulder hug.

And I'm a Lonnie looked at the ball of us. And said, you know, Muhammad really just down the open. Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming.

“And then we sat at this huge dining room table on that dinner.”

And Muhammad struck still in the legendary point. David starts fighting the bottom whip. And he looks at Joe at the other end. Because he's going to go back. Because we got to go back to Manila.

And Joe drops his fork and knife in his food. Because man, we just made up back there. I'm going to have to kick your ass again for a fourth fight. And I'm like, there's no way I'm watching this right now. It was unbelievable to just see that they just couldn't help themselves.

It was just in the fabric of their DNA. Because here's a private moment with sickness in a hotel suite. And it was still going. Now quickly. Because we can get into the next subject.

Please, please. MBA surprised us the next day. Joe and I were planning on going with my boy Nicky C to the all scrutiny. And the NBA called and said, we understand Joe and Muhammad got together last night. Of course, I didn't.

It. I go now. I said, we were just, you know, Joe and I just had a relaxing. It's okay. We're asking because we've left to put Joe near Muhammad.

Some of it near Muhammad at the game. Did I. To an NBA all star game is the story of a whole source. I mean, it's like next level. Especially out of all the all start.

Yes. And so we get there. And we have three four and five center court. It's been 15 minutes. I started hearing that chant.

I'll lay. I'll lay. I'll lay. I look to my right coming out of the tunnel with security. It's Muhammad in his best friend.

Howard Bingham. The fame photographer. I've seen neither our our longer here. And Muhammad sits and see two.

My new Sean center court is Howard. His left is all a right next. Alley is me. And next to me is Joe. I've never been to him.

I have never been to him.

I have never been to him.

“I'm so uncomfortable. I'm so socially awkward in my life that I'm like, how do I get Joe to switch brick and see fit me right now?”

He starts elbowing with his big strong arm and he leans over and he goes boss man. So it's easy to call me. I said you up boss He goes switch with me and I said I'd be honored and I got up. I know good to choose left. Joe sits down next I lay, they're holding hands, a leash, he comes out to sing America the beautiful. The place goes ballistic. I mean the entire arena was standing up a plotting what was going on which I'm a homie. So that was that was just a special having Alton John look at them during half time in Kobe and Mike Ol and

Ivershan like everybody knew what was happening. This was a piece of history at the M.V.A.U.A. also again That was unbelievable. And to think that it just to go back half a step for a moment that part of the deep riff, the pain, the rage that existed was Muhammad Ali saying these things about him beating the gorilla in the thriller in the middle of which is obviously a racially derogatory attack on Joe Frasier and then he says it at the table So that is absolutely nuts and then what Joe Frasier have been saying a response because this is such an anger over time

“Because like yeah, look at Muhammad Ali making fun of his Parkinson's conditions and saying who do you think one of those fights now?”

And then it's happening at the table and the next day they're sitting back to you. So when that when Muhammad Ali was saying that What were you feeling at the table like were you? Well, I know you had substance, but was there any part of like this is gonna

Completely devolve like what was no I actually got nervous for a second. I was like damn they just paid up and

Joe's putting his fork and his knife back in his plate. I'm like, I hope it's not gonna get up and walk over But then Joe was like smiling at that smirk. Yeah, that's when he just dropped it and he hit up a man We just made a fact there. Am I gonna have to kick your ass again for a fourth fight? And Muhammad literally starts fitting his food at him with the lapping so hard. He was like this and if it's a beautiful moment, just like like I said They just couldn't help themselves. It's just who they were Ali Ali Ali as he's walking in walking down with

Hulk Hogan or Joe Frasier or Pamela Anderson. Can you explain to people as Slowly and methodically as is appropriate the power of identity the power of fame So people can truly appreciate what happens and what you've experienced traveling with these people Yeah, I mean I've been blessed You know, be with the kings that canes or queens of queens and I mean I've had

didn't arrow a genome Trump line-up richy Denzel Washington at dinner with Joe and I I mean I'm in Alaska's Spielberg literally in awe at a march for our lives event in Washington You see that my friend's good abroad coordinated

Maybe 2018 2019 the biggest you know athletes and celebrities just Joe Frasier walks into a room, man, and it's It's no real of another level. It's a different on It's a different association bano Bon Jovi at the MTVVM is I've seen it like they are like a little kids It's a the on say had a magazine cover party for Gotham magazine my friend Jason then sent a car

And beyond saying or dad wanted to be Joe Joe came up with Philadelphia It's something so different especially when you go back to that generation John I'm not saying there's a certain athletes that haven't had it fast 20 years, but they were different they were like They have affected the world politically they are not more stopped than I'd a more shaped me from 71 For the fight of this entry, you know, they had such power. That was already Frasier one. Yeah, such power their boys

What they stood for long before social media long before the internet that had this level of Lowball fame that they're not sending out tweets to build up their image Joe, but happened is you know Generationally, you know the grandfather taught it to the uncle the uncle taught it to the father The father took it son and the whole Colkan was that light-up

“whole Colkan transformed at least about 30 and 40 different you know generations I think”

But I look at like magic the dream team really took him to a level that the dream team is so incredibly impactful

Let's go home for a second. I'm WrestleMania they call the WrestleMania not WrestleMania one. I was there at Madison Square Garden in this man

We'll get to my dad and do a good and rookie Wilson in a couple minutes and

“Being there and just whole Cogan coming out in the place going nuts, right?”

People literally losing their mind like Elvis Presley taking on the stage and Sullivan When you have that when you're walking off whole Cogan and people there warriors accountants financial service prize doctors What you mentioned Feeling some of these iconic celebrities looking at Joe Frazier like they're a little kid looking up to Joe Frazier How what's it like what were people? How would you describe?

How disrupted people become in the presence of a whole Cogan or in the presence of some of these others? What is it like as people are mobbing him for autographs and adult? Professionals and successful people. How would you describe what happens to people? I think over the years I've just come to accept it more Early on it was a good excitement, but it's also a live-in job to do with their security to make sure they get in and out

Whatever situation I'd be safely

“But I think Hulk was the one that humbled me obviously I'm in clear rid of each where he spent the last”

20-25 years just like Florida and Me and a couple of my boys went to say we went for sushi for lunch and Hulk is me as his Ballet ticket because brother Jimmy favorite just can you just go have them pull up the course who can get out of here And I turn around I'm not hitting shunner 50 people behind us. Just wait there. They could tell the band Dan is on the cut

Right sure from behind the blond, you know hair. They know they know it's him and So I look at all these people This is gonna be like a half hour I'm gonna add here. I go get the car. I'm waiting in the parking lot for a half hour with the bell like I he comes out He goes brother

It's going on You know click something bad. I'm like you know what I call them Terry, but it's real terrible. I'm like Terry We finally get away from the craziness of the traveling and all the fans and You know the wholeomaniac brazenets just to kind of get a lunch with you and all this is still happening and he looks at me It's so much older good brother

These people still treat me like I'm heavily a champ of the world and that's a blessing because let me tell you something We might be friends, but we're gonna be as good friends as you are because you wouldn't be cold with all these business opportunities

These fans disappeared and that made me never say another word or bad it because he understood it

He understood the power of you know being there for their fans like bad none of them or who they are without the love and support of that and while this may Resonate so powerfully emotionally What's also think about it we live as people in a higher article world and I'm not talking with the way we wish the world would would be But it is so if you build a relationship with the president of an association This is how I built my entire business originally

I had the president of the Northern New Jersey care practice society, you know 29 years ago Bring me in the speak and once that person said, "Hey, Sean's okay then everybody else said you say Sean's okay It's Sean's a great masterful. What he does? Like it changes everything and that's that's the power of identity and so if you're entertained by this You're enjoying this. I'm gonna I would love to talk to Darren all day all night about these stories, but what I hope is there for you

At least some of you is to take this away and realize that you two can be a Darren prince and you could build relationships with people with Identity in certain ecosystems Maybe it's a medical society or legal society and counting society whatever it is That's gonna transform what you do and maybe for something out there you want to be calling Darren prince and saying hey Can I bring some of these people because I assure you when you start bringing people like Darren's got to bring to your situations

That's not an easy thing to do Right, this is not just about money. It's like this has got to be the right situation and the right people The right situation with the right people of integrity, but the power of brains celebrity identity is game changing all day every day So from that place brother How do you leave the world of addiction?

So you have these iconic moments you struggle to Feel them experience them as deeply and meaningfully as you want. This is in Darren's book aiming high You want to read a heartwarming Soul touching entertaining as heck

“Story of a journey into the power of celebrity aiming high is there for you and if you want to a pathway out of some of the challenge”

You're having it's there for you, but and I know how and why and I've read the book multiple times now But aiming high 2008

You finally have had enough and please share with people that powerful moment that may serve some folks out there or

My late uncle still was dating a woman and draft time and I don't like just connect to a friend Steve who's sitting here

“You know, it's very it went to sit and I was just ready. I mean, she started asking me all these questions and I”

I told her I was sick and tired and I was just done and she pulled a coin at her pocket He talked about GMC's as I call them god-managed coincidences She just celebrated five years over and she said I could help you She'd spend on the tea talks plan and the next day with the eyes seconds in 2008 and

I've been into my apartment bathroom at the time. I was living with my by then wife and Thought I was kicking like a non-nercotic anxiety pill and two-fight couldn't skim out Which was one of the three oh pieces and I thought it's what I needed Sean, but I had first time my light A light light moment. No, I thought of mine. He's some a student that took the money take the business take the notoriety he could give me a single day of freedom I'll go and go back and tell one day at a time they take other people's out other people out and I

Had like a lightning vote on my right shoulder because it was a feeling I never had people and I never had it

Sims and I heard a boy say I've got you in your ready and there was no Uber I went downstairs into a taxi cap after going to line down at 12th set meeting in the upper 80s in a church basement in New York City with a hundred and fifty plus addicts and alcohol hollocks roll once both with state of mind ego-frush must be important like knowing that obviously's going there to get the help that I needed It's a render for the first time on the light and

That day what I thought at that time was the worst has now turned out to my very best Well congratulations my brother of course and you know for folks out there Darren that Maybe or not in a terrible place of addiction But they're just looking for ways to have fun at a higher vibration a level This is a man that rolled with some of the wildest craziest characters ever including Dennis Rodman

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean you just think of how Dennis Rodman's identity is created in the world I don't know judgment over him, but that is certainly somebody who self identify bad boy and you know party in like a rock store over the world and

“What would you say to people about how you have fun now?”

Because you know I serve I ski I said before as I serve skiing scuba. I've skimmed out this month I'm a blind guy and I love it

It makes me feel high. You know I've never been actually high

So I can't be sure I really feel high, but it certainly makes me feel at a much higher vibration a level How do you have fun now and for the folks that may be thinking yeah man, but like if if I stop drinking as much I'm drinking or stop you know getting high sometimes I'm I'm just not gonna have fun, but I think your life says something very different Yeah, I mean fun for me is not to find the way that it used to be you know

It's just being around the right energy people, you know you would not have this so you have a magical connection or together Just around people that are as spiritual as possible. I think we need to talk about Individuals that are listening and watching that doesn't necessarily need to be a celebrity But there is somebody in the world of impact that Probably doing the next right thing every day of their life to build scale give back

“Being integrity that if you latch on to people like that you're really gonna start realizing what life is about and get a new definition of a fun”

You know, it's It's a different time and I think people are starting understand that it's not about nothing good happen It's often around a bar till eleven twelve o'clock tonight, you know my level of fun and joy and happiness now comes from helping other people that are struggling You've been a blessing to my Amy high foundation our scholarship and you were from 30 to 40 people at York when those calls come in

It is the greatest must exciting tone in my life when some playing that happens We we have somebody that comes in that doesn't have to read for it so that we can help them if somebody wants mentorship and Sports management or celebrity marketing like I drop everything my office makes sure I Set that stuff up because it you can't even you understand it for people that are listening to have an experience It you can't even put the

Feeling into words on what it's like every thing fun and out

Amen brother and fun. So here's what's fun for me

Have you lunch in California In Hollywood with Darren after we've just gone to an amazing home in the Hollywood Hills Which I'll keep confidential for what we did and what was happening there will be a lancet soon and then having lunch and Just enjoying pizza and laughing and talking about the future and possibility What also is fun is when I had the blessing and privilege of first meeting Darren it was on Halloween

Amos they're like check me out to make sure that's some maniac you were like 20,000 square feet here, right and I had the blessing and privilege of making

Contribution to Darren's Amy High Foundation

“That's fun, but the reason that happened is because we did things not like”

Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier exactly or we were whole cog in or magic Johnson, but not completely unlike it We faced challenge infriction Aaron did I did we built business We built abundance and only from that place of abundance could a contribution come for people to get to get free And so that happens we begin to develop a relationship It was fun running a thousand person event in New Jersey and having all these incredibly iconic celebrity people come in

It was really fun and magical to sit down with Charlie Sheen

and not to exploit him but to lean in on his incredible

Influence charisma magic that this man has brought to the world and also to be present to the fact that he's had some extraordinary challenges as well and Darren represents him And what was fun and magical was my dad's 80 of birthday my dad's really sick and this just happened in 2025 and my dad couldn't have his 80 of birthday party and I was hard for him. He was hard for him And we began a conversation with Darren the mutual, you know, teammate of ours, Mike Vassuvio and

“Said you know my dad is an enormous bet fan and Darren causes Duay couldn't and Boogie Wilson along with his incredible team, right?”

It's the even in a partnership and They come to the hospital and I'm able to surprise my father and nothing needs more to him than New York meds and have Boogie Wilson and Duay couldn't walk into his hospital room I got the computer set up and the most meaningful moment my dad and I have ever shared was 1986 being a box one thirteen a for the New York meds and watching the ball rolled through bill Buckner's legs that Moogie Wilson hit

We rewatched this moment in the hospital with my father with Moogie like good Watching the whole thing brother thought and they're there in the hospital room for like two hours You know, it's like an hour and a half two hours. We have a met's cake and a James Bond cake for my dad's birthday Moogie Wilson and Duay couldn't are asking for second pieces. I'm thinking they're being nice taking the first piece like not That's really good got another piece. Then we come into this room and do a podcast with Duay couldn't

“Moogie Wilson telling the story on cry. They're all emotional grabbing pizza and wings”

You know in the office till God knows what time But that's fun, but that fun only comes because of the sacrifice of this man

His partner other people have made to pill these relationships with incredible people and also humbly the abundance

I've had to privilege of creating with partnerships and team. It's myself So what if it's fun to build things and from that abundance Do magical things so brother first from my heart my soul and I shared this already But I want to say right here on this podcast

We wouldn't be here without you number one number two Thank you for one of the most meaningful moments of my life my father's relationship Yeah, we all have challenges with our parents and I'll have interesting moments, but like Billy Crystal Well the movie said in city slickers and one of his ghosts are I said you know we feel he can't talk about anything like we could talk about baseball And it was a heart and soul of our life my dad cried more than 10 times that day

About this and he's cried at least 25 times since every single human being my father knows has heard this story About Dwight Goodman and Mooki Wilson being there and if my father was in this room with us right now He would be crying tears pouring down his face and the mention of his 80th birthday He cries instantly you did that and that I hold no judgment. I've had plenty people with addiction challenges in my life and my family

I hold no judgment, but I know for a fact There's no way that there could be a greater high than that And I hope that can like penetrate your heart and soul brother because you've done that for so many people But you did it from me and my father and my children all my children I've four kids of a 26-year-old my my son down my four-year-old daughter

We're all in this dream together with my dad for his birthday and what was going to be this you know Beautiful part of the Capitol grill and you know hundred people and friends turned into just us in that room Tiny small family collection and it was the most memorable day of my father's life And you did that brother and I hope that high brother's social. Yes, sir You know who my favorite athlete is of all time mookie Wilson there you go and anybody I'll tell you that that's no means until it's a little boy

So that made it even more magical Thank you and yet how many people have you brought moments to like that?

And people's hearts and souls brother. You're like George Bailey. Like it's a wonderful life like are you present to all the lives and the ripple effects But everything not just that these people do that you do brother like how present or not are you to that? I am I mean, it's like I brought up earlier You're about your abandoned jewelry. Like I see it. It's not of course. There's a business side to things But we don't want to be just a transactional. This is one of great experience. It's one of great mind-blowing moments

We want these events or keynotes. Whatever it might be Whatever that business project is to just really impact others from the energy and the frequency of Whether that celebrities that they're around because transactional one off shake somebody's hair

Maybe he'll ultimately get in no we we want to just make sure he maximize every single thing we're doing

“That's just because that's for the magic is that's why it becomes you know”

You're reaching back and giving back and people are in that moment of just taking every single thing in just like you were with every single person every celebrity who had on stage I mean you change so many lives that thing just to be behind the scenes with Steve and watching it with me Telled up and like no we had a very small part of that help and put this roster get it such a good feeling there No, thank you my brother So what does it go from here as it began around the man home?

You have hopefully another hundred years in the sort of yeah, um, what is it? I know you take one day at a time. I know you meditate love life But if you can fast forward a hundred years to your final day What if anything would you want to bring forward that you haven't brought forward yet? But if anything

“You know, I think I'm just so passionate about the younger generation and the mental health and”

This whole word then everybody can see our narcissists and you know on yield like I would love to be somebody And I've been spoke to them at the lighthouse and have this when I went that Can we like you know start creating like a cursing grandma or school about self-worth yes and self-love? Yes, I want to be a part of that that is nothing to do with this

It's what I can care less. It's been giving me blessings and relationships that are incredible

I've set up before when I'm gone. I want to be known as a man that went deep into hell Came out on the other side and sprinkled open recovery across the world to make people's lives better And that's something that would change mental health addiction substance we've following that if the Jocs and the nerds that are eight and nine ten years old and the geeks and whatever Little stereotyped who want to call them false hat in the same room

Talked about how they feel on that keep in day Everybody be on the same thing. You'll Remember And as a small token of gratitude and this is like fun for me. I'd like to make a fifty thousand dollar donation But my come on cowelgy Christian fact. This was not at all part of like there and being you didn't say this

But a fifty thousand donation from my count more alive like cowelgy Christian foundation to Amy high

“That's fun and a massive gratitude like that's that's how I get high”

So thank you my brother for everything you've done

I love you anything you'd like to share with those incredible people and final fun

You've shared so much already is there anything left on your heart that we have a not yet attended to these folks I just think sort of how we open it up and because you live in a frequency that's just so unbelievable and I do it as often as I can that It's about finding the filming You know, don't be blinded by all these people with the cards and the jets and the houses like that's getting great

And it's important to some and it's nice to have the ability to live alive, but it's about integrity It's about relationship building it's about giving back it's about finding that filming in here and in here and in here And when you get it let it spread by wildfire to people that need to hear it because when you get to that place You want to know that rest happy as you possibly could have been because I know a lot of people that have gotten to that place off the top of the mountain top That are just

miserable and You know, I think the younger middle age generation needs to understand that's a different way to go about it Yeah, and what I would love you to take away from this time that Darren Prince is that what if we are all A mouse what if Muhammad Ali was a mouse Joe Fraser is a mouse Darren myself you what if for all mice

Looking for lions and what if the lion that Muhammad Ali pulled the throwing out of the foot of for people that thought oppressed and challenged and limited and Fearful and concerned about what's happening. What if Joe Fraser was for people who thought there was change coming that was her phone What if there's thorns in the feet of ecosystems sometimes ecosystems or large groups of people sometimes are individuals and what this brother

Found the thorn and removed it and created massive value and that's how he integrity built these relationships

So my takeaway is what if we all

“Darren myself you all of us these iconic people just kept looking for ways to build relationships with”

Integrity Darren wants to help more people. I have financial abundance here. I'm to do it. Darren's gracious enough to come in and he brings gifts for me

My dad all these things what if we just keep realizing it's not a zero-sum gain

“But there's a value to expand and share and to find people's pain and they may be way bigger than you”

Way bigger than you in many ways, but if we could remove that thorn and create massive value for them in the life-long relationships

That this what that is what this brother has done with the likes of Hococ and magic Johnson

“Muhammad Ali Joe Fraser, Pamela Anderson David Goggins people the list goes on and on we do all day long”

And if this man that was classified in special education and the great stayed New Jersey will so share that and come and if he could do it Why can't you Darren Prince I love you my brother when this life together forever so much more to do I thank you for being on the Sean Cali online the podcast and it wouldn't be here without you Thank you, so thank you, Darron Prince. - And honor my brother, love you.