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to do everything in our feed for a short while so if you love the kind of mysteries that Mike and Ian are revealing make sure you subscribe to how to do everything at their own feed. Thanks. Hey there Kevin and Rebecca, what can we help you with? This is an issue that's been going on for a long time but we have this thing where we go to bed at night and we in we have like lined up our
sheets and blankets in a way that works for both of us then we make the bed right. Okay and it's been reset and everyone is like happy and then when we wake up the following morning almost without fail like I would say 90% of the time the sheet is pulled towards Rebecca and the blanket has been pulled towards me. Whoa. Okay. She only has sheet and I have blanket. Well and in my I
would also say in my defense or in my well she and on my defense I just say my interest is I'm a I'm a marriage therapist and we wake up in the morning sometimes and we're actually like angry with each other I'm like why did you take that whole why do you take the blanket like what you're problem you know and so it it has sometimes some residual frustrations in the morning which you know
I'm kind of like why do we even have strong feelings about this how is this happening I don't know how to make it any better. Yeah it's fascinating I mean plenty of couples there there will be one half of the couple who steals everything but whatever is happening between the two of you while you sleep
I've never heard of anything like it before. Yeah the layering of this makes this
very difficult to understand how it happens because you know it's the blanket it would be harder for me to access and pull in my sleep. Well there's a way to go. Oh the comforter is there too but I don't think we have any we don't seem to pull the comforter. I mean more than anything it's the it's the sheet in the blanket that get pulled in different directions. Well okay so let's let's lay
out the case here so you each have a set side of the bed you sleep on who's on the if we're I guess facing the ceiling who's on the left who's on the right. I'm right. I'm a left. Yeah okay I'm always closer to the door in case of an intruder. Okay good good. We're back because you're laughing awfully hard at that idea. I may have used that reasoning in yours yours. Okay good good to
“know. Okay and what position are the two of you in when you go to sleep first?”
Like I'm honestly about as far away from each other at the top. Okay but like on your and are you on your sides turned away from each other, turn towards each other. Yeah side sleeper turned away. Okay and we sound like I think probably not affectionate we really do like each other a lot but we both need like we just need to sleep. Honestly when we sleep like when it's time to sleep
it's time to sleep and we have a really big bat so we can get a lot of there's a lot of room. I think that's fair. The fact that the fact that you have taken the step of calling us shows us that we that you love each other. Are the sheets like super high thread count really nice or is the blanket extra fine perfect blanket? Well I mean they both have their plets in the mind that they're
bamboo sheets and the blanket is just a really soft blanket so I mean they're
“both like you know. Okay they're both pretty great I think. But it doesn't matter”
what the thread count is if you don't have any sheet. That's the truth. Yeah a lot of thread count is zero a lot of night. Okay we've got a real mystery here. Yeah this is good. I like this. We need a detective. Carlo Catonio is online with us now. He is the senior VP for investigative and risk mitigation services at Beau Diedel and Associates. In other words he's a detective. Carlo how
would you approach this case? So we would have their full cooperation and you
know they're consent to perform a full investigation. The first step that I would
do is number one I want to see the room. I would want to see where the bed is placed. See where any windows are. Where any lighting is. The entrances. How many
Doors go into it.
I would try to you know being that they're consenting and they're on board with it. I would set up cameras and document the activity at night over the course of a week or so and see how this is happening or if there's something that is unexplainable. Then we'd have a lot more data based on that visual evidence. Oh, like you mean do you mean something paranormal? I don't know if it's paranormal but
I mean if my intuition is that either Kevin or Rebecca is someone that moves when they're sleeping and you know maybe they get hot at night or maybe one or the other is a moving in a way that's you know wrapping the sheet around
“Rebecca and the blanket around Kevin. Yeah. I think what's likely what's been”
so flummixing to them is that the blanket and the sheet are starting out together. So they can't figure out how does that Rebecca is ending up with the entirety of the sheet and Kevin has all of the blanket. Yeah, I see the confusion there because if you're making the bed you're getting into bed at a certain time. You know I also want to kind of ask them questions about their bed time
routine who goes to sleep first. Right. Is it a new bed? Is it a new bedding set?
Is it a new sheet? I could tell you Carlo. I think these are bamboo sheets. What does that do? Okay. I would like to see how it behaves and see you know is it more slippery than you know cotton sheets or a blend? Yeah. Okay. You might go back and build the bed in the lab and experiment with how bamboo sheets might
“work. Yeah, I mean I would even say to just see what would happen if you”
changed the bedding if you tried different sheets. Yeah. All of that could have a different effect on how your body you know it hears to the material. If you were on this case and you the first first time you sat down with Kevin and Rebecca would one of the questions you asked them be do you have any enemies? Anybody out there who would want to do you harm? Would that be a question you would ask? In this
particular circumstance I don't think we'd need to go that far but you know in the interest of being a as thorough as possible you know I would ask that yeah but this case is a pretty to me seems very solvable. Yeah it does doesn't it? I imagine in a lot of stakeouts it's just a lot of dead time you're just hanging out. What are you gonna be eating or drinking during this time? So
“the stakeout I mean I say well I mean personally there to you know have a human”
eye on it you know that's a different story that would be a first I've never been
invited into a clients bedroom for a week but you know if I were to I would be very respectful I wouldn't eat or drink while they're sleeping and I try to be as quiet as possible to you know minimize any disruptions and and affect any of the results. Well Carlo thank you so much for helping us help Kevin and Rebecca. Oh I mean I would love to help Kevin and Rebecca this would be a pleasure
to work on many of the cases that I'm working with unfortunately involve a lot higher stakes but this one seems like a fun one it seems like it's solvable and it seems like it's something that I would be able to definitely provide some answers to Kevin and Rebecca on and if nothing else we can invest in a $30 nanny cam which may solve all our problems. For something like
this that would be my first recommendation.
Thank you for calling B&H this is a sales operator I'm directly calling hi I need to buy a camera. I'm in the market for like a nanny cam is that something you can help me with? Nanny cam. Like a camera that you can like set up in a room and monitor. I got it okay not me I probably want to speak to our surveillance people handle that stuff. Can you hold on one minute please
I get you to them. This is Ezra in the surveillance department. How me I assist you today? Hey Ezra we're looking for I guess you'd call it a nanny cam. What's the what are the prices unlike an entry level? It doesn't have to be hidden. It's really I have a we have a situation where we're trying to monitor people sleeping
overnight. Got you do you have Wi-Fi at the location? Yeah we're trying to
Investigate if a couple who is stealing the covers in a married couple will
this have a wide enough sweep to capture all that action. So the camera that I
“typically recommend. Sorry I put it in the wrong part number. What was it?”
Right. It was the 120. Okay. Okay so the camera that I would normally recommend is got like a 100 degree horizontal field of view. So if you're about the camera and as close to the corner as you can of the room you'll see the entire room. And it's going to be dark. It's nighttime. Is that going to be a problem? It has night vision infrared that can reach up to 30 feet away. Wow. Okay.
Let me ask you this question Ezra. On the off chance that there is some paranormal activity going on will we be able to capture that with this camera? That I don't know. I can't answer that question unfortunately. Which camera does capture that? I have no clue. All right but you want me to give you a part number of this camera to take a look at it? Yeah yeah what's that part number? It's Tia's and Tango.
Tia's and Papa. Tia's and Tango. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello is that Kevin? This is Kevin. Yeah and I'm here with Rebecca. Hello. Hey how's it going? We're good. Yeah how just sleep last night. We're still together. We're still together so. That's good. Yeah but there I would say though there's something about sort of like bringing it up that has made it. I'm like almost more aware of the sheet blanket.
“Yeah. It's a whole boy. Okay. I think I think I'm twirling. I think I'm like”
I think I sort of grab the sheet and like twirl it around my body. I really don't know. Okay so maybe it's got it's got worse. I don't know if it's worse. I think we're more maybe like reunited our awareness of it. Okay. Okay. We'll thank you both for getting back on the phone. We have an update. We've made some progress and we want to get your buy-in on some potential next steps. Okay. Okay. We just got off the phone with a private investigator who
investigates crime scenes and cold cases and we laid out everything for him and his recommendation is that for the next step we send you all a camera and you film you film a night of sleep and then mic and I review the footage. Okay. Are you willing to do that? I feel like yeah. I mean yes but
“it makes me a little nervous that I'm going to like it's going to be my fault. Oh. Oh. Really?”
Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean curiosity always gets the better of judgment. So yeah. I say fun.
All right. Well let this be a verbal confirmation that you have agreed to let us watch surveillance tape of you sleeping. We'll let it be that perfect. All right. So we have sent a surveillance camera to Kevin and Rebecca. They're going to set it up and they're going to send us the footage. We're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to review the evidence. Again this is two adults sleeping in their beds at night
and we're going to watch.
Send us your questions and send them to us at [email protected]. Hey you never know we may already be
watching you with a secret camera in anticipation of your question. On the last episode we did a little thing after talking about Dolbear's Law that's the law that allows you to figure out the temperature based on tree-cricket chirps. We had played a game where you all had to tell us what the temperature was of the episode. Hundreds upon hundreds of you wrote in. So many people wrote in. So many people got it right. The answer in 56 degrees. A temperature which would probably
kill crickets. Sorry crickets. But congratulations to Patty B, who was the first one with the right answer. Patty B, we're going to send you a t-shirt. Patty also said, I read an interesting
Story recently about a man who got horribly ill from kissing his pet bird.
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send you a t-shirt too. Congratulations Sam and finally we want to acknowledge Cheryl who was the last
person to guess and guess what Cheryl we're going to send you a t-shirt too because we have a bunch of shirts. I don't even know what's on these shirts. These could be wait wait don't tell me shirts. Maybe we have some old how to do everything shirts. We have a closet that's got a bunch of outdated merchandise. Good news everybody you're getting some of it. Some outdated merch and some of these will be game worn by Peter Sangle. Think about that guy who likes to run. Okay we have just received
via email a lot of video of Kevin and Rebecca sleeping. Okay so it is it looks like they're getting
“ready for bed. It's about 946 which I feel like nice job. Nice and early. I'll say one thing I'm noticing”
here is how much Kevin is looking directly into the camera. So there may be some observer paradox
that we are actually influencing the experiment here. And I just want to add I'm glad he's not more comfortable. You know I can only sleep if they're too strange to watch on me on camera and I'd be weird. Alright it's now 236 am. See in a lot of movement from Kevin here. Yeah. Rebecca's position has changed. Oh that's changing again. Oh okay she's has a lot a lot of nighttime lag action. She now has one knee up. They didn't tell us but she wears a sleep mask. Yeah. Which only would enable Kevin to do his
bidding without her nose. Oh that's true. Yeah she's technically blindfolded. Yeah we've got this very very surveillancey kind of fish eye lens and a very good view of the bed. Although it cuts off the very bottom so if anything is happening with feet. If feet are the culprit here we're not going
to know. Basically the view that we have is if you're if you had a TV that was across from
your bed like in a hotel room if the TV was watching you. Sleep that's the view we have here.
“And I think that in any hotel room that's a pretty good bed is that there's a camera in the TV”
watching you. Oh okay I see some foot movement from Kevin. I think I'm off. I'm just fully by the camera too do you see that? Yeah it's some sort of math or spectre. Oh f*ck it is again it is again. All right it feels like a separate problem but Kevin and Rebecca your room is haunted. What a lot of people who listen to our show don't realize is that for every question that is sent to us we ask people to send us a video of them sleeping to help us. Yeah get better answer
their their problems. And I got to tell you you know who you know who's a sound sleeper is Autumn's not getting any audio so it's pretty quiet pretty quiet in the room. I think we we just assume she's making a honk shoe sound. We can actually go ahead and add a little bit of that. Okay around here. That leg movement though without any art now there's some arm movement. Okay hold on here we go. Oh goodness we shouldn't see this. No okay I feel bad. Rebecca has now she just she's now
she just pushed the covers down and she is on top of the cover she has no covering on at this point at 237 in the morning. So what we're seeing. Yeah Kevin fully comfortable under both blanket and sheet and Rebecca out in the open on top of everything. Okay. Oh there goes Kevin. Is he sleep walking? Oh I didn't have birds in that room. Maybe it can feel like it might be a confetti. Although as somebody who watches a child on a monitor
from time to time you do that weird weird effect. Oh my child I just want to be clear I'm just watching a random child on a monitor. That's too late. I can't tell what's happening here. Oh it's left the bed. She sat up she pushed the blanket down and pulled the sheet up. I don't tell me what you think. I feel like we know what happens. We know what's going on.
And I think we know what to tell them.
Hello. Hey how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? Hello. Oh good there's Rebecca nice. Yep. Yeah.
First of all let me just say thank you for agreeing to let us watch you sleep.
Maybe we neither, maybe none of us in this situation appreciate it just how vulnerable and intimate
“this would this would be. Yeah yeah I think that would be yeah I was really totally”
thought comfortable and then then it came packed for it and then I was like yeah it felt a little bit exposing. If it makes you feel better I also felt very uncomfortable watching. [laughter] But all that said I do think after watching reviewing the footage I do think we we have a pretty good hypothesis for what's going on here. Oh yeah we're very curious to hear. Yeah so what we think is happening is you're getting the comforters making you too hot,
Rebecca. Yeah. Kicking everything off of you. Yeah. And then at some point you're then because you have nothing on you you're getting too cold again but you don't want to get too hot again
“so you just grab the sheet and pull that up over you. Yeah and we saw it happen when Kevin was”
not in the bed and so either what's happening is the jostling of him getting out of bed to go to the bathroom or whatever that's waking you enough that you notice your temperature is not quite right or Kevin is a heat source and when he leaves that's when you need the the sheet. So either way it can fall. Well I don't know that it's it's really and I don't know that it's anyone's fault right like you get cold you pull the sheet up Kevin returns to the bed maybe
maybe your grip on the sheet is so tight you've got this you know gallum like strength on it and he doesn't he has no choice he grabs the comforter he's left with no other option no other option yeah and so what we see what we see in those that video is Rebecca turned facing outward with the sheet Kevin facing the other way with the comforter yeah the thing that was so confusing to both of us was how the sheet and the blanket moved in opposite directions but when you understand
that sheet separates the sheet from the blanket right yeah sort of start to make more sense and then we both become pullers of our respective layer yeah we are all we are all but pullers of our
“respective layer in this world if I were to give a prescription here I think you got to get I think”
you got to get ready your comforter I think the comforter is the root of the problems interesting that's like a down comforter you know we're in the north so it's cold and so we're going to be switching here soon to a lighter comforter and you know maybe that will maybe it'll be different but I will have to see we'll have to check that out I could tell it was a heavy comforter just from the violence with which you kicked it off of yourself yeah that's then one of the when we
have argued about the yeah if I have told her something you don't actually throw the blanket up
you can move it's fascinating because I do think one of the things that people say is you never know
you never actually know what's going on in a marriage and I feel like you know what Ian and I do yeah we do we've seen it yeah we've seen it yeah all right Kevin and Rebecca thank you so much and we hope you sleep well tonight thank you Michael all right bye bye bye bye bye bye well that does it for this week's show what you learn Ian well I'll say this you know in Gmail when you're sending somebody an email and it suggests the AI suggests some possible responses
when we got all this video of Kevin and Rebecca two strangers sleeping yeah the first suggested
response from I guess Google Gemini to me was to reply to them so cute what did you respond to them
With I didn't I I don't know if the four of us you and me and Kevin and Rebec...
can ever speak to each other again after things we've seen do you think you would you feel
“comfortable now watching uh watching Rebecca and Kevin sleep do you think we could fit in there”
will he want to style the four of us it's a big bed and it's a big bed as as they both said
while they love each other very much they left a lot of room in between them I love that we'd be in
“between them uh in this fantasy huh it's not exactly the layout I had in mind I just love that”
you had a layout in mind how to do everything is produced by Skyler Swinson with technical
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