What I want to do is not to be a student.
The master of the club's laptop is soft-handed. It's a master's real-time. I'm saying, you can say that you're a hero. You're a master of the club, right? But you don't understand.
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What's up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast. We're your host, I'm Markiz. -A bedroom? -I'm David. Don't adjust your calendars.
It's not actually Friday. This is a bonus episode of the waveform podcast. That's how you know it's not Friday. Because you hear that not a regularly scheduled episode disclaimer. But this is a fun one.
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AITH, we will be saying the word "app" a lot. So get ready.
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All serious. Maybe, I don't know. Can I test that right now? I can't test it, I can't test that. We may end up bleeping everywhere that's not asked. Anyway, most of the stories, if you have a child,
listen to the music, if you have a child in the car, if you have a child in the room, if you have a child anywhere in the vicinity of this playing, plug their ears because it's about to get wilds.
“I'm not wondering if you should bleep that first one”
because you said the word before you said tell your child to close their ears. Maybe you should just spell it out. From this point forward. From this point forward. No kids.
No kids. Yeah. I do get emails sometimes about last time. I was listening with my kids. I'm like, "Oh, good to know."
You warned you. You didn't know. We warned you when I came out of the womb, I said from this point forward, no kids. Wow.
And so I still don't have kids. Staying true to your word. Could change. Could change.
So it was the second one.
For those unfamiliar, am I the asshole with something that I would assume was started on Reddit? Maybe it was started on four-channel or something else. But essentially it's this acronym where you say am I the asshole if and then you tell a story and then everyone on Reddit goes,
hey, you should probably get a divorce. Boy, you do love when I'm in that joke. Reload today. Holy ****. [LAUGHTER]
[LAUGHTER] At joke was brought to you by David Emerald. God damn it. I tweeted that six years ago, dude. Shit.
All right. Yeah, what we're going to do this is we're just going to Adam and I are going to throw. Am I the asshole's at our hosts? Tech-related ones.
Tech-related. They needed to be tech-related? Let's see. Well, I'm just making the audience understand. And I want to say the words tech ones.
We're still tech podcasts. Yeah, sure. Nintendo Switch 2. Yeah, the Switch 2. We're locked in.
Some of these will be pulled directly from Reddit. Some of these will be just influenced or inspired by Reddit posts we saw and some of them were made up by Adam and I and some of them were made up by other co-workers. And for the ones that were made up by other co-workers,
I'll probably end up asking you which one of your co-workers. Do you think, set it? It will not be for points. This is completely exhibition. I'm going to try it really hard, though.
[LAUGHTER] I will win this exhibition.
“This first one, I think many people have thoughts on.”
It comes directly from me and my own lived experience. Am I, Ellis Roman, the asshole for still using Twitter instead of blue sky? No. No, I don't think so.
Why not? Well, just by sheer numbers. I mean, unless you're calling everyone who still uses Twitter. Yes. Yeah.
Oh, that's it. Oh, I'm just kidding. I mean, I would like a good justification for it, but I would say that Twitter is still the biggest text-only social media platform. Oh.
It's funny because Twitter probably hate that you call them a text-only social media platform. Because they're really trying to be a video and paying for everything? Yeah, they're trying to be everything, but it's like, I guess in the different zones of the social media universe,
I feel like Twitter, threads, blue sky, all the other text first.
I think you think that is proof how nostalgic you still are for Twitter, really?
Like, old Twitter. I mean, that's what it originally was. It's just like a 140 character SMS text-only. I missed the old Twitter. Yeah.
That was pretty original. No, blue sky.
“If you have to be a blue sky to not be an asshole, then I guess that's the correct theory.”
I want to say there's plenty of assholes on blue sky too. Oh, yeah. Sure. I think the real answer is that there's just no good social media anymore. Well, all of it's bad now.
Hmm. I don't know. It's hard to be anywhere post anywhere without, like, if I go on Twitter because there are links that we send through Slack and whatever and there's, like, news updates and stuff. So I have to read that and I'm through the comments and all this stuff.
And like, man, when they say that that place is turned into, like, an anti-born bar, that's what a lot of it is. And sometimes I'll watch it. I'll, like, click on a video on Twitter and auto place it next one and it's just straight porn.
So he's gonna say, why not gay porn?
This is really the first on since we've said, here's what I'll say about Twitter.
I mean, I've kept using. I still use Twitter, uh, threads. I don't really, I, we post on Facebook, but I don't really use it very much. But Twitter is still the best and worst at some things. It's still the best at current events happenings right now when, when the Super Bowl is
happening, when all start weekend was happening, when the Blizzard was happening, it's like, that was the, what's happening place. Breads is trying to be that. It's not. It's just trying.
It's not there yet.
“That's what I, that's what Twitter's still the best at.”
And it is also the worst at, like, all the worst people are, like, if it's the biggest place. Yeah. Like, there's assholes everywhere, but all the worst people are, are also on Twitter. So it's like the easiest for it to be terrible. There's a lot of, like, Karen's on threads, though, because they're all from Facebook.
That's the thing. They, like, unloaded a lot of people from Facebook. Yeah, it's hard. Threads is, everyone has two individualized of an algorithm. Like, everyone's experience on Threads is completely different.
The thing that was so amazing about Twitter in the Hade and still does persist in a way
on there is that there is a monoculture conversation going on where people are all talking about the same thing when, like, when the open cloth stuff was happening. Oh, you, you seem to see that at the very tail end somehow, the open cloth stuff. Yeah. It was, like, my entire timeline for, like, a week.
Yeah. So there, there is more of a, a mono conversation, and I do miss that aspect of a social media platform. Yeah. Yeah. I think Twitter, like, good tweets have this, this radio active and succinct quality
that blue sky posts just, I haven't found. There are funny people on blue sky. There are, can I read you a tweet that I saw this morning that is still in my brain. Is it a tweeter ski? It's a tweet.
Okay. It's from @richdecibles, SF guy eating a delicious blueberry, colon in 18 months. Everything will be blueberries. Like, that's good. Yeah.
Well, that's also Twitter is just San Francisco as well. That's the other thing. Everyone that posts on Twitter thinks that the entire world is San Francisco. I guess not. I do think we are all in tech Twitter and so that is the specific, you know, monoculture
we see. I think if you're not in the tech world, you're, unfortunately, the tech Twitter is probably way too close to a lot of other twitters that are really said, and that's, I don't think you're an asshole for using Twitter. I'm just way happier not using Twitter.
It's like every time I go on it, because like David said, we're trying to figure out what to like talk about on the pod. I'm 10 minutes and I'm just like, I'm so bummed out right now. And there was maybe one funny tweet like that in there in the process of me getting really bummed.
Yeah. Well, this is like we have two, yes, you are the asshole, one, no, I'm not the asshole. You'd be a happier asshole without you. Meaning I am the asshole. Yeah.
I do wish, blue sky had that juice, you know, I'm saying. Yeah.
“We're all just, this is, this is the only thing Marcus is nostalgic over.”
Old Twitter? No, back there. But like, back there basal for sure. I mean, that's like, I'll negate everything I've ever said in my life for that. I know.
I know. Just for a while. But back there basal towards that. All right. Here's another sticky one.
Sure. And I, the asshole for switching to Android in an iOS family or friend group. And I feel like those are two separate answers. No. No.
No. Everyone's on. Okay. Depends.
Everyone should be using third party messaging platforms any way, but not.
Well, actually, the perfect, in a perfect world RCS would actually work. Yeah. I texted David Pierce this morning who recently switched to an Android phone. It, none of them got delivered, and that said not delivered. And it said RCS next to it, because I found RCS not delivering those messages.
Then I message him on the signal and I said, hey, did you get any of that?
And he said, no.
“And I said, when did you switch to your Android phone, he said, a week ago.”
So the fact that it still hasn't fixed itself, like, this is the problem.
And it just keeps bringing you back. But I would say, absolutely not. Freedom. The reason I say it depends is if your family has a family group chat in, like, if they, like, actively depend on it and use features from it, like, face times are like,
I message stuff all the time, then that would feel worse. You know what I mean? Like, I could still join a face time for my Android phone, but breaking up, you know, the family. And especially now with Apple, the Apple, one family plans, friends do not share
eye cloud storage, but families often do now. Yeah. But then I guess you'd also be freeing up eye cloud storage for your. Yeah, you'd be on your own, well, with photos life. Like, I have an eye cloud family plan with people who are just my friends.
Yeah, but don't tell the world, like, you know, I guess we're still, we're still siblings or YouTube TV or premium or what. I would say that the analogy that I'd make is shell creating the whole carbon footprint thing to make individuals feel bad about their carbon footprint, whereas Apple is creating the problem to make individuals feel bad about switching to Android bars.
So it's Apple's fault, Apple's the asshole, not yes, that's actually that's a great take. Apple's the asshole. I like that take.
I've just never encountered an issue with this ever, maybe because I've always just
been on Android, maybe because I have a bunch of families on Android, I've just never had a person text me and be like, why, why are you on Android? I could do a friend you've never won. It's a one way door. Yeah.
And maybe they're saying it by my back and they're super nice to me, but I just have such a hard time believing there's all these, this bullying going to be like switch to an iPhone. You'll see, like, this whole world of group chats that you've never in, like, it's like putting on the colorblind.
It's the first time, and I'm like, oh my God, blue. I switch all the time and at one point when I switch from iPhone to Android, just had to make a brand new group chat with me and my family and she titled it Adam no longer has an iPhone. Well, title of the group.
Hold on. It was just, if you switch once, you switch every three months, you're at the console. Yeah. But Adam keeps his eye message off, though.
Yeah.
So the expectation is that he's never been on eye message.
Really, it's effort. I know that there's all this data that says that I message is not
“the only thing that keeps people on there.”
I'm pretty sure it's eye message. It's eye message. It's the only reason why I'm still on an iPhone. So while we're talking about Apple stuff, am I the asshole? I pay for the eye cloud storage for my family and no, we keep running out of space.
Am I the asshole for telling my family to delete photos and videos? But I don't. You can pay for all. If you're paying for it, you're too nice. If you're going out to a restaurant, you're paying. There's a certain amount that people are allowed to order before they're there.
That's such a good point. This is to be like, I got dinner tonight and then your mom's like a five wagging. Oh, my. They're getting a roasted chicken at best, no drink. Yeah.
I'm your not an asshole. You're saying, yeah, you're paying. Yeah. Well, this hypothetical. It is an awkward.
It's an awkward conversation to have though. It is. That's or like, can everyone toss me a couple bucks for this thing. None of you even really knows is a real thing because photos are just getting saved to it. No.
Yeah. If you are in that specific situation, you have every right to ask the people participating to chip in so that they don't have to delete stuff. But if they're not going to chip in or the one paying, you're not the asshole. You'd tell them to delete some stuff. 100%.
I agree. 100%. And that's not the asshole. This one's inspired by a Reddit post.
“Am I the asshole for bringing my Xbox on my honeymoon?”
No. The more so. This is so dependent on the person. I don't want to get into the specifics of this person's relationship that they fall to the post.
So just take this as abstract as you can. This is a person that would bring their Xbox on their own. They wrote, they wrote so much stuff. What game are they playing? [LAUGHTER]
I don't know. If you're married to this guy, shouldn't you know how much he likes playing? I don't know. I don't know. Wait.
I want to try this. I want to try and turn this into how do we make it okay to bring the Xbox on my honeymoon? If you have boundaries on when you're allowed to play. I'm thinking there's some issue that they will have with the amount of time that they'll be spent playing the Xbox versus doing other honeymoon.
Yeah. Just bring your steam deck, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's the Port of Xbox, the RG ally.
I get it. They want to have those things. The RG ally. I'm the Phoenix. The RG Xbox, Alex.
Yeah. Yeah. Is it like does he not sleep that much?
Maybe he's like, oh, I want to play some Xbox, why she sleeps so fully at hours
and relax.
And I'm a four hour sleeper.
Sound like you're speaking from experience here. No, dude. No. I don't think my honeymoon had a TV in the hotel. And you play Dota with a guy in Egypt who just had a kid and he plays with me when
his wife goes to bed. That's fine. But dude, anyone see the clip of the guy who brought his Xbox to the labor and delivery room. And he's like getting handed the baby and he like takes a sense.
No. That's not a parody. That's like sad. It has to be fair. It has to be fair.
Otherwise that's an addiction. That's crazy. That's a problem. I don't know.
How long is your honeymoon?
So people go out of really long honeymoon. That's true. But I'm trying here because it's so obviously the asshole. Well, I'm trying to give him what if he has like a weekly meetup with like his brother's got a raise.
He's your honeymoon. He's playing. He's playing. That. What if he's playing?
Wow. He's got a raise. He's the core. He could be the killed leader. No way.
What if it's Fox? Everyone changes their mind.
“I think he got to be able to find a way to do this.”
How about communication? Let's start there.
If you're marrying anyone other than Princess Peach or Cortana, you don't need.
Don't need video games on your honeymoon. I think she should. Unless you're both playing, which then you would need to bring two Xbox. Bring a controller. Bring an extra controller.
How many clothes are you leaving behind? To pack that. That's a lot, like, yeah, which is a lot of the urge A.C.R.R.G. Xbox L.A.X. All the Xboxes are pretty big. That's the S. The series asks.
What if she loves playing the game with you? That's different. I don't think this would be in red if that was clear. I guess so. No, a play station.
Totally cool. I saw I just don't think people in the internet should just be speculating about each other. This one is straight from red it. I'm going to read this one all the way through because this one is M.I. the asshole for connecting to the airport that my niece swallowed to see if it would play in her stomach.
When my three-year-old niece swallowed my sister's left airport, everyone started worrying right away. I was trying to lighten the situation, so I connected the airport to my phone and put my ear on her stomach to check if I could hear it. Surprisingly, I actually did hear a little sound coming from inside her, which made the
moment a bit funny to me. The people around us did not find it amusing. They all looked at me like I wasn't taking things seriously at all.
“I don't think you should have done that.”
No, that's really funny. I get the invasive thought, the intrusive thought, I get that completely, but the problem was already that she swallowed a giant piece of plastic with a battery in it, and you just don't know what it's going to do if you play music through it while someone has an instrument, especially a young.
If you're just trying to lighten the mood for the kid who's potentially scared, you can just pretend you heard music. You can be like, "Oh, let me see if there's music playing and you don't have to go through the whole process of counterpoint." You can understand the advice of thought though.
Counterpoint, this was a purely utility-based decision. Someone has to have it in their fine line. Just in case, you can't find it. What? It's already, the guy is there, probably already, is he already?
Well, it's his girlfriend or wife, so like, it doesn't matter. What do you mean? They know she swallowed it, they think she swallowed it. It seems like they know she's-- Was this a confirmed that she swallowed it or they're like, "She definitely didn't
see it. It's already worth it." He was like, "You know, it would be really funny." All of them are like, "What should we do?" He was like, "I should put music on."
I thought it was like, "I think she swallowed the AirPods and they were like, "Oh, my God, did she swallow the AirPods?" Then he connected to it and it was like, "That's fair." Yeah. Totally.
Definitely there. Or if it was like, "Did they know already?" Do you see that? It's not a utility anymore. Have you see, do you see, I see that like TikTok Instagram real short from video thing?
I was like, the music for like, funk for frogs with all the like, like, "Why, why, why?" No. Okay, someone knows what I'm talking about and they know that that's the only appropriate song to play in someone's style, like, "I've seen your sense like David Williams. stomach."
Yeah. I feel like if he's has the time to do all of that, they couldn't have all been that word of the situation or they would have already been driving her to the hospital, no? Yeah.
Yeah.
“I don't know how worried you have to be about that.”
Are they? They're probably all searching what to do. Well, it's like, should we wait for it to come out or do we have to take her? If Wayne swallows an AirPods, I'm going to love him. Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a three-year-old though, so I don't know.
And listen, I understand in America, that might automatically be a bill that's literally clarifying. Terrifying. So maybe that's different. I would go to urging Karen to get an opinion.
Okay. That'll be like 5,000. No. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I'd probably let the situation to one day. I would confirm everything safe before I start screwing around like that. Yeah.
How do you even confirm that? A doctor. A little doctor. I would wait till I check the doctor. Tell sweet the hospital.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
“I think you meant like while they're trying to figure it out, you would confirm.”
And then the doctor's like, are you sure she swallowed it? And he's like, yeah, listen, listen. Listen. See. Yeah.
That's definitely in there. Yeah. All right. So are we agreeing? He's probably the answer.
Yeah. Yeah. That first. It was a poor blue. I understand the entries of thought.
I do. It was important. If it was like a fake scenario with like a fake daughter, then yeah, I do it. But if it was a real daughter.
No. They're not going to be a good good. All right. This one comes from someone in the studio. You guys can guess who after this.
Right. Yeah. After this. Am I the asshole for correcting someone who said their phone has 256 gigs of RAM? Yeah.
Yeah. They would instantaneously. Honestly in this idea. It's a context. Okay.
First, the M.I.N. asshole part.
Not really. It's probably harmless that the person doesn't know the difference between storage and RAM. Yeah. As long as you didn't say it, like an asshole. Yeah.
“That's what we really just kind of a well actually person.”
Yeah. What do you really like? I think it's probably fine. People probably don't understand that everyone who works here isn't like a megaphone nerd. Like there are a lot of people who don't do what yeah.
Like they said a RAM. They're right there. They're so close. I think in us telling each other when a mistake like that happens is beneficial. So we don't.
I mean, we're a company that talks about tech a lot. Yeah. Say it nicely. I think everyone in here knows how to say things nicely. Say well technically it is like swap memory.
Okay. What if it wasn't here? What if it was just like out and about in life. Oh. And like some random person was like yeah my phone.
Yeah. I think it was 256. Exactly. And you were like memory. I would just be like storage.
I'm the asshole because I don't care enough to correct them. Yeah. I don't know. Here's the follow up is like I think you're right. But what if someone uses the word memory when they mean storage?
Hmm. You know there is. I was thinking about that. I think. I don't think this computer exists.
“But I think their at some point was a max studio or something where you could genuinely”
get either 256 gigs of storage or 256 gigs of RAM. Right. Isn't the max studio you can get like. I think that minimum storage to have a terabyte. Yeah.
You can also get a terabyte of memory. But it's not. So you can genuinely. You could get both. You could say it to the person and they could be like are you sure you mean memory or storage.
And that is the one computer where it actually matters. Yeah. Otherwise it kind of doesn't usually matter. You would know that. And there's kind of a random one-off situation.
The whole thing of like calling storage memory perks me so much. But I know that's because I'm a turd. Like I should not go correcting people like that. But there have been I've seen Walmart like plaques in front of laptops that say like 256 gigs of memory. And it's like that's just wrong.
So I guess it's a reasonable mistake to make it.
I'm never correcting someone in public.
Was there like a colloquial text back on phones that everyone used to call some some speck. And then it wasn't technically correct. But everyone we get upset. Is that the exomer? No. It was like, there was some speck that we called it like a one inch sensor or something.
Hmm. How's not really one inch? It wasn't that. It was like, yeah, maybe we should just cut this. I don't remember what it is.
But I just remember someone getting mad at me in the android authority comments being like, It's not that. And I was like, yeah, but everyone calls it that. Yeah. I was going to say that that's the other thing is our online people correcting us assholes.
Not really because you expect us to get it right and it's important. But if it's just a random person out there. Hmm. Not that important. Right.
Yeah. Okay. Who in the off someone in the office corrected someone outside of the office about? This came from someone in the office. Okay. They don't specify who they corrected it or anything like that.
It's just this was on a thing that happened in hypothetical. Yeah. Hypothetically. Yeah. I just kind of think it makes you a well actually kind of person.
The best kind of person. Like that person probably doesn't even know what RAM is. Well, actually they do know what RAM is. Who? No, I'm joking. It was miles.
Miles doesn't know where I am. He's a piece of Nexus 6P. It does need RAM.
Or we're going.
We don't need RAM.
I'm going to say kind of.
Kind of. Yeah, kind of for saying it for just for correct. And for being the well actually guy that nobody wants to be around.
“What if they're telling you like I'm about to go buy this thing?”
Then I would correct them. Then I would make sure they know. Yeah, it's a good point. This is like when my sister like texted me that she bought a Mac Mini and I was like, Oh, you know, you can buy the higher storage one for the same price for the next week, right?
You should return it and bring it back. She's like, no, I'm good. It was like, what? I don't know. She's like, what am I going to use the storage for?
She's like, it doesn't matter. I don't know. She's like, I just go on a website. It's like, oh my god. I guess she's fine.
I guess she's fine. I mean, this is also funny because this gets kind of close to my am I an asshole? But not exactly. Well, that's a great segue. Should I just do mine?
Yeah, do yours. Alright, I brought one. Am I an asshole? Am I the asshole? Take a addition.
Okay. Okay. So you know how when people are out and like hanging around socializing, just randomly having conversations outside. Never done that.
Outside sometimes, yeah.
“I'll touch grass and they'll be like, hey, I wonder, like, why is the grass like this?”
Or like, you ever wonder this random thing and I'll just bring up a random fact. You ever know? And then that will be like the fodder of the conversation for like five minutes. Yeah. Every single time.
You just look at it. I take out my phone. Yeah. And I look up the answer because I feel like our conversation should be about the answer, instead of just kind of wandering around.
And I always wonder like, I might be asshole for that.
Oh. No. I know you want to just have a conversation. No, this is meaningless. You don't care what the answer is.
But wouldn't it be better if we have these areas? This isn't Joe Rogan. We can get straight to the point. No. I hear you.
You know, I literally have had friends be like, we don't need to look it up. We just need to bathe in the magic of of wondering. I think it that I was on the conversation. But we have unlimited information. We live in 2006.
Yeah. We can just say it into the air and the answer will appear. I understand the value of like having this like maybe maybe totalization. And maybe you can give that like two minutes. You should personally set a timer.
“But if you just go, what does everyone think it is?”
That's actually usually how it goes. Everyone will go like, man, how tall do you think that giraffe is? Is that like tall for a giraffe? And before you even finish thinking about it, I've googled the average height of a giraffe.
Because what good is the rest of our conversation? If there's no basis in reality. Oh, bad dude. You know? And you can tell me from the asshole.
I want to know. I can't. I don't want to say that. Because I do the exact same thing. But I, it is kind of an asshole.
He can both be assholes. You, that's the way you describe it. It is like. What is the value in a commute continues to talk? What do we have to do?
I'm just imagining Mark has just like, I don't know that's average for giraffe. And then everyone just sits there quiet. And looks at each other's like, yeah, we all know. I think that's exactly how the sooner CEO came up with that.
People actually like making music. If you could just generate music, wouldn't you just do that? Yeah, musicians famously hate making music. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I think people just like having conversations and like speculating randomly. Yes.
But if there's like a real answer. It's about just, yeah. I don't think it detracts from the conversation. We could just like pivot the conversation a little. You can just stay on the corner with the knowledge
and let them kind of do it. I try sometimes. I try. I'm imagining Mark has that bar trivia. I was like, how was anyone getting this wrong? I could like this so easy.
I wouldn't do this at bar trivia. I'd like any of Mark has looking up the answer and then just keep it to himself. What? I was like, I mean, I don't know.
They don't know. I already know that. I recently reviewed that. And I waited to the end of the conversation and then I just spit out the answer.
Or my opinion. Nobody cared. It wasn't that he bought us. I would that. It's the answer.
Just being like, "Case anyone's wondering." I let you peasants run in your script. You're frivolous little circles. You know how they say that the arguments never about the dishes.
The conversations never about the answer.
That's exactly right. It's just about the connection. It just depends also like, if you're in the middle of a conversation about, I don't know,
philosophy or something. And then someone's trying to quote this one philosopher, but they can't quite remember the name. But that's not like important to the point.
I think it makes you to ask, to really quickly Google that philosopher. And be like, "Well, actually, it's your point. It was this person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."
Yeah. But if it's just like, who was that guy that said this thing, then yeah, just (beep) it'll usually be a conversation
where the conversation is guessing about a fact. Like, right. How far away do you think that mountain is?
It looks like it's so far away.
And I'm already on Google. It's not. Like, we were going to have a conversation and being like, "Well, it's super tall." But like, usually buildings look really tall
when they're, like, far away. But when--
It's like that's the first thing.
Like, they were going to have this whole conversation. And I sort of just, you know, that's where it skipped the whole talking thing. Because it moved on. Double tapped on the right side of the screen.
Yeah, I just fast-forwarded. I feel like Mark has his argument. I love this. I like this one because it's so new. This is so good.
It's the problem. I do this too. So if you guys decide that it's an asshole thing. I do this too.
“I think you're aware enough that makes you not the asshole.”
It just can't stop. It sounds like-- It's you're going to search no matter what you do. You want to know the answer. It sounds like you are aware enough
in the conversation so no one to bring it up. Which in itself is being polite enough for everybody's. Yeah. But now, anytime we're talking,
if I see Mark has just looking like he's going to, you know, the me where the guy's like veins popping out of the set. Yeah. Yeah.
That's Mark has with the answer. I have an extension of this that I realize that I'm kind of an asshole for doing, but I want you guys to have been in. Okay. So it's when one of my friends says something,
and I just don't think it's true. And I immediately look it up. And I'm not like-- I do this all the time. I don't really think that's--
I literally did this to you on the podcast this morning. What you said, I was using Final Cut 7. Oh, that's different. I was trying to-- You were trying to--
I was trying to-- Yeah. But just prove that. You missed information. Yeah, I just did it.
No. And so like, I've had they will mock me now. Every time I'm like, they're like, I don't think that's fine.
Right. It's gonna-- You gotta like bring it up tactfully, you know? I'm like, I'm sorry. You know, but if you don't do it in that moment,
then when it's even a way you later, it's way worse to call them at 9 PM and be like, you were wrong about this in the segment. The phone up. It's worth it.
Here's my version of this. It's like, when someone you know post something on social media that you know is factually inaccurate, or worse,
mis-slash disinformation. I would text them and say this is wrong. Because someone I know did that. And I-- They posted something on their story.
That was like so obviously, like, that person did not say that. You could just tell me-- And I wasn't like--
“I haven't posted it all while, so I think I'm okay.”
Yeah. It wasn't anyone in this room. Okay. But it was someone who works here. Oh!
On social media, if I really liked them and know it was probably by accident, I'll throw a message. If I know it's probably misinformation, I probably just unfriend them,
because I'm so tired of that on social media at this point.
I would always at least bring it up.
I did not, so I guess that makes-- I thought I was not being asshole by not bringing it up. But it sounds like-- Yeah. That sounds like there's so much nuance to it.
Yeah. There was a person-- Yeah. Yeah. And the relationship with the person.
Yeah. Do you think that the misquote was like-- You don't think it was intentional? I know it wasn't intentional, because the commentary about the quote was like,
"Can you believe this person set this to which I was like-- No. Yeah. I cannot believe that this-- Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I'd bring it up to them. I think thanks are important.
“So you know, that's why I tend to Google things the way too soon.”
I understand it in the corner. I let people tell me. Well, I think on that note, it begs a question. Am I the asshole for taking us to a quick ad break and letting everyone know that we'll be right back?
Uh, I'm going to have to look better. I don't know. Well, while you look that up, here's a word from our sponsors, read by us, or maybe someone else.
Like it. (upbeat music) All right, well, we're back. Um, welcome back to, all right, I'm not doing that voice. This one comes from blank in the studio,
so you guys have to guess who it is, but I just find it funny. Am I the asshole for saying nice to E-Meat you? Yes. (laughs)
John, no. I don't think John don't do that. No. That's like Eric. I'm with those Eric.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. That's my least favorite. Is this Rich? This person's right.
This person is asking if they're the asshole for hating people. Oh, no. No. No. No.
No. I hate everyone who says that. Yeah. If I see the email, and it says that I deleted immediately.
(laughs) I don't go that far, but it's immediate sour taste. Like as I did. And I almost assumed they do not care about the email.
Yeah. Like who are you Vince surf?
Like did you just receive the first email ever?
If it's a word of God. Is it, do you guys see it differently as the opening email to you? That says it. Or when someone gets added to an email where a conversation's been going on.
The other person feels kind of awkward coming into the conversation.
They're like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. Just say me. I don't care. Yeah.
“I feel like his mind or just like be introduced.”
Yeah. I had like an in person version of this recently. So, fun fact. When one shot the Rivian R2, we went up to California, me and Miles.
And there's a couple of YouTubers there. Doug Mirror was there. One up said, hey, Doug, good to see you. He said nice to meet you. I was like, oh, we haven't.
You guys have never met.
And in that moment, realize we've never met.
And I, I do this to other people all the time. We're all go, hi, good to meet you. And I'll go, good to see you again. And I'll go, shit. (laughs)
Well, it's 'cause good to see you. You're the assholes. The safest possible thing. So I don't know if you've met me. Exactly.
So I've just erased nice to meet you. And I never say nice to meet you ever to anyone. I just say good to see you. That's because there's a strong move. Always a chance.
It's the power move. Yeah. Yeah. So nice to meet you. I often say it's great to finally meet in real life.
That's right. Or just nice to finally meet you. It's like, we like, yeah. I'm surprised I haven't met you. What if we met already?
And you don't remember. Man on an asshole. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Yeah. There's obviously a difference, but you don't have to say,
you mean that's like, I'm not mad if someone says it. But I'm not like, I don't like it. Yeah. Farmers, eMeat.com. I prefer saying thank you for gracing like digital sanctum.
Jesus. That's never by now. Say eMeat. Please say eMeat. That's a good joke.
Now, eMeat is awful.
“Do you want to guess who is so pissed off by the phrase nice to eMeat?”
That they felt the need to. I would guess at that point, Jono, because he just has the most eMeat. It's not Jono and it's not Moriah. Is it? I don't think Moriah gets that pissed off about anything.
I see eMeat here. I feel like almost everyone would hate that. Did it? Did everybody hate that? I could see Eric doing the, like, semi-sign-filled joke about it at lunch.
Is it then? It feels very obvious to me, but it's like the answer. No. It's eMeat. Harper.
No. Wow. Who's lunch? Michael. No.
It's eMeat. I wish he was Barcassee. I wish he was Barcassee. I wish he was Barcassee. Tim.
Tim. I can see that. Yeah. Tim and I get annoyed at the same thing. Everyone emailed him and just say, "Hi.
I can see eMeat you." Tim and I can see that. Let's slice him out here. Here's another one from inside the house. That's bad.
That's a bad joke. It's coming from inside. Oh, so bad. What I would be the asshole for checking my phone while watching a movie
at home with someone without getting a notification first.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. So. You're at home.
Yeah. You're at home. You're just checking just to see. You're just checking. Wait, wait.
Yeah. You know. You're just checking. Just like unlocking. This person.
Yes. As you mentioned, you are not scrolling. You're just thinking. You're unlocking. Yeah.
You're just unlocking. See no notifications. Turned off. Put a face down again. Sure.
I don't think it makes you an asshole because it's like a. We've been accustomed. We're just a modern human. Yeah. You're checking the extension of your body.
Aren't all modern humans assholes. You're just alive in 2026. I mean, everyone, like, unlocks their phone and locks it. Being like, what the heck am I doing all the time? Yeah.
So I don't think that that makes you an asshole.
“I think the fact that I'm during a movie.”
You put the phone down and went, am I an asshole? I think that's enough that you're not an asshole. Looking up something. Awareness is key. And a lot of these.
I feel good. I don't know. Like, just using an app separately from the movie. I think you kind of an asshole. I think you're not the asshole, but I think if you're thinking about it,
you've realized that like, man, I need to work on my phone. Babe, I'm willing to die on this hill.
I don't think you can pull your phone out even for one second,
even for one frame of a movie and still say you watched the movie. There's not a thing, if you, I think the movie should be better. And I shouldn't want to pull my phone. If you're watching a movie. There's no slow parts in movies.
I'm not saying you can't, like, blink. No, but it's, do the amount of times I've been, like, you don't really excited to show you this movie. Yeah. That's so bad.
There's not a single second that I would say, like, yeah, you could miss those. So that nothing, man. It's like when I'm having a conversation with someone, and then they just start texting someone, I don't like damn.
Oh, I do that all the time. I know. We're all cooked with these. That's great. Oh, yeah, I was totally watching this movie.
Yeah, well, if you tell someone to watch a movie, but they're wearing their meta Orion. That's not, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's all. Wait, real quick. So they, you are an asshole for pulling your phone out.
I'm overriding you. Am I a asshole for, for any reason, during the movie. Am I an asshole for owning meta, just play a smart. Yes. If we're at your house, and we're watching a movie that you wanted to watch,
you can pull out your phone and do it all the time. But I'm, if I'm watching a movie. I will say, movie theater, dark tons of other people. Don't pull your phone out at all. Wait, like, even just the real quick look at it
is like a flashbang going off, I feel like.
Don't say life hack, which last time I said life hack,
someone put it in a clip and said David's top productivity apps,
“which is insane because I'm not a product.”
I'm first. And it was literally making my bed in the morning. They made turn into a YouTube clip for some reason. Anyway, I feel so much better to have your bed made. Yeah.
And then someone made a YouTube show. It's not a life hack game. That's actually something that takes more activity. That's not it. Anyway.
I think people should be. Should use do not disturb way more than they do currently. Yeah. I am so liberal with that. Do not disturb button.
As soon as I start watching a movie with a friend. Do not disturb. Yeah, this phone's over here. Do not disturb. Go to dinner.
Do not disturb. I saw a screenshot on Twitter of someone who in their email signature,
like the automatically generated email signature.
It said I only respond to emails on Tuesdays between 7 and 8 and Thursdays between 7 and 8 p.m. Which was like. Looks like I'm not emailing that person. That's sick.
I could never do that. But that's sick as hell to just be like, Listen, you're going to hear from me. Like, I'm outside this time. I'm outside your house trying to deliver this package.
Wait, where are you? Sorry, Ellen. I'm just email. I like that because if you don't, then you know. Okay.
I sent the email. Oh, it's Tuesday at 9 o'clock now. I ain't getting any real back. You've lost already. That's a good policy for someone who doesn't get that many emails.
Awesome. All right. But Mark has you did bring up a good thing.
So I want to talk about VR headset usage because so many of these VR.
So many of these things got past or AR XR. I don't know about the glasses or the headset. Cover the headset. Headset. Okay.
Someone at the office asked. Vision pro on the. Would you be the, yeah. Would you be the asshole for end of the day, bed scroll with your partner doing it in a vision.
Yes. This is. Yes. It's just like the apple ad where they're just like watching on the movie on the vision pro together.
Well, is your mouth open or closed when you're doing it. Hey. Hey. But you're in the, you're in bed with your partner. You want to watch something.
There is sleep inside of it. No. That's not the best. You said bed scroll. That's true.
Yeah. I think it's sort of implied that it's a, that the, that your partner is awake. It's a great. Yeah. So, okay.
I was going to say, because there's so many times I'm watching TV like Claire falls asleep. And in that scenario, the TV is on in the whole room is bright because I'm watching the TV. So using a VR headset might be the more polite way of doing it. I've seen that argument unless she wakes up and sees me at a VR headset. Edmended scares that have a little kiss out of her.
I've also seen the argument of, well, if you're like late night gaming or like doing, we're watching a movie, for example. Are you? You're, you're part of trying to sleep, but you want to watch a movie. You have the headset on and this, and the headphones on.
So you're not waking up the person sleeping. That is the opposite of being an asshole. It's very courteous if you put a headset on. Yeah. But it's okay.
But what you're describing, which is the, which is a group activity, the late, about to go to sleep scroll, where you show them something and they're like laugh, laugh.
“Then I think you, you have to take the headset off.”
You can't share that with them. Yeah. Unless you have, what's the feature where they can see the same thing? Share spaces unless you're doing that, then you're really modern. I don't think, I don't think anyone has ever done that.
I was out of the Apple campus. I do once a year for the briefing. Yeah, for the briefing. And I'm like, oh, we can play chess and vision pro. And then I'm like, I played chess in a real life.
A lot of these relationship ones can usually be done with just talk to your partner before you do the thing. Probably so easy or before you do the thing. I have one that's inspired by our very own Ellis. So Ellis, you cannot partake in this one. Okay.
My packages keep getting stolen from my apartment. So I installed a ring camera. My neighbor then complained that he doesn't feel comfortable because it's pointed right at his front door, but I refuse to remove it. Am I the asshole?
Yes. No. Is it? Whoa. Ellis saying this from the position of his neighbor?
No, I wrote it. Yeah. I'm saying it's inspired by Ellis's story. He told a couple of weeks ago. Okay.
I think it's even though this literally happened to me. Like, I am literally that guy. Was that guy? That neighbor no longer is my neighbor. But, um, so none of my current neighbors.
I've been a put up a ring camera because it'll happen to you too. You also be a former neighbor. But, um, but, uh, I'm, I'm not even sure that they're the asshole. You know, I think if the explicit problem was their package.
I just keep getting stolen. Then that is a valid attempt at dissuading or solving or getting a.
“That's like the best way to like get a picture of the person.”
Pointed at your door. It happens. Well, but that's like, you know, my situation. It's, it's like, where it's sort of like the corner of a hallway. And so there's two doors perpendicular to one another.
Yeah. So their doorbell being like on their door faces right at your door faces right at my door.
They, I am realizing this moment.
They could have gotten one of the angled holders. So it goes across their door perpendicular and then we'll look at a wall.
“So maybe you, but what's it going to stop if it looks at a wall?”
Yes. What's a ring camera going to stop or not stop? You're going to see who's stealing it. Yeah. But you know there's a 50% chance they think you're stealing the packages.
Right? I mean, it does kind of sound like hey, they take it. That's why.
But first of all, I just want to say there's.
Proof at how ridiculous all this is. They still got all of their mail stolen with. Yeah. So it's like now they have a photo of the person. I know the guy was like, like, no one would ever commit a crime when.
When there's a camera zoom. I was like dumb guy actually. Yeah. Sounds very new. I think that if I was, if I was that in that neighbor's shoes and I was like,
Dang, I keep my packages keep hitting so on. And I don't, I'm going to keep getting packages. What is the most productive thing that I can do in this case? I can't like prevent the packages from being stolen. If they keep hitting delivered.
But I can get a literal photo of the person who's stealing the packages. And then maybe get that to the police or something like, I can do something here with a ring cam. I was set a trap. But then if your neighbor comes, okay, Mark Rover.
But then if your neighbor comes and says, like, hey, this bothers me.
Then he can be like, hey, neighbor, I understand this bothers you. What's been bothering me is all my packages getting stolen. So maybe we could collaborate on like a solution that works for both of us. Two, man, I know you said not a lot of traffic. And I haven't really got it because I, No, I, I, yeah, it's just mine.
You could put a ring cam or, you know, facing, not my, like, there is a, there's a way. That's a good call. I should have, I should have proposed that. That, that was on me. Also, I live in the same building.
And I just don't ship stuff there. Yeah. I was going to say everyone has that benefit. And being able to like get it to their words. It's not every.
It depends on ways. There's ways to figure this out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If that guy was stealing that person's bag.
Definitely, definitely. I was stealing the package. I really hope these neighbors, these former neighbors who were really, really, great neighbors don't hear this. If I had my packages stolen, put up a ring camera at immediately.
My neighbor was like, you take that camera down. I would be like, Oh, my God. I know who's doing it now. I'm definitely using it. Yeah.
I'd be like, Oh, it's a fake camera. And then it'd be odd. And then I'd watch it. Let's steal my packages. That's what he's probably hoping.
That's probably shocked when it wasn't Alice stealing the package. It's a tough one.
“I think also in a situation where you're living in like an apartment complex or whatever,”
where doors are so close. It's like a. It's tough to figure stuff out like that. But I still wouldn't. I still even though I was the one agreed by the situation.
I still would not say you're the asshole for doing that. Maybe it's just because I, I'd like these people. But, um, No back chart now. You're just threatening them 10 minutes ago.
We just know that they're not. Listen, I love that all their packages were great. [laughter] If it's all about intent, then I would say the intent is is not bad. They're not an asshole.
Oh, the asshole. I can throw mine out if we're ready for another one. I had a hard time thinking of mine because I think I'm extremely uncomfortable. So I'd rather just not be the asshole. But that's not being the asshole.
Makes you the asshole. Well, probably. I also say I can't think of anybody, but that doesn't mean that no one else can think of one. Because Mark has thought of one immediately. Which is, I don't.
“I think people in this room will agree with me.”
I'm not the asshole, but I think the reason they'll agree with me probably makes me more of an asshole. And I'll explain that in a second. Mark has said, well, you do use a mechanical keyboard inside the studio with other people who work here. You're the asshole. A lot of people online call me the asshole for that.
I think the reason you guys might not is because I've probably convinced all of you guys to also use mechanical keyboards in the studio, which makes me a bigger asshole because now lots of people use mechanical keyboards. There's no such thing as silence in this studio. But there's already enough sound pollution all the time that it just kind of fades into the background. There's like a den of the studio now of the HVACs and the mechanical keyboards and the dog foot prints or whatever the pitter pattern.
There's just kind of like always a little bit of noise.
There are only like five of us. It was like, you're really quiet sometimes. You'd be like, you know, I'll do it this under desk. And I'd just be like, I think I'd be like, nobody's talking. That's super weird.
I can't talk to Adam. Yeah. He would just text me like, what do you think they're thinking about? You can't know when someone's really in the zone too. Cause it's just, yeah.
Yeah. We could train. What's that Apple TV show severance? You know, like a workspace like that where it's like just stark. And like one person has a mechanical keyboard.
That would be pretty bad. That would feel like you're making too much noise. So I'm not the asshole because I gave you all enough keyboards to make it not solely my fall anymore.
You helped increase the noise floor enough that you didn't, you weren't such ...
So that's, yeah, you're not the asshole.
Yeah. I have a feeling out of everything we've talked about in the comments. I'm going to get shit on the most right now. People really get all the studio videos we've made about mechanical keyboards. A lot of people being really mad at me for even thinking about using one in the office.
It's very satisfying. That's like the, see, every hobby has this. It's like people who like loud cars. It's like, well, your neighbors hate you. But if all your neighbors had loud cars, you know, it'll be chilled.
The thing about a loud car because I am one of those neighbors that hate loud cars is don't. It's the time of day. If it's 2pm, I'm running to the window to see what car it is. Sure. If it's 2am, you're an asshole.
Yeah, that's valid. That's valid. Hot take.
“That's how I feel about people who played music out of speakers on the subway.”
Hmm. There. Oh, what people are like, oh, like, it's so disruptive. It's sort of like, I'm like, yeah, do you hate music? Yeah.
What is wrong with you?
Is it 100% asshole if you're the music on speakers on a hike, guys?
Yes. I was right under that sense. Oh, that's 100%. Especially in a national park. Oh, it's like a, you're probably spending a lot of money to vacation there.
It's like, if for the surreal sounds and then there's just, Creed playing. I think my little distance, you know. My favorite part about national parks is how many times you can be in a scenario. Like, I don't think anyone's within miles of me.
And then, yeah, if. Yeah, yeah. It's the. It's the switchback coming out. That's just shitty music.
It's like, it's not like I want to hear the subway. You know, like. Yeah. Am I the asshole for interrupting you to take us to another ad bring? Oh.
Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. I don't think that's true. Yeah.
This important. This fire. We'll be back after these minutes. All right. Welcome back.
I have one that has plagued people for generations. Um, probably only one generation because that's powered. The technology is. Uh, okay. Location sharing.
This is a very widely debated topic. This is if you don't want to share your location with your partner. Hmm. And they really want you to. Does that make you an asshole?
The simple question is why that is the only question. I mean, for me, you're saying, why do you not want to know why do they want it so badly? Interesting. Well, maybe that's just me asking that. But here's the crazy thing is like the reason I don't like sharing my location really with anybody is just because I just don't think anyone has the right to have my location ever.
Just as a principal thing except that he Google.
“Well, that's what I wanted to ask is is.”
Is her right. Sergei Britain. He's no one at any time. Come on. Sergei is part of it.
He's part of it with your drone. Reasoning is like giving apps. The, uh, approval to like track you look at, which I guess they can. No, we're going to ask that. You're not on the person or the person or the person.
I just don't like the idea to find my like find mine. Find mine. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, because there have been scenarios before where someone. I like the plausible deniability, you know.
That's don't use that as your reasoning. That's not what he said. That is my lawyer. I just want to leave the option. No, it isn't my reason.
But just imagine. I mean, there's, there's a lot of reasons. Okay. I just don't like anyone being able to just like open their phone and be like, Oh, David is right here right now.
There's, yeah. I just don't like that. I'm with you. I, I think there's very much two types of people. Yeah.
And I've observed both types. Type one is like they open the thing. And there's a map. And there's 40 dots on there. And I'm like, let's see who's doing.
I'm like, what? Yeah. And then the other half is like, Don't ever look for my dot on a map. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One thing sort of bringing up here though is that for me personally, I know a lot of women in my life like using location sharing because it's like a safety thing.
Absolutely. So in that case, it could be that they're asking for like,
“because that's how they think about location sharing.”
You know? So that's one way. Can you do it one way? Yes. Okay.
Okay. Yes. So that would be, that's one thing. That would be like, I would like someone like my friend to know my location for this amount of time. Or for, for whatever, for as long as they want, that's cool.
It's so an else requesting my location and me not wanting to. You have to see, here's the problem. If it's your partner and your partner says, I want you to have my location all the time. Then you're kind of, are you an asshole for being like,
But I don't want you to have mine. I'm trying to go. It doesn't look pretty. No, I can tell you that. I don't know for us.
I'm just saying like, I was saying like, What's the big deal here? No, because I don't, I just, It's just a principles thing, you know, generally. I will say it.
It's very much like the, yeah.
It's, I think it's safe to say if the answer is ever,
It's a principles thing. And this is coming for someone who's a pretty principle person. It's ever, it's principle thing. You're probably the asshole.
No, there's this.
There's another version of this, which is like,
“I don't want these companies spying on me to give me good ads.”
And it's very much just like the only benefit to that is better, more targeted ads for me. But it's a principles thing. I don't want the company to know all this information about me. And it's not shady.
And they'll always go, Oh, well, what's the worst
like it happened? What's the, what are you hiding? It's like, I'm not hiding anything. It's just a principle. I don't want you to know anything about me.
The asshole. Now, when we flip it, it's like, I don't, It's a principles thing. It's kind of the same thing. I'm not hiding anything.
Yeah, you're not wrong for that. Yeah. Yeah, like when, like on the iPhone when you log into new happiness, the ask ads not to trap or track or allow like more discrete targeting.
Yeah. And it's like, if you do not, like ask ads not to track. It's really just because of your principles. Yeah. I just hit it by default.
I would say you are the asshole. But you are also right. If that makes sense. Interesting. Like you're allowed to be right and be the asshole
in this situation. Yes. That's that nuance.
“I think it's insane that we have as a society”
just completely normalized, like always.
Exactly. Yeah. One is like that anonymity is a blessing. And I, it's insane that we've gotten rid of that. But now because so many people have bought into it,
you become the friction point. You are the one that's like, you know. Yeah. Claire and I never did it until we had Lane. And now knowing the other person might be with Lane in a scenario.
Now we both have location tracking on in case it's like Claire Lane went out to do this. And I haven't heard from them in a little while. That's a good double check it. In terms of doing it previously, we never asked the only.
I would just be really embarrassed by it because Claire would probably longer be like these talkable again. Like, I was making dinner tonight. Yeah. I'll say I used to be a just like never, never, never person.
I have slowly started like just giving people access to it. I think there's a level to it too. How long have you been with the person? Like, if we're on D2 and they're like, let's turn on the location tracking.
I was like, oh my god. No, no. Yeah. No. Yeah.
No. Okay. Question for you.
Because I haven't been on iPhone in a while.
Can you set? Like, can you give them permission for a certain amount of time? Yeah, you can. Okay. You can get for an hour.
Either a certain time or in deafness. Because I know you can do it in Google Maps. I'm not sure if you could do it in one hour or 24 hours or in deafness. No, it's one hour end of day and definitely. Okay.
So you can't be like, here's my week.
“So could you have to turn on every week or turn it off after a week of indefinite?”
Yeah. Which is, you just look like that. Exactly. Yeah. You do indefinite and then it's just like, I would say if you're going to ask somebody to turn
on their location tracking for you, should probably have a somewhat of a reason why you say it. Like, if you're going to be the person to go out and ask, you should be like, not just keep turning your location tracking out or like, do you mind if you turn it on? It'd be nice if I saw you were in traffic on the way home.
And I know not certainly be like stuff like that. If they can give a legitimate reason, then it's really hard to say no to. And then you look. I just weren't being over there. Just the thought of sitting in my car and someone looking at my location without me.
No. It would be fun if your phone just lit up blue everything. Someone looked at your location and just like, boom. Someone checked your location. At least I would know.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want it. It's like in Japan how they mandate that your phone makes a really loud camera.
Snap noise when you take a photo to stop people from peeping. I wish it did that because I just, the, what I don't like is not knowing that people are looking at. Yeah. Yeah.
The color of it is the person who checks your location. So if it's blue every time you're like, oh, that's, that's my spouse. That's totally fine. I'm going to be yellow. I'm going to be yellow.
That's quite nice. I just thought we were talking about only your like significant other. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand why everyone wants to have all their friends on the line.
My girlfriend and I share our locations with each other and for Valentine's. Shut up. And for Valentine's Day, I like cooked her this big dinner. That was a surprise. Oh.
But this funny thing did happen. Where she was like, she texted me. She was like, like, I was going to a butcher to go get ribs. Like really nice. Why are you in a butcher?
Damn. Really nice. Well, no, it's because it's like I needed them cut a really specific way that I didn't have the tools to do myself. So I needed to go to a butcher that was nice enough where I could be like,
listen, I need you to, you know, handle this for me. Oh. That sounds awesome. Yeah. Anyway.
She texted me. She was like, what are you doing tonight? And I was like, oh, I'm just going to go home and work out a little on. And then she was like, why are you here? It was like, uh.
So I'm talking about. It's for a surprise. That's like, now I use things. Exactly. So I can surprise myself.
I think it's cute. I think it's cute. I think it's cute. Like, oh, no one else is up to you. And then she's like, oh, it's a new jersey again.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn, we came to Jersey. No. No. No. Yeah.
I don't know. I just come to Jersey, like, most of everything. I'm just saying, like, I don't know. There's a lot of things, too, that it's like, if I had a spouse who was to, who was the kind of person who wants to, like, look through my text or something. I would never give them access to it.
Well, first of all, I would never day someone who looked through my text.
I was feeling like that's a little, that's the other thing. Okay. Here's the B side of this. Okay. Continue.
Okay. B side. I'm going to just claim her. Never take any, any at all relationship advice. Technology podcast.
I repeat, too. Never take any relationship advice. Oh, ever from a technology podcast. Okay. Here's another print.
Here's another print. Yes. All of your relationship advice from Brian Johnson's Twitter. Yes. That's also a technology podcast.
All right. Here's the B side to this. Is the, if your partner asked to look through your phone,
“even if you had nothing to hide, would you let them do it?”
Yes. Claire has all my passwords. Yeah. I can just, all my passwords and everything, just in case something happens. There's, and it's like,
No, but like, it's, so she can delete my history. It's the same thing. I just need a why. That's all. Oh, like why?
It's like, why do you want my location? If you have a good why, then sure. Like, why do you want to look through my phone? If you have a good why, then sure. Well, for me, it's, it's less like,
they've looked through my phone more like we were driving at one point. And she had to go through my phone to get something. That's, that's the first time I get her the phone. I'm not going to get one. I'm not going to get one.
David's right after you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
“I think David's saying like an accusatory.”
Like, I need to look through your phone. Then that's the first time.
And I know the problem is, look worse.
What? But your print is a principle. It's a principle. I mean, it does make you look worse. look worse. They'll make you look great and then bad when they look through it and the thing they're
accusing you of just not happen. Yeah, makes them look bad. That's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. That's tough. I am very thankful. I've also never been in the scenario. It's an interesting mind. Okay, what about a scenario we've all been in? What I'd be the asshole. Taking a bath. What I'd be the asshole for confronting my friend for sending me too many reels per day. Okay, so I'm making this joke. But for a while, I definitely was that asshole to Ellis. I said in
so many reals. I think it was because when I first deleted TikTok, one of the first reels I probably ever sent to Ellis was probably some insane food one and then Instagram was like, I got you. I'm only going to send you really weird memes about like me and cigarettes and like creed. And I was like, I have to send every one of these to Ellis. And then after a while, he stopped responding and I was like, I should get off Instagram. He's actually I'm 12, but spiritually I am like a divorce dad.
You know, like creed cigarettes and meat, baby. Like it does seem like I don't know if this was in our interview with Adam Assyria, but like when he said before that like the share button is one of the strongest signals in Instagram reels. It really feels like when I share real with someone Instagram goes, I got a lot more of that. And if I sent something then it starts sending me more of the thing that I sent to someone, hoping that it'll send it to more people because it's
“something I would share. So I think yeah, probably once you sent that first one, they were like,”
yeah, if you flip out on its head, are you the asshole for never liking the reels that someone
just keeps sending you? I just like, scenes on it. Here's what I think. I think we have pretty big. I would say like you got a there's a, there's a little given take on both of these. Like clearly if people are sending reals to each other, they think it's funny and are genuinely thinking about them. But if you're sending five or six and not getting a response back, maybe you got to tighten up the parameters of a shareworthy reel and then make them hate home. Maybe you're not there
for the 100% engagement rate. Maybe you're just there for the open rate. Quantity over quality. What if they're all the real thing? Waveform has 300 episodes. There's probably like seven good ones. We're proof. Here's something that's crazy to me is that there are not like DM group. Like there's group chats. But there's not like DM lists, right? Where you see a real you hit send, you can send it to a list and it individually sends it to all those people. Right. And yet,
I have it in acquaintance from college that I had like a class with. We have not spoken in a really long time. And he still sends me reals. And I have not answered in six years. This is payback because you won't be on his find my friends. I'm just like so he has to find my name and send it to me and like we haven't spoken in six years. But every time he sees a real and he's like and Dave is going to like this one. How do you even know who I am at this point? We're pretty different
People.
because I appreciate thinking of me. I think it's either. I start feeling bad when I, but the question is, are you the asshole for confronting them? No, no, no. Oh, you're just going to be hey, man. What's confronting? Is it like, hey, man, stop sending me those reals. Or is it like, I'm sorry, dude, I just don't have time. Whatever it means to you, whatever it is in your heart, not the asshole. I think a confrontation in this competition is mean. It is sort of, but I think
I, I, I probably, and I guess this does make it the asshole move, but I feel like in that situation,
“I probably would be like, dude, that's it. That's what you're saying. What are you doing?”
Here's the thing. If they, if they keep sending them and don't get responses back and they keep sending
them, they don't, they obviously don't care. So like, yeah, I'm not hurting anyone if it's all I have to do is then click red every time. If they sent you a bunch of reals, and you didn't respond. And every time you, and we're like, hey, man, you didn't answer my reals. That's the weird one. Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. But if they keep sending it, even when you don't, even when you just scenes on them, they've, they've a clip's shame already. They're just going to keep doing it.
Yeah. They just want to send you real. Yeah. That's why I think for most people, the act of consuming reals is so brainless that also like, sharing them is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like two taps. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which actually, you know, the, you're right. We're kind of like, it literally is designed to just be like, pepped up, and then like, sure, the real. That's funny that that's the most powerful signal on on Instagram. Like, it's because it's social. Well,
but that's because reals is so little brain power that those two taps is 800 times more engagement than anything else you would do scrolling and liking. Yeah. I'll toss a like to a random real.
“But if I, if I thought it was funny and specifically, that's why they start surfacing more. It's”
because I, I engage two layers deep with this real. I liked it so much that I thought of a person who would also like it and I sent it to them and then that person's going to watch it. That's a pretty good signal. Yeah. So I got 30 more of those reals here. Yeah. All right. Let's do it. Let's do a few more. Yeah. Let me wrap it up. This first one. Am I the asshole for making my friends guess whether a given G fuel flavor is real or not more than once? I think for us, no, for Verge Cassie. Yes.
Yeah. Dancing for it was not happy with us. He's still this looked near. Okay. Guys, would I be the asshole? Little switching it up. What would I be the asshole for using chat GPT to write someone a birthday card? Yes. Yes. No. Whoa. Not by default. Not by default. Explain. However, how would you make it not an asshole move? So writing someone a birthday card is already a very high effort thing to do. Not a lot of people get birthday cards.
So if you're going through the effort to not just like text a map of birthday or write on the Facebook wall, because Facebook told you those are birthday, you're mailing them a card. That's
already eclips the threshold of effort to not be an asshole. And if they never know that you used
AI assistance in this then you just made it more of the asshole. They're not just my best friend. You're my best best friend. I assume you're using AI not because you have zero thoughts on how to write a happy birthday card. You're probably looking for a little extra fun or like a rhyme scheme or for something extra to make it a good car. I feel like you're using AI because it's too much effort. It's too much effort but you're writing and mailing them a card already. Yeah. I think you're trying
to take it to the next level with some AI assistance. Well my thing is if you're already doing it, just do it. Like if you're going through the effort to get the letter and mail it out like just write the letter them. I think it's potentially true that adding AI assistance made it more work
“and made it better. Okay, here's it. Here's an asterisk. How much time would you have to spend”
conversing with this L-L-M about the nature of your friendship with this person? That's a good for you no longer to be the impersonal asshole. Yeah, it's like what part of the letter are you getting help with? Because I don't know what the letter is. It could like, it's a letter like, oh this person is like my one of my friends and my fantasy basketball group and like I'm mailing them a card because I'm whipping him this week and I thought it'd be hilarious if we got a card. Help
them write something that's like funny and relates to basketball. Like you're going the extra mile to mail them a specific card and you're gonna get a few things to your brain. I would say let's say
never know if it was a part kit. Markets is examples. Don't seem that bad. I just like just not
willing to default 100% like the guy in the woods with the speaker. This is a podcast talking about rhetoric. We're supposed to default 100% on something. I think you can use AI to help write someone
A birthday card and mail it to them in a very high effort way that does not m...
So I'm not going to go 100% on that. Are you writing with your hands? Yeah, you're going through all that mailing effort. But you got you got to touch your BT to give you like a like a high-coo scheme. So you could be better at making a high-coo. Yeah, when I was a child I would get rationally angry and I would still get a rationally angry at like when some random family
member that I never spoke to on my birthday would send me a birthday card that was literally just the
card that they bought at Walgreens. Yeah, that's more like I understand there's ever involved here. But like you're melee and so hard. Yeah, you're melee and your feelings and you're you're just trippy. Literally melee. You're you were like outsourcing your brain and your feelings to some Walgreens writer. That's a great point. What's worse? It's not that different. Though be all Greens written one that's definitely impersonal. Well, with the I use AI to make it. I think Walgreens
is worse. I think a pre-written card from Walgreens is worse to be honest. Because it is copied.
“It's generic. You know that other people got the same card too. Yeah. That's what makes it. At least for”
the LLM you're giving it context. Yeah. I'm just, do you guys send cards? We don't write anything else in the news. Sometimes I get them. Yeah. I've gotten that's crazy. I think those, that's cool. Like they'll just sign, they'll just sign their analysis. Yeah, this is a principle. What? This is like, yeah, Mark has your right. Like me. Yeah, I see we're coming from. Mark has this thing makes it sound like I'm trying to be creative in a way. I'm not creative and I want to put the extra effort in,
which I don't think is the, the, like when we're talking about this specific put, and my the asshole, it's like, I don't have, I want to make it look like I have it. I want to trick them. You did in one point say, if they don't know it's AI, what's it better? That was kind of an asshole move. I guess in the case of the hallmark card where it's pre-written, you know it's pre-written so you know that there is zero effort. In the case of like the handwritten letter, you don't know how much
effort there was. Maybe this person's really clever and wrote a clever thing or maybe they had to help. I don't know. A central plot point of the movie her is that the titular character, titular character, the guy her. The name character. The name guy. The her guy. The Joaquin Phoenix looking guy. Yeah. Yeah. He is a, he is literally running card writer. Yeah, he's a greeting card writer. That's his job is he writes greeting cards for rich people who don't have time. I guess you knew a guy. Why
would he have to do that? What we have a person who sort of moonlight writes for PR statements for
like CEOs. Oh, never mind. I thought it was personal writing. Mr. D. It's also a greeting card writer.
“Yeah, the asshole for liking old Adam Sandler. Oh, yes. Oh, oh. Also, I think the effort ladder,”
like the effort ladder is you wrote it completely yourself. So highest, you wrote it with the help of an M L L M L L M with all the context of the person right below it. You wrote it just with the M L L L L L M with no context at all and didn't edit it at all and didn't edit it at all. And then hallmark card was on the bottom of low stuff. Yeah. Even even lower below that is just a text. I think when you're getting to the point of now a text is not free written by somebody else. So it's actually
higher than hallmark. Oh, interesting. That's interesting. You had to use your own brain to do it. I just think that at the the threshold of I'm buying a card for you to put in an envelope and write your name and address on it, mailing it to you to arrive around your birthday is already a lot of if I know it's effort, but it's, but it's like it's more of a formality. It's like when your mom says
we have to do this and you say, why? And they said, because we've always done it that way. Like you're
“not using any of your own, you know, I think call your home for a good thought. Call your home.”
He's been call them on their birthday. Yeah, I'm just calling. Please never. Please don't call me. I guess I'm calling you. We should all do it. So yeah, I mean, I might ask a little don't ever call it. Please. There's a, there's a new AI for that. Bro, we get open cloud to call your home. He's on their birthday. Oh, okay. This is a good one ended on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yes or no, are you an asshole if you just cold call someone in the middle of the day? Yeah. Well, no, no, no. It's your birthday. Your home is calling
you for your birthday. No. Yes. Oh, for your birthday in the afternoon, they're calling you right now. If it's your birthday, no, but if it's your regular Tuesday, don't call me. What? Let's? No, I totally disagree, especially because we all have caller ID and if you the person doesn't want to pick up, y'all don't have to pick up. No, because if you don't pick up, you don't want to talk to me. If you never call me and now you're calling me a three o'clock on a Tuesday, I think something's wrong. I'm picking
up. Yeah. You pick up you freak out and then I say, how's it going? How's it going, man? But what? But like, what did you call me? I like getting called out of the blue by friends that I don't
Talk to that often.
dude, I'm not free right now, but we should catch up. It's just catching up. Give me an out.
“Send me a text. Hey, can I call you there? Let me say nothing. I need to mentally prepare for”
a conversation. Yeah. I can't just pick up the phone and start talking. After the last three answers, I'm convinced Mark has just the guy bringing his X-Boxy button. I don't want to talk to you
right now. I'd rather start a screen. Yeah. As someone who gets like 300 emails a day, I guess.
Sarah calling me is like, it's got to be a certain urgency level. I just want to say I'm proud of
“you guys during the course that I called all three of you because I thought it would be really”
funny. And you guys are all either on the internet or do you not deserve it. I don't think I might
know any of those things. Well, I am watching the Olympics. I am watching TV, I say,
people like quarterfinals right now. I'm on the asshole. I'm on a podcast with you, but I'm also watching the game. Is that cool? Is that fine? Listen, I've been waiting 14 years for
“the Olympics and then NHL. Sorry. Yeah, this is my message. I've been waiting 14 years”
for my news treatment in a festival. I dropped into the pod. I'd have my earphones. There you go. Guys, you didn't have excellent jobs. You kidding this? It seems like the only two things you can do and not be an asshole in your eyes are everyone's socks are ask your family to take their old photos off of eye cloud. And if you're paying for it, switch to Android. Hey, let us know in the comments if you agree or disagree with any of our or maybe present some more and then we'll do
another episode because this is actually really fun and I want to know whether situations you guys have that we can agree with or disagree with. So AIT AIT AIT A. Yeah, hit us up. And you can officially bring your children back in the room. Yeah, we're back. We're back. We're going to sense stuff from here on out. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. See you guys soon. Such a ship is coming. Way from as produced by **** and Adam Malena. Wait, from as produced by Adam Malena,
let's have an apartment box meet up. I guess now we're going to try out your music as pretty but I mean, so bingo bingo bingo. Go. Why didn't there so many chickens? How do they get here?

