Samsung Galaxy Unpacked: No Peeking!

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Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform podcast. We're a host. I'm Markets. I'm Andrew. I'm David.

It is Friday again, just so you know. So those of you who watched the last episode, if you didn't, it wasn't a Friday. But now we're back to our regular schedule programming. I know how everyone else feels, because it's actually Wednesday here. And you just said it's Friday.

So for us, that's very confusing. Right. Yeah, this is just a lock is back in. So people listening, what day it's coming out? The dishes we're going to be getting done anyway.

Today's episode. We've got Samsung Galaxy S26 official unveil. We've got nothing phone for a partial official unveil. And we've got some weather talk.

But first, there was a blizzard.

Yeah, but first. But we're doing South by Southwest again. It's happening again. So for those of you who don't know, or if you're new here last year, we did our first ever live Waveform podcast in front of a in-person studio audience.

We did it at South by Southwest in Austin, Texas in the spring. And it was a lot of fun. And we got invited back to do it again. And we're going to do it again. So if those of you who are like on the fence about going to South by, or if you're

already going to be there, we'll see you there.

“Well, we'll try to put the official, do we know the time slots?”

Yeah. Friday, March 13th, 10 a.m. Voxage. We're doing this on Friday. There's two Friday that 13ths in a row.

There's one in February and March. That's good luck, right? Yeah. For double negative. Yeah.

Yeah. So, okay.

So the second Friday of 13th and row.

We're going to be on stage at 10 a.m. in Texas, on the stage, doing podcast things. Come say hi. Yeah. Ellis will run up and down the aisles again. And it will be beautiful.

And I'll try. That's the one thing I know to be true. It is that Ellis will be running up and down the aisles. That's right. It was genuinely, really fun last time.

I'm engaging with you guys. We had a Q&A section. We had some more engaging back and forth with people in the audience. It was fun. So, we're going to do some of that again.

Yeah. Really fun. All right. We have a new, did they even test this? I hear it's Adam's turn.

I don't want to say anything. I don't want to say anything. Okay. Finally. I have been waiting for this moment.

Wow. So on WhatsApp, I use, I have a group chat with my friends and we send each other. Any voice messages, because we have long updates. So every once in a while, you'll just see like a 10 minute message. And it's like, all right, like next time I'm commuting home or on a subway and I have like

10 minutes, I'll just, you know, just listen to the short little podcast. Wow. So, I'll press play. And then it'll just like pause randomly when I put the phone back in my pocket. So for the longest time, I have to press play on the voice message and make sure that

it's still on the message before I put the screen to sleep. And then I can put the phone in my pocket. And I thought this was a pixel or an Android bug.

“Turns out I think it's just a pixel bug.”

Because the other day, I was using the S25 Edge, I borrowed from the office just to play around. And I was leaving a voice, or listening to a voice message as usual, and fully expecting to have to do this like weird thing where I put the screen to sleep before I put it in my pocket because the proximity sensor like messes up what it thinks is happening

and everything. And it just worked perfectly on the S25 Edge. So I think this is a pixel issue specifically where like flipped a hush.

I think that's what the sensor just gets messed up.

And even if I'm wearing headphones, it'll just like stop playing or it'll start playing through like the earpiece of the phone instead of like, oh, it's very, very annoying. It's very weird. So it doesn't just stop it, just place through another source. It plays through another source.

It thinks that. Yeah. Weirder than just weird. That's weird. That's weird.

Like, I'll press play, put the phone on my pocket, and instead of playing through my headphones, like it normally just was, it'll start coming out of the earpiece on the phone. Hmm. Very weird.

So I'm just wondering if they even tested this while they probably didn't test on a pixel. Yeah. What's up? What's the message is on the pixel? Yeah.

I don't know who's fault this is. Pixel Android what's up. There's many people in it. I'm happy to blame meta. Yeah.

You want to just, that's true. I was like deep in the forums, and everyone was like, this is the only hack that works, and this has been happening for months. Wow. That like leave it on the screen where the message is playing, put the screen to sleep,

and then when you put in your pocket, the proximity sensor won't mess up.

“What do you think most people blame in a scenario like this, that maker, that maker, right?”

Yeah. Probably the app maker. I think that's true. So like the app maker kind of has to fix the issues, even if it's potentially from a different phone, because they're going to be the ones.

Yeah. Things issue are like a feature of the phone and people are smart enough to blame the phone maker, but if it's just an app maker, that's easy to just be like, fix your app. What's up with that?

Crazy. All right. What's up? If you're listening, fix it. Yeah.

Adam. How about Slack issue fix itself yet? What's up is a meta product. I thought it was randomly breaking. It was like, well, you're broke.

I mean, for any, every other reason as well, but yeah, it's a meta product. So now we have two on the board. The Slack thing is not fixed. I see. No.

People said they liked the segment. No one said they had the same issue of the Slack. So I'm really wondering if it's, it feels like just, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I also had the same thing.

Yeah.

“Well, remember, last time I did this, and I was like, oh, I have this thing that”

unlocks my front door, and it's crazy that they don't have a widget. And then the next week, they were like, David, we made you a widget. And now it's a feature. And I'm like, well, I can't complain anymore, I guess. I don't have anything else.

There was one person who commented, I'm starting my Slack internship this summer.

This is the first thing I'll bring up.

Yes. So, thanks, summer projects, fixing that icon. Yeah. Sick. All right.

Well, we did get a new Samsung Galaxy S26s, and for video viewers, you can see I'm holding the S26 Ultra. You might not have been able to tell that it's an S26 Ultra, because it looks exactly like an S25 plus, but I promise is the Ultra. It's the new Violet Color.

It's Violet. Yeah. It had like a two-word name. It'd have to like glue to me. Something Violet.

Cobalt. Cobalt. Violet. One of the new. What?

Shiny colors. Violet. You're turning Violet. Two colors now? Yeah.

Cobalt. Anyway. Yeah. So, we know all the things now. We all respect all the features of S26, S26 plus, and S26 Ultra, quick story.

I get to go to the event. Yeah. So, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Maybe a little inside baseball, but for those of you who are also tech YouTubers, you

know about this. So, Samsung, when they're coming out with a new phone, for example, will first reach out to all of the tech media, whoever it is, and go, "Hey, we've got something to share with you. We have a briefing slot for you, and we have a content capture slot for you in this nearby

city." And, you know, we kind of have read the rumors we've deduced. We kind of figure out what it is. And we'll go, "Oh, okay. Yeah.

This is going to be S25." And we'll go, "Okay. We go on the briefing. They'll explain all the features and specs and price, and we can answer any questions. And then we'll go to a content capture session so if you're a video creator or a social

media creator, whatever it is, you have time to get hands on and make your video."

“And that's what you'll see all the YouTubers publish at embargo time or when the official”

announcement goes out, right? They've had one in New York many times. They've had one I'm assuming in California many times. I think there's usually one in London somewhere, many times, so that creators from all of the world can just sort of fly to these local places.

And then lastly, they'll have unpacked and then unpacked as their big event where they'll do the whole unveiling for everyone else in public to see.

And they always ask us to go to unpacked, but I don't know, by the time I've made my video,

there's nothing really more for me to see it unpacked, so I typically don't actually go to unpacked. That also, that always hasn't been the case of the briefing right before. And then it's weird that the embargo coming out at the same time is the event. So our video is totally made by the time the event comes, so it's like what else is

there for? Yeah. Yeah. That always hasn't been the case. But that has been lately.

I've gone to unpacked a few times and been like sitting in the audience waiting for the event to start and published my video from the seat at the event, which is like, that's, they've done it over like that, like the same time. So, but lately they've just been like, please come unpacked and, but also, here's all the stuff ahead of time, so maybe you don't have to go to that unpacked.

This year they're like, yeah, there's no content capture sessions anywhere.

That's it. All right. I guess I'm going to unpack this year. It's in California. And then we get two feet of snow and it shuts down two straight days of flights and I've

booked and rebooked and rebooked and rebooked and had two straight days of flights canceled. And I just literally couldn't go. Brandon did go because he flew out of a less snowy city and he was actually able to get there. So he shot a bunch of footage out there while I got the footage back here.

I got my briefing still, I got to combine all of my information and the footage and so I've seen the phones and I make the video and the video still goes live at the usual time.

But yeah, that's sort of backfired where Sam's I'm like finally got me to go to unpacked

and then the blizzard was like, no, I'm not going to have to.

“Can you tell the story of the phone arriving this morning?”

Oh, yeah. And you know, unpacked you also are supposed to, you know, pick up the review device so I can make my review and since I'm not there, I said Sam's like, can you ship it to the studio? I said sure.

Yeah, we'll ship it to the studio. It'll arrive on Wednesday, which is today. So I'm editing this video this morning of the, you know, Brandon's footage and putting this whole video together and I got like a knock on the door and the door slides open on the studio and there's a guy standing out of breath holding a huge pink bag in his hand,

like, this is you and he's points at the bag and it's got a label on it and I'm like, what? I assume this is not for me. He's got to have the wrong address, but I go, yeah, can I, like, maybe help you find the right place and I look and sure enough, it is our address.

It says, empty VHD, it says are sweet and everything and I go, oh, okay, yeah, no, this is for me.

So I signed for it and he goes, sign for your name and I signed it for my name and then he

dipped and that was it and I opened the huge pink box and there's a smaller UPS box inside. I opened that box and it's the Samsung Galaxy S26. Well, see out of breath because it was like by 10 a.m. I use out of breath because he was like a career, like a local service career.

“So maybe he was like stress in trying to get it here on time or something.”

Maybe he had a deadline, but he definitely was out of breath. He uses shorts and a t-shirt and boots. There's a lot of snow outside. It felt like he ran here. He probably sprinted through mounds of snow to get here on time.

I don't, it kicks out of it. Yeah. Also, I don't think you're understanding how big the pink bag was. Letting him. It was like, it was like four feet tall.

Yeah. It's like this huge zip around the middle of it. So it's really didn't even have any sense. Yeah, it sounds like we can take a picture of it in the pot. It's different.

It made no sense. I was like, this cannot possibly be for me. It's him and I were getting water in the lobby and saw him walk in and I was like, what is going on? And then we walked back and he's in the office.

So just for the phone and the buds. Yep, just for the phone. Just the phone. That's crazy. Yeah.

But yeah, now we have it here. So shout out to that guy. Because now we have the phone and we can talk about it in person. And I want to issue my disappointment to Samsung. Whoa.

Okay. Is this for all the phones? No, just for the ultra. They've just slowly made the ultra look just more and more like the plus. And you know, I understand that when it was like really sharp edges, maybe that was like

not the best for your pockets, I get that. But I feel like the more aggressive design was very much like it's ultra. It's the ultra. The S21 Ultra is the best design of all of them. I'm just going to put that out there.

So I'll just run through real quick so people know what's new or different about this ultra. Because you're totally right. And I have a lot of the same thoughts. Yeah.

First of all, they slightly changed the design.

It's a tiny bit thinner. It's a tiny bit more rounded so it's a little bit less square. It's a little more rounded. They updated the camera rings to now also have this like plateau around them, kind of like the rest of the S series line up.

And they switched back from titanium to aluminum rails, whatever ones do. Everyone's like, oh, it's bad. I don't think other phones have had that plateau. The base. Oh, the phones.

Sorry. I'm not the base phone. No, the folds have had to. Yes. And now the whole lineup has this.

So now they all look the same as as David was saying. And yeah, they're like a couple new colors and they're still $1,300. Still has the S-pans still has the bright screen on the front. And the one big interesting new feature is on the display, which is kind of insanely complicated. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they did this.

But it's the privacy privacy display feature, which is, okay, video viewers are going to see this in person. You can clearly see like the viewing angles of the screen are pretty good, normally. So you see those like privacy screen protectors, people put on their phones sometimes where if you put it at an angle, it's pitch black.

Those are kind of annoying because they like ruin your screen usually.

“And also you have to take it off if you get annoyed by it.”

This is built into the phone. You can turn on privacy display. And now when I tilt it off access, it blacks out the phone.

And not only is it very effective, but you can customize exactly how it works.

So you can have a black out the whole display, or you can have it only black out certain apps. You can choose those apps, or you can only have it black out password fields and notifications if you want. It's very specific to, can I do the password fields?

I swear I remember them showing a thing for that, but I don't remember them showing it in the event. So password fields. It says pin pattern and password, that's just lock screen and settings and secure folder. Okay, so it's not a bunch of other apps, but if you just black out your whole banking

“app, that's probably what you should do that.”

So yeah, that it seems to work incredibly well. It only dims the display a little bit when I turn it on, that's really good. Yeah, it seems like they're doing it by directing the light only directly up out of the screen instead of looking at kind of a myth. Almost like a pair of washers over each individual picture.

That like goes higher to narrow the width of the light. Yeah. Which is really cool.

I want to see, you probably can't see it up close because think of that on every single

pixel and that you can turn it on and off. Yeah, cool. Well, yeah, I guess so then they come back down all the way to the bottom, so it doesn't interrupt the width of the light emitting. So it raises, but the little animation they showed was like, oh, there's just everyone's

got an animation for everything, like the Fort Knox animations eight on two times. Like this means nothing for this. I was watching. I was like, oh, wait, that's really, really cool. Yeah.

Yeah. And I wish I could see the mechanical aspect of it. Yeah, it seems to be hardware, right? It's hardware. It's the display innovation.

“When you turn it on, do you feel like something moving inside?”

Like how does that do that? No. So essentially Samson. Samson. I was waiting to see the how they explained in the keynote because my briefing didn't have

a lot of technical information on how exactly they're achieving this, but the way they seem to describe it in the keynote is they have half of the pixels are regular wide emitting light pixels and half of the pixels have this sort of a focusing hardware on them. I don't know if it's hardware at lenses or whatever, where they are very narrow emitting just forward.

And so when you've turned this feature on, all of the wide emitting pixels turn off because it's an OLED and you're just left with the narrow emitting pixels. So it's not all pixels that have this like screen over it. Right. It's just the random half of them.

Got it. And so if you have those just those narrow emitting pixels on, I assumed I would see a big hit to screen brightness. And I'm sure maximum brightness is lower, but it still looks totally fine when I look straight at it.

And yeah, then you can customize like which pixels turn on and off. If you have a notification come in, you can just turn those narrow pixels on and I'll leave the rest as wide emitting pixels. Does that mean your resolution is worse when it's on? Yes.

I didn't think of. So half your pixels are off. So half your resolution is gone. And all of them are on when it's when the privacy protector is off. Correct.

So it's using the narrow and the wide ones normally. Yeah. That's really cool. I guess if you're somebody who really wants just privacy on some things, then you don't really know what cares if they have 4K Bank of America app open.

I guess. But yeah. I mean, I do lose. I wonder what the resolution is just. So the resolution is the same.

It's still a 1440p display when it's maxed out. So yeah, it's your favorite half. Yeah. Half your pixel density is gone. And I mean, I'm looking at it like really up close because I maxed out the screen resolution

right away. And I turn it on. And yes, it does get a little bit more pixelated from this angle is crazy because I saw you look at it. And then when you turn that on, it just went blacked out.

That's hilarious. Perfect angle. Yeah. I don't mind that resolution lost for that feature.

“You should show LSD because I think he missed that part of the event where like a notification”

comes up and just the notification is like black. You did see it. That's cool. That's like one of the cooler demos I've seen in a while. I.

Yeah. I mean, they used a lot of the keynote talking about that for sure.

It was the first thing that they talked about during the keynote.

So to Samsung's credit and they've done like a bunch of crazy display innovations in the past. They've done the note. They've done the galaxy mega. They've done the galaxy round. They've done the trifle, the regular fold.

They've done a lot of crazy screen stuff. So this is right up Samsung's alley. But also to your point David, the rest of this phone feels less unique than ever before. Yeah, for sure. And I think my review.

I feel like I have to say feels less like an ultra than ever before. Yeah. It does have a S Pen. But it's kind of just like a way the Bluetooth in the S Pen. It's like a bigger S 26 plus.

I think the David's point, like the box your display. Like it's still all kind of felt like a note to us, right? Like it felt like it was just released at the same time. And they called it ultra. Now this just feels like an S 26 lineup.

Yeah. Plus plus or.

Point my theory is like last year for Q1225 of all the Samsung folds of all the Samsung phones sold. The S25 was the third highest selling with the two before it being the cheap phones. Okay, as you go, phones, which sell crazy amount.

“And so I think that they probably just want to make the ultra more appealable to more people and seem less aggressive.”

So that more people are like content with it. It's really interesting. Because everyone in the United States, this is a number not everyone in the United States, but a large chunk of the United States just buys phones through carriers anyway on carrier plans. Yep.

And so most of these companies are selling the most expensive phone to the most people. So at least the United States. The iPhone 16 apparently did sell more than the 16 Pro Max in the Q1225.

But the Pro Max is always near the top.

Yep. So I don't know. I'm assuming they're just trying to sort of like make it a little more simple. So it appeals to more people. Well, you know, they also narrowed the difference in price between the base phone and the Max or the ultra.

This is. Yeah. Did they release the storage? So they did. So did.

Because I've ended this too. Yeah. So last year. S 25. Not with 799.

Right. Yeah. Sorry. I got confused. I think this. They technically the S 25 is the same price without the 128 gig option. Which is exactly. They keep doing this.

But it didn't add a third company to do this. Apple's this was the same price as the year before. But you just got storage. The more storage. That's what Samsung should have done.

Yes.

“Samsung just took away a cheaper option.”

Yeah.

And kind of like played it off.

It's like, well, you get more storage. It's like, yeah, but you could have gotten that same phone for the same price. Yeah. So there is no storage. It's crazy.

It's like out the cost of a. So there is no 128 gig version of the of the S 26 at all. It starts at 256 gigs. Okay. And that phone is is nine is eight is nine hundred dollars.

Eight ninety nine for the regular one regular S 26. Whoa. That's garbage. So then it's 256 gig. 1100 for the S 26 plus.

No way. 1100. And then it's 1300 for the ultra. That's crazy. So yeah, they've they're all expensive phones.

And when you look at what other phone companies are calling ultra with these crazy fast charging, like silicon carbon batteries and these massive display and a camera arrangements, like all these insane features that they're doing. This doesn't feel as much like an ultra phone like the way those do. Yeah.

This is, you know, they're really trying to sell the ultra. Because when you go to Samsung.com and you go to shop,

it just lists Galaxy S 26 ultra.

And then from there, when you go to that page, you can you can pick Galaxy S 20. Oh, it's with and it's like a tab on the top that's entirely easy to miss. It's like you're going to buy the ultra.

“Wait, does the do the regular ones come with the privacy screen or is that an ultra feature?”

Ultra. It's only ultra. So that my phone. 26. 26 plus is.

They're the same phone. It's the same. They're kind of terrible deals compared to like the pixel and the iPhone. And they those phones really didn't change much. Like I think the bait, the battery went from 4,000 to 4 300 on the base.

Otherwise it's like same phones, same cameras, slightly different design, mostly everything else. The most boring looking phone I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, good. It's a generic standard phone.

It's obviously not even a. It's not pixel isn't even a better deal. Because pixel 10's 800, but that's at 128. Inside there are two. So 256.

You're at the same price. Yeah. You're at the S 26 standard edition or you're at the tri fold. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. This is the ultra. All you need it's all you need to do. If the S 26 ultra comes out with the privacy screen, she too.

Ten like a silicon carbon battery. It's like phone. Well. Right. That's true.

What an actual upgrade. Instead they're allowed. Hello. Hey. Here's a pretty cool thing.

Let's give you that nothing else. And just yeah. About AI slot for a while. Didn't you say they would have. You thought it would have magnets.

I do have to issue an apology. It's all over listeners. We thought it would have. We strive for accuracy at this podcast. That was a prediction.

I gave you a very confident fake news. And I apologize. Yeah. But next year. We got it next year.

Because we all said it wasn't going to have me. Well, my uncle works as Samsung. And he's so the next year that helped you. Yeah. But he's going to call when you have you.

Yeah. Bigs. Bigs. Bigs. Bigs.

Bigs. Bigs. Bigs. Bigs. Bigs.

Yeah. Speaking of bigs. You know, a lot of the other features that they talked about with these phones. And that are new are software. So a bunch of AI stuff, a bunch of bigs.

Be a bunch of integrations. Gemina here. Proplexly there. A little bit. You know, there's a new.

The new bigs. Technically, technically, LLM power to use to be a small language model. Now, it's a large language model. Oh. So I want to be trying out this.

The bigs. So yeah. I'll see how that goes. But yes. It can be.

They managed to import or build their own versions of a lot of the same features that have made pixel phones, the pixel phones. Like they have cost screening now.

But they have like that. They have got it. You know, it's not just something. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Which is essentially magic cue, which is both meaningless things to say out loud.

But it's basically built into the keyboard.

We'll give you suggestions of things to type based on the context of the conversation you're having. When they announced that, I was like, I thought that for 50 years. I was like, Mark has this. This is that thing Google has and both was like, I can't remember the name of it. You looked it up.

“And then I went, I honestly don't know if that's working on my phone.”

Because either I just don't use it and skip by it all the time. Because it's so useless or it literally doesn't work. I could not work. I couldn't tell you which one it was. Yeah.

I hardly use it. It doesn't really work on the pixel. It's supposed to be a fun pixel feature. Yeah. But yeah.

But once for me and it was wrong. [LAUGHTER] Unfortunately. So yeah, maybe now no, it will be a little better. Maybe now. They also have this image playground thing.

I think it's called Creive Studio, where you can make AI generate whatever thing image you want. Like, they had endless AI generated images as features. Okay. Basically. What did I think?

Allison Johnson posted a article that was like,

"It's Samsung is on Slop Watch for Unpacked 2020." They call it an AI phone. Yeah. In all caps. Did it call it AIOS?

Yeah. Samsung just invented iOS. It's an iOS. It's an iOS. It's an invented iOS.

It's an iOS. It's an iOS. They're other iOS. Yes. Apple iOS.

Yeah. Your grammar is wrong. Shouldn't mean an AIOS. Yeah. It was tough.

Yeah, it was tough. So obviously, you know, you take it or leave it. Some of that stuff I'm sure will trickle down to older funds as well. But if you're thinking about S26s,

you now know that they're very similar to S25s.

And then the Ultra has this one sick display feature. Chargers at 60 Watts now. And Chargers in. So the whole lineup purges a little faster than before. 25 Watts on the base.

45 Watts on the plus. 60 Watts on the old. I wonder if it's because I remember it.

“This is either the, I think this is the S20 Ultra when they set it”

charged at 45 Watts and it only charged at 45 Watts for like two minutes. This will be similar, I think. It's going to be charging. But I think this stat that's maybe more informative is it's like zero to $10 to 80% and half an hour or something like that, which is decent.

Can I complain about something that's only for us? In the spec sheet that they sent us for your briefing. The way they describe charging is the S26 has super fast charging. S26 plus has super fast charging 2.0. And the S26 Ultra has super fast charging 3.0.

Oh, my God. No, what? It's numbers. No, that's exactly the cost. This is how Apple does it.

It just gives you this bad branding without any of the techniques. That same sheet has an option, like it shows all the storage options. And then it says microSD, not available, not available, not available, not available. It's like, why do you like it? I'm just getting like that.

Just get rid of that column guys. Yeah. It looks like going to bring it back. Anyway, um, yeah, it comes in cobalt violet, which I don't know. That's my, that's my favorite Microsoft product.

Cobalt. Microsoft. Cobalt violet. Oh, co-pilot. I was going to say do a leap ahead.

I didn't get it. I did. Thank you for spelling it out. I didn't.

“You could have saved out of the podcast.”

Hey, man. You had a lot of bangers last week. You can't win them all. Okay. Sky blue, which I did like that color.

Black and white did not like those colors. No. Black is the one. Is. Silver shadow.

What do I mean? Wait, that's like gray. And pink gold. Also exclusive. It's not rose gold.

No rose gold. That's. Yeah, fair. That is not going to see. Oh, I just forgot.

How can I forget slightly wider apertures in the ultra's primary and telephoto cameras. Never mind them all in. How could I forget? Yeah, they do have like an action mode now that they had that like straight out of the horizon. And that Becca did like a short on it and it actually did look very good.

She was able to like rotate the camera like this and the image stayed like exactly the same. It like did not move. It's clever. It's similar to what Apple did with the Sophie camera on the iPhone. Where if you are recording a small enough section of that rectangular sensor, then you can fully stabilize the center portion.

A whole thing based on whatever the orientation is. Yeah, I'm just explaining that poorly. But it's clever and uses the hardware. Well, Mark has we are locked in because I was about to bring that up because I was so mad that they did not steal that from Apple. Yeah.

The square sensor. Yeah, like why not? I was just hype in this feature up yesterday to just because she was asking me how that selfie feature worked. And I was like, it's so good. I can't wait for everyone to steal it.

There's actually an event tomorrow that maybe we'll see what the answer and nope. Yeah, no stealing. So they didn't do it with the selfie camera. But that one feature of like super super stabilization horizontal lock allows you to like literally flip your phone upside down.

Yeah. Which is cool. Well, that's boring.

So Samsung phones were you?

“We should, should we do the nothing from before we take it to break or should we do it after the break?”

Let's stay for after the break. Okay. Yeah. But you know, we should do before the break. The MacBook.

Trivia. Okay. Little teaser there. Head fake. The MacBook.

There's a new, I'm going to talk about the MacBook. What's later? Why is that not in the, in the outline? It is. I have nothing about this MacBook.

Hmm. You've nothing. All right. Well, the question. I was hit it.

Were you paying attention to the most boring keynote all the time? You guys were not paying attention to this whole keynote could have been a press release. But at the end of it, they showed off an expert raw mode feature that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and fish and stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean. What is it called? And actually, this feature is not new.

Apparently, I was looking it up. It was released in S24 Ultra, which is funny. Just brought it up again. I just brought it up again. I think I remember what they call it.

That's the company's favorite things to do is to reintroduce a feature as if you're hearing it for the first time.

Yeah. They do that a lot. There's so many times when we're writing scripts on stuff like that. I have to just go back and check things again and be like, I know in the briefing. They just like claim.

They did it. Like this re-slides. I mean, they showed circle to size. I was guessing this one event. This is the 40th time they've showed circle to search.

I swear. Yeah. All right. Cool. I think I remember.

We'll think about it. I swear I was better intention.

“I don't even remember the question out of mass.”

It was even pay attention to this podcast. Right. Which pixel came in coral? Oh, that was three. In the biz, we call that a callback.

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It's funny. That's my bet. I should have done a little bit better. No, it's okay. But nothing found for A got... Well, I think we're going to do it.

I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it. We're going to do it. I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it.

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I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it. I think we're going to do it. I should have made it better.

It's okay. But the nothing found for A got unveiled.

I guess is the word because they always do like several different unveilings.

They showed us the design for the first time. And confirmed exactly one spec because they mentioned the Periscope camera. So for those of you who are on the edge of your seat about what type of telephoto lens that'd be using, confirmed. It's a Periscope camera.

It's a tetraprism lens. Anyway, I think it looks pretty good. It's a desaturated red. Understatement of the century. You guys seem really into the aesthetics.

I think it's really nice looking. It's the best and nothing else. That's the best thing about that. We really.

“Okay, so I think the 2A was probably their best so far.”

I think it looks as good. I don't know. It's like less aggressive than the 2A. Sure. It has de-saturated red.

It's got nice. So yeah, it's got a lot. I guess I'll try to describe it. It's got a lot of the same silver, white, and red aesthetic.

And then it has the glyphs on the top right side, which is just a stack of seven large boxes.

I like this part a lot. I do do seven. The bottom most box is red, and then each one of the boxes above it is white. And so they played with different animations of things. They can indicate whether it's a timer or a notification

where those boxes more than the stack. Recording light is the red one blinking. Cool stuff there. Every phone should have a red blinking recording light.

“That's what I was thinking watching this.”

I was like, this is important. I would feel like everyone needs this. Even harder agree on glasses. The glasses. Every hair of my glasses.

When it's recording should be blinking red. It's crazy. That's not. I think why I like this better than the 2A is. The 2A had the 2 cameras in a little cut out with a big circle around it.

Where this is the longer bar more like a pixel. And the silver lining around it matches. It doesn't have any pixel vibes. It's kind of like nothing x pixel. Yeah.

It's got the beam. That's the beam. It's got that beam. The beam is back. Dual cameras.

Yeah, it looks, it looks good.

It does look good. I think it looks really good. The LEDs, like you said, are awesome. It's a 7 by 1 vertical to the right side of the camera bar. Bottom one is red.

There's some pretty cool ways of like using it. Like if there's a timer on the nothing phone. The 3 went that had this stupid little spin the bottle thing. That would be like sand. That was cool.

That was cool. So this is just like slowly. It'll blink at the top and then slowly fall down to the bottom and stack up as a timer. Yeah. The camera shut.

If you're doing like a camera timer. Yeah. It'll blink. And then when the shutter goes off. Yeah.

Like top and bottom connects like a shutter. Yeah. It's really awesome. I wish. And this is probably not a wish for a.

This is, you know, the A series of the cheaper one. If all of those were different colors. That'd be great.

That would be awesome because then my like we all want with notification LEDs.

My emails are blue. My text messages are green. My whatever like having that. This I think you can do stuff similar. But you're learning like patterns of how the glyph works.

Yeah. Which is harder. Do you guys think this will be cheaper? Because it is the A. But he also made that announcement.

The blog. So I was about to be deeper. Yeah. I don't think it'll be cheaper. He made that big blog.

She pretty weeks ago about how all phones are going to be more expensive this year. So no, no.

“I think it'll be cheaper than like the three.”

The three series. Oh, yeah. Because there will be no four series. But that's also in the A series. Well, they won't be four series this year.

The series, sorry. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. But I mean, he made that big blog post about how all phones

are going to get more expensive. Which has not really. Perman true. Yeah. Do you think it was the three A when it came out?

Which one? Yeah. Damn, you're right. Three A glow in the dark edition. Three.

The three A, the three A live. Three A pro. Three A was 37. What's the three A pro? What's the CFF pro light?

Three A pro launch price was 459. I think it'll be in between those. That's right. That's right. Yeah.

Four like a clean 400. 425. Do you think the launch of four A pro? Yeah. I think if you're not.

Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Well, as if there's no four series. Do you think there's going to be nothing's only a phone launch of the year?

For the year. That's what they said. I feel like I mean unless they do pro. Yeah. I feel like I can also just based on how they've done this in the past.

Like kind of guess the rest of how this phone's going to go. Hmm. Like you can see the triple cameras on the back. Right. It's probably going to be a solid,

Qualcomm mid-range chip. It's probably going to be 120 hertz. OLED. Probably 1080 OLED or something at the front. It's probably going to have this nice, quirky,

nothing OS with a couple new features in there. Maybe some AI stuff. Maybe not. Doesn't seem like they lean in. They have that much.

Anyway, I think. Definitely super, super in like Samsung. But they do have maybe like mine space or a couple things like that. I expect that to happen again. Central space.

And then, oh yeah that. And then yeah, maybe a couple. I mean average speakers probably probably some fun. A vibration motor stuff. Yeah.

I don't think anything else too crazy. Yeah, they do have that like instant app thing now. Or you can describe the app you want. It kind of makes it for you. Whoa.

Right. They have that in the song. Didn't they do that? What? I did I remember that.

But the nothing lineup couldn't be more confusing in my eyes. I'm looking at like their lineup right now. And the 3A, the 3A Pro and the 3A light, are three completely different phones. None of them just look like an offshoot of one of them.

Like if we're talking about how Samsung. You know, the ultra plus and regular all look exactly the same. This is the exact opposite of this. These are three completely different phones. Yeah.

“Fairly recently they released the essential apps,”

which is where you can describe an app or widget. And it will it will make it for you. Apparently it's pretty limited right now.

But I know that some people had played with it. And it was like semi useful for extremely basic things. But for anything, you know, more complicated. It's going to be a few years down the line. Didn't.

I was going to say I could see that making any app in their little dot matrix thing because it'd be the easiest thing possible. But didn't they ditch the dot matrix? Like whole design vibe. From the three.

I just thought like nothing in general is not doing the like. I think they're doing dot matrix anymore. I thought they were still doing that in the software. Like their phones still have dots. Yeah.

But animations and random things still have dots in there. Yeah. Is this right? They changed the logo.

There's a cool essential apps store you can go to now with the essential apps that people

have made where you can try different ones. And it's kind of interesting and fun and cool. I think once this gets better and builds out, it'll be more interesting. But a lot of dots. They'll probably have that a lot of dots.

The probably have that on this fun. I'm sure. You got show. They have a five second rule one.

“So I guess you have to start it once you drop something.”

I'll tell you why then. Wait, start. This is where I get your phone. I'll drop off the floor start the time run your vote. But then it's been like 10 seconds.

Yes. By the time you do that. Yeah. Anyway. Yes.

Pretty simple. Unfortunately today is Wednesday. We were recording on a Wednesday. And tomorrow morning is the time at which everything about this is revealed. So.

No, isn't it next? Isn't it March 5th? Next week, March. No matter the day after that. I'm so proud.

I actually think they're doing this because they saw. Oh, we're a day after Apple stuff. And a week after Samsung stuff. Let's get something in before Samsung. Nothing mag Samsung.

Oh, no.

But they always do this long drip.

Yeah. New feature and new spec. The next tomorrow they'll tell us the processor. And then the next sale of toast with the camera specs are. And then the next sale of toast.

The battery size and the next sale of toast. And materials. And then they just keep going. This is one of the best pieces of content. I've seen nothing put out.

I thought this was informative. Yeah. I love it. The video is great. The video is great.

I learned what a Tetra prism patch. Periscope lens was like did a tenter scale do it. The presenters did really well. I loved the shot at a pink phone just being desaturated red. So it's true.

Yeah, that like true. There are some funny stuff. And the pink.

“I think we opened this up with the pink.”

And then didn't talk about the pink looks. Pink looks really good. Yeah. So good. I want to wait to see it in person true.

Because I have seen pictures and video of it. And it looks amazing.

But that always like it comes out the box and you're like.

Oh, so that's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. So I'm waiting. But I am excited for it. It does look gorgeous.

Yeah. I have to see it in person. Nothing's mostly designed, right? We saw the majority of what we care about of this phone. Just need a price tag now.

That's. Yeah. Yeah. The last thing we'll probably find out. Yes.

It has G2. New. Absolutely. Nothing. I think this transparent phone has G2.

You'd see these. See those coils. Okay. Another quick story that popped up yesterday, which is quite interesting. Recently, later this year, there's going to be a touch screen OLED MacBook Pro with a dynamic

island and redesigned Mac OS controls. So crazy enough, in one week Apple is rumored to release the M5 Pro and M5 Max Mac Pro Pro's, which are really nothing more than just spec upgrades to the current generation of laptops. Yes.

But reportedly, near the end of the year, probably around late October, November, which is when they usually do this kind of stuff, they're going to release this whole new generation of Mac with Pro's with M6 Max and M6 Pro. Yeah. It's a big deal because they're going to be getting rid of this notch, I guess, that you

could say that in the current design of Mac with Pro's, they're going to be having the dynamic island similar to the iPhone. What that says about whether the iPhone is going to have dynamic island for another few years, as opposed to just making it transparent, I'm not sure. But apparently, when you touch different aspects of Mac OS, it is going to expand to

me more touch friendly. So it will be able to be used with both a keyboard and your hands kind of like whenever you want, and it will change a little bit for that reason. Mac OS has been sort of being slowly restructured to be more like iOS and iPad OS in general. They look very similar right now anyway.

“So I think the main things Apple's going to really have to kind of focus on are making sure”

that it doesn't wobble every time you tap it, then maybe also making the screen a little more fingerprint resistant. Quinn at Snazie Labs put out a pretty banger video this morning about maybe why they're doing all of this stuff, and he was talking about like the RAM shortage and everything like that, and they're keeping the prices the same for a lot of these things.

So he was estimating that the reason they're launching a M5 Pro and an M5 Max and the M6 Pro and M6 Max in the same year is so they can create huge product line differentiations, where they still sell the M5 Pro and M5 Max computers. But then the M6 Pro, M6 Max are way more expensive because they have a way better display

So that would be one reason to release two lines of laptops in one year. I see. Yeah. Yeah. I might just be one of those first people that like kind of is along for the ride for the better

specs and better display, even though I don't want a touch screen and I don't wonder what that does the rest of the Mac OS experience, hopefully not too much. I'm kind of, because like Windows right now, you can either get a touch screen or not touch computer and Windows is the same. Yeah.

It sounds like you're saying there's maybe going to be some differences to the touch screen version of the Mac OS potentially. Well, the rumor is that it'll be about the same, but then when you go to touch it, it will sort of like reformat itself on the fly to be more touch. Okay.

So if I never touch the screen, it would just behave exactly the same, maybe as a regular.

Maybe a slightly a slight redesign. I'm sure we're going to see more of this at WDC in June. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm on, so I've said for years, I've never really wanted a touch screen on my laptop.

I've had laptops with a touch screen. I rarely ever touch the screen. Anytime there is the ability to touch the screen, I'm annoyed by how much it wobbles and how many fingerprints stay on the screen and I wish I never touch the screen. So I don't know where you guys on touch screen on the laptop.

I'm sort of in between. I mean, now that we have these enormous track pads, it's less of a problem.

“I don't know if you guys remember, but laptop track pads used to be really small and really”

annoying to use. So now that they're that much bigger, I really do think that they should have just like added Apple Pencil support to the track pad and that would have solved a lot of problems. I will say in Photoshop, it's really nice to be able to like pan and zoom with your fingers. And I used that on my Surface Book 2 back in the day when I had that a lot.

But besides that, I don't need it, you know, I'm not really sure why they're doing it. Maybe just because OLEDs at this point are cheap enough to be able to make them touch capacitive? I don't know.

David, such a good point.

Like all the cool parts of the touch screen experience, which are gestures. You can do on the track pad. It's built in. Yeah. I'll try.

Also, who is it for? Like, I'll be like, no one, if you're buying a MacBook Pro as you're like, kind of up and watch some Netflix on the couch computer, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Dude, chill out. Well, that's what they mean.

And then it's like, I bet. Yeah, exactly. So if you're buying a MacBook Pro, you're attending to do something professional with it. I would assume. You don't have to only do professional things with it though.

If you're spending that much money, it still should be a little function as your curl up and watch a movie MacBook.

“It is going to be thinner to apparently, which scares me.”

If y'all ever sat on the couch like this, hold on. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's go. Okay. Add a foot here.

You know, how hot, like, knees up, you know, on the couch.

Andrew's feet are on the chair, knees up, computer wedged in between. Yeah. Screena and obtuse angle. Look how easy it is to scroll like this. Oh, true.

Oh, because you're. And then by feeling how hard it is to scroll like this. That's crazy. I know that. You true.

I just got proven wrong. That's true. Yeah. You know, I'll just need some more comfy position. So it's because my computer spends probably like 80% of its on time in clamshell mode,

like in a dock. Uh, the other 20% are between my knees and my chest. That's right. That's right. That's true.

If you're like, yeah, being able to just kind of like flick with your thumb, I love it, potting. And I get it. Like this. My thumb's sometimes right here and I'm just like scrolling on the, I know I can scroll

too. Listen, I do it on both, but when I used my surface for a long time, and I got really used to just occasionally like doing this scrolling or like, yeah, I used, and then I come back and not have it. And I'm like, oh, my God, I do that way more than I thought.

Yes, scrolling is not a big deal. If the main place to use the laptop is your desk.

“I think every time I'm on the couch, when I'm on an airplane, when I'm in the”

back seat of a car, scrolling like that in a touch screen is so much nicer. Yeah. I'm gonna have to. It's yes. Yes, obviously.

If I see an on-screen keyboard pop up in my Mac OS experience, that's. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.

That's true. That's true. Yeah. I don't know. I think Apple needs to really some sort of display coding that stops fingerprints.

Yeah. Fingerprints are gonna. That's right. He's saying. We should come out with like a special finger.

Like, what do Quinn do? He has like a cloth. He's like the polishing. Oh, shit. He just launched it.

Like, XXL or something. It's like a bigger version. Yeah. And it's about the lower polishing tower. Polishing clock markets about to go crazy.

Yeah. Oh, true. That's a lot of him. That's smart of him. Think about it.

Corner the market early. So when everyone's touching their computer screens, you know where to clean it. Yeah. I will say touch screen with the kid is awful because I'll just be like, they don't clean their face.

Oh, well, no, no, it's not even that. It's just like every time I have my computer up in lane like runs over and she wants to play with it. And it's easy enough to defend the keyboard with one or. But then it's just, and all my windows are all over the place now.

And I'm just like, oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. It happens to Claire more often because she's using Elanovo. But yeah, it screws that computer up all the time.

When I was teaching what happened to me all the time where a student would be like, can you help me like figure out this ableton thing? And I go and I'd sit down and be like, oh, you just click right here. What have I done? Yeah.

So I guess we'll see how expensive that ends up being.

“I mean, I got me wondering David now, do you think that they'll do gestures on the screen?”

Yeah. Because they already have them all like being able to do it. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Like an iPad.

Like on the iPad, you can like take all your fingers swipe across and move it to the next step. But not like the gestures from the trackpad gestures. They're strikingly similar. Right.

They are quite small. All fingers does. Yeah. It's very similar. Can you tell he has a galaxy tab?

It's funny. So I have an iPad and a Macbook pro. And I very distinctly use them differently for different things. I just feel like a touchscreen laptop would blur that line.

This has always been the argument like, why would you need both?

I guess it's for people who don't have both. It's for people who don't have an iPad and don't want to buy two things. Now you have one thing that does both. Now I wonder how much of this is just that the technology is so much cheaper now. That's what I keep wondering as well.

You know, it's been true for a while. It's just, there's been such a philosophical argument against a touchscreen Macbook. Yeah, for fraud. There was that famous like Steve Jobs keynote where he says that your arm's going to turn into a gorilla.

Or if you do that and you're going to break your screen or something. He said a lot of things that they've gone back on the before. Yeah, I mean, who wants a stylus? Oh, yeah. More than that.

He hates stylus. Not 10 perfectly good stylus is right here.

“To be fair, I think that was for phones, mostly introducing Apple Pencil.”

Yeah. I guess not necessarily. But yeah. We'll see how this goes. Yeah.

So that's a rumor mill thing. We all know, well, we all expect a whole bunch of new laptops and a bunch of other stuff that we talked about last week. Next week. Yeah, we're going to get that cheap Macbook next week.

If you haven't already subscribed to Way4, I'm going to get subscribed. My uncle said that it is. We'll get all in a very soon for you. Yeah. Okay.

Quinn's, it's called, sorry, going back to that cloth pro Macs. He really went all out. They're like packaging itself really feels like you're just like an Apple product. You know, it's already compatibility list. That's that has a bunch of iPhones that says there's also a dusting intent to switch

in nice, old cinema display CRT, TV. Nice. This is awesome. Very cool. All right.

Well, we're going to wrap it up with a couple more stories after the break. But before that, we have some more questions to ask us and potentially not get any points like usual. T for trivia.

“Oh, I thought you were going to say time out.”

That's why I know. True. trivia. That's what that means. Samsung.

The one, the only. They have a lot of products. Oh, boy. Is it a tractor again? Oh, like a.

No. This question is about two Samsung products that we know and love, specifically the Galaxy Buds and the Galaxy Z Fold. These are both staples of the Samsung lineup.

However, which one came out first, and I'm talking original buds or original fold.

Interesting. They become staples. They're both products that Samsung sells. The buds are, I think. Buds can buy everything.

Dave's fold. The fold. It's starting to get there. It's a stapler. It's out there.

Yeah. The fold around the Z Fold 7, I don't know the buds for, but that doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It could be. Yeah.

We couldn't have had many, many. We didn't even talk about the buds. Yeah. By the way, his new buds. I kind of like, we did a talk on the side.

I got a question. I got a question. We're going to talk about the buds. We didn't talk about the buds. The buds are sweet.

I have them actually. I want to start testing them more. They all kind of look like AirPods from the front, but from the back, they redesigned them. They have new drivers.

They have new features. The brush metal. The brush metal, the flat back. It looks pretty sweet. It looks like an AirPods had the clip of a pen glued to the end of it.

Which I would prefer a flat thing when I'm controlling like a squeeze. Like a round barrel thing, it's kind of annoying actually to squeeze. Well, that's why they chamfer it out. Yeah. But like a fully flat thing.

I like that better. That's just me. Anyway. Yeah. We'll be testing those as well.

Anyway. Okay. Yeah. So trivia will be, at the end, answers like, at the, answers that be right back. The usual at the end.

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Welcome back. We got to talk about weather a little bit more. That was the way for someone to say the dad joke with. Whether or not. I couldn't think of one fast enough.

They're not. Um, okay. Mostly because, okay.

“Talk about weather in the past on this podcast mostly because I think a couple of weeks ago”

I was comparing tech youtube to weather youtube and I'm sticking by that. There are so many parallels between the two. Especially because we just had another blizzard on a fiezer. Did the weather stuff hit your feeds at all? You know, definitely hit my mind.

Am I the only one? Yeah. My feed's been filled with other. Did you know Rich? She didn't go to youtube.com during the great blizzard of 2026.

The one two weeks ago or the one like three days ago? I did not. Or I did not have it. That's full of all the youtubers who live at the same time. Opening up can have feeds showing the live precipitation totals in different places.

Were they interviewing people on the streets? Some of them live pretty good. Yeah. One of them had a feed of Ryan Hall had a guy who was like he had a feed of someone who's just walking through New York City during a blizzard.

Just walking around and different stuff. It was pretty cool. Cool. The blizzard was fun. Yeah.

Anyway. So Ryan Hall are you talking about? Ryan Hall y'all. I can see weather youtuber. Ryan Hall y'all.

Yeah. That's a great name. That's his name. That's a YouTube name. So shout out to Ryan Hall.

He's got a whole thing.

“But a lot of people when I talked about weather apps on social media like to bring up”

that the founders of Dark Sky actually recently came out with a new app called Act New Weather. And I just want to point out they emailed me right before it went live and they were like, hey, Marquez, this is I'm one of the founders of Dark Sky and we actually got acquired by Apple and I left Apple and we started this new thing.

Here's a link to the test flight and I was like, this could be the greatest fishing email of all time. Because it's so specific to what I would instantly click. I clicked it immediately downloaded it without an exchange. Clicked so fast.

You mean you're open-plot by it. Yeah. On your behalf. Yeah, man. I immediately downloaded it.

So it's called Act New Weather. And it is a similar in a few ways and some features, but it also has some new aesthetics to it, but it is a new weather app. It's iOS only right now. It's paid many of the good weather apps are paid.

I'm just going to get it out the way ahead of time just so you know. But it is pretty good. I would say. And I've been playing with it for over the last couple of days.

I'm just upset that this is the first time I'm hearing about it.

Really? You had access to this before. That's. It's funny. I've.

Yeah, we didn't. I dropped this. It's black nobody. No, I kind of assumed that we'd all seen the headlines. Yeah.

And just we're going to try it. Well, sure. But I can't try it because it's iPhone only. Yeah. That's fair.

That is fair. Well, we'll talk to screenshot or two in the pod for those of you who haven't seen what it looks like yet. But it kind of almost looks like, OK, I put a Venn diagram on Twitter of like, there's the pretty weather apps.

And then there's the accurate weather apps. Yeah.

The pretty ones like the default Google weather app are almost always not super accurate.

And then the ones that have their own data and that are like the weather.com and accurate ones are really good information, but are like horrible apps. And a lot of people at that point pointed out that carrot weather, which is the one I use, is kind of right in the middle, because you choose what source you have and it looks really good.

Acme weather.

“I think also looks like kind of like the Google weather app.”

It's pretty good looking, but it has a dark sky timeline underneath and it has a pretty good radar feature or map feature, which let's say you look at radar, but also things like current temperature, wind maps and accumulation totals for pretty storms. I was just in total, I was just looking at this upcoming storm, we're expecting in the next couple of days.

And yeah, we're supposed to get some more of this weekend. Sunday Monday. We. So I never check whether it's one of my many faults. I always learned about upcoming storms in this room when we sit down.

And I was just like, are you ready for this storm? And I'm like, what are you talking about? I think we need to enact an app time limit on weather apps on my cousin's phone because it's getting to be a lot. This weekend, I was like Sunday, I'm like, I really hope it doesn't sell that much.

Oh, hey, everyone, it's like, it's pretty warm outside. There's probably not gonna be any other. It's like, wait for the little pressure system comes in. Don't worry, it can't, it will get worse. That's my bad.

It was like during the day and you guys were all like, there's not that much snow. I was like, don't we all know it's a nighttime storm?

So I just sprinkled some information.

Google it as fast as possible. I'm related. But related. Your venn diagram that you posted. Yeah.

I was curious. How did you make that?

“I googled venn diagram creator and I opened a canvas template and I made it in”

canvas. I was convinced you were going to say Final Cut Pro, but that's actually, it should have been faster if I, it would have been faster. Yeah. Akni says that it is focused on hyperlocal hyper accurate forecasting combined with

transparency about forecast uncertainty, which is nice. So hyperlocal weather is neat because kind of like ways is crowdsourced where if you if something happens and someone reports it in the app, if it has enough users, that's like really useful information. So some truck drop something on the road and you are literally 60 seconds behind that truck,

you'll get a notification that says object on road ahead because somebody reported it. Similar thing with weather. So you literally, like, dark sky did this really well. You would get a notification that says like rain starting in three minutes and three minutes later the front would pass and it would start raining.

And it feels like kind of this magic moment.

Maybe I'm just a little into weather, whatever, but like I thought that was pretty cool that they're also bringing that feature. So they have like a report feature where you can report like, yeah, it just started raining in a biocyclone. Well, it would probably be like a smaller thing like frost or ice or whatever, community.

What's happening right now, you hit lightning and then everybody knows there's lightning nearby. You create lightning. I kind of assume that multiple people need to avoid it so that it's not like one person saying, I don't know how many people are reporting things similar to ways.

It's marcas is the number one of the leaderboards right now. I mean, I do use the ways reports. I would say that it would be awesome if a lot of people use this app and reported it and it got good because hyperlocal letters sweet. Yeah.

It says it has an alternative possible futures feature because that they don't want to assume that the weather is going to be perfectly accurate every time. So it shows like possible different variations. It's got the black line, which is what they think is going to happen and it's got these gray lines, which is what might happen.

Multiverse confirmed. Yeah. Yeah.

They're just plugged into all the different versions of Carnegie New Jersey.

So I just want to throw it out there. Their logo is really bad. It's not really good. I would love if somebody read it. It's like the umbrella for Mac me.

I don't even know. It's cute. It's fine. The blue gradient it looks bad. What?

Well, it's an umbrella. Wait, what? The umbrellas. I don't know. It's like the wiley coyote.

The blue. It's like a blue gradient on the. We were looking at just like the black and white logo on the website. Oh, no. It's not my favorite.

I will say that. It's not great. Definitely have my favorite. But it's cool. Yeah.

It kind of looks like if Claude and the New York Times made an app together. Because Andrew said it was a New York Times looking app and it has like the kind of color palette. Everyone needs to stop using the Chobani font. I don't know what font it is.

But like look up Chobani yogurt like the font. Back it off. New York Times loves Chobani. I don't know what kind to see what you mean. No.

It's like all the. The last DTC conflict.

“I think it's the off light background that makes it.”

Yeah. Like the Chobani packaging. All right. Well, make our own weather station so we can just have a look at the local weather weather.

That's actually a thing. Yeah. Wait. That was a question. I kind of had some saying.

I can't tell if this is a real thing or I'm remembering it incorrectly. So maybe one of you heard of it or an audience member has. But I swear my cousin told me about this thing that he bought that he puts up on his garage. And a lot of people in the area buy have them and are connected together.

That's what I'm saying. It's like wind and barometer and stuff and it takes down what's happening outside. This is a whole radical. It's like a little closer. Do you have this?

No. But not have this. Weatherable. I should. I should just put one up.

Yes. You have a weather app or like even like some people have like a dedicated display where it's like you can plug into the data or you can plug into the data from your own weather station. Instead of getting a local report from the Newark weather station about like what

pressure and temperature and all that are, you'll take it from your actual weather station. So you'll get your actual location. You have MQBHC weather. For every bit of data you upload to the Weather Network, it mines part of the hash of a picture.

I should go currency. Weather coin. Weather coin. Well, no, no. Then I would actually have some.

You tell me. Let's do one. Yeah, we should. Yeah, we should. How much are they?

What do I search? Yeah.

“And to remember, remember when I was like, I need to find this weather thing.”

This is sort of similar. And it is that. It's just a thing you put on your roof and then it tells you that I thought yours was just the display. I didn't realize it was the roof.

They're under big. You can only get the display with the roof thing. You cannot get a display that just three Gs or whatever. I mean, now you can't know that terminal exists.

But right. Yeah, I don't know. My cousin seemed.

Everyone I've ever heard talk about this seems super popular.

If you go on Amazon and just type in weather station, they're made by they're like

“30 bucks and everybody makes them and I'm sure they're all I think it's done.”

Tell us a good one. I'm all right. It's just like what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are. I need to know what it's going to be. I don't know.

Go outside. Actually, it's pulling up with other people. And then if you get enough people in a localized region, how does that tell you what it's going to be? That just tells you.

Because then when it's coming from the west, my homies to the west are just for people these are for families, but my weather homies are the other thing about whether is there's all these different models that are aggregated and computed by different computers and regions or whatever. So those are based on the weather stations that they use.

So then if you have your own weather station that's maybe a little like Newark is close

by, but we're 50 miles away from Newark or something, then you can adjust yours based on how far you are from the weather station that you're getting your information from. I think you should buy me one of these. I'm on the west part of New Jersey and you're on the east part of New Jersey. So it's only beneficial for you if you get me one.

New Jersey is a pencil-ass state. You're like three minutes away from here. Two. No, but the coast tell us. Business from the coast is crazy.

You got half as much knows we did. I know. That's usually I get more snow than you guys do. Yeah. Both times this time, I've gotten significant.

This was a coastal storm that dropped 22 inches here and eight inches there. That's because the weather stations, you know, I know neither of you are in the dating world right now, but you would be killing it, talking about the weather on your dates. You'd be like, "That would not be the weather." Oh, let me tell you around you.

So it's not via Dolacomber station. We got to move on, guys. This isn't said. I feel like I just want to shout out weather committee. I appreciate it.

Yeah. Just saying, "We could start with Marca's." I'm not against it. I'm going to start Googling weather station. I'll use the company card.

All right. Well, yeah. Let's sum up this story. We'll alternate words. Okay.

Individual words? Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go, ready?

Yeah. Do I start? Yeah. You can start. Okay.

Discord. It is not. Or other children's faces, until later late. Yeah. It's all right.

Yeah. Almost goodness. If you guys were, well, yeah.

“If you guys remember our Super Bowl episode, technically true, was after the Super Bowl.”

Discord got in a lot of heat, because they decided that they were going to do age verification via scanning or face if you were a child. If they're algorithms decided that you're probably a kid using various different factors, one of the ways they were going to verify that you were not a kid, actually, was to scan your face.

They got a ton of push back on that. A lot of people went back to a good old team speak back from the 1900s. And they said, oopsie, that was a bad idea.

So they are now delaying the age verification functionality until the second half of

2026, before it rolls out verification, it's going to add more ways to verify, like adding a credit card to your account, because that basically just tells you that you're how old you are, etc. You will also include documentation for every verification vendor that they've used. You will add a spoiler channel's option and publish a technical blog explaining how all

of their age verification systems work. So they are trying really hard to win back the trust of people of the kids and the adults because nobody wants their face to scan, especially since they had like a data breach before this in which everyone's data was like leaked and it was not good. So first nightmare, now we can do trivia, trivia, date, quick update on the score, now you

know what we deal with people. Our kez with 14 and Drew with 17, David with 16, same as the past four in the week before.

“Can you guys please let me update the graphic this week?”

All right, so were you guys paying attention towards the end of the live event, they showed off an expert raw mode that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and fish and stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean. What is it called? For the sample when you're at the aquarium, that's mostly what that's most or the one

time you go snarkling, you're like, isn't this thing water, and then it's the salt. Was the water just the example they used? It's not specifically for water, I think it is for water.

It's not, well, things that are underwater, so like a fish tank.

It'll like pump up the vibrancy stuff. All right. I'm going to read what are you guys. We all have a binder. Okay.

Wait, I guess what'd you say? I wrote ocean for ocean. We all they wrote through. Oh, wow.

“We have the entire combinatoric of both of these words.”

Everyone say what they wrote. One of the times. Oh. I don't know the same time. I'll go first.

I wrote ocean pro. Dang it. I wrote pro mode. I wrote ocean mode. Correct.

Ocean mode. Ocean mode. Yeah. All right. Well, this next one I was paying attention.

50/50 shot. Okay. 50/50. I must see somehow get it wrong. That's part of the 50/50.

Yeah. That's one of the 50s, isn't it? That works. Big math. That's why we're podcasting.

I've never thought of it like that.

I've just bought you to every 50/50 shot I've ever had. I didn't know losing it was an option. Oh, shoot. I like that. Guys, what came first?

The Samsung Galaxy Z Fold. Or the game. The Samsung Galaxy. Or the Samsung Galaxy Buds. There's no letter with the Buds.

Right? It's not like the P Buds. There's a Galaxy Buds number. There's a Galaxy. But the numbers after the Fold 2.

And there's a letter there. It's the Z Fold 5.

“That's just because they have so many phones.”

They've got to separate them with letters. Oh, I thought the Buds did have a number. No, they do have a number. They don't have a letter. It's not like the Samsung Galaxy J Buds.

Oh. Can you imagine? Well, it's actually the Samsung B Buds. Wow. All right.

Guys, who would like to read their answer? Did you guys all write the same thing? No. Who has the different thing? There's really sad.

I really liked the font. That's how it goes. Thank you. I don't know why you're writing looks different in that. But like, goodbye.

That has a font. Not a lot. Impact font. So I said the Buds came first. Oh.

Okay. Sorry. Mark has. I'm so sorry. You can say the reason.

Because they didn't used to be called the Galaxy Buds. That was my guess also. Yeah. The Samsung earbuds used to be called like some mouse. What do these to be called?

Do you remember Adam? You're the second guy. Yeah. Do you remember? They were called.

Something else. I picked this because it felt like the Buds is the obvious answer. I know the watch is used to be called gear. Gear. Gear.

Galaxy gear live for something. Oh. Galaxy gear. Your Buds. Galaxy gear Buds.

As far as I'm aware.

They've always been Galaxy Buds.

Oh. The gear Icon X. Oh. Yes. That sort of was.

Yeah. The Icon X. Fold came out on February 20th, 2019. I remember. The Galaxy Buds came out on March 8th, 2019.

But the Galaxy gear Icon X. Well, that wasn't what I was asking about. Yeah. It's fine. I didn't want any points anyway.

Worked out for you then. Yeah. It melted. The race is on. I feel like.

We need to do a trivia extra against us soon. We really do. The points aren't that high though. It's just bitter. Yeah.

Because your questions are really, really hard. Are they? Yeah. I can't wait. You never get points anymore.

It's like the Mark has got the excavator one. Yeah. Probably we should have just ended mile. Yeah. I think you deserve to win.

That's true. Yeah. I think that's my only point.

“I think we've written hundreds of trivia questions.”

Like there's. I'm doing the best. Anyway. Yeah. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for listening. Like I said, get subscribed because you already know that next week. We got to talk about all the stuff that gets announced then. A lot of, of course, the reviews are coming in the stuff that came out this week. Hype us because somehow he still can.

Yeah. You definitely forgot about that. They apparently did not hard code that. Yeah. Yeah.

You can just hype channels with over five. They were like, this isn't going to work at all. No one under 500 is getting over 500. Yeah. We did it.

We're still hyping ourselves. That's amazing. So yeah. Hype. See on the.

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