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What is up? People of the internet welcome back to another episode of the Waveform podcast. We're host. I'm Markets. But in this episode, we've got, let's see, fast food chains using AI.

Cool. We've got a robot phone that maybe exists, but maybe not. Cool. We've got Ray Ben, Meta Glasses is for using them, then maybe you shouldn't. Cool.

And Google is changing their 30% text. Cool. Pretty cool. Oh, and that's 30% text. Are like developers?

Yeah. Same as Apple. Yeah. It was the same as Apple. Yeah.

All 45 stories. That was the whole thing.

“Was that everyone was like, no, Google's one is cheaper and fine.”

But Apple's one. No, no. Google Apple both got sued for the same things. Yeah. Google lost an Apple one.

I thought Google sued. What? So speaking, Apple lost some parts of it, but Google lost more. Yeah. Yeah.

Superb. I don't have the same reputation. That is, that is facts. Yeah. Well, that's because Google had a chain of emails saying how to make sure you delete

these. And then it's a basketball stuff at the end. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Cool.

All right.

But first, did they even test this?

Okay. I have a really quick, really stupid one. All right. But it drives me insane every day. It drives me insane every day.

I mean, sorry. No, I mean, yeah. I mean, you're a thing. My forester, the volume UI is horrible. It's the worst thing ever.

I'll be really fast on this. Go on, because a lot of cars have surprisingly bad volume UI. You change the volume, takes up the entire screen no matter what's on the screen. Google Maps, have you ever like been needing to take a turn, so you turn the volume down just to make sure it's easier to take a turn?

I don't know why. Yeah. Yeah. You see better. Yeah.

For sure. Well, if you do that too close to your turn on my car, I've lost Google Maps now for like my second. For like my second. It's.

I have a photo. Oh my God. The volume. Yeah. Screen.

It's a full screen takeover. You're not for probably a couple seconds. They're like liquid glass. It's not like liquid liquid glass. That is like seats.

This is me changing the volume on my face. That is not. And let me tell you why you're wrong. Okay. It's a volume knob.

Right. Oh, that's the next part of my world. When your hand is on the knob, you can't see the knob. So how do you know what volume the volume set at? But you need it full screen.

Yeah.

“Do you know your hand is covering it on the screen?”

It should be a little bar on the side that goes up and down with a number next to it. And not take up the entire screen because I need the volume quiet when I'm making my turn. Yeah. And now I've lost being able to see the other problem is it's a full circle.

Wait, wait, wait. Brits stop commenting right now. No, just. No, just. Keep commenting.

This is all for engagement. Subscribe. The circle. It's a full circle. The number it goes to is 38.

No. Why? 38. That's actually worse. That was actually worse.

Part of me is like, that's not that bad because you never go Max volume, right?

But that means the direct middle of the circle is at 19, which is infuriated. Okay. I thought you're what I heard that it was a volume in your car. I was like, whatever. A lot of cars have weird volume.

I think the one I showed a, for kind of what car it was. Where you do a gesture in front of the screen, you twist your finger like this. I think the volume up. I thought that was going to be the dumbest one I've ever seen, but this is worse. This is actually worse.

That's crazy. So annoying. So yeah. So constantly, 19, I'm like, no, I need to go to 20 and now it's like just one tick over the perfect half circle, which then I have to stare at for five seconds.

Yeah. That's a dope record. Honestly, in a car. That's a duper saying. I think if the fiscal had that, I'd be like, that's a little much.

Imagine like doing the whole thing with a like salesperson at the Subaru dealership. Like man, it's got good praise drives great, four wheel drive, everything smooth, right? Everything's great. Let me just check check out the sounds and you're spinning, you're like, oh my God. I just walk out the door and leave it behind.

Now I remember when I was a kid and I would be playing music in the car. My mom would turn the music down because she would get stressed about like, what exit to take. And I'd be like, mom, why are you doing that? And now I totally do that all the time.

But it would be so much worse if you're trying to figure out what exit to take. And the entire screen just disappeared for several seconds.

“And you have to decide between turning the volume down so you can actually focus or being”

able to know where you're supposed to go. If you can you like tap it to make you go away or something like that, that is crazy. That's the worst one yet, that's really bad. That's so crazy. That is what I think Adam has a quick update on his.

Yeah, quick update on the one that I said, I don't remember when it was time is the what's that one. The what's that point.

So now I'm on a different phone and the problem is gone.

Oh, so it is just a pixel problem. Yeah, I think it's just a pixel problem. Hashtag pixel problem. Hashtag pixel. Hashtag team pixel problems.

Hashtag different pixels. But I get from Google. What fun are you on now with your weekly swap? The S26 Ultra now. I came in.

You buy it. Yeah. We'll color black. Nice. Yeah.

Correct. Also, a lot of people were telling him this was like some feature where you because if you like lift it up to listen to it, but no, you're talking about when you had your blue tooth headphones connected when I was headphones. And going in your nose.

Pop it. Yeah. Yeah. That wrong.

Because proximity sensor makes sense if you're like about to take a phone call and then

it switches to the earpiece, whatever, but like I'm wearing headphones. Yeah. Why does the proximity sensor even turn down? It's going to be like a pixel like tapped the flip to hush thing could be like going off or something.

Maybe. I don't know. I don't have to deal with it anymore. So someone else figured out. The best way to fix it.

Do you train your pixel for the S26 Ultra? Not yet, but I'm probably going to. How many total trade-ins do you have? Do you think lifetime?

“I honestly couldn't give you a number saying about Adam's basically the guy who like”

leases a car every year. More than ever. Yeah. It does like every three months. Listen, there aren't a lot of things that I splurge on, but the phone is the one.

It's fair. Adam's been doing this for like the last seven years. I remember Adam and I going to the Galaxy S20 Ultra briefing and we leave that briefing and he's like, I'm getting the phone. It's like Adam, this phone wasn't even here and another phone came in.

That's still under a bargeo. Anyone? Should I even open this book? I'm almost returning. Big returner.

Okay. According to car and driver, at some point, Stellantis, who does not own Subaru, did an internal study where they determined that 38 was the perfect number of volume steps for a car. What? Because you could still hear the difference between each step.

That is, but I did not feel like it was the perfect level of fine and course adjustment. In theory, it makes sense because according to this, you get two decibel increments, which give you about 64 decibels of dynamic range, which is what most people functionally consider silence to loud. That's kind of interesting.

Okay. However, super is not owned by Stellantis, so I don't know what that has to do with this.

“I have so many revottles of that, it's silly and I want to go ahead.”

The biggest rebuttal is that the greatest audio engine of all time, the one baked into all Apple products, has 16 volume steps. And no one has ever been like my iPhone doesn't have enough granularity to the volume. Yeah, but there's also not a number attached to it. They could just take away the number and just show the wheel and it would be better.

That. Yes. But would you say that? No, no, no. Or...

Actually, no. What's all the ton? Why do we care about numbers? Okay. No numbers make me mad, using me happy because actually that is, you know, it's funny.

That's true. A lot of cars that will have like a set of numbers, but I have a set of numbers for the volume and a lot of people are like this, they'll go to like 21 volume and that's uncomfortable. So let's go to 20.

Or let's go to 22 or 25 or certain numbers are okay and others, even though it's the correct volume. In my car specifically, 14 is the perfect volume, but I hate that.

So I always go to 15 or 12, which makes me mad.

But the cars that I released at 12, okay, but 14, it's just 14 is weird. I can't do a 14. Zero's and five's are ideal, zero's and five's are ideal, zero's and five's are ideal. What's up at 12? 12 is fine.

11 is not. It just is what it is. Don't worry about it. But I read you cars that don't have number attached to volume and I'm so much happier because I'm not thinking about the number.

I just started to exactly what I want and that's the perfect thing. Because I'm not even going to get into this weird number bias. You have. I don't even die here. It's a great number.

It's visible by seven. That's it. And two. Well, that's it. 12 is divisible by.

And 14 and one.

I was going to say this is exactly like the headphone thing that happened last week.

Because in my head, I'm like, I could never use a device that doesn't give me a number

with the volume.

“Because like in the audio room, for example, it's like I know when I'm at like, I think 42 is the”

number. I like on my. That's the answer to everything. I know if it's at 42 and my reader is giving me like 78 or 82 decibels in the room. It's the right volume.

Like I can correlate all of these things. Yeah. But when I'm in the car, I don't need to think about matching. I don't need to listen to the music at the same volume that I did last. Oh, I do.

I just think it's a sound. That's why I want. That's my numbers thing. Like there's a right volume. Yeah.

I don't know. And then there's like YouTube volume and system volume. I have this problem on my, I have a Nebula projector. And for some reason, the projector has volume and the Google TV dongle that is part of the projector also has separate volume.

And randomly, the system will just decide that I want to use one or the other. Yeah. And so sometimes it'll be maxed out. And the projector maxes out at 25. I don't know why it's 25.

I'm 25. I'm 25. Well, well, then half to say even numbers are your thing. Well, no, I guess I'm only thinking of 25 because then the halfway mark of that is not.

Yeah. Not at 12.5. Yeah, it's like one time I was on the Google TV thing and I had the volume maxed and it was still really quiet. And I was super confused and I was going through everything.

And I had to change the HDMI to my Nintendo Switch 2. And then raise the volume of the system. Because you can't change the volume of the system while you're in the Google TV volume. That's only the Google TV volume. Yeah.

It's a whole thing. This is the thing with a lot of like pairing your phone to your car. A lot of them automatically max out the phones volume so that you just adjust the car. Quick sense. If it did that automatically.

Yeah. But some don't match the volume. So I'll get in with my car volume high, but phone volume low and I'm trying to phone volume up and suddenly it's way too loud that's trying to car volume down. It's weird.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. We've talked a lot about volume. You know, this is one of those things that we can probably do half an hour on at least.

Yeah. We have another one. Yeah, we started arguing about something else now. In a set of 25, the median would be 13, but in a set of 24, the median would be 12.5.

That's not quite 13. Is it a set of, yeah, like just the number? Yeah, like that's a mean. Yeah. No, the mean is the average.

I'm talking about the number like dead set in the middle of 25 would be. Well, that's if you start at one. Yeah, I'm talking about if you have, if you got a volume knob right, that is 25 steps. 13 would be the one in the middle because you'd have 12 on either side. You've had one through 12 then zero as well.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Zero. 13 would be the same.

“This is what I remember and tells you what's the half way, like what's half”

way between your section into the bottom to be sure. We're probably 20 minutes and we're talking about burger AI. We've got to move. When I was in like third grade, we were learning halves and I had my hand up and I was like half a five is obviously three because it's my middle finger and no one could

convince me otherwise. And I just sat there like I feel like the teacher's lying to logic. Because it's not doing zero. It's the median of a set of five. Yeah, yeah.

You were actually doing advanced math. Yeah, yeah. Well, and then I stopped right there. You're gonna slice your finger and half. Please don't say that.

So more importantly, Burger King is really all dying to hear about this. How important is this? Let's see. It will be very fast. I want to get your opinions on it.

It'll be very fast. You're right. It's supposed to be very fast. It's not about it.

So what I always do, I heard about this from a podcast called Eaters Digest, which

if you're into food or food content, highly recommend, but like readers Digest role people. This is like this is like that, but it's a podcast for food for young people. Oh, Mark has that. Cool. Or maybe millennia.

I could definitely millennial. Just call it Digest. Wow. That's cool. They should just call it that.

That's a good point. Yeah. Remove the eaters Digest cleaner. But okay, so there's a new AI at Burger King stores and I will go over the pros and the cons of this.

There's only. So you're almost right. The pros. The AI's name is Patty, which is really funny. Yeah.

The only pros. That's the only pro of this. That's good.

“And the only thing that is that it is a voice-enabled chatbot that lives inside the employees' headsets that helps them with food preparation and checking their interactions to determine the all of the employees, quote, friendliness.”

So essentially, this is piloting in 500 different Burger King's. Patty has been trained through information compiled by BK franchises and guests on how to measure the friendliness by using phrases like welcome to Burger King. And thank you. By monitoring the headsets, Patty can Burger King managers and franchise owners can then access Patty to see how friendly their employees at their locations are being sounds absolutely. That's a little escape.

That's a little escape.

These people have never watched office space.

Hi, kid. That's the part novice for Jennifer Anderson with her with her. All of her little pieces of flavor. It's literally that.

Also, my favorite part of this was they're working on it to try and recognize tone because I can just imagine people being saying thank you and please extremely sarcastically and being rude and their friendliness things still going up.

But this just sounds like the worst thing ever.

Why are we? This makes it feel like, hey, managers and owners do less work. And now the people who are getting paid the lowest amounts at these and make the franchise run. We're going to monitor you 24/7. So I hope you're not talking about anything private there.

There's something that's going to go. This reminds me that like, my friend has a coffee shop and he got a low rating on Google Maps and the rating just it was like one star and it was like. Barista said, what do you want today? And I felt that that wasn't friendly enough. And I was like, are you kidding?

“You should have said, what the fuck do you want to do?”

That's my thing though is people feel so entitled going to fast food already. Yeah. With like the workers that if someone's rude, they're probably going to leave a crappy review. We don't need to listen to them 24/7 and have AI followed. And every Burger King already has a 1.4 stars.

I, who cares? I love Burger King. Like I love the Whopper. But even I can get seat when I'm at a Burger King. When I'm at a Burger King.

Neither of us want to be neither of these or the employee. So I'm not expecting you to go up over beyond. It's fine dude. Just be rude. Give me my burger and we'll both go home at some point.

That's cool. You tell me to F off and just get everything right on the burger. Probably through the crappies point of sales system. And I'm happy. Yes.

It sounded like you said that's half of what it was doing. The monitoring employees part is ridiculous.

But the first half you said it was like helping them.

You can ask it like what ingredients might need to be. Like how many pieces of bacon? Which could be helpful because of how often, you know, we do limited time offers and stuff like that. But it'd probably easier just ask the employer standing next to you that knows how to do it. It sounds like yeah.

There's a picture. There's a picture on the wall by the station. Probably. It reminded you to put glue on the pizza. This sounds like an AI that Marquez installed at all of our guests.

No one knows about that. You made a good point. What are the big AI gaps last year? Was it not knowing how to make food? Yes.

It was like, oh, my my my cheese is not sticking to the pizza. What do I do? And I was like, use Elmer's glue. It's probably not. It's probably not trade on red.

It's probably trade on, you know, resume. It's trade on red. No, but also it's not. It's not. I know.

There is one thing that I thought did maybe sound a little helpful, which is apparently in the headset. You can say that you're out of an item and it should be able to update the drive through menu all the kiosks all the point of sale systems. So that could be really helpful. In less you go and ask one of your employees, hey, are we out of bacon? And it I guess accident.

I don't know how it works, but I could see that being like, oh, I don't know if or that has to happen. There is easier. Do the amount of times working at a restaurant where the kitchen hasn't told the servers yet that like something is out and it hasn't updated the systems yet.

“And then a bunch of orders come in and you're out of it and then you have to go back to the table and explain to them it's out.”

So that would be kind of nice, but other than that, this sounds awful. Um, fast food workers have it hard enough. Let them, you know, maybe chat about their lives without worrying that everything is recorded. Dude, that's horrible. What if this is super rude.

And then at the end they go, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So they have to get to have a good day. It's like rocket league. In my eyes, like the rocket league to cut down on toxicity. They made all the quick shafts and that is still the most toxic thing in school.

And you like miss a goal. It's like nice, nice kick. What a shot. What a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Great save. And it's just like ultra sarcastic. That's how this feels like. I play the Pokemon trading card again, pocket on my phone. And, um, no, no, you are addicted to the Pokemon trading.

It's the one thing that I have at them. Please let me have it. Okay. I start something. I stick with it for my life.

Okay. Anyway, there's like they Nintendo really did not want people to be able to be talking to each other. They really did. So you cannot, you cannot message each other in any way.

So even if you're trading somebody, you can't say, like, Oh, I don't want this or I want this. Like you can label things that are star. Anyway, the whole thing, people have still found a way. By basically you battle somebody.

And if you beat them sometimes they'll like initiate a trade with you. And just trade you like the most basic card ever. And then say thanks. And that's just like the way that people are talking to each other. Talk to each other.

It's crazy. Like cockroaches. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

Yeah, this is, this is hell. Right.

“I think that the only way that a lot of employees of a lot of jobs”

get through the day is I having camaraderie with their colleagues. And just just knowing that even though it's just like an AI model,

just knowing that there is something that is always listening to what comes out of my mouth,

while I'm at work, is freaking terrifying. And the only reason this exists is because Burger King was like, we got to get our stock up and AI is the only way to do this. I got to tell our investors that we're making the company better and using AI to do it, leveraging AI versus the thing they thought of.

But Burger King is not the fast food place where people are mean to you. That's poppies.

I know.

They're pretty mean at the the KFC talk about combo near me.

Yeah. But that's okay. They're allowed to be. Yeah. They've screwed me down.

I don't care. I really don't care. I do remember. Well, yeah. The key asks are nice, but sometimes you go in.

I remember I walked in. I don't know if it was a Burger King session. Say it's Burger King. But I remember walking to fast food on a late night road trip. And the employee just goes, what?

That was Burger King. That was Burger King. Nice. Nice. Yeah.

Incredible. All right. We are now 20 something minutes in. Volume and Burger A. I don't know.

Well, I've talked about everything. I know this episode. Cool.

“I think next, we're going to go down the Apple new devices,”

too, because all of the reviews are out and we'll not all the reviews. There's a number of reviews out now. All of the products and bargos have lifted. Yes. We're going to have reviews online everywhere.

We put a couple out. We're still working on a couple. But I think that we're going to go through all seven of them. And we're going to rank them from best to worst. So I had a question about that.

Yeah. We say rank them because there's seven here. Yeah. I'll just go through the seven. Just real quick.

iPad Air got the M4 chip. iPhone 17e. Studio display. Studio display XDR. M5 MacBook Air.

M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook Pros. Yeah. And MacBook Neo. Yeah. We rank them.

Are we ranking them based on how good an update they are? Are we ranking them based on just how good they are? Period. I would just say like excitement of the launch. Excitement of the launch.

Yeah. Okay. I can do that.

“Like people being stoked for this product to come out and exist.”

Oh, I can do that right now. Or even you being stoked for this product. Well, that's different. People. I can't walk.

You're more about your thoughts. I think Mark has a number. One's probably. I'm going to guess this studio display XDR. I'm interested to be able to keep this.

Yeah. And I have seen a lot of commentary online on these. So I can do both my excitement level and the general public's excitement level for this. Yeah. For sure.

Would you want to do first?

Thank you. That's two things David. I didn't discuss and said at the same time. We're just on the same page. You finish each other's sandwiches.

Thank you. From. He finished it for me. From top to bottom. All right.

So my personal excitement level. Number one is the studio display XDR. And it's because I am personally using the product right now that this replaces. And that's the only thing. Well, other than the macro pro.

That's true about this list. I kind of like the Pro display XDR. It looks really good. It's also only 60 Hertz. And the XDR is 120.

The one I'm using now. Sorry. The Pro display XDR. Oh. Yeah.

The one I'm using now, which is discontinued officially, which I bought like seven, eight year, however many years ago came out. Yeah. Looks really good. The network texture is amazing. It's got these thinner bezels.

I don't need a webcam or speakers in it. It's a great display. But it's only 60 Hertz. And so this new display comes out. And it is better in every single way on paper other than being smaller.

So it's a 5k 27 inch display instead of a 6k 32 inch display. That being said, it's better in every single way. And it's cheaper by like $2,000 cheaper. And it comes with a stand.

“So that's what I was most excited about.”

And I'm thinking I'm going to be switching slash upgrading to these. Yeah. How do you feel about the size? That's what I'm the most wondering. So that's what it's especially double.

That's a big difference in screen real estate. Yeah. I have a pretty set way that I use my dual display is now. I'm a dual display guy.

I always have my primary, which is mostly my web browser email and whatever I'm working on.

And then on the right, I have a bunch of other things like Slack. I might to do list and calendar and much of other stuff that sits over there. Wow. Good to know we're not your priority. Well.

And Slack notifications come in. I'm on top of it. It's always open. Anyway, I think I can work with slightly less real estate because of the way I manage what I'm doing. I don't need.

I wish it was a 32 inch display. I'd be happier. But I will still have enough. So that's my number one as a studio's place. Right underneath that is MacBook Neo. I've fascinated by curious to test it.

You can see on the podcast video users are aware that it's been in front of me this whole time. Underneath that is M5 Pro and Max MacBook Pros are made for each other or Pith. They seem to have a surprising performance bump in a couple of interesting ways. Storage, read, write speeds are insane. I read the Verge's review and they said they were getting like 18,000 megabytes per second reads and writes.

18,000, 18,000. Yeah. I was getting 1500. Yeah, 1500 on the Neo and I was getting like 3,000 on my MacBook Pro and 18,000 is crazy. So someone who works with big files, I was curious about that.

Then I'd go down to the last four kind of tide for me, I guess. Do I like any one of them more? Let's go M5 Mac. Could I just make this for you? Yeah, the rest is just their all tied now. I think 17 ease over the studio display is just my personal excited thing.

It's what it should have been.

That's true, I agree. I mean, as far as how good a product it is, I agree. So yeah, you go 17e, then MacBook Air, then iPad Air with M4 Rims Studio display last. Yeah, yeah. Now, general excitement from the public is MacBook Neo number one by far, which is why they say it for the last day.

“I think this is probably true about cheap devices in general, which is why weirdly enough iPhone 17e is probably number two,”

as far as volume of chatter that I've seen about this. Number three is people talking about the studio displays a lot. Not necessarily because they are excited to buy them, but because of how big of a difference there is between the interest of studio display XDR, and regular studio display. A lot of people are disappointed with the regular studio display, because it's still a 60 Hz panel.

They didn't really change much. They updated the speakers and Thunderbolt 5 on the back, and that's kind of it in the camera. And it's still 1600 bucks and 60 Hz. So the studio display XDR is the interesting one, but it's 3,200 or 3,300 dollars. So it's not like people are going out and buying this a lot, but they're interested in it because it's the new one.

Yeah. They're different one. The biggest thing that kind of sucks about going to 27 inches for people who just want to use one monitor. I guess like two monitors it feels really big, but like 32 inches on one monitor. I have so much screen real estate to do separate things, and now 27 is quite a bit smaller. Yeah, it is. Yeah, and the bezels are a little thicker, and it's yeah, it's just a little bit less room.

And a lot of people spending that price probably only want to buy one monitor. Yeah, when you're spending that much money, you want the best possible monitor. But I said it in my review of the XDR. It's like, there are no other 27 inch 5k, 2000 knit mini LED 120 Hz options. That's like the disguise scored four goals on a Thursday and March. But it's stuff all of the things are really great.

Like what do you want? Yeah. Like scored four goals. And Thursday usually lose. Yeah, like in one game and had a cool haircut and like has sweet jersey, whatever.

Like it's a bunch of cool things on when that you can't really find anywhere else. So that's I think number three. Uh, and then it kind of tapers off maybe. Hmm, probably MacBook Pro over air just because like people have the people who really like air like because it was the cheapest thing. Now Neo's there. So MacBook Pro's are like maybe you were the person who's waited a few generations to get the new one and you're looking for it.

True, but there's a ton of people on M1 generation MacBooks right now.

“And every time a new generation comes out, they all look around and go, is it now worth an upgrade?”

Because the M1 is so much better than whatever they had before and it was a huge leap. So they've had M1 through the last six years of Apple Silicon.

And now M5 they're finally looking around like is now the time I should upgrade?

Yeah. And it's it's closing in on maybe it's finally worth jumping. It's still expensive, but like M5 air is 1100 bucks now. If you have an M1 air, should you go to an M5 air? You still kind of don't have to.

Yeah. But it's starting to get there. I think M2 and M3 really did not sell very well because everyone bought the M1 and M1 Max being like, I don't have to ever get this for like seven to 10 years. Yeah.

Like that was the whole thing. Like I believe like five grand on an M1 16 inch MacBook Pro with four terabytes of storage. Because I was like still kicking. It's still kicking. Yeah, and I remember you stressed about it at the time, but look at how long it's lasted.

I know exactly.

“Yeah, I think with the M5 MacBook Pro is the new fusion architecture is kind of a big deal.”

You can move data way faster. The Jeep, there's more GPUs. It's kind of turning into like a serious, serious workhorse. And I know that it's not upgradable in any given way.

But yeah, I think people are finally starting to feel like maybe it's worth upgrading.

Especially those people that are doing like coding and AI tasks where they just want to have that stuff accelerated. Yeah. This stuff is very, very good at that. Now, obviously, we have the rumor that the M6 Pro and M6 Max are coming out later this year. Like in November.

Isn't that like word? So you know who's an interesting spot right now? Right. I was going to bring who edits here as you guys probably know. Her editing machine is an M1 Max MacBook Pro.

Yeah. And it's just like yours. It's been cooking. You know, it's been very capable. And it's gotten the job done and plenty of edits have happened on that computer.

But like I said, it's getting up to the time where it's like, wow. Okay, 12 to 25% every year now it's stacking up. And maybe maybe M5 is the chance to upgrade and actually feel that difference. But now that there's that crazy MacBook Ultra rumor on the horizon, it's like well, maybe that's the one to wait for instead.

And I don't know if that's going to be an M5 Max or an M6 Max or if they'll even get to M6 by then. Or if it's just a OLED that we want it for either way. For people who are like maxing out a laptop as their main machine. And I'm maxing. Then that's that's the carrot at the end of the stick right now.

Mariah specifically wants a touchscreen. Oh.

Really? No, no, no, no.

“Mariah was all in an updating and then Alex was like, no, don't do a German just said that like the”

I'm safe. Ultras coming out later. I was like, oh my god, Mariah is going to retire and still have that M1. I mean, isn't she still running a pixel six? Yes.

Yeah, but the getting worked on machine. No, I know. Like the gains from M1 Max to M5 Max are will be pretty good for sure. I just I wonder if she doesn't need the touchscreen necessarily and then doesn't need the the notch to be gone and have it be replaced with a potentially touch ID like it's going to be a dynamic island. I don't know if it matters for her that much, especially if the gains. We don't even know if it will actually be M6 Pro and Max.

And even if it is how much better is that than M5 Pro and Max, like maybe it's not that much better and they focus on enabling things like the touchscreen and these different things. They and like maybe some AI workload things if they ever release Apple intelligence stuff like that. Yeah, it is an awkward thing, especially when it's like we're not even really nine months away from this potential launch. Niners have my potential launch. And it could get pushed, there's all the, you know, there's the ram's shortage, there's all that stuff. This is a whole another angle to all of this is that Apple was able to reduce the price of most of their devices amid the global ram shortage, which isn't saying like every other computer, every other phone is going up in price.

And Apple is like here to $600 laptop. Here's where we're going to reduce the price of the display, which also have the, by the way, the display is an eight 19 in it, so has 16 gigs of ram. The display is, sorry, yeah, 12, 12 gigs of ram has more ram than the Neo. Yeah, which is wild as it should. I don't, I guess it's cheaper. It is very different, but, but then the air did go up on your bucks, right? Well, they just were, they got rid of the base model. So it's actually it's a hundred dollars cheaper.

But yeah, there is no base model and it's a hundred dollars cheaper than the second model up from last year.

It's the weird version of. Exactly. So it's like, yeah, it's, it's a price. Their margin is better on the base one now because storage doesn't cost them much, but they're giving you more storage. Yeah, for the upgraded price. So the price of entry is higher, but you get more storage. And it used to be $200 to get that much more storage last year. How long do you think they eat the price until they have to raise it? This is my question. I don't know how long Tim Cook makes these deals for like storage and flash.

And I, I would guess a year and a half, maybe two years. So it's like very possible that by the end of the year, this is going to be way more expensive. I mean, we already knew that this MacBook Ultra, whatever it is, it's supposed to be much more expensive than this one.

“And I think that that's what potentially makes the M5 still doable for people.”

And maybe why they're going to release both in the same year is that they're priced differently enough than it's like M5 M5 Max are still insanely good. If you want top top top of the line M6 M6 Ultra, whatever Max, I don't know. And their price ladder is crazy. So I know. I'm going to make a side bet here. All these rumors on this new laptop name seems to be floating M studio.

Something like MacBook Ultra. I firmly believe it should be studio. I can still make a studio. I don't look studio. You don't think that's too confusing. They already have a Max studio. They already have a, well, the lineup name is already confusing enough, that I think this is fine. They do Ultra because it can't be a back book chip. Well, if it only has the Ultra chip.

Yeah, it would have to because if they absolutely can do Ultra MacBook Ultra with M6 Pro would be really confusing. Or could be M5 Ultra?

So that's the first question is, are they going to put an Ultra chip in a laptop?

“That is such a powerful chip and a so much GPU they never put in an laptop before.”

I don't know if they would. They've only done Pro and Max and base. But if they do and they name the laptop, the Ultra, that's a little crit. Well, it has the Ultra only put the Ultra chip. Yeah, MacBook Ultra, which only has the Ultra chip. MacBook Pro could make sense. MacBook Pro Vax with the Ultra chip and the Pro and Max chips are not in the Pro Max. I'm lucky to hear it.

Give me a 7.1 inch. 100%. See MacBook Ultra, but doesn't have an Ultra chip. It doesn't matter. No one cares about the chip with your just buying a laptop.

We might know if you're buying a 3,000 $100 Max the same way that you're buying like the Apple Watch Ultra. Most people don't know what chip is inside of it. It's just the Ultra one. That's the one I get. That's fair.

Yes, but in computers, I do think there's some part of you that's like why am I getting a MacBook Ultra. Over the MacBook Pro. Yeah. And it'll be like an increase.

And the answer is the screen and the chip.

It's going to be the fastest best looking screen. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to have the Ultra chip specifically. Just like a super penthouse. Like regular Max chip. Even in their own naming scheme, like they just released the like M5 Max Book Pro.

Right. So there is a Pro and a Pro. There's a Macbook Pro with a Pro and there's a Mac. The Pro and Max. Neos looking like there is an Ultra.

The more I look at it. I'm just saying I do think as weird as their naming is already. I don't think they can get away with naming it. Macbook Ultra and not putting the Ultra chip in it. That's all I'm saying.

“So I think they have to name it something else.”

And I think studio is the name. That's that's what I'm saying. The weird thing about studio is that now they have the studio display that's kind of mid.

And it's not like insanely amazing.

And then they have the studio display XDR. That's really good. Right. So that's kind of weird, right? Yeah.

The display is not mid. I mean, it's beautiful. It's still, it's still really not. I think both can be true. Yeah, both can be true.

Yeah, both can be. Mine is horribly broken. But no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying it was the old one. The studio display.

So that's like the kind of weird thing is like studio kind of means pro. But there is still the studio and studio pro XDR pretty much by XDR is the name of it. It's the MacBook XDR. But it's already that's possible. But it's R.

The XDR. The Macbook now it's the name. True. Yeah. Is the OLED one extra XDR?

I don't know. X-XDR. I mean, the special thing about this laptop is going to be the screen. So I wouldn't be surprised if the name is something about this. I just hope it doesn't go back to this conversation.

And OLED. Yeah, right? I think it's supposed to be an OLED. So they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, So weird.

Because now they have like mini, because they have many LED in the laptop already. Which looks phenomenal. Which looks phenomenal. And then now they finally put it in the bigger display. And it is easier to make smaller screens like this.

So like they start with like really small and then they slowly go up. But it kind of feels like now they're like, they've got multiple generations of screen technologies.

“You have to just, you have to just know which one is better.”

And OLED didn't used to be better until they increased the brightness and the refresh rate. Because OLEDs used to be hard to make bright and fast. And now you can. Yeah. So it's just, it is interesting how you just said how like the new studio display XDR matches

with a MacBook screen way better. Now when you're using it in that mode and do then make the highest level laptop and highest level monitor now would be different screens again. Yeah. Which needs.

This is pixel. Oh my God. Again, this thing's not coming out. But they released the the studio display XDR again. But with OLED later.

It's like a weird ladder thing. And maybe they do that on purpose to make you always buy the new one. Yeah. When it comes to stagger the releases. I guess I'm still confused.

It's going to be like the like pro pro version of a MacBook. Touch screen feels like more of a like casual feature. casual feature. I agree. Yeah.

Which is why I never wanted it in the first place.

Yeah. So you two are not allowed to get by this. The pick comes out. I'm probably still looking at. I think kind of a sneaky update is the M5 air.

Because it's crazy that the air used to be the computer that people were like. This used to be the Neo where people were like, you can't really do like really serious video editing, et cetera, et cetera. On it. But the M5 is like super capable.

Yes. And if you have one of those laptops, you can do pretty crazy video editing. Like the M5 is probably just as good in many ways as the M1 like pro or Max was. Yeah. Yeah.

It's an eye opener like actually using the Neo and just trying to find the performance ceiling and seeing that it. It'll just. You can just open Final Cut and just throw a bunch of. This video from iPhone in there and you're.

You're doing it. You're editing 4K video on a MacBook Neo. Like it's happening. So that's that's already crazy. It's it's benchmarking around M1 levels of performance with this chip.

So M5 is is. Big multi-threaded jumps. Big screen improvement. Yeah. Like user way more GPU.

It's going to be a better like. It's a really good machine. Yeah. So yeah. That's okay.

Wait. I have a question for you guys. Now that the MacBook Neo is out. Which one do you recommend? Yeah.

The Neo or the Air. Four for who. Yeah. For the. Random college student walks up to you.

Like I'm starting college next week. Which one? I mean the the new default is Neo. Yeah. So it's like for the 97 90 something percent of people.

I'm starting with Neo and then going. What do you want to do on this laptop? And if I hear something that they say that sounds like Neo couldn't handle it, then I'll bump you up to an air. It's like used to be air.

And then when you hear the thing, you bump on up to a pro. Yeah. So now what is that ladder?

It's like the air can do 99 percent of what most people need to do on the laptop.

“And if you're coming to me and asking a laptop, you should get because you're not like”

in the weeds doing the research. That probably means a Neo can handle everything you're doing. Unless you're on the screen. The air has a thing. Yeah.

If you have a 15 inch air, if you have bigger screen, sure. Yeah. But the second you say something like, I have these these projects that I want to do. And my current computers to slow for them. Then I'm like, okay.

Now you need to figure out if the Neo can handle that or not.

You know, people are coding with like way heavier LM stuff and bigger AI projects. And they want more local memory and sometimes they're playing bigger games. Right. Sometimes they're doing more stuff. Then air can probably handle it.

And at the very, very peak of that is I am doing professional like projects that I make money from and MacBook Airs the answer.

I say this because I still think to me the answer is still MacBook Air.

“Like I think the same way that people need to be convinced people need to convince me”

for me to recommend them a pro. I need to be convinced to recommend you a Neo. Why? I still think that the air is just a safe bet for anyone. If I know nothing about what you're going to be worth.

It is the safe bet. That's five hundred more. Like how long you keep M1. I know. It's almost double almost double the price.

Yeah. I think this anecdotally the the scenario to me is not so much as that. Actually the parent of the kid about to leave high school and go to college. I'm asking me what laptop should I get my kid and the two reasons. I've convinced them to spend extra money because it's usually the parents money.

So they don't want to spend more to go MacBook Air in the past. Because if you're already asking me what MacBook or laptop to buy, you don't know a lot. So you buying that means you can also bring a do an Apple store when something happens to it. So now I can recommend a much easier to digest price point for a parent.

And with the benefit of like wherever your kid goes to college is probably an Apple store within 40 minutes of them to go fix it.

Yeah. I'll say this. We're not not to do. That's that's super valid. I'll also say without knowing the breakdown of how much each laptop sells.

“The way I think about it is like if you want the true safest bet money no object like 14.”

If you want MacBook Air M5, that's going to cover 93% of people. And MacBook Neo is going to cover 85% of people. And so if I just want to recommend the thing that works for everyone. Okay. Yeah.

I'm MacBook Pro is going to do it. But you could probably start with the Neo. And then if you're in the sliver of people who that can't cover, then you bump up. Yeah. That's how I think about it.

Yeah. And it's crazy with that education discount too. Yeah. I still think everybody should probably get the touch bar 512 gigabyte version. That's the other thing.

If you need more storage. I know this touch ID. You mean touch ID. Yeah. I was like, oh, bring that touch bar.

No. Yeah. If you need more storage, this only comes with 256 and 512. So I would definitely recommend getting the 512. Unless you're apparently like my sister and do everything on the cloud.

My actual thing that I say to people is I go look at how much storage you're using right now on your current computer. For like 4 or 5 years in, how much storage are you using? Assume that you'll use 50% more and get enough to cover that because you're going to have it for 4 or 5 more years. Just do that. So I just like literally started something the other day who has like 128 gigs used out of their 256.

Like you can get another 256 computer and be fine for the next 4 or 5 years. For most people, like photos and stuff too. Yep. What it's been about on a laptop. But yeah.

The other thing is like the touch ID touch ID not touch bar. A lot easier to log into your computer every time you open it by touching it as opposed to typing your password every single time. If you have an Apple Watch obviously, you can set it up so automatically on locks if you have your Apple Watch with you. But it is frustrating to have to type your password every single time. So that is something.

Yeah. But yeah. Pretty crazy.

“I think we talked about pretty much everything, right?”

You know what else we do every time? We do trivia. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to talk about the M4 iPad Air.

There's really nothing to say. You just said everything about the iPad Air. It has an M4. Yes, indeed. Let's move on.

Trippy. Yeah. Dude. All right. So after the break, we're going to talk potentially.

I thought we're going to talk about it before the break. But the new honor robot phone. Which they should not be calling a robot phone because there's nothing. There's robots.

The Verge article basically has the same thought as you.

What else is new? Just kidding. I love those guys. But my question is, amidst all the robot phone stuff. Honor dropped a press release that I did not see anyone mention in their articles.

Which is honor is partnering with a camera company. Yes. What? Camera company. Oh.

Is it? I remember. Can we answer right now? No. And I missed this.

Oh. I know. I know. We'll come. I remember.

I'm going to write down. Too much thinking. I think I know what it is. All right. Answers will be at the end.

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But what I want to do is not to get a lot of students. The semester-by-tag laptop is often held in the internet. It's a master's real-time. But you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. There's a lot of stuff that gets launched there. It kind of has wind off in previous years but this year we're freaking back baby. There's a lot of weird stuff coming out there. One of those things was the honor robot phone, which we had, yes, beep, beep, boop. We had shown this phone off a number of months ago because they showed off a little concept so we talked about it briefly.

But now it's out in the wild sort of it's attached tables. You can't really take it around. But effectively what this is, it's a phone that has a built-in DJI Osmo Pocket in it. It's like a little gimbal thing that you can, you know, you can, like, swirl around. Unfolds out of the phone. Unfolds out of the phone, which is very crazy. So, yeah, it's weird. They claim that it's 70% smaller than the competition. We're guessing that the competition is the Osmo Pocket.

“Yeah, they just had competition. I was like, yeah, gimbal in a smartphone. What's the competition?”

It doesn't look 70% smaller than an Osmo because no, it's definitely smaller than an Osmo, but an Osmo is small. In less they're talking about, like, actual gimbal. Maybe that's the competition. I think they're referring to the literal, like, gimbal mechanism. Yeah, to, like, hold it into a phone. Something that's already small, 70% swars. Yeah, the way it comes out is the back of the phone has a kind of plateau, and then weirdly enough, all the cameras are on the right side of the plateau, which we're not used to seeing.

And then the left side has a stagger almost like a step because that needs to half of it needs to slide over the right side, and then it flips up on top of the phone. Yeah, kind of, like, remember, a central had that, like, a 360 cam that connected with Pogo pins on the back and was up on the top. Yeah, like that, but also kind of looks like that into 360 webcam that kind of falls to the around the link. Yeah, kind of falls around. It's like that. Yeah, it's strange. They say it's the smallest four degrees of freedom gimbal in the industry.

And the bump is already pretty big, but it makes the bump very deep. The wobble must be nuts on that phone. Yeah.

You know, when you put your finger pocket and, like, the lip of your pocket catches the camera lens, what happens on this phone? That's another thing.

“Yeah, I just, I think there's a reason why they don't let people hold this thing. If you watch all the hands on videos, none of them are hands on.”

But they're just pointing at the phone, like, on a stick, on a stand in mobile Congress. And then also, okay, so I got briefed on this phone, and I talked to them about this, and they're explaining why it's called the robot phone. Do you guys know why it's called the robot phone? Kind of it. Sort of a robot phone.

Does it go across the desk? It nods it. Almost. Almost. The camera itself, obviously, the gimbal will, like, move it out and point around and do all sorts of stuff like that and can follow you.

But also, when you're not using it as a camera, it kind of becomes this anthropomorphic face and nods and shakes its head and responds to your queries with sounds. So you can ask it. Do you think my outfit is nice? And it will not go, yeah, nice outfit by moving the gimbal to shake the camera up and down. That's why it's the--

I would love if it just judged me by what I was looking at on my phone and it could, like, look down at the screen and look back at me and shake it.

That's the first thought I had is what it ever said.

No. Like, if you go, hey, gimbal of robot phone, do you like my outfit? And it looks that you can go, just folds back up. I don't like it. That would be hilarious.

Yeah. But yeah, apparently, yeah, respond to your query. They are apparently also developing accessory to clip it to your backpack.

“So I think the point of this is that you should be able to use voice commands to do different actions and it could be kind of this--”

You clip for your phone to your backpack and then you have like a POV thing going on on your back or maybe on your-- Like the Osmo, people like to clip it on your backpack. Yeah. This feels like such a 26 phone launch of, hey, we actually put some crazy hardware on this prototype phone. And let's still tell you about all the weird AI things it can do instead of that we fit a gimbal in some--

So I know it'll pay attention if we don't say AI. So AI, yeah. Yeah. They are using a 200 megapixel camera, which I assume is primarily used for insane video stabilization, because you're not going to use all 200 megapixels.

You're going to crop the hell into that thing. Yeah. It's weird.

Apparently, it's going to come out.

This is my allegedly. Or is it-- Is it going to come out in China only for $3,000 in like limited supply? Or is it going to come out? Probably--

Okay, they suggested a global release in the future. Wow. Was a possibility, but they have no timeline. This is a long shot, but have any of you played the Star Wars Fallen Order game? Did I fall in order?

No. There's a robot, the BD1, that it's just a little camera guy that hangs around your backpack and shoulder. If they can make this that, I'm all in. Just give me that little robot with a camera.

“I think it just screws your phone up, so it's still way too big.”

And your phone camera bump is like a double plateau, essentially on one side. You need this thing as IP68. No, shut up. No, not that. Bring it to the beach.

Oh, it's like a coded code. I can bring it to the beach. It can bring it to the beach. It can bring it to the beach. Full shot of water inside of the empty cavity.

When it's popped out. Yeah. The drones are-- drones are mostly-- you can-- No, you can't. But it can do one thing where like drones--

You can get them wet. A little-- a little-- a little-- No, maybe a little bit. Not like some birds or anything. But you can-- you can--

I don't-- I can't-- I don't know the item. That will be a drone that comes out eventually is a drone that can land in water and then can jet around like about that will happen.

If robot vacuumes have anything to do with it. See what Google says has to say about it. It's-- Mavic drones do not have an official IP right now. I was going to--

It's funny that there's going to be five. Light rain. Mavic 40. People do fly. Light rain.

And through like fog, which is basically rain.

Yeah. It's a whole other conversation. And what is rain? Dense fog is like a cloud, actually. A cloud is basically--

A cloud is when it condenses enough to precipitate. But the fog is just talk about whether-- It's very casual here. That's my bad. I saw the road that I was going down.

And I decided not to go. You got it. It's that meme of the car. I didn't say anything to the right. Whether I was back to the fog.

Yeah. Yes. So yeah, I don't know. It could be interesting. Well, we'll see when it comes out.

We'll see when it comes out. Now we have to talk about the thing that we glazed over a little bit last week. We briefly mentioned it, but we wanted to go a little bit deeper in this. Mehta is allegedly sending your video feed from your meta-AI Rayman glasses to an analysis facility in Kenya.

And people are being-- No, don't do that. Do not do that. People are being forced to watch videos that they shouldn't be watching.

Lots of intimate scenes. Lots of people using the bathroom.

Banking details. Banking details. And, you know, I just think we probably shouldn't have camera shop turf faces all the time. But maybe that's just me.

And meta is the one that a few weeks ago had that leaked internal memo where they were like, There's a lot of bad shit going on in the world right now, which means it's perfect time to launch these AI features that people do not want. So, so I didn't read this article, but I do have questions if you guys have. I guess my first question is when you said, like, feed, camera feed.

“Do you mean, like, not live feed, but stuff you take pictures of or stuff you ask AI about, what is involved?”

There's a long article. One will post it in the show notes because everyone should read it. It's a Swedish newspaper that did this investigation from what I remember and from what I wrote down. It seems like it's the majority of the time they're seeing it is when you're activating AI features.

And not even always just like the AI features of, like, use the context of the camera.

But essentially, you ask it in AI question. It isn't showing the recording thing because of you're not just doing the video recording. And people don't know how long it's continuing to use the context of video and audio. And so what it's do, the reason it's getting sent to this company called Samah Sama, they're located in Kenya is there people there in an office who are using that feed to help label different things to help teach metas AI.

They're data annotators and annotators. So yeah, they're circling objects so you can tell the street signs you can tell cars you can tell a person. And it's just helping build that. This you is is these people are saying the stuff they're seeing is like banking details on cards. They're seeing private conversations that could be about all sorts of different stuff.

Yeah. Legal and/or illegal. They're seeing one example was somebody asked a question and then put their glasses down on the nightstand.

And then their wife walked out of the bathroom naked and they're seeing all these different, you know, sexual intercourse.

People go into the bathroom, people in changing rooms. All these different extremely private things are being sent to this facility in Kenya where data annotators can then see all these really private.

“My next question was going to be like, why is the data getting sent back?”

So it's not just like, oh, this is some like mischievous thing that they're doing. It's that specifically they've decided to use humans to help correct or maybe point out things to the AI to train it to make it better. Yeah. So very poorly compensated human. It's got a lot of really there's a ton of also investigations about that company charging X amount and paying the actual employees.

Fractions of what they're charging. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all. So that's another thing. The employees aren't allowed like phones and stuff in the office, but at the same time like, I don't care what it is.

I just don't want people seeing, potentially stuff like that, especially when you don't know when it's ever recording the stuff. That's the last question where she is. Yeah. It's not just when you're asking the AI for a visual a man. You don't know when that ends after you ask you.

You don't know when we did a little test in the office to see what would trigger various indicator lights in the camera. Because obviously when you say meta take a picture the ring around the camera lights up. Yes. If you say, so I looked at Mariah and I said, what met a meta. Sorry, I don't want to trigger anyone's thing.

But there's like a key phrase. Yeah, I don't remember what it is. But yeah. Mr. AI bought. What is 6 plus 2?

And the camera light did not come on because that question should not require the camera. Then I asked it what color is the person in front of me's shirt? And the light still did not come on. So there's no feedback when the AI. There's no camera feedback to either the user.

There's a prompt light, but the prompt light comes on any time that the thing is being prompted. So that also. So the point is that like you don't actually know when the camera is firing. Yeah. Like the camera could have been recording data and sending that tomato when I asked it.

What's 6 plus 2 is. It wouldn't surprise me because in order for context aware, you know, AI through the camera to answer you as fast as possible.

“You should launch the camera and audio immediately once you trigger the word, right?”

Well, it's a different type of. Well, it's just from I experience it's a different type of prompt. I think you literally say, hey, I'm look and tell me. And we'll start that then. Like even to be faster.

I just had to say, hey, what color is the person's shirt in front of me? And it gave me the correct answer. So clearly the camera was turned on. And I tested that multiple times to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Like how many people are in the room or the lights on.

And I never said look and tell me it was just like there.

Yeah. So a couple extra things in here is like. Meta's attempt at privacy here is that their own systems are blurring faces before goes to these data editors. But they are also saying that depending on lighting conditions and stuff that those blurs don't work all the time, it's pretty often that they see people just and their faces and everything like that, which maybe they need data

But it's just this is all really geeky.

“I mean, and in their terms of service, they're saying this is fine because it says, in some cases,”

Meta will review your interactions with AI's, including the content of your conversations with or messages to AI. And this review can be automated or manual parentheses human. So, and no one will know when it's human. You don't know when you're using a product, but you don't know what. You can't opt out of this either through the AI.

There is some other privacy options. You can opt out of through some other stuff on Meta Raybans. But through AI, there's no opt out as far as I'm concerned. And when I'm reading this right now, opt out would be smart to add. It would be.

Yeah. It should be opt-in. It should be. Yeah.

“All of Samsung, like I just remember, reviewing S26 Ultra, all of these features of a Galaxy AI stuff.”

They're all on by default. And they also will all use the internet by default. But at the very bottom, there's a little button you can check, which is do all of this on device. Which does limit some of its functionality.

But it is an option that you can check, which is to never have any of this stuff leave your device.

Obviously, if you're editing photos or doing any of that stuff, maybe you want to check that box. I agree that opting everyone in by default is ridiculous. Well, and it's why they're selling these, right? Because this is all training Meta's AI stuff. They want as much data.

They want as much data. You're wearing it all the time. You're probably accessing the AI stuff. It's just going to record. And now you pay a bunch of people horrible wages to then help.

It wrongly tell the color of my co-workers shirt later. And it's like, it sort of seems like it's meant to be confusing on purpose. Like, one of the parts of the article was going to look as on a castor, which is the company that makes the glasses part of it. And asking a bunch of sales reps about where this data gets stored.

And a bunch of them were like, no, no. Everything happens locally on the glasses. They just have no idea. They have no idea. I mean, multiple different answers.

No one has any idea. You know, accepts, accept Meta. Half of Meta might not even know because they don't want them to know. Like, this reminds me a lot of the content moderation things that was happening a couple years ago. Casey Newton had like a big story interviewing people in these places that are just like looking at videos on social media that people die.

Yeah, it's horrible videos. And it's like they're getting paid pennies to like do this content moderation stuff. This is like the new like labor of AI. Yeah, I cannot imagine. Yeah.

So yeah, it says that they are also all of the chats, all the transcriptions of the chats are also stored. And they have to go through those to see if the AI gave them a good answer. And there's a lot of weird conversations that people are having. And it's just, it's just a weird privacy thing. Because I think that something that we don't acknowledge enough as a society is what is in the terms and conditions that you just scroll past really quickly.

And then I accept that stuff used to be like, I will not see the company if my microwave explodes. But now it's like, I consent to give up all data that I have ever used on this product in the company can use it for whatever they want and blah blah blah. And yeah, you're, you're the product if the, the services free and right now the AI service is the free thing and the glasses are what you're paying for. This is extra freaky because remember this is the same product that those Harvard researchers made the like look what we can do automatic face ID.

Yeah, thing built in. Yeah, no, no, no. I know. Well, student, whatever, you know, like this is like how easy would it be for someone to get these like, I don't know. I'm spiraling and this is bad. You know, this is bad. Yikki at the best level and extremely concerning depending on how much you trust met.

“And you should just if you have these glasses read this article pretty much.”

And just like you, it's just in general, if you if you own a device that has a non webcam camera like I like phones and laptops.

I think our exam from this statement, but like if you own a device with a camera on it, just assume it is always recording.

And that footage will be stored somewhere forever. And people can look at it like like there's no reason to ever assume that a device with a camera because you know the article even says like. The company, the money meta makes on this training data from you is infinitely more valuable than any then then if they sold glasses to everyone in the universe, you know, like. So of course they're going to look at it over and over and over and over again and of course they're going to capture as much as they can of your life.

Like the stuff about the glasses sometimes recording for like long periods of time is like why do they do that? It should definitely have the ring going on for any time that camera is being accessed and something can be used for sure. It almost, if you really don't just met it, you could argue that they only put the ring on there for normal recording to then make you not think about when it's reporting later for AI stuff. I don't necessarily think that's true, but I'm sure they're not trying to be because of this.

I really liked and sort, I don't know if it was in direct response to this, but around the time this article came out someone dropped an Android app that makes your phone scan Bluetooth 24/7.

And it can detect whether someone has meta glasses within 50 feet of you and sends you an alert so you can go find them and not do anything. You're going to find them and say, yeah. Yeah, generally take off those glasses or madam cool next thing another potentially really confusing article, but for the better this time. Yeah, Google's 30% tax is changing.

“Where's this, there's a cool soundboard, there's somewhere, right?”

Yeah, we've talked multiple times in apparently Alice doesn't remember any of them. I'll talk about epic versus Google, they were also epic versus Apple. Essentially, suing these companies because of their monopoly over play stores and taxes on top of distribution. Yeah, so there was a settlement or it seems like a settlement was reached in November, but before the final details of that came out, Google just started making changes and just announced recently that they're going to change how they're doing there.

I just keep calling it the Google tax, I think everyone understands what I'm saying. Yeah, play store tax 30% of essentially your revenue, if you sell on the play store through pretty much any form goes to Google. Yeah. I'm going to super TLDR this and try and explain a little different afterwards, but it gets really confusing because there's different levels. Most of the fees seem to be going to 20% or lower.

And by the end of the year, they're going to launch registered app stores, which is a program that you can download third party app stores for people outside of the U.S.

Pretty much the same way you would just download something Google play. So they're not making this hard side loading effort of getting like an epic store or stuff on your phone that's a pain in the neck.

“You should just be able to download them.”

No problem, which is a huge, it should outside of the U.S. And it's in particular that, right? That's what I read. I was like European law. I guess, again. We don't get it. Thank you. You're getting the cool phones. They get the good consumer rights.

Hey, they don't get that 20 watt charger in their Neo box. That's true, damn. That's tough. So yeah, 20% for the most part of people, which is 10% less. I'm trying to look into here.

I have this chart that even the more I look at it, the more I'm confused. So new installs, 20% existing installs 25%. Non recurring purchases, 20% they're taking links to downloads. I'm not even going to attempt it. But so in some subscriptions and micro transactions, there's some other ways that this can be even lower.

And the Google play billing fee, if you're using their billing system, five percent. So a lot of things did go down. This is great.

“Somebody, I think, verge wrote this as Tim Sweeney just signed a deal to not be able to complain about Google for the next three years or something like that.”

Which I thought was pretty funny. It was till 2032. Is it? Yeah. Roll out for this will be through the year.

It seems like by June 30th, this will affect UK and US. September 30th, Australia, December 31st, Korea, and Japan. And then by September 30th, 2027, the rest of the world. I'll link the verge article. If you're a developer and actually need a lot more information on this because there's like 20 different ways that this could change.

The breakdown of this is reminiscent of when the judge said that Apple had to change their fees. And then they did the malicious compliance thing and just made it so insanely confusing and probably worse for most people. And then the judge came back with the injection and said there will not be another bite at the Apple, which was a banger. That almost kind of looks like what this is. But I don't think this is necessarily a malicious compliance thing.

It's just Google trying to say they're asked because both Google and Apple make a huge amount of money being the traffic stop for app stores. Yep, that is their huge revenue driver for them. Apple, notably, has been like shifting to services over the last few years because they know that they're probably not going to be able to endlessly make money on the App Store anymore. So yeah, Google is also going to try to have to fill the gap, but it seems like they came to an agreement that was good enough for everybody.

I'm surprised that Tim Sweeney was still okay with 20% to be honest, like I think that he was pretty hardcore about, you know, absolutely not.

I think the biggest thing is that there's a easier way to download third party stores on your phone, which then obviously you're outside the store.

Yeah, so good for developers if you can understand it.

I don't get Fortnite and that will make changes in the world.

“I mean, most game stores outside of Steam only really still exist because that company has like one giant game that everybody plays, you know.”

Well, Epic starts it's like getting other big ones to come to. Yeah, but yeah, but Riot has like League of Legends and I don't even do they even have a store.

No, it's just a client. Ubisoft has a client that is slowly dying a painful death, but they always have like, you know, they've got called.

Is that they did they do call? I've lost track of all. I don't even know, but not real gamers here. Sorry, not real games. Yeah, I just played out of two. Jack X.

Jack. Olds were just gaping versus K3. Is that a separate launcher for that? They're just launchers. Yeah.

Big news price increase. Oh, it's gold runescape. I know you're very upset about that market. Yeah. And that was about the same as well.

Yeah. Worth it. Wait, same as well. How much is it? 15 a month. What?

Damn.

For old school kids game.

The game is a banger man. It's been around for so long.

“It's still getting awesome updates from that.”

Have you played the old school? Yeah, yeah. Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon. Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon. Have you ever had a dream?

It's just Pokemon. Yeah. Pokemon is like, it's, if animal crossing and Minecraft, like had a baby and then added Pokemon to it. The dialogue is very funny. I bought it and I regret it only because I realize I don't like games like that.

However, the people are posting screenshots on like all over social media and is really freaking funny. I'm obsessed. The AI, I threw up. The Pokemon just like talking to each other and like we're just going on is really funny. The K.O. girl has a southern accent for some reason.

Magic Carps says yo a lot. Oh, this is like animal crossing. It's animal crossing with Pokemon, but everything is block based so it's kind of Minecrafty. And you can make like mine cards and stuff. So it's literally like person shooter.

Yeah, with guns. Anyway, I was funny. The other day I saw, I was like trying it out and then on my switch, I saw like Adam is playing Yeah, and I just texted him, yeah, me too. And he said, wait, what?

And I was like, what are you talking about? I was like, what are you talking about? I'm playing this game. Anyway, that is so back here at Baseball's coming out in July. I just had to get Marquez back into the conversation here.

Sorry, I'll get to all that once I'm done power washing various things. That's just right. Power washing later. Yeah. So yeah, okay.

“Well, with that, I think that we're going to do one more little break.”

We'll take it back with one more story that Marquez can raise about for a very long time. Yeah. But first. Yeah. Trivia dude.

Trivia dude. So we were talking about the onerphone to low robot boy. Uh, but we compared it. I don't know if this was on camera off camera. People in the edit will know.

We compared it to Wally. You're the one in the edit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, people watching later will know more.

Oh, yeah, because I don't know if I'm keeping it in it. But anyway, we spoke about it. We spoke about it and compared it to Wally. Yeah. What does Wally stand for?

One point per correct letter. Like politically? Politically. What is he stand for? Oh.

Yeah. Returning to nature. I sure just wrote that. Second amendment. That joke.

Wally stand for. I didn't even know. Wally was never known. Wow. Well, I'll be guessing.

And we'll be guessing around here. Uh, we'll be right back. All right, welcome back. Uh, something really big happened last night. Um, by the time you listened to this, it was a couple nights ago.

We recorded it on Wednesday. Uh, Tuesday night, uh, historic performance happened. And I was talking to you about this a little bit. And David, I don't know if you've seen this. But I do think this is a great opportunity to explain something in tech terms here.

Okay. So yeah. What happened last night was. Bam out of bio of the Miami Heat. His name is Bam.

His name is Bam. Cool.

Uh, scored the second most points ever by a single player in a single NBA game.

Bang. By himself, he had 83 points last night. That's almost the entire score. Perfect. Wow.

So that's crazy. If you watched the game, what happened was I was, I was sitting at the table last night. And I, I was, I opened up YouTube and there was a highlight reel at the top of my feed. That said, Bam out of bio scores 31 points in the first quarter. And I was like, what?

It's like clicked it. And I watched it. And I was like, these are unbelievably, like he's just, he got super hot.

And I went about the rest of my night.

“And then I got a notification on Slack like an hour later from Alex.”

He said, tune in to Bam out of bio. He's got 79 now. And so I go on YouTube TV and I'm like, I have to watch the heat game. But I don't have the heat game on YouTube TV. It's just the Celtics game Celtic spurs, which is probably also an interesting game. But, and then I hover over it.

And it's players and red jerseys. And I click on it. And they have literally left that game to broadcast the last few minutes of Bam out of bio. They said it last to this record. Yeah, all the time.

They did this for Kobe's last game. Okay. So yeah, they literally left the Celtics broadcast to watch Bam score 83. So I watched the last two minutes of that game. And it was hilarious to watch.

“Because everyone in the arena knew that they were trying to get the record for Bam.”

Oh. And everyone on the other team is hell bent on making sure Bam doesn't get the record against them. Cause that is like a star against your franchise. And so it was funny watching him just like catchable a half-core, get triple-teamed. And then just try so hard to dribble with three people on him and chuck up a shot and get some free throws.

It wasn't the prettiest 83 points. Okay. And it's also by Bam out of bio. Who is probably not the person you would expect to set the number. Because Waltz.

Bam. Willed Kobe. Bam Kobe. So yeah, Will Chamberlain and like the what 70s, 60s. Had a hundred points in a game.

It wasn't even on camera. There's many recollections of this and there's a new thing about article. And there's a picture of Will with a hundred but no one got the picture didn't. Nobody alive today watched that, right? But Bam out of bio and modern MBA most has ever seen.

So in tech terms, trying to figure out how to explain how anomalous this was.

“So what do you have to explain the type of player?”

Yes, how many points that is in a game and how hard that is to do. And I guess that's pretty much the only two things you really need. And how reasonable he likely will be to ever happen again. Mm-hmm. And the conclusion I came to was and this is shout out to Adam for helping me figure this one out.

This would be like if we turned around and said Ellis. What's your iPhone's battery percentage right now? And you still had the 12 mini. And Ellis goes this is actually day four of me using the iPhone 12 mini. Well, like what do you mean it's day four?

And he goes yeah I've got 12% left but this is my 70th hour of using this phone. And we're like how how is that even possible?

Ellis seems like well I woke up on the first day and I used my phone for a little bit.

And then I put it an airplane mode and I didn't really use it after that. So the first half of day was legit. And then the second three days were just him going I want to just see how far I can make it. At the expense of my own sanity and like daily quality of life. But I just want to see how long it'll go.

And now there's a benchmark result saying that the iPhone's 12 mini has the longest battery life of any phone recorded history. And we're like that seems a little bit crazy. What's the asterisk and then you go oh it's because he was. He was the asterisk for the basketball guy. The asterisk for the basketball guy is I watched that first quarter highlights and then I watched the fourth quarter. The first quarter highlights are like oh my god he's balling out and the other teams like yeah he is balling out but you know what can you do you know or two best offenders are sitting.

And then you watch the fourth quarter and it's like. Everyone knows to stop him from getting the ball but he gets the ball anyway and he dribbles to half court and just chucks up a shot and he gets fouled and he gets two free throws. And he attempted 43 free throws. Which is the new most free throws ever attempted in an MBA game in order to achieve that. He went 7 for 22 from 3. He shot less than 50% for the game.

He still got 83 by himself, which is really good. The next highest player on his team got what 12 or something. 18. But he just intentionally get himself fouled at ton of times. Yes. In the last quarter yes and it was tough. It wasn't like bad to watch because it was still entertaining his health to watch this guy who everyone knows has a chance at the highest number to go try to get it. But now we know what it looks like when a player actually tries even though they're up by 20 even though he didn't have to stay in the game.

Coach was like you know what go get your 80 and he did it and now we got to see what it looks like. He's not like an asterisk but like now was the team intentionally giving him the ball a bunch to try to let him do this.

So by the time he had 60 something at the end of the third quarter everyone was trying to get him the ball every time.

Okay. Yeah. There's a really great video by I've brought up Jamie high roller on this channel before he does like basketball analysis videos for fun. Literally last week he just did a video on will we ever see an MBA player get 100 again.

He was a dominant player there was no answer for him by the other team. He also played every minute of every game for the entire season which will never happen again.

“Oh and if you are going off at a rate of 25 points per quarter usually your teams crushing the other team and you just sit for the last quarter because you're up by too much.”

You don't have to play anyway. So you need it to be a close game for you to stay in the game long enough to actually keep putting up points. Yeah. So we're you know Luke a Donald rich at 73 Joel and B had 70 Devon Booker at 70 we've had 70's down here those are your players. Yeah, none of whom are next players. You know it's not impossible it might happen didn't cat cat had 60 something but as a timbre. Yeah, it's a timbre rule. So yeah, it's it's really hard to get those perfect sets of circumstances to ever happen again and we just got a glimpse at like what if they just leave him in and it's like.

Just I want to show you later the highlights of the last quarter where he dribbles to have court and three people sprint at him and he just throws the ball up and gets foul then he gets two more free throws. What made it foul him because they are like because they were like you you have 65 points right you are not scoring again. You are not scoring again and the entire team's game plan is to force you to pass it to someone else. So we're going to triple team you and half court to make you to pass it to someone else and instead of passing it he shoots it.

Okay, and he gets fouled and he got 83 what was the final score. Final score always 150 to 129 that's a crazy high score it is the the other asterisk is that the Miami heat are a real basketball team. Yeah, the team they were playing is the Washington Wizards who the math the coaching like staff purposefully made the team as bad as they could be so they could lose as many games as possible. Why? Because the more they lose this season the better the get picks. Yes, and the hoping that so literally the two best players on the Washington Wizards tri-ung and Anthony.

Oh my god Anthony. That works. Okay, that was crazy.

“The two best players on the Washington Wizards Anthony Davis tri-ung are not playing basketball right now allegedly they're like injured.”

But they're like not. Did they get in trouble for doing stuff like this?

I never just got in trouble and they're supposed to like you know set the record straight.

But yeah, so that's the other reason is like they're not playing like a team that is like trying to win the basketball games. But they were still triple teaming him to try to stop him. That was that was because of the end they were like we don't want to be the people that got lost like this, but like. Yeah, so they were fine to lose they just didn't want to lose like. They didn't want to be.

The players do not want to lose right the players are always going to go out there and do their best. So the coaching staff responded by only putting the worst possible players on the court. That sounds like a sounds like a movie where the the coaches are trying to get them to lose, but they end up coming back through the final. Yeah, it happens sometimes it's really, it does happen sometimes two tanking teams play each other and they're both trying to lose.

“But the players want to win, but the teams have to lose.”

Actually, Mark has it's even worse sometimes attacking team plays the Philadelphia 76. But I have three questions. Yes. This one I should know points in basketball are only baskets right assist don't count for points.

That's a separate step. Yes. Easy one second question was.

I have it up how many assists do you think they're not a bio have that right. Meaning he asked the ball. You're still too high. You hadn't three. Damn.

Wow. Yeah. Who was the home team? Miami. Okay. You're in Miami. This is cool and it happens that are in a way team and the away crowd just gives up on trying to win and starts cheering for people on the other team.

So that would have been cool. Third question and this is an opinion for you guys, but what really good the last time we talked about basketball is Bam as a player. Compare him to a phone. Bam is an Olympic gold medalist.

He's really good about it. The same flip as a gold medal, too. He's an awesome star, but in terms of who you would expect to set this record it's not me. So I wanted because we did CJ DJ McCollum. He was the. See how my phone three.

Grover loved that. So yeah. Grover's listening. Who is Bam as a phone? It's a good question.

So if you're we have to set like what we expect from the phone if you're expecting what is the highest benchmark score from a phone. That would be like you just pulled up a flip or it's just going to say pickle if you're going to. The pixels fine, it's not bad. It's like one of the top five basins or whatever, but it would be like a pixel setting of all time high as benchmark score. It'd be like a pixel 10 having 256 base storage.

Yeah, like a tensor. It'd be like so he's a pixel base pixel 10. It's a tensor chip specifically setting a high benchmark score.

Yeah.

“Or like it's a good phone and you would expect it to do well.”

But you wouldn't expect it's better than media 10.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not it's one of the better ones. Yeah. But wow.

It's like good enough that it's kind of boring. Yeah. Okay. So he's boring. Is he short?

No. He's a he's an off star. He's just not like his previous career high before this was less than half of 83. It was 41. Which is pretty good.

A lot of MBA players are all stars and can get 41. A lot of players average 30. Nobody gets 83. Well, make sure an all star. And all star means you are one of the best, you know, seven player.

I guess it's like 14 players. Yeah. That's 14 players. You get votes. For that year.

For that year. Yeah. So yeah. He's a great player. But nobody thought.

Fun fact that Ellis found out that you know where Bam is from. You jersey. Yeah. Is he really? Yeah.

And Bambargers from Pennsylvania. I know who that is. You don't know who that is. Bamboo. You know where Bambargera.

I've never. Do you know Jackass? Yeah. The old show. Yeah.

Yeah. There's no doubt the famous guys from that. He's the most famous from that. Him and Johnny Knox. He's the Johnny Knox.

You vote on Johnny Knox. Bam got his own TV show on MTV. That lasted like quite a few seasons.

I've never heard of that.

And his brothers in the band, CKY. I feel like if I show you a picture of him, you'd be like, oh, I've seen it. Wait, sorry. Bam. The reason I probably have brain damages because of.

Bam's search engine optimization is cooked now. Yeah. Bambargers fell off. Well, he fell here. Never seen this guy.

Skateboarder. He's like the best skater in the Jackass crew. Yeah. I guess I've seen a lot of Steve though. I just want to say 14 year old me is so hype right now.

We just covered basketball, phones, bambargera. Like that kid is living. Yeah. It was a good time. Anyway, I hope now David you.

You can appreciate the insanity of what happened yesterday. That's crazy. I want to go watch the replay of the game. I might watch the highlights. I want to show you the last three minutes without like a highlight cut just so you can appreciate it.

Just so you can see what it looks like. Yeah. When everyone in the building is like, do not let that man score.

And he's like, oh, my score.

It's so funny. So good. Just going to say when Adam and I walked in and saw that Mark has was watching the somehow already uploaded RDC world once. That's what I was going to say.

Yeah. Mark Phillips. Thank you. Thank you for for accommodating every great basketball moment. This is as soon as something happens in the NBA. I'm like, what did he say?

Last question.

“How many points would he have had if you had 100% free throw percentage?”

There's like over. He had like forty three and a half. I can answer that. Yeah. You missed seven.

So he would have had 90. I think all basketball players should have 100% free throw percentage. Okay, bro. That's right. I like that.

That's my not basketball team. I like that take. It's called a free throw. It should be free points. But you'd be surprised how bad some of them are at free throw.

I am surprised. Yeah. I don't know. What's your hockey comparison? All hockey players should make, I guess there's no like penalty shots in hockey.

No, there are. But it's against a goalie. So a basket is bigger than I mean a goal is bigger than a basket. Yeah, but the goalie tries. I can smaller.

Ergo, they should make every one. That'd be like if I think about free throw had a one on one defend. Yeah, it's not like it's not like a giant volume knob comes up and blocks the entire goal. Okay. It's different.

The Subaru UI would be a great goalie. That's how you round the spot. That's how we end right there. I like their 38 notches, but just remove the numbers please. And also make it smaller.

I'm dreadable. All right. So Subaru was the biggest bad guy in this entire podcast. The blue. Well, meta was competitive.

Yeah, meta meta meta. It's close though. I know what I said. It was close. Met idea you're spying on millions of people with other consent.

But my Subaru volume knob three seconds. Okay. I need a marker. Why? Because it's trivia.

Yeah, baby. Oh, other little last thing. And I guess we probably should have said this when the podcast when we started. This episode is going to be dropping while we're live. That's my God.

We forgot to mention it again. Yeah. So it doesn't matter because if you're listening to this podcast. We're already on stage. We're on stage.

Or we're leaving this stage. But what if you already have South, South, South? You just don't. Oh, right. And watch this.

Yes. If you're not. By the time this comes out, we will be on stage. If you are watching us out, so that's not South, South, South, South has. And watching this episode at the same time.

I salute you. Then I need you to yell. I forgot us right now. I need you to scream. Yeah.

“It will be a part of the, I think Keith Lee is after us.”

If they stay around for that, this is well over an hour alone. So if you've made it this far, we're not on stage anymore. They've asked for it. I won't say.

Whoa.

I don't remember the question.

I remember the question. You, I know. What was the camera company that? Yeah. Who's partnering with honor on a robot function?

I almost said that. And then the answer. What's on the honor? Your honor. Your honor.

Your honor.

“I remember being in the briefing and hearing that and being like,”

Hmm. Another legacy down the drain. The camera companies going with the phone companies is the new, the car company. First like it. Well, I used to be McLaren and Porsche.

Yeah. Porsche. How are you saying? I don't know. Yeah.

Jack and Bosie. Flip them. All right. Everyone got it right. The answer is Ari.

I knew it first. By the way. Just sure you did. We're all very proud of it. Anasonic had an R.E.

LUT collaboration.

After that correct answer, the score.

Mark has with 17. Andrew with 19. David with 21. Ooh. I can drink.

Nice. But don't. As you sip. That is alcoholic. His color is amazing.

The honor of our own. We've compared it to Wally. But what does Wally stand for? That is the question. One point per correct word.

Wow. I'm going to get really far behind now. Ah. Maybe maybe not. What?

A lovable little Ellis. Wow. That's good. How long have you been holding that in? Just not.

I just came to me. Well, the top. Thank you. Amazing. I'm really good at acronyms.

Why are they goes like eggs? They hurt you step on. I don't know. Nice. All right.

What am I going to read? What do you got? All right. Who wants to go first? I wrote walk walking.

I guess it doesn't walk at all.

I was going to say you. You contradict yourself in your. I know. Walking autonomous. Wow.

Levelable. Legolas. E. Nice. No points for David.

Andrew, what'd you say? I wrote. We all enjoyed. But we. W.A.

L.L. E. Enjoy. Clever. But no, that's clever. Mark God, nobody's getting points.

I wrote what and lovable little engineer. But is the end? Is the end, right? It is not right. Damn it.

I had to remember that there. The correct answer is waste allocation load lifter. Earth class. Earth class. It's in the movie.

Wait. I know. A child. Earth class. Well, it's earth dash class.

It's like earth. We just get to make words. One word by putting a dash. I was going to get to you. Yeah.

“I just had earth and I would remember that he was a trash compacter.”

So waste allocating waste allocation load lifter. Well, lifter. Earth class. Next time you guys are at bar trivia. You're going to kill this.

What was the. I already forgot. Eva. Is that a. He.

It was also one. I forgot what it is though. My dad ran out because it's going to bother me. While he kind of talks like. Like E.T. Eva's extraterrestrial vegetation evaluator.

There it is. Oh, yeah. Because she finds the little flower, right? Yeah. He.

Because she found the apple. Sorry spoilers. Vintage for the Bible of some kind. Wally is Microsoft and Eve is Apple. Nice.

Which he's all. She's all like smooth and curved. And he's all like lucky. Too late. I have already depicted you as the front.

Wally robot. And myself as the sleek. But. Anyway, that's that's been it for this week. I was like, we obviously went full circle.

If any NBA players are listening to this, please try to beat 83 against tanking teams all year. It's going to be so fun to watch and come on the podcast.

“And also, yes, come on the podcast talk ball.”

If if you break the record, you can come on the podcast either way. You want bam to come on the podcast? Sure. What about? What if he had bam and the guy that they traded that everyone was like,

Oh. Do it. Do it. Shit. There's an asterisk that we do not have a green room here at Waveform Studio.

We. This studio could probably barely hold someone who's over 65. It's tight. Dude, I'm right here. Dude, fine.

Yeah, I'm the shortest one on this freaking podcast. David 67. I'm 67. No. No, see you.

All right. Thanks. Thanks for watching. Thanks for joining us. Maybe at the live show at South by Southwest.

If not, we'll see you back for regularly scheduled programming. See you later. Peace. Wait. From a spruce by Adam Molina.

No, sir. And a partner of our community. Podcast Network. We're going to try out your music as great as I've been. So.

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