Barry Hulse's 10-Year Ordeal in India's Deadliest Prisons

Now, because you did something wrong, not because you made a terrible choice or crossed

“the line you knew you shouldn't cross, but someone else had, and let you take the full.”

Your freedom is taken from you by forces you can't control, can't reason with, and can't find. You know you're innocent. You know it with every fiber of your being, but the people with the power, the ones with uniforms, the badges, and more importantly, the keys, where they're telling you something

different. They're saying you're guilty, and there is nothing you can do about it. You can't scream your way out of it, you can't fight, you can't lash out, because all of that will just make it worse. All of that just confirms what these people already believe about you.

I deal with these stories constantly on my other show one minute remaining. The anguish of innocent people trapped in the American justice system desperately trying

“to prove what they know to be true while battling against a legal maze so complex it feels”

like another language completely. The frustration, the helplessness, the slow psychological torture of being powerless against the system that was supposed to protect you. But now imagine something even more terrifying. Imagine it literally is another language.

And another culture, another country, thousands of miles from home. From anyone who knows you, anyone who can help, and you're told you'll be spending not months, but years in prison. In conditions you can't fathom, under laws you don't understand, how would you cope, how would you survive, how do you adapt when everything, your freedom, your identity, your

very sense of reality has been stripped away, based on something you didn't do. Well, that was the reality for Barry Holtz. Oh, we are. There he is. There he is.

Have you heard me name? I've got your loud and clear, my friend. How are you? How has your day been met?

“Barry found out the answers to all those questions in the worst way possible, with almost”

10 years inside in prison. Seeing the fall for someone he thought he knew, at an odd deal that would test every limit of human and children's. ♪ Morning the sky ♪ ♪ I'm looking at the moon in the sky ♪ ♪ The shooting calm as the surprise but I can't sleep ♪ ♪ Or am I mine ♪ ♪ I'm trying to fight war in my mind ♪ ♪ I don't know who's the winner

but tonight but today ♪ ♪ Chapter 1, I thought it was nothing ♪

India is home to over 1.4 billion people, as a country's stooped in history, faith, as

well as chaos. The streets are busy, the traffic is wild, it's hot and humid, but with beaches, mountains, hills and coastline all jammed into a relatively small geographical area. The climate is quite diverse. It's a country that around 40,000 tourists will visit each year.

And a man from Manchester in the UK was one of those many who loved India. Little did Barry know that India would end up going from his little piece of paradise to his utter hell. I used to travel to go up in India quite a lot from around 2001. First went there, I loved the place, the cold jar of the beaches, and I loved it because

it was so cheap and quite tight. So if you were in a soldier, like a bit of a paradise for me, you used to travel there,

like that once a year, basically with Christmas period, I used to go with different girlfriends

from the members, whatever. Goa is a state in Western India with coastline stretching along the Arabian sea. It's got a long history as a Portuguese colony prior to 1961, and it's evident in its preserved 17th century churches and the areas tropical spice plantations. Goa is also known for its beaches.

It is a very popular tourist destination. As Barry says, he travelled there quite a bit, going with family, girlfriends and the occasional mate. And one particular year, he in a mate decided to take a trip together. Was this a person you'd known for quite a while, or was it just someone recently?

you know, who's quite a paler.

“With the trip to India, was it you that suggested going or was he already like going to”

India? How did that all come about that he went with you? Well, what I'd actually happened was each other to India the year before we've made, and the following year at the Christmas, we went for a couple of weeks over there, not things no of embezzan, then the following year, like I said, 2006, I was over with my girlfriend, people

for the same Christmas period, you'd be a biscoer friend, he was staying in another area, but we met a few times and I'd drink someone not, even though I'd been quite a few times, I wasn't not familiar with a place, you know, in London, you know, just used to tell the beaches. The year before I travelled with him and I took home a few ornaments, like a bulldog and

like an elephant. I had the ornaments, you know, just gifts for the family and that customs, at the airport, the charging light over on good pound for them, you know, to get them free because of the weight.

“So this guy, my friend, suggested that the post office is a lot cheaper.”

So just a bit of friendly advice from Barry's mate that he keeps in the back of his mind as they continue about their holiday fun, enjoying the sun, the beaches, and the crystal blue waters of the Arabian sea. One day, the friends decided to head off to visit a local market called 'An Juno Market'. Described as 'delightfully chaotic', the flea market is billed as one of the best places

to visit in Guller, a treasure trove for those who love to shop. With thousands of stalls adorning the market every week, and Barry picks up a few items. And we brought a few like organic greens and ceasures and incense sticks and loads of bits,

basically because we assisted at a stall as well, so she used to sell them on as well.

So basically we're saying why you took them on, I mean, I'm not going to say, well, pay the extra for the weight. So we said, no, no, no, it'll only cost you five pound at the post office. Remember where it is it?

“So don't impose the mind, it's a blingolid detail, and next day brought the declaration”

from a film that I was inside, a passport copy, a given the papers, basically, and that was up for me. Come on, couple of weeks later, it was sort of in sort of saying, if you receive your gifts and stuff for your buck was like, no, so can't understand why I'm not received them. So whenever you're on the value, the value may be 50 pound of every thing.

So it didn't really think nothing more about it now. Now then you heard a rumor, so I've been fed by that because I've come on in the journey where I heard a rumor from friends and stuff saying, he put some sleeping tablets in your bucks. Now, by saying now, I just thought, it's for a few steps and because you buy them over the

cover, basically, in the farmers that we used to get Viagra, I'm used to buy a few steps from

the farmers because it's, you know, it's just something that you can buy over the account. I'm not thinking it was a, you know, it's not how to win. It's not okay. It's not okay.

You know, so basically, I just, I just thought, I don't know if we've lost them, it's not a problem. The drug that he's made was rumored to have chucked in with his parcels home was diazipin, which for those who are unfamiliar, it's essentially valium that people can use as an aid to help them sleep.

Here in Australia and many Western countries around the world, diazipin is a drug that you can only get with the prescription from your doctor. But in India, at the time, the buzz was visiting, it was happily sold over the counter. As he mentions, he thinks nothing of it and goes on about his life. And in March, he heads back to India.

Now, the declaration from a field out yet to a field where you stay in, so the whole tell it was staying out, it's staying in the same hotel in the march, your money arrived, three months after, I had a letter from the receptionist, the given letter, I opened it, it was

a letter from the customs in Mumbai, saying basically, they've been misdeclared, the goods

and inside these sleeping tablets, if you want it, if you want it, collect them, come to Mumbai, which is like a three hour fly out 12 hour drive or something. You can collect e-gones, but if you want these tablets, you need proof of purchase, basically, I'm additional licensed to say that you can get allowed to have them to export or whatever you're going to do with them.

So I was just through the paper in a way, it was far, it was nothing. Barry continues on with his holiday as planned, and then heads home. He says when he gets home, he did try and get in touch with his mate about the letter he'd received, but he says this guy had gone over to Ireland and he couldn't reach him. However, yet again there was no issues that Barry needed to worry about, he thought, he threw

He would return again to India both in 2007 and 2008.

“He and his mother had decided to go in on a property together in India, type of investments”

like holiday home that they'd purchased off plan. It was like 26,000 pounds so you could pay over five years, so both our savings were put in money in every year, here we go over a bit. We'd buy this property of plans or things, so 3,000 nine, the property was ready. I went over a week on my own, so furnish it, basically. And I went over in the November, I went home the on this time.

So Barry lands as he always did in India, excited, his apartment is finally ready to take possession of, he's going to have a holiday and furnish his new place.

He grabs his bags and makes his way to immigration, as he steps up to the desk, he hands his passport over. Little did he know that there was a lookout circular against his name in every airport in India. A lookout circular is essentially a letter used by authorities in India to check whether a traveling person is wanted by the police. And this one against Barry's name had been in place since 2006.

“"It's like there was a big terrorist in all the airports we've been in India."”

"But you'd never been stopped previously." "No, maybe three or four times a travel back over, even though it's a human error, they'd not notice that to live up." "There is a, you know, guys, one is for something." "And then that's where the nightmare began." He's taken to a side room and he says it all starts out quite civil. He's brought a cup of tea and he sits and waits for the next six hours as customs officers fly in from Mumbai to pick him up.

He's nervous, of course, but he knows he's done nothing wrong. Well, they'll get to the bottom of this and they'll have it all straightened out by the afternoon. And he'll be back to his holiday and he's new apartment the next day. Well, the officers arrive to inform Barry that he needs to travel with them to Mumbai. And he's soon on another plane that afternoon.

"Yes, so basically they come over and they explain on the plane now.

This is about sleeping tablets. There's it perhaps sleeping tablets to them. So, but two and two together. And then it was worrying about the concert set.

“How many was in these boxes that he said, you know?”

So, we landed there, we got insedicated and there's a few slacks about and stuff. But I heard some how the story isn't the prison where they left security testicles. But you know, the structures and all sorts, you know, it's so archaic, you know. So, back in the day, these countries, there was fireman, it believed, you know, they believed what there was telling them, you know, this is a dream for what's happened.

And then they only seemed like one pass, and then they found the silver pass. So, you know, so they said, you know, this number one and then they just started went crazy. I was intending to get it to five in the morning and then sort to the call the next day. I was walked around like a circus, unable, you know, everyone's stared and implying in. And then it was just so bizarre.

And I couldn't say she can get a liar first before you make a statement or you make it, you know.

There you've got to make a statement and they was writing stuff down in India. And I don't know what they're writing. So, like I say, it was just, I was just in a novel world, you know, it was just so bizarre. Barry makes his statement, he's got no idea what's being written. And eventually he's given a phone to speak with a lawyer.

He speaks with a man named Taric Sion, who tells him not to worry, he will meet him at the court in the morning. That's the call, a guy runs down the stairs and he goes, "Shakes me, I'm niggas." "Okay, okay," so I said, "saddy, say, do you make gay?" "Yes," he goes up the stairs, comes down, turns about, he said, "How much have you got?" So, I dropped the 70 pounds in the room peas on that. So, I'll give it a minute, I'll do that all day.

Because in the court, sound the floorboard in the back of the court, in the old park, in the next minute, we're kind and obviously comes in the time, and he says, "But he also, I'm sad excited, when he's sad excited, even now." No, I had sad excited when, "Oh, he is." Basically, I got cheated.

Barry has his initial court appearance where Plenty has discussed, he stands there, lost, confused as to what is going on, and one earth has happened to his life. All of a sudden, he's attorney turns to him and tells him, "He's off to jail."

He said, "You're going to go to the jail." And he said, "Bit prepared."

“Basically, because it had been nothing like you've ever seen before, Jesus. You know, it's not like”

he jails in England, and it never even been to the jail in England, you know, it was the first night.

That's out. Yeah. It was a big shock, basically, yeah. I imagine obviously going into a jail as a Westerner in India, I mean, you're pretty outnumbered. You don't speak the language completely different culture. I mean, it would have been terrifying. I mean, you hear all these horror stories about normal prison. Well, now this is in, this is in India. I mean, well, I mean, he wants to look up to the prison

life. I mean, I was, it's sort of like a budget system in the first jail, which is called after all. Arthur Road. It's known for its overcrowding in human conditions,

“abysmal health facilities, rampant corruption, and sort of me.”

It's a holding facility, and maximum security prison located in one of the most crowded areas of Mumbai. Home to gangsters, murderers, terrorist rapists, and VIP prisoners. Despite recommendation by various government and judicial committees to de-conjust this prison, not much has happened over

the years. It was first built in 1926. It's counted as one of the largest and most crowded

prisons in India, which sits on around two acres of land. And it's had its fair share of violence. In fact, just three years before Barry would find himself incarcerated in 2006, there was a deadly clash between two gangs that saw many inmates injured. Many claim there is rampant corruption throughout the prison, and would say that jail officials would use old inmates to abuse and intimidate newcomers. And Barry was about to be the new guy, and he instantly struggled with the conditions.

Got your two foot mat, by six foot, like your lay on the floor. You got your washing line, where you can hang your clothes, you know, while in the better put. These barracks are made for eight to men. Rectangular stone structures, but there's two hundred and twenty men here at a time. Dearing me. Six tiles, it's only three work, and the stink, and the, you know, few rarely funds, and you can imagine the heat. Yeah, it was very, very out to adapt.

Chapter two, a prison within the prison. Although being a westerner in an Indian prison may seem like it's a death sentence waiting to happen, he says being a white foreigner he believes worked in some way to his favor, as inmates were fascinated by him, and especially his tattoos. He was touching, you know, like tattoos. I'd be there, and the village people, you know,

they don't understand anything. They've never seen TV, and they took to me arms, and

I was now going crazy. I was nearly killing everyone in the first couple of months. The very even situation, it's in a well, you've got to run down in the morning, fast get your jog, and get washed as quickly as you can, you know. So everything was just horrendous. The noise is as smells. I mean, as smells you can't describe, but it was just an absolute living night there. This is now Barry's new normal, his new health, and the worst part was he hadn't even been sent into

it. That would take years. I was only sentenced after three years, a month, and that was a fast trial. Holy shit. That was the first trial that I put on the jog. I'm assuming you don't have access to phones in there, so you can't call family and go what nurse going on. Well, money gets everything, and I'll let him not kill a cost to you 50-300 pound vote, but also I'll say the biggest

“because I'm grasp of the biggest culture of informants, they call Pabre. That's what they call”

Pabre in India. There's so many given the phones to use, and then the console, the office up could be so, so careful. Oh, it's fucking horrendous, may horrendous. In the prisons that I deal with on a day-to-day basis with my other show, one minute remaining, the prisons are all across the United States, and I hear all the time about the violence. Man and women fighting over possessions, inmates regularly being extorted for canteen and

creature comforts, gambling, and drug debts will find you in serious situations very quickly. But Barry says, it's not like that in India. You see, but in tender pull bits of the one side,

no one's to expect, but it's not like an American jail where it's full of violence. I mean, the violence happens, but it's definitely not fire, or we've got one CV channel that a lot of the fights up to lack the novel water, because he pulled people and I'm a pop to me out of and that till he washed from as well, so they don't be trying to get the drink, trickles of water,

and fight me and next, and it bang on the net, and the first few days, well, I need to get this

full net, but after it gets higher, higher, higher, higher, higher. So super intense, and to me, right, I'm going to put you in a new area. I went to this new area, and one of the guns was there

“from the, from the bomb blasts in 2006, so I think on 93 bomb blasts, this was, it's almost”

tougher to also. A series of 13 coordinated blasts ripped through Mumbai, leaving over 250 people dead, 700 others injured, and property worth 28 crores. This morning, two decades after the series of blasts ripped across Mumbai, leaving 200 people dead, the top court is all set. The special terrorism and disruptive activities are caught on Friday, renowned its long-pending decision in the 1993 Mumbai blasts case. The tada found Mr Fadoza,

Feroz Khan, Tahir Mochin, Karimullah Sheikh, Abu Salaib, and Riyasid Duki, guilty of conspiracy and

murder activities. It's very big done, it was a military net, basically,

from the jail, you see, pay the gas, you see, get McDonald's in some days, all types of stuff it was crazy. So it was living nice life for three bombs, then that building was falling down.

“They had 24 hours running while, and then it was such a massive, massive commodity.”

It was a big thing that he can have rather than have it once in the morning, once at night, and have lot whenever you want, you know. He would eventually be moved to another area of the prison that had been built, especially, to house a terrorist. Now, underbarot is in India, a prison within a prison circular structure where they can have a godwalking down the middle. It's for high security prisoners. There was a guy called Agma Casa,

there's the law on survive in terrorists from the 2000 and eight Mumbai telemeta. It began just after nine o'clock on the evening of November the 26th, when the gunman landed at the gateway of India in inflatable boats. On Wednesday, the 26th of November 2008, ten members of a militant Islamist organization from Pakistan began to carry out a series of 12

“coordinated attacks across Mumbai. There were last four days.”

Heavenly armed Indian troops, clad in black, have been reading hotels in Mumbai, trying to free hostages and confront the terrorists who plunged the city into chaos. Over the course of the four days of terror, more than 170 people would lose their lives. We will take the standest possible measures to ensure that there is no repetition of such terrorist attacks. On the final day, the attackers were cornered in two hotels that would be surrounded

by marine commandos and members of the NSG Commandos. The security forces stormed the hotels and nine of the ten attackers were killed. Across the peninsula, troops secure in Naruman House,

but the bodies of a number of hostages are found in the debris. And finally, on Saturday

in a last maneuver by Indian security, the siege at the tags was brought to an end. The last remaining gunman had been dealt with, but scores of people had lost their lives. Anyone to survive and be apprehended was Ajma Kasab. Ajma Kasab is the only gunman to have been captured alive. Charged with waging war against India, his trial is underway in Mumbai and could end in a death sentence. Authorities would build a bomb proof barrack within

Arthur Road to ironically protect him while he was tried, and eventually would be sentenced to death. That death sentence was carried out in 2012. So, he got moved out basically. So, I got moved in there and then over the next three years, I was in there in there on the baroque and I met a servant, some messy gangsters that got actually died from Thailand, become one of my closest friends. His actual opposite was in the next area and I was

fed with them as well, I'm sorry friends. They lived in my death. And it was fine, no, because I'm not in there, you know, in their politics, you know, some of the people I met polywood stars, I don't know if you've heard a polywood. Well, yeah, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, some of them were getting locked up because they're superstars in that country. Well, they have a couple of them in for rape cases. There was one in front of Batman to suit me side for one girl because he dumped

you know, they'd offered somebody a woman, six months later, they didn't have money, also they

“get dumps for rape. That's why the judicial system is so back. So the chief justice was on the”

TV one time actually crying. He said, we will never clear the backlog because these people in jail

for the sentence one of years and the sentence is maybe on the seven. For rare sites, in recent memories, the chief justice of India, getting emotional and in tears appealing to the government to increase this strength of judges, which has been in court storage for over three decades. Americans who dream court decides 81 cases per year, the entire Supreme Court, average disposal of an Indian judge is 2,600 cases. Barry is doing his time, waiting for trial and he says as he's waiting,

every two weeks, the prosecution are bringing forward more and more witnesses. So basically every two weeks, we get a witness. So the produced 16 witnesses from somewhere. So basically at the post of this master, so there's no CCTV, you have me going there, obviously because I didn't go in there

“for the captioning on a bit. Meanwhile, the handwriting is mine. I filled it out. I told them that”

so they didn't need a handwriting expert, but they brought like their punch witnesses. So your punch one I'm punished to, so you will get the box and say that's the box. I will take the tape off, punch free, we'll set the bags out, punch full, set the store file up, punch five, we'll make sure it's

that. So they have all these witnesses basically. And all the guys are speaking to be saying,

now, they're saying, "Chu Chiang, I mean, like you'll go, you'll go." You've got a small case, it's no fringe, you know what I mean? So when three years, eight months, every two weeks, wait for your dad, some sad they've been all guards, escort, sometimes a judge won't be present, the prosecutor won't be present, are you, you know, why you're mainly what it'd be present, because he's got that many people. It was just a shit joke, basically. So actually,

finally enough, the judge only saw me know, when they did get sent and sent to me, like, so thank people of the prosecutor and the defense for doing such a speedy trial.

And you know what, is that a sentence is to 20 years, but in an era, he said,

a sentence is to 10 years for possession and 10 years for export. I wasn't caught in possession, and I wasn't exporting them. Well, they obviously have presumed that it in his eyes. It took all day. You know, with mum, obviously England's five and half hours behind, me mum was open for a young way for the verdict, you know, we've been waiting for three years, a mum probably family, and they asked the judge for the phone call, and he said, no, absolutely asshole.

I just think he heard him talking once about the ranch, and let's sit behind at the back, well, let's speak, and I'm a picture bit of him, the open, and I know what they talk about, and the prosecutor and my lawyer, it'd be pulling each of his cult sales and that I've been getting it through my fucking life, and you're all right, well, and each of his things

“flicking his ear and that, you know, behind the judge's back. I think I could cut the school kids.”

Well, yeah, and he's fine, give it on to someone else, he's like, yeah, it's my life, yeah, and you give me 10 plus 10. Now, there's no provision in Indian law, so do a consecutive sentence, and you shouldn't be concurrent against about to the jail, about 10 at night, that's a form if I'm like, look, I was with Sançana, she's herself, there could be cancer in her form, form him all. I was saying, look, I've got 10 years, but there's a way out, you know,

there's another way out, I can get parole and we can do so, because he knew some certain people, big people. So there's another way out, don't worry about it. Barry has received a 20-year sentence, but he didn't at the time realized this. He believed he'd been sentenced for 10 years for his crimes. 10 years for possession and 10 years for exporting. What Barry didn't realize at the time was this sentence was to run

consecutive, which means back to back. Serve 10 years, and then you serve the next. Now, in many jurisdictions around the world, you will get multiple sentences, however, they are to be served concurrent, so at the same time, for instance, you may get three years for a robbery six years for having a firearm and 15 years for an attempted murder all to run concurrent. So the most you will serve is 15 years. Even though he was unaware that his sentence

was actually 20 years, at the time, he's still, of course, struggling with the thought of

months, I felt like 30 years, you know. So it was a big ad for, and I've gone into the

“part of number eight, and there's a guy there from London. He was in such a trip,”

that's your very English guy that I'm now up over there. And basically he said,

I'm really sorry, may, I can't believe, he's giving me a truck in 20 years and I've got 20 years, it's called the newspaper, British manga sweat years, chapter three. In isolation, you find out exactly who you are. It wasn't get time to be charged, she and everything, me, conviction, copy is, look through me, judgment, copyrava, 10 years for possession to run consecutive, not concurrent. So finish 10 and do another 10. And if I don't pay, it was about, where it's about 5,000 pound at the time rate, but she ended to pay that fine as well

that measure four years. So 24 years in essence, for 75,000 sleeping tablets.

So my options were, because we got a bilateral agreement, you can be educated back to your

“own culture, and then do 50% of the rainy sentence. It takes up to 80 month, apparently, to do.”

I would have done maybe five years total by then, and out of the 10 years, I would have done two and a half in England, but I had 20 years on paper, not 10. So I had no option whatsoever to go to the high court to buy it, the high court took six years. At this point, Barry is just shy of a decade, being incarcerated in India. Three years and eight months waiting to be sentenced to now, another six waiting for the decision from the high court. Once the high court had heard all of the evidence against him, they would take another three months to hand down the decision.

I got sentenced on the 5th of July 2013, and I got acquitted on the 5th of July 2019, exactly six years from sentenced to acquittal. And all the arguments were finished by between the prosecutor and the defense again.

“Before the judge, there was finished in, I think it was March, it's a wait for the one for the verdict.”

Must have been the worst 30 months of your life. I mean, it was the hardest day of the month. Every day is listening for the tonneye to shout out my name to say, "Tell it what beast I like, you play and you play and you bet it, you take that and you've got it." So I think every day at way, and by this point, I'd actually manage to arrange every two weeks or three weeks of phone calls, on the superintendents phone with a freeway conversation with the embassy involved. So it was

good so I was still keeping up to date because I didn't have the phone at the time. At any point, did you regret not having just gone down the route of the whole going back to the UK and doing your time there? No. Right. I'd say because, you know what I do, I try and be positive, I try and set the positives out of everything. Yeah. And it's a little bit of the universe. You know, now I can get in my hot bubble bath

and I feel like a king. I do. I can switch me light off at night. It's not on 24 hours, you know. And I just feel so privileged. It really, but when you're on, you know, for 15 to 17 hours a day, you know, on Selkha, did up my own self-love to end. You've got a lot of you time and you can find what you really are and you can sort of really stop your life and think, you know, you're only a so long than you have got to grab everything, you know, it's a long time.

Barry was finally a free man and heading home from being a prisoner for almost 10 years.

Sadly, when he arrives back in the UK, COVID hits not long after and then he would lose two of his closest supporters, not long after his release. Unfortunately, I called him all COVID it. I lost me stepfather. They'd be really 21 and then I lost me more. So I've the year later then as well. And we didn't get the time to do everything. You know, the stuff me more than done for me, I don't know, you know, she was just, she was now my angel, you know, without her, I don't know,

and just the shame that we didn't get that time, call it time, you know, for a holiday. And, you know,

bigger ups and downs and others. And, you know, obviously, what you went through was just utter insanity.

“Did you ever track down this guy, you know, that put you in this position? Well, I believe it was”

around my head. And, you know, when I come home, I was on Friday and my nose driving there, I know on a dress. Well, he's his mulls and stuff. You know, I won't like to get his family involved. And then, if I, you know, if I see it, what we're going to do, we'll end up sort of really aiming to the point where I'll get another 10 years in jail or some of our more familiar than I, and I just thought, you know what, you've got to move on. I've got to move on and, you know, because I mean,

it was chart chasing what time we went out at the time and he don't know if, you know, if you turn around us that there's a few thousand while we're like years, you've got to get yourself a different of my years. I do different things and it would have sort of softened the blow, but yeah. But like I say, karma, karma, I believe in karma, so we'll get his eventually.

“How did you go mentally sort of adjusting back into sort of normal civilization back home?”

Well, it's a funny question, it's because I always start the time. I was just me.

Now, it took me 12 months, I'd say, to sorry, it just because I still at the end of the end. That's welcome. So, you know, I was still speaking in there. We got word in the word to come out. In that culture, I mean, I come home, I sat on the floor, so I'd be, say, what was going on? You did me, I was like, oh, yeah. You did me, I was like, oh, yeah. She said to me, sleep on the floor, so that if you ask that no chance, very not to go bad.

Go right, not to go bad, it's like a baby, you did me. Yeah, listen, you just got a doctor situation. People say I could never do it and I look back of it. I used to say I could survive and people been there and they say I've been there for you. That's me. How have you done it? And then you just finally do day by day. And what if you've got the support, I don't know, you know, the look, yeah, I've had three grand kids

values in there, you know, so why it's a me then? So there's so much going for you, just call it. I used to look, another thing, there's a lot of disabilities, new people with no arms, they had to get people to wash their ass for them, you know, and they say, I'm not bad, you know,

people in there, but we're loving to be rice for three times a day, you know, because they never

“had a juicy steak and stuff, you know, so I think what you miss more, what if, you know, if you've had”

some feeling better, they say a lot more, so it's hard for people, I've experienced looks, it isn't good living, so I'll live like, like that. You'd think after his experience, he would never want to set foot back in India ever again. But strangely, he says that not long after he returned home, he felt that he would like to go back to go up. However, thankfully, he would never actually make it.

International police sent me a letter saying India had wrote to an asking for an order of service, now I asked me a letter about means, and it's basically what it'd be back in the contest, so they could challenge my high court. Oh, my quit all go. Because I got acquitted in the high court, you said, yeah, they wanted to challenge out in the supreme court, that would have took a baby another 12 years. If you got any earlier, they would have got me in that system.

Yeah, so now, when I travel, I go west, completely opposite direction. I'll be a doctor, that's both this side only on it, because even if I was going to go to Thailand,

it'd be a snake, it would be an Indian. Yeah, you would be like, yeah, you just never know me,

just never know, you know. Barry Holtz fan himself held essentially captive. Now, of course, he was being held as a prisoner by authorities that believed him to have broken the law. The conditions were terrible, and his day-to-day life was bleak. But as he said, he never faced violence, never really feared too much for his life. For him, it was the mental anguish of not knowing when he would be able

to return home to his family. It Barry's worst-case scenario that could have meant 20 years behind bars in India, a pretty heavy emotional toll. However, what would happen if you took all of that anguish, all of that emotional toll, and added the fact that you may never go home, that your

who were part of a recognized judicial system? What if they were in fact part of a known terrorist

organisation and an organisation that were known for beheadings and violence of unspeakable

“magnitudes? What if you were being held captive by the Taliban?”

He was jumped to my bed with a knife and said, "Don't worry, it's not for you. I just wanted to show you

the knife I killed in America and where I cut this throat, and on my god." Next time, what I survived.

“I am Faelic Blint. I have been told that my days and nights are on the head of the head,”

because I have been able to stay for so long and long. I stay under 924, a self-made slave-wrapping

The many dangerous human beings.

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