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YAPGANG, most people out here are playing safe, and that's exactly the problem. When you settle for normal, you're one bad day away from losing everything you thought you had. Today's guest is Elena Cardone, entrepreneur, author, real estate mobile, and the powerhouse behind one of the most influential family empires in the world.

Elena built her success along her husband, Grant Cardone, and she's here to share exactly how. Just the app classic episode Elena gets real about overcoming a turbulent past, breaking through her limiting money beliefs and stepping into her role as the queen of a multi-billion-dollar empire.

“You'll walk away knowing how to build wealth, protect your most important relationships,”

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of value on youngemproffeting podcast. Let's get right into it with Elena Cardone. Elena, welcome to Young and Profiting Podcast. Hello, how are you? I'm doing great.

I'm super excited for today's episode. Elena, before we dive into your journey, I did want to get insight from one of your most famous quotes that I found, and you say that normal is the most dangerous condition you can be because it gives you a false sense of security. So drawing on your own life experiences, I thought this would be a great way to open

app. How does normalcy generally hold people back? Well, it holds people back because you don't strive to go further and to build up an abundance. Either in mindset, finances, resources, when you think you're okay and you make sense of okay, it's detrimental because it only takes one incident to come in and wipe it all out. Whether that is an economic collapse or somebody in the family gets sick or dies or become

incapacitated, the entire system becomes threatened and can't withstand.

“So that's why I say normal is so scary because you make sense of barely getting by,”

but you convince yourself that you're just fine and you have enough, you are enough, you've done enough, and then the blanket can get pulled out from under you. Yeah, so I'd love to learn more about how you grew up. Well, like group in New Orleans, Louisiana, you know, I had a really great childhood. I was kind of a tomboy.

And then one day my best friend across the street, she perished in a fire that unfortunately I was there, I witnessed the whole thing, it was devastating to me. And because I was so young and didn't know how to kind of cope with that, I went down this dark road of self-medicating to try to just numb it and deal with it. So I feel like I wasted a lot of years trying to rather than confronting.

But out of that, what got me out of New Orleans was enacting career. I saw, okay, I can maybe succeed in enacting and modeling career. So I moved to Los Angeles at 17 years old, I knew no one, and just started to make it on my own. I thought anything is better than where I just came from, even though I love my hometown.

It was just more than I could stand having to confront seeing that burned out empty shell of a house every single time I went in and out of my home. So it just kind of got me to where I am today. I went to Los Angeles, I was an actress and an animal for many years there until I met my husband, Grant Cardone, and then we moved to Miami in 2012 and we've continued to build

our lives from here. But that's pretty much my childhood and a nutshell. For my understanding, you came from humble beginnings. How has your mindset changed about money? What are some of the things that you had to kind of disprove to yourself so that you could

become the super successful person that you are today?

I thought you had to be really intelligent.

“I thought you had to have a college degree.”

I thought people like me just couldn't have wealth because that's not what I was born into. Also, I grew up in my teen years, I joined kind of the punk rock society, you know, and in that mentality, rich people suck, they're greedy. So I had to overcome that, no, you can have wealth and not be greedy, you can have wealth

and do great things, you know, you're not a bad person if you go out and create wealth.

So I had a number of these ideas, I never thought that I could make it this far.

I never thought that I could surpass grants in money. Well, and I haven't today, let's be fair, but at least now I've opened my mind set to the possibility that that could occur. Yeah, and what really changed your mind was that when you went to LA and you saw how people lived and they had money and that kind of opened your eyes or what really flipped

that switch for you. You know, really, yes, when I went there, it started to open my eyes, I started to kind of grow up a little. I started to really align with, okay, that's not my beliefs.

“But are my beliefs that was the group think back then with that group I was attached to?”

What do I really think about money in? And then it was when I got with grants who really started to have me understand the principles of money and once I really started to understand money and how to apply it and not violate the policies on money, I started to really be able to have an abundance of it, you know, when I realized that money doesn't make you greedy, I realized when I had been thinking

money makes me greedy, no matter how high or how successful I would go, something would always

knock me back down because I had been having this mindset if I got above this, I would somehow become greedy or an evil person, you know, like money makes you evil or so I would never allow myself to break up into here, but I didn't do it intentionally, but now looking back, it was because I had already had this barrier of what I thought was the threshold and what's I crossed it, I would become this evil mean person.

So in my life, I just always had a situation come and knock it out whether, you know, it was an end of a career, an end of a job, an end of, you know, or a car needing repair, a house need to repair, or a lawsuit, or this, or that's something would come in and whack, whack, where it would build down the car for to build that up. And it wasn't until I realized, wow, that's a very limiting belief, it's actually holding

me down.

“Can I just be open to the possibility that money could make me more generous?”

And I just changed that mindset just a little bit, and then all of the sudden I got to a certain amount where I thought, wow, because I remember the day when I, I had the goal of having $60,000 in the bank, like I thought I was rich if I had $60,000 in the bank.

And I could never get to that.

Then I opened the viewpoint, then I hit the 60,000, and then I was like, oh, it's 100,000, that's the real number. And then I cracked 100,000, and then I just opened it up to, I'm just open to the possibility of money, and I don't have to make money mean all these other things, money is money, money is a currency, it's supposed to add and flow, and it's an energy, and I'm supposed to just

use it, and how can I grow and multiply it? And that's all it means, it's just a resource. I started to be able to have a lot of it. And then when I look around and I saw, wow, there's trillions of dollars. We're printing trillions of dollars.

There's no shortage of money. Why can't I just go, as if I had my bucket in an ocean and scoop up some water, you know, like no one's going to notice if I take a bucket of water from the ocean, no one's going to notice if I scoop a billion dollars out of the trillions of dollars that are out there, if I decide to take a billion or a million or a hundred thousand, it's not even going

to register. So why do I have this scarcity mindset, and why do I make it any harder than walking down to the beach and scooping up water? It's only because I'm making it harder, but once you actually understand the certain philosophies that go around money and have simple it is, and it's not complex, the more that you

can be actually of an abundance mindset and start having and attracting it. I love that. I feel like you gave us so much wisdom in terms of how we can break out of this limiting mindset when it comes to trying to make more money and not being afraid of actually achieving the success that we dream of.

I think a lot of us are actually afraid of the outcome and that's why we don't go ahead

Or you just don't know the right things. You don't have the right information, knowledge is power, right? So if you have the wrong information, what do you have? The complete opposite. So get around the right people, the right mindset, study the right people, it should be

easy. It's not difficult. So you just mentioned knowledge, right, knowledge is power. For my understanding, you went to California when you were 17 years old, which I guess means that you didn't go to college, right?

So I'd love to understand your opinion on higher education, do you think it's necessary? Obviously, there's so many entrepreneurs like yourself, you know, Steve Jobs that didn't go to college that became extremely successful, but for the average person, like, what are your thoughts in terms of higher education?

“Look, if you want to become a lawyer or a doctor, obviously, you need to go to get a higher”

education and be very specified with that particular knowledge. But for anybody else, it's hands-on experience, it's getting in the field, it's doing it, it's action. We don't ask anybody here what your qualifications are, we're interested in can you produce a result.

Can do you have the resources to self-educate, figure it out?

When Grant does a $200 million deal on an investment property that he's buying, this institutional

grade property that potential or JP Morgan or Blackstone are also bidding on, they're not asking Grant, what's your college degree, and they're not asking to see his, you know, what age did you start speaking and, you know, what degree do you have and from where and who do you know? It's no, show me the numbers in the account and how can you support this and how are

you going to take care of the asset and, you know, and can you pull this thing off? Yeah. They're not looking beyond that. So, you know, I, and Grant has said this, really, if you're going to go for higher education in a general field, go for one reason and one reason only, meet the people, know they're

in meet the, the Obama's, the trumps, the world leaders, you know, go to meet the contacts that can collaborate with you in the future. Yeah. I think that's great advice.

“So, let's move on to talking about Grant and your relationship because I think it's”

really interesting, your dynamic together and how you guys met even as an interesting story. So, why don't we start there? Can you guys, can you share the story of how you guys met? Because from my understanding, you weren't actually interested in him at first. No.

I wasn't. Yeah. We met in Los Angeles. I was on a commercial. I was shooting a commercial as a downtown Los Angeles middle of the night.

It was a night shoot and Grant was friends with the director. So, he showed up on the shoot. I see him in the trailer. It was like, hi, bye.

I never thought anything of him, you know, not my tight short, shorter than me, like, just

did not register. I was more into actors, musicians at the time, I'm in my 20s. Grant seemed like kind of a business man, just didn't register. Anyway, he gets my number from the director. You know, you're not supposed to give somebody's number from the call sheet out to a random

and the director did, and then Grant calls me and we have this disastrous phone call. He's like, oh, it was just horrible, I don't even need to get into it, but it was horrible. And I decided, okay, this is the last phone call that I'm going to have with this guy, what a joke. And I hang up the call with him and he proceeds to call me twice a month every month

for the next 13 months with no return phone call. He'd leave a message on my answering machine. But I never thought he was like creepy scary guy. It was just like a non-events, just didn't think anything of it. He wasn't stalking me.

It wasn't weird. I wasn't scared. It's just just wasn't anything I thought about, you know. And then eventually he became friends with one of my best friends at the time who I was hanging out with.

So we kind of got in the circle. So then he starts showing up at, you know, the clubs and the restaurants that I'm at and some like, well, he's not so bad after all, you know. But I still wasn't interested, but I liked that he could be around. I knew that he liked me, but he wasn't pushing himself on me.

It was just like cool. Like, I just didn't want to be put in that awkward situation, you know. And then he finally found out that I liked to shoot guns. I was 10th in California for shotguns at the time. Anyway, he left a message and he was like, hey, I rented the shooting

range, you want to come with me. And so I, that was the first call that got me to call him back. And I was like, okay, I'll go to the shooting range with you.

“And, and then that's how we kind of developed a quote unquote friendship.”

And, but he didn't push me and we hung out like that for a few months. And then one day I was like, this guy is special. He's different.

I've never had a guy like this before and what is he seeing me, like, the way I behaved

with her. But he was just patiently cool, but not in a pathetic way. Yeah. One day I just like, my eyes just kind of opened and I was like, oh, my God. Like, something really real is here in front of me.

Yeah. And I'm, you know, I was a dinner and I was like, oh, my God. And he's like, what?

“And I said, you're going to make me fall in love with you, aren't you?”

And he was like, yes. Yes. I am. And we've been together ever since. That's so sweet.

So I want to dig into something that you said, which is basically that Grant was much

different than the other guys that you were dating before. And I'd love to understand what you mean by that. What kind of men were you dating before and how did Grant stand out? Oh, gosh. Well, I dated art.

Artsy guys. Art actors, musicians, so tattoo people, one of my, you know, the first bit love of my life. Unfortunately, it was addicted to crystal meth. It led to some problems after we broke.

I mean, problems while we were together. So much so that I had to break it off with them, not because I wasn't in love with them. But because it was just so many problems and drama that it comes with somebody that's addicted to crystal meth. Yeah.

Right up with him, he ends up in jail for three years. So that's the type of people I was with. Just drama in that art scene, drugs, alcohol, rock and roll. And Grant was very different. He didn't do drugs, he didn't drink, he was a businessman, he had his money together.

He was just stable. And I just, I just didn't know that world. I had lived in Los Angeles since I was 17, you know. By the time I met him, I was in my late 20s.

And I never, I never hung out with business people.

It was always producers, actors, directors, musicians. It was always somebody in the arts. Yeah. So the reason why I asked this question is because there's more single women out there than ever right now, partially because women are doing better than men right now in general,

like more women are starting to graduate college. I think it's for every one man, it's two women graduate college. Women are starting to make more money, women usually marry up and now women are starting to have to marry down, so to speak, because they're leveling up. And a lot of women being successful actually emasculate men.

And so it's not working out like it used to be, marriage rates are down. And I guess what I'm trying to say is when you're looking for a partner, obviously nobody's perfect, right?

“I remember hearing you say like, you thought Grant was short, right?”

And that might have, if you were, you know, not open-minded, you may not have embarked

on this amazing journey that you went on because of something as, you know, superficial

archived. Right? Yeah. So I just want your guidance on that because I think, you know, I have a lot of young listeners women in their 30s.

I've men that listen to me too. And I think a lot of people are fixated on this like, perfect partner, and I want to understand from you, given that you guys are sort of like a role model couple, what do you actually need to look for in a partner? And how do you understand whether or not, you know, what you're looking for is either unrealistic

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“I don't think you should compromise what I would suggest is somebody right down, right”

you, you want to come up with perfect, you shouldn't deviate from that, right the perfect person. You know, and you're talking about trivial, I wrote over a hundred characteristics. This is before I got together with Grant over a hundred characteristics of what I wanted in the perfect man.

And it started with six to and green eyes.

Every single item on the rest of the list was Grant except for the first two six to and

green eyes. And I only said six to because I had to add other guys not want me to wear heels. It really wasn't because I had a consideration and green eyes I like green eyes. I should have just said charming and accept me from my height. You know, I wouldn't have pinched and hold me into being blind, right, because I was

looking for six to and green eyes. So what I would say is right at all down, right, you want monogamy, you want ethically ambitious, all the traits trustworthyness, monogamy, once a family, right, everything that you want, you know, that's going to build me up, that's going to support me, show active interest in the success of me, likes women and children, protects women and children,

right, everything down. I wrote all of that, has a great relationship, is in drama, is proud to have me with him, you know, blah, blah, blah, write every single thing on your list. But here's the catcher. When you write that list, because after I wrote all the list of what I wanted in a man,

because before that I was like, I'm going to be this dedicated single woman forever. I don't need a man for anything, and you know, I really thought that was going to be my life. I didn't even get married until I was 30. So, you know, and I wouldn't have until grant sort of proposed, and then I went, oh my God.

But anyway, so after you write the list of what you want, turn around, if this actually became the man of your dreams, I saw, when I wrote that list, I said, if this man actually exists, I could be with this man for the rest of my life. I wrote on there like sexually compatible, like, you know, adventurous fun, we fall in love with each other for, you know, all the stuff that I want to.

If he existed, this man existed, I could be with him. But now, if this man existed, from his point of view, from the perfect man, what are his qualities, what is he want in a woman, and I wrote them down, he would want monogamy. He would want someone who doesn't excessively drink alcohol, doesn't do drugs, wants to

You see what I'm saying? Like, is trustworthy?

“Does what they say is in a drama queen, takes care of themselves, physically, trust me,”

every man wants that, you know, don't kid yourself, don't be like, oh, he should love

me just the way. And right when he would really want on his ideal scene, and when I did that, I realized at the time, this is back in time, right, 20 plus years ago. I saw how off I was, I was, you know, excessively drinking alcohol, I was hanging out in the clubs, I didn't want a family, I didn't want to be married, it wasn't that less

that I even considered it. So then I started to go work on myself, how can I improve myself, rather than thinking I'm entitled to this perfect person, how can you get yourself in your own, you know, ethical moral code, how can you get yourself to be the woman that would that man would attract?

Do you know what I'm saying? Totally. And that's when we kind of found each other almost immediately because I became comparable magnitude to the thing that I wanted. Now, I could also speak on, you know, the immasculation and the this and the that of the

men, and also let's have the woman take responsibility for her role in that only because I've been there and I did that.

So I used to have on this strong independent powerful woman, I never needed to depend on

a man for anything, I had all my own expenses, I dated a couple of these guys, right? They lived with me, I don't need you for anything I made all my decisions, you don't tell me what to do, I'm doing this with or without you, I made more money than them. But guess what that did, that attitude of not wanting to be needed or who wants to feel like that.

I don't want to not need it. I don't want to feel in a relationship that grants going to not include me and go do whatever and whenever, so that made it so that wanted to go out and like cheap because they want to go be with a woman that does need them or care about them or, you know, is excited by them, I made it seem like I could care less.

So I don't think that it's the fact that you make more money that he masculates the man. I feel like it's your attitude toward them and not including them in on the cycle, not that

“you need to ask them how you spend your money, but it's a way that you treat them that's”

inclusive. And there's a way that y'all can come together and work out who you are as a couple, not just I am this whip or without you, who are we as a couple, who do we represent, or we the winning couple, what are our goals, what are our dreams, what do we want to accomplish together?

And then figure out who does what in the relationships based on your strengths and weaknesses, not male, female, on how you're going to get there, because if I'm the big bread winner in the family and I'm the female, but I have this guy who's supporting me and setting up and getting me everything that I need to run all the behind the scenes operation so that we, me, can get there.

He's equally as violent, you understand? So it's about figuring it out and not caring about what the outside world is, but how you each contribute to the win and to the success of both of y'all as a couple, I've actually talked to couples where the woman is the big bread winner and the guy is running the whole organization and her follow up in administration where she gets to go out and be the

artist and you know, she's a sculpture, she's a famous person, whatever, blah, blah, but you know what I'm saying? They don't have inner conflict because they have their thing worked out and so we've moved in, they're intertwined with each other, going for goals together. Yeah, I feel like this is such a great segue to talk about your own experience with Grant.

I learned that you guys had a different dynamic before the 2008 recession and after and

“I think this illustrates exactly what you're saying so perfectly.”

Yeah, well, we married in 2004 again, I had it just ingrained in me, I wasn't trying to prove a point.

Just ingrained to me to be the strong powerful independent woman never dependent on a man

for anything, that was just what was always sitting there, I wasn't spoken and just lived in me. So for the first four years, I mean, Grant and I had my goals, he had his goals. We had never come together and said, who are we as a couple, would we represent and where do we want to go together was always me, him?

So I would go out and produce and he would go out and produce and we come home and fight and battle because I was like, you're not going to tell me what to do and I've lived on my own this whole time and you don't own me just because you have more money than me and I'm not going to make you a meal because you want to meal, I'm going to make you a meal because I want to make a meal, you know, just weird psycho stuff, I mean, this is the

man I am married to and I am having issues with like making the man a meal. Like that's, that's messed up, like how about support, like just seeing somebody who's hungry, you know what I'm saying without making it mean this. So we fought each other so we build build build and kind of tear at a part at night because

going to get to be the boss who's this, who's that after 2008, different story, I'm

pregnant with our first child, we're under a lawsuit, economic collapse occurs, we're on

“the verge of losing everything financially, now what are you going to do?”

Now I had to take on the big golf and say, wow, you know what, why can't I depend on the man that I trusted and loved enough to marry, why can't I depend on him? Why does society want to say, oh, you're co-dependent, well, I am married, I am co-dependent on him, he is co-dependent on me, I show up for him, he shows up for me, I like that. I don't want to do this game alone, I want to build with somebody, I want to be able

to depend on somebody who's got my back and vice versa, I had to go through all of this in my head, you know, I believe there's strengths and numbers, you know, I believe in the power of two and the power of more, you know, so that's after 2008, I was like, okay, this is when I had the idea, who are we, where are we going, what do we want to build, what is our empire, look like in the future, was very, this was the vision, but it did not look

like that back then and I took a big risk and I said, I'm betting on you, Grant, I'm trading in the acting career, I'm going to come in and run back around support, I'm going to have your back, I'm going to make you a meal, I'm going to do whatever it takes for us to get ourselves out of this, you know, you need me to this, that boom, boom, boom, I got you, make connections, have a vision, hammer you to get going, not complain when you're out

working too hard, never say when's enough enough, just keep pushing, let's go, let's go,

“win, celebrate the wins, like, I'm going to be your cheerleader and that's what I did and”

that's when everything started to just go, boom, boom, we started to make major strides, we were no longer fighting, I had a role and he had a role and he doesn't show up 50 and I show up 50, I show up 100 and he shows up 100, that's how we do our relationship, whether we're fighting, we're arguing, we're mad, we hate each other that day, it doesn't matter, I'm showing up in the relationship 100% and so is he, and that's the way we've been able

to be so successful. Yeah, and I definitely want to get into, you know, what it means to build an empire and all that, but before we get into that, there's a recession that everybody says is coming up and so I'd love to hear your advice in terms of how couples and like should deal with that, what should they talk about and get aligned with, because a lot of people break a

part when the going gets tough, right, you know, they should just become very aware in a recession, it's happening, even if it doesn't just be there, go there, okay, what do we need to do, a compromise, okay, let's shut out all the access spending, which you should anyway, you're violating one of the principles that we know about money, you know, get on the same page on money, where are we going to go, it's who's got my money, it's

always a who, who's got your money, who's going to, who can you exchange products and

services with, it's a who, it's people, how do you network, how do you get on the communication lines of the world, what can y'all do to me, how can you do 10x the amount of work, you know, now's the time to pour it on, not retreat, now's the time to be around a 10x mindset, now's the time to stay away from toxic people and small minded people, now's the time to step away from the news and stop hearing the news, accept it, make your battle plan, grant

I have three rules to money, one, you know how to earn it, right, number two, you know how to store it doesn't mean safe, you save it in a bank, the money is going to zero, it's depreciating and value, store it and then number three, you store it so that you can invest

“it into an passive income asset, that's what Grant and I have done, we earn income, all”

earned income either goes to self enhancement back into myself and my business, not back in the Chanel, not back into Gucci, not back into a nice car, it's sacrifice, pay the price today so you can pay any price in the future, that's it, be strict, be disciplined, this is what Grant and I did for a decade before social media and you couldn't see us paying the price, we paid the price, what are you willing to give up in order to get where

you wanted to go, we weren't doing fancy parties, dinners, no loaf time, we were working hustling, right, earned income either goes back into self, self enhancement business, the rest gets stored, okay, and that's it, boom, boom, boom, stored, store, then you get enough income producing asset, we created a fun, card owned capital, anyone can invest, accredited, non accredited, you can invest with us and have a piece of this from day one income producing

asset that either delivers a dividend monthly or quarterly depending on how you came in as an investor, and that money, okay, and that money, number three, the passive income is what you spend on your Gucci, in our case, planes, because we've amassed such a mass

sacrifice space, so if you can get into alignment on those three things and know how to

“do your finances and make agreements on, you know what, now's the time we're going to”

dig in, and even if we don't financially grow in the next year, but we grow spiritually, we grow in awareness, we grow with investing in whatever it is that you do in your business, you invest in your network that when the flood gates open, you're so far ahead of everybody

else, because you've had your discipline in for the last year, you know, people always ask

me, "What would you do if you lost all your money?" I'm like, "Yeah, so I wouldn't take me nearly as long to get at the second time." First time, "Why?" Because you can't take away what I know, you can't take away my connections, you can't take away my intelligence, my grit, my confidence, my discipline, you know, that's been earned. So now is the time to get together and say, you know what, now is the time where we can get stronger, where we can fortify.

Others are going to fail, let's make a commitment to be the winning couple, let's make a commitment

“to get on the other side of this so that we can help other people who were just like us. Start with”

a commitment, reaffirm it, every week, have your little, your meetings to power out to keep each other energized, set small goals along the way, small little targets that you can hit along the way to feel good. Yeah, so your story is so fascinating, because a lot of people would think that you might be upset that you're leaving behind such a great modeling and acting career. But actually, you ended up still being in this spotlight, being very famous, and almost it's like you took a

different path to get to the same place that you wanted to be. And to me, that's such a powerful lesson because a lot of people are so fixated on this one outcome of this is what I need to pursue my dream. This is the one outcome, but really, there's so many ways you can get to what you really want, which I think for you is like, making an impact. That's right. No, right. And so I'd like to give you a follow-up commitment, you know, and once you make a commitment in your open to the

possibility, and once you know what you want, you know your purpose, you all the sudden you can start to see opportunities everywhere. And when you get out of the little tunnel vision,

“in my case, for me, I thought the only thing I knew how to do was enacting career. What else”

can I do? I never went to college, never thought I was one of those smart chicks, you know. I thought

that was the only thing I had my whole identity wrapped up into. It was very hard to make the move. And exactly what you said now, as I just made this commitment, I've used everything along the way. I've just used it all, but if I had that close mindset, I wouldn't even be able to see, you know, I used now that I was able to support Grant and to turn that into my superhero. That is my power. I don't, I'm not ashamed by that other women. In my case, I'm only speaking

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So I'd love to understand first of all, what is your definition of an empire?

And then I want to understand what your role is and Grants role in this empire. So an empire is really a mindset. It's about thinking big enough, abundantly enough, big enough expansion, empires require people. No one can build an empire alone. So it's a metaphor for your life. This isn't the solo printer. This is the empire. And my role, of course,

“in every empire that you have, you should be the king and the queen of your empire. And there's”

empires within the empires. You know, my executive assistant, she gets to be the queen of her empire. And as the king and the queen, that means our relationship is the most sacred of the entire empire, meaning I don't go to my friends. And I metaphorically call them the Chambermaids in this book as an example to say, if you're with the queen and you're with the king, and that's the top.

How can you go to anyone below you and ask advice about being with the king when they've never

been with the king? They can't give you the advice. And why are you knattering and criticizing and complaining the king? And why would the king do that for the queen? And when you are allowed to seek your own counsel with each other and you protect each other, you're able to, the rest of the empire filters down and follows suits. So now I can work out my disagreements with my husband and private. And I don't have to have dumped onto my friends that now have a negative outlook with him.

outlook. I have to defend them. Or they bring up something that I've already hashed out. And then I go home and refight all over again. Why? I don't do that. So an empire is about abundance. It's abundance and confidence. It's abundance and resources. Finance is people. It's abundance on the mission. It's about wearing the crown. Something that's greater than yourself. It's about it's about something in your purpose. Being so important that you can be willing to feel scared

“or sad or lazy, but you'll still do it anyway because you have to do it for the crown,”

for the people, for the purpose, for the cause. It gets you going. It's being willing to think bigger than just yourself. Yeah. So one of the things that I'm curious about is how you get your children involved in this empire. It's very interesting that you guys bring them up on stage. You don't see many successful couples. Even putting their kids on camera, but you guys have decided that your entire family is going to be this role model family in the limelight. I want to understand how you

get buy-in from your kids to come along this journey. Well, I've just indoctrinated them from

when they're very early, very young. You know, I've always tried to respect them as spiritual beings

that are in little bodies, not that they're adults, not that they've earned adult rights, but that their spiritual beings are not children. They can understand, not like dumb, you know, but like that they can actually understand. So I've communicated, look, grant and I are super heroes and we want to make a difference for the better. We want to impact lives and grant wants to, you know, help financial literacy and help people take care of their finances and it helps their

families and, you know, me, I want to restore the family dynamics to society and I want to empower

“women because I believe we're powerful and we can make a difference and make change on the planet.”

And so do you want to be a part of that? We asked them, we don't make them, we didn't decide, we invited them to participate. Do you want to be a part of this team that makes the difference

for the better? Yes, yes, I want to be a superhero, you know, they're incredible, right?

Great. This is how you can do this. You can show up with us in events. You can dance on the stage. You can pass out the flyers. You can, you know, sometimes when we have to leave you behind because we have to go do an event when you're okay. When the nanny is watching you and I don't have to worry about you and I can give to that audience and then they can take it home and then they can go make their lives better for their kids. You're contributing. Do you realize you're not there

but you're contributing because you let us go distraction free. That is a way you are exchanging with us. I love them see that they can exchange from a very young age and now as you can see, you know, they're 13 Sabrina's on a trip with Grant today about meeting with a very big group of for apartments and whatnot and she does the real estate king with them and they do 10x kids and they're putting together a show mini moguls together and, you know, they speak at Grant Cardone

Foundation to other children. Like, you know, they're, they're taking an active role because they've been allowed to contribute and exchange with as much as they're willing to do. I feel like that's so beautiful. And so want to help your kids want to help, you know, like it's just understanding that you know, it might not look like in the form that you're used to. So, you know, from a very young age if the kids sees you on the computer all day long and they come over and they start pounding on

your computer as difficult as it may be to not be like, stop it. What are you doing? You're just throwing my document. But being and having the intellect enough to realize the kid is coming over who loves you so much and is trying to contribute. They're trying to help you by pounding on your computer. They want to contribute. So, you know, from a young age it was, oh wow, thank you so much.

Wow, that was amazing. They're like, you know, you know, you're all great and you take your

computer and undo all the little marks that they made and you know, continue. But it's allowing it's about parents recognizing like a for even a smile or a performance or a dinner they want to

“make you. I remember they made us dinners and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or whatever. It's like”

it's allowing them to to discharge that debt that they feel. Can you imagine a kid has been given everything? They can't do anything. They want to feel even from young ages that they are self-determined that they can do things that they can give back and they can contribute. And it's important for parents to recognize and allow their children to contribute. I love that. So, my last question before we start to close this out is really about you being a role model. People think it's

hold yourself with a certain amount of honor and grace. But it's not easy to be a role model. I know

that I've got a lot of fans on LinkedIn for example and sometimes I want to respond to a mean

“comment or but then I remember I'm a role model to so many people that are looking up to me and you”

have it, you know, a hundred times as most people. So I'd love to understand how you deal with that. Oh, so that's very easy. Like, you know, you mentioned wanting to respond to somebody. I have all those impulses too. What helps me in those situations, it isn't really necessarily that and I should maybe look and say, wait, I'm a role model here. But I don't. What I do is I go, look, my purpose is so big. I'm trying to restore the value of family dynamic to the world. I'm

trying to empower women to empower themselves to empower their families, their communities. Like,

I feel like I'm so far from having that goal achieved on this planet that I can't waste a second.

If, if that's the goal and then every time somebody says something negative about me,

“I go chase it down. What am I doing right now? I'm going down this rabbit hole. That enemy,”

that hater has now successfully distracted me from achieving my target because I'm off my target and I'm on to them and now I'm flowing power. Somebody like me, somebody like you who has power, who has influence. Now I've put my attention, your attention, your power onto them and I'm flowing them power even if it's a negative comment or whatever. Like, can you imagine the flow of power you just gave them and how much they received by pulling you off of your agenda? So I don't engage

because I can't afford to engage. I am so busy trying to get my mission accomplished that saves me. Now, if somebody tries to, and it's a rare circumstance, the real enemy who tries to threaten my family, our staff, our investors, somebody who's really evil intention, not somebody that's just going to say, I look like, oh, God, what do they call me? A drag queen, they say, I look like a drag queen, whatever. The people that want, or say that I'm a gold digger, a trophy wife, they try to say these,

which all of which I used to my benefit in the end. But, you know, I'm not talking about comments like that. I'm talking about real threats or those, those people, I am not afraid to come off of my post, you know, my job. And I'm not afraid to make an example out of them. And for all to see, because I want people to know, I do fight for my friends, I do fight for my group. You're not allowed to harm me, my family, my people. It won't happen on my watch. And it only happens about

maybe once every five years, but I'm not afraid to stab those people in a public arena, because I don't want, I want people to know what the threat is for coming after me and my group. But that's rare. The haters, they're like barking dogs on the wheel of a fire truck. Like, is the fire truck who's trying to put out a fire going to stop to kick the dog away from biting the tire? No, you're going to keep going. And the dog's going to tie your out. And all the haters do,

because they can't even match your energy. They don't all the energy that they have is to try to bring you down. Yeah. You know, and when that fails, they peter out. Yeah, I love what you're saying.

You're basically saying, save your energy for when it really matters. And all that little stuff

just let it slide off your back, because you don't want to feed your energy, give them your good

“energy. Right. Because that's what they want. They want to bring you down to your child. And the best”

revenge is to flourish in prosper. Yeah. Best revenge is the best for all involved. The more you succeed, the less hate you have for those people. You know, and it actually heals you from actually wanting revenge, you know, and you're doing good for the world. So the solution to everything is to flourish in prosper. So Elena, I want to be respectful of your time. I know we've just a couple minutes left. So I end my interviews with the same couple of questions. The first one is one,

what is one actionable thing that our young and profaners can do today to become more profitable tomorrow. profitable. You know, stop studying the self-proclaimed experts and really start getting mentors, study the big guys. The big guys study what is Elon Musk doing? How do they take on debt? What do they use debt? How do they? What do they? What are they doing? Like model them? What are the greats doing? So find the people and study what they're doing. Study the people that have the

statistic in the area of which you want to succeed in and go deep on everything that they do,

deep until you master that one thing. I love that advice. And what is your secret to profiting in life? And this doesn't have to be related to financially profiting can be profiting in relationships,

“for example, anything. The secret to profiting for me is I'm I'm I'm huge on this. I don't live”

from the past into the present. That's normal. I don't like normal. I live from the future to the present. So I look at where I want to go, who I want to be, who I want to be around, what do I want in my life? And I reverse engineer and take the actions necessary in order to become that

person that I want to be in the future. And so that's where I'm always looking from. I'm living

from now from my future self, not my past. When I disconnected from that, I really started to profit

“and have gains. Otherwise, you know, I was looking at the past. I don't want to buy this program”

because the last program didn't work and I failed. Well, I'm not the same person. Maybe I do the new program and a new unit of time, and this time it works. And you know, I compared myself to the pastor. This relationship is not going to work, because the last relationship didn't work.

Everything from the past, the past I could never get ahead. Once I finally said,

this is who I am. I want to know about finances. I want to be a good speaker. I want to be confident.

“I want to be competent. Every single course I've done since then has worked because I go,”

I need to have X, Y, and Z. Once I get through check, check, check, check, then I get to be that girl. That girl that I want. So every single thing that I do has impact, meaning I know it's going to work because I see who I'm supposed to be. I just have to get through the checklist of all my action items. And then I get to have it is a complete game changer. I love that you're bringing the stuff. I just had a conversation with Ben Hardy. And our whole conversation was about

future self. And he told me something that I wanted to share with my listeners really quick, because it's related with what you just said. Basically, it's like you're not your future self yet. You're not your past self. We're only our who we are in this moment. Your past self is dead. People who hurt you in the past. They're not the same people anymore. They've had new experiences. They think differently. They're doing different things. They have different jobs. It's literally the

person who broke your heart. The person who fired you. You can't stay mad at them because they're not the same person that person doesn't exist anymore. So the past doesn't even matter anymore.

And if you spend your time there, you're never going to get to where you want to go. So all you

can do is being your present self and work on your future self. So true. It's been a game changer for me. I liked that advice. Thank you so much, Alina. I really appreciate having you on the show. And thanks for coming up. Oh, it's been an honor. Thank you so much for having me and introducing me to all your amazing audience. Thank you.