Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

The Social Media Strategies Top Creators Use to Build Loyal Audiences | Marketing | YAPCreator Replay | E2

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Social media rewards authenticity, yet many creator-entrepreneurs still hide behind polished perfection. In today's crowded digital space, audiences trust and connect with real, relatable people far m...

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to support the show by writing us a review or engaging on our YouTube channel. I hope to take home these wins and thanks again for supporting the show. Gap Gang! We're continuing with the Yap Crater series replay and today we're going to talk about something that I truly believe is the foundation of every great brand, trust and authenticity. In a world where everyone is creating content, the creators who actually win and stand out

aren't just the ones with the best cameras or the biggest budgets. They're the ones that their audience genuinely believes in and building that kind of connection takes intention. So in this episode, I'm breaking down why trust and authenticity matter so much had a nurture that over time and sharing some of the best lessons that I've picked up from past Yap Gess that can help turn your casual followers into loyal, writer-day communities. So Yap Gham, if you're building a brand online,

you do not want to skip this one. Building trust online is crucial, especially when you don't

interact with your audience face-to-face. In the digital world, trust transforms casual followers into loyal supporters and eventually customers, but how do you establish that trust from behind screen? The first step is to get personal. That means being open about meaningful details from your life. Sharing who you are behind the polish brand makes you relatable, approachable and real. We're evading a brand-building expert, explained to me why this personal connection is so essential

for building trust and why it even made him change his mind about the people on social media who like to post about their every meal. How do you best build trust online? We would say, how do you best build trust offline? If you made a list of the top 10 people you trust in your life like would trust with your life or with your kids. There's a good chance you know those people, intimately. You know where they eat, you know where they live, you know about their families,

you know where they went to college, you know where they grew up, you know about their siblings, you know maybe some of their fears, you know some of their mistakes, you know those people intimately. And when I first got on social media, I was like, oh my gosh, this is so stupid. Why is everyone posting pictures of what they ate? And then I realized, oh, because we trust people

that we know intimate details about their life. Now that doesn't mean you have to post pictures of

your kids, right? There's a lot of reasons why not too and a lot of fears. Why not too? AJ and I happen to do it a lot. AJ is my wife and she's also my co-founder and the CEO of Brand Miller's Group. By the way, we were business partners in our former company that we sold and then we started Brand Miller's Group just a two of us and she's the CEO and I'm the CMO. And we're married, right? And so we got two kids. So we post, we happen to share those things occasionally. So we trust

people that we know details about their life, right? If I see someone walking down the alley,

I've never seen him before. I don't know anything about the person. I don't care what the color

of their skin is. If it's dark and it's an alley and I've never seen the person before, I don't care if it's a man, a woman, or their age, my body senses go up. I'm in an alley with the

stranger and that's how it is, right? Who's going to buy from a stranger? Nobody. So they got to know

something about you. Who else do we trust in real life? Well, we tend to trust people who we learn from. We trust pastors. We trust lawyers. We trust accountants. We trust doctors. We trust experts. We trust people. We trust teachers. We trust mentors. We trust counselors. We trust people who teach us things. We tend to trust people who entertain us, right? They make us laugh. They make us

Inspired.

but we see them a lot. Who else do we trust in real life? We tend to trust people who encourage us

in our darkest moments. The people who were there when you had your heart break. When you didn't

get into that school or you didn't get that job or the relationship fell apart or, you know, you lost money on that deal. The people who were there to encourage us in that moment, those are the people we trust because it's like we've been through the fire, right? I know you. You got my back. So, when you roll that forward to online, we have three simple strategies that we teach. We call them the three East for content marketing. First of all, educate, encourage,

and entertain. We typically say, you know, your feet should be more of what you do and it should educate and encourage or entertain because strangers don't care about your cat. The only people who care about your cat typically are going to be once they're intrigued by you and they want to kind of really vet you out. That's where they go. Who are you really, right? Lori talks about how trust comes from familiarity. People trust those that they feel that they know, whether that's through

personal stories, inspiration or education. His three East framework, educate, encourage, and

entertain is a simple yet powerful way to build genuine relationships online. But how can we take this

trust building to the next level? Well, some of you are looking at it right now and that's video. I learned about the trust building power of video from Sean Cannell, an expert on video marketing and the founder of Think Media, which has over three million YouTube subscribers. Sean explained why video gives your audience an instant sense of connection and trust, something that other content types struggle to match. We do business with people we know like

and trust and video is the best trust accelerator. If people read something you've written, they can get to know you a little bit. If they hear your voice on audio, that's great. They can get to know you better. But if they see you, they can get to know you best. And so it's kind of like

old school, small town rules. We meet someone face to face for coffee. You want to connect with

your real estate agent in person, look them in the eye, firm hand shake, what are you wearing?

You know, all those details speak something about you. Well, in video, we are able to now communicate those details. And Google released a report years ago called, I believe, the 7-11 for rule, which was, people need to consume seven hours of your content over 11 different touch points on four different platforms. And depending on your ticket price of your offer, for there to be trust for them to become a lead or even more so a customer. And so the power of

video is you're giving people a chance to get to know you pre-sale pre sales conversation and get to know your expertise, get to know some of your values and your principles. In fact, this would be like a checklist of the types of buckets of content that you'd want to have. It's why that, yes, you want to establish your authority. So you have videos that, oh, this person knows what they're talking about. You establish something that will help them. Wow, this person got me

results in advance. So their content helped me solve a micro problem compared to the big problem they solve. Dang, I can see they're good for it. They know what they're talking about. And they've already helped me for free. But one of the missing pieces is they also maybe hear bits and pieces of your story. This whole idea of we do business with people with shared beliefs and we do business with people with similar values. And sometimes we just go so logical and so practical like,

okay, cool this person can help me with Facebook ads. This person can help me with my taxes. But when you start weaving in bits and pieces of your story, they start saying, oh, wow, this person has family values. Oh, wow, this person is of a particular faith. Wow, this person is even maybe kind of leans this way or that way in their ideology. These things, you don't have to put like politics in religion in your content necessarily. However, a lot of

times those are polarized people to you, as well as the way from you. But the people polarized to you will be even better customers and will resonate with you even deeper. So over seven hours of content consumed, 11 different touch points could include a YouTube video seeing you on Instagram connecting you within the DMs, landing on your website and watching the explainer video. And four platforms also speaks to the power of being on LinkedIn, seeing a deeper dive training,

listening to you on an audio podcast. When you start, this is the whole vision of content marketing is then all of this trust has been built and this familiarity has been built. And so for a lot of listeners, they might have a sales team or somebody eventually jumps on a sales call, you're you're not dealing with, if you will, cold traffic or even just slightly warm traffic at that point. You're actually maybe dealing with somebody who's like, listen, I already like,

really no like and trust you. I've seen this content. I'm just curious the details of your offer and so in conversions increase impact increases sales increases and you grow your brand

Wider and wider in the process.

you behind written or audio content. With repeated exposure across platforms, your audience builds

familiarity and confidence in your brand, setting the stage for deeper engagement. We talked about trust, now let's move on to authenticity. One of the best ways to appear authentic is to embrace what makes you unique. By incorporating your own interests and quirks, you're bringing more than just a polished image to your brand. You're showing the real person behind it. Kat Norton, aka Miss Excel, is a perfect example of how authenticity and unique

interests can make content stand out. With over 1.1 million followers on Instagram and 2.3 million followers on TikTok, Kat has mastered the art of capturing attention. She told me how combining her distinctive passions for dancing and Microsoft Excel created an unexpected level of engagement from her audience. So I was really just learning by the seat of my pants. I would

read the comments people had and I'm like, okay, what do they like? What do they not like?

But also for me, it really came down to authenticity. So I love dancing. I love helping people and I love Excel. So I was like, what would happen if I put all of that inside of one video, right?

And so for me, it was just an authentic expression. It was cool. Something I had never seen

anybody do before in terms of the Excel space, especially, but also in a lot of learning spaces, integrating dance, which is more native to the TikTok app, but then layering in the educational piece. And that polarity is what really helped the videos take off because if I had just posted Excel tip videos, if you would have been like cool, I don't use Excel and moved on. But so many people were commenting because they were like, what the heck is this going to do? She is dancing.

She is doing, yeah, Tuesday's slide to love the right function. What is going on here? And that's really what helped it go through the algorithm. And I want to laser in on something you said, you talked about polarity. So the fact that you combined two things that are really uncommon together, dance and Excel. It gets people talking. It gets people like complaining, why are you dancing, talking about Excel? Or some people will love it and it gets people talking, which really drives

everything up in the algorithm. Do you have anything else to say about polarity and how important it

is for social media? I think it's a combination of polarity because obviously you want like a

healthy polarity, right? You don't just want to like say things to create polarity. It needs to be something that's actually authentic to you. So I think that's like the nuance when it comes to polarity because a lot of people too, what it comes to polarity, it's important to make sure that your mental health is in a great spot to be able to receive what comes with polarity, right? A lot of times when a video goes viral, negative comments are the majority of the ones in there

because it's being shown to people. It's being shared and that's just the nature of the planet.

We live on a polarity planet. There's always positive and negative forces. So it comes to making

sure that your nervous system is able to hold the energy of what is going to come through from creating the polarity in that content. So for me, that was my biggest work. I was constantly working on myself because easily some people get some negative comments and it'll take them out. But I don't want to post any more people think this or you start having certain limiting beliefs that then are adjusting the actions you'll take. So instead of following your intuition,

you're following the actions that'll please the most people or things like that. So it's really

important to keep coming back to yourself, come back to that intuition and know that the

polarity is going to trigger some people and that's okay. That was a big lesson for me as a former people, please. You know, I had to let that go. As Katnor in points out here, combining contrasting elements in a genuine way, what she calls polarity, can drive engagement and deepen connections. It's a reminder that showing up authentically may involve quirks or unique passions, even if they seem unconventional. When people see those real, unfiltered sides of you,

they're drawn into the person behind the brand, not just the content. Okay, speaking of drawing audiences, audiences today crave authenticity. They want to connect with somebody who feels real and relatable, not just some polished, perfect version of you. So don't try away from sharing the ups and downs. True engagement comes when you share your failures, your setbacks, your lessons and progress. These draw on polished moments build authenticity and foster deeper connections with

your followers, making them feel like they're part of your growth story. At YAP and on my personal profiles, we blend polished visuals with everyday moments. So for example, one day I might put up a photo from a photo shoot that was professionally shot. And the next day, might be a selfie that I shot myself. Let's hold that thought and take a quick break with our sponsors. YAP, fam, you just realized your business needs to hire somebody yesterday. How do you find

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And by consistency, I'm not really talking about posting frequently, which is important,

but I'm talking about aligning with your brand voice and visual identity across every piece of content. This alignment helps you reinforce your brand message, making it recognizable and trustworthy. This starts with visual identity. Elements like colors, fonts, and logos can help you create a cohesive and instantly recognizable look. For example, by choosing a color palette that aligns with your brand's values and personality, you can differentiate yourself and promote

instant recognition with your followers. And when it comes to branding less is more, if you stick with two to three colors max and two fonts max, the more clear and the more memorable you'll be. And I don't think anybody I've ever interviewed is more memorable than the

Marketing and paid ads king, Rudy Moore.

And my whole office is red, so we grew a 12,000 square foot office in Tampa, 50 staff. Everyone had to wear red. They got sent home if they didn't come in uniform, which was red. The, you know, whole office was red. My army offices are red. The brands are red. The cars are red. And people even asked me when I'm on stage, yes, my underwear is red if you're wondering. So, all in on the red, all in. What is that done for your brands? How do you feel like it's impacted

your brand? I would love to say I came in with this exact plan that wasn't the case, but I think

one thing that made me successful is I'm really good at looking and learning and adapting and pivoting and then going all in. So I started my personal brand when really when COVID here, I really wanted to grow my personal brand in the business marketing world. I'd already

done it in the fitness space. I had a million followers there. I've sold out events around the

world. I had a Facebook group, 60,000 members and I saw the power of it. And so I was like, okay, well, now I'm moving into the business space. I'm going to do the same here. So I brought someone into run my agency. I went all in with my personal brand and we did $25 million in free years. Just selling courses programs coaching programs. So we grew super fast. And I'm saying that because I think half of that is because I went all in on the personal brand and the social and the organic

and stages and all of that sort of stuff. So it had a massive impact. I don't think I would have grown it to that amount so quickly without the brand. But during that time, we were just getting feedback. People were buying courses programs. I had this like red backdrop. Nothing because extremists I've got now, but it was kind of similar to this if you're watching on video. And people loved it. They were buying 20k masterminds saying, I don't even know who this guy is.

I just see his red ads everywhere and it's branding some point and he clearly knows what he's doing. Luckily, touch wood in this industry. I do feel I know what I'm doing. It's not just a facade like half the industry we live in is. And then I was going to events when COVID locked down ended and all the friends that I'd known for five years were like, dude, I love your branding now. Like how you did this whole red thing. So it just got more and more and more and I'm a very

extreme person, which is sometimes great and sometimes terrible. So I just went all in. I just oh my calls are red. I made the offices red. I made all the staff were red and I played into it.

And now it's very recognizable and I'm well known for it. I mean, the thing to key thing is that

you're memorable, right? There's so many other influencers out there and you do have the knowledge to back it up and the credentials to back it up, but the red just makes it memorable and makes you stand out whereas other people might have to be seen 10 times to be remembered. Maybe just

once is all you need to be remembered. Rudy's story perfectly highlights the power of bold,

consistent branding and making a lasting impression. His commitment to his signature red theme ensures his brand is instantly recognizable and memorable, cutting through the noise in a crowded space. In addition to visual identity, a strong brand voice is key for forming meaningful connections with your audience. Your ranch should not only represent who you are, but also reflect and mirror the qualities and interests of your audience. And that's because people connect with those

who are similar to them. People like people who are like themselves. A strong brand voice means consistent core messages. Choose a few messages that you repeat in different forms over and over again so that your audience remembers what you stand for and how you can transform and improve their lives. For example, I have core messages that I repeat over and over again. I remind my audience that

you're never too young or too old to learn something new. And that if a gatekeeper tells you no,

find another path. These are messages that resonate deeply with them because it reflects their own values of resilience, growth, and empowerment. By weaving in these messages into my content consistently, whether it be through interviews, stories, or videos, I help my audience know what to expect from me and I reinforce the value proposition that I have for them. Someone else with a super consistent brand is Gary Vaynerchuk, aka Gary V. He told me that consistent branding

requires more than just an effective message. It means knowing exactly who you're targeting with that message. Speaking of niches, let's talk about creating audiences because like you just talked about, we can talk about multiple topics. We don't have to be scared about that. We can be a dynamic person on social media, which means we're going to be speaking to multiple audiences. That's right.

And you say we should develop cohorts with teeth. So what do you mean by that?

When I make content, sometimes I'm like, this piece of content that I'm going to make is going to hit 45 to 55-year-old first-time moms on the coasts, more New York LA mentality, then London, then Ohio, then Spain. So if I know that I'm doing that, don't you think that my adjectives and analogies tone intent, right? So I want everyone who's listening to start thinking about cohorts.

Gary, what do you mean?

within sneaker content. There's people of high net worth, like myself who can afford bougie-fucking, you know, Nike Air Force One collaborations. There's other people who just like really like new balance. Like there's the rebound movement that I'm getting into as well. Like there's a

lot going on. Crocs, if you want to expand it a little bit, like, do you know who you're making

this video for? Because everyone's going to vanilla. I made content for entrepreneurs. I'm like, okay, knock yourself out. Like imagine how much better a piece of content is that you know that

you're going to make, I'm going to make content for first-generation Hispanic entrepreneurs that

are 18 to 22 that came from immigrant parents that came from Mexico. I'm going to use analogies. I'm going to make reference to Rigatone. I'm going to talk about San Antonio culture. Like, like, use their slang and however they talk. 100% it's called relevant, everyone. If you're not relevant to someone, the second I make a long-tail bar stool joke, every bar stool dude is like, fuck, yeah, like it's not super complicated. And so because everyone gets so boring in vanilla right

one, people say to me all the time they're like, it's a really funny thing that I fuck people up with, like, because I've been so consistent in growing and all this stuff. But then, like, sometimes I'm like, but Gary, you say the same shit. I'm like, what do you want me to make up stuff I don't

believe in? And then they go, like, if they stick with me in that combo, they start to realize,

ah, I say the same macro 15 things, but the way I say it differently and how and where and what, and to whom that's the game. So cohorts, these are consumer segmentations. In old television talk, it was, we're trying to reach the 18 to 35 year old demo. I like the thing everyone in here is at a point in their lives where they realize an 18 year old person and a 32 year old person is different. So like, but that was television. You didn't have the internet. Yeah. Now that we have

the internet, like everybody who's listening should be posting on Facebook. It's huge. Still, I'm getting 25, 30 year old audience on Facebook. Now they're on there like once in a blue moon

compared to whatever, but like you should be relevant to Facebook audience. You should be relevant to

TikTok audience. Snapchat's culture slightly different than TikTok's. It's all different rooms out there and you want to be in every room. There you go, folks. As Gary puts it so well, you have to be in every room. To have an effective brand message today, you've got to be relevant. You need to know your audience and every cohort and segment within that audience. But where do you start? How do you identify the audiences that your brand will resonate with most?

Well, sometimes it's as simple as focusing on one very important person. A powerful strategy

for building a loyal community is creating content with a single person in mind. Your ideal audience member. Business strategist Jasmine Star calls us approach the foundation of building your kingdom online. By focusing on one person, you can transform your content from simple broadcasts into genuine personal connections. Here's Jasmine Star explaining how focusing on one person and engaging authentically helps to build a thriving loyal community around your brand.

You know, if you see Jasmine, I'm not getting direct messages. Great. Go to accounts where you can follow the stories. If you can vote on something, vote on something. If you go respond to a story, respond to a story. We want to create a little tiny kingdom that is your business and your kingdom is up on a hill. And then there's the villagers down below. How do people know

that your kingdom is on the hill? You have to go down into the village. Tell everybody, hey,

there's a kingdom up there. And how you do that is by giving comments, liking photos, sending DMs, so people become aware. So we go back to niching down. This makes creating content so much easier. If you feel frustrated, if you feel overwhelmed, if you're creating tough content, it's taking so much time. Let's narrow it down to not just niche. I'm actually going to upload this. I'm going to say, create content for one person. Who is your dream customer? What

do they want? What do they need? What solutions are they looking for? And when you just think about that one person and you create content and you speak to that one person, I know it's natural for you to think, well, if I create content for one person, well, then nobody else is going to buy. It's actually quite the opposite. Studies have shown and business owners will tell you that when you speak, do you the 34 year old farmer who wears flannel and likes hard hats and listens to

country music and drinks bud, wiser? Like, you create content for that person. It's very different than creating content for the 56 year old Manhattan woman with four children who vacations in the Hampton. When you create content for those two separate people, it will resonate differently. So the big question is, do you know who your dream customer is? Because when you build that out, your content becomes entirely different. And then you get to looping back to Katherine's question,

give engagement to who you think your dream customers are. That is how you scale. As Jasmine shared, when you speak to one person, you make every follower feel like they're part of something personal and valuable. This approach allows you to move beyond surface level

Engagement and build deep connections that resonate on a community level.

values, think about ways to create touch points with your audience that go beyond the usual

interactions. In the last section of this episode, we talked about creating content that resonates

with a specific audience. Now, let's take a step further, monetizing those relationships authentically. This isn't about selling for the sake of selling. It's about listening to your audience, understanding their needs and creating products or services that genuinely serve them. This is where the creator economy has totally changed the game. As Harley Finkelstein, the president of Shopify told me, "Creator entrepreneurs have a unique advantage.

They're not starting with a product and then searching for customers. Instead, they're building engaged audiences first and then developing products that align directly with their communities interests." Harley shared some great insights on how brands, both big and small, are leveraging personalization to connect with their audiences. Even major companies like Haines and Oreo are creating customized products and engaging more directly with their consumers. But this approach

isn't just for big brands. Creators have a unique opportunity to build close, authentic relationships with their followers and offer products that reflect those connections. Here's Harley explaining how this shift towards creator-driven businesses is creating a new wave of entrepreneurship.

So, actually, I think this idea of the creator economy, it's just the economy accept

that there's this really cool advantage, which is that you have a built-in audience for your

products. A lot of companies are either never sold direct to consumer. Do you think about the

CPGs, for example, Haines catch up, size a store on Shopify? Haines catch up, never sold direct to consumer, Haines would sell through a grocery store. But there's some people that really care about, like, they're obsessed with catch-up. They love catch-up. And they want to buy direct from Haines, called Haines at home. And for the first time ever, those big brands are actually having direct relationship, whether it's through social media. And if remember, years ago,

the Wendy's account had a real personality. And a lot of these social media accounts of big brands actually have personalities to the extent that their consumers want to interact with them. And so, you have a couple things happening with the big companies. One is that big companies are beginning to act a lot more entrepreneurial. They want to have a direct relationship and then consumer. But also, they're experimenting. They're trying new things. A couple years ago, one of the cool things

I thought that Oreo did, which is owned by Mondalese, is as a Christmas gift or holiday gift, you can personalize Oreos. So, there's someone in your life that loves Oreos, you can make a Harley's Oreos happy holiday, so I'm like that. That is really interesting. So, each of those things on their own are kind of interesting. When you combine those things, you see big companies acting very entrepreneurial. You see creators just on the creator side. Think about these artists,

like these musicians. People like Drew House, with Justin Bieber's brand that he built, or Ovia would Drake his built. You see these traditional, you know, what would be a traditional musician completely expand their scope of what they're actually building and selling and creating. When I used to go to a concert when I was a kid, I would go to the merch table. It was usually some sort of like ski-screen print on some basic t-shirts, like fruit of the

lume t-shirt, and it said, like, I don't know, the rolling stones on the back was a bunch of tour tour dates. Well, now you go to these concerts, and you go to like a Drake concert, and they're selling a Canada goose Ovio collab jackets, or you go to, you know, a feral concert, and you see some of the crazy stuff he's selling like cosmetics at the concert that he, that he's created himself. So, big companies are actually entrepreneurial. Artists are now actually

expanding from just being a creator, surrounded music and art and film, to actually creating product. And then, of course, you have just more people generally becoming entrepreneurs, and more people saying, I'm amazing, chicken soup, and now I'm going to sell that chicken soup to the world. Now, I think when you combine all these things, you see people that traditionally

had not entered entrepreneurship doing so, and they're scaling out of pace that just has never

been seen before. And that's why that's a long answer to a very short question. But that's why

I think there's an entrepreneurial, you read a song's happening. Like Harley said, brands that connect with their audience on a personal level can build something much more impactful than just a business transaction. By focusing on what their community truly values, creators can launch products that feel like a natural extension of their brand, fostering loyalty and long-term engagement. And that's a wrap for episode two of the YAP Creator Series replay.

Today, we explored why trust and authenticity are critical to building a loyal audience and creating content that connects on a deeper level. Remember, audiences resonate most with the real you, not the polished, perfected facade of you. It's about embracing your quirks, sharing your journey, and letting your personality shine through. Thanks for tuning in, and I can't wait to connect with you all again for episode three, where we'll continue to unlock the secrets of content creation.

This is your host, Paula Taha, aka the podcast princess signing off.

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