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and saying nasty things about each other, would you ever have imagined that it would have wound up with two people dead in this house? No, never would have. I don't know if I'm gonna call, tell me that she was gone.

Am I gonna just kill, believe it? Oh, it's so awesome. This is the bedroom where the clay was found. Single shot. Single shot in the face.

Through the back of the house, bro. And did they catch Billy Jean as well, totally asleep? My impression was they look like a hit. But contracted. Right.

People saw there was a killer on the loose. I'm sorry it happened. Hey, that's all I've been telling you is they have been harassing and living. What kinds of things were people saying about you?

Just that was a bad person. I was horrible. It's threatening to get hurt. What started all this hatred? I've had my life.

“My life is fake, I'm fake, I'm fake, you know, better than all.”

All part of what prosecutors call the craziest stupidest deadliest cat-fishing scheme you have ever seen. This is mountain city, a postage stamp hamlet nestled in the mountains in East Tennessee. Mountain City is a tuba foretale, you know, as two miles wide and four miles low. A sign, greeting visitors, calls Mountain City a friendly hometown.

Johnson County is a considered a very safe place. I was the assistant district attorney there for over six years and there was only a handful of homicides, maybe one a year if that. You grew up with people and you're going to see them at the grocery store. You go to the gas station and you run into somebody you know.

Everybody goes to the same church. It's the quintessential small town America. Definitely a place where everybody knows everybody, everybody's in everybody else's business. That call is coming from this house where Billy Payne lives with his fiancé, Billy Gene Hayworth, when two neighbors stop by, they discover unspeakable horror.

The back door's always unlocked, so he goes in, haulers, nobody answers, he thought it was

strange that Billy Gene's cars here, Billy's truck is here and nobody's answering, so

“he goes down the hallway and finds Bill on the bed.”

Billy Payne is not moving, his face is bloody. They heard it noise in the second bedroom, which is farther down the hall from the first. They went back and they found the seven-month-old baby. We found Billy Gene laying in the floor and the baby was there with her. She had her arms wrapped around him and he was laying there on the floor with her.

The child was covered in blood. I'm ready that I'll be here in every day. I'll be honest with you. I don't know how long I can hear what it is. The baby chimed as many as a parent would talk maybe it's been up for a month or a while and probably

we can't hear it. Miraculously, the baby, Tyler, seen here in photos released by the Johnson County Sheriff's office, has no physical injuries and appears to be unharmed. Sadly, the same can't be said for the seven-month-old's parents. No, there's no pulse.

I know there's no pulse on him because he wanted to see you. You are anything? There's no pulse. There's no pulse. I'll make it one of the watts.

This was around 1040 a.m. in the morning.

That's whenever the first call had came in.

Here I am. I'm driving down through here and I'm thinking it's hard to believe that there is actually two people that's been murdered down here because it's just something that's very uncommon here. If one thing happens there, the whole community knows about it, the situation of two people

being murdered in their own home murdered in every promise, in the early morning hours,

This is where Billy Payne and Billy Jean were murdered in this house. Law enforcement officers took me to the crime scene back in 2015.

“And you're the first on the scene because you live pretty close to here, right?”

I live approximately a mile and a half down the road right below here. Resets they found no sign of break-in. That's because anyone could have walked right into the small house, just like the police did. So they go to the back door, they just open it up.

It's unlocked. It's a sliding glass, no one just slotted up and walking. This is the kind of place where people don't really lock their doors, I guess. I walked right in, was there any sign of scuffle a fight, anything?

No, I'm not sign of anything, that nature might look like million, just got now

to be it. That's what we found his body. For what were we on this day in? Special agent Scott Lawton, with the Tennessee Baroque Investigation, takes me into the home where the young couple was killed.

This is the bedroom where the play was found. He was shot. Think of shot, in the face. Bill, he also had Slashmarks across his neck and the front. It was like he was going from the left side, over towards the right side, was how the

slashes were. And it wasn't one. It was like multiple slashes. I left from there and went down to the next room, which was the baby's room. And I saw Billie Jean Hayworth lying on the floor and I could tell that she had an injury

above her right ear. Like Billie, Billie Jean is shot once in the head.

Police theorized Billie is killed first.

The bedroom should be right and this side just went to the right first room. Billie's bedroom was here and the child's room was next. So they walked through the back of the house and they catch Billie Jean as well, totally asleep. Now, Billie Jean was asleep for more weekend, she was holding the baby.

Once the intruder came in, she jumped up and ran out with the baby to try to get away. Police think Billie Jean ran into the baby's nursery and tried to shield him from the attack. So it didn't take much time to get from that room to this room to shoot him. No.

And then it's just five feet. Right.

“I think it takes a cold-blooded person to shoot somebody holding the baby.”

Was that the most shocking thing about this mirror? You know, when that airformation got out, people were just starting to bet that. It's welcoming me to keep like this. You've been involved in police work, law enforcement for what 30 years? Almost 30 years.

Have you ever seen anything like this? Never seen no one else. Who could kill people in this way? It's a question that will ultimately uncover ugly family feuds, divide a mountain city, and have these small town cops looking to a possible CIA plot.

My impression after, you know, the first week was in the collected hit. But contract it. Right. She doesn't have a pause. She doesn't need to do this.

It's five times six. So you know how long maybe they've seen there? I don't know. They're cold, they're wild. It's a home invasion double murder that has a small Tennessee mountain town

on edge and authorities scratching their heads. When they first asked me if I knew anybody that would hurt them, nobody came to mind. Nothing hit me right off. I didn't know what would have happened. And then they asked me if they had any enemies.

Most of the time, if we have a murder, it's usually somebody that they know or a family member or one of the friends that got upset.

This is one of those that we always call us like a who-done-it-murder.

And there was one other person there with the squad coming to know I knew that place. The details are even more horrifying. 36-year-old Billy Payne is not only shot in the head, his throat is sliced. In 23-year-old mother Billy Jean is holding her seven-month-old son when she's killed.

“Pretty cold blooded to shoot a woman holding her child, don't you?”

Yes. It is. It's a special point blank, I mean it's just right there. Shook people up, huh? Indeed.

It's your need. People felt there was a killer on the looks. Did you know the people who lived here? Yes, I did. Very familiar with him, no Billy and his sister from the time they were small.

Billy Payne's sister Tracy told me she is still struggling with losing her brother. I was shocked, but I thought that when true, you know, I just, I don't know, it's like

I still don't think it's true.

They were by lock, Billy.

“Billy was one of these type of people that was out going and was friends with everybody.”

He liked to get together with friends, go for willing with your truck into mountains, and, you know, do stuff like that, go camping. Billy worked at Parkdale Mills, a textile factory as a machine operator. Billy Jean Hayworth, who is a few years younger than Billy Payne, she started working at Parkdale Mills.

That's where Billy Payne and Billy Jean met. They started dating. There was a good person, fun loving, outgoing, kind of person I might want to be around. She likes swimming, all big up in there since she was little. The romance moves quickly, and no time at all, Billy Jean moves in with Billy and his father.

And a short time later, she gives birth to baby time.

“She was so excited, he was her world, this glow she had about her when he came into the”

world was just unbelievable. She told me that not before she got murdered, she was happy. Her son met the world, the her, and Billy did too.

She says this, I mean, love, she finally found out what love really was.

I don't know if I'm gonna call tell me that she was gone. This is my shorter, I might have known this kid, believe it, I was short, and you just don't ever think of something like it happened until your baby sister. It was one of the hardest days of my life. Nobody should have to go through finding out that the friends have been murdered.

No, who would want to murder a young family like this at this point police are desperate for any clues?

“Were you able to glean very much forensic evidence from this scene?”

There's very little, it's very clean scene, as far as, you know, physical evidence goes. So no prints, no shell casings, no DNA left behind. It was because whenever the suspects entered the house, they didn't do anything else. They did not go through the drawers, the closets, the wallets were all left in their places. Some money was laying around, it was left, just as it was.

So nothing was taken from the residents. Investigators at the scene don't find any shell casings, which leads them to believe that the murder weapon was a revolver, but they do find two bullets there. Really Jean was laying in the floor, and a semi-futile position. To me, it looked as if she was bending over to pick up her child from the bouncy seat,

and was shot at that point. I guess the bullet landed in the bouncy seat. It was amazing. He would think that we would have to, you know, look for the bullet in the room, either in a wall or something, but it was just laying right there. And the bullet was still in a good shape.

A bullet recovered from Billy's pillow is also mostly intact. That bullet has an X carved into its tip. This is a technique that's used to craft what is sometimes called a poor man's hollow point. The idea is that the bullet would break apart upon impact and cause even more damage.

And you never found the murder weapon or the knife that apparently slipped the throat.

The other one. My impression after, you know, the first week was, it looked like a hit. The contract hit. Right. They either had some training or they were self-taught.

We didn't know, you know, we initially started questioning family and friends. Billy's father tells investigators that when he leaves for work at about 530 that morning, Billy is still sleeping and Billy Jean is feeding the baby. Bill Payne would always ride with a guy to work. And that morning, he went up and knocked on the door, but no one would come to the door.

So he just figured that, you know, he wasn't going to go to work, so he just left and went on to work. And that was sometimes around maybe six o'clock or so.

they still need to find out who did it.

The first day when we were talking to friends at the victims, someone had mentioned that

there was some kind of altercation or a grievance. If someone had let you see everything that had gone on, de-friendly each other on Facebook and their talking and saying nasty things about each other, would you ever have imagined

“that it would have wound up with two people dead in this house tonight?”

In 2012, the small town of Mount City is very online. A lot of people know about everything that goes on here, look how they've, you know, Facebook. Back in 2012, there was Facebook, but there was a now-de-funked website called Topics. Topics became the big deal in Johnson County.

Where people can go in there and make their own topic and have discussions and it's usually

combined to different areas around here, it's very popular.

One of the biggest users of Topics and other social media sites in Mount City is a 30-year old Janelle Potter who will become a key player in this murder mystery. So let's start off in the beginning. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Kenna Square, Pennsylvania.

Most of it like.

“They moved to Mountain City from Pennsylvania in the early 2000s.”

From all accounts, Janelle was someone who didn't really leave the house very much. She lived most of her life online. The Potter family was known pretty well in Johnson County as keeping themselves and just being a little weird.

They didn't really interact with a lot of people.

They didn't work. It seemed very, very like a very paranoid family. Janelle's father Marvin also goes by the name Buddy. Now Buddy's a Vietnam vet who says he did covert missions for the CIA. His wife Barbara, it meant she doesn't exactly know what he did overseas.

Was he ever in the CIA or attached to the CIA? Yes. Buddy's a gentle giant who's on disability, he suffers from debilitating back pain and periodically relies on oxygen tanks to breathe, but he still sees himself as the protector of this family.

My understanding of Janelle and why she was still living with her parents is that she has some learning disabilities that were diagnosed pretty early in her life. Buddy and Barbara are protective and they barely let their daughter out of their sight. What were the rules? What kind of rules were they?

Don't be out past, you know, a travel clock at night, no smoking, no drinking, no party and no drugs, stuff like that. Tell me about Janelle. Mary and Iyv can make decisions sometimes that are quite right for her because she's young.

“She's young and her more young than her age, I think.”

Her parents had a lot of control over her. She was not allowed to use their computer unmonitored. She was not allowed to use her cell phone unmonitored. She wasn't allowed to have friends over socially to be around people in person without them getting in good with Buddy and Barbara beforehand.

Do this for Janelle to seek out relationships online? Janelle also suffers from chronic health issues which keep her indoors most of the time. Janelle did have some interactions in real life and these photos presented in court showed Janelle with new friends Billy Payne and his sister Tracy. I worked at the pharmacy in town and I were coming in and getting her medicine and we felt

sorry for Janelle because she was she elder because she was sick. So I got to talk to my brother about these people that had come in. She gave me a phone number and not last night calling her. Tell me about your relationship with Tracy. It was again, she was a good friend of me.

I would go out with her to the mall to her house a few times out the E. Took her son in different places. We were okay. What did you think of Bill? He was nice.

Just nice. But Janelle says she's also being cyberbullied and hateful anonymous comments begin appearing on her Facebook page. Soon this war of words explodes online between Janelle and Billy Jean Hayworth who

What was her relationship like with Billy Jean? Oh, she had her. From the gecko. She had color all kinds of bad names. Now at one point the date on friend you on Facebook.

I think we did it to each other. I am friend of them. I am friend of me. Who on friend did who first?

“I did Bill first and I think Billy did me.”

I am friend of her. But Janelle says the online venom keeps coming and escalates to physical threats. Janelle's mother Barbara intervenes. I wrote, "Please do not write these things. I beg them, please don't do this."

What kinds of things were people saying about you? Just that was a bad person. I was horrible. I was threatened to get raped, threatening to get hurt. Must have been pretty scary.

Yes. But why would people say this about you? I don't know. What's started all this hatred? I'm not sure.

And those are the exact same questions. Police want to ask the podders that day after Janelle's Facebook friends turned foes are murdered. The podders lay in the right, lay in the right up here. So this is the house, this is the house.

And you told him this is a conversation, you know, this is no search warrant, right. This is just something just to get some interviews, just to set down and talk about what type of problems that they all had with each other. Hey! Hey, Daniel.

The podders, the day is on each side. Unknown to the podders, investigators record the end of it. Well, we're doing the right thing out, it's a best thing to know how it should be.

Very serious, bad, pervile, always points further to those folks.

Well, no, there ain't nobody going to think of it. Instead of talking about how tragic the murders were, instead of talking about, you know, what an outrage it was. The podder family, especially Janelle, just started trashing on Billy Payne and Billy Jean Awer.

They've been harassed by my driveway or her property, and that, yes, they're warning that they were like, "Uh, Facebook is when I shout out."

“And, um, oh, I'm sorry it happened, but I think that's all I could tell you is they have”

been harassing the living craft of it. Well, they've been harassing. They came out to be a jealousy thing. They thought it was too fruity. Betty and Barbara Potter definitely saw their daughter as a victim.

They saw the Facebook posts, they saw the emails that were sent back and forth. They really thought that people were out to rape her, people were out to kill her.

"You never put on the internet that you issued, that would end, that would end, that would

end." "No!" "No!" "No!" "I'm not that big, I just don't want to believe the over, that's all I've ever asked."

"What did you come away with?" "I have nothing to do with it, I didn't have anything to do with it at all." And so were you really suspicious when you walked away from that house? We were suspicious, yes. Why aren't investigators suspicious?

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wherever you get your podcasts. As Mountain City investigators are interviewing the potters about an online feud with murder victims Billy Payne and Billy Gene Hayworth, they ask about a local man named Jamie Kirk. Jamie Kirk. Jamie Kirk was from Johnson County, and I had lived there as a laugh.

He was a pretty solitary guy, kept to himself.

Every time you see him, he's always wearing sunglasses.

He says that the son always bothers his eyes. Jamie Kirk was Billy's second cousin. Jamie had grown out with Billy, they were more like brothers and cousins. Jamie, like Billy Payne and Billy Gene, worked at Parkdale Mills, and like Billy, he's brought into Janelle's orbit, thanks to Tracy, who set the Shijanelle up with her cousin.

“So why did you think this set up Jamie and Janelle?”

Well, hey, Jamie didn't have a girlfriend, and she really didn't have a boyfriend. So, I mean, I mean, they didn't like, like, they've got together by name and whatnot. Jamie was sort of rough looking, you know, greasy, and she was neat, so. Jamie also moonlights fixing home computers around town. The potters.

Use Jamie as a person to come and fix their computers whenever something was wrong. Which would give Janelle a reason to be able to see Jamie, and when Jamie was there, Janelle would be allowed to go into the computer room and talk to Jamie and be around Jamie. So Jamie and Janelle got closer and closer. But the potters didn't want Janelle dating, and they certainly didn't want Janelle dating

Jamie. Janelle's mom and dad did not approve of Jamie, so Jamie was in love with her, so Jamie had purchased her a cell phone, and he would come here, bring it, and hide it in the bush and see what it's going to get.

“They started talking some, I believe, that they would text message and instant message”

back and forth, they used email frequently. This undercover relationship between Jamie Kurt and Janelle just kept growing and growing. You and Jamie got pretty serious at one point. Yes. How often would you talk?

Every day. For long periods. For an hour or two hours at a time. Well, what would you talk about? Our Dave, I don't know you would tell you about his life or tell him about mine.

In typo-filled messages, Janelle tells Jamie, "You will always be in my life.

I will always love you, and you're not just a part of me, you are all of me." Janelle even signs the message "You're wife." When police ask Janelle about her relationship with Jamie, she lies. But police have evidence that shows that's not true. We located photographs and a cell phone and the photographs show them kissing at one point.

Would you think of Jamie? I'm nice to everybody. He told me how he worked on computers, he could build them from the bottom up. He did more than work on your computer and worked on your daughter, too. Yeah, and I didn't know that for a long time that he was interested in her or vice versa.

It was secret. Police also know that Jamie got dragged into this online feud and his feelings for Janelle pit Jamie against his own cousin. Janelle convinced Jamie that Billie Jean Hayworth and Billy Payne were targeting Janelle

He started having problems with Billy Payne at work.

“They had got into an argument down there and some of the people had heard Jamie say something”

about slicing his throat. Billy's throat had been slashed. So yes, that's the reason that we brought Jamie Hardy. We just asked him, "Hey, would you take a polygraph?" And sure enough, he said that he would, that didn't go very well.

Jamie is more involved with Janelle than what he was letting on to us.

So that's whenever Agent Law and Agent Hannah basically confronted him about the deception

of some of the answers of the questions.

“Jamie, those 11 questions, which ones do you think he has the most information?”

You can tell he's nervous. We can fright him with the results of the polygraph. He could tell that he is apprehensive about talking. We sort of, you know, asking the same question, you know, "What's your own relationship? Put yours and Janelle's relationship."

And you know, he kept on saying they were friends. But eventually, Jamie changes his tune and he starts singing.

“Jamie finally admitted that he went to the house.”

Jamie said that he was involved in it. He didn't do much, but he had told us that Buddy had been the one to shot the two people. And he said something about on the lines that, you know, he was the one that did the cutting of the neck. Now that Jamie is on the hook, he agrees to help real in his alleged partner in the double

murder, Janelle's father, Marvin Buddy, Potter. Yes, Jamie, if he made a phone call, Marvin, if Marvin would admit to anything during a phone call, he said, "I think he might." It's a time to mourn in Mountain City, Tennessee, Billy Payne and Billy Gene Hayworth are laid to rest.

The murdered couple survived only by their infant son. I'm just a shot today over my friends, Bill Milligene lives in our life, over someone who created her own pill. Days later, Jamie occurred confesses, and I deez the killer as Buddy Potter, investigators then have occurred call Potter hoping he'll incriminate himself.

We never did really fun the weapon that was used to kill.

Billy Payne and Billy Gene Hayworth, we took Buddy Potter statement that he took care of it to mean that he'd gotten rid of the murder weapons. With Jamie locked up, it's back to the Potter house, but this time, but he's not so welcoming to investigators. We knew he had a weapon, and at one point we thought he made a gesture to us.

He's going to do like this and we grabbed his arm. My father hugged on us and treated us like we were angels. He was a very protective father, and at all cost he was going to protect his wife and daughter.

in to an easy chair for some hard talk with that pair of TBI agents.

“"No way, you guys, yeah, I'm assume, so that's why you think of you, and that's somebody”

I still can't handle, and you kill somebody." But Buddy Potter is no Jamie occurred.

"Here's the thing, like an ass, we've been investigating this case, we help, thank you,

we know you too, I'm dead, away from the set, and then that's not just a case, it's not a good feeling, it's a no, okay, we know, that's fine, I didn't kill one, I did not kill Billy Pinky. I was not going to mess up and I didn't do." He did not, everything, and we pressed him and pressed him and pressed him.

"So hard as to get through the facts, it's like, I'm picked in my family's start with, I did not, did this tell me what happened, tell me I don't know." The agents repeatedly assure Buddy they understand how he must have felt. "I believe you were sick and tired, the most precious person in your life, being

“attacked in a ranch constantly, I know that, okay, ever since, all this crats started, I've”

been, I've had my life." "Dread of it, my life has been, yeah, they've threatened to take you down, cut her head off." "Filely, at one point, he starts to say, when people are threatening your dollar's life, when you hear people, climb, just take you catch your dollar in the rest room, and murder her.

I wonder rape her because she's a bird." Investigators getting the sense that Buddy might be ready at last to confess, just not to them, special agent Lott, has an idea.

"I made this suggestion, the Buddy would you like to call Barbara and tell her first before

you tell us, and he said, yes, so we lay him at the phone call at Barbara." "Barbara?" "Yeah.

“Before you find out somebody else that wants you to know, I was involved in it, I did it.”

I'm a son of a bitch." "I'm all the fans." "It calls over to all they've been kind of addicted to you, and now I just want to tell you first." "He told Barbara, I did it, and that's as close to the confession as we got from him."

"I wasn't confessed to it." "Yeah, but there's questions about that." "So why would he admit to it? Why would he confess?" And they took him, they took no oxygen, they took no medication, and they interviewed him

for hours when he, his oxygen gets slowed. He says things that don't make sense or are incorrect. Authorities begged to differ, saying even without his oxygen intake and medication, Potter was lucid and understood the questions. Now, the question becomes, "Who convinced, Buddy Potter, his family was in danger?"

"Why would your father go and shoot those two people?" "I don't know." "No idea." "No idea."

"You said that your father was always protective of you."

"Yes, but I don't think he would kill over silly stuff like this." Authorities say, "It didn't seem silly to Buddy Potter." He very tearfully recounted that these people had put a bounty on his daughter's head that they had threatened to rape her, cut her up into pieces, and you could tell from the way he said that he believed it.

"When I found out that they had breasted Marron Potter and Jamie, I knew what it was over, it was over-genial, and the stuff that she had pretty much put in their heads." He said he was trying to protect you. He said that they had threatened that they would chop you up and rape you and kill you. "Yes."

"Is that what you told him?" "Because they weren't telling him that directly. Somehow he had to be getting worried that these people were going to do some grievous serious harm to you." "He had to go and tell him and there was people that would tell him that there was people

out there hurt me and they'd get me."

not even the half of it.

“"You started to realize that this is bigger than just Marvin Buddy Potter.”

This is something to do with the other people in this house."

"Exactly. Exactly." More mystery, more murderers, and now a mastermind, a new character enters the story - a reported CIA assessor. "I'm killing, I'm killing people."

All part of what prosecutors call the craziest stupidest deadliest cat-fishing scheme you have ever seen. "And Billy Gane were murdered in this house." "I mean, this was one of the biggest craziest things that had happened here." "You give him the pictures of the people that you say are taunting you, hey, don't think

he's going to do anything about it." "Do you ever want Billy Gane and Bill Payne to die?" "No, never." "You didn't even want them dead." "No.

I didn't even want them hurt." "It appeared that there were some type of conspiracy here that they kept referring to a guy named Chris." "Who is Chris?" "I was the agent, tall, blonde hair and blue eyes."

Jason Bourne. "Did he ever talk about the kinds of things he did for work?" "He did." "Move over those things." "No, I'm killing people."

“"I think someone else was playing games with our minds, our computer, our life."”

"There is nothing in your lives that has prepared you to understand the Potter family." "If you let to describe Janelle and Barbara with one word, what would you use?" "Avel. That's what I would say, "Avel." "You can do pizza."

"What kind of person would take a revolver to a man who's sleeping in the shoot him in the face and then go to a woman who's running away with a child and infant in her arms." "Call blooded and he's not inside the head." "He's not called blooded."

"A whole thing so sad, so sad they died.

It's always bothered me that it had to involve my family."

"The situation of two people being murdered in their own home was a great shot." "I think there was some relief, what's Marvin and Jamie were arrested."

“"The shootings of Billy Payne and Billy Jean Hayworth seemed close to being solved, but”

unlike horseshoes and hand grenades, close doesn't count in a murder case and authorities are wondering whether all the killers have actually been caught." While Buddy Potter is interrogated, other investigators searched the Potter home and pickup truck. "I was left there along with other investigators to conduct the search of the Potter

Resis in an attempt to look for ammunition, any type of firearms that would be for a 38 special or non-millimeter." "They were searching the house." "Yes, they did do that." "Did they go into your room?"

"No, they went to my parents room first and then they went to the second

bedroom that we had, where my dad would keep his clothes and his stuff and then my room and then the computer room." "There's deputy Joe Woodard and a stunned looking Barbara and Janelle Potter during the search." "So did you notice anything odd in the house or anything unusual?" "Whenever the investigators went downstairs, there was a lot of firearms.

We had raffles, shotguns, semi, I mean, it's just one of those. An arsenal, an arsenal basically, yes." Guns in the basement, guns in the bedroom, guns in the dresser drawer, guns under the mattress. There's even an ammo belt on his oxygen tank and knives. Lots of knives all over the house, even hanging from the antlers on the wall.

The search also turns up pictures printed from Facebook, including one of the recently murdered Billie Jean Hayworth. "I've even found pictures of the victims in the living room, in the living room." "Pictures of the victims in the living room?" "Yes."

Investigators say about seven months before the murders, Janelle grabbed this photo of Billie Jean Hayworth from Facebook, emailed it to herself, then printed it off. The subject line, Billie Horr. "Printed out picture of Billie Jean Hayworth with the pothole Horr."

their baby." "Exactly."

“"You printed out a picture of her and wrote a bitch across the top?"”

"No.

My dad wanted pictures of who was bothering me."

"So you gave your dad pictures of the people who were bothering you?" "Yes." "Why don't you do that?" "He is one of those clues if he was out or if someone that was harassed me, he would want to know who they were."

"Just then, Barbara Potter does something she will come to regret." Barbara was sitting on the couch, next to Chief Investigator Joe Woodard, who was logging the evidence. At one point, Barbara picks up a stack of papers, looks at him. "The null sentence she ripped in half, and I stopped her and I said, "Give me those pieces

of paper." "Why did you fold up the picture of Billy Jean? Try to hide it and tear it up." "I didn't, and I've tried to explain that over and over." "But you didn't do that."

"I was tired, and I was kind of nervous, so I'm getting more. You know, I just started doing that. Not thinking that there was even a picture in there because I didn't know it was there. And then, whenever I picked it up, and I just made a little tear and I thought it was just..." "You didn't rip it in half."

Police aren't buying it. They charge Barbara with tampering with evidence. "They also seize what may have been Barbara and Janelle's fondest possession, the family computer."

“"I believe there was just one desktop computer that they all used, Janelle and Barbara.”

Marvin didn't get on the computer at all, that I know I don't think I've ever heard him say anything about being on the computer." "Remember how the bullet that killed Billy had been scratched, marked with an X, investigators find similar 38 caliber bullets in buddies pick-up."

Marvin had taken a knife and scratched X's into the tip of the bullet to basically create

hollow points. Investigators also discovered something in the bed of buddies pick-up that will prove to be even more incriminating in the long run, not just for buddy. They noticed several bags of shredded paper, so they went ahead and closed everything back up, and the vehicle was then transported to the TBI lab in Knoxville, Tennessee.

Those shreds of evidence leave investigators to a shadowy figure. "They kept referring to a guy named Chris that's supposedly a CIA operative or self-defense." "Who is Chris?" "This is the way."

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"Someone people, Luigi Mangione, is a modern-day Robin Hood."

People were cheering the demise of this person they'd never met.

It was a father of two, and a husband, and had a life, and was just doing a job. "From the manhood, ending in a McDonald's, in Altuna, Pennsylvania, to what authorities are saying about a possible motive, I'm ABC News Legal Analyst Brian Buckmeyer, listen to Bird and a Proof, Luigi Mangione, wherever you get your podcasts." Marvin Buddy Potter is in jail, awaiting trial, and so is Janelle Potter's boyfriend, Jamie

Curd. But the feeling in town and at the courthouse, is that justice has not been fully served." "I'm bym Janelle." " Immediately." "Because I mean, it was her fault. She was the one that we was friends with, and she

was the one that started the laws." Janelle should have been held, just as accountable as they are." Billie Jean's sisters, Beverly and Janey, say, "Even before the murders, they believed Janelle was the troublemaker." "It's jealousy, attention, and heart since she would do the same thing to Billie Jean. She would

follow them around all the time. Billie would call me and she would like Janelle's behind me. There she is again. I mean, it's constantly." "If you were to describe Janelle and Barbara with one word, what would you use?"

"That's what I would say, "Aval."

It was several months after the arrest of Jamie and Buddy that I came into the case. I knew there was some thought in the community that the women were behind the killings, but they hadn't been charged."

“"I think that Janelle and Barbara were the ring leaders. I think they were the ones that”

were the manipulators, and I think they convinced Marvin and Jamie to do something awful to Billie Jean and they followed through with it." " Early on, we wanted to charge Barbara and Janelle, but really didn't have enough." "We've mentioned yesterday about Potter's daughter. She was in court today as an observer, although she has not been charged with any crime at this point prosecutors say she is at

the center of this investigation. They say she is the common link to all of the parties involved."

"Throughout the investigation, Buddy maintained that Barbara and Janelle really didn't have

anything to do with the homicides that he acted, you know, laterally, in an attempt to protect his family." "Now, investigators take note of Barbara Potter's conversation with Jamie Kurt when he made that phone call to the house after his confession."

“"Whenever, Jamie had called their residence, Barbara was the one that first answered the”

phone." "Did it go all right?" "Yeah." "Really?" "Yeah."

"And they just let go and that's it. It's over."

"Yeah." "Well, that's wonderful. We've been planner herself. Janelle is all an angel a day. Come in the computer room. And I said, "Oh, that's good. We've all been praying so hard." "And, you know, she was asking how did the polygraph go?" "Did you have a live detector?"

"Yeah." "And you passed it." "Yeah." "Well, that's wonderful. I'm so glad, honey." "And investigators are even more suspicious of Barbara's reaction when her husband calls

and confesses to murder." After his confession, he made a recorded phone call to his wife Barbara where he told her that, "I did it. I killed them." "Then before you find out, somebody else wants you to know, I was involved in it. I did it." "I'm on the fence."

In immediately, Barbara turns into Mama Bear saying, "Oh, no, honey, you didn't. You were right here the whole time. Tell them that you didn't do it. I saw you. There's no way you could have done it. You were right here next to me all night." "You don't have no rest and you don't have your husband. I'm very nice, self-rightening." "I'm sorry. I'm just a little mad at him or her."

"Have a nurse trust you?" "No." "Well, they said a nurse was checking you to tell her what that's your honor and what the rocks is in the water." "But, um, do me to just take. You know, you're not here. You're not here. You're not

here. You're not here."

“"I don't think she was really shocked. It's just like, I think she was shocked. She was”

probably shocked that he told. But I don't think that she was shocked that he had done it." "In my mind, I think she knew that he did it." "I don't know that he did it. As far as I know, he was in my home all night. He was in that lounge chair a sleep." "Not in bed, though."

"He sat up at night every night because of what was happening. And when I woke up at 7 o'clock, he was in bed. I thought he was in a lounge chair." "He came to bed. I didn't hear him come to bed." "She was telling Marvin that you didn't have anything to do with that. I saw you. You were here all night." "This is not your thing. She was here. We were talking about her. You're sorry, you're so

wrong." "She was trying to convince him that no you didn't do this." "I didn't. She was trying to fix you. I didn't know that you didn't have anything to do with that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm here. I found you." In that call, Janelle also encourages her father to claim he's innocent. "Bye." "Yes. Are you okay?" "No, Janelle. I'm so excited." "I mean, don't worry about it." "You just take care of yourself." "Sail, but this is already. You didn't do anything you're so fine. You didn't have to do this."

In 2013, Buddy Potter is found guilty of the murders of Billy Payne and Billy Jean-Hayworth,

In Barbara and Janelle, no more than they're saying, authorities suspect those three trash bags found in Buddy's pick-up

“could contain a shredded paper trail. "We took those shredded documents. However,”

he just spent a month of her life taping those back together." In what they were, were printouts of emails, printouts of instant messages, printouts of pictures from Facebook, emails from Barbara, emails from Janelle. Authorities said that Buddy Potter didn't have much use for the computer, so they said that Barbara would pull the family protector into the online war of words,

by printing out the alarming emails and social media posts and anything she wanted him to see. Barbara tells Buddy about everything that goes on and sort of gets him all upset, because Janelle's upset, because he's afraid somebody's going to hurt me. But some of those emails also talk about murder. You know, they talked about killing Billy Jean.

“It appeared that there were some type of conspiracy here. They kept referring to a guy named Chris.”

That supposedly a CIA operative or something. Who was Chris? I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. When Jamie Kerg was interviewed, at the end, he asked, "Here's the CIA here, the CIA." Very strange collision to me. I didn't have the CIA.

I had certainly never experienced anything like this in my career to that point,

and I can say a decade later that I haven't seen anything else like it since. We knew that they had to be looking at a computer somewhere, because they're the type that's always got to be doing something all the computer. We are going to the library, right in the middle of town. Law enforcement isn't ready to close the book on the murders of Billy Payne and Billy Jean Hayworth.

Investigators follow Barbara and Janelle, photographing their forward explorer outside. So we might contact with the library, and the library said that they usually came here. So they called us whenever they were here.

The judge got a share from her, but did keep an eye on the Potter women,

and there is surveillance video of them going to the local library. They videotaped them sending at these two computers, and they got them as they walked through. And they even went and was shining at the keyfob camera through the books just so that we can see what they were doing each. They were logging onto topics, logging into their email, logging onto Facebook,

and just continuing this narrative of Janelle being a victim. Not a crime, but evidence investigators say of how obsessed these two women are with what people are saying about them online even after two people have been murdered. It shows Janelle has to have a computer to know what's going on and you know, what are they saying about her, that way she can reply back.

And now, enters one of the spookiest characters ever to appear in a murder investigation. His name is Chris. After we did Sabina's search warrants in God, emails, and some message records, text message records, we started seeing this name Chris Poppa. Marbra is talking back and forth to supposedly a C.I.A. agent named Chris.

When Janie Kurt makes his confession, everything's done. There's silence in the room and Janie just almost sudden asked, "I've got one question I need to ask you." Let me go, "What's that?" "Here's the C.I.A. here." C.I.A., no.

“Mike and Scott were sort of shocked by, you know, what did that even come from?”

The officers didn't know what he was talking about. I didn't get to know the C.I.A. He assumed and probably hoped that the C.I.A was on the other side of that door ready to take this case away from the T.B.I. and set him free. Who is Chris? I was the agent, um, tall, blonde hair and blue eyes.

Jason Bourne, what kind of stuff did he do? Um, he said he was down here to protect me or to protect my parents.

There was Titus could be and they were close. Barbara would receive emails from this guy, Chris, but the emails were still coming from Janelle Potter's email address. Do you find it odd that Chris was written from your personal account

“that all those emails were written from your personal account?”

Yes. And you never noticed that?

You never asked the question and all of that correspondents, there was not a single question. Hey, why is this person running from my account? Yes, I never showed up, but yes, I had asked how I emailed him through my email. And I said, you know, how do you get my, um, screaming past word? I changed my past word lots of times, I've done everything.

It really does seem like bad fantasy fiction. A secret agent mixed up in a small town drama, falling for a damsel in distress. He would never show up in person. I would ask him to come over or meet me, nothing. Had you feel about him? Well, he was a friend. I mean, he wasn't just a friend, he was...

From the emails he read. It seemed like you guys were very, very intimate.

Um, we weren't. Actually, you told my mom, he went to marry me at one point. Janelle says this, Chris seems to know her as well as she knows herself. He would say things like, well, I saw you today and he would tell me what I was wearing, what I was doing, how my hair was, and I was like, okay, this is weird. On Kenny. He really weird.

Chris even emails Jamie Kurt via Janelle's account, gushing about Janelle. She just put up some new picks on Facebook. You might want to look, she is cute, and love advice, tips on how to be a better boyfriend to Janelle. There were some Chris emails out there where Chris would suggest, "Why don't you get Janelle to go out with you tonight and take her out somewhere?"

Here's romantic tradecraft CIA Chris probably did not pick up it Langley, but he offers it to Jamie.

Make sure you have candles and a card, make the bed really pretty, and just love on her. She is a wonderful, sweet, caring girl. But Chris also has a cold streak, and he's supposedly a bloodthirsty assassin. Did he ever talk about the kinds of things he did for work? "Hey gang, what are those things?"

"I'm killing, I'm killing people." CIA Chris claims he's monitoring Billy Payne and Billy Jean Hayward, has their house bug, phone's tab, says he knows her up to no good. He was watching these people, he said that we're harassing her on the computer.

“"You need to say how upset he was, you know why would anyone want to mistreat me?"”

"He got mad." "Yes." "How mad did he get?" "I got mad, I mean he got really mad." "He wanted to hurt everybody."

"Who specifically did he want to hurt?" "I think it was Bill, Billy Jean. Everyone who was picking on me. Anyone that picked on me was after." The email show CIA Chris is angry. Authorities say he and Barbara talk about settling scores. "And this was actually in the shredded documents that were found in the truck. She writes to Chris. But it's so mad and I'm 100% behind whatever happens.

You guys meet when you are ready, Chris. Maybe bugging you CIA guns, et cetera for his protection. Get the jobs done, you know. They all need to go and the ones left need to be given a big scare as they watch and wonder, "Am I next?" "That's chilling." "The job is obviously the murder."

"Absolutely." "Job needs to get done." "Absolutely." "But blood can't do it by himself. He needs CIA guns with him."

“"At this point identifying this fantastic character, CIA Chris becomes key to closing this murder kits."”

"Who is Chris?" "Is Jamie Kurt Chris?" "Do you know?" "I don't know." "I can do this." "And we're done there."

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"All right, maybe not it does." "In Florida, crime has no off-season." "I just heard you were shot at today with a rocket launcher." "A missed. RJ Decker from his Tuesday, 10-9 Central on ABC next day on Hulu." In the months after Billy Payne and Billy Gene Hayworth were gone down,

Janelle and Barbara Potter were porting threatened by members of the community,

who suspected that the Potter women were also involved in the murders. And a lot of people are sort of harassing them. "They're trying to shut me up, but I don't like this because I'm very sick." "They threw rocks at the house. I was kind of pleased with it." "They even throw rocks in the yard there just to leave a message with Billy Gene's name on it, with Bill's name on it."

Their guardian angel, CIA, Chris, seems to be missing an action. But when authorities take a closer look at the computer, seized from the Potter house, they have a eureka moment. And that's because the IP address on Chris's emails leads back to only one place.

"Every one of them pointed straight back to Barbara and Janelle's home address." "He was the same IP address, meaning that the emails were all generated at the house." Authorities develop a theory that Janelle's a sort of Kaiser Sose of the keyboard.

“"Remember him from the movie "The Usual suspects?" "I work for Kaiser Sose."”

"There is no Kaiser Sose." Creating the identity of Chris to con those closest to her and convince them that she's in danger and needs help. "Once we started looking at the communications between the Potter family, between Chris, between Jamie Kirk."

"That's when we started building the case against Barbara and Janelle." Investigators have their theory but no definitive proof. At least not until the Potter women show up at the Sheriff's Office to file complaints of harassment. "That's when authorities divide the test."

"I had them top out statements so that we can see how Barbara writes and see how Janelle writes." The reports that they made about this alleged harassment, the word choice, the spelling, the grammar, the punctuation, was compared against these emails and it was interesting that this Chris character had the same spelling mistakes, had the same grammar mistakes as Janelle.

That's when the pieces started falling into place. Authorities believe that Janelle wrote messages as Chris to her mother, Barbara, that falsely reported threats of rape and murder by the victims. "Barwood takes this information and shows it to buddy. Buddy looked.

Look what they're trying to do to Janelle. Look what they're trying to do. The family that is pushed him to his limit." Marvin Potter and Barbara Potter truly believed these people were out to harm Janelle.

They really felt that people were out to kill her. She knew exactly what to do to get to her mom. She knew exactly what to do to get to her dad. Janelle manipulated everybody that she dealt with. Janelle was writing these crazy emails.

Janelle was pretending to be the CIA agent. She was masterminding a murder conspiracy.

The events that she said in the motion ultimately resulted in the death of two innocent people.

So she's catfishing her mom from the same house from the same computer. "It's hard to believe that you could do that from the same house." "This is the worst catfishing I've ever heard of." "Yeah, I mean it's beyond absurd." "It all catfish cases, at some point the victim of the catfishing is guilty of some degree of being naive."

Barbara has no idea that Janelle is using the same computer and her own email address to create the fictitious Chris. She bought it her client in secret. "I don't think she created anyone.

“I think someone else was playing games with our minds, our computer, our life."”

But Janelle's mother, Barbara, is about to go from naive, tin of ferris, and in the email exchanges with Chris, sure sounds like she really wants Billy Payne and Billy Jane Hayworth dead. In one email, Barbara writes, "We've had enough. No one wants to kill anyone, but we will."

"I didn't." "Yeah, you did. From these emails." "Well, you can believe those emails if you want.

I didn't never want anyone dead, and I would never plan a murder.

That is not me." "And you write, I will kill if I have to. Not just her, but kill." "That's not me." "That is not me."

Barbara says someone hacked into her email, but authorities don't buy it. They say that her writing style from the harassment complaints matches what's in the emails to Chris. The more I study, the more I realize these crimes do not happen without these two women prodding these mental law. A year and a half after the murder was at Billy Payne and Billy Jane Hayworth,

Barbara Potter and her 32-year-old daughter, Janelle, are under arrest for murder. "We finally got the word from the D.A. to go ahead and arrest." "From mother and daughter, charged with murder." "You used to killing the Johnson County couple." Barbara and Janelle Potter are charged with first-degree murder of Bill Payne Jr.

and Billy Jane Hayworth. "I don't, but joy."

“"I think I said how a little about Tom."”

Authorities claimed Janelle's motive for creating Chris was jealousy. If Janelle couldn't have Billy Payne, nobody could have. Janelle had a crush on Bill Payne and the Chris emails start after Billy Jane Hayworth moves in with Bill Payne and gets pregnant. Chris would talk about the baby, the baby tower.

They would call in that damn baby that baby needs to die. No one talks that way about an infant, other than a woman perhaps who is jealous that that's not her infant. Janelle is behind bars at the Johnson County Jail in 2015 when she and her attorney sat down for an interview with me about the case.

"You don't have any responsibility for the murder of Billy Payne." "Billy Jane." "No." "No." "No."

"You hated them." "No, I didn't."

“"You hated them enough to tell your father that they were really torturing you and you must”

have hated them if what you say is true that they were harassing you time after time." "I didn't like how I just disliked them. I wanted to quit. I wanted to harass, met the staff.

I went through a lot with them, but I never wished them day and ever wanted them day."

"And then I bring up Chris. Chris was you. You are Chris. You invented him." "No, I didn't."

"You didn't." "No." "Just happen to be from your email, happen to know all the most intimate details of value, and it just so happened to the only emails Chris has ever written are exclusively about you now." "No, because he was writing to my mom and he was writing to Jamie."

"Of course from your computer with your fingertips. It was from your email address. I don't think we're going to get into that. She said everything needs back to Chris." Chris apparently created this scenario.

"She's dead.

“She's not Chris, and that's what she made to me."”

"And do this." General Potter shuts down in tears and walks out of our interview. General may deny the authorities allegations that she is Chris, and that she's behind the online threats.

But when this case actually does go to trial, you're never going to believe who shows up.

"My name is Christopher Jaden." Turns out Chris isn't total fiction. In the Johnson County community, there is an immense amount of anticipation for this trial and this was one of the biggest, craziest things that had happened years. The interest in it never really died down.

The trial of a mother-in-daughter charged with murder for the 2012 deaths of a Johnson County couple underway right now in Jonesboro. The biggest factors in Barbara and Elle's trial was making the jury understand that all of this drama was being driven by Janelle. There is nothing in your lives that has prepared you to understand the Potter family.

Investigators realize that there are even more people than they thought caught up in Janelle's web. Turns out, Janelle does know a real person named Chris. We were able to get Chris Jaden, the real Chris to come down to court. My name is Christopher Jaden.

We determined what Chris Jaden was a guy that in Elle went to his school with. She was one of those kids that just very strange ends up he was a police officer and Delaware. When we asked him directly, do you work for the CIA?

always had in her back pocket, but Cameron Hyder, who represented Janelle, tried to present

“her as not capable of doing something like this.”

She is not capable of directing anyone to commit murder. It's just not in her. Janelle's defense attorney even called an expert to testify about Janelle's level of intelligence. "There is barely any fear of cognitiveliest function and very much for that hate shot." She may be operating on a fourth grade level, but she's got a Ph.D. in manipulation.

You know, even kids can manipulate their parents and she did it to the healed. "She always had my parents to go to and then she had promised to look at my school to prepare it." Would you say that she was intelligent? She was more intelligent than people gave her credit for.

In what way? "Men-ipulative."

So, she wasn't good at schoolwork, but she was good at working people.

"Yes." Especially her parents. "Yes."

“"It's very difficult for Barbara to discern what is fact and what's fiction.”

She has been catfish." Prosecutors say that despite Barbara being entangled in Janelle's manipulation, she still bears responsibility for the murders. Prosecutors have found evidence that they say shows that Barbara knew exactly what was going to happen to Billy Payne and Billy Jean Hayward.

She had emailed herself a link to a Billy Graham article saying, "Can God forgive a murder?" A couple weeks before the murders, you had searched, "Can God forgive a murder?" "No, I did. That's not me.

No. I did not. I saw that in court. I said, "Where did that come from?" Why would I do that?

I don't want anybody murdered." Today the state called six witnesses to the stand, one of which we've been anticipating all week. Mr. Jamie Kurt. We had worked out a plea deal with Jamie Kurt in exchange for his cooperation.

I can't kill nobody, I mean, having a gun and being happy to use, it's to you. Thanks.

“Looking back on it, do you feel like you've been manipulated by a part of family?”

Yes. If you're wanting the case to be everyone sitting around a table, mapping out how they're

going to go do the killing, you know, we never had that, our belief was that cozying

up to Jamie was an effort to get Jamie conditioned to assist buddy. Jamie Kurt ultimately pleaded guilty to facilitation of first-degree murder and received two concurrent sentences of 25 years. One thing it was very telling about Janelle being involved in the preparation for the killing is the text messaging she does with Jamie up through the morning.

She's telling Jamie, lead yourself on at home. The message is on there, you know, showed that starting to truck and he's on his way. And then all of a sudden, the text messaging ends. And presumably around five in the morning, buddy picks up Jamie and they drive over there. Also that, to me, linked her, no one exactly what was going to happen.

Where's the evidence, easy to say, part of truth? This was an act of an overprotective father who went way too far. My client is not culpable. Marvin Potter is behind bars and is fully culpable for these homicides as his Jamie Kurt. This may have been more than what Barbara original intended, but that doesn't change what

they did. That doesn't change how they manipulated buddy Potter and Jamie Kurt into taking this drastic, horrible action. Yes, in this case, then complete it, now back to you to instruct you as to the law. It was up to a jury to decide whether this duo, Janelle Potter and Barbara Potter were capable

of plotting a double murder. Now the jury must deliberate the Potter women's fate. The families of the victims were in court today. It was just like your sitting arrow pins and needles. And now, family loyalties begin to fray.

I'm not going to cover anybody else. Take care of myself right now. You wouldn't take a hit for your daughter. Less than 24 hours after closing arguments, the jury delivers a verdict in Barbara and Janelle's double murder trial.

The families of the victims were in court today. It was just like your sitting arrow pins and needles. It's been physically and emotionally exhausting.

We had a jury funded in the Janelle Potter, guilty of the first three murder.

And Barbara made Potter, guilty of the first man murder. Barbara and Janelle were both found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. Barbara was also convicted of tampering with evidence. It's a release that the most responsible is going to be held accountable.

It was hard. We have justice.

“This part's over, but he will never be ever. I think about it every day.”

I know, me. God knows me. Did you ever want Billy Jean and Bill Paine to die? No, never. You didn't even want them dead. No.

It seems to me that you are either completely innocent and blame this in this. Or you are an exquisite liar. Oh, wow, well, what do you believe? The victim's families have the last word at a sentencing hearing. With Billy Paine's mother addressing the potters directly.

“Barbara, you want to know if you're going to hand your co-mail.”

And if I have to forgive you in your view, stay out of hand. I'll see you later. Janelle Potter, go to your best sense to determine the imprisonment of a lie. Barbara, go to your best sense to your imprisonment of a lie. Barbara Potter's post-conviction attorney was able to latch on to a conflict of interest

that her trial counsel had by representing both Barbara Potter and her husband. So, she gets a new trial. It starts back from square one. Rather than go through all of that, she had requested to enter into a plea agreement. I have a clean conscience about having a part of this, but I'm a part of it because I've

been pulled into it. You wouldn't take a hit for your daughter? I love her, but I'm not going to serve life for her now.

So here's after our conversation where Barbara insisted she was innocent, she finally

admits guilt. I've been here. Barbara pleads guilty to facilitation, a first-degree murder. Her original sentence was life without parole. This plea agreement changes that, making her eligible for parole.

Today, and Buddy Potter also filed for appeal, but they were denied. This is a story that has shaken that little mountain town for over a decade now, and what remains etched in everyone's minds is the memories of the victims, Billy Payne and Billy Jeane, and their infant son Tyler. It's the little boy, just flanking about him, just breaks my heart.

“If you're lucky enough to meet people who, I think, touch everybody they come in contact”

with, and that was Bill and Billy Jeane.

They were just always happy and love life.

And above all, the couple loved their son, Tyler. After the murders, he was taken in by his maternal grandmother. He's now 12 years old. Meanwhile, Janelle's secret boyfriend and codependent Jamie Kurt has now been released from prison on parole he declined to be interviewed.

That is a program for tonight. I'm David Newer. And I'm Deborah Roberts from all of us here at 2020 and ABC News, Good Night. We want to real change to do something and X is the drop, a snowfall saga, new series now streaming on Hulu.