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July 23rd, it was about 11.30 at night. What is the address of your emergency? I'm in front of Davis High School. You have no idea what kind of a calls come in. My next bleeding, I need help quick.

Okay, what happened? I'd like to commit suicide, please help me. The minute I turned around and says, this female's tried to cut her own throat. There's a greater urgency. How much are you bleeding?

Oh, my shirt is so... That means she's losing blood quickly. What's your name? Tiffany Meade. Okay, did anybody with you Tiffany?

My husband and my son. I then asked to speak to her husband.

“Do you have a dry clean cloth that you can apply pressure to her neck?”

I got my shirt. Well, we need something. Are you applying pressure? Yes, she has her hand on herself. There's anything in your card that you can put against her neck.

You're shirt, your son's shirt. You know, I couldn't understand why isn't he in more of an urgent manner to put pressure on her throat? This is about where I was driving when I was dispatched. I can see the ambulance on the side of the road by the intersection. I grabbed my paramedic equipment out of the back and I approached her car.

Tiffany was sitting in the driver's seat. Her baby was in the back seat. And her estranged husband was pacing back and forth on the sidewalk next to the car. Telling me over and over that she's crazy that she had tried to kill herself. He had no shirt on.

I noticed he had blood all over his hands. She's just sitting right in her driver's seat of her vehicle. With her hands on her neck like that. With what I found out later was his shirt. But I knew she was in really bad shape.

It was a really severe wound. Tell me about why. It was straight across her neck all the way across. How could she still talk? So her trickier had not been damaged.

And so you're able to talk. The blood all over the car was just, it was unbelievable. I'm looking at this and I'm like, there's no way that somebody's going to be able to survive this. Usually when people stab themselves, their injuries aren't very significant.

She was critical when she came in.

She just about cut off her head. There was no way that she could have done that to herself. I did not that deep. I knew that it was called in as an attempted suicide. I'm thinking, what am I looking at here?

“Did you ever expect the case to take you where it did?”

No, not in a million years. [Music] Just after midnight on July 24, 2013. All right, walk over this way, isn't it? Sergeant Bob Thompson arrived at the scenes where Tiffany

needed been found with her throat cut. And what did you know at that point? Absolutely nothing. Tiffany had already been rushed to the hospital. But before she left, she changed her story.

Telling deputies that it was actually her estranged husband, Chris Irman, who attacked her. She told Deputy Sorenson, keeping away from me. He did this to me and saved my baby. If she's called this in as a suicide, and now she's saying,

he really did this. You don't know what to believe at that moment, right? It's a bit of a conundrum. Tiffany's car was at the scene. But Thompson noted something didn't look quite right.

There was blood on the outside of the door, and I'm thinking, well, with that blood get there.

The detective learned Tiffany and her husband had first met up

at a secluded park a mile away.

And I can see the blood.

“So now I know, okay, this must have happened outside of the car.”

And before she started driving.

Right. This will be tried to cut herself. And she's clearly injured to get in a car and drive. Did that make sense? Didn't make a sense at all.

Thompson still wasn't sure what kind of crime he was dealing with. If any, do you know whether it's a attempted suicide, an actual suicide, attempted murder or a murder? I have no idea. He didn't know Tiffany's condition.

However, there was someone in custody. Chris Ertman. He hadn't been officially arrested, but he was not free to leave. Ertman was photographed.

His clothes were taken as evidence. And then Thompson wanted to hear what Ertman had to say. Why are you here? Well, she's trying to come into a side. And I helped her out.

And then exactly help her out. But I tried to save her. I assisted in saving her. Okay. Thompson learned that Ertman worked for a painting contractor.

He and his wife have been married five years and had two children. Two-year-old Noah. And why it was almost four. The couple was divorcing. And had met that night.

So Ertman could give her a child support check. She gave me a chance if you were to. We don't know how she did. Be it with her life to go. Okay.

She couldn't say I should sort of tell. According to Ertman, Tiffany was taking anti-depressants. She has a history of being suicide. People don't commit suicide that way. Especially for a mother to do it in front of her child.

Didn't make sense to me. And neither did Ertman's oddly calm demeanor. Was he concerned about his, his estranged wife? Uh, no. He didn't ask once.

How she was doing?

And he never asked where his child was.

But what Thompson wanted most from Ertman?

“Were details about what led to his wife's horrific injuries?”

Why don't remember it? But if you don't mind it, try to read it while talking about it anymore. Why wouldn't you remember? It just happened a few hours ago. But he can't remember any details.

And what's going through your head? That he did this. Ertman was arrested and charged with attempted murder. Attempted, because somehow, despite the devastating injuries, Tiffany need survived.

You can tell me where he got you. He started over here. He went straight across. He stopped right before my artery on this side. It's been more than five years, but Tiffany is permanently scarred.

Every time you look in the mirror, Are you reminded of that night? I have a way of looking on the mirror as much as possible. You know, this girl is strong. She is strong, Ertman.

At the time, Lieutenant Jen Daley was Bob Thompson's partner on this case, and his boss. She vividly remembers arriving at the hospital

to get a statement from the 22-year-old who was in critical condition.

“I will never forget I can still see her laying in that hospital bed.”

I'm looking at that wound, and the whole time I'm thinking, "How?" Tiffany told Daley, She had only agreed to meet her estranged husband, because he promised to bring that child support check. Their relationship was now so toxic.

They mostly communicated by text. He told me not to bring anyone. He kept reminding me to come along. Come along. Tiffany texted that she would have to bring to your old Noah.

At the last minute, Ertman picked this out of the way park to meet. They come in from just the east side here, so they pull in here. This is where her car was parked. So Tiffany's here, right?

We've got some empty space. Yes. Chris pulls in there. They walked towards each other. I was terrified.

He had this look. He was so determined coming at me. I didn't know what he was going to do. She says suddenly, Ertman grabbed her in a bear hug and backed her up against her car door.

Anyhow, one hand on my mouth.

And he slipped my throat.

“And as he's slidding my throat, he says,”

"Don't scream. Stay calm." And I didn't scream. And I told him I was getting dizzy. So he opened my car door for me.

So that I could sit. And he said, "You know what I want. Say it." So I said, "I love you." And I'll get back with you.

And then he said, "Silent with the kiss." And he leaned in. And he kissed me as blood's pouring out of my neck. Then he said that we needed to come up with the story. If I was going to call 911.

So I said, "Okay. I'll tell him what I really want me to do."

But first, Tiffany had to get herself out of this remote area.

I had to get somewhere where I could explain to 911 where I was.

“All I could think was I had to get my baby a safety.”

Somehow, Tiffany managed to drive with one hand on the steering wheel. The other holding back the blood pouring from her wound when she got to this bus stop with her husband beside her. He let her call 911.

What happened? I'd great to come here through with it. Please help me. As soon as there were sheriff's between me and Chris, I let him know.

Chris did this. He tried to kill me. Line in the ambulance, near dad. She called her mother. She called her.

She said, "But." Chris had tried to kill her and she needed me to pick up Noah. I had no idea what she was going through the time.

“As I was laying in the ambulance looking up at the lights,”

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Let's start with a test for you today. On shopify.de/record. Chris Hertman was in custody and charged with attempting to murder his ex-wife. Something unimaginable five years earlier

when the couple first met online. Tiffany was a high school senior. He was in the army. He was a really sweet. Were you in love?

I thought I was. Just six weeks later, they all wrote. It wasn't long before they became parents. But when Ertman returned from his deployment in Iraq, Tiffany says he became emotionally abusive and very volatile.

He could change on the drop of a dime. Just little things would make him so angry.

Although he never hit her,

she lived in fear of his rages. Why did you stay? The biggest reason I was scared. I didn't think I could do it on my own. But in late 2012, Tiffany finally had enough

and fled with her boys. They moved in with her parents, and she moved on with her life, working full time and going to college at night. She even started dating a new guy.

How did Chris take you, leaving? Not well. It was always come back to me. You're not going to be able to do this by yourself. But the facts of what happened that night

weren't as clear cut as detectives Jen Daley and Bob Thompson thought. It's dark. Do you take a quick picture of us, Anne? No one sees or hears anything

and you have Chris Hartman saying one thing and you have Tiffany needs say to completely different thing. He said she said. They didn't even have the knife. Use the slit Tiffany needs throat.

holding her bloody neck.

“Her estranged husband toss the knife out the window”

into this deep ravine.

It's so thick from years of the overgrowth

and we did everything to uncover that knife, because I mean metal detectors could diver dogs. And you think, "Oh, my goodness, are we going to lose the case because of something like that?"

I mean, if you had the knife, and you could see whether his DNA was on the knife, that's going to help the case. More fingerprints or fingerprints. It's very difficult without some physical evidence

to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Adding to Daley and Thompson's concerns, a month after the attack, the judge received this unsigned letter.

I am a good friend of Tiffany,

but I can't see letting this happen to Chris for his kids' sake. The letter writer claimed Tiffany had cut her own throat and was trying to frame Chris Ertman, exactly what he had told police.

Any side of you think, "Oh, my God, could that be true?" We took this as something that was credible. I mean, obviously, this needed to be followed up on it. The return address was from a Mary Olson in Ogden, on Monroe Street.

But as the detective soon discovered, the address didn't exist, and it seemed neither did Mary Olson. I run the driver's license of every Mary Olson

in the state of Utah that roughly matched Tiffany's age group.

Nothing. There's nothing. I didn't even know anyone named Mary at the time. Who do you think arranged for that letter? There's no doubt in my mind that Chris did it. Davis County attorneys Richard Larson and Jason Nelson

also suspected an Ertman connection, but they still needed proof to tie Ertman to the letter and to bolster their attempted murder case against him. We were absolutely convinced that he had inflicted the injury. That wasn't the big question.

The big question was, "What was his intent when he did it?" This case rose and fell based on that one question. Was Chris Ertman actually trying to kill his estranged wife or merely injure and scare her? The defense could argue that Chris let Tiffany call 911

and it gave her his shirt to help stop the bleeding.

“Do you have a dry clean cloth that you can apply pressure to her neck?”

I got my shirt. Prosecutors fear, without more evidence, jurors might include that this was an aggravated assault, not an attempted murder, which meant Ertman could be out of prison in a year. What's your fear if he gets it? He'll try it again.

I was angry, internally angry. I couldn't even wrap my head around it that you could do that to a human being in front of a child and a year later, you're free to walk around. She looked at us and said, "That's not good enough."

Jen daily believed that making sure Chris Ertman stayed locked up was the only way to keep Tiffany alive. And I said, "I want to start listening to Jell phone calls." Hello, this is a prepaid collect call from this and inmateette, Davis County Jail, Utah.

A month after Ertman was arrested, Daley started listening to his phone calls. Something every inmate is warned about repeatedly. This call is subject to recording and monitoring. What's the chance he's going to say anything

and culminating on a phone call? Stranger things have happened. I don't want to do it over the phone, Seth. I really wanted a confession because if we got the confession

“that that's what his intent was, then I knew we could put him away longer.”

So I listened and I listened some more and I listened some more after that. Daley listened to hundreds of phone calls and watched endless Jailhouse visits. And people were coming in my office and told me, "I can't believe you're still listening to it

and I would look at them and say neither can I. I would like to stick pencils in my ears." But with no revelations, after three months, Daley reluctantly gave up. "My gut kept telling me you've got to keep listening.

It's there, it's there." So she started again, picking up where she left off. What's his name? What if that's where his confession is? Daley had gotten up to Earthman's December 2013 calls.

You may start the conversation now.

“This call, he was on the phone with his father.”

Right down this name, I'm a Raymond. You ain't meant? Yeah. Until Taney just took him and told him that I'm in here. And I took a yellow sticky note, that exact size.

When like this, exactly that size. And I wrote the name on that yellow sticky pad. She had no idea of the name at any significance.

To Taney, the face of that day, finally.

I will. But as she listened to more calls. Did you let your answer call that one day? It was clear to Daley that for Chris Erpman, contacting this dude was urgent.

She didn't have to do that, bro. I was trying to give him a right right of two. He can't. Yeah, what's his name again? Dad has a right now.

Erpman only mentioned his friend's name once. But that's all Jen Daley needed. I looked at that sticky pad. Still had that name right on it.

And I pulled it off, and I remember it was stuck to my index finger.

And I walked down the hallway in the his office. And I held my hand out just like this. And I said, I need you to find this guy. Find him for me. What's been the hardest part?

What's been the toughest for you? Getting used to all my new fears. Things that most people don't think twice about. For Tiffany Meade, memories of that harrowing July night are everywhere. Driving at night, the sound of dripping water, dripping water why.

Because I heard my blood dripping on the car into a pool. Lieutenant Jen Daley was convinced that keeping Chris Erpman behind bars

“was the only way to keep Tiffany's safe.”

And she knew she was on to something with that sticky note. But ever you heard in January of 2014, changed everything in this.

It took this case on a place that we never saw coming.

It turned out the Raymond Erpman mentioned is a former inmate. We're only using his first name. He had served time on a methamphetamine possession charge. Now out on probation. Raymond agreed to talk with the detectives on camera.

Although he wasn't quite sure what about. Raymond, we want to ask you some questions about when you ran our jail. Okay, I spent 90 days in Davis County. And so I'm doing pretty good.

Because we have all this been skinny and weak and ridiculous all the time who's canon on my lifestyle. He's a character. But when he talks, it's instantly credible. He doesn't have anything to hide.

Until Sergeant Thompson brought up Chris Erpman and something changed. Did you get to know any of the inmates in there? What about a guy named Christopher Erpman? Oh, yeah. He's a quiet guy.

Did he ever talk about the situation that he was in with this ex-wife and all that stuff? Yeah. Tell me about that. What happened in jail stayed in jail, man?

But daily side chants to appeal to Raymond's conscience. There's a time to do much right. And this is one of those moments in your life that you can start with that. It worked. Okay, so what do you want to know specifically?

Tell me about his conversations. What do you know? It just... It made a guilt, man, I guess. Like that, he's the one that hurt his throat.

“For prosecutor Richard Larson, that was a crucial admission from Erpman.”

Up until that point, he claimed that he had no involvement. And that wasn't all. Raymond told them about a handwritten letter that Erpman gave him to copy once he got out of jail. Saying that I was his wife to the judge

that is providing a risk case saying that she admitted that she lied and that the allegations were false. It sounded a lot like the other letter from Mary Olson. Remember, authorities suspected it was orchestrated by Erpman, but they couldn't prove it.

If they could find this letter in Erpman's handwriting, they could charge him with obstruction of justice.

Yeah, where's it at? I have to find it.

Do I think it's an argument?

“And while Raymond was getting things off his chest,”

Thompson took a chance. Did he ever ask you to do anything to Tiffany? Uh... Yeah. That question was purely just a shot in the dark.

Tell me about that. He just asked me if I had the connections to arrange for bad things that happened to him. I told him that I did not. And you can see, Jen.

Olson leans forward, like, holy cow. What is that bad thing? What about things? To arrange her death specifically. According to Raymond,

Erpman asked him to hire a hip man to silence Tiffany for good. At that moment, we realized that this has gone to a whole new level, where we've got somebody who's in custody

“that is still trying to orchestrate the death of his victim.”

And if they could prove that Chris Erpman was looking to put out a head on Tiffany, they could charge him with another crime. Solicitation to commit aggravated murder, potentially ensuring that he would stay behind bars

for the rest of his life.

But first, they had to warn Tiffany.

He wanted to have me killed. He wanted to have someone else do what he couldn't. I remember everyone was asleep, just sitting on the floor, crying, and rocking back and forth.

And wondering if I could ever leave the house again. And the case against Erpman got stronger when Raymond was able to find that Erpman letter. They remember Jen and Bob coming in with great big smiles on their face, and they're like, "We've got it."

A hand-riding analysis confirmed that Erpman had written it. Next, Daly and Thompson sent Raymond back in to visit Erpman through the jail's video conference system. "Are you holding up, bro?"

"I'm not bad, you know?" "I'm just showing." The goal to get Erpman on tape, telling Raymond, to send that letter to the judge, and more important, to order a hit.

"I've still got that letter, dude. Like, I've got that ready, bro. Like, you want me to send it?" "Yeah, you can do that." "You got 'em."

"On obstructing charges." But when it came to the hit...

“"Do you remember that? Where do you need it done, though?"”

"Yeah, did I've got that guy, bro?" "I can't do that this time, though." "Should I try to negotiate a little bit and see what I can do or what?" "No, just wait on that."

Without that green light from Erpman, prosecutors didn't have enough for the solicitation charge. And they had used up their source. "I meant base killer." "It seemed like a dead end."

"It sucked, there's no doubt about it." "Well, there was a devastation and it was interesting because then it was like, where do we go from here?" "I couldn't give it up."

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Davis County detectives, Bob Thompson and Jen Daley were convinced that even from jail, Chris Ertman was still trying to kill his wife. They just couldn't prove it. "We were done at that point, or so we thought."

And then out of the blue, Daley heard from an old friend, a jailhouse informant who had given her information in the past. "He's a bad guy. He's hurt people. You wouldn't want to meet him up in an alley."

and we've obscured his face, was back in the Davis County jail, in the same cell block as Chris Ertman. And he told Daley he had information

“he was willing to trade for help with his case.”

"Then I told him no. So you're either going to tell me what you have, or this is done." Daley knew from experience how unreliable this particular inmate could be.

"In one minute the guy has amazing information

and it's validated and in the next minute he screws you." Still, this niche news specific details about Tiffany's attack, and there was more. Chris is trying to get him to hire somebody

to kill Tiffany. "I almost fell off my seat because of anybody could do it." "It's him. This heightened it even more for me." So Daley and the team decided to set up a sting

and arranged for Ertman to be introduced to a person posing as a hired gun. "Don't you worry about this idea that the defendant couldn't say,

“this was in trap and I wouldn't plan on hiring him yet."”

Not at all. I mean, the case law is very clear. It's only in trapment. If the government is convincing somebody to do something, they wouldn't otherwise do. You don't go and say, "Hey, can I do this for you?

I've heard you want me to do this. Is that correct?" "I've been doing all night. You've been working out in there. Why?" So they turned to an undercover cop.

"We're calling Jim Kelly." "This is you?" "Correct." At that time, Kelly was working in narcotics and knew how to deal with informants.

The detectives put their plan in motion and sent Kelly to visit the informant at the jail. "But as I came back, he came back to the room. He was real interested." "That's him in the upper right hand corner talking to Kelly."

"What's your statement?"

"How was my commit for a second?"

He had told Ertman, he was meeting with a hitman who could help him out. "Okay, I think he's going on behind him. All ready." "That's Chris Ertman."

"And he's taking a look at you because he wants to get."

“"If you want to see who he's talking to,”

because he's curious to see who is this person that's going to come do this for me." But looking is all Ertman does. Instead of talking, he hands the inmate a piece of paper to show to the hitman.

"Yeah." "Yeah." "Okay." "It's the address where Tiffany is staying. And is it the correct address?"

"It shows that he's starting to take the bait." "It's a start." "But prosecutor Larson says it's not yet enough to bring new charges." "The criminal act is the solicitation to have her killed. Just because he provides an address of his victim isn't enough."

They needed Ertman to confirm on camera that his ex-wife was the target. Detectives weren't Tiffany about the latest threat and asked her to pose for photos. Stage to look like surveillance photos taken by the hitman.

"We've opened up some bags and she got in her car and then got out and was walking into the house as if she just got home from shopping and we took photos." Jim Kelly then headed back to the jail with the photos. But when he got there,

the whole thing falls apart. "It starts to implode." The notoriously unreliable jailhouse informant wanted a deal. He refused to cooperate any further unless he was released from jail.

Prosecutor Jason Nelson got the call. "I was not very happy. We weren't going to be extorted by someone trying to leverage

just with evidence of a potential first degree felony."

They quickly moved the snitch out of the cell block. The Bob Thompson was convinced he'd already tipped off Ertman. "It's all over." "That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like to me.

I thought all this hard work just became unraveled by a career criminal." Still, Jen Daily was determined. "I wanted the undercover cop to still go in and only visit Chris this time.

And he was, no, no. It's not going to work and I'm like, "I don't care. I'm doing it anyway." Six days after that first visit,

Jim Kelly walked back into the visitor's entrance of the jail, asking to see Chris Ertman. Jen Daily was in her office, watching the clock and praying.

I seriously had butterflies in my belly

to the point I thought I was going to throw up waiting. And tick-tock, tick-tock. His Jen Daily waits, undercover cop Jim Kelly, returned to the Davis County jail, along with those surveillance photos of Tiffany Meade.

He knows it's a gamble with long odds. Would Chris Ertman be willing to talk to him? You don't know whether he's going to pick up the phone. "No." "I can hear myself talking.

Please, Lord. Please let him pick up that phone. Please help her." "And the next thing I know, I'm on the phone with him." "What's up, man?"

"That much of you. Good, how are you?" "Termin." "That's me." Kelly, posing as a hip man, needs to get Ertman to identify the target

and give him the go ahead.

“"I think a couple of pictures and just want to verify with you."”

"Yeah." So Kelly shows him the surveillance photos taken by the detectives. "Do you see that?" "Yeah."

"Is that right?" "Yeah." "Is that her?" "Yeah." "Okay."

So no matter what, you know, on your own, that he wants something done to his wife. "Don't do her." "Yeah." "Exactly."

Ertman had backed out before. So Kelly needs to find out if he's really serious about killing his wife. Some people say, "Yeah, I want to kill my wife." "And then other people say, "I want to kill my wife." "Right."

"What kind of things did you ask him to make sure he really wanted her dead?" "Mm-hmm." "I mean, because we're being recorded and he knew we were being recorded, we had to kind of speak in a code." "So what [bleep] was telling me was,

"You know, make it happen." "Yeah." "Yeah." "How fun."

“"And so I had to do the best I could in making sure that we're talking about”

what we believe we were talking about." "And you're saying, "I mean all the way, right?" "Not." "Yeah." "How fun."

"Okay." "Three or four times try to say things like, "You know this is, you know, we're going all the way "and making him affirm that." "And he just says, "Yeah, go have fun."

"Yeah, go have fun was hard to hear." "Is there a time period?" "I mean, is there a... "No?" "No."

"Sugar the better." "Sugar the better?" "Yeah." "Okay." "Then it's time to talk money."

"I've never been asked to kill anybody.

"I don't know what the dollar figure is." "So we went where we all go for answers." "Google."

“"You can actually Google the going, right?"”

"For sure, yeah. "We put that into Google and we found a number." "Something in about five, okay." "Yeah." "Is that work?"

"Yeah." "Cellie had the green light from artmen. "But just to be sure, he asked again." "So, but just to work clear, I'm talking about... "You know, we're not...

"There's no way to come back for me." "Once I go." "You're good with that." "Yeah?" "Yeah."

"It's good. Yeah." "Okay." "Well, I'll... "I'm planning on taking care of it this weekend." "Okay."

"Back in our office." " Mondayly gets the news she had been praying for." "And I went from complete, almost despair that we lost this case." "To a nation like I haven't felt and the blink of an eye." "It was the best feeling ever."

"We knew this was a solid case and we knew that we could get the conviction now." "Daley then calls Tiffany." "I was so relieved that best feeling you'd had in a while." "Yeah." "That was probably the safest I had been since all of it started."

Along with the attempted murder charge, prosecutors now added obstruction of justice and solicitation to commit aggravated murder. "That man committed more felonies in the jail than he did when he was free." "It took Jen Daley and Bob Thompson almost a year to get the evidence they had hoped would keep Chris Artman locked up.

But the case would never go to trial."

"This appointed?" "No." "No." "For Tiffany, she didn't want it to go to trial." Prosecutors offered Chris Artman a deal and he pleaded no contest.

"But I was not in my right mind. I had dangerous."

“Chris says that he was suffering from PTSD.”

"Right." "You don't buy that." "I don't buy it on." "We had no actual diagnosis of PTSD." "For us, we believed that that was fictional."

"And that he was only saying that to try and negate his personal accountability." Artman's plea means he could spend anywhere from six years to the rest of his life in prison. By law in Utah, it will be up to the Board of Parts of parole to decide when Artman will be released.

“Jen Daley makes the 150 mile drive to be at the hearing and to support Tiffany.”

"Oh, there's my girl. How are you doing, honey?"

"I and my career have never attended a parole hearing.

And I won't miss one of his. I hope that I can help keep him there as long as possible." "Is that dangerous?" "Yes." "At Tiffany's side is butters. Her very protective emotional support dog. I have to do everything in my power to keep this monster locked away."

I wake up every morning wondering if today is going to be the day

“that Chris will summon someone to have fun killing me.”

I am here again terrified.

If he's ever released, there is no doubt in my mind. He will come for me and he will finish what he started. Please help me keep my kids safe. Tiffany will have to wait for the Board's decision. But five years after she was almost killed, her future seems brighter.

Besides her loving family, she has a new husband and her ever-present Guardian Angel, Captain Jen Daley. "I'm so happy you did such a good job, you're strong." She's moved mountains. She's helped save my life.

"I don't know why the cards fell the way they did. I'm disgraceful at all, worked out for Tiffany's need. Because I got involved in this job in 1989 to help people. And I can say I helped one person." Christopher Airman's parole was denied. His next hearing will be in 2021.

For help, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799 safe. That's 1-800-799-7233. When beloved family patriarch Gary Ferris went missing, his family looked everywhere on their property. Until they came across something horrifying.

Absolutely. The blame game in this family went round and round. This is Bloodesticker, the Ferris Wheel. I would don't see how anyone can look at this story and think they were happy. Binge the full series, Bloodesticker, the Ferris Wheel on the free Odyssey app, or wherever you get your podcast.