March Madness: Who Is America’s Greatest Defender of Freedom?

We already talked about the merits of both of these amazing and amazing presidents.

Abraham Lincoln preserved the Union George Washington created it. There is no union without George Washington, so my not goes to George Washington. I got a second bad day, but none of the expansions of work that Lincoln was able to embrace and in trying can happen if the system collapses in the first decade, and so Washington showed us that a new country doesn't need a king or a monarch or an emperor that they can have a

“president who is willing to see power, and so I think that's the biggest thing that George”

Washington really showed us until I have to double down your boat. That's right, I have to do the same, not only is George Washington a number one seed, he was the number one president, and frankly he invented belief. I think he takes this away in a landslide, and so I got to stick with George on this one. Americans are capable of achieving extraordinary things when they have the freedom

and opportunity to do so. This is American Potential. Hey everyone, welcome to the American Potential podcast. I'm your host, David From. Hey Matt, it's the end of March, beginning April, which means there's a lot of space basketball. Sorry, basketball being played as part of March madness. Have you even keeping up on it? Did you see the end of the due Hugh Kong game?

I was going to say, David, I'll warn you going into this that I am not a very big sports guy. I'm the guy like, whenever one's talking sports, yeah, do you catch this? Catch that? Yeah,

not my head. Definitely that that that past to that field goal and that hoop was amazing.

I thought that was fantastic. Anyway, I haven't been keeping up for it, but I do hear we have a really exciting bracket coming up for this show. We do, you know, March madness is usual has been full surprises and hopefully are defender of freedom. Liberty bracket has as well that we're going to talk about. I actually am in a pool right now, Tom about March madness with my kids and a few of

there soon from the others. So it's been a lot of trash talking on the text line, but Duke, Hugh Kong game over the weekend was pretty phenomenal. Last second shot to knock out everyone's seed. That was pretty, pretty magical and we'll see if we have any other theatrics

“like that coming up in our Liberty Challenge. I think it'll be exciting and the Liberty Challenge,”

this is a bracket that I am really stoked for. Can't wait for it. It's March madness time in America's repository. So that decided to have a little fun and put together a Liberty bracket with head-to-head competitions between defenders of freedom. You've got 64 defenders in the mix, some are founding fathers, others stood up for big causes and some helped shape the rule of law we defend on today. It's a chance to look back and remember the folks who fought to keep this country free

and maybe spark a little friendly debate along the way about who is the ultimate defender of freedom. So let's go through this bracket with our three great guests who have all been on here before. First, I want to welcome Hunter Kendrick, who is marketing manager for Americans for prosperity. Our next guest has the most appearances on the podcast. The University of North Carolina, so to speak, of Americans for Americans potential. Jeremiah Mosteller, Vice President of Policy,

and Daniel Basali, who is a Vice President of grassroots marketing. Welcome, guys. I really appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much. Thanks for having us to be here, David. This is going to be right here, David. Well, I'm excited. It's a great group to talk to and you guys, you know, somebody that had been executing on this and kind of had the idea for this. So you know,

before we really get into defining who are the best defenders of freedom.

“Daniel, maybe we can tell us where did this idea come from and why do we decide to do this?”

Yeah. Thanks, David. So this is a product of one small step. Our initiative to really look back at America's 250th anniversary, leverage this inflection point to look back on our history, celebrate it, and really reflect on those founding principles that make America so special.

And as we're engaged in this all year long, one of the critical components of our initiative

is to help educate people about these great Americans and what they did to preserve freedom. And really spark debate, as you said, in conversation. So our toolkit website has a lot of great resources. This bracket challenge was a fun way to engage people to really learn something. There's 64 defenders of freedom. So there's probably some you've never heard of, some that you didn't even know that what they did for this country. So really to reflect on

all of that and spark the debate. And then honestly, the other piece of it is to then get them to

we fill out a bracket about American history? Yeah, that sounds great to be. I'm sad I think it's super fun. It's been a fun to track and I mean, I've learned about, I love history, I love American history and I've even learned some watching this transpire. Looking back, we're right now at the

“eagle eight and kind of getting down to the wire and that's what we're just been a most hard time”

talking about. But I want to look back a little bit to the original round of 64 and some of the subsequent matchups. There were some tough matchups early. I got a bone to pick with one though. Maybe I'd love to hear from our guests. But Alexander Hamilton beat out Paul Revere and I mean, you know, you get like a really successful Broadway show and I guess that you get pump some popular momentum and move forward. But if we're talking about defenders of freedom, I mean, man, Paul Revere's

is quite a quite a selection. And Alexander Hamilton had a mixed let's say a mixed history when it came to absolutely love and liberty and freedom and small government. Well, David, I've a bone to

pick with America as well. The fact that Nathan Held did not make it out of the first round. I mean,

he is the patron saint of one small step and proves that one act of courage can echo for centuries. I mean, he made the pure sacrifice for liberty and no offense, Edison did great things, but Edison expanded on what free people could build. While Nathan Held, he represents what people are willing to

“die for so that freedom can exist in the first place. And so I think we need to roll that back and”

think we need to try that again. People need to take another look at their votes on that one. Well, you know, the masses of spoken that I was correct. I mean, there are some tough matchups. So I mean, so Junior Truth versus was a Harriet Tubman. I think it was at it. No, no, I'm sorry. Close to one we had was the tough one. Yeah, it was the tough one. The close to one we had was the one Jeremiah brought up Thomas Edison was the one who beat out Nathan Held. So Jeremiah,

you got to play a fair card here. I mean, Nathan Held lost, but he lost to Thomas Edison. And I think there's some really good compelling arguments for why Edison contributed a lot to American innovation, the spirit of entrepreneurship. I mean, the fact that we're even able to have this conversation via the live stream is in some part. Thanks to Thomas Edison. So you know,

“I'm not debating you on that. I know you've got your bone to pick, but America just by three votes”

went with Edison. Another close one that I wanted to highlight was Clarence Thomas over Milton Friedman. That one was super tight in the early rounds, too. And you know, I did not expect Clarence Thomas to pull that one out. I thought Milton Friedman was going to win. And then

I'll pick one more that I, you know, I just, I'm shocked at the right brothers lost in the second

round. They lost a Dwight Eisenhower who then went and then beat out Neil Armstrong in the next round. So like he's just taken out all the flight in America. And I don't think we would have even won World War II if it wasn't for the right brothers. And then our pioneers in flight. But anyway, that's my bone to pick in the matchups in the early rounds. All right. Also, when it comes to Clarence Thomas and Milton Friedman, that's basically the Constitution versus free markets. So

we have a libertarian civil war happening right now. And I'm with Jeremiah on the Nathan Hale and Thomas Edison matchup. One guy gave his life for liberty. The other gave his life bulbs. America really picked electricity over liberty. I don't know about that one. Yeah, I want to illuminate it the way for freedom and liberty and other just illuminated stuff. All right. Well, let's go to the Eagle 8 round. And there are some really rough matchups here that I have a hard

time. So we're going to ask our panel to talk about who they, you know, their thoughts on the matchup

and who they would pick. So our first matchup are two presidents, both are who are from Virginia.

America's first president George Washington against the third president and the writer of the Declaration of Independence Thomas Jefferson. I mean, this seems to be like one of those times where like two potential number one seeds and two potential champions are facing off in an earlier round. Yeah, totally. And I've I brought my Sharpie pen 8 through 50 style. Oh, you made this one. Begin to the brackets here. But to me, at least, there's no way you go

against GW. I get it. Thomas Jefferson, only 33 years old when he signed and wrote the Declaration of Independence has the largest personal library that actually started the library of Congress

had the bracket played out a little bit differently. We might be seeing him in the finals.

But he just happens to face George Washington and there's just no way you go against him. I won't even go through all the points. It should just be an automatic that GW advances. David, I got to double down on what Daniel's saying. I mean, this is essentially a contrast between poetry and practice. We think about this as a breakup. Jefferson wrote the breakup text, Washington actually moved out and moved on to a new dating relationship. So like, I'm sorry,

you can't compare the two. And so we got to just call out what's happening here in this matchup. I agree with Daniel, though, the Jefferson beats a lot of other people, but just through pure chance of how this bracket worked out. He's now stuck against the boss that is George Washington. I don't know. As of Virginia, this is a tough one. This is like the UVA versus VCU matchup. So it's hard to decide. But I think I'm going to have to go against the group on this one. I'm a Jefferson girl at

heart. He's one of my favorite presidents at 33 years old. Like Jeremiah said, he wrote the greatest breakup text in the world to the world's biggest superpower. That's crazy. At 33 years old, I was still trying to figure out my skincare routine. He really redefined Liberty and government at the start and it's lasted for 250 years. That's crazy. Without Jefferson, we wouldn't know what

“limited government was. So that's why I'm going with Jefferson on this one.”

Well, I'm glad it's not unanimous because I have really strong feelings on both of these guys. I think either one could win the overall chance. Like if I was just picking for at around a 64, just two people, I might have picked those two. I think they're two of the icons. I mean, they beat John Adams and James Madison respectively in the last rounds, which is just saying something. You know, it's really pretty unfortunate that they had to all rent all those four all ran into

each other. But I think George Washington's going to move on and probably appropriately show so truly the father of the country and a man who could have taken us in a lot of bad directions and really decided to put us on a great path and not only one of the revolution, but you're really one established from the setting up America. Sorry. We're going to move George Washington Garpy. All right, so the next one, we have another presidential matchup. 16th president,

Abraham Lincoln from the Great State of Illinois where I resided the moment against the 26th president, Teddy Roosevelt. Both of some of controversial figures at times when we're talking freedom. Well, David, I'm going to throw out a fun fact about me because I don't know the listeners know this. I read a Lincoln book every single year and I try and rotate between ones that criticize his presidency, ones that celebrate it, ones that are kind of in the middle. I'm from the south, so I'm not convinced

that my history education was actually accurate about Lincoln and so I try and compensate by reading these books. But I do have to say that that is kind of like that kind of complicated this dynamic,

because I was thinking about the matchups with him because clearly he did amazing things with

ending slavery and keeping our country together. But there was also some actions he took in the course of that war that are pretty severe violations of civil liberties that I'd be happy to spar with any of these other panelists about. But I still think he should win in the end of the day. Like, look, I love a good national park that Roosevelt helped expand, but I'm sorry, he can't compare it to Abraham Lincoln. Look, I'm not going to try to debate Jeremiah. I'm Lincoln given the

fact that he just said he reads a book about Lincoln every single year. But what I will say,

“I think I'm going to have to go Lincoln as well for all the reasons. But can we just appreciate”

who Teddy Roosevelt was? Like, he keeps popping up in American history for decades. I mean, I mean, whether it's winning in the Spanish American war, whether it's serving as president, whether it's serving as a figurehead in politics, well, afterwards, of course he was also the youngest president in U.S. history. He was 42 years old. So again, just kind of showing you that a lot of people can make a significant impact at any point in their lives. The leader of the rough writers.

I mean, I think we just have to appreciate all that Teddy Roosevelt did and the man that he was because he was a badass. He really wants that's right. This is such a close matchup. I think Teddy Roosevelt is what happens when you make the founding fathers with caffeine and a hunting rifle.

He was an absolutely incredible figure. He literally got shot in the middle of a speech and kept

“going. That is insane. And so I think this is a close matchup just given Teddy Roosevelt personality”

and energy. But at the end of the day, Lincoln has that height. And he's the guy you want when your

You mentioned, you mentioned the height, but I got to say, you know, this is a Liberty Bracket

“challenge. But if these two were sparring head to head, Roosevelt wins that easily, right?”

Can we all just say that back? Yeah. I mean, Lincoln had a reach advantage. You know, guys raised the mid-18, you know, the early 1800s kind of were a little scrappy or an America then maybe guys who got soft in the early 1900s, but there's nothing soft about Teddy Roosevelt. There's nothing. He may not have, he may not have the reach, but that man is boxing out for every rebound. Yeah. All right. I would give you that. I mean, he's probably the one of the toughest

presence we could think of. He was one of the youngest, but yeah. And there's so many, it's so funny because Teddy Roosevelt has, is one of those national presidents. I mean, I go to North Dakota, which is, you know, pretty remote, random state. And they are putting a Teddy Roosevelt museum that they're opening up. The Teddy Roosevelt Museum is opening up July 4th week in the year. They love Teddy Roosevelt. They consider themselves like a rough writer state, which is

seems really random to me, because I had no idea he had a connection there. But he did show much out west with the parks and all that and he really transformed the face of America. But when

“we're talking about the freedom fighters, you folks defending freedom, I think, you know, especially”

Lincoln, you know, what he did in that space and proclamation and the way he guided America, it's pretty hard to, pretty hard to argue with that. So yeah, I'm going to go with what I'm going to stay. David, I mean, bottom line, if you think of interns of scale about how many people gained how much liberty, I think Lincoln is very hard to be in this bracket, generally speaking, but particularly in this matchup. Yes. All right. Now we're moving the leap. We're getting a little more modern.

Those of us who are older than some of the other people, it's really part, it's actually part of their lifetime. So next we're going to the 40th president, also a favorite son of Illinois, not everybody gives us credit for it. But president Ronald Reagan versus Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia. So this is a heavyweight matchup, particularly for the 80s and then beyond. So when you guys think Reagan versus Scalia, I'll start here again. When you're thinking about a

incredible story and really the blueprint, we currently have a president who was a celebrity before

him. Well, that actually was started with Ronald Reagan. Hollywood actor turned political leader, governor of California, then president who really gave Americans hope again after those terrible years with Jimmy Carter took on the Soviet Union, broke the Soviet Union, gave America the optimism that we needed, gave America the end towards the end of the Cold War and really championed what is now the conservative movement free markets and free enterprise and free people.

I mean, I'm a huge fan of Ronald Reagan and I just don't see a way as much as Scalia is the backbone of our judicial system. I just don't see a way that you couldn't go with anyone other than Reagan here. Yeah, this is a really interesting matchup. You've got the constitutionalist versus

“the great community communicator, but honestly in this fight, I see Antonin Scalia getting caught up”

arguing about the rules with the rest. He was an originalist, he wants to talk about the rules and the constitution. So frankly, I think Reagan's going to run away with this one. Well, I have to agree with Hunter. I mean, I think this comes down to rhetoric versus results

or persuasion versus guardrails. You know, both of those things are important, but the bottom line

is that Reagan made freedom persuasive, whereas Scalia made it durable. And so I think Scalia's impact is going to outlast Reagan's even not a big Reagan fan. So I have to go with Scalia. Yeah, I, you know, these are some of the formative people in my, how I was formed as like in terms of my political thinking. And I mean, Reagan was the first enduring leader that I remember as a child and and grown up. And so I've always revered Reagan. I have an enormous respect for France and Scalia,

because he's just a stud, one of the coolest and smartest Supreme Court justices at that, certainly my lifetime, that we've seen, you know, really transformational. But Reagan, I mean, I'll get him back straight. I mean, man, that always be, we're talking about freedom in America. I think on this. But I mean, we're talking about freedom. I mean, Ronald Reagan is, you know, one of the most pivotal figures. He's definitely in the Mount Rushmore of leaders who helped

end communism, which freed tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions of people really around the world and transformed the freedom landscape for the entire world. And for that, I kind of definitely give at least some extra. You might have to be out of bounds for what we're talking about right now. But I mean, that definitely ending the threat of, of, of, you know, national

call out something Jeremiah did because there was really, really slick. He decided to agree with Hunter

inside with Scalia and Hunter. I don't think you voted for Scalia. No, I was wondering about that.

“I think I might write it for my own money. I totally missed it.”

All right. Well, Reagan's moving on, she can't prove it for words. David, for what it's worth, I do expect Scalia to lose the American people's vote because I think his theory is just not going to be the tangible freedom results that people want to see, whereas I think you can really point to like specific actions that Reagan took that result in immediate change against Scalia's is more of a long-tail impact for sure. All right. Again, another tough one. All right. Now,

I do attempt a matchup. We're talking about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the great civil rights

leader. First of all, 34th President and General of World War II, President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

I'll let others start. I've started each time. You gave us one more good day. I want to be here because I'm here because I'm here. Come on, Hunter. I was going to let you go. Oh, man. This one's hard for me.

“So, I think this is, again, another tough matchup. You have MLK who didn't rewrite the rules. He”

just reminded America what the founding fathers promised to us. And he did it in a nonviolent way. He was strategic, but not passive. And his eye have a dream speech is one of the most iconic

speeches that's most recognized everywhere around the world. Then you have Dwight Eisenhower.

He literally took on the Nazi's head on as Supreme Allied Commander. He led one of the largest invasions in history, which changed the course of World War II. And probably changed the course of our human history as well. He demonstrated that liberty sometimes requires sacrifice at a large scale in order to be preserved. So, this is a toss-up for me. I don't know if I can pick. Hunter, I mean, I agree. This is a super hard one. I mean, on one side, you have the president

that sent federal troops to enforce the Constitution after the Supreme Court's ruling. In Little Rock, on the other side, you have MLK who really forced us to apply our own promises in

“this country. It's like, how do you weigh those two things? I think I have to land on the side”

of MLK because he didn't just ask us to invent better principles. He actually told us we need to honor them and force us to honor them in this country. Yeah, it really, I think when you boil it down, president Eisenhower and general Eisenhower before that really insured freedom for many in the world. But if we're really talking about expanding liberty to all Americans, that it's really hard to compete with Martin Luther King. And so for that reason, I have to go

MLK Jr. I think you guys are right. This is definitely a buzzer Peter moment. I think Martin Luther King is running a completely different game though. He has the moral clarity instead of brute force. Well, I think also, you know, Eisenhower was a good, great president. I think he was a very good president. I actually really appreciate it about at the end of his term. We called out not, you know, being too control by special interests and the defense industry and stuff. I thought that that was

really helpful and good words. But, you know, Brown B. Board of Education and enforcing that was huge. I think that like, there are other presidents like him who were good. There's a really kind of one MLK. You know, he buys own making stood up and became kind of in a way the conscience of America. And you buy Clare by reminding everybody, like, hey, this is what we're supposed to be in kind of calling America to be that Chinese city on a hill for everyone to really calling us

to our true ideals. And doing it in such a way with such eloquence that it to really draw a lot of us to it and to kind of be enduring really. So for that, for that enduring legacy, I'm not voting actually, but I'll go with MLK Junior too. Well, we have our freedom for that. Yeah, we do. Wow. So the, it's going to be George Washington versus president Abraham Lincoln, a presidential heavyweight fight and presidential president Ronald Reagan versus Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. All right,

do you guys, so as we're as we look ahead to, to those way, man, this is getting even harder.

I got to go GW yet again. Look, I'm going to keep it short. We already talked about the merits of

both of these amazing and amazing presidents. Abraham Lincoln preserved the Union George Washington

created it. There is no union without George Washington. So my not goes to George Washington. I got a second that David. I mean, none of the expansions of work that Lincoln was able to embrace and and try and can happen if the system collapses in the first decade. And so Washington showed us that a new country doesn't need a king or a monarch or an emperor that they can have a

“president who is willing to see power. And so I think that's the biggest thing that George Washington”

really showed us. And so I have to double down your boat. That's right, I have to do the same. Not only is George Washington a number one seed. He was the number one president. And frankly, he invented the league. I think he takes this away at a landslide. And so I got to stick with George on this one. Yeah, I would disagree with that George Washington. We're still playing in the NIT.

You know, there's no march madness challenge here. So I agree. I've always loved George Washington.

I think that the more you learn about George Washington, sometimes the more you realize what an incredible leader and president who was. So let's just say the game was close, but at the end of the day, Washington Washington won going away. So all right, guys. Now we jump to our next our other matchup. President Ronald Reagan versus Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. What do you think? I got to go with Reagan on this one. He's one of my other favorite presidents outside of

“Jefferson. And I think we made a great case for him earlier. Not only did he make the American dream”

and our founding principles real again for Americans as the great communicator. He also brought liberty across the world with the fall of the Soviet Union. So I got to go with Reagan on this one. I'm going to concur. And here's the reason why I'm going to use your word, David. You had said in the previous matchup. MLK Jr. versus Dwight Eisenhower that Eisenhower was a great president, but we had other great presidents and there was only one MLK Jr. But on the flip side,

I think Ronald Reagan is like we're talking top three top four presidents and in modern day history to have been that historical of a figure. I think takes him over the edge. I go Reagan. David, I think I got to concur with my two other panelists here while King's impact was enormous. He wasn't ever really forced to exercise state power himself in a crisis. And I think that's the thing that sets Reagan apart is that through crisis after crisis, he didn't double down on government

“power. He doubled down on liberty. I think that's great point. I think what he did to transform”

the world's landscape was really amazing. And then you look at what he did even as president, you know what would be economic and other kind of freedom restoring things for great. And then let's not forget when he came to be power, I mean we're in a malaise. When he came to be president, things turned. And just the mood of the nation changed a lot. And we're kind of still reaping some benefits from there. So he knows we're going without his leadership. So we

a president Ronald Reagan and president George Washington in the Champions of Liberty round. So that's there's some heavyweight there. I think they might have been roughly the same height to be honest with you. In real life. So all right, guys, let's hear about president Washington or president Reagan. So I got to go with George Washington on this one. He could have been King and said no twice. I'm sorry, but that's the original no kings protest. And he made it so that we didn't have a monarch

for at like the rest of history. So I think Washington takes this one away. Like both are great presidents. But George Washington, we haven't even mentioned this part. He actually was one of the wealthiest men in America at the time or in the colonies at the time. And personally, financed the Revolutionary War. I mean, talk about putting skin in the game. He gave it all. And we benefit as a country now 250 years later. We still benefit from that.

There's no comparison. George Washington was going to run away with this thing from the very

beginning. It's a bit of a let down in terms of climax and anticipation. But it was always GW for me.

I think I got to agree with Daniel. I mean, to my last point, Washington is the president. They could have been the most effective at expanding the executive branch's power. And he chose not to. Yeah, I, he did set a tone for limited government. And actually, you know, warned just against foreign entanglement. Sorry. I totally agree with you all. I don't know what you had to say about the original no kings protest. Maybe that's what we could consider the Revolution. But I mean,

singular figure who the founding fathers in the army. Everybody could rally around and draw inspiration

from. And then executing that and then taking the country forward, being the first president,

setting all the great precedents that have shaped this nation. I mean, it's, it's pretty hard to calculate how impactful President George Washington was. So I'm glad that he's, he's going to win our

“challenger. And when you read, I mean, I think he would have had the vote of every other founding”

father as well. When you read about, I mean, there were factions. I mean, there were debates about what this country should look like, what our founding ideals should be and how you manifest that in a form of government. And all of these different founding fathers actually had these spars with one another. The one person, the one figure they all coalesced around and recognized to be the leader of the country was George Washington. It was a unanimous pick. And I think they would have voted for

GW as well. I got to say, by the way, I'm very pleased with this result as a George Washington

University graduate. Don't judge me on that. We have never come close to sniffing a championship,

but for us to have actually had a big victory in one cup March, huge one for GW GoFs.

“That's right, Daniel. I think if the founding fathers had a bracket in 1776, George Washington”

definitely would have been the champion. And I'm sorry, Reagan, but if you're losing to Washington, is nothing personal, you're just not him. No, do you think in their 1776 bracket challenge, Washington would know like three months later that he won? Like their quill pens? Well, guys, I really appreciate you doing this with us. I'm so glad that America's impressed pretty much, you know, fun with this, but also just have something that's fun and

interact with and learn from. I mean, I had to look up a few of the people. You guys, everyone, if you go to the, go to the site to the bracket challenge, you can see. You can hover over some of the people and see who they were. And I felt I feel like I'm a pretty good student of history. And but also, it's a great reminder of some of the just the great leaders, the principal leaders, who've stood up for us and who, who, you know, we're staying on the shoulders of. So if folks

still haven't gone to the bracket challenge, you can go to [email protected]/onestall small step and find it. Any other resources out there, Daniel, or hunter that you'd like people to know about that they can take advantage of? Yeah, actually, I'm going to say, easier route goes to a250 bracket.com. It'll take you straight there. Voting is still, you can still vote, you can still make your voice heard, you can share that with your friends, have the debate that we just

had. Maybe you have a different outcome, but make sure you get your vote in before the bracket challenge closes. It's great. Well, what fun? I'm so excited about the one small step campaign. We've been talking about all the time on this podcast. And it's, it's so great to talk to people who are doing, you know, big things, who at the beginning, we didn't ever thought they could. They've made the, you know, transformational change. Someone elected office. We're talking about elected officials,

like, hey, how'd you get involved? They have amazing stories. They have all these great things

about like, hey, you know, I was worried about my kids education, so I stepped out or, you know, I saw this injustice. And, you know, America's history is littered with those stories and we're just going to hopefully keep encouraging people to keep taking that step and make their community, their state and their nation a better and better place. So, thanks for doing this, guys. >> Yeah. >> Thanks so much. >> Thanks. Well, folks, if you like this episode and we'll

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