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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Anonymous: Summer Fling

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- Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair anonymous.

Today we're gonna hear juicy stories of summer flings. - Oh. - One of these was so precious. - Wow, that's really looses it.

It loses, this is entire, what do we call that?

Like tear reserve. - Water was a little bit easier. - Sure, sure. - It was really sweet. - Oh, it would be hydrated, one was so sweet.

They're very fun. And yeah, they're all wonderful. - Yeah, a very uplifting. - Yeah, makes you nostalgic for a summer fling. We also have new prompts, please call us,

oh, I was gonna throw this out there too.

If you know somebody with an incredible story,

that might not even listen to the show, but they like to own stories, and you can think of it, wrangle them into submit, too. - Has this a long? - Has it a long, so, new prompts?

Tell us a crazy dinner party story. Nurses tell us your craziest nurse stories, tell us a crazy study abroad story. Tell us about a time you made the news. Dinner party, nurse stories, study abroad,

and making the news. Please enjoy summer flings. (upbeat music) - Hey, you got a note, I'ma keep on shining. - Hi guys. - Hi.

- What fake name shall we use? - Can you please pick?

- Yeah, let me stare at your face for a minute.

- I have one, but I wanna hear yours. - Okay, well first of all, you have a very inviting face. - Well, thank you. - Yeah, yeah, it's very pleasing. It's very symmetrical.

The golden rule's poppin'. - God, we love that. - Yeah, we can only look within the, at the golden rule. Why don't know, Monty?

- You're not not symmetrical. I'm very asymmetrical, different shape nostril. No, my nose is fuckin' bent. I got different shape nostrils. - I got a septoplasty this year

'cause I had a crooked nose, so that helps. But now my nostrils are really crooked. - Yeah, mine are terrible. So what's a septoplasty? - Cracks a deviated septum.

- From cocaine use? - Yeah, all of that. - My entree surgeon did me a favor and filled in a divot. So, shout out to him.

- Wow. - Yeah, because, you know, deviated septum surgeries like sometimes in quotes, it's like, just to get a nose job.

- Oh, no, we both said Monty can I wear on hot ones

and we reclaiming that the hot burnt our nose so bad that we had to get it repaired. And then they gave us a stupid nose job. - God damn it! - No, I have this stupid cute button on.

- Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Okay, I haven't gotten close. I wanna hear yours. - Robin. - Boom, and I think we know why.

- Yeah. - Robin right, that's right. - Oh, okay. - I don't, does she still go by pen? - Oh, probably not. - Okay, Robin right.

- Okay, so Robin, where are you? - I am in Denver, Colorado. - Ding ding ding, Rob was just telling me

one second ago that he went to redrock this summer

with his little boy for the first time. - Oh, who'd you see? - The head and the heart. - Oh, that's a good show, I redrock. - Do you go?

- I haven't been this summer, but yeah, you should see Brandy Carlisle, every single summer there at the weekend, after a Labor Day, Ava Brothers, oh my God. - Oh, all our friends.

- Oh, hey, I almost said so Avius. I'm gonna say Envious. - Yeah, it's fun. - Oh, amazing. - Okay, so you have a summer fling story.

- Okay, so it's 2007, and I have just graduated from college, and I am taking my father to Peru. He's a teacher, and so he got a summer's off, and so we're gonna go to Peru. I take myself back packing Europe 2003

when I graduated high school, so the time I wanted to bring my dad. - Oh, that pause. What a lucky dad. If one of my little girls asked me to go Peru

when they graduated college, I'm gonna fucking explode. - I'm glad you said that 'cause when I was thinking about the story, I was like, why didn't I bring girlfriends?

I was like that lame, but he's such a special man. - Oh, that's lovely. - But just wait till you hear it. He cannot hear the story.

I hope he never hears the story.

(laughing) Background is I graduated from a conservative Christian college outside of Chicago. I bet Rob could name it, just in the Western Burms. This is a college that is steeped in purity culture.

And I was raised in purity culture, and sex and dating is not anything my father and I talk about. I go to Peru week earlier than my dad 'cause he's finishing up his school year.

I've got some time. I'm not gonna waste any time. I get down there, I visit a friend in Lima, I do some dune bugging, and walk a cheetah where the sand dunes are, and then I end up in Warras,

which is a town in the courtyard of Blanca. And it's there that I meet Neil, we'll call him Neil. - Okay. - This man from Scotland who was also traveling solo,

and a lot of people are traveling in groups. So we sort of find each other 'cause we're the only solo travelers and just hit it off and we start doing day trips together. And it's not romantic, it's just comfortable, and we have a lot to talk about.

And then when it's time for my dad to come to Peru, Neil just sort of joins the trip. My dad rolls at that. Also for the record, I'm like a recovered, purity culture person.

- Already at that point, or this started the recovery.

- I was a closeted sexual being at that point.

- Oh, okay. - Okay.

- So our first trip with my dad is going down

into the Colca Canyon and camping, and it's during that time that I noticed, my sleeping bag is sort of shimying towards Neil's, and I don't mind, and it's just really comfortable in a great way to spend a cold night,

and I'm aware of the fact that it's like sort of weird, that my father's just on the other side, and probably clueless. - In the same town. - In the same town?

- Yeah, yeah, okay, great. - But that adds a little danger. - Everything's really chaste and innocent, though, and then we proceed, we make our way back up the Colca Canyon, and then we end up in Arrequipo, which is one of the towns there.

So then we eat their delicacy, their approach isquee, which is guinea pig. - Is it delish? - No, two bony. - Ew, bony.

- Too much work, yeah. - And my dad every night, he's going to bed early, so that night, my dad goes to bed,

we're always sharing a hostile room.

So at this hostel, Neil and I go upstairs, and we're just on the hostel roof, enjoying the city skylight, and I get a kiss on the forehead. So I was like, oh, okay, I didn't mind that. We're out of the friend zone, of course,

right after my father arrives, but again, it's still really innocent, cute, harmless. I didn't date in college. It was mostly drunk in one night stands. I was also a closeted alcoholic,

but didn't realize that at the time. - A wonderful.

- A lot of times, I think those go together.

For sure, I'm now a friend of Bill's and eight years. - Oh, congratulations. - Thanks. The next day, our next adventure is to go to Copacabana in Bolivia, unlike Titicaca.

My dad, however, says he wants to take the later bus train, then he's gonna arrive half a day later 'cause he wants to buy an activity set for my mom. So he says go ahead, so Neil and I are on our own to go to Bolivia.

So we take trains and buses, and we're snuggling,

and it's so cute, and it's so wholesome when we get to

Copacabana, the thing to do there is you get a rowboat, or a paddle boat, and you go out on like Titicaca, and you just enjoy the surrounding area. - We grab a bottle of wine, though. I go out in the boat, we get tipsy.

Finally, someone says something, that's like, why haven't you kissed me in or something, something, and then it's on. - In a boat? - In a boat, in the middle of the day, on like Titicaca.

- Ooh. - And then we realize, well, there's a little reason much you can do on a boat. So we decide to head back to shore, go to the hostel, that we have dropped our stuff at,

that my father's meeting us at later, and we make excellent use of it, and waste no time.

And I don't know, I think I set a record that day.

Now that I'm in my 40s, I look back at that longingly. - As far as many of times, coitists. - Many times, yeah, so we can sell many times, coitists. - Well, the clock's ticking, dad's eating well. - Dad's coming, sometime later, we meet up with him,

and we go out and about, I think we're looking for dinner, and healing's over to me, and he's like, Robin, did you guys smoke marijuana in there? It smells real funky. - Oh my god, your father asked this.

- Did you smoke marijuana?

- He was always really concerned about me

and using substance as I was like, no, I'll have to go smell it, and we get back, I didn't notice anything. Also, my dad doesn't know what marijuana smells like. So let me go to dinner.

My dad again turns in early, Neil and I have a drink. We realize soon after we don't want to be drinking. So we do an Ednie, classy young backpackers do, and we go find some sort of hourly motel. I don't really know what we found or what he found.

I know we woke some in keeper up in the middle of the night, and again, we make excellent use of this room. Then we go back, we creep into the hostel that I'm sharing with my dad. He doesn't even wake up.

The next day, we part ways. Neil has his other adventures through South America. My father and I are going on to the jungle, and then we're going to go hike the ink and trail the Montjupechu.

So make it to the jungle, it's called a Ketos, and you can only get there by boat or plane. It's really out there, it's really cool. A couple days in, I start to feel unwell. - Uh-oh.

- And I've got fever's aches, chills. My dad looks at his guidebook, and he's like, "Dengay fever, you have Dengay fever." So we go to a clinic, they give me fluids, so like there's not much we can do for you.

There's no tests at this point, just manage your symptoms, tell them that, though. I'm 22, I rally. The symptoms are intermittent. After a ketos, we go into Cusco,

which is where you're going to start the ink a trail. And it's there that I realize I really have to peel it, but I can't peel it. - Yeah, you tee-eye time. - Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, oh, this is a UTI. I don't know what to use the bathroom between things, so I do what any sensible. 22 year old does, before I go on a three-day trek through the Andes, and I do nothing.

- Oh, no. - So it's like a three-day trip. I feel fine most of the time, I'm impressed with myself, and then the last night there, I start to feel pretty ill.

And I know I'm ill, because everyone's drinking and partying before you do the sunset hike to see Montjupechu, and I'm more pissed that I can't drink, than the fact that I might be sick and have to crawl into the sleeping bag.

And then the next morning, I rally again. I feel great. We're gonna go see Montjupechu, we do the sunset hike, and then we hike down into it, walk around. I'm feeling really tired, though,

and that's just kind of annoying. Then once you're done there, you take a train from the site down back into Cusco. And again, there's more celebrating and drinking and partying, and I cannot,

I can do as I crawl up on my dad. I've got intermittent fevers, my alges,

That's like aches and pains.

And then we get to Cusco. I feel okay, probably just crawl into bed and go to bed. Next day, we have a really early morning flight. So I'm huddled under this blanket at the airport before our flight.

It's really early in the morning. And now I'm just like, okay, I'm just exhausted. That was a bigger hike than I realized. Ooh, and then we get on the flight. It's a short flight from Cusco to Lima.

As soon as we take off in our in the air, I start shaking uncontrollable. It's like teeth chattering. I feel really cold, but I'm super hot. They call for a doctor on board

'cause my dad's like, over a flight attendant. In my memory, he looks like Gabrielle Garcia Marquez and he hands me a small pill. And I'm sure it's just Tylenol. They talk about maybe turning the plane around

to go back to Cusco, but because it's a short flight, they're gonna go on to Lima. We're gonna get to Lima, we land. And there's an ambulance waiting for me on the tarmac. Wow.

And they take me to the hospital, run some tests, give me some fluids. I'm medical now, so I'm sure they gave me some antibiotics prophylactically. And then they come back and they say,

you have a massive kidney infection. Yes, spread to the kidney. I don't say a word 'cause I am pretty sure at this point, but we roll with the Dengue fever, we roll with maybe the weird food I ate.

So that was the exciting part of the ambulance.

And basically then in the story,

except that when we go back home to Minnesota, my parents take me to an infectious disease doctor 'cause they have got to figure out why they're 22-year-old, otherwise healthy, daughter acquired a massive kidney infection.

And I did not ever, throughout that whole thing, have the heart to tell them, it was like 'cause I was fucking the brain's out of this guy. Yeah. The guttsman.

The best reason, the only good reason. What I be wrong to assume like, if you're doing a ton of hiking and your at-hostals and showerings and not regular and washing your clothes,

I mean, you could get a UTI without the sex part, right? I might have floated that like, man, I guess we, you know, should have washed our clothes more. I don't know, I would have dumped it on that. Totally.

I mean, I've had many a UTI. Don't brag. I know.

That's how I try to keep that to myself, it's a big bracket.

And it's not from wiping. Okay, I didn't say that. Okay, I do set it with your eyes. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I meant, I meant more to the people

who think it's from wiping.

I wipe always front to back.

Sure, yeah, as you should. As you should. Anyway, also, once you start getting UTIs, you are prone to UTIs. And then you can get them so easily.

So yes, you could have been like, guess I got a UTI. Yeah. I wiped once. The Christian way through hard work and access.

I didn't even want to go there. Yeah, that's terrible. Oh, wow. Do you see a touch with Neil? I think I emailed him the story and he wrote back L-O-L.

Oh, that would work. I mean, I should have heard L-O-L, but no, we didn't stay in touch. It was a true summer flame. There was just nowhere else to go with that. Okay, Robin, that was delightful.

Thank you so much. It's such a treat to be sitting here with you guys. Yeah, and his dad's still with us. Dad is still with us, yep. But we keep him in his innocence.

So he's more innocent than ignorant and he's a good man. He now teaches yoga and has broadened his perspective. So understands that people do things differently than just one way. Oh, I love that. Oh, I love it.

Can I do two quick shout-outs? Yeah, okay. My daughters love you. They can't be here and I'll use their code names as well. But Sissy and Momo, and then I want to give a shout-out to my partner,

who celebrates 19 years of sobriety today. Oh, do one day great. That's a shout-out to Harab. Okay, not Harab, not Harab. Hot Rob and Robin.

I know, that's why when you said that, I was like,

oh my goodness. Good job. Oh my goodness. All right, lovely meeting you. So nice to meet you, thanks guys.

Take care. Hi. Hello, is it night time? Hi, yeah, it is sort of. I had to make a fort because I didn't have a ticket.

Okay, and your name's Hannah, right? Yes, it is. It's so nice to meet you guys. Thank you so much for calling me. Where are you, Hannah?

Right now, I'm in Berlin for the summer in Germany. Amazing.

Is it as good as everyone always says?

Oh my gosh, better, I think. Oh, really? In describeable, yes, this is like my third time coming back in the past two years. Part of the story takes place here.

Oh, ding, ding, ding. And do you hop over to Prague at all? Because that's quite close. Yes, I have been one time. I found it to be so storybooky.

You know, it felt just walking through history. I found there, Copenhagen, and Amsterdam to kind of have that feeling. Nothing like the US can provide since it's such a younger country. Yeah, we were looking at a church in Prague and I said to the girls, but church is 700 years old.

That's three times the age of our country.

That's why I just looked, look, look, how could that be?

Look at it. Okay, so you have a summer fling story? Yes, I do. So the summer fling story took place last summer when I was traveling Europe with my best friend after graduating college.

Oh, what a time, what a time. Yes, it was coming up on the end in late August.

We were going to end where we started in Paris for a few days

after spending a month in Berlin.

So it was a three month long trip as long as you can spend

the Shengen visa, or without having to get a visa. So the last month of the trip was in Berlin. We had been using the euro rail pass to go around. Oh, incredible. Yeah, but we were flying back out of Paris.

And for some back story, while I had been in Berlin and early July, my long distance partner from college and I had just broken up over the phone. It was about a messy situation ship, just like on and off seeing each other for a year.

Find myself single and horny and available for the first time into the sexiest cities in the world. Oh, wow, yeah, let's go. Good timing. Great way to spend the last month of my travels.

So after putting a thin in Berlin, my best friend and I were on the train to Paris for the weekend to cap are almost three months trip. I had been using hinge since my ex and I broke up in order to meet as many young and hot people as possible.

And so on the train, I was a little bored. So I went to switch my location from Berlin to Paris.

And I noticed that someone I had matched with was physically

in Berlin, but lived in Paris. And I thought, man, I want to call him Jack was a dime. So you weren't going to be in the same place. I started to chat with him anyway. And we really hit it off.

There was Woody Banner, spicy and exciting back and forth. It was a very entertaining train ride. And it turned out we were just missing each other both ways, unfortunately, like trains passing in the night. He was going to be arriving in Berlin

for a festival that weekend, the day I left. And was returning to France the day that I was supposed to fly back to the States. But luckily, I had had a gut feeling a while back that I should maybe invest in a flexible plane ticket home.

I liked to thank you always because I'm truly connected

to my French boyfriend and not because me and my best friend had missed our flight out of JFK in June. I ended up pushing my flight back a week and Jack was going to come to Paris for his summer holiday instead of going to the South of France to see his family.

So we both kind of changed what we were doing so drastically because we felt as though we had to see it through and have a romantic week together once he gets back after the weekend. And is he French? Yes.

So now I had the last weekend with my best friend in Paris. And we went to a well-known techno club. Whenever we go to the club, we call the friends. We make collecting Pokemon because you kind of make these raw and open-hearted connections.

Have an amazing night together, form a misfit group, release them back into the world after. But then always have the lessons that they taught you in your back pocket. So we met these two really amazing guys.

And I really hit it off with one of them. We'll call him Henry. We danced all night together. And then as a group, we went to an afters club. I made out with Henry and we talked a lot.

But I didn't go home with him because I was excited and anticipation of seeing Jack, the reason that I had decided to stay in the first place. So Jack was getting back from the festival Monday. I said goodbye to my best friend and grieved her

for the day while I waited to meet Jack at the train station, had my giant hiking backpack and all my stuff to go move in with him for 10 days. Oh, you guys are going to go straight to leave me in the same place.

Wow. Yeah, I was going to stay with him in the department.

He had never physically met before.

Oh, my God. The train banter was very successful. I'd also been bouncing around for three months. So I think it was primed and ready after going hostile to hustle, to spend some time

in someone's apartment and just people in general. So yeah, I met the train station, nervous, and excited at the same time. And I finally see him for a second.

You have to get to know each other's physical bodies.

I can just text him. Yeah, so we got for a moment. And then he grabs my hand and we go to his beautiful apartment in the center of Paris. Oh, my God.

We immediately get right into doing all the things we said we were going to over text afterwards. I was thinking, oh, this is perfect. Exactly who in what I thought and was hoping this experience would be.

In the next morning, he goes downstairs to this Asian restaurant next door to get takeout. And I'm like, yes, that sounds great. I don't feel like cooking after moving all my stuff. And then having crazy monkey sex all evening.

Even though we had talked about how fun it would be to cook together, we eat and start watching this reality cooking show that he threw on. We had talked about the parks and rivers nearby his apartment, the botanical garden,

and going to have picnics and eating amazing cheese

and wine and reading together. Just like all the things that I like to do, but would be so romantic to do with someone who could show me around in the city. So looking forward to it.

The conversation was there.

The sexual energy was there.

But over the first two days, I kept gently asking,

like, hey, do you want to go for a walk? Do you want to go get some stuff to make dinner?

If you want to go to park and getting him to do any of the things

he had advertised to me and said that he also like to do is kind of like pulling cheese. But every time he would say, it's too hot. I don't feel like it no, but you can go if you want. It was just like very off-putting and a little bit depressing

not when I was expecting. So the libido starts to drop. The conversation gets a little less exciting. And he just wants to lay in front of the fan and watch the Sam cooking show.

Oh, wait, how many days left when this is starting to happen? I was starting to get a little bit-- They called the eck now, right? Yeah, yeah. On day two, it was just becoming a little bit triggering

because I've had an ex-partner that struggled with depression and masking their personalities. So I was recognizing the signs a little bit. And it's so difficult for everyone involved to be this intimate with someone who's struggling with mental health.

But I'm not invested in this guy. I wish him best, and we were getting along. But at this point, I would rather say in a hostel and literally be alone than feel obligated to stay with him and just feel alone.

Yes.

The third night, I went out to a bar with my other friends

and he didn't want to come, of course.

So then I ended up meeting a third party

who's separate to the other two guys in the story and sleeping with him in the park. Oh, whoa, in the park. Wow. Oh, wow.

I had been out on it. I subject his hostel and then I rolled back up to Jack's apartment in the morning. No questions or cares. And I decided that I wasn't enjoying my time

and not only that, but I felt as though a new year was struggling somehow. And if I were to stay, that I would feel like I was using him for a spot, I can accommodate myself. I don't need to be somewhere that I'm not feeling happy.

So a shower, and I got my stuff together and sat in down to have a genuine conversation, it was pretty straight up asking, are you OK? Like, are you struggling with depression? You aren't excited or even neutral about doing anything with me.

He ended up opening up and saying yes. And he had been excited about the idea but that he was struggling and he was sorry. Can I ask one quick question? So he just came from a Berlin festival.

Yes. OK, so he probably went fucking hard. The dude was probably rolling on Molly for three days straight. And you're dealing with the very predictable depression that follows three days later from the dopamine deficit.

That could have totally played a role. He probably had zero dopamine. Yes. That totally relates to what he responded.

I think it was cute with the language barrier.

He was like, you were like, a light in a jar too high on a shelf for me to reach. Oh, that's so wrong, man. And it's going to be beautiful. Yeah.

It's depressing. Yeah. We together decided that I would leave and we would still be friends. And we are still friends to this day.

Sometimes we have a cheeky sex. Oh, my God. Is he happy or no? He is happy or not. He told me that he generally struggles depression.

So I immediately went to go put my stuff down in a hostel and just like resented real quick. And then very quickly remembered Henry, the guy that I had met at the Techno Club a few days ago. And I took him at us if he wanted to go on a date.

So I went up with him in the park that same evening. The park. You had fun. The park is everyone's spot like a girl in Paris. And we did have wine and cheese.

And he just headed my lap. And we talked about his job and the French military and the Pilates and interests and dreams. And I felt like we were walking into space with conversation.

It was very romantic. He said I could come back to his place and that he had drove. And when we were going to his car, we pulled up to his motorcycle and I was in France by this day.

We rode to the south of Paris.

It was my first time on Peter's cycle.

You're in a movie now. Shut a lot. I didn't know we were going on a motorcycle. So I had a mini dress on. It was like blowing up in the wind.

It felt so right and free. And I felt so safe with him. And like very proud of myself for not staying in turmoil with Jack out of any obligation. I just felt like I used my past experience

to propel forward and learn from it. So I was able to spend the next week living with Henry. Quickly brought me back to my hostel the next morning to get my stuff and he brought it to his house. And we truly had the summer fling

like falling in love experience despite the expiration date. He was on his break in between getting a promotion in the military and I was going back to the state. So it was kind of a great sweet spot for both of us. We had some of the best and most athletic sex of my life.

Cook together. We went for runs in the park. All the things you were promised, you did end up getting. When we departed, it was very sweet. But I feel like he truly raised the bar

for my physical and emotional relationships.

I keep throwing myself fully into the summer flings

because it's corny, but it is also collecting Pokemon.

Like you. [LAUGHTER]

But they teach you and you're back pocket for a few days.

That's great. I say go as hard as you can until you shut it down. Just do what you want to do. When you get married and you have kids, you want to be the lane bed and going, oh, yeah, I did it all.

Yeah, I'm working on it. What an exciting summer. Thanks for telling us that, Hannah. Yeah, thank you guys so much for having me. I'm such a fan of the expert on experts day.

I really appreciate you guys giving a platform to scientists. Oh, that's so nice. Our pleasure. Have a blast in Berlin. Yes, we're jealous.

Take care. Bye. Hello. What fake name are we going to say? I was actually going to see if you wanted to pick one out for me.

I immediately want to say Sarah because you look like my sister and love Sarah. You do look like Sarah. And I love Sarah.

So we're off to a great start.

OK, perfect. I love it. OK, so you had a summer fling. Maybe you've had multiple summer flings. But you have one in particular you're going to tell us about.

Set the stage for us. What year was this? This was actually last summer. Oh, this is for a fresh fling. Yes.

So my best friend is getting married. It's a bachelor at party. We're all college friends. So we're going down to her future and laws be a child.

It's like a yacht club in CS to key Sarah soda area.

So we go down. We're having fun. It's the first night. We all have our different outfits on. And we have the theme going everything.

I like to drink to kilo. And when I drink too much to kilo, my friends tell me that I get my to kilo goggles on. They're helpful. Well, they're deceiving.

They're deceiving.

I think they're helpful in that.

You should be so picky. Why? Because why we hung up on like, oh, and the perfect nose. But we got a good amount of to kilo. And you're like, yeah, I ain't give shit about that stuff.

It's like the glasses do the opposite. They make your eyes really bad. Well, exactly. Which is kind of like healthy. That's my point.

Okay. We're going to read a story. That's a purfling short. Go on. Okay.

So we're going out to this club. It's a very well known club. So I won't say the name. And when we walk in, it's just our bachelor at party. And I'm like, you know what, it's fine.

We can make it fun. It'll be great. So we're having dance battles with this other party that came in and like we're just having fun. And then I noticed that one of the bouncer's keeps like looking at me.

And I'm like looking back and I'm like, guys, I don't know. I think he's giving me the eyes. And they're like, absolutely not. You cannot do this. They don't have their tequila goggles on.

But in my head, when I have something I want to do, I'm going to do it. So we're flirting.

And he's like, do you want to go out to my car and smoke a cigarette?

And I'm like, sure, why not? We're on vacation. We're having fun. I'm one of the only single girls in the party. So I'm like, who cares?

So I go out. We're smoking a cigarette in the back of his van, which he also lives in, which is important in the story. [LAUGHTER] Do you want to go back?

Do you want to go back? I was you to say, do you want to come out and smoke a cigarette in my house? [LAUGHTER] So we go out to his home and we're sitting in the back and we're smoking a cigarette.

One thing leads to another. We do have a quickie in the back of his car before going back into the club. Right. This guy's got a mate.

He's living in the parking lot of the club. And he's allowed to leave during his shift in the entertain in his van and then returned to work. This seems like a dream. So we go back in and all my friends are lined up near the pool

table and they're like, what did you just do? And I'm like, don't worry. It's OK. I'm like, I'm the chaotic friends. They're very used to it.

I'm like, we're still going to have a great night. So we're still flirting throughout the night. And then I go over to him. And I'm like, hey, by the way, we're about to leave. He's like great take my number.

He's texting me. I'm not responding. So I'm like, I'm with my friends who cares. So he's like, but I really want to see you later tonight. And I'm like, OK.

So we get back to the house at like 2 a.m. And all my friends are like, don't go. He could kill you. He lives in his man. Like we literally don't know.

People look at his van. That's such a deal breaker, generally. It is what they tell you to avoid. It's don't get into someone's van. So I share my locations with all my friends.

And I'm like, OK, guys, if I die, like, you know where my body is or at least my phone. This guy comes and picks me up like 2 30 in the morning. And he's like, oh, can I just park my van at this yacht club. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to do that. I don't want to disrespect like her future in laws.

Let's just drive somewhere. So we're driving through CS to key. And he parks. And he's like acting all fidgety. And I'm like, it's everything OK.

Like my friends have my location in case you're going to do anything. And he's like, OK, well, if the cops come, I need you to say that you were driving because I don't have a license.

OK.

And I said, but you live in your van. So like, how do you not have a license? Yeah.

So I'm like, why don't we get out of the residential

and like, go somewhere else? So we end up going near the beach. And it's like a little grove thing. So we parked there for the night. We're having beers.

We hooked up. And he keeps telling me over and over that like, he's on this reality show. And I'm like, OK.

But like, he never tells me the name of the reality show.

He just keeps referring to himself as his nickname on the reality TV show. OK. OK. So you're with a very interesting gentleman here.

And so I'm like, I don't really care what show you're on. I'm here for a good time not a long time. Like, let's just figure it out. We fall asleep in the back of the van. I slept in his home.

Wow. What a gentleman inviting you to stay. Yeah, I didn't kick you out. I know. I don't know.

He's going to make you breakfast in the morning. But let's think. The bride sister texted me at 4 a.m. and she's like, are you alive? And I'm like, yep, I'm still good.

I'm gray. I'll be home soon. So he takes me back, fast forward, a little bit, we're at brunch. And all of the girls are like, OK.

Like, tell me about it. Like, we're all together. So I'm just going through it. And I'm like, he keeps saying he was on some reality show. But like, I don't know what show it is.

I'm like, well, this is his nickname. Like, he keeps saying this is his nickname. And that's all he's referring to himself, too. So we looked him up and he was on Redneck Island.

OK, never even heard of it.

But I feel like I know exactly what the show is. It's pretty self-added story. Yeah, wow. And I was like, yep, that's him. I remember those tattoos.

They're making fun of me. He calls me when we're at brunch. And he's like, hey, you want to hang out at the beach today. And I'm like, no, like, I'm with my girls. I'm over list.

But I'm going to have a bachelor at day. So then we end up going out that night. It was wig night, which all the bachelor arts are doing. I have an 80s rocker mullet on. And like, all the other girls have like long curly hair.

And like, whatever. So like, I'm going to stick out like a sore thumb. So we go back to the same club. Because it was the best club. And I'm like, OK, maybe he's not

working tonight because he was working yesterday. I walk in various. And I'm like, uh, so we see each other. And then he's like, hey, like, I'm going to get us a hotel room tonight. So we don't have to stay in the van.

And I'm like, no, like, I have a flight tomorrow morning at 4am. I'm just going to go home. We end up leaving that club. Never talk to him again. Fast forward a week.

The boy part of the trip is going down. And like, we all went to college with them, too. So people are engaged in married and like dating the whole group. And so they all know the story because we're all friends. And the girls told him so they go to the club.

And they asked for this man by name because I know his name at this point. And they're like, hey, and so on. So here, like, we just want to take a picture of him. The manager looks them all that in the face and said,

we have never had anybody with that name working at this club.

Oh, my God, he was just posing as a boxer. Oh, no. I still know what he's able to go out to the parking lot. And they told me that I was like, did I sleep? Oh, that's so scary.

Oh, no. And then so he went also back the next day. He wasn't working the next day. He went back there. He has a hard hard hard hard hard.

If I were you, I would have had to watch as many episodes as it showed me. Awesome. Yeah, did you do that? It's actually funny. I've never even looked up where to watch it.

I'm like, I need to bury this in my past. But then when I saw this prompt, I was like, I have to do that. Okay, listen, I'm gonna watch it. He is on a reality show. And yet he's still pretending to be a bouncer.

He's a man of mystery, Monica. This is hard for me. I guess I have too high in opinion of people on reality show. I think you do.

You got to remember, I was on a reality show in a one-bedroom apartment in Santa Monica.

And my license was very much in jeopardy of being revoked. This is fantastic. Yeah, this is really fun. He accidentally had sex with the celebrity. Yeah, he liked the famous guy.

Yeah, yes, could I do a quick shout out? Of course. So my sister, she's my best friend. And we have weekly debriefs about armchair anonymous. I told her that I submitted for the prompt.

She does not know the full story. This is the first time she's gonna hear it. She said, "Don't tell me if you get on it. Just give me a shout out." So this is my shout out to my sister Lauren.

Oh, that's so fun shout out, Lauren. Hi Lauren. Oh, that was lovely thank you so much. It was great meeting you. Thanks great to meet you too.

All right, take care. See you tomorrow. Bye. Hello. Hi, how's it going?

Good. Oh, I love your voice. It's raspy. Thank you. I'm kind of sick.

So it's not normally like this, but it's cool to see you guys. You should stay sick. Well, no.

I think that sometimes, like I've either been really sick or I

threw my voice out because I was yelling too much. And I'm like, yeah, wish my voice was sick. Dick voice is cool. It is cool. What name should we come up with?

And then I feel like it should mirror your voice a little bit. Phoebe buffet.

Phoebe's good.

It was holding call field sister in catcher in the rise.

It's got a really good literature history.

Okay, so Phoebe, you had a summer fling. This is very recent just a month ago. This summer. Yes, all right. Hot out to presses.

So to set the stage, I went to Europe with my best friend and her boyfriend this summer. And we did a couple different things. But one of the pieces of the trip was going back packing. I had gone through a breakup earlier this year, so I was kind of manifesting some hook-up or a spicy make-out or something on this trip.

But when we were backpacking, I was like, oh, it won't be that. And it'll be like out of Spanish club or something like that. So we signed up for this group trip. It was with a bunch of strangers to go head to head backpacking. So it's essentially like little mountain cabins.

And they have a bunch of caughts. And so you're sleeping with a lot of strangers. And then you're backpacking during the day. And you do like group meals. So you don't have to carry any food or tent or anything.

So it's kind of like bougie backpacking. We signed up for this group trip. And my expectations are very low. I've done group trips before. And it's been entirely women.

And maybe like one random middle-aged guy. But when we got there, there were three guys in their 20s and 30s. And my friends and I were scheming. We're like, okay, maybe one of them will hit it off. We'll see what happens.

And so we got on the trip. We take our little taxi up into the mountains. And the way it was set up was we stayed in a hotel, a hut, a hut, a hostel, and then another hotel. So different combinations every night kind of all over the place.

But really fun.

So the first night we're in a hut.

And there's like 30 people. And trying to assess out the vibes. One of the guys. And I seem to be vibing with each other a little bit. But he's very artsy, very in his head.

And I was like, I don't know if this is mutual or not. So I'm just filling out the first few days. The second night that we're in a hut. It's like Charlie and the chocolate factory style. It's like one long mattress.

And it's my best friend, her boyfriend, me. And then this guy who we will call Ryan. And we're like kind of nudging each other in our sleep. But without really acknowledging it, I'm like, I wonder if I should make a move.

I'm like, no, it's too risky. He might be fully asleep. I don't know if these bumps are intentional. So I don't do anything. And then the next day, we are in a hostel.

And I kind of dropped a clue to the group earlier. I was like, oh, I'm going to go for like a nighttime walk. This evening, if anyone wants to join, try to go see the stars because the sun set really late where we were in Northern Spain. So you didn't see the stars until like 11, 30 p.m.

So I say that a few hours before the end of the evening. And then don't really bring it up. And then it's an open invite to the group. And then later that evening, we're both getting ready for bed at the same time. And we both walk out of the bathroom at the same time.

And I was like, oh, hey, Ryan, do you want to still go for a walk tonight?

And he's like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll go. And so we go for a stroll. But then it's so beautiful. I'm like enamored by the mountains. I'm like, get distracted.

And then I get to nervous to make a move. So I'm like, okay, maybe the next day. I can't tell if he's flirting. He's just very polite, very friendly. And he had also gone through a breakup earlier this year after like seven years.

So I was like, we're in the same boat. But maybe he's not at the same place with healing from his last relationship. So I was taking it safe. And then the next night is our last night in the hut.

And we called it the pizza hut because they have like fresh pizza when you get there. Oh, don't you want to take this trip?

It's amazing that everyone should go.

It's called Pico, say you're open. So you get to the last hut. And again, it's like 30 people. A bunch of strangers coming in. There's trail runners.

There's young hot people everywhere. And they're hot people. One of my friends was like, Kelsey instead of Ryan,

like, you should go after this guy who's like,

openly talking about his open relationship with his wife. And I was like, oh, oh, maybe maybe that. And I'm like, no, no, no, we'll wait and see. And so we get these assorted cop numbers. And it's numbered for a locker.

And then a cop free to sleep in. And you're like, right next to each other. Maybe two inches of space at night when you're sleeping. My friend, like, grabbed me randomly, key number seven. And then her boyfriend had grabbed key number eight.

And then she's like, put it back. And then Ryan came up to the hut later and happened to grab key number eight out of the 35 beds that there are. So I was like, okay, that feels kind of serendipitous. And so we're going to bed.

And there's like a random old man snoring super loud in the corner. And there's like 15 of us in this room.

And I was like, okay, it's now or never, I got to make a move.

I could so beautiful outside. But I was like, I can't whisper because this is such a cramped quarter. It's like someone's on my group trip. It's going to hear me ask this guy if he wants to go make out outside.

Then it's going to be just weird for the whole group that next day.

Because we had 12 people that were all strangers traveling around Spain together.

So I decided to type a note out on my phone as we're going to bed. And so I type out on like this maybe way too bold of me to ask. And I might be reading the vibes wrong. And no offense at all if you're not feeling the same way. But would you want to wake me up later once the stars are out.

And go make out outside. And he had already fallen asleep. Oh my god. Oh my god. So he like kind of woke up startled.

And he was like, yeah, that sounds nice. And I was like, okay, that doesn't sound convincing. And then 30 seconds later he's like, I'm so sorry. I was just waking up. That does sound really wonderful.

We should go do that. And I was like, great. Okay. Then I fall asleep for like an hour. He nudges me awake.

And then he's like, do you still want to go outside?

I'm like, yeah. So he tried to quietly come out of this hut. Even though it's like creaky wood everywhere and so many people. And we walk outside and we're looking at the stars. And it's just a ring of mountains around us.

It's like you're in a planetarium with the stars above you. And it's just picture perfect. So we're just chatting. And I'm like getting distracted by the stars again. And he's like, so did you want to kiss?

And I was like, yes. So he started making out. And it's immediate chemistry. Real man's vibes are very high. We're very into each other.

And after a few minutes, I stopped him. And I'm like, wouldn't it be so crazy if we had sex in the mountains? Oh, I know the stars.

Yeah, that would be amazing.

And I was like, OK, again, he sounds a little hesitant. And then I was like, are you into it? Like, we can tell like keep making out if you want. I'm like, have you like sucked with anyone since your last relationship?

And he's like, yeah, I like sucked with someone.

It's not bad. And I was like, OK, what is it? He's like, I just don't think I'm in a last very long. Yeah. Yeah, very, very honest.

On it's flattering. Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm flattered. And also it's 12 30 and we're laying on rocks. So it doesn't matter. Yeah.

And then he was like, also I didn't bring a condom. And I was like, don't worry. I have some-- No, you, I love this. You are so prepared.

Like a type A kind of a idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is very type A summer fling. I feel like, yeah, I'm going to be prepared for anything. And it's just funny because people were making fun of how heavy my backpack was.

He's like, oh, so this is what you're carrying. And so I run back to the hut and I get the condom. And then we lay down in the grass. Float feed who's on their back. So the other person can look the stars.

Oh, wow. Very respectful. We go back to the hut, sneak in, and go to bed. We kind of fall asleep, sort of hauling hands a little bit. And so the next day we're hiking with our whole group, the whole day.

We're trying to be sneaky about it. Because we don't want to throw off the vibes of the group trip. And so I don't even tell my best friend that's on the trip with me until like 7 p.m. that night. Like, okay, maybe that was a one time thing.

And then that night we're in a hotel because it's the last night that we're with the whole group. And I can tell at the end of the night he's kind of lingering in the lobby. I was collecting money to tip our guides. And you know, are you giving me money?

And I walked up to, and I was like, so should I come to your room tonight?

And he was like, yeah, yeah, let's do that. And so I got to his room. And then we have sex again and it's wonderful. And we fall asleep talking about our breakups. And it's just like very therapeutic.

And I forgot to mention, I kind of like snuck out of my room again. I was rooming with this girl from Poland. And I just had to tell a little white lies. Like, I'm going to go hang out with my friends. You can leave the lights off.

Like, don't worry. I probably won't be back for a little while. And then I was able to like sneak back in at 5 a.m. and no one suspected a thing. And then we were done with the group portion of the trip. They're driving us back to the city in Spain where everyone was flying out from.

And everyone was flying out that day except for my friends. And then Ryan. And I was like, again, what a great coincidence. This is we're going back to the town. And we meet up in the city center.

And we're like, okay, well, we have to do something fun today. We got to like, you paying you now. So I meet up for this like six course lunch. And then we go to a beach. And it's a topless beach.

And it's my first topless beach.

So we're laying on the beach. And it's great. And did you go topless? Of course. You have to. Did everyone all your friends? No.

And Ryan was very respectful. I didn't make a big deal of it or anything. But I was like, okay, bucket list checked. That evening, we all went for late night Spanish dinner. And we're having drinks and talking about like childhood trauma. All four of us together.

And then it's kind of unspoken that I'm going to go back to his hotel with him. Instead of my friends Airbnb.

So we're walking back.

And so we were a little tired.

We didn't really want to like full-on go dancing.

And we stumbled on at 11 30 at night. This like Spanish contemporary dance performance. In front of this old town square. And there are hundreds of people watching. And all these lights going off.

And it was so beautiful. And then we're there just in time for the finale. We're the very slow Spanish song started playing. Hundreds of people are singing along and starting to slow dance. And it was like a movie set.

Oh my god, I'm in love. I know. We got to say he writes films. I was like, he's going to have to make a movie about this. And then it turns into like a DJ set at the very end.

And we go down and we're in the dance circle. And then at midnight they like cut it off. It felt like a very Cinderella moment. And then we were walking back to his hotel. And we're just like humming in the streets singing and dancing and everything.

And we got to his hotels.

But the night together again falls like talking about our lives and childhood. And everything. And in the morning we go out for breakfast. And we're walking around the town. And it's really lovely.

And then we realized I'm like, well, I have everything.

And you're flying out today. And I'm going back to my friends. So we like say goodbye in the middle of the street. Like it was a movie like with people rushing past us. And I put my hand on his cheek and gave him a really soft kiss.

And I was like, bye Ryan. Turned around, walked off. And then it was skipping and smiling back to my friends' place. And that was that. I'm well-dop.

I'm so happy for you. I'm so glad you have this. Was it really like love sick after? Like, did you miss him? No, it was crazy.

It felt like the most perfect thing that both of us needed posts,

long relationships being over. Let you know your heart still works. Oh, what a happy story. I knew it really moved by that. He is an American.

He loves a New York. Call me. [LAUGHTER] I think I could take him for a week. I wonder if you guys will ever have another rendezvous.

I know we have each other's phone numbers.

And his birthday was like a week after the trip ended. And so I texted like a vague message where I was like, I hope our paths crossed again someday. And have a wonderful birthday and everything. And he just kind of reiterated that.

So it just kind of felt like a little bow on top of a little rom-com. Yeah, that's a beautiful summer playing. Yeah. I feel like I'm on my period or something. [LAUGHTER]

Oh, you are like crying. You are like crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, are you literally have a tear? Does it look at your little face?

You know, I was picturing my little Delta. You know, a trip like that? [LAUGHTER] I was like, oh, I love this person. She's like Delta.

Oh. They're all like Delta. Literally, I had that thought monagogues. I was like, man, if I could just see everyone was Delta. I would just love everyone so much.

Yeah. Wow, this took such such a crazy turn. [LAUGHTER] Okay, wow. Yeah, so that was all the things that were happening to me.

It's going to let out the emotions. You're so sweet. I like that story so much. Yeah, it's too me too. Well, thank you for letting me tell it.

Yeah, thank you for calling me. Yeah, thank you for calling me. OK, don't know. Yes, it was on their period, me, and I'm not a tear in sight. But I am, though, I do think that was such a special story.

Oh, yeah, that was really wonderful. That made me so happy. Do you have any shout outs? Yes, my friend, Summer. She's wonderful.

She also listens to like every armchair anonymous episode. And we talk about it all the time. Big shout outs to Summer. Summer. Summer.

We love you. Thanks for listening. Summer fling. Really ding ding ding ding. Wow.

Yeah, that's perfect. Thanks for chatting with us. Yeah, have a great rest of your summer. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Oh, that was great. All right, that was fun. That was fun. That was helpful.

Love you. Love you. [LAUGHTER] Do you want to sing a tune or something? We're going to have a theme song.

OK, great. We don't have a book. So for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're going to add some random questions. And we'll help, oh, oh, cheers.

We'll get some suggestions. Beautiful. On the flyer, I'm wish. On the flyer, I'm wish. Enjoy.

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