The Latest ‘Mormon Wives’ News, ‘Survivor 50’ Ep. 4 Reactions, and the ‘Age of Attraction’ Finale

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I'm here with Callie Currie. Hello, Callie. Hello. How are you? I'm surviving.

How are you? I'm surviving. Yeah, we know randomly my kids are really into the survivor song right now. But I just need a child. Oh, I thought you might survive with the song.

Can you sing it for us? You're so good at it. People really did enjoy my rendition. And that was really off the dome, but last night during the survivor, there was an intense... ...like... I should belong.

Wait. That was weird. What did you just do?

When I fixed my headphone, it went to my phone and pressed play on Callie Daddy.

Oh, well, so you're catching up with Jessie? I was ramenable. I was. Did you watch, do you listen? No, we're going to get into it.

Just give us a survivor theme song. Okay. And then we're going to get into it. Oh, my gosh. On Q's tough.

This is sort of your great intelligence. So good.

“Did you notice the, like, weird between the two tribal counts?”

It was intense. Like, what is that? Chanting? I guess. It's like a weird, like tribal thing.

Yes.

It's intentional, tribal tribal council, but it was really intense last night, though.

I don't know they knew of enough Fiji in words to keep coming up with new tribal names. You know? Uh, I didn't even know they were all Fiji in names. I'm assuming they are. If they're not, that's offensive.

It's like random words. They would make more sense. Okay. I want to get into survivor because we obviously have to talk about what we have going on with this edit of tiff. I mean, I'm so confused.

But before that, give us the, the DL, the download on Jesse Draper, formerly known as Jesse and got to Korra on Caller Daddy. I will say before we log down, there was a lot of chatter in the studio about the. We don't understand why this is so popular, but. I mean, we're on the same page. I don't personally love her interview style.

It's more so like the way she talks. I wasn't able to get to real signature style. Like if I didn't see a clip and I just heard it. Oh, I would know. Maybe.

Yeah. Like people would be like, hey, dad again. Like the way that she's, she's, she's one of one for sure. Yeah, I just like how like. Jesse will say something and she's like, no, no, that's fucking insane.

Like I'm just like that's not necessarily like what I want to get out of this interview. You know what I mean? Well, it might make Jesse feel comfortable. I don't know.

“I think she does because you just generally doesn't push that hard in her guests.”

So I think that they do seem comfortable. So that's good, I guess. It is dark, which, like, where's the light? I think the light is in California. They're all like moving or something.

Jesse's going to be left behind of jazzy styles. Yeah. She's doing pretty well. I'd leave behind if I were her. I don't think she will.

But I would have power her. You could just move on. You'd be like, yeah, jazzy style. No, no, no, no, I would say in Utah. She's super successful.

Just run your business and live a normal life. That's what I know. I know you could get this rich from from to lots. I'm like, maybe I should switch careers. No.

But also, she has multiple salons that she owns and runs. And I think people probably have to like rent some chairs out from her. Right. So has an extension line that ships right everywhere. A lot of people have started using it because of Mormon wise show.

But I think it was successful prior to. If you like that style, it looks good. Good. Yeah. I mean, at this point, you're on the show for fame.

Right. You're successful. It's like, it's not.

“I mean, to be fair, do I think it also probably helps her business?”

Yes, right. But like it's doing well. So here's the pititipits that have made it to me. I've not watched the whole thing.

To blind before their children were aware they'd be getting divorced.

Correct. They had decided that they were getting divorced. And then he ran into it before her. And then gave it to TMZ and a statement to TMZ. Then told Jesse that he did it and didn't know he was going to go public.

And she was like, they screamed shot your conversation. You gave it to them and a statement. So like obviously.

“And then he was like, well, my rap's told me that it's the best thing for me.”

Cool. My takeaway is a dad talk has the number for TMZ. So just. Oh, yeah. Just clocking that.

Yeah. So then also it seems based off. Well, Jesse 100% believes to go to sold the video. TMZ. Even though Jesse said that that he did it.

Which would they say that if he didn't?

It's weird for them to come out and say we did not receive this from Dakota.

If if they didn't just receive from Dakota. But as I think you said on our last podcast or maybe two podcasts to go. If you didn't get her to Dakota, maybe you got from this roommate who suddenly found it. Right. Right.

There's people closer to Dakota that maybe could can hand it over. Or. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it seems as though. All the not all of that talk certain members of that talk have become pretty close. Yeah.

I don't understand how Jesse lost it this long. With Jordan. Yeah.

“I think they if these people don't want to get divorced.”

I think they feel like great shame. She's a part divorced. I know. She doesn't want to do it again. It's like we're all sons on friends.

She didn't want to be divorced again. The things that she was saying that he was doing. I think it's worth using her money for it. Ask court's. Orgy parties.

Telling her she has to go to Pilates every day. She doesn't go to Pilates every day that she he's going to leak the text with Marciano. What's up with these men being obsessed with Pilates?

No, this is our second reality TV mail in this month.

Who's like, please go to Pilates. I don't even know. I don't know. Have they heard of any other exercises? Yeah.

I also like she's tiny. I know. She's like a smudon. Yeah. I don't know.

You've gone to Instagram. She's been posting more workout videos recently for some reason. No, I haven't. It's borderline concerning. How small she is.

She's like also short. Isn't she like a small person? Yeah, she's tiny. Tiny tight. Like, I'd bet money her in Carter.

My daughter were the same close. Your daughter's tall. It's me there. She's in a size 12. So, hey, did I miss Cash's birthday this week?

Cruz's birthday tomorrow. Cruz. I go right. Cash is in September. Yeah.

Cruz is tomorrow and he can like barely breathe. So I wouldn't say he's like super excited. I mean, he's turning three. Barely breathed. Sounds bad.

He's just really struggling with allergies. He is turning three. Yeah. And he wanted it like he's having like a ninja birthday party. Oh, cute, but the theme is dinosaurs.

That's really funny. I got a lot of clothes from Old Navy for my son. And they have a lot of like dinosaurs doing other stuff. Like dinosaurs as firefighters, dinosaurs as a pirate. Is it dinosaurs?

Is it dinosaurs? Could be the next old Navy Prince. We need that. He's so into karate. It's like, it's like ninja turtles, but ninja dinosaurs.

That's him. He is very, very, very into his karate class, but like nothing interesting more than dinosaurs right now. So it's like, that's really cute. A mix. But yeah, we're going to wait to actually do like a family celebration on Sunday.

We're giving away his pacifiers this week, which is added to the no sleep. Then I'm experiencing. Yeah. Sorry. I took a soft course.

Let's get back to your final. Tap your birthday to your son back to the darkness to Jesse. The things that she was saying, and I know this happens all the time and abuse of relationships. Yeah. I think like more time than not.

You start to just like excuse little things and then those things become like bigger and bigger and bigger. Can you imagine your husband or partner blackmailing you saying if you don't go to Pilates every day, I'm going to release these text messages with you and Marciano. Wow. I'm also using escorts with your money.

I simply can't imagine it. No. Okay. That is such a crazy set of circumstances. Like every because it's both like so common.

So shallow. So controlling. It's so so many things.

“It's just like this also this focus on like you need to look a certain way for me.”

So upsetting.

And then meanwhile, I'm going to like spend your money and like just totally like deplorable ways. And also like also like unhygenic. I also like remember that. Like I know that. So a bit about how she just like he kept like asking her to have sex.

So she like finally did it on like the night that they decided to get divorced.

Yeah. And it's just like this obsession with sex and like women being skinny is like so weird. It's just like creepy. Well, it's just creepy. I do think that there is a culture in Utah and I'm saying Utah because I do think it's Utah.

“I don't think it's just Mormonism, but I think it might be fueled by Mormonism.”

We're looks are incredibly important. It's part of the ideal perfection ideal, right? Yeah. Talk about. Yeah.

But like it's just applies to both men and women or it's supposed to. Yeah, I think these dads are are also like obsessed with going to the gym and and this dad talk dad's. I don't know. People being on camera all the time is just fucked up. Yeah.

It's just not good zoom. Take talk phones. It's not good.

Everybody else is interesting with all this is that he really struggled with.

Like he really wanted masculine and feminine roles. And like I guess Jesse said he kept bringing it up. Uh-huh. But then they didn't work and they have a full-time nanny. So she was like he would golf every day.

So what he wanted was her to be submissive is not necessarily traditional gender norms. I think he like I think he wanted to be the one with the money. Right. Not enough didn't want to work. Yeah.

Yeah. I was going to say not enough to like go build something. He wanted. Right. He wanted Jesse's money to just be his money.

Also. You don't even need to build something. Just get a job. And a job. Yeah.

Well, I mean to be more successful than her would take a while. Right. Well, I'm glad she's sleeping. I'm sad to check this long. Also, the cleanup does hold up.

So that's great. He does not going to be able to business. They're going to do a 50 50 split. She did leave the house. He has the house and he has the kids because he doesn't want to take or they don't want to take the kids out of the house.

“And Alex did ask her like, why are you the one that always asleep?”

But she's like, I can stay in the guest bedroom. But like, I don't want to do that. I need space from him. And I've already caught him spying on me multiple times. So like, I don't want that to happen again.

I can't imagine wanting to like leave the kids in that scenario. But I bet she trusted any a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Also, she, um, which she even said while filming.

She was like, I have no idea if he's told our youngest kids. Like, I'm here in California for this pot. He knew I was doing this pot. He tried to file and put it in the filing that she wasn't allowed to pot cast. But she hadn't signed anything so that didn't hold up.

Um, yes, she was in California. I see someone with kids. She has no idea what's happening. She got a new phone number. She still hasn't gone.

Just to talk to him about the kids. But that's it. She's like, I'm just moving.

Like, I'm completely, I'm never giving him this number.

Good for, um, she would also say that when he would blackmail her. And she would get upset and be like, you're going to ruin my life. I employ 50 people. Like, you could ruin their lives. Who can hurt our business.

He would start recording her.

“And she was, and he'd be like, what are you going to do?”

What are you going to do? You're going to act like Taylor. Oh, my God. She was just like, he's best friends Dakota. Like, right.

They've clearly talked about this. Yes, seriously. She does also think that like him and Dakota planned all of this. Well, releasing the gang of filing for divorce. Like, it's just being like head after head after head.

It's so, it's like so horrible. Um, okay. Oh, oh. Oh, okay. Olivia's just like, oh, my gosh.

It's so horrible. It is horrible. I mean, it is, it is really horrible. Question for you. We've been talking a lot about Taylor and like the morality of watching her in the ethics, whatever.

Like, how do you feel about watching Jordan? No, knowing all of this. Yeah, I know. I don't want to watch him. I don't want to watch him.

I don't want to watch Dakota. And I will stand on. I still think it was a bad decision for them to cast. Taylor after knowing way more information than we knew. Yeah.

But like, I definitely fluctuate while listening to all of these things. I just, it's never okay. Like, she obviously has issues and problems and she needs help. I just kind of believe that she was in a pretty bad cycle of abuse.

Yes. I agree with you. I think someone DMed us. I forgot who I apologize. But to say like, you know, we both said like, we didn't need to see the video.

Like, no, thank you. We're like, which I'm seeing this. And someone I thought made a really good point, which is like, actually, we didn't need to see it. To like, understand how bad it was because I even in this conversation. I feel like I'm like mentally.

I'm not as like dismissive of Jordan. I feel like I'm like, yep, fuck that guy. Bad dude took advantage of his wife. But I'm like, I'm like ready to move out of my day. Whereas like the Taylor video was like a show stopper.

Yeah. Like, you know, not in like a positive way. Yeah. And it's just sort of interesting even with all the information. And like, as we were like in the process of interrogating like the standards,

we hold reality people to hearing second hand or reading or report of what happened.

It's just not as disturbing as seeing a video. Yeah. And I feel like this guy is get that. And they like weaponize phones, like they weaponize all this footage and all this shit. And I, I don't know.

It's just interesting. Like, you know, chapel rooms been in the news this week. Like, she films people too. Yeah. Like, you're doing whatever.

I don't know. Phones are just like the, the age we're in with phones is crazy. It's not good enough to say. It's just like in so many ways, because it like fuck things up. But also like, I guess in other ways, holds people accountable.

I don't know. Since you told me about the TikTok bat again trend or whatever. I just think about how crazy it is all this. It's all done there for your page. I almost sent you some because I'm like we talked about too long.

I don't want it. Don't send it to me. Emma. Yeah. It's just all fucked up.

It's not about which it's just interesting. She's clearly still friends with Taylor. And like pretty close. I would assume she's one of the closer of all the women. I'm glad Taylor has a friend.

Yeah, because it seems as though they got really close when like Jordan and Dakota got really close and her and Taylor got really close. Close when Taylor and Dakota were together. And Jordan and Dakota are still really close.

“I think they like essentially lived together.”

It was like alluded to. And well, Jordan's the roommate. They talk 20 for seven. And like she said that Taylor called her right before the podcast. So this is after everything had come out.

And she was like, I answer the phone. And she's like, how are you doing? And Jessie's just like, I know people like only see this one side of Taylor. But like, she is a really good person. And like the fact that she's going through like all of this.

And she knows I'm going through something too.

And the first thing that she asks me is like, how are you doing?

And I'm like, how are you doing? Like, I'm fine. Obviously like we're both going through stuff. But like she was just saying that like she hates that like. People have really only seen like a pretty negative side of Taylor.

And she even said she got to be on set a few times for their bachelor at. And like Taylor just seemed like the old Taylor. That's what she said. And she's like, I just feel like the distance from Dakota. Like you could see like kind of her like coming back to life.

And yeah. And she hates that like no one's ever going to see this side of her. Um, I think Jessie's probably a overly optimistic like she loves her. And you know, probably can't see completely unbiasedly. Does that work?

Seems like she loves her friends. We've said that. Yeah. I think she's done a lot of flaws in a lot of. Yeah.

Cookie mental gymnastics.

But she seems like a solid friend.

So yeah, I was just interesting to hear. Jessie talk about Taylor. And she said that they knew about the video, but no one had ever seen it. And they knew it was in the police report. But like, they weren't allowed to like, um, release it.

“Like the police wasn't which that's why it has to come from someone to go to his camp.”

Yeah, police weren't allowed to release it because of minors involved. Yes. So. But she's like what we knew is bad. Um, and the pausing it seems that they're not pausing because they don't want to be associated with Taylor.

They wanted to pause because they were just like, this is, we just need to like a process. Like we don't want to be like, uh, talking about this in real time without hat. Right. Right. It's like really.

It didn't respond. Yeah. On camera. I was production. I'd be pissed about that by the way.

Which is like production is totally fine. And she's probably because it's their experience. But production has been like pretty easy. Like anytime they've said we don't want to film this or we're not doing this. Like she's like, it's been no issues.

That's good. Yeah. I feel sort of mixed about that. I guess it's not a docu series. So I don't know.

But I, I also think production probably has reasons for being like, yes, sure. We, we, we won't be doing this. Yeah. Yeah. And also like, oh, this is actually really bad.

Yeah. I'm not just here to like give them the benefit of the doubt. But I, I saw very nuanced. It's all very like multi-layered.

“And I think you're pointed about Taylor like being in the cycle of abuse.”

I think she also had a really rough childhood where she didn't have her down.

Yeah. Which her mom was really young. She, like, just had a lot of, she got, you know.

“And I think the, she was held up to like a standard that she couldn't.”

I, she couldn't, I, she couldn't meet. She got married to young. She's still commenting on social that she and Tate have a really good relationship. And she's still like, things, she's a good guy and a good dad. So that's good.

At least there's like a some kind of something stable. Yeah. I does seem that he has been like a, it's from what we know again. Very limited, but it does seem like he has been a good dad. So like, worst case scenario of her kids are in his, his care.

She's probably like, I have no worries about those. Yeah. Yeah. So like in comparison, you know what I mean? Like she's comparing him versus Dakota.

Right. And also just like someone she trusts. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a crazy situation.

Well, thanks for doing the Lord's work. We're listening to call her daddy and fall. Yeah. She moved on to our safe space survivor. Oh my gosh.

What an episode. I was talking. So curious on your thoughts. Um, I can't wait to discuss it. My, as I choose, my main thing that I want to discuss is WTF with this, this tiff situation.

Like, yeah. Jeff said that.

She's never seen anyone with a do rope work.

The way that tip dead. Tiped it. And then we don't even get a confessional from tiff discussing her triumph. Yeah. He said that tiff saved the day.

She did save the day. Yeah. She put coach in a position to succeed. And I can't hear directly from tiff about how she trained at the rotio to be able to undo the bags. Like, what the fuck?

I mean, they would have lost. Yeah. Probably bad. I would have lost. Like, they were in his foot.

So he's sitting. And like, that's just like, we get a confessional about that. And I don't get to hear. I don't ever wonder why someone's sitting. I'm just like, oh, they're not ready.

I can't hear tiff talk about her lassoing techniques.

“But I didn't even know that that's what it was.”

But his foot, that she trained at the rotio. She did it. I have no idea. I've just like, it was not. I don't know.

I have to fill in the blanks. Because I didn't get to hear from her. I'm like, what did she do to production to be like, ex out of the show? I don't know.

I mean, she was like, also she landed the first bean bag.

Yeah. Tiff won this week. 100%. Let's be clear. They wasn't a chance to hear the tiff.

What? Yes. Jeff said it in real time. Yeah. Tiff is the hero.

Say the day. Yes. When's the last time a hero didn't get to have one single confessional? I don't know. I can't believe you're not as outraged as me.

I don't think I'm on the show. I don't think I'm on the show. I'm so far in survivor 50 because there's been three tribes, which we've discussed. It should not be three at this point.

Yeah. Because there's been three tribes. Whoever wins, we don't hear anything. Yeah. But it's been two tribes so much.

Yeah.

“So we just don't get anything unless who was that guy?”

Um, Kyle? No. No. We don't get anything unless some country singers coming to come. Oh, it's like proud.

There we go. It's like brown. I kept saying in Luke Holmes, and I was like, it's not Luke Holmes. Um, yeah. Unless that brown's coming, we're not hearing from a winning team.

And Tiff did not get to speak of the Zach Brown reward either. Like no. And Tiff has been silenced. This is the royal family silencing by and by all over. Yes.

Um, or silencing. Um, what's her name? Dara. Because apparently they were not having about her big on the show. Um.

Uh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But she. This was the most TV times she got without any confessional.

She was like, she's like, Megan whip cream. Sure. Something. She was just whipping her wrist.

She made her tornado. Which also I was like, why didn't anyone else do this? She got through it. I know. I know how much faster.

Jeff said he's never seen that.

The history of survivor and 50 seasons. I don't know what she did. It was amazing. Yeah. It was an amazing skill.

And I loved it. I couldn't. And then I, who was the person who wanted to have an alliance? Was it Aubrey or was it Chrissy? Another woman was like in the water with Tiff afterwards.

Like talking about it. Oh, yeah. And, um, whatever was as barely memorable. And also even in that moment, they showed Tiff but Tiff didn't speak. Yeah.

Yeah. We heard from her for like a second. So I think this is so strange and like inexplicable. Does she win? That.

Are they trying to like go from zero to zero to zero? Definitely doesn't win. The only explanation is that the people who make the show don't like Tiff. That is the only thing I. Plus I don't have a, I don't have a reason for you.

It's been really weird. We haven't heard from her like at all. Yeah. And we've heard from Chrissy morally for Tiff. I can't tell you anything about you.

Yeah.

Just because she cried. Yeah. But we have.

We know more about Chrissy.

All right. I've cleared the air. I got it off my chest about Tiff. He's like dancers producers. Yeah.

That's going on. Yeah. I'm actually going to ask Tyson what he thinks. But they've addressed it too. What was your, what's your hottest topic from this episode?

Well, while watching it last night, I just kept thinking to myself. I am flip flopping all over the place. I was, I was like, do I like risk God? Yes.

I am on the risk God. I. So I, we've been to the local. We like Charlie. And I have absolutely loved how Charlie would not drop the beef.

Anytime he got a chance to be in front of a camera. He was like, I got to get him out of here. Like he was just beyond. He couldn't see beyond it. And that's why he went home.

Because Riz was open to working with him. If 5 a.m. Not getting on the boat or we'll try to be like, What did you do? Who did you tell about the idol?

That was such an error. It's a crazy miscalculation by Charlie. Was he just like pacing around, waiting for them to wake up to like, talk to him about it?

That was crazy.

“Also, you have to give things a little bit of credit for him being like,”

Yeah, you got to go. That was fucking weird. And I don't know what that was about. Also, when he's like our Jonathan mentioned it, and Riz was like Jonathan.

Don't be doing it. I was really stuck on the visual of Riz got sleeping in a sandwich filled boat. Also, curl that. He looked like he was on Newsy. Like in the movie, Newsy's are like,

Living, I don't know, it was really funny. I was stuck on him waking up casually. If I woke up and there was someone sitting on my canoe, I would've been like, oh, are you here to murder me? Like, wow.

Is the machete in your hand? Why are you so creepy? It was so creepy. But I just, I really thought Riz read the situation very well. And I didn't know if I thought he was that capable of that.

Also, I like how excited he is to work with Surrey. And he's just like, like for me. Yeah. And he's just like, I work with the girls on my season. Like, yeah.

He's never seen this for anybody to be.

Never. He's a friend of women. And the biggest lie that he's told is to get into Camilla's good graces. It's a great lie. Except for Camilla clocked it.

But like, she made, she made. And he worked for a second. Yeah. I think in the moment it worked. Wait, he was like,

Yeah. I saw this on my TikTok. Oh, look at this. Okay. Hold it up to the screen.

Oh, my God. Can you see what it says? Yes. P.O.V. Your girls guy.

I love it. He's just like dancing. Damn it. Poor girls. He's like Jeremiah.

But like the inverse of Jeremiah. I mean, yeah. He's not Jeremiah. He's not Jeremiah. Yes.

But I like that he's just like, Yeah, I get along better with girls. And I just love it. I love it more. And he's right on his season.

“Like he really did play like a pretty loyal game with his people.”

Also on his tribe. The women are much smarter. I think Charlie's pretty smart. But like yeah. Jonathan.

Not, not giving me much.

Like Jonathan is incredible.

It's a challenge. It's like he's physically really, really good. Yeah. It's physical prowess is unbelievable. He's like totally.

Yeah. There's no one else on his level. No. And we have some pretty. Like we have some other strong guys.

There's no one close to him. And he makes a Aussie look like he can't swim. He's, which fucking spearfishing. You know, we can't. We're not allowed to see it.

But he's catching a fish. Yeah. And for Jonathan's size to be able to move like that. And the water is pretty impressive. It's very Michael Phelps ask.

Like the way they used to. I'm like, how are you so big with smaller arms and still just moving through this water? Yeah. He like has like the perfect like he's a perfect like not posture. What's it called bro?

Like his yes. I mean, the way that he had to have trained. He's like the Thorpeeto. Yeah. I'm thinking of all the Olympics.

So. But I also thought of his funny that. Riz was obviously like obviously Jonathan didn't say that to you.

“And he told D that he was like, you have to try to really told me that Jonathan”

D was like, no, that didn't happen. So I was like, okay, see it all. No, Jonathan is very strong. But has no strategy. When I was watching, I was like, oh, shit.

I'm underestimating D. I was like, oh, she's really very good strategist. And she, I think that she's like, I think she's getting more and more time to your point. So you're like, if she's going to win, I think she's going to go really far. She's going to go very far.

And Riz and Savannah went really far because they formed this bond.

Yeah. Three.

And I, like, I have goosebumps talking about this because when she told about this,

I managed. It's because the re and her conventional being like, I don't play like this. But I got to give him something because he's given me everything. Like, only is giving Seri and D.

“Everything, which I think he's got to give it to Camilla.”

If he wants it to like work. But although, I don't know, it seems like they dropped their buff. So maybe you want to keep it tight with just those three. I was so embarrassed when Charlie went to Camilla to tell her about the Amelia.

I don't sure any new. And she, like, just played them. Like an instrument. I was happy because that helped Riz. Because she was kind of like, can I trust?

I don't know. Can I trust him? I don't know. And then when Charlie told her, she was like, oh, okay. So he is telling me the truth.

He's just a little annoying. The, the quartet of, yeah, I agree with you. And like, the, the quartet of Camilla D Seri and Riz. God. That's amazing.

It's a great, it's a great group. Like four really smart people. Like they, they are low key. What Emily and Christian are high key. Like Emily and Christian want you to know how analytical

and smart they are. Yes. And these four are like, I don't need everyone to know. I'm just here to play. Yeah.

And it's very appealing. I'm like kind of rooting for them now. Riz wants his wife.

If he's like, amazing at everything.

But yeah. He kind of plays dumb. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. He's obviously better going to the game.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I now understand why they wanted him back. And I feel like, also, I like how conscious he is.

Of having to position himself without anyone having seen him play. Yeah. And how he's like actually using that to his advantage versus. You know, like the way that Savannah was like. How do you guys think I did?

Yeah. That's like insane. That was insane. I think she's letting us all know. Yeah.

Also.

“I think it's smart that he's just like, this is what happened.”

Like I'm telling you guys because if I try to pretend that it's something that I'm not or if I just try to not tell you anything, then he definitely aren't going to trust me. So like you can take it or leave it, but this is what it is. I think it's also, even though, made Charlie hate them.

It's sort of smart to be like, even though my number one was in the final. I went based on performance, not based on. Yeah. Because then people are like, my lines. Yeah.

Exactly. Because it's like it makes you a really good jury member and makes people want to like. It makes people trusty more because it's like you're playing a straight game. Versus like some alliance that you had to worry about. But I was very in the beginning of this episode.

Like when they started showing the Charlie Riz on Charlie's side. And then Charlie, the can you think really like irked me? And then because it's not so bad moves. When he's at with the career on the hammock, I was like, I know.

Sorry, Charlie, you're late. It's a really late situation. You should try the sooner. Also, Dee wanted to see out. And now they're working together.

And I'm just like, wow, what a fucking powerful duo those two.

Soree is magical. Like she is magic. The fact that she wasn't even discussed in like Riz God is just like wants to play with her.

“Dee moved on from you need to get rid of her.”

Yeah. Soree is obviously like, I think Dee had a few conversations with Jonathan. And it was like. This is funny. That ain't work.

Yeah. And got to find a partner. I loved Donkey on Jonathan. I'm sorry. I can't help.

I mean, we also had compared him to Michael Phelps. So you can't have everything Jonathan. Yeah. You're Jonathan. You're Michael Phelps meets the Ian Thorpeeto.

Yeah. That's enough. That's enough for you. Yeah. You got it.

And when Riz is like finished talking to Soree and got up and do like quickly walked over. I was like, do you like it? And Soree was like, Oh, I'm loving this. I was just like sitting there like, Oh, my God. This this trio is like my dream.

I love this trio. And then adding Camilla into it. I just don't know how Kapar Camilla's going to go. But I love Camilla. Um, I just don't know if Camilla's going to fully buy into it because she's just like way more cautious.

So everything she's a little more like because she's cautious. She's more all over the place. Like she could be lowered into a different. Yeah. Alliance.

But like I love this for like this four could go far. I would be great. I don't love D personally. But I think she's really good TV and like I like watching her. I don't love her either.

But I think she's really good strategist. Yeah. Like it's she's it's great for survivor. Yeah. I mean, it's really good.

I love Riz. But he's good TV. Yeah.

Dang Siri out of the mix of people who are still left on the cast. Who would you most want to like have a coffee with or a drink? Oh, taking three out. I know. Seriously, obviously answer it.

“That's why that's why I can't include her.”

Coffee. Tiffany.

My second choice would have been Mike White.

I was number one. I was doing it. Yeah. Which by the way, when they told him that he was gone and everyone is now. Oh, I was like great choice.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I just got Christian wins now.

I feel like Christian wins either. Apparently Mike White still hasn't spoken to Christian. He's like so festive. Oh, that's sad. I mean, Aussie might not have spoken to Christian either.

If it had the choice to not. Aussie gets a lot of screen time, man. I think he's in there. I mean, here I'm from. Yeah, also just like the VIPs of the show.

Yeah. Our Mike White who's gone. Aussie. Sorry. Christian.

Christian. Coach. Oh, it is though. Coach. Yeah.

Colby. And a little devins. Am I missing? I love I love when Pope says devins. There's just something about it.

That's so. Oh, okay. It's awesome. Pretty good. Really good.

That was a great presentation. It was amazing. I love devins.

“If Coach ever tried to night me, I would be like, what are you doing?”

I hate Coach ABC. Anybody but Coach, man. I hate him. I don't hate him. I just am like, ah, not him.

He thinks like he was like, if me, Joe and Colby, like the strongest men here. And I'm like, you're not anymore. No, you're not. Although he is good at being tossed.

Yeah, it's for the sandbag toss. Okay. But you still need a tip to bring it home for him, which I was thinking watching I was like, what part of this would I do? If I was on the team.

Now that I've seen Tiff, I would want to be like taking off the rope. No, no, it's still. Yeah. Because the person that just has to like open the lock. Easiest thing in the world.

Just try different keys. That would probably what I would do. I would like to connect negative for the challenges. So I would have to find a way to come in and help with the puzzles. To do the fucking swimming, which looked exhausting.

But when I saw a genitive, I was like, fuck, that would probably be me.

Like, I'd be the second option.

Yeah. Whoever the strongest is. Right. Yeah, you would be. That's okay.

Cali miserable. They looked dead. Also after not eating. Like watching it and thinking, like, I'll fuck that probably to me. With Joe, I was like, did he not get enough time to recover from season 48?

I was just like, what's going on? A year ago? Yeah. He didn't seem okay. I mean, Jeff is like, this is the slowest we've ever seen him.

No, it was a hard, like, swim climb. Untie. And the ocean swim too. It's like, that's like a lake or pool. And then you're pulling those fucking bean bag things while you're standing.

Yeah. Yeah. It looked miserable.

“That's why I was like, maybe I could sit out.”

Yeah. It's not me. Because you do have to do stuff like that for your tribe. But then if you lose, you're just like dead tired. You've wasted so much energy.

And you don't have food unless Aussie's on your team. And they're having fucking fried scallops on a Tuesday. Yeah. And then you're going to have to do it. And then you're going to have to do it.

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And then you're going to have to do it. And so probably recognize that. Yeah. Real quick. Can we touch on an age of attraction?

Yes. Very quickly. It was the most boring finale I've ever seen in my life.

But if you just fast forward to what they decide, it's amazing.

Four couples decide to stay together. We have to tune into the vial files next week to find out if they are still together. Oh, there's some variations. But yes, it's where the reunion is. Yeah.

That they were going to go.

Yeah. That was wild. So Teresa and John together. Not that shocking though. We thought they would better.

They might stay together. Yeah.

“They were tracking one to me is Libyan Andrew, where she's like fresh out of high school.”

That he was not shocking one for you. I guess Logan and what's her face? What's her name? Vanessa. Vanessa.

I thought he hated her. He proved. He proposed. When he got down with me, I was like, is he doing this for that? What?

I think I'm the most upset about Libyan Andrew. I'm just like, what the hell? Okay.

So I've had a guess, which is really knowing we have to wait for the vial files.

Whatever. The only people that are still together. Teresa and John. Yeah. Yeah.

I think they are. Based on Instagram. Seems like they're like. They're like, lovey dovey. I'm going to take a little bit of hope for Logan and Vanessa because I clearly missed everything.

Derek and Fyfer. Fyfer just like straight up crying being like, I can't wait to move to Dallas for you. I was like, what are you talking about? I thought you want to be your own woman. Like, it was an hour and 11 minutes and it literally could have been 10 minutes.

Like two minutes per couple of like they were going to do. Yeah. It was so, so long.

“That's why I was like kind of like popping up every 20 minutes.”

Don't like wait. They're going together. I did see a TikTok about what was Liby's guy named Andrew. Andrew. Yeah.

Well, not even just about Andrew about a few of the older men that are on this show. I've heard rubblings from different sources.

Like they've always dated 20 year olds.

Well, we knew that about about Andrew. So his friends were like called it under 25 in blind. Yeah, there was a TikTok from a woman that was like, did not expect my boss, my old boss to go on this show. But he always went around with 22 year olds.

And then what she's only 38. So I don't think that's that crazy. It's more of a living daughter. Or daughter. Yeah, if you were to think routine guy at 38, I'd be like, this is not a video.

Yeah. But the main thing is that he has daughters who were 12 to 14. And Liby seems maximum. 12 to 14. Yeah.

She's so immature and so young. Seeming.

“Um, which she said like on her TikTok, she was like,”

I feel like they took any time I said anything. Like funny, dumb, or did see for the edit to try to make me seem as like young and stupid as possible. That's what she said. She's stuck. She's still said it.

Andrew said also like, we say it up all night talking to forehand better trial notes. It was like yesterday for her. Okay. She remembers clearly. Um, and then like Jorge, um, I guess he used to be out and about.

Jorge. Okay. Um, I was really glad that Leah and the other guy who's mom came to the show broke up. Before hand, like thank God. Leah seems sad, but okay.

She was going to commit. She had to break up to preserve, like preserve his own sanity. Also, the breakup was kind of just like he was like, "Hope we're so friends." And she was like, "Yeah, he was an idiot just like a way." Like, "Bye."

They probably had broken up already and read it for camera. But even so he was just done. He was like, "I'm sorry to go." Yeah. Yeah, this is the right choice.

Completely. Oh, my God. What a great experience. I am looking forward to the reunion. So you can watch that and report back.

How do you watch Dirty? No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

It's been a busy time for my friends to randomly start watching it over the past. I don't know how many days have been since we spoke like five days. It just be clear it's been three days. That was Monday. It's Thursday.

So for me. I know. This has been the longest week. I completely agree. It's so good.

I'm going to watch it. I promise. I owe it to you. I promise. I'll do it for Monday.

Also for Monday. Can you watch the love overboard on Hulu? I'm going to watch as well. To host it by Gabby Windy. Yeah.

So our replacement for the batch rat for Monday. Can't great. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure there'll be more Mormon wives for us to cover. These gals just don't stop.

We didn't even touch on the latest with the California piece. But when partying note for the ladies from Utah, Whitney and Connor put their house on the market. It's like a five bedroom house for $899,000. So that's like a lot cheaper than most of the things that are available in New York.

I think it's in St. George Utah.

“So it's not even like in Salt Lake City, but yeah.”

But you know what? Congratulations Whitney. They're listing it for below what they've paid last year. They've paid 9/13.

So they just want out kind of losses with Utah.

So it's a good regards for you. Because you're next house. It's just going to be more. She's crushing it.

And probably going to be in California.

Yeah.

“So I'm curious how what these women make, but she has to be crushing it right now, right?”

I think her brand deals probably are real. Like this is like her 20. I don't even think that's the same thing. Like, well, don't even know that. There's something I don't know.

Chillies. Good for her.

“Um, thank you to our producer Olivia Creary.”

We back on Monday to discuss as we mentioned. Love overboard. Jerry duty. News. Much more.

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