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Behind the Scenes of HULU’s Betrayal: Dirty Secrets | BONUS | Karoline's Story

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Karoline Borega's unforgettable story from Betrayal Season 4 is now a docu-series on Hulu, Betrayal: Dirty Secrets. In this special bonus episode, Andrea Gunning revisits some of the season's most mem...

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Listen to Pod Landia, AoWaj, on the iHeartRadio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport, and Sean Clemens. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Every episode we're trying to help our guests improve their careers by mainly focusing on how they can help us improve our careers. The show's famously super accessible so you can easily jump into any of our 650 episodes and

understand what's going on. We recommend some of our recent episodes with Ben Stiller, Danny McBride, Riz Ahmed, and Mary steambergen. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Andrea. I have some big news. Betrayal Season 4 with Caroline Burega is now a docu series on Hulu. It's called Betrayal Dirty Secrets, and this is a Betrayal bonus episode to share more about what you'll see in the new show.

Caroline was living an idyllic life in Colorado with her police officer husband of more than 20 years. If you've heard the podcast, you know there are two kids revered their father, especially for serving the community. Until one day, a text from him changed everything. I fucked up the worst I've ever fucked up in my life. I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. We met Caroline after she discovered her husband was living a secret life.

That life included multiple affairs that took place while he was on duty. When I went to Colorado Springs to meet Caroline, we toured her beautiful home. It was filled with reminders of her family. But something caught my eye. Many of the picture frames no longer held family photos. Instead, they displayed the stock images that come with the frames. Caroline had done her best to remove pictures of her ex husband from her home.

When it came time to start production of the TV doc you serious, it was something director John Hirsch was thinking about. We put such a premium on family archival on these shows because we think it's one of the key elements to really connecting the audience to the story into the characters and really understanding how their lives were impacted. The day before the shoot was going to begin. I was sitting in her living room and chatting with Nicole,

her daughter and Caroline excused herself and walked upstairs. When she came back down the stairs, I saw that she was holding a large, kind of like legal box. She drops the box down on like the Ottoman in front of the sofa that I was sitting on and I see photo albums.

She had photo albums that she had buried in a closet that she had, I think, to some extent,

forgotten she had or wanted to forget that she had and included her wedding photo album, photos of the kids when they were born. A lot more than I ever expected to see. It was a treasure trove of photos and memories and it really helps you understand the love story

that started when Caroline enjoyed first met. I had a real reaction when I saw the contents of

This box, especially seeing the wedding photos because what I saw was a young...

obviously in love with each other and seeing the smiles on their faces that day, it really did look like something out of a modern day fairy tale. And it drove things home for me because seeing those photos juxtaposed to the emotion that we hear from Caroline and their family in the podcast, you really kind of can see and feel to some extent the impact that this experience is had on her and her family. One of the most shocking moments in our season with Caroline

was hearing Joel current's meetings with internal affairs. There were multiple instances when he lied about having sex during work hours in his police vehicle. So it's serious allegation. This

person said, if I think that they had sex with you, Joel current in your department car.

So we're asking again real quick, understanding that detectors are out there to talk to her right now. Have you physically intimate with this individual? Yes. Did that occur inside a department vehicle? No. Those recordings were some of the most unforgettable moments in the podcast. In the new series, you get another layer of the story, seeing Joel's body language on video and how he denies

deflects and shifts whenever he's confronted with the truth. One heartbreaking moment he may recall in Caroline's story is when she received a message that Joel was having sex with a

tenant in the rental property Caroline owned. Joel accompanied Caroline to the rental to confront

the woman accused of sleeping with Joel. Not only did he deny it, he doubled down at the meeting. This cycle path is got me on the route to divorce. My kids won't be out of the house. Eventually the real story came to light. After putting on a show for Caroline and silencing the

tenant, he later admitted it was true. In betrayal dirty secrets, Caroline took me there for the first

time. Revisiting the house and setting next to Caroline, you can see the grief is still there, right beneath the surface. In the new Hulu series, you'll meet the people you've heard on the podcast, like the therapists who cancelled Caroline, former CSPD officers who worked with Joel, and even one of the women from CSPD Joel had an affair with. She'd been a voice on the other end of the phone. On betrayal dirty secrets,

she offers more details on just how far Joel's deception went.

For a moment, I want to go back to where Joel's double life first began to unravel.

It's something we heard early on in the podcast. A man Joel didn't know knocked on his door when Caroline wasn't home. Caroline eventually learned that Joel had met this man's wife on Fettlite, a king in fetish networking site. Joel had sexed with this woman in his police car in a public park in the middle of the day. The man in his wife reported it all to the Colorado Springs Police Department.

That's when Joel's lies were exposed. It's your range to meet her at the royal park?

Yes, and basically you had sex with her out of the royal park. Yes.

When we filmed the Hulu series, I visited Memorial Park with Caroline. It's a breathtaking site with a lake, swimming, ice skating, and playgrounds all against the backdrop of Pike's Peak, a beloved place in Caroline's hometown that will forever be tainted. During production, we spent more time with therapist Kristen Snowden. Her work helped Caroline begin healing, and you'll hear her share more about betrayed partner recovery.

You're betrayed by the person you've trusted the most, and then naturally being social beings, we go out and seek support and validation and connection with our loved ones, but they just cannot wrap their brain around, unless they've had someone lie to their face about just the most basic

Things.

You're touching upon like so many things that so many betrayed partners are struggling with.

Think God, someone like you has the courage to be sharing these stories.

John McFarlane showed courage, too. He's one of the few former colleagues of Joel Kern at CSPD,

that talked on the record. At first, Joel Kern was somebody that I could look up to and trust,

and he was very skilled in that arena of investigation, and then as time went on, things really really started to change. He's sacrificing his duty, he's using his position for personal gain. I'm excited for you to meet John in the new series. He does a great job at explaining the severity of Joel's behavior from a law enforcement perspective. And finally, there was a special night at the end of recording the podcast. We were invited to join Caroline

and her closest friends for their Sunday night supper club. Caroline made a delicious Mexican feast, and we shared a few bottles of wine. So, you know, every night with him, and then on Sundays, we would get together for dinner, but then it was, this has been so fun. We should do this every Sunday. Well, we won't just do it out like one house every Sunday, like every Sunday, we'll rotate houses.

My first time at supper club, I was a guest. I was warmly welcomed, but I felt a little like a

fly on the wall, observing everyone. For the new documentary series, I returned to supper club, and this time, I felt like I was a member. And I know, and then I sat next to Caroline, I was like, oh, how would you be? Oh, we're not married. That's my best friend's husband. I was like, yeah, I was so good. My wife drops. Yeah, so then the next day, I was like, oh, we're going to this day. I don't care, but it's weird. We're going, we're going.

I asked our director, John Hirsch, why betrayal fans should watch the new documentary series. They are hard stories to tell, but it's all the more motivation to tell the story the right way,

and make sure that like, you know, we see the good that comes out of this. And I think the podcast

and our show do a really great job of seeing the perseverance within the family and seeing where Caroline is now in the headspace that she's in moving forward is pretty awesome. You've heard the voices. Now see the faces, the places, and the moments that stayed with us, long after the recording stopped. Watch betrayal dirty secrets, streaming now on Hulu. On Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. Your duelingo

is not going to come back to you when a man is inside of you. Oh, no, I'm Julie Pignero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking

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