🚨EMERGENCY POD🚨 Celtics Trade Jaylen Brown To 76ers In A Shocking Move

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I hate doing emergency podcasts. I'm sorry. Joining me from Los Angeles out here in Los Angeles is front office insider Bobby Marx. Well, I've changed my location.

Now, I've got some scenery behind it with this plant, which I believe is not real. I believe you're right. I'm just happy I got Wi-Fi down here. I'm like in the Pentagon.

I'm like in the bunker down here. All right. Joining us from Dallas, Texas, the new home of Santiago Dama. That's why we're here, band-migman.

Howdy, partners. I think there are some Celtics fans who are hoping that Shoms Tweet wasn't real. But indeed, it was. OK.

So, Jalen Brown gets traded to the 76ers for Paul George. Two first-round picks. One of which is convoluted, which I'm going to hope Bobby

is going to explain to us in a second.

What's the stretch? And two second-round picks. What? My phone blew up. And what people are saying to me, Bobby,

and this is the league speculation. It's not reporting. But I don't dispute it.

“Is that this was a trade that was made under the dress?”

Hmm. This was not a trade that you would make in a clinical setting. Is that a trade, you know, there's no deadline? It didn't have to do up by the digital life for it first. That you wouldn't do this trade under these circumstances

if everything was equal. That something wasn't equal. We'll see what could set about it. But that's been the multiple P-person reaction from the executives. I was actually on the phone with a general manager who was driving.

And I knew it was coming. I just didn't know the terms. And when I saw the terms, I read them to him. And he was shocked and said, I think, got him at a stoplight. But Bobby, does this feel like a trade that was made

under the dress to you? Well, as my 20-year-old told me on Saturday afternoon on jam brown had a conversation about analytics dad. Sometimes you just got to put your phone down and walk out of the room.

And why I say that is if you're the Celtic, sometimes you just got to walk away from the table and regroup and figure it out down the road eventually. And that's easy for me to say, because there's probably some funky locker room dynamics here.

But this was not the trade package I thought was going to be in place when you look at jam brown. And I know every trade is different and every trade is done on their different circumstances. Like people play way to minute.

The jazz got too first and too swabs.

And Orlando got this for Desmond Bane. But every trade is different here.

“And I think for Boston, you swap a 29-year-old”

for a 36-year-old who hasn't been able to stay on the court. And that's that. And the money's not that different. I mean, it's well, that's a year-old George. But you're not, Jalen Brown's contract.

I mean, it's a heavy contract, but he's a top 10 performer. Yeah, the stuff's not a toxic thing. Yeah, they got significantly worse in this trade. And look, Bobby, you made that reference to put the phone away and let's just say what it was.

You were trying to explain why Jalen Brown's value isn't what you would think for a guy who's coming off of finishing six in the MVP.

And a second team, all in B.A. selection.

And a couple of years removed from a finals MVP. And you got the aggregators got you, which they took one sentence out of a detailed answer. And I'll paraphrase it. The simple fact is the analytic driven front-offs

is believe that Jalen Brown is significantly overpaid. And they don't value him nearly as much as, listen to this Jalen, the media does. To be just straight up, like the media is the one who votes on all those awards.

And so, Wendy, as you're talking to this GM, I promise you one thing he didn't say is,

Right? No.

So I don't think this GM was trying to trade for Jalen,

so it's not just to be clear. And simply, I don't think many words. And that's, look, you can criticize the process, the approach that the Celtics took here, and you damn sure it can criticize the results.

But this was the best offer that they had on the table, and it wasn't for a lack of hunting, of searching, of looking. Now, why didn't they pile more on to their offer to try to get Jalenis? I believe what happened was they decided,

we're trading Jalen Brown. And then they've tried to get Jalenis, and they got caught without contingency plans. And, you know, the one thing I'll be honest about here, I don't understand why they took this offer now.

Training camp doesn't start next week. Like this seems to me to be an offer you take, and like late August or September, because you feel like, well, crap,

“we gotta take the best thing on the table,”

and there's not much good there. That's why I'm saying, people think this was under direct. Like, get rid of him now. I mean, let me ask you this. But again, why get rid of him before the season starts?

It was one thing, but why now? Man, you're asking good questions. I don't have the answers. I'm just telling you, people are reading this as that. That may not be accurate.

I'm not reporting that and telling you what it looks like. I just got a text from, we're talking about, we'll get into the tech in a minute, but I gotta text from, I'm asking around about the pick, you know,

that went out, that we, I have no idea. I'm, my brain is fried, but I asked a buddy of mine, I said, what do you think about this pick? He goes, oh, I know, as we asked about this a year ago, and the league said, we couldn't do it.

(laughing)

- Well, the trade had always changed.

Can Bobby, can you try to explain, like, what the pick is?

“So, one is, 2031, unprotected from Philly.”

What is this, at the one? I'm talking about the first, obviously. - Yeah, I know, I gotta look up on here on the, so the 31-protected first, 2021, first-round pick,

that can convert from a first to a swap, that is more favorite of Boston. So in 28, they've got that clipper pick. - Mm-hmm. - Their own pick goes to,

their own pick goes to Brooklyn, as part of the, that was part of the hard-and-trade. Brooklyn, maybe Phoenix, eventually, it's Brooklyn has it, and then it can convert, and it's protected one eight, so I'm thinking,

gotta be, it's gotta be the clipper pick there. - Right, I wonder what the swap thing would be. - You can swap it to the other pick? - If they keep their own pick, and it's more favorable, I guess they could swap the bat,

was that, so I guess it's a way of maximizing the upside of the pick. - Yeah. - Okay. I mean, it's still the fact to look.

I'll tell you what, having dealt with Boston in 2013, I got PTSD on the summons' crap that I see here, these swaps and all that stuff, they didn't work out good for me. - That's fine, but, but, that's fine.

And the old Boston regime, out in Salt Lake, made a trade that they're on trade today, but-- - And got more in return and less, and no salary back. - Bob, let me ask you this, let's say that Paul George,

let's just say, Philly wanted to dump Paul George's salary,

it's two years and 110 million, so like that.

Let's just say, forget about Jalen Brown for him, let's just say it became Philly's undying desire to get off of Paul George. - Mm-hmm. - What did it cost?

- A pick. - It would have cost him an unprotected first. - One? - It was the only one, it was the first one. - So did they get Jalen Brown for free?

- Essentially, I guess you get, if you got him maybe for A pick, and a couple of seconds. - Yeah, I mean, the market for Paul George was not good. You know, I mean, he had an okay shooting season last year. - And he was great, you know what,

“and I think what helped him is that he was really good”

in the Boston series. - I think what helped him is that the Celtics had nothing else that they could do, that they could stop. And Jalen's gonna play them in the playoffs, like it's almost guaranteed.

- Oh. - Hey, listen, when he sees the Celtics, brother, holy smokes, he is going to be breathing fire. If that's a playoffs, I mean, even like, you talk about one awkward tribute video, or you kid him.

And again, this is a guy who, like, he did enough in a Celtic uniform to have his number hanging in the rafters.

- Oh, he's got to have his number in the rafters.

He was a finals MVP. - I just said that. - I just said that. - Yes. - I wonder, look, things clearly got extraordinarily

sideways between Jalen Brown and the power brokers in the Celtics organization. I'll just put it like that. - I include in Jalen Tatum in there, 'cause this is, I don't, I'm not saying Jalen Tatum.

“And Jalen Tatum could have stopped this, don't you think?”

- Well, no, yeah, and yes, I am including him. Now, I'm not saying, I don't know enough to say Jalen Tatum pushed for there. Like, I don't know. - No, I don't know.

- I don't know that. - I know, I'm just being, but like, yeah, if Jalen Tatum throws himself in front of the train, they're slamming on the brakes, wouldn't you think? So, yes, when I say the power brokers in the organization

and look man, like, how many years did you hear about Tatum and Brown, Tatum versus Brown, that whole thing? And then they want a championship together. But even during that series, Jason Kidd, it wasn't slick, but he tried to throw the stink bomb

in the middle of the Celtics locker room. When he just blurted out during the press conference, I think it was in between games one and two, about, well, yeah, Jalen Brown's their best player. And so he was trying to kind of drag all that stuff up.

“They win a championship, and then it still goes haywire,”

but part of this is, part of this is just a simple fact

that, like, Jalen Brown basically took a victory lap out,

they got bounced from the first round of play. I was talking about how much he loved this season. That didn't help matters. - Look, I just know that the Celtics felt that even though Jalen Brown was talking about himself,

from VP, or there was this MVP campaign for Jalen Brown, the Celtics did not feel that Jalen had the best season on their team. And I don't mean that Jason Tate, I'm not talking about them. They felt that Derek White had a better season.

- Despite that, I get a poor shooting season. - I agree. - They felt he impacted winning the most. - And the statistics that people used to analyze. - Yeah, on-off and whatnot.

- And they said that. - Yeah.

- The fans just said, like, the advanced stats,

“like Bobby said, they don't portray him as a,”

- But this was not an analytic trait. - This was not an analytic trait. - Yeah. - They may have wanted to trade him because the analytics, but this was not an analytic trait.

And I would just say that, you know, they signed Mitchell Robinson on Wednesday. Mitchell Robinson's signing was an analytical signing. - Yeah. - Austin's formulas and their stats really like Mitchell Robinson.

Because in the playoff series two years ago, a central part of their game plan was to get him off the court. They felt he was as big of a three, wait, I was Jayland Bronson was the number one threat, and Mitchell Robinson was in the top three.

They were very focused on getting him off the court, because of what he could do as far as extra possessions and things. All of his rebounds. And the way his gravity on offense enabled,

they'd be not even him to get offense of rebounds, but the nicks to get other offense of rebounds, 'cause you had to put two guys on him to keep him off the glass. They treated him like a star,

the way they defended him, and that series, wanted him off the court. And their same strategy said, we gotta go make our major freeage and move to get Mitchell Robinson.

So that same decision-making core led them to say, we gotta get rid of Jayland Bronson, we gotta get rid of him immediately. I mean, and listen, I do wanna be fair to Jayland Bronson here. This is a dude who, for a decade,

has played damn near every night, has played hard, has played on both ends of the floor, has put up numbers, has showed up in the playoffs, has been a playoff gamer, has, you know, in a decade, you know, he's 83 and 59 in playoff games,

including the championship run, when he was conference finals MVP, when he was finals MVP. So, and that's why this is gonna be, I mean, this is gonna be a PR nightmare in Boston.

It just is, because of who they trade him and, because of what they got back. And there's just no way to spin it, like you got significantly worse next season, and just limited long-term upside here.

- It's hard to spin. And I've done spinning, you know, in front offices. It's really hard. I mean, 36, Paul's 36, right?

- I think 36 for Senate at 29 year old guy that's been hurt. - And is it, yeah, is everything that, everything that James Brown isn't, Paul George is, he's not durable.

“Or, well, I think I said that backwards.”

My point is, he's not durable. He doesn't have a track record of playing well in big games. He hasn't won at the highest levels. And he's not in his prime anymore.

Now, the thing they haven't come is they're both very expensive. - More who- - Collective podcast after this. 4, 5, 8, 9, 8, 9, 9, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0, 1, 4, 9, 0, 1, 4, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9 (upbeat music) - And yes Paul George is 36.

- How about this Bobby, which who got more, the Celtics for this trade or the Utah Jazz for signing and trading Walker Custard to the Lakers?

That was two unprotected Perse first

and two unprotected pick swaps and two sales. - Well, I should kinda. - I looked at our window here down in L.A. and I can see the Hollywood sign and I can see the age father, son, combination,

best part of the deal, right?

“- That's far, it's taken out off the thing.”

- That's far, it's that'll come with picks and everything 'cause they basically got, listen, they took advantage of a situation, and I understand it from the Lakers perspective then, where they were, I mean, they were backed into a corner,

like big time backed into a corner and they got everything along. - A legit big. They had to deliver local legit big and they had to do it now

'cause this was the window that they had to use cap space. - And if it wasn't now, it was gonna be, I mean, we've gone through the centers on these rosters that are under contract

and now you've talked to Daniel Gaffard and, but like, there was no one out there

where you're gonna drop to first, right?

I mean, when they did the Mark Williams trade that got rescinded, was that a first swap and connect as part of that, I think? - That sounds right. - So that, you know, there, listen, I mean, tap the price.

- I mean, it's a better player. - They gave up more in this trade than they did for Luka, at least a draft compensation, ADV. - I gotta say, Paul George has been traded three times. You got traded for Victor for Oladipo

and Domana Cibonis, in Indiana. You got traded for Shade Gillis Alexander. How many firsts? - I don't know, I don't know. - If that's kind of an aspect, put on that.

- 'Cause it was, it was rather the quiet trade with Paul George attached, but yes, still. - Okay. - Now you've got traded for Jalen Brown. I mean, he should write a book.

- It's impressive. And that the thing that's just gonna be impossible for the Celtic Suspane is, one of your bitter rivals got better. You delivered an all-in-be player

to one of your bitter rivals. The team that just knocked out the playoffs, just knocked out the playoffs. And by the way, our best player in that series, you can have them.

- Well, and here's the other thing, too, is that when we've talked about the East and how much it's gotten better, like I looked at the note, the team's down,

“like, and I said, like, I think Philly is outside the plant,”

like just based on where they were based

and how everyone, and basically this trade

is given them life again. - Oh, the Celtics are pushing, are getting pushed back here. - Yeah. - Can I just say just in general,

I know it's free, you know, the transaction season is technically only 24 hours old. How many teams have actually gotten better? - Well, I was actually talking to somebody about this today. And the six has got better.

- The Raptor's got better. - Yeah. - And then, I have any other playoff teams from last year and Peru. - Well, I mean, I'm sure the sons believe they got better

with Miles Bridges. - Yeah. - I mean, you know, canard was a nice signing for them. I think they probably got better. I don't know by how much, and I don't know

that the price of the pick that they gave up was, well, I don't know anybody else. - I mean, I'm sure the heat fans are screaming. What about us with the honest? - I said playoff teams.

- Okay. - Yeah, now they've gotten better enough

So yeah, put the heat on the list, like look.

I think the bulls have gotten better,

“and I think they've actually done some smart things,”

but I don't think they're a playoff team. - Maths have gotten better. - Me just based on that trade. - Yeah. - Yeah, Donald Trump.

- Yeah, especially look as an extension of the AD trade. Like, that's a good little piece of business. Like, I don't think the match are a playoff team next year. Maybe I'll be wrong, but, but as far as like the top end teams, I think we're talking about Toronto Got Better,

Silly just got better, and I don't know that any other team that went to the playoff's last year, I don't know, or any other team that went to playoff game last year, let me put it that way. So I don't have to do semantics crap on the sons.

I don't know, any team that went to playoff game last year that got better. I saw the Toronto and Filly. The more text I get, the worse it sounds. (laughs)

- It's a tough one. But again, all these people, this like, when Luke got traded, we all got bombarded with texts and calls from people who are like, what the bleep, blah, blah, blah, blah.

None of them knew Luke was on the block. Every other team knew Jayden Brown was on the block, and they were like, that's right. - That's right. - Like, all the teams, now,

would Toronto have done what they gave up to provide for, for Jayden Brown? I don't think they would have, or they were Boston would have done it. - Milwaukee turned them down.

They couldn't get Portland interested. Like, I mean, this was not for a lack of effort. Again, I wonder why you do it now, instead of just letting this thing linger, and this is the last resort kind of, kind of bit.

- Therest, that's where we started this. I go back to this, I know. - I know. - How much to rest rate them at the rest?

“- How much to rest, can there be the first week of July?”

- I agree with you, McMahon. - I can't explain it, I'm telling you what it looks like. - The rest of me is when you got to get the team together. You ain't doing it now, I mean, what the hell? I haven't sit on the opposite side of the floor

and suddenly, who gives a crap? - All right, well, also like, the process to hear. - The process to hear, you're silly now, is he? (laughing)

- Hey, Boston's got, Boston's got a big role for him now. - I mean, I think the LeBron might go to Memphis before he goes to Boston. He hates Boston, he claims that the hate Memphis, he only hates the hotel, but he doesn't make such

qualifications on Boston. - How do you feel about that Memphis hotel?

- I don't have an opinion on, I've never stayed there.

- Oh. - Avenue, just for the record. - Yeah, Tyre's Maxi is in Philly, it's a clutch client. - Hey, dude, Philly's interesting. I wonder Philly tried to give him a lead first.

- I would have demanded, I would have tried in BD. In BD's BD's, yeah, I don't know. (laughing) The rise was Ron Mitch, they liked Mitch's and what it's better. (laughing)

- In Glidden Games played. - That advanced stat. - Yeah, man. Can't wait for this press conference. - Ooh, I can't wait for Jason Brown's next twitch.

I don't know, like that.

“Someone's gonna tell me, how do you get on that thing?”

- Should I tweet out analytics one, I test zero? - Oh no. (laughing) Hey, if you do that, I'll let you hit on the clue. One of the best features on Twitter. There's a little button that you can go mute conversation.

(laughing) - I found it over the weekend. (laughing) - You can also pull the old windy move, and I gotta tell you, my discipline's not quite as good

as windy's, but you don't have to look in those mentions, Bobby. - It's okay. - I tell you what, you know what, though,

there's always that you sometimes just want to

you want to punish yourself, 'cause you know, and I tell this to my, I speak at like, that a high school kids, and I said, college guys, I meet with, I said, if there are a hundred mentions in your comments,

and 99 are positive, right? And then there's just that one that just gets, and it just ruins your day. And it just ruins your day, and I was like, I don't know why I just look, take a peek at it,

and everything, but I do. - Oh, let a ruin your day. - You don't know that person, that, you know. - I was some pimple-faced dork, who cares. - Oh, how do you think Brad Stevens mentions

look right about now?

- 2017 is the last time I looked at a mention. (laughing)

“That's also known as three Paul George trades ago.”

(laughing) I look forward to hearing more about this. This concludes the emergency podcast. Thank you to Jackson Tucker, produced it.

Thank you to Bobby, for always being available.

Thank you to McMahon. I'd like to, please make a plea to LeBron James. (laughing) Please just stay on the golf course over the weekend, and let me have a peek at you.

- Hey, I got insight information. He ain't doing a one-teller swift

“and Travis Kelsey get married coming up here.”

So we all will be, what are you there? - He's at the fourth, is that the fourth?

What are you getting married?

I was going to date, that day's in the clear. So whatever you want to do, go out and spend that day and do whatever you want. You won't have to worry about that day. Why, 'cause he's going...

- No, because he's not gonna, you think he wants to see, he wants, no, he does it, it's gonna be. - He might be going, he's, you know, him and old Kelsey, you know,

“a couple North East Ohio legends at the age.”

I bet he's on that, I bet he's on that invite list.

- What about, no, no discussion of Sandra, my move, kill a few. - Oh man, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll give you a little bit.

- Tall and sexton. I don't get nervous on, I don't get nervous on TV. I don't, you know, like touch your group up up up up. - You'll make it nervous when you look at his mentions. - But yeah, but today,

Hannah Storm, who's the best, the best. She gave us marching orders in our like production team. She goes, you guys gotta, you gotta say that name right. Like you have to pronounce it right. And I was, 'cause yesterday we were joking,

I was joking around and rich, you know, whole thing. And she said, "I'm gonna give you the spelling, like, laid out for you." And I was, like, I was so nervous about that. - Like, yeah, yeah, I was, you know,

on a touching Sandra, mama's, and I got it out. It was like, probably it did me about 20 seconds had to say it. But I was like, "Golly, gee." So like, I was like, so nervous about just saying his name.

- That's why I'll call him momoo, and everybody in the way will as well. - Thanks, Ashley. - Thank you for listening and watching the whoop collective.

God, I hope we're not talking to you until Friday. - Don't know the part tomorrow, Adios Migos. (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]