Morgan Stewart McGraw: Boobs and Loubs (FBF)

>> What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. >> We call her, Daddy. [MUSIC] >> Morgan Stewart, welcome to Caller Daddy.

>> Thank you so much, I'm so excited. >> I am so excited to have you here. You got your start on Rich Kids Beverly Hills. >> Yes, I did. >> Shout out.

>> Yes. >> You transitioned to host multiple shows on E, multiple, yes. >> You have impeccable style. >> Thank you. >> And you make it look effortless and achievable.

You're the kind of person that I'm like screen chatting and trying to like remake it. >> Good. >> I don't ever remake it well, but like you're the inspo. >> I like that.

>> How did you pick your outfit today? >> I'm very gents, I'm in my Gen Z feelings today. So this is the first time I've ever worn these shoes. And I bought them because I was like, I need to be I'm a mother now. So I need to be able to wear things that are convenient to running around.

And I was like, I'm never going to wear them.

And then I was like, you know what, today is the fucking day. I'm putting them on and then I had these pants. They don't actually look good on me. But I always, this is my feet, they don't. The pleats in the front make me look like they're warping my thighs in Word.

But I will tell you, I am very big on everything I buy. I make sure to wear it once even if it was the wrong choice. If I have not returned it, I always want to make sure that I've at least put it on my body. So it's not a waste.

And that's really how this all happened. And then I was going to wear a navy turtleneck. Oh, do we have enough time to look at all this bullshit? >> Yeah. >> I was going to wear a navy turtleneck and it read too dark.

So then I grabbed this and then I was like, is this too much like a teacher? That's how it came together. And I just left. I'm just geeking because I'm so happy your shoes are clean because this is the disaster set when people come on with the dirt, can't have it.

>> I was also going to tell you they are, they have been in the world. >> I have never had someone go into that much detail when I asked them that question. And I actually appreciate it. >> Yeah, I like to give you an experience. >> How do you describe your style?

>> Ooh, it's classic with a little bit of a flare. I don't get into the trends, I try to avoid it. I've been able to get into the trends lately because my husband has more accessible and comes so I can like fuck up more. >> I love you.

“>> But if you are on a budget, you should be buying a white and a black t-shirt.”

Two pairs of jeans, black and blue, a black blazer, a beige blazer, and like keep it moving. Don't get into the like croppy tops if you have to replenish your closet a lot. Don't do that. >> Just go with the basic.

>> Just go with the basics because they never, ever, ever, ever, ever leave.

That's why they're called classic. Like getting into the like barbie stripper vibe right now, I can't do it. >> So you're just taking your husband's credit card. >> Oh yeah. >> Well, no, I have my own.

>> He's account. >> Oh, love that. I've been your money. >> No, ladies, this is no, no, no, I gave two children to this person. >> Two.

>> In one year and one day apart, okay? >> I mean, it was for women. >> Yeah. >> It was a lot, but it was amazing, the best thing I've ever done. >> And to be honest.

>> To be honest. >> I've earned it and I will tell you because I get on this tangent and I'm always like, I'm not there. It is still a little bit strange for me because I'm somebody that has my own money, still getting paid out at E.

>> Shout out. >> Shout out. >> Shout out. >> So I really, you know, a part of me is like, well, I could just pay for this, but I just feel like, let him, let him, right?

>> Let him, yeah. >> Yeah, you go have a kid. >> Exactly, exactly. >> Exactly. >> What is a current fashion trend that you love?

Even though I know you said you don't like trends, if you had to pay.

“>> I think the sneakers right now, I feel like sneakers are really big.”

I feel like girls are wearing them all the time and that's something that I'm getting more into. That's what I like. >> Are you into the dad sneakers like the new balance? >> I am, and by the way, I had those in the seventh grade.

Things always come back, it's crazy, but I haven't gotten a pair.

They've been hard to find. I got one pair recently and someone that I work with complimenting me on them and I was ecstatic because I didn't really know. I'm sometimes just going with it, like, I think this looks good, but I didn't really know for sure, and then I put them on and, like, within an hour, someone complimented me and

I'm like, oh my god, I'm in the right lane, I know what I'm kind of doing. I'm happy these are back. >> They never left for me, it doesn't matter, whatever year I'm obsessed with an egg, and I will do like an egg to the knee. >> To the knee.

I'll do it. >> Oh yeah. >> I had to get rid of one black pair because they were really, they had little light a day. >> I had the sand color when I was in seventh grade.

>> Yeah. >> I had to throw them out because they were to the knee and they were just at that point brown. >> Brown. >> So it wasn't as cute.

>> I bet. >> The uggs when people are like they're so ugly and they're comfortable. >> Amazing. And even, like, they're super croplants with the platform now, I'm trying to get my hands on those, but I can't find them.

[MUSIC] >> I just got a new closet and just moved into my new house. >> Okay. >> And I've heard that you're the queen of organization. >> I am really, I've become.

>> I need like a little tip for all the girlies listening and for myself. What is an organization tip that you have?

“That's just a good go-to to remember when we're trying to organize our closets.”

>> Organize your closet based on season. >> So now I'm transferring some of the things out. I don't care what anyone says California, we still have seasons. >> It's fall, no linen, even my son was in linen yesterday. I was like, oh, no, Chris, no linen.

He's not in linen anymore. >> How old is your son? >> Eight months. But why are we in the linen joggers? He has new sweat joggers.

>> Who put up in linen joggers? >> My name? I was like, no, Chris, no.

>> So you had to be like, listen, we're not in season. >> No, we're not in season. >> No linen. >> Do you like how your husband dresses? >> I do.

This is such a question. >> I did. >> Okay, so I really love the way my husband dresses. I will say, and I a sign of a mature relationship and how I've grown is I also do not control it.

He can wear what he wants. I don't have the energy to change things. We are not stylistically completely on the same page, but I appreciate what he wears because it works for him.

“The transition, why are you asking me everything that's going on in my life?”

The things that we transition now, it's the transitioning from date and night where I would like it to be a little bit more formal, but we're having a hard time finding that happy medium because he still wants to be himself. Then I'm like, but just wear the crew next sweater and the jacket. >> Right.

Did he get annoyed by you when you try to tell him what to do? >> It's not a conversation, and he's like a silent, strong person, he's not a loud, strong person. >> Which is actually worse. >> I know, because I'm like, oh, he's like, has his power over me, but nobody usually

does. Yes, but I do like it. >> Is that normal in your relationships that you usually have the power? >> Yeah, usually like dominate and completely like, you know, I overpower people, but I feel like the people that have been in my life in the past that I did have a

always somewhat wanted, we, they've almost wanted to be like me.

Does that make sense? >> Yeah. >> In a way, like I exude like a strength that I think is appealing to males, and then they're like, whoa, this is maybe too much. But with my current husband, I don't need to do that because we're just really balanced.

>> That's really interesting. I can relate to that first, they're so attracted to it, and then they get in the relationship with you. >> Yeah. >> And then it's a full, for sure thing, and that's when they get the most insecure.

But in the dating phase, they love it, and then you settle down, and it's like, it's the same thing as when girls are like, why did you like when I posted bikini photos when we weren't fully exclusive, and now that we are, you're all scared, and you're going and running and liking other girls, bikini photos. >> I'd like for a second.

>> Pick a fucking lane. >> Pick a lane. >> That's really interesting. Okay, so the husband dresses to your liking. >> Yes, he does.

>> But you could elevate a little bit. >> I wouldn't even elevate it. I would transition small things, and I'm only talking about it night. >> So mine is kind of the opposite, which is so strange.

My boyfriend, I've never dated man like this, has the best taste.

>> Oh my God, it's so nice, right? >> He really knows how to dress, and he really understands design. We just read it our house, and he was like, we don't need to get that big of a designer, because I know what we need, smart, and it's like shocking to be, if anything, it makes me insecure. Because I'm usually the one, the guys that I've ever dated, I'm like, I don't give

a fuck what you think I'm wearing. This relationship, I'm like, okay, he has better taste, and I have to accept that.

“>> Which is honestly, that's so smart, because I feel like my husband accepts it, but”

it doesn't think our taste is as different as it is, even though it's not, I think that's a, I feel like it's so fucking different. >> It's shout out. >> It's very, it's very smart of you, because it's so nice to have that. >> Right, just accept it, someone's going to have better style and taste, lean into that.

>> Rather than try to just totally equal, not everything has to be equal in relation to taste. >> I agree with you. >> Okay, good. >> Yes.

>> What is your take on matching your children's outfits? Is mommy and daughter going to be wearing the same thing, and are your children going to be wearing the same thing? >> No, and no. >> Absolutely, fucking, not, like you don't have friends, like you don't need to dress

your kid like to, like you don't, you didn't do that when you were in seventh grade? >> No, you're friends. >> My mother, she made my sister and I wear the same thing for Christmas. >> But that is also a traditional thing, and I feel like that's also that was our parents generation.

>> Sure. >> I feel like I get the Christmas photos and you're in the little blue dress or whatever. Do you send out a holiday card? >> Oh my God, I haven't, but I guess I'm going to this year. >> Why?

>> Because I feel like I should do that, it's like an immature, nice thing. It's like a way to send a photo of your family with like it being in line with it being appropriate. It's an excuse to get a photo out of you guys. >> Right.

>> So yes, I will send a holiday card out, I did not send one last year. >> Are you going to be figuring out the outfit? >> Yes. >> Okay, wait, I did a photo shoot with my kids, and they did wear the same outfit. I forgot, but can I tell you, they were leggings, he was like three months old and she

was however old she was, and it was, they were in beige leggings and a long sleeve shirt. Like he was like pajamas, it wasn't, and we were all in beige, my husband's so mad of me about that. >> You were in beige. >> Leely contradicting.

>> I guess never have my kids watch.

>> Oh my God. >> But by the way, it wasn't like, it wasn't supposed to be a fashion statement. They were supposed to blend in if that makes sense. >> I guess that, okay, you wanted your kids to blend in. >> You wanted to send it.

>> Exactly, exactly. >> That's good.

“>> Do you think your daughter's going to have the same personality as you?”

>> Yeah. >> How are you going to deal with that? >> I don't know, she already brings me to my knees. >> Really? >> Leely is so strong.

You can really tell about children. You can tell who's going to be the fucking loser. He's not going to have friends. I'm kidding, I'm so kidding. Her friends, I'm like, oh, dark, no, I'm sorry, but the way it's hilarious because every

mom thinks that, every mom analyzes it. But I will say, I think that I can tell she's extremely sweet inside genuinely, and I'm not saying that because she's mine. And then there is a side that's quite fierce and strong will. So I do, I think we're quite alike.

>> I feel like I'm very much like my mom, but she's less crazy and less. She's crazy in her own way, but not as outward as I am. She's a little bit more conservative and a little bit more dialed back. >> Did you get in trouble in school at all?

>> This is so weird because every person I've ever been interviewed by in this context has always

asked me that and always asks my mom that and I never got in trouble, I was never late for curfew, I never, it was only in my early 20s that it was a little messy because I was kind of in love and dating the wrong person and by dating, like I was dating him, he was not dating me. >> I was like, oh, I'm coming over, he's like, no, and I was like, no, I'm going over.

“>> And that's when I think my mom called me a few times because I was like, you know,”

I had been in college and then I left college and she was like, what the, where are we going here? What the fuck are you doing with your life? >> I think why people probably ask you that is because I think you have this very outspoken confident nature about you that I would see you as the person in class telling the teacher

that he had the answer wrong. So you were just not like that. >> I was not like that, but I also struggled intensely in school. I had a really hard time. I definitely had severe learning disabilities that were not diagnosed to my senior year of high

school. It was like, she's failing math every year. What's wrong? Let's ignore it and keep her going and then in senior year they're like, you're not going to graduate.

So I have to go do a night school and pass the class. I had to see a math psychologist because I had such a bad learning disability. So I couldn't, I didn't, to be honest with you, I don't know how I know how to spell.

So I could never, I was not like that.

So I kind of just shut my mouth as much as possible. >> Okay, that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> You weren't confident in that aspect. So I'm just going to sit here and listen, but then outside of the school doors, you're

like running shit. >> Exactly. >> Like the playground, you're thriving. >> Yeah. >> Just not where the desk is.

>> Exactly. >> That makes a lot of sense. >> Yes.

“>> And I think that's great for your career also that worked out.”

>> Exactly. Thank God. >> Okay. What is a hot take that you currently have? I know you had to show on E obviously, it has a very realness, are you sad it's done?

>> I just think that's stupid, this decision anyone could have made. I mean literally like the duck, you know how many people do interview, how many people really impress you? Good talent is hard. >> Oh, it's very hard.

>> And somebody being manufactured by like whatever circumstance they're around that makes them popular, doesn't mean that they're there. >> Oh, they kicked you off. >> Oh, they ended the shows. They ended the shows.

And tonight, we pop daily pop and they were like, we're going to sunsetness, serialness. I will tell you, necessary realness was like my little show. I love doing it. I love the people that worked on it. I definitely was, it's not a negative because it was time for me to go and figure out

what I really want to do. >> But are they coming up with new shows to replace you guys? >> I have no idea. They're doing an E news reboot so they're bringing back the show that they got rid of five years ago.

>> Oh, that sounds relevant. >> Uh-huh. And so that they're doing that, I don't know, and beyond that, I don't know. But I will tell you, I saw a psychic when I was redoing my contract last year. And he said, I would sign this deal. You're not going to be in it for the remainder of the time you've signed up for.

>> And I was like, they worked for E news. >> If you're psychic is low keyword. >> No, it's psychic has told me things. He told me that I was going to name my son with a jeaning. I was like, yeah, right Gary, who the fuck has a jeaning?

There's no way. Like, there's no possible way my son's going to have a jeaning. >> And it's great. >> Is he a good man? >> Yeah, it's a good name, right?

>> I'm not going to be the psychic's number. >> Oh, I'll give it to you. He is, he will change your life. >> No, it's like not, it's like he's a medium, it's no joke. >> Were you sad the day it happened?

>> I was emotional because I had been with everybody for so long, but I genuinely, I had done six years of five a.m. work up, wakeups. I was doing at one point the most I was doing four shows a day. I mean, I worked like, it's not physically possible or sustainable to work the way I worked. I'm grateful for the experience, but I was, it was a mutual feeling

of, okay, it's time to move on. I had been feeling like I had hit the ceiling there. >> Was it affecting your relationship or anything? >> It wasn't affecting my relationship with my husband now. It wasn't, no, it was fine.

He knew I wanted to do this, but also, we were in the pandemic. So the last few years hadn't been consistent, and then I also had two babies in two years. So it was the perfect time to, to part ways. >> Wow.

>> Yeah, I had so much respect for how you managed that show, because you kept it so real, and I think sometimes on TV, especially those formats can come off a little like scripted and stuffy

“and just like a little like, eh, do I believe that's actually her personality?”

And you were like fully able to be yourself, which is great. >> And they did though a good job with that, because they had to edit out quite a bit to keep it safe too a little bit. >> That's great, that's great. >> Shout out to the shout out, thank you.

>> Yes, what is a hot take, let's pretend we're on the show. What is a hot take that you currently have? >> So it's hilarious because my PR sent me this like, that was a question I was like, what's a hot take, so I asked my agent. I was like, what is a hot take like, what is it?

She goes, well, hot take, I have is that you can be friends with your ex. Everyone's friends with their ex, and I was like, I'm going to steal that,

and I'm going to credit you, I always credit people, by the way.

>> Love that. >> I never take someone's fashion, nothing, I always credit. >> Well, you can't, you'll get canceled. >> Yeah, exactly, by the way. >> And I then was really thinking about it, and I was like, no, you can't.

She was like, I'm going to read you the quote. >> Read me the fucking quote, because I wouldn't go to the whole episode on this. No, you can't, because only if you are in a new relationship. If you're single, sure, we friends with all your fucking exit. >> Also, by the way, I was going to pull it up, and I was like, it's so much.

But the reality is, is that if you're so able to be friends with your ex,

then why are you breaking up, right? Okay, so I said that, I think there are a lot of factors that go into make, literally my homework, do you love it? >> I think there are a lot of factors that go into making a relationship work, and making someone your person, your long-term partner.

I have a longer list of reasons I am not with exes, but there are definitely a lot of reasons I like them in the first place that still exist. The majority of people on this planet are people you will not have a connection to, not have any chemistry with, and so when you find someone, you actually connect with that's rare and wonderful, and just because it doesn't work out romantically for you,

why does that mean those people should be out of your life completely? >> Let us talk about that. >> It's no fucking way. >> Okay, tell me your take on that. >> I don't think it's, first of all, I don't what you said I think is accurate.

I think you cannot be friends with an ex, unless you were not ever in love with them, and you didn't share a genuine romantic connection because if you're walking away from the relationship so easily and able to revisit, then why separate at all? >> No, I completely agree. I think I've had relationships growing, like one of my college boy friends.

I'm like, oh, he was so cute, and I just walked all over him, and I feel bad for that, and he's such a good guy. >> Yeah, and if I ever saw him, we'd be totally chill. >> I'm not texting him. >> Absolutely not.

That's so strange.

“>> I don't know why do you want, if you want to be friends with them, you probably want”

to be in their lives for other, I just don't, but it works for her, there's no, like. >> But I agree with this sentiment of like, I don't hate everything about them. Of course not, but you take that with you, and you move, you move along. >> You move along. >> You don't need to be marinating over there in that, like, ooh, like, I love this part

of him, so I want to like keep it going in my life. >> Exactly. >> Well, I think that if you're single, you can absolutely be friends with ex. I would say, be cautious about that though, because then you're not moving forward, and you may just keep going back in the awful cycle.

However, the minute you get a new partner, the only way to be able to have like a healthy relationship is to move on from your past relationships. >> Someone that's been inside you, or you've been inside them, or putting something in whatever you hold. >> I get it.

>> Let's just move on. >> Move on. >> You can totally respect. >> Agreed, but it doesn't need to be a texting buddy, buddy, let's get lunch every week.

>> Okay, but didn't I get, I did my homework, because that's a hot take, right? >> I got us, but did you, did you do your homework for this question? >> Well, was the next question, because I was wasted for four days last week. >> One of the questions, where were you again? >> I went to Napa for my husband's birthday, and I mean, we, I mean, did not, I mean,

today is even a struggle for me. >> Are you okay? >> I'm okay. >> You look great. >> Thank you.

Well, I got a glamour an hour and a half. I was like, Tammy, we got till 10, 15. I'm not going to be late. She's like, your eyes are small, I don't care.

“You need to just do the mascara, she's like more lashes, I said, it's 11 a.m.”

We don't need more lashes, Tammy. I'm leaving. >> So that's it. >> I think you look great. >> Thank you.

>> So beautiful. >> Everything is put together. Your teacher outfit is not what you said. >> It's my teacher. >> It's my teacher.

>> It's like, it's my Gen Z teacher love. >> I am obsessed with it. >> Thank you. >> Okay.

Also, I've never been to Napa.

Is it good? >> Great. >> I mean, that's your next place. >> Okay. >> It's so close, it's unbelievable.

>> Do you recommend going there as a couple or with friends? >> No. >> A couple and a couple of friends. It's not a single girl's place. >> You really can throw a party, huh?

I honestly might be my next career. >> I love it so much. >> A party planner. >> I could be a serious party planner. >> I'm like, it took so much work to plan this birthday and I really thrived.

>> I saw the things you made for your husband for his birthday and I was like the every single little detail. I couldn't even come up with that in a year. >> No, it was a lot, but I will say shout out to my mother-in-law because she really helped me. She is like us.

She is like a magical wizard that will just come up with these like insane ideas. And it'll just, she got 22 pieces of metal engraved in 24 hours. She's like, I can get it done. Don't worry, I can get it done. I said, there's nothing I can't do.

She literally had it all fucking done. I was like, there's no way. She had a knee on sign. My assistant picked it up that morning and drove it to Napa. It was done the morning of the party.

>> How nice is it to like your mother-in-law? >> I, we are, I will not to get too crazy and deep. We are like, kindred spirits through life. >> Have you had the opposite before even if it wasn't like an absolute mother-in-law? >> No, not bad.

I've never had a bad relationship with anybody's mother but definitely not to this level.

>> Yeah. >> Because I've had like the sun mommy dynamic where it's a little too incest. Will that you're like, do you want to fuck your mom or me? >> Yeah. >> We're going off, that's not the guy for you, I can just, no, it does not work.

>> It doesn't work at all. >> No, it's, it's so, it's such a turn off also. >> It's sexual, yes. >> Yes.

“>> And it's like, oh, you have to call your mommy every couple hours, like, get it together.”

>> Get it together. >> And that's, and that's something I have to think about with my son. He's got a sweet spirit, so I might need to smack it out of him. >> But he's, he's adorable.

>> And they've got great names. So they're immediately cool by association. Also you, the, the whole thing is going to work for that.

“>> Okay, what is a hot take that you've had in the past that you no longer stand by?”

>> Okay, I used to have a, okay, my, that I used to not like in half the way or her style. And now I love her. >> Oh my God. >> Is that a hot take? >> So good.

>> I used to not be able to look at her. I was like, oh my fuck, why does she annoy me to this level? Now she's my idol, she's my queen. I don't know what the fuck she's done. It's that subtle actress work that's just puffing the right things up.

The cheekbones are sunk in in the right way. The outfits, I'm inspired by them. It's that it's the Tossled Bang. >> She's back right where she needed to be in Devour's product. >> I can't hand, I love her.

>> And we loved her in that movie. >> Love. >> Who didn't love her? >> Yes, and I love her now. >> I think she went through a really weird phase where people were just shitting on.

>> Hey, it was when she was hosting the Oscars and it was just like two of the theatrical, and I think what it read as we've touched on, it's the inauthenticity that people just don't have time for. >> What she and Lame is. >> Yes. >> 'Cause it was tooth theatrical, and we're like, we want you back Princess Diaries.

>> Yes. >> Our queen gives it back to us, and she's back in her era. >> Yeah. >> So I think that's a great hot take that you used to have, and then you don't agree with it, and now you, you know, change your mind. >> Okay.

>> You have discussed pop culture and celebrities for years, so I'm interested to know who would be your celebrity hall pass. >> John Mayer. >> Was that too fast? >> John Mayer. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Really? >> Yeah, my husband knows.

>> It's always, when I was single for a little bit, I was like, I'm going to go out to John Mayer.

Guess that did not happen. >> Have you ever met him? >> Oh yeah. >> Uh-huh. >> Still did not happen.

>> Oh, no, I'm fine. >> I moved on now. >> What about? >> No, I'm fine. >> He's a Libra.

My husband's a Libra. I get along with Libra's. I was like, oh, he would totally, if he had two hours with me, he would fall in love with me. Not, not even a little. Not for a second.

>> What about him, do you love? >> I don't know. I think he's hot. I think he's just got the whole thing down. I'm into it.

I love that he's just mysteriously moving through every single person you've ever met. >> Ever, except me. >> I'm fine.

“>> I'm just saying that's what I'm like.”

>> That's what I'm like. >> I'm here. >> Yeah. >> And would your husband be okay with that?

>> Oh, no, absolutely never.

>> Okay. >> No, no, we're not, we're like, totally, close. >> We're like, yes. >> But, you know who his is? >> Who?

>> I feel like he's also more quiet about his hall passes, which is like the ones you always have to watch out for. >> Like the people that vocalize their desires. >> It's on the table. >> He's like, oh, she's pretty shot the fuck up with she's pretty.

Who says she's pretty about any person in their life? >> No one. >> Unless you're in love with them. >> Right. >> There you go.

>> Who's he? >> I'm going to call. >> Who the fuck? >> Yeah. >> Wow.

>> I guarantee you when I leave, we're just going to have to do this again. Because when I leave, I'm going to be like, oh, he likes blah, blah, blah. He thinks Kim's hot, but like, if you're a frog, if you think Kim is hot, she is like, she is a really beautiful.

>> I've never seen her in person.

I've heard she's, it's like looking at the sun, you can't stare too long. She's, it's like, she's stunning. This is very beautiful and was always very beautiful. >> I agree.

“>> That's why this works as far as it does.”

>> I agree. >> Wow. Okay, so Kim, for your husband and you, John Mayer. >> Yes. >> What a fun couple.

>> Yeah. >> You guys should just do it all together. >> There you go. >> Well, you want to watch out because Kim's single, like, as John's single too. >> Oh, yeah.

[MUSIC] >> What's the most memorable interaction you had when you met a celebrity? >> I mean, it's so, it's not as fun as it should be because it was on zoom, but I guess it's split. There are my highlights, Rihanna.

I went into do a interview with her for Fenty Beauty and it was sort of like you were in a waiting room in zoom and then I opened the camera up and those are very stressful. And doing things over the internet are very stressful. You want to be able to meet someone, be able to do a little small talk. And she was like, oh my God, Morgan, I loved you on rich because you were so funny.

And I literally, I was seven and a half months pregnant and I like peed a little bit. I was so excited and I couldn't hold my lady a tight because it was like flabbing open at that point. That's what happened. And then George Clooney was also so fucking lovely and like a movie star. So those two, the bigger the star, I realized the nicer they are.

>> Really? >> Oh yeah. >> Because you've already achieved that level of success. You just want good, normal, nice people around you to treat you like a human being. You're not insecure, you're not climbing.

>> Jen Aniston? >> Really nice. >> I mean, never met her, I've just heard, just saying. >> I, and I love her so much. >> So much, you're just--

>> I can't handle it. I can't. But you know what? I don't think that pertains to the James Corden issue. By the way, that was the, I've heard, I've heard.

I've heard, we've heard. So there was a lot of news. I love, I feel like now I'm doing like the nightly pop show.

>> But I never usually cover pop culture, but James Corden, which is one thing I just do not

fuck with, is news came out that he is the biggest fucking asshole to waiters. And Balthazar, a very famous place in New York City. That's just like the best French place to go to. I guess he was just like a fucking dick to the waiters. And they banned him from going there.

>> Yep. >> And I don't fuck with that. >> I don't fuck with that ever. >> You are not better than anyone. >> I agree.

>> And I agree. >> How dare you be rude? >> How do you get to that point? And how does it stay quiet for so long? I feel like if I'm rude to anybody, it's everywhere in two minutes.

Oh, not to make myself that big. But I do feel like it spreads around. I don't know if it's a male versus female thing I hate to go there. >> Right, because you're a bit. She's never going to be called a bit.

>> No, she's going to be called an asshole. >> An asshole. But now he apologizes in his unbanned in two minutes. >> He's not just rude to waiters. He's rude.

>> Allegedly. >> Allegedly. >> Allegedly. >> And I've heard allegedly. >> Allegedly.

>> That he's not polite. And I don't know how you actually are a person that's not polite to other people. >> Especially when you hear the status of someone, you have such privilege and such access. And just be so grateful and gracious to people around you because be happy for what you have. >> A great, be fucking nice.

And especially when people are rude to waiters, I'm like, you're disgusting. >> But that's really interesting. Take that the bigger the celebrity the nicer they are. >> In my experience. >> Okay.

>> In my experience. >> Yeah, but he's not even as big as, you know, I mean, Brianna. George Clooney has full movie star. I bet from a young age, she came out of the womb and they're like, he's going to be a movie star.

“>> Yeah, I think he just has that sort of asian is say quava.”

>> Right. >> I don't know if that exists anymore in our-- >> I don't think it does. >> I don't think it does. >> I don't think it does.

>> I don't think it does. >> I don't think it does. >> You know, Austin Butler, to me, doesn't have movie star vibe. >> I think also because he's too close in our age group, but I do think it's possible to grow into it, yes.

I think he's also like borderline too pretty. So it also the he doesn't have that sort of like rugged vibe that is like these other guys have. >> Yeah, I also-- >> Brad can be rugged even though he's prettier than both of us.

>> By the way. >> And my mom had once and he signs something for me. He's lovely. That's another person that's lovely.

>> Did you always want to be in the spotlight?

Because you're meeting all-- Oh, that was bad. >> To be honest, I didn't always want to be in the spotlight. I always wanted to be successful at my talents. >> Mm-hmm. >> That's what it was.

>> What were your talents? >> Like my talent was talking to people, being funny, engaging, and like even-- I feel like my talent secret talent is like even if people hated me. I'm talking early club days and like we had a weirdness

because one girl was sleeping with somebody. I was sleeping. They still told me all of their insecurities and deepest thoughts. And then told me even about the person that they were sleeping with. Like I can disarm people and make them feel comfortable.

So, and I was so-- I struggled so much in school that I wasn't going to like go to college and do that for four years. So I really needed to kind of rely on the assets I had, which were not always so easy to put into a job description. >> I love it.

>> Yeah. >> I think it's great when you like-- the fact that you knew and lucky me to happen. >> Yeah, thank God. >> You're married to Jordan McGraw.

>> I am. >> His dad is Dr. Phil. >> He is.

“>> Does he act like your therapist at family dinners?”

>> You know what? >> Honestly, he's very quiet in real life and he doesn't need to say a lot, which is the opposite of me to fill in the void and same with my husband. He doesn't need to say a lot too. So, every time I'm around him, I adore him.

We get along very well. He inspires me. I mean, the self-made success that that man has had is-- I mean, he tried to talk to me about my e-contract. I'm like, this is too below.

We're not talking. We're not talking. I'm talking about cable television. Like, I'm not getting money back on the sales here, or the like time slots.

I'm like, I just need to know if I should ask for this event. >> Right. >> He is wicked smart. I definitely am like, can he read my mind? >> Uh-huh.

>> Like, does, you know, all my hurt feelings and traumas and like, bad habits, but we have a really nice banter. >> Were you nervous when you first met him? >> Well, you know, I dated my husband first. >> Right.

>> 10 years, 12 years ago. >> For a year. >> For a year. And then we broke up, but I had seen his parents around throughout the times that we weren't together.

It was always energetically very strange.

To the point where I was with my ex-husband in central pay, I met up with my current husband's brother and sister-in-law and went on my in-laws' yacht. And sat with my mother, now mother-in-law, and father-in-law for like an hour.

With me, my ex-husband and my best friend, and I had seen them at rest, you guys. It was, it's the world works in such mysterious ways, and I've always had a lovely relationship. >> So I guess you're friends with your ex?

“>> There, but you can't, can I tell you the craziest thing?”

>> He wasn't there. >> So this is fucking crazy. >> Yeah, he was not there, he was on tour, and it was his older brother who had always gotten along with his wife who I adore.

We met up in central pay and hung out. >> Was your ex-husband like, what the fuck? >> Not at all. >> They all got along. It was not, it had been so many years

that it wasn't, and Jordan was like doing his thing and I did different girlfriends, and I looked back now, I mean, even the person he bought me from 12 years ago, I never got rid of them.

And that wasn't to be sentimental. That was just 'cause it was Chanel, and I was like, well, I'm not gonna get up and I'm gonna keep it. >> And now I look at my closet, I'm like, I now have two children with you.

that your dad gave me this bag when we dated when we were 22 or whatever. It's crazy. >> Does his family also live in LA? >> Yes, they live close to us.

We see them, my mother-in-law comes over all the time, 'cause we're very close. I go there, she made a room for row. That is nicer than my entire house. It's like a joke.

>> And your family lives in LA too. >> And my family lives in LA. >> Is that a lot? >> No, it's, it's, I'm, we got lucky with this. My parents are happily married and have been for almost 40 years.

>> And my, and they're, they've been together 40, fucking four years. They are the most, and I'm not just saying this to you. They're like eating at their kitchen counter, like normal fucking people. Like, they're, I've got so blessed.

>> Okay, that's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> You obviously have been with Jordan for how many years now? >> Oh, my God, 2020. We started to be together.

We were gonna be married only two years in December. It feels like we've been together for 25 years. >> I love it. >> Yeah. >> How do your personalities complement each other?

>> I am so external and extroverted, and he's extroverted in a different way. So he's more introverted and calm and read situations really well, and is a really good judge of character. I have a harder time with that. I'm really open and vulnerable upon meeting people.

And then I'm like, fuck, why did I do that? Shit, I don't trust you. I don't like you. And then I have to back a pedal. He's very good at balancing me out.

He's every time I'm in a bad mood or don't feel good about something. He can talk me off a ledge. I'm working on being able to do that for him. Because he's like, if he gets upset about something, I'm like, don't worry about it.

“And it's like, no, you have to validate someone's feelings.”

Which I talked about in my therapist. She was like, no, you can't. You have to also make them feel. Because I'm like, get in the game. We're fucking fine.

Charge through it. And he's like, can you just like be in my feelings? Maybe I'm like, oh, the feelings. Feel like, oh, right. >> Right.

>> Hey, feelings. >> But yeah. >> Oh, wow, that's really interesting. >> So when he needs a cry, you're like, fuck up, I'm working on it. >> Because that's how I've been.

>> How do you handle him? >> Yes, I'm sweet. I validate, but we also think the exact same way about 90% of things. >> So many. >> Anything we watch on TV, anything we see.

Any, we have the exact same immediate reaction at the same speed, which is very rare. >> That is so rare. >> Yeah. >> And I think that when that happens, you got to hold on to it.

>> That's why we came back around. >> When you guys had children. Was there anything that completely shifted in your relationship? >> No, I think we were really, really, really on the same page about making sure that our relationship was a priority.

And we couldn't be completely only centered around our children. >> So smart. >> You have to do that. >> Or you just will not survive. >> At all.

>> Because there's always something to do.

There's always something to fix. There's always something to talk about. And at one point, we did have to peel back on getting the house like in order and having the right people around.

“And he finally, it dinner was kind of like, you need to learn to stop talking”

after people leave. You need to just relax and enjoy your life and stop worrying about things that can't be changed right now. Because I am such a doer. I want to get things fixed immediately.

He's like, you just can't. >> Oh, that's nice. >> I feel calmer from hearing his words. >> Yeah. >> It is.

>> I think I'm a little like that. Just want to say a little much. >> Yeah. >> And my boyfriend always, like, how about you just calm down? >> Yeah.

>> When they do that, now I don't get upset. Because if another boyfriend in the past would say that, he'd be like, shut the fuck up. >> Yeah. >> But now I know my partner's coming from a good place.

>> Exactly. >> So it's healthier. I don't talk about weddings. >> Okay. >> Okay.

Because I've never really talked about them on my show.

>> Okay. >> You've had two. >> I've had two. >> All the experience you need. >> So first of all, the first time around you had your wedding,

it was a big elaborate wedding. >> Yeah. One 150 people. Yeah. >> How did you decide to have a big wedding?

>> To be honest, that's not even that big. >> That's not. >> It's not even that big. I feel like now, like, I feel like a big wedding is three people. >> Two people.

>> Two or 53. >> I could never do it. >> I never do it. >> And I never do it. >> My parents have a lot of friends and they want them there.

>> Yeah. >> That's not because of you. >> It's not about my parents about me. >> Exactly. >> Okay.

“So you had a small -- how did you decide to do a COVID wedding?”

Because I know a lot of people pushed their back. >> It was just -- I didn't want to do a whole thing again. I really -- it was about the two of us. I knew that it was the right right situation. And we just wanted to do it.

Really people like, oh, you were pretty nothing to do with that. Even at the point where we were dating, I was like, if you don't want to get engaged right away, I don't mind. I mean, I'm happy to just do this with you. The first time.

>> Wait until you're saying the first time you guys had sex.

>> Ever had unprotected sex, I got pregnant. >> Holy shit. >> It was bananas. >> We're even trying. >> Not even for -- I was wasted on my birthday.

We had unprotected sex. I was like, I can just pop a pill for that. >> Right. >> I was like, nothing's going to even happen. I mean, you hear stories that it takes months and months and months.

>> I knew that when I made the decision to have the unprotected sex and my drunk and say that I was like, if this were to happen, which it's not going to. I feel confident enough with this person being the person who's going to be the father of my child. >> That's great.

>> But it was fucking nuts. Four weeks to the day, I was positive on a pregnancy test. It was wild. I was like, what? >> We get when you took the pregnancy test where you --

>> I was like, one day late and I was like, it's positive. And then I took 30 more. >> And then all positive. >> And then all positive. >> You just had a conversation with Jordan and you were like, fine.

>> I'm like, we're just going to have a baby. >> And he was fine. >> And he was fine. And he was thrilled. >> We wanted it.

>> Totally. Like, at that timeline.

“That's why, because I think weddings, like, I'm interested by your smaller”

wedding versus bigger wedding, because I think a lot of people feel so much pressure to have the big wedding or have all these people there. And half the time, I feel like when you do that, it's for other people not even for the people getting fucking married. It's for all the family members to fulfill a need of theirs, whether it's like to show off or validation or just see all their fucking friends.

Do you have any advice for anyone that's like trying to figure out what kind of wedding they want? >> I think the idea for a big wedding is really, if that's something you want, I don't think you should be ashamed by that. I think you should go for it. I definitely think you should think about who you're genuinely going on the friend side. Families more obligatory you have to invite certain family members.

I think on the friend side, do you really feel like this couple is going to be there for ten years and down the road? Because it's also like, well, we like her, but we don't like him. And it's kind of like, you need to really just make sure that you're not inviting people to invite them. >> I completely agree. And I feel like that happens a lot of times.

I've seen people out there weddings and they're like, I feel like I haven't even talked to anyone that I care about. Like, oh my god, where have you guys been the whole night? >> Oh, and I think that's sad if you don't get to enjoy your actual wedding, which I'm interested to know. So you enjoyed your smaller wedding. >> I prefer it.

And I'm not just saying that because it's like my current husband. I genuinely felt relaxed. I felt happy. I didn't feel exhausted. I was able to enjoy, soak it in.

I remember the meal we had. I remember the cake. I remember the photos. It's really about celebrating the two of you. It's in, I don't care how much money you have. We could have had the biggest wedding in the world.

But it's like we didn't want to spend that time small talking with other people. >> I love it. Also, Bride's made. Let's quickly talk about it. >> Oh god.

>> Do you think they're going out of style? What is her? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's really dated.

It's outdated when I got married the first time.

I just, and like most of the girls that I, oh my god, I can't remember. Six. >> Oh wow. >> I mean, I speak to most of them, but like it's just not. It's just having girls stand up there with you.

It's, I would avoid it. >> Were they all wearing the same dress? >> Yes. >> I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. It's, I know. Listen, if people are listening and you want to have a Bride's made, that's totally fine.

>> Finally. >> I just think you shouldn't feel pressured too, because you're supposed to have that made people standing up there with you. Get up there alone, bitch. >> I do, bitch.

>> Do your thing.

“And also you have to wait for all those bitches to walk down.”

It's not. It takes too long. Serimony under 15 minutes. >> Quick. >> It should be nine minutes.

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>> Let's talk a little bit about reality TV for a second.

>> Let's do it. >> You were on, like I said, the show, rich kids of Beverly Hills. >> Yes. >> Which, I mean, what a name. >> What a name for a show.

>> It was insane. >> Looking back. >> Yes. >> Were you playing a character? >> No, I wasn't playing a character.

I was just a younger version of who I am now, and I don't relate to that person as much anymore. >> No, I wasn't playing a character. I definitely felt like maybe I was more turned up in moments. And there were storylines we had to fulfill. Because it is ultimately no matter what.

They follow reality, but you have to, it's in a balance. You have to make gray areas pop. You have to refill things. >> Mm-hm. >> So yeah, it was a job.

Let's put it that way. >> Okay, so it wasn't a full character, but you were kind of. When you look back, what do you like and dislike about that? >> I do watch a lot of it to be honest. >> I really, I put myself out there for other people to enjoy me.

Or not enjoy me. It wasn't for me to sit back and be like, oh my god, you're on TV. >> Right. >> So I'm real in my interview looks for so bad. That was such an early start of glam that I had no fucking clue about.

So it was just tough to watch back. >> I get that.

I mean, I even with my podcast sometimes, I'm like, "Oh, Ace, people are always like,

"Oh, how do you feel that you've had like four years of just podcasting on the internet?" >> Yeah. >> And like, not great. I mean, it's not great. Like, I don't hate it, but I don't love it.

>> Yeah. >> Certain things that I'm like, "Why did I say that?" >> No. >> Oh, no. By the way, I felt like I was way, I guess like,

"Bitchier, immature, insecure, just like what you are." >> It's like a younger version of yourself.

“>> That's what I feel like people have to understand.”

Sometimes people look back at when you put your life on the internet or your on TV and people scrutinize you for one thing. You're like, "I was how old and now I'm different." >> I'm a different person. >> I'm a different person.

>> And if you documented yourself at that age, hopefully you'd be a different person five years later also. >> And both of them look exactly. >> Exactly. >> Okay, so you don't hate the character,

but you just look back and you're like, "I was just like a little bit more aggressive." >> I was a little bit more aggressive and I wasn't as happy. >> Mm. >> You know what I mean?

And I also hadn't had five years of therapy. >> How did you like filming that show? >> I liked it. I took it very much as this is a stepping stone. I had worked towards getting on the show,

not that specific show, but a show in general. I treated it very much like a job. I was on time to things. It was fun because I was friends with them, but it needed, it was a job.

>> What are you like in a social setting when you're drunk? >> Give us like, >> Drowned. >> And very nice. >> Oh, what?

>> I am like, we're going here. What about this? Oh my God, you told me you were interested in that. I get like high off of being able to be louder

And then I am inviting you everywhere. We are going to Rome and then I'm like, "Oh, no, we're not. We're not going to Rome." Like, I am like engaging.

“>> You're the person that meets people in the bathroom”

and you're like, "Guys, come to the table!" >> I love this. >> I love this. >> I'm like an internal club, right? No matter how old I am.

I just love to talk to people, but then I also, if I get cornered and I don't want to talk, then I have a serious psychobrake down. Okay, because I don't know how to get out of the conversation. >> I was talking about that with something the day

where I was at an event and someone was stuck. And you just can see it. Everyone can see it when you're in a social setting and it's the nature of what happens. You start talking someone totally genuine conversation

whenever, but it's forced because you guys don't really know each other. And it was just more supposed to be like, "Hi, how are you?" "Oh, so good to see you here." And then you're supposed to keep flowing, but then all of a sudden everyone else's in conversation

and you're stuck with that. >> Perfect. >> It's like your partner for the night.

And you, I'm always with the partner for the night.

And then I almost get, I get so fucking crazy that I will be like more seeing it through now. We're fucking signed up for this. Keep telling me about your mom. What mental illness did she have?

Oh, tell me about your parents divorced when you were 12. Why the fuck am I in this deep? This is what happens. I get fucking blind and I keep going. >> I do too.

>> And I'm down the tunnel. >> And now I'm like, we can talk about this. Here's my number. >> Oh, my number. >> I'll give you my therapist.

>> Yeah. >> We can get through this. I'll get lunch. I'm like, "I didn't even want to go." >> I didn't want to go.

>> I didn't want to go to lunch. And it's not even like being fake. You're trying to make someone comfortable. >> Right. >> You double down because you're like, "Why are you walking away?"

>> Right. >> Right. >> Just say, "Hi, how are you?" >> And just, I know. >> I know.

I'm a good host. I'm going to start to implement that into my parties.

Like, you guys have been talking a long time and it's nothing mean.

>> No. >> It's genuinely just like sometimes you don't need to have a conversation that long with someone. >> No. >> And you could just say, "I got to go."

But sometimes if the other person's not reading the cue, it can get a little awkward. >> Oh, my God. I've been there so many times. >> Because sometimes they really are excited to have the conversation. >> I know.

>> And you're like, "Uh-huh." >> Yeah. >> And there's other times where I want to talk for an hour to someone. >> Yeah. >> Don't get it twisted.

But it's usually not somebody you've just met unless it's you and I. >> Yeah. >> But it's a good chance. >> Yeah. >> I've got great.

If someone's so self-centered and just keep talking about themselves. >> Really? >> Do you even know my name? >> Yeah. >> Then that's where you want to just.

>> Yeah. >> I agree. >> What is a current social media trend that makes you cringe? >> Oh, my God. All of it.

I feel like I'm just, I know shade to it. I love it, but I just cannot. I don't have the time. I don't know. I can't find it.

I'm trying to do Beyonce cuff it.

I'm trying to fucking figure it out. I'm trying to do that. And I can't. >> It shifts a lot every day. >> I can't even post on TikTok.

I try, but I just can't. I can't get it down. >> I can't get it down. Also, our photos just not good enough anymore. Do you want me to take a video of me walking down the street and pretending like I don't know?

Because I tried to nap it. You know what happened? It was horrific. It was so bad that I was like, how the fuck does this? >> Who took the video for you?

>> I have spent.

“I said, you have to take a video of my outfit because I can't just get a photo.”

I need to do walking. He goes, okay, here. It was so much nose. It was so much. It was so bad.

It just I can't. >> You just knew that's the thing that's awful is. Or even the photos where we're trying to pretend we're not looking. We know someone who is holding our own personal iPhone and taking the photo. >> No.

>> And what has become cool about that? I'm doing it too. I'm looking down. >> Yeah. >> Looking away.

>> Just look at the camera. What happened to this? >> I know. The smiling at the photo. I'm going to bring it back.

That's what we should do. >> I cannot keep pretending. Oh, there's a bird. Oh my god. >> Oh, and I'm looking down.

It's been years of social media and I still have no fucking idea. >> Maybe we can throw it back. >> Yeah. It's time. >> This is my own happy.

>> Yeah. >> Smiley happy. I feel much better. I'm not doing the pressure. I'm not doing anymore.

>> Or just stare at the camera. >> Yeah. >> We acknowledge we know there is a husband or a boyfriend or a best friend or a mom or a grandma. >> Yeah. >> Crouching to get the angle.

>> Exactly. >> Exactly. I'm with you. I agree. >> Okay.

>> Well, this is making me feel better. >> Yeah. >> Okay. When you wrapped your show after five seasons, you're parting gift from your team. >> Yes.

What was your favorite quote from the book? >> It was something about you not knowing your dad. What was it? It was like if you're in heels by the pool, you don't know your dad or something like that. Because really, why are you in heels by the pool?

“Like I don't, like are you going to slip and break your neck?”

Like you were really trying for something. Like you need to call someone else. >> If you're in heels by the pool, you don't know your dad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

And you have like a thigh tattoo that you regret. And like you're in like a black zipper. Like something that's uncomfortable for the lady at the beginning. >> What do you feel about the wedge or like the one with the cork underneath essentially? >> Listen.

>> It looks like a plank from home. >> Home deep out. >> Home deep out. >> I don't hate a wedge. It's a specific, you gotta be specific about the wedge.

But I like white or black. When things are in the gray, I have a very hard time. I spiral. Okay. I need things to be very clear.

You're either my best friend or you're not my friend. I can't have you like kind of be a friend to me. I'm getting to the wedge part of it all. A wedge is the gray, right? Because you're not wearing it by the pool if you have any class.

So it's sort of a useless shoe. Unless that's your heel of choice, which doesn't feel formal enough for me.

“How much time do I have to know all these opinions?”

It's kind of weird. >> No, this is good. This is good. >> So to me, I'm overwhelmed by the idea of a wedge because it's useless to me. But I bought a pair of wedges over the summer.

They had pompons on them.

I brought them on vacation and I never ended up wearing them.

And so I wore them on my show one time. But a wedge just does not serve conducive to getting dressed. >> I agree with you. >> Yeah, I'm not wearing wedges with jeans. It's not 2008.

>> No, no, no, no. >> No, I agree. They're not the cutest also. >> No, they're not comfortable. >> They're comfortable.

>> Yeah. They're definitely comfortable. But you're not, they're not comfortable in the sense that I'm wearing them to coach. >> Right. >> Or that's scary.

Who's wearing those to Coachella? Nobody. >> I hope nobody. Nobody you're talking to. >> No, nobody, what did you think about the boot is in right now?

>> The knee or above the knee or below, like whatever you think.

“>> I think to the knee or high up, I think they both work.”

>> A ankle. >> An ankle. >> An ankle, boot. That's healed. It's unacceptable.

It's never, it never elongates.

It never looks good. You're not doing yourself a favor. It doesn't look good on Irene if I can shake. If you have an ankle boot, return it. It is, I don't care if it's a sock booty, and it's the most flattering version.

It does not look good. It's cutting off your leg, whether your legs nine feet long or two feet long. They're awful. A black, sweet ankle boot. >> I make someone at Clench my asshole and it's it.

>> I can't. >> I owned one of those in college. >> Yeah. >> I thought I was rocking. >> And then there's like throw up on the side because you've walked through it.

>> And then there's like a little change. >> Okay. >> So when you, I love how masculine you fashion advice. But I think this can help a lot of people. >> No, we're lost out here.

So it's either to the knee or high. >> High to the point where you're not getting like if you're wearing a skirt, it's the skirt is covering. >> But do you want it to be extensive leather? >> Or that looks hoist though.

>> No, it's not hoist because we are covering so skirt. So boot, skirt, we don't want, we don't want this showing. We don't want an ounce of skin showing. You also not to confuse you. You can wear pantyhose under the thigh, boot, and wear a booty short.

Like a leather booty short with a baggy sweater. That reads classy and cute. But if you're doing skirt, no pantyhose and boot that's showing trash horror disgusting. Which by the way, I am the biggest trash horror.

But I just not in terms of dressing. >> Okay, this is good. Yeah, it's giving everything you're calling out is like Alex and college. >> Exactly. >> No, by the way, we've all been there.

>> We've all been there. >> We've all been there. >> So if you're a college, do what we're doing actually. >> Do that actually.

>> Here's what you're trying to--

>> You want to be a trash horror. >> Exactly. >> But now I feel like people also do these little tricks that they're like, why doesn't it look the same on me? And those little details on why it works.

I'm like the people these girls are following. >> I got it. And so when you're doing a boot though, and you're wearing long pants, you just, the pants go over the boot. >> Okay, yes.

So if you're doing an ankle boot for that purpose, and it's covered, and you don't know, let's say I'm biguous in terms of the height. >> Fine. >> But if you're doing-- >> Have you ever seen someone wearing ankle boot with a dress?

>> Yeah. >> No, no stalking. >> Yeah, it's just unacceptable. >> It's not making you look better in any way. >> Okay, so while we're wrapping up, because this is actually great.

I never talk about fashion on Colorado, but I actually think this is fucking helpful because it really is. >> Go ahead, we need to learn. >> For fall. >> Yes.

>> There's some like go-tos we need to just be rocking, wearing, living in. >> I think it should always-- everyone should have two oversized crew next sweaters, two oversized crew. >> And I think you-- I'm somebody that believes in investing in a higher price item, even if you can't buy them a lot, because you have them for five years.

>> What's your go-to outfit for a fun sexy date night? >> I always-- all the shit in them, I'm always in a really fitted skinny, crop ankle gene with a blazer of some kind, and a t-shirt underneath and a heel.

“>> That is like what I am comfortable in, that's what I go to.”

>> Skinny, crop gene, heel. >> It should always be a little bit high on the ankle. >> High on the ankle. >> Not all the way down where you're like, no. >> We should have done a fucking vlog episode where I come over and try it on clothes.

>> By the way, I'm ready. >> Maybe we do that. >> Let's do it, I'm ready. >> 'Cause like we need help. >> I-- and those are doubting these help.

>> You're like, "No, I can help you anytime you want." >> Okay, I want to know. >> Yeah, what are you doing next? >> Your show just ended. >> Show just ended.

>> I'm in the process of working-- I'll be very detailed with you right now. I'm working out a budget for a pilot. I'm going to shoot for a show idea that I've had for a really long time. And I'm not going to say exactly what the show is, but it is definitely something that I for years have just been like,

I don't feel like my multi-layered self has been shown. There's always a version of who I am. There's a very empathetic, very nice side of me. I'm just going to talk all about how great I am.

And somebody I've become that I started to really like after all the work I've done.

And I feel like that doesn't get exposed enough. And so this show will interweave a little bit more of the different layers of who I am. >> So are you going to have a reality show? >> It's not going to be reality. >> Okay.

>> There will be snippets of reality, but it will not be reality. >> When you're saying that you really come to light yourself, >> Yes. >> What is that evolution?

“>> I think that I've worked a lot on myself, especially in the last four years.”

And I've really learned why I worked the way I did for so many years.

And ended up leaving relationships really in a sort of a messy place. And friendships in a messy place. And I just feel like I now understand certain things have happened to me over my life. That I understand now why I operated that way. And now I'm moving away from that because I'm undoing all of that.

And so I feel like I get to be a better version of myself. And so that version I would like to be out in the world more. It's also hard to like self-producer self-evidentity to post-video. It's like, it's a lot. I'm exhausted.

I don't want to do that all the time. >> But I love that for you also.

“So exciting because you're now raising children.”

>> Exactly. >> And just like the fact that you're feeling like you're the best version of yourself. Therapy. A God said. >> A God said.

>> And I mean, I'm so excited for the show whenever it comes out. And I'm manifesting me. I think I'll be filming in May. Oh yeah. I've manifested everything in my entire life.

Anything you want in your entire life. You can do that. You just say it. Anything. I'm going to, oh I want, I'm going to date him.

Okay. Except for John Mayer, everything is happened.

“>> Except for John Mayer, but honestly, I will be checking the news.”

Moving forward because I could see it happening now. >> Yeah.

>> There is going to be like all of a sudden they allow a third into their relationship.

>> Yeah. >> And they had a one night group of John Mayer. >> Oh my God. No, I love you. Thank you so much for coming.

>> Thank you so much for having me. >> Thank you so much for having me. We're going to love you and we're taking notes on the fashion advice. >> I love it. I'm coming back anytime.

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