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Bam Margera Turns a Page

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Throwback Thursday (Originally aired: 4/3/24)This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida...

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β€œToday, we have the one, the only Bammar Jarrah, and his girlfriend, Danny Marie, what's up?”

What? I know. So excited to be here. I think she says the F-Bomb more than me. I do.

I am constantly cussing. Do my favorite word? Do my favorite word? Why do you say fuckers, like, because intelligent people cost. That's what we do.

Yeah. I love it.

It's like my favorite word when I heard your first podcast and like, "Oh, this is going

to be fun." I don't have to think before I say that word. I love that. What do you guys want up to, Ram? What have you guys been doing?

We've actually been on the road. We met eight months ago, and about six of the months we've been all over the place, Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana, made our way down here, and we've been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs and soon we'll be making our way to California, but we've been booking

a lot of common cons and horror cons just because we've been doing so well at them, and I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle you could call the Guinness Book because it was like two and a half years at six hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Yeah. We're going to get into that later because I did.

I did research a little bit of that, and I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my

Podcast and on stop.

The mental health system in America is fucking broken. Black. Especially in Florida. Yeah. It's so bad.

β€œI let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had”

like a smile on your face, and that makes me happy because, you know, why wouldn't I look at this eye can. Dude. When you were I was hit on her when you walked out, it's like, hey, baby, you were fine. You're fine.

Girls in here. You manifested her, though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that. Well, I was pretty much, I checked into the sunset market in Los Angeles right on Hollywood

Boulevard. I was just over everything.

I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that it's never ending.

I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit card stolen, and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from just from Spirament, right over who racked up 20 grand in a nightclub at one night. How do you do that?

That means every family don't care those guys, but I'll pay for them. Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottles from that. Well, 20 grand in one night of one nightclub come on. That's very easy. Yeah.

You can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there is the 20. Absolutely. So when I checked in, I got a whole bunch of drugs, and I was like, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do, if you got it, so the next morning I'm like, man, I'm a weak fuck of my

arm. All right, I'm going to go to the pool bar. You better do it. God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a 10 pit bull and a cup of tints because my prior girlfriend's, they always

talk me into buying these fake boobs, and they were always rocks, and they always say that

they'll settle down within a year, and that three years goes by, I'm like, they're still rocks. No one. I want to check it, massage them properly. So when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course, and I overhear somebody

talking. Listen, I'm 43 years old, I was born in Jersey, I'm a Sicilian in Irish, I'm like, and

β€œI look over, I'm like, wow, who's the Sicilian Irish?”

I'm the Sicilian Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach. I'm like, and she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs and I'm like, what kind

of dog? A tan pit bull, I'm like, thank you, dog. I've been saved, and I was on a mission. And you know, the doctor told me in 2013 that my legs were like dry, rounded rubber bands from alcohol abuse, and he was pretty much like good luck trying to skateboard again, which

is what my fashion was. I've been approached since I was 17. And because of that, it just made me drink more. So when I met her, she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day, and you're going to get your legs back and sure enough, they're

like 100% again.

Every day, first thing, first thing we do is stretch walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking

for a skate spot. Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of this hot mess over here? A hot mess. We were actually looking at photos today.

I don't even, I mean, I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected, but it was I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know. Yeah. Later, found out, wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up on myself, my friend Heather

called her out. She couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone, and, you know, I didn't know anybody, and she sent me this text. I was like, celebrities are here. I hate that.

Of course. My mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself, because I lived in Korea town. Couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Korea town is a big deal.

Yeah. Uber. She's like, we're fucking LA's on that emergency. So I'm like, is it really worth going? Like, she's already dropped a celebrity name, like, who knows if whatever.

So my mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed, blah, blah, blah, so she put a little bit more on her mind. Yeah. So I got dressed, and I'm a little LA hot, and then I went to the pool party, and of course, how some girls can be, they weren't, you know, being very friendly, once this one and

I started talking.

β€œI do remember I'm kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded, and just wasn't”

really wanting to date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty. Did you know who he was? I remember like, they were like, bam, our Jared's here. I'm like, bam, I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass, like, okay.

But we're, are the same age. So it wasn't like, I was really watching it every day, like, hey, to bring it ridiculousness, but how it's like constantly on the TV, you know, if you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know, you know, the whole story type of BAM. Right.

When we interacted, you know, the girls, as they know who they are, kind of like pushed me towards him, because they weren't being bullish, but they weren't being friendly, because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before. Oh. So did you even remember that BAM?

Yeah, I did. Okay. Because he was fucked up. Yeah, he was fucked up. Yeah, he was fucked up.

I did a lot of shit when I was fucked up, yeah. I don't remember. Right. So basically, they just, his face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blast, he admitted it, I mean, he told me, and I'm like,

okay, well, are you all like dating? Because I'm single, it's LA, like, whatever. And I just, we just had fun, like we ended up going, I can't even tell you where.

Um, it was just some little place in LA.

It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed.

Were you using them or were you so now? No. I haven't, okay. So we'll get into all that. But I was a drinker.

β€œI mean, if I, my share of things, I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely”

partied, lived in Vegas, lived in LA, but for me, I won, I went through, okay. So 2019 I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14 year old dog, and then a 10 year, almost 10 year relationship ended all within like a year. So I went through a really bad time.

I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more. And then, you know, I started getting sick, like literally sick, and in the hospital, it was getting alcohol poisoning. It was what was happening. I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.

Did you like binge drinking? Yeah, it was just like, you know, Rose starts at 10 a.m. and then before you know, it's eight o'clock at night. You know, it just sounds like a good time. Yeah.

Bad. I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting after the breakup. I hung up with the wrong guy. He was younger than me.

And I started doing bad things again. And then just really nipped it in the butt and just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it. I couldn't pull out.

I wanted to because it was like, I'd rather just have another cocktail and go whatever. So I ended up placing fifth and I stayed serious that whole, like four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021, but when I went out to LA, it was like a couple

drinks here and there. But then I, you know, you're not drinking a couple drinks will get you butt. Oh, absolutely. That was the day. Like, I was in an effett mood, fuck it, mood, whatever.

So I was drinking at the pool that day. And we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person, you know, an alcohol helped me kiss them a little bit. You know, they got banded.

We were at FaceTime. Exactly. She's still committed to the gym at 5 a.m. The next day dropped a 40-bout weight on her tail and broke that shit. Oh my god.

β€œI like shot her the toe and then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn, I think”

I made up a band. I woke up like at the dogs and like, we're worried for seven hours. So I was feeling rough and then I just, I remember like wanting him to call, like I really wanted him to call. And I was like, oh, it's already 4 o'clock.

He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Korea Town and of course the phone rings and he's like, I'm not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card.

So I called randomly from a number that had self-carolina area, which is where she's from. I'm like, where are you? Yeah. Bam.

Bam, I've got his card stolen as far as he was in hot mess that week.

I don't even know if you know this but then I saw this, um, psychic lady who basically

told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my job. Oh, that's not, don't tell Bam that. I'm pulling with the net. I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California because my phone died

and I didn't know how to get to his house. So I had to charge it in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoo space and everything, they go, yo, you band from Jagas, I'm like, yeah, they're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes, they're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo?

I'm like, yes, they're like, yo man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever, I'm like, yes, so then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes and I'm like, no, that's hard. I park at the gas station knowing that my phone's still charging and I'm like, hang on guys, I leave the car running, I'm like, I got to go get my phone.

They're like, oh, cool. I go in, I'm like, hey, man, can I get my phone? She's like, I gave it to your friend, I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here.

She's like, well, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away. I was forced to call 911. So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all Larry up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone.

That nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs and apparently had guns and drugs on him. We took my car, I walk out, there's three helicopters in this guy and I hear from officer

β€œBentley, I'll never forget, Bentley's been crashed into house, I'm like, awesome.”

And I didn't want to press charges because I don't need these guys every time. Yeah. I tagged, I'm at the Vista skate park, next thing you know, I'm going to drive my shooting. So eight to cash on that as well.

Oh, I had no idea about that, so why does, why do you think this should happens to you all the time, babe? Because I listen to a lady to say yes to everything that day. There has to be some level of discernment in your gut though, you got to be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be right around with these guys.

I don't understand that one. It was just like she just said it.

So the first thing that just said yes to me, you're a band, you're going to put it, yes.

What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why do you think, tell a bandmarker say yes? She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my car. Oh my gosh.

Was she a stripper? Oh, she was a psychic. And then the stripper was an accident of Buddy.

Was the psychic in the stripper club?

Yeah, and a tiny bit, no, it wasn't. Okay, so that's totally unrelated. My buddy was recording in Sun Studios and Memphis at Elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay a like three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back.

He gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my car. It doesn't remember doing it. It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people. He was.

And he's so broke. I think he has a payment plan of like $50 a month, which will take eternity to fail.

β€œWell, that's what you're attracted to band, because band was funny all of the time.”

Yeah.

It's never a dorm moment with him and it was like that, you know, people always, you

know, he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated and it's just funnier and that we want him drinking. But he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fine. He just gets funnier.

Yeah. That's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whoever you're with. Yeah, that made you smile. Oh, I love funny.

That's why I married my husband. Yeah. So like he just, I just weed died rolling all night long. And I just remember, like, really want him to call the next day. And then once he called and said, do you want to go for pizza at the rainbow room?

I'm like the rainbow room. That's pizza. He's like, it's the best. That's J's favorite fucking place. So forever and only I'll call you guys because J, last time for the Grammys, he went and

run it out the rainbow room and I'll ship face and then swam in the pool or swam in the fucking fountain. Yeah. The fucking Beverly Hills, whatever the fuck are I. So on our first date, I was, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small

talk.

β€œYou know, I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your T, so perfectly?”

If you wait, she's like, 'cause I brush my teeth with your dick. I'm like, mom, you're a wild wolf. That was after he had tortured me to find a first date. You know how to handle somebody like you and you. Yeah.

I was like, I can keep up with you. It was cute.

The rainbow room pizza and then honestly, bunny, like, it just, I never laughed.

It's how it happens. That's how J and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like, it's like fireworks. And you, you just did this together. Yeah, I was in my jungle being over and I was ready to just check out, I didn't care unless

it was, I, I knew she was the run way away and I asked what happened to her. She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player. It was very abusive and I just packed up the dogs and I just hit the road and LA was my destination. And, you know, he saw a photo of like us in us weekly, holding hands and a little tablet

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The first guy's up with a nine years, so it was just wait, you didn't have dick for nine years. Oh, okay, gotcha gotcha, I was like wait a second, how did that work? He was like the first after the ex, so it was just a personal baseball player and he just was, you know, rest his soul because we don't want to send bad energy in the air,

but he was like dating multiple women who want to be out of breath, who are you and why you here? Well, I'm for how long, nine months, what about you, nine years, what about you, two years, what about you? That's how the athletes are, the athletes musicians, like that's the whole, you know,

That's the whole game they play.

Otherwise it didn't wind up being one big bra with a bunch of cheesets.

β€œBut yeah, he doesn't understand, sometimes the world doesn't understand that I wasn't”

really happy in LA though because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA, I love LA. I lived in LA when I was 19 to 20 and it's just changed.

It's, I always tell everybody Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.

It really hot, it really, back in our time 15 years ago, that place was fucking just like money. The glitter everywhere, you know, and now it's like, it has no soul. And another thing is like, no soul, you could barely get a one bedroom, one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for four million, whatever.

Out here, you could have 20 acres with it. Well, if you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sand pot because that's to it. Yeah. Are you guys going to move to Nashville?

We don't know what we're doing, we're just trying to figure out what the best place is because he needs to be close to Phoenix, me and I just need great girlfriends, some water and some sun. Yeah, well, there's not a lot of water and a lot of sun here, except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas, I'm a West Coast girl too.

It took a long time for me to get adjusted here, but once I did, Nashville is like LA, but with a soul, and it's like your piece, like it's like, everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving and hospitality. It's so healing.

β€œThat's what I love about little towns like this, and in West Chesapeze, Pennsylvania.”

If you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender. Yeah. If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that I just did a test with a friend because we had a party.

I'm like, just watch this. Go Ben, what do you up to? I'm actually going to do Jimmy Kimmo because Jack has two who's coming out, which was true. And now, do we go to work together next pertinent, go Ben, what do you up to? I actually just flew myself out here with my own money and I'm kind of looking for work.

You've got anything going on there. Good talking to your pal, if you're up to something, they all want to be a pal. Yeah. And if you're not, then it's just, it's really fake town is what it is. No, it is.

It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to how are Phil and April doing, how's your relationship with them? Well, I just realized that it right now, it's just a good time to just back off and time. Because they were a part of the whole treatment thing.

Like, I got a guardian, just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was locked me up and throw away the key, put him in treatment, put him in treatment. And that was not the way. And that's the Lima girl. Yeah.

And like Lima. And her last client, Mala Lab, she, she fake the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she, she died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure.

And I've never had a seizure of my life until I met her.

I went into five of them in a row and the last one I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID and pneumonia. That's why. All I knew is I had to, once you get marks enacted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida.

β€œThat means that you have to do 90 days in treatment.”

And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So, I'm like 88 days in and I'm like, I get to, in two more days, I get out hip hip hooray. Then he walks in.

He's like, you broke a new seamstores for like three days and I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. Let's be in hygiene, you're doing another 90 days in another place. Then I'll do 88 days in another place, flick the cigarette out into a bush.

They filmed it smoking like any cigarette with smoke. It was not on fire. Look, cool it the whole notion of force on fire. You're doing another 90 days in another place. They just kept doing it and doing it and doing it.

It's called body snatching. Yeah, straight up body snatching. It's been insurance. Yeah. They just toss you through.

Yeah, you know. And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out of this. They will find, you know. Oh yeah, once you're in the system. So I did everything right to my better notes.

You know, we're going to keep you here for another 90 days. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the fuck out.

And when I did go out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like, I'm in a car. It's convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a fucking Starbucks outside talking to you.

What is it? They can't even use that. I was in music. I had no interweb, no fucking music. No music.

A little bit of TV, but it was just terrible. Well, let's rewind. So you feel like you feel like April. And Phil had something to do with the, is it was a conservatorship that you had?

Yeah, I guess Guardian and Lightham, but. I just didn't agree with him. Did they hire this Guardian?

So basically, we wanted to go.

We got hired from Nikki's brother. They all teamed up on me and said that he needs to go away for a long, long time. They talked my parents into it by like saying, uh, yeah, a $500,000, a lot of money. But if you don't write this check, you're going to be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground, you know, making her, my mom feel really bad about it.

So she just got talked into this and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could

Pretty much con anybody into anything, which interventional, what do they cal...

She tried to like create rehab and stuff.

If you look up her, I try not to talk about her too much because she's listening to everything and I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does. But it's if you're. I would have been Jared if I would have kept doing what she was making me do.

And she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, Ben, there's no such thing as a Florida circle.

β€œYou have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about.”

And I really went on. She like forced me to do it. Like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it. Or what I was talking about.

And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever. Lies. How did she get into it? Like, how did she get into it? How did she get into it?

Like, how did she get into it? How did she get into it? Like, how did she get into it? Like, how did she get into it? Like, how did she get into it?

Like, how did she get into it? There. for why? for no reason I already know the alcohol's good and it's not any bad. What do I have to do with the next class? Learned alcohol's bad and it's not any good. I'm very aware that what are you going to do when you get out?

I'm going to sit on a white clock and fuck all y'all. So Nicky's Nicky and her brother hired this girl. Yeah. Okay, this woman. And she came in and pretty much just like took over your life.

And completely. Fifty-one-fifty. Did you answer everything? Yeah. Fifty-one-fifty.

You know, is what hurts the most is that this chick very good friend of mine, B.J. Investigates. Uh, it's also called the surprise witness. She does a podcast. That's the surprise witness.

β€œShe decided to buy every 911 call of me or did I have done the podcast?”

Anybody can footage every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just wanted everything. And why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on.

When we looked at the body cam footage, my aunt, Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm like hiding in a hotel and then all of a sudden the police show up. I'm like, are you and all of a sudden, my mom's like, "Bam, I have no idea. I have no idea about it." Then as soon as I get handcuffed to take it away, she's talking to the cops like, "They

fucking arranged this." Well, the aunt, Missy, or whoever she is, was like, "Tell him I'm not here." When you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family and I can't watch it. I was crying through like the third one, and B.J. is a very good friend of ours.

They don't like her because she's speaking the truth. And she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize. And you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has and documented proof. So she doesn't, B.J. doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does because--

She's also a lawyer. She's also a lawyer. She's a lawyer. She's a lawyer. Yeah.

Critical and back, I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal

has got to be fucking traumatic. Yeah. And if my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, "Bam, I swear, I had no idea about it." And then a year later, B.J. got the body cam footage, I'm like, "What do you have to

say about this? Well, bam, we didn't know what to do." And it's like, "But you lied to me for a whole year."

β€œLike, I think you even swore on your whatever's-- you know what I mean?”

Yeah. What, where are you using a lot, then? No, because I was in treatment for two years, but as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place, and I said if you moved to Burbank near your

brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, "I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix on the planet except there." So I sent the money, I'm like, "Congratulations, I heard you got a place where's it?" She's like, "Burbank." I'm like, "All right, I'm leaving you."

She thought that I was fippin', but like, the only reason that made me stop right here. She gave me the perfect automatum, her puswire or the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with the first option, and her stretching an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day, I'm like, "Man, I'm sore, I need a massage.

I should've got a stretch coach." I just want to go back to like, just because the family and everything, because we could talk all day, we all probably have ADHD in this room, but the thing that I noticed when we got together is, and I'm gonna say it, because this is the honesty day today, as I've

never had a chance to talk to the world.

So what I experience in the beginning would be devastating to me, because whatever issue you have, your family's supposed to be the ones that you can count on, and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany, and now in BAM, it's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida Shuttle, his name is Joe McBratney. I dare him to come for me.

He owes me $900, but like he was in the Florida Shuttle, and he was sleeping with these girls. I was a he was he was an owner of a rehabilitation center. So the definition of the Florida Shuttle, where BAM was, which his parents seemed to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you, and then say you and I have one, it's

like, hey BAM's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up.

They would let the girls, because if they let you out, and you have a couple ...

they're hoping that you relapse, so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance

purpose. But they would let the girls go out, and then say, I'd say, hey, you know, Haley's over on 10th Street and Del Rey go get her, and then you would keep her for 30 days, and we

β€œwould split the $100,000, and that's how it goes, and that's what he was in.”

So when you have someone like our men here that have money, it's just a constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was like, pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get a hold of him, that I'm realizing don't want to call me either, right, because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there, and

if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead, or he would have just been in the Florida

court. And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben, and an ambulance

took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep, and they pronounced him dead. And I woke up, and I over here, everybody's saying, hey, where's Big Ben? He left, and all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility, I'm a different facility. Yeah, the fucking morgue is better than shit. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.

That's got to be traumatic. But there's some old places trained. They taught everybody to say that he moves along to a different facility. Yeah, the morgue is dead. That's got to be traumatic also having your roommate die right now. They put me in. I had to go in on under Jackass rules with Paramount that I grew up in, pay for it. So I went in

on Adderon Alcohol, which I had a prescription for. And I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever have. I was a fucking zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come. They put me on, fucking by propry on propanol, lithium, latuta, trasodone, c-requil, um, every well butren and abylify known to man. But, but you could say, like, hey, bam, you're a cat. Oh, my cat died neat. You know, hey, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have added. Oh,

she does cool. Like, I was just, no, I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the fucking Irish pubs, crack and jokes on Adderon, alcohol rather than all that shit. Do you feel like they keep people over medicated in these places so that they can control them? That's, of course, that and they, and the doctor probably gets a big kick back on writing all these prescriptions. If, if they, if you leave on nothing, then they lose a client. Yeah.

Oh, he's good to go. It looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on theirs yet. What did it do? Nothing. They said, they diagnosed me with manic bipolar and then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know. If I am depressed, it's because I'm now too, I'm, um, top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like, gain and weight. I'm like, that's it. So I type in depacote,

number one, wake any pills. I practice number one, wake any pills. I'm like, Doc, why would you give me a wake any pill? If, if I told you, I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be. He's like, well, it's an antidepressant. Well, if I keep getting fat or I'm going to be fucking more depressed, you eat, I had. They, um, they literally just give you a pill for everything.

β€œYeah. That's why I won't take any medication. I barely even want to take a leave, like,”

throw my period because it just fucking medications are just, they're like a band-aid and they don't fucking help. You don't, they don't heal you. Yeah. If anything, you get strong out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life. Exactly. And, and I did learn this. The intervention of Steve Timmer was on the body camp footage. And, uh, if you tell the police, don't listen to a word, he says he's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic,

you could be like, hey, police, if you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah, yeah, you're not. No, no, just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look. Like, they just do not believe anything as soon as you say, schizophrenia, don't believe a word. It's actually one of the body camps. You can hear one of the

cops go. He's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone. Now that I'm very good friends with Paul, Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he just gets a friend egg. Don't worry about it. Like,

β€œit's something in that manner of like, don't pay attention to that. Yeah. Did they diagnose you?”

Let's kiss a friend. Yeah. He doesn't even know. He's like, he's always done like things.

I think the answer is not. He's just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution. What's that doctor's death of a friend? He gets a friend. Yeah, what are your diagnosis says? So, how the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar. The other 11 says that I'm not that every time I go to a new treatment center, which would be every 90 days, they'd be, they have you on this, that and the other thing,

and this, this, this, what kind of cocktail is this? We never seen anything like that. I'm like, they said that they were the best of the best. No, we're the best of the best. And you're going to be on this, that and the other thing. Now, switch it up. Then I go to another place. The big, what did that please put you on? This is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen. I'm like, well, they said that they were the best of the best. And that place was the best of the best

said that they suck. I'm like, you're all fucking idiots. Minus, the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happened to run into, how angels come back around is his, and I'm going to say

Her name is Ann Marie.

and so long. And there's a table we usually set up with the Duff's. The Duff's, this is

β€œEdda Fritz, Fritoneh's Hock, and Vera, Ress Holland in the background. She was just sitting down like,”

my therapist, what are you doing? She was there for a different person. She's your original therapist. And she was the only one that I listen to and loved everybody else. You know, and that's another thing. I just feel like she's to a whole new therapist out of, I had 13 therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I got to spill my whole guts out to every, another person and get nowhere because I'm just going to leave again and get her going to give me another. Okay, you'd be quiet

for one minute. So she basically, we just ran into her though. And yeah, so she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do. The very amount thing and everything. She didn't want him on all these things. So they didn't want, they didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules. Right. So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to

Pamela's table and she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this Bob Michelle? Where's Pamela? And then they're like, almost crying because they haven't seen each other. I'm so long. So I just want to say like, there was one good one but she was too good to make it because they want good to go away. They want to feed the system. So if I stop taking the 18 medications, then I don't

get the 5 million that I usually get on a jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped

taking it though. Looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, yeah, what's the point? What's the point

β€œof getting $5 million if I'm dead? Because that's what was going to happen. I can't take that.”

But if you read about Brittany, they say how they open your mouth and make you swallow the pills, and so I just show my tongue. So it was like I'm making, did you have to like sit on face times with them and take your medication every day? All fucking day only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator. And that would just go back to bed. I was like basically just dead inside. They did it to me again recently when I went to go pick them up. That's like another part of

the family. And now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast. But when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever, he was like, I'm going to know Boota Bang Bowl. I was like, you are. Don't do that. Thank you. So then my best friend Heather is like, do you really think he's going to go to Nova and do that? She's like, I don't think so. Then two hours later he's like, man, knocking on her door, the brain, and Hollywood. And I'm like,

all right, we're dating. That's a word. Tell me that again to me. I've stressed out. But you know, when he had to go to court, was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal. But I didn't know that he wasn't coming back. So they kept. I didn't know either. So. So it was because I had a little time. Tiff with my brother. I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Princess

Soundboard from Paisley Park. And I knew that I would be in treatment. And once I got out, I was going to go to California to hike with the Shaman loose all his weight. So I came home. Didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back, it was more like Swinney leaving. Fuck you's when I'm leaving. So we got a little Tiff about that. I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the

people that were working in the studio at my house saying, we did not know Bam would be home. He's ruining our program. We need to get him back to California, ASAP, or 51, 50,

and for no reason, just to not. So I recall the first thing I saw, which is Simon Billy,

I don't guitar. And either smash it with him or on the kitchen, whatever. And then I told his girlfriend, who was trying to rescue a cat. She fell off the ladder and shattered her heel. So I said, I put a bear trap on our other foot, knowing that I don't own a bear trap. And I certainly didn't fly in with one. So I got a terrorist to death threat charge of a bear trap. And I put my fucking hand in one of Jack S. too. And it didn't even break.

So cool your goddamn jets, everyone. That's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you. It's just, it's the little things that piss me off. Villabalo from him is my favorite band. So I have a big picture right as soon as you walk in. There's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with a, you know, just super disrespectful. And then I just bought Phoenix, a little blue Lamborghini car, a special car,

then I left because when I got arrested on the man hunt, when they called the police on me to 51-50 me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could just put it right in the house. He got so sun dry that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anymore. What is your relationship with Nicky now? There isn't one. Yeah. The lawyers, she, she lured up with a lawyer, which was completely ridiculous

because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you,

β€œyou have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that.”

We're, so she's trying to tell the, the lawyer that her name is Nicole Marger, that name does not

Exist on paper.

the kindness of my own heart for child support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally, we went to court with her getting the lawyer and the judge was like, you only get $500 a month

β€œif you're not even married. So I'm like, you, you should have been happy with the five ring.”

Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too. All the money has gone to the lawyers. Congratulations of our matter. We could have figured out one second, when's the better face time for Phoenix? High noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better?

But they always say, we're still working on it. If you send me another 50 grand, we'll

still be working on it. Yeah, you're going to work on it for eternity until my bags ride dry. So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now or you are? It's still an issue. Apparently I get to see him once every weekend. But I'm fully booked with these comocons every weekend to pay these legal fees. It's working out, though. Unfortunately, just to speak on this subject, I push him. I come from a divorce family. I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now,

but it'll work out and Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad. Dad's famous. So dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. It's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time right now. It's monitored. So that's been a little hard on him.

But you know, you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball. You know, it's kind of crazy.

But I told him just to do his part. They're going to be just fine. It almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by. Like, hey, do you know what? Can Bamps Chief Phoenix now because it's been 10 years and he's been sober as a judge. Well, he'll probably just relapse. I know him. You know, there's nothing I could do to wait on this matter. And unfortunately, he's been so up and down that

β€œthere. I don't think that they believe this. I think there's a fly-by girlfriend. Yeah, I'm right.”

Some people think I'm here for the fame. I'm famous in my own way. I don't need it. You know, it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up. Yeah. You know, if I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster, I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground, and I see kids play, it's like, that's all I want to do. But I have to have a fucking supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on just it's like, I've been living at

the Black Rifle Coffee compound with a little eight-year-old and a 10-year-old. How come I get to live there and play with them all day? But when it comes to my own kid, I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a fucking microphone and people filming me. But I did. But what am I going to do wrong? But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in Georgia has like, and he won 51% and my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support. So they have a good

connection and he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids whether your famous and have money or broken up nothing and they're fighting for no reason. When it should just be about the child. So I support him 100% and he knows that. I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him. What friends he has? What do you even likes? What

cartoons he likes? Don't know anymore. Because everything has to go through the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass. It's Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship

β€œwith you so that you guys can't can. I think when a girl is scorned, then all they see is fire”

in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's going to burn your fucking house down. There's nothing you can do to save it. It's hard and the kids young so just I think right now. Me personally, I just like I said, I come from a divorced family and it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her. It's about me. It's about April and Phil. It's about those two and you know the relationship. Everybody on her and they're here in her one-sided story. She's probably going around saying

"Bamless behind dry and he gives me only $400 a month." Yeah, I was giving you five until the judge said you're only getting four and I gave it all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. You know, the lawyers take it away from scratch and I love it that way. So now if we want to get

out as we pick out our own furniture, we do it. I like starting from, I've never been more happy in my

life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot meeting new people coming up with new deals, new, whatever, it's great. Sounds like data boss bed in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog. I wake up and I feel like shit from drinking but if I have a drink, I'm going to feel pretty good and I have another one I'm going to feel even better if I'm a third one I'll feel real real. Next thing you know, you wake up off long and feel like shit, but if I have a beer, yeah, it's a

cycle. Why didn't you call it hair of the dog? I've never understood that. But what, the dog here doesn't bite. Yeah, I like the dog here. I've never understood that it's a meal there, but I use the method

Often in the past.

driving you and that's exciting to you because even though you have done everything that you've done, it almost seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it. Exactly. Like, amen. I mean, I stopped made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth

sold over a million copies without even putting an ad on anything. Just mom and pop skate shop for

β€œselling it and everybody said you need to see this video. So then I did another one and then that's”

when Jackass found me. I was the first person ever right for Nike. And when element put out my skateboardes, they also put out bam, wallets, bam, sunglasses, bam, everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this bam stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff. So I was clocking mega bank and every wish that I had any gold that I set would come true quicker than my deadline date. And I fucking ran out of goals. I feel like

you made Jackass though because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew you were before Jackass. Everybody knows that all the things really say that. Like people who really grew up with you because you raised some of us, you know, like we grew up with you. And you were like, you were pretty much like one of the first real content creators. If you think about it, like really influence or whatever. That's what they want to follow.

Living in Pennsylvania. And that's the hotest. That's when shaman and oxville, they would be in Los Angeles, making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jack ass cock created and talking about Big Brother the whole time. And that's a very tailland probably about 5% oh yeah. And then bam was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You fucking barely sold 20,000 copies of Big Brother's video called poop and tit and fucking

crap. I don't even know what I've never even heard of that. Yeah, I know exactly. I know this

CKY has never heard of that. I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy and I deleted anybody that's giving me a problem. But I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff, it means too much of a fucking pussy. Knoxville, getting to a ring with me, take off your box and clubs 1, 2, 3, you're fucking done for. So you're still really angry with the Knoxville. You can put me through hell, maybe pay all this fucking treatment money. And they're filming

behind my back while I'm in treatment. So they already set me up to fucking fail. And then as soon as I do, the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid 100 grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up and then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out.

β€œAnd I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa and they”

had a $15 million budget and he tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either going to have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a jackass 5. Well, if Bams not in it, then that's already $6 million that we don't have to pay back. So we can already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on TMZ. Yeah,

one jackass 2. I got a high five for fucking good press when I got a felony charge. I haven't brands and not goes at the LAX airport. Drunk his hell. That's all what they need from you at the time. Yeah, now I'm a liability. Fuck you guys. I'm just going to say on that note since we skipped right forward to that, you know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages. I'm going to let them all know right now to stop texting him. Yeah, and if not,

double dog knocks, feel to do any stun. Oh, I'm so brave. I have to do a white triple dog dare. You step into a fucking ring with me. You're done for. You're over. When you say your DMs and stuff like that, who's DMing you and calling? Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, no back reached out, but I don't even know who he is. Right. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship, and no one will get involved in that

either. You know, the brand name was around during the CKY days, too. I didn't think it was. And you know, I've helped them with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued them over a dozen fucking overdoses at the hospital. I've paid for all of his mistakes. And I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good, but like he stole my S55 mistakes, 125,000 dollar car when I was in Germany, high on pills to go get more pills, wrecked into the Dean's car, West Chester,

fleed the scene. They tried to charge me over until I proved I was in Germany. But he says,

you're always going to take a tune of booing for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a

fucking car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your range over, you owe me a car. But even just recently, like, I went, because I go through his phone. So anybody who's texting wax, I read everything because I'm out too. And if I need to change

β€œthe number, I will. Because there's nobody allowed, but our little small circle, right?”

Yeah, probably what's keeping him safe. Yeah, I can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message, it like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. Yeah, I'm like, I love Mike, but I'm like, Mike, you see, it wasn't the one texting, but, you know,

Steve was asking him to like punch him.

he's doing great. Like, you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing,

β€œand instead of doing something that would benefit you. And that's why I just put my phone down.”

I like to just focus right now. We spent all day, every day. Like, we are such a fucking powerhouse team that she takes better photos than both of the people on fries or anything. I picture, I tell her we're in the angle, is we get the job. She stretches me before and we just have like a perfect day that I don't need any fucking phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And, you know, everybody asks me, like, if they do do do do do they juggers, would you want to be

hell? No, it is done. Termin has ruined the legacy. It was supposed to be a fucking tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these fucking new hi-hats in there. And, and too many balls. Like, why are we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing. And all he does is simply hang the camera and say, get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark. He could have died. And the movie

made $150 million in the box office. And apparently he got like less than 40 grand. You can't even

buy a fucking dots and when they use tire on what that kind of one. Meanwhile. Yeah, you had it or a hum die. But, you had to sign a contract on jackass for everybody could get fucked with any given moment except for true mean because he's a director. Now because he's a fucking policy. So, circle him back to Steve. I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast. And I told him that you were coming on and he said, um,

β€œthat he is a chem-- I'd have to look at the text message. But in so much, I think he said around the”

like he's hurt, he's reached out to you and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response. I would let him respond right now so he could be mad at me. But that's okay. Yeah. Maybe when I get, to know a little bit more of the situation right now, my focus is his mental health and my relationship. Like, I've only been with this person for eight months and it went public kind of immediately which I can handle. But, you know, right now, they don't know him anymore right now. The person

is on a whole new chapter, this not about counting days, it's not about how, you know, it's about his change, he's turned a page. And if those friendships are alive, then that's great. But right now, I love Steve. When the time is right, we'll talk and everything's cool, but I mean, like, I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to do open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was

success. I didn't drink like how he asked. And then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf trust fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs. It doesn't matter. I did the work fucking pay me. And it's, it's not like I need your money. I fucking couple bank accounts. I could just go right to the store get some. But like, you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf trust fund and he gets it when

he's 18. It's fucked. Fuck that. It sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and hired of people making fucking decisions for you. Making decisions for me and I can't even trust, you know, it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their fucking real agenda is. Yeah,

that's tough. Yeah. That's heavy to not be able to trust anybody like that. Yeah. I always say

friendships are meant to be like they will. Yeah. I mean, if no, I mean, if no, it's a really long time. I always thought it was bubble of friends that right now is. You know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not going to let anybody fucking dent it anymore. Right. And Viva LeBam, I let in so many friends that as bubble just burst it. Yeah. And when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones.

There was a point where my manager Terry Hardy was so great. He would get me fucking commercials to do right card for a million dollars of one day a work. Yeah. And now I'm pointing off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to fucking answer it now, which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like shit. Yeah. He had this movie. I got too many for me to go. I was too hungry to make the flight. And because

β€œof that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what, enough is enough. I can't. I just”

had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood. And you were just too young over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done. I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunity is because you didn't know. Like you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another fucking deal. I'll get another one,

you know. And to have $300,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks. That's unheard of. They would never

get somebody a budget like that. Now that's unheard of. Our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And most people think, this guy crazy I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue and then why have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside of fucking moat with a draw bridge. And then I'll keep racking Don Vito, my uncle's car until he gets fed up and drive mine. All right, he done Vito. Boom, Don deal. Now we

Say his elephants.

bit. You guys were like best friends. Yeah. Take me on that journey with you guys. Well, we met in Oz in ninth grade. He was in 11th at East High School in Westchester, Pennsylvania. He just moved from Cleveland, Ohio. And he was just such a character. He was, he didn't know how to skateboard. And he knew that I was making the CKY video, and he became a part of the crew, just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on. You

know, he's big. So what does everybody put that on? To get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off in that three story building into this purpose. Just give me a shot of crown for all, let's get

it done it over with. So he would be like, we call it random hero because he would always save the

day. And we did everything together. Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there. If I started traveling off, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a car accident, it was very devastating because I never had anybody die that I was close to. And I never knew

β€œwhat it felt like. It was always like, hey, do you hear anodry from Pittsburgh die to my who?”

Yeah. Thanksgiving dinner with her five thanks. You all right, whatever. Are you going to go through? If we don't, I guess if I have to. I don't know. So anybody that died until then, I never knew I didn't. You never knew. I know. But then when that hit so hard to the point where I remember we were an outside of Phoenix Arizona. I was doing a appearance to next day. And we were in the woods having a campfire. You can see all the stars. I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't

be happier. Then all of a sudden, I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at 12, 28 in Pennsylvania. And I smashed the window at fucking 9, 28 in Phoenix. So it's like, we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what to. I found out the next morning. It was like he was like a

soulmate. Like he wanted you to know. Yeah, soulmate, soulmates can be your friends, too.

He's not always a romantic uncle. And my mom would always tell him, like, you get these fucking

fast cars with these fast and you're going to get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck.

β€œAnd that's how it happened. He wrecked, he flipped me in a car eight times in the oncoming traffic”

when I was 16 years old in in school. He was doing a radio. He was a solid radio. He's like, cup in the car. I got this jet of words. I think he's happy. And I've been jet-offed down a little so we're flying 110 miles. So somebody called us off. We slid for so long. Like a football field, as soon as we hit the grass in the median, we started flipping in the oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last flip. He was 40 feet in like a motel. I can see his feet sticking out.

And when I saw him, he was like a helicopter had to come and get him out. I had a big softball in my head from back in the window out on the first flip. But I got to thank Chris Rab because he was sitting next to me and he put my seatbelt on and I ejected. I said, I'm not a pussy and then he put it on again and then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on. Oh my gosh. Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling? Hell yeah because I was so lost that I didn't

know what to do. It's like, well now we can't make a sticky-wide video if we do another jagged won't be the same. Yeah. And instead of like drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget.

And it became a real fucking problem when I didn't even know it. I was always that guide to go,

you know, 90 days and be like, you know, we're going to Ruth Chris take out tonight. I could have one wine for dinner. Yeah, it might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm going to have to. The next day it's going to be two bottles and then I'm out looking for drugs. It always happens that way and getting your phone so it was over a big dozen of tries to make a life that. Oh my gosh. We should yeah. So jump him back in. Do you think BAM, you know, all the trauma that you've

been through? Have you had it? I know you've been to all the did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any like trauma therapy? Yeah, I mean, they put me through everything. Like a part of the jackass thing. I had to blow into a soberling four times a day. I had to pay for $800 a therapy twice a

β€œweek, neurofeedback, same thing. Yeah, and but I think you are forced. I think if you did it like on”

your own therapy of your insurance. When I, because I was on that man hunt, it was not here. There's three helicopters in the sky. Eight police officers circling around trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional at hopping bar wire fences. I was scared. Shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one became a pro and then I drank the brandy wine river because I was dying at first. I

Slept in a box in a fucking house and I thought was a band and until they pul...

they were so terrified. They come up to unlock the door and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden I just chump out like a bat out there and I just go, I'm sorry. It doesn't keep running around. I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I have fairness. I'd be taking you to a Albanian restaurant and then they took me from there.

Finally, I made it to the Jersey Shore at a buddy's house and I was telling random people

just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out like we found out Bams in North Carolina on a high pre-speed chase, all narrowied up because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour. I'm like, that was alive and I told him my mom just to see how far it would go. Oh my gosh. I'm in Jersey asshole. There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here and

I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without, with it being on your terms like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt, you know,

β€œlike there's so much turmoil inside and that's why you drink, that's why you do the drugs you do”

is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have. And with the relationship it's all about trust. If you don't have trust you got nothing. Right. Absolutely. That's 100% right and now you've got Danny. Yeah, how are you? We know there's no filter here. It works for sure. So how many days sober are you now? Since August 1st. Okay, so that's that's actually a good while. Is that the longest you've been sober? Well minus the Florida shuffle because I was forced to be right on your own.

This is you. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. Love it. What do you guys' plans to just keep this going and

like, what do you guys do differently now than any other time? I know this. All I needed all along was a structured schedule that's fun because I had no nine to five job. I had no boss ever tell me what to do. And you know, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know that I'm a girl. I'm in bed. Yeah, it's extra last kind of like nine to thirty. Thirty. I woke up this morning. I was like,

β€œI missed something. We were in bed. You know, he was already asleep. And that's why I love having”

the dogs because we wake up. I walked the dogs. We take care of it. If I, if I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walked the dogs. She stretches me. We go to the gym. Then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done. We get something eaten. Then I either paint a read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a

whole fun structured schedule. And Steve, I would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober,

you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things to happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn their alcohols, ban and it's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to an or a freebie. Nothing fun is happening at all. I can imagine. Could you our personalities? I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill. No. No. Freakin' music or my own or you or a text. They

want you to go crazy. And I got to say this. I mean, it's like a setup for disaster. How could you have the fucking FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rabbly at the Lima, my guardian? She died under her care and she changed the autopsy. It's saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her. And it's online. So these things that are being said, she's telling me

you're trying to go crazy. I read a secret. I read a secret. I read a secret. But it's all on the internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies. People aren't still in her care, are they? Well, I don't know. They're better not be. People are backing up. She made me talk about this need of fucking helmet that she made. Listen to this. And I put on this helmet and she forced me to say how need it is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little

fucking kitten drink in milk. And then the other eye, you see a toronosaurus wrecks is coming at you. It fools me trying to eat you. It's just like, what child do you pick? I picked a kitty cat. You're on the right path. No shit 'em on the right fucking path. Why would I pick? The left eye, which is a T-Rex coming at me to eat me. So they're basically using like psychedelic, you know, things to kind of trick your brain. Right. And, you know, if I

β€œwent down the rabbit hole of B. J. Investigates, and that's how I, when he was sleeping and”

resting, I wanted to know. And Pamela and B. J. are friends and they showed me things that I started to understand the system even working in the shuffle. I was familiar with it. Right. And then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So there's a word for it. And it's a very scary. All B. J. Investigates wanted to do was free BAM. She started the free BAM movement. So I was a pretty good break that. Then you're against me.

B.

she's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently. Casey, case some back in the day like she's someone

β€œwho is speaking for those to get her on the podcast. I would definitely connect you to. Let's not”

forget. This isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone who and well, you're, you know, great. I don't care. But I mean, you know, when I like sitting in a room in your mom thinks you're okay and you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar. Yeah. And money hungry. And you went through this with our daughter. We had to put her in a treatment. This is our last year in September. And I researched everything because I was so scared

of something like what happened to you happening to her. So it's scary. I mean, yes, they don't help us. Yes, fucking night. And we definitely don't want to bash the good ones. I want to roll mental health and pass it in the California. And I was just talking to the other people. I'm like,

so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for a 48 hour hold. And then they found out that

I insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been here for fucking 150 days. And I can't even get on the phone. And I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found, I was only on a 48 hour hold. And then they found out I insurance and I had nowhere to go. I've been here for 150 fucking days. I'm like, this is fucked up. And then if you go and say, you kind of need help. Like, we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him. But he was going through kind of the

same thing that Bam's going through with custody. And he said he just had a couple bad days. And he went to 51 or he went and they 51 50 to him. And he had it checked out. He was like, I don't belong here. Like, I just am having some personal issues in asking for help. They put him in with, you know, the people that really need help. So it's like, you're having a bad day. You can't really get the help. And then once you do, you're labeled you're in the system. And they want your money.

If you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash cans saying, why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to fucking French kids their own sneaker, you're going to start doing that shit too over time. You can't be doing that. You can't be doing that. You can't be doing that. You can't be doing it. Why? Because everybody else has to make out it.

Oh my god. Bam, just hearing the stuff is just fucking wild. Like, it is crazy. This is, I hurt my heart for you, honestly. Yes. And there's been like such a deal to do. It's just to just shut your fucking cock sucker because the more you talk, the more they can hold against you by one body and a fake copy for the mental institution. Bam, you don't understand. I don't belong here. You got to get me out of here. And I hear, come, come, come, come, come.

I'm like, are you banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah, I'm like, you just bought yourself another month. You idiot don't do that. Then you're definitely doing that. You hot air buffoon. You just bought your, yeah, banging your head against the wall. That's a real good idea.

β€œHe's actually really good in the gym too. That's what it is. It doesn't give any self benefits”

for. Let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now? That's different. Like, you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year because I too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing, your hamstring. I was fucking doing a TikTok thing. I fucking was joking around and doing this fucking stupid dance, not like a genuine TikTok dance, but I was like, making fun of something and snapped my fucking, uh, a keely, that is so painful. Bro, it's still

fucked up and that was on the brain. Yeah. And I fucking was like, fuck, that I got to start stretching. Oh yeah. And I guess what I've been doing is stretching and it's phenomenal. Yeah. I thought that there was, there was no hope for me. Like, I was even, I was putting tax in my, in my calf muscles. Like, there was a bunch of cash. My friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting tax in my, why? I'm like, to relieve the pain. Oh my gosh. So like, that's how

stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real. It was that painful. And, uh, one yoga guy was like, just reached out and touched your toes. See if you can do that. I don't doubt I can. And I went in my hamstring popped right here. I was out for a year from that. I even, when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half plate with my friend Jeff Rasp. And I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot

ramp and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Try the easiest trick on the planet looped out because some little shit ass wax to coping like a fucking eskimo. And I hyper extended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the 16th time. And my arm still won't go straight from it. Oh, my gosh. We'll straighten that shit out too. So stretching, working out, being on a regimen dog dog. Yes, such a good relationship with them. That's like another

thing, um, not to backtrack. But did you never have animals before? I've always had cats because

I got to get out. Yeah, but, but anytime I would have a dog, I, I, I leave too much. I travel too much. So a friend would watch them. And when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy you come back and they're like, I can't give this back to you. Oh, I get it. Yeah,

β€œgot to be, you know, bam, I think a lot of his friends will say like, you know, bringing up how he”

has been in this world for so long that he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say,

Gosh, I just can't leave.

the dogs. Like, what do you mean letting him? Like, number one, I get a few free moment to hang out and watch maybe trash TV for a second. And then, you know, I'm thinking and learning that people have

never left let him be like alone. Like, let him be in the woods. And I've, they've kind of created

anxiety for me, which who wants that. I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like, who wants that relationship? So if Ben's going to fuck up, he's going to fuck up. He knows what he's going to lose if he fucks up. And so it's like he's finding peace, though. Oh, I don't know if he ever had peace during time. And I just like saying, let him just go do his thing. Harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious day, harmony is what I needed.

And man, just spending time like alone with the dogs and he takes him for hikes, like things that, you know, it 40 degree weather, Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So yeah, I'm not hiking at 5 a.m. with them. I don't know too. So, but he doesn't does that. And it gives him time to bond with the dogs and it gets him, you know, they have their own good relationship, which I love. I'm starting to think so. You know what, maybe the interventionist really thought that I was

against a friend because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like, I was telling somebody, yes, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong-il likes sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around. But he let me park it at the airport and then Iggy Pop played my wedding in Billy. I don't cut the roof off in the Lamborghini. He's like, this guy is fucking magic crazy, but if you look it up on YouTube, you're going to find this. You've lived 20

lines. He's really hot. I mean, the people that he knows are insane. I feel like you guys talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong-il, but nobody goes to North Korea and he probably don't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you, it's all true. I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day. You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny and you're actually just being able to be bam.

β€œAnd I think you're finding who you are now. And I have a strict diet. The only thing I hate”

you is pushing me. Well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And I mean, I don't blame you. So you like Flame and Yon over here, you know? Flame lobster. Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that? I'm sure Danny, why don't you

punch my leg? He's actually able to help you. Good now that all I want to do is eat right and I really don't. I never thought

that day would come to where I would stop because it's always free if you're at a nightclub. You wouldn't do a little bit from store, you know? And then, you know, you get really addicted to it. That means day to time. I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope, looking for crumbs. You know what? I'm like, I'm never going to stop. It's just a matter of time I'm going to do it again. Now, don't feel that way. You can put it right in front of me. I'll

flush it down the toilet. Don't want any money. But, you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online, too. Like, where can we be your fucking barebuff? Number one, mind your business, fuck who I want. And number two, like, I wasn't going to lead him as a person.

β€œLike, I'm a good person, a people person. And I, you know, the people that I believe were connected”

to when you have a connection. It was, whether we were going to last sexually or not, or what booty collar not, I still wanted to be a friend. And like, when he, especially in Hollywood, like, it's so hard to find normal people in this world as it is. But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania, and we had the two days together with people, no, no, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset. And the attorney said, you know,

you guys have to have him in by Sunday. And this was Friday. So we had a couple of two really good days. And I remember saying, like, he just said, just don't leave me here, because they're going to shuffle me. Like the judge. The new that he stayed in the system, we weren't going to be able to see each other. With the little tip of my brother when we went to court, we flew in from California. My badly was there parked at the LAX airport, because we thought we were coming right back.

We put the dogs up. And, and he's like, you're sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania for three months. Like, when I hear that, I'm like, but you're on, or we live in California. My cars in the airport. But our dogs are there, and my brother lives at my house. So he's like, eight, my problem. Yes, my problem is a fucking big one. So now the judge base, I can't even go home. I didn't go get your car. I was like, what do you want to do? Float around of motel sixes

β€œaround fucking Pennsylvania all day for, why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania?”

All my stuff. I moved to California. Well, tough shit. Like, yeah, very tough.

So that's when you know you like somebody because basically I had a fly back to LA by myself.

I had a lot to think about. And then I went to my best friend Heather's house and Holly would in the bay, and I'm like, and his good friend Dre, you know, a few good people, I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days. And he said, if you don't come give him the eighth day, they're going to keep me here. So basically, everyone gathered, it got his, I got his Bentley. They checked the oil. They made sure it was

Fine.

And he and me and enough to get across. That's if I can, doesn't need to. Yeah, to be five

β€œdays to get there. Really like, made me appreciate everything. We'll be on a road trip. And I'll”

just like pull over on the side of the road. She would, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment. Yeah. Like, you got to understand. I was different than we did. I was locked away. Like, you know, the outside I got to see was a fucking barbed wire fence to secure it brutal. God, it's like prison. And such a day, because the beach is literally right there, but it doesn't feel helpful. That's terrible. Yeah, they make it seem nice on the brochure.

It's right by the beach and tell Ray. Yeah. But I'm locked up and the beach is right there. And you won't even let me go to it. That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now. We are. Is there going to be a wedding? Yeah. Yes, but we wanted to count. I want to be the flower girl.

Okay, perfect. I don't have one. And J gets to be the ring bear. No, we don't want to take it from

Phoenix. We really want, you know, like yellow wolf or Tokyo, tell or something to play during it. And that's not an easy thing because you need lighting in the stage. And all

β€œthat's not something that's going to happen. We're going to plan this really well. Yeah, it happened,”

you know, it was just a fun day. And then I forget what people zoom in on us now. Yeah, I wasn't going to take the ring off. Even though it was like a cute little antique. He made me pick his hand. He's like pick a hand. Yeah, tell me how it happened. Yeah, it was really cute. So there was this house in Pennsylvania, Miss Pamela and Mrs. Pamela and Duff that they have that has a water fall. And a lot of potential to come up. The Duff family Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tonyawks

company Birdhouse and me and him or friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in

Pennsylvania. And I can't even go home. He said come stay with it because they own Duff electric. They have a bunch of

stuff. And you couldn't stay in your own house. So they took us in and they had this really nice house that they wanted to that they just owned, but it needs a lot of work. And it's right on the Delaware River and it's cool town called New Hope, which is like this cool. But you're going to leave out of fun detail and the girls need a detail. Yeah, we need the early details. A detail. I'm a butterfly mom. My raised butterfly has been doing it for like nine years. I want to be a B mom one day too.

So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project. Right. And I see in the front I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden. You know, and I'm like looking around because it used to be a restaurant. So there's a lot of potential that could be a little crazy. So as we're like driving, which I thought when we were in the polka nose, I was in the worst outfit. This

purple jumpsuit would be me. And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel and I'm like, not this outfit. Now I was thinking like, I hope these aren't being like romantic and like this heart, you know what it means? Like our shape. I'm like, okay, not looking too good. Long story short. It was that night that we left that place. Nothing happened. So I was like, oh, cool. It was like, that was fun. So we're like driving driving driving and he literally goes,

oh, my gosh, do you know, and it was pitch black. It was like 10 o'clock at night. He's like, well, we were just having such a good relationship with all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over in the butterfly. I had these rings in my hand once once I kissed her at the, at the, at the duck property. I threw the rings near the waterfall. They're still sitting in there. So I mean, we haven't been back long enough

to go find them again. Okay. So he proposed to you with a ring. Pick one and then through them. Yeah. And such a band moving. But I'm like, okay, and then he, like, sat at the against a little wall and he's like, we married me. And I'm like, are you fucking around? Like, are you kidding or whatever? Cause we were like, send that little butterfly garden and it was just like super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I thought I was like,

well, duh. Yeah. Like, if you're being serious, you know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. Then, of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in and they started asking questions. I'm like, oh, yeah. I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her,

β€œyes, and then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like,”

can I talk about it? Yeah. I told him I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking about it. The rumors show. Yeah. So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her. And here we are. It's been crazy. So what is 2024? Have for Bam and Danny, what do you guys have planned? I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and we're booked to like October, which is exciting. I'm dying and save the world. We skate, we say, well, I'm the big animal world or what we kind of

it tore. So like, you know, so I'm like, you know, we were New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm an all glam. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Glam's gone. Like holding the pit bull. He was all broken. Everybody walking pants the dog is just starting to prove starving to death. They're just like, look, they didn't want anything to do with it. And

She gets out.

I just take the dog out. And we're going to get it with the skate park under a bridge. They're

β€œprobably like, who is this chick that you know, all the people are like, we're not going to say this dog with”

please all. Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community people don't understand how rad they are. Yeah. So these two like rad chicks come over. They're scared. They do need help. These skater chicks. And I said, well, I just called the SPCA and she happened to have a 561 number Westpog. Me. I just think of her. So she scooped them right up. Took them out of hell. And it's just, it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And you know,

the skate parks will be go to unfortunately aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas.

So you see a lot. And you always find weed there. Well, true. But you know, you see like the

cats and the dogs and it's it's sad because to bring up the world we live and everyone wants to play pickle ball in tennis and basketball and the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six year old after five five o'clock. So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to those world needs to change. And we'll be sitting there of playing a shit. I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phone. Hold on. I'm saving a goat from

fucking eye on her. Give me that. You really aren't doing that. Yeah, we have like a phone thing, but I'm like hold on. I have to pledge on that I want to get real quick. That is hilarious. It's true. I'm like most of the time on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with Peter. No. What do you do? I'm calling 911. Why? Peddle him with dust. Because this guy got arrested for trying to save ducks. He had to trespass to hard. Yeah, we're talking with that weed. You're

doing some weed. And so we risked or you're going to see hopefully the today show here soon. They're ready. I love that. I want to tell you guys when Jan, I first got together, we immediately went out on tour and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. Yeah. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time, like working together, that's when you really figure out what you

guys are about. And you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly. Totally. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know. We show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con and we're only there for two days. She'll be like, I know you guys got to see him and I'm sorry, but we're having a fucking date night tonight because you know I'm like,

cool, you know, I never had the courage to say that. I'm like, it's 8 p.m. It's only couple home to date night.

Yeah. I'm like, it's 8 p.m. We're done. He's like, oh, another out, nope. And then by 10

β€œdate lines on, I need Keith Morris that I think he needs you because nobody has ever really been able”

to not tell you you know or like, I don't even know if the word I think it's you guys run wild together. So you just have our structured wild. I'm a structured wild. Yeah. It's 10 o'clock. It was like, you have 10 million fall. I'm also. I'm like, I'm positive. You've taken the Apollo. You've got me in bed by 10. I'm very, you've, you've taken the Apollo. And then you really just go to sleep, but you don't have sleeping problems or anything. You've gone, I was always on so much

treasured and spherical. I thought I needed that to sleep, but at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and, you know, having such a fun productive day that I sleep on time. Are you 100% sober? Yeah, raw dog in mind. Just a couple puffs of weed. Yeah. Yeah, that's sober to me. Yeah. That's sober to me. And he has a medical card people relax. Yeah, I don't think we, there's no, you know, there's everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely

stream water and skateboarding is my message. It's just a little bad game of day. They're like, when you're not 100% sober, I'm like, you really think she'll like, he's fine. There's California sober and they're straight edge. I'm straight edge of my husband's California sober, he'll drink and he smokes weed all day. You know, so some people have to have a vice. You know, I would love to have a vice, but my anxiety the way it's set up I can't. So it's like, I have to

β€œforce me. I think weed for me is something that just levels my brain out. So that's why I've never”

going to call up a giant of a giant again. It's strictly pussy. Yeah, that's not on. That's that. That was the word of the month when we first started dating. I was surprised. I was like, can we not say that for PM? It's like, it's reposing me on the menu. I'm like, oh my god. You're just going to go to the bathroom. Oh my god. Shock value. That's what I'm in. You got to handle it. I think you guys are fucking adorable. And I love seeing him so happy. Like, that really makes me happy to see him.

I'm just learning. Yeah, learning like the fact you guys in the fans that have loved him so much or teaching me like where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when I'm, you know, the best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so most of the time they've been really nice to me. Yeah. I know it's just the trolls. His fans that are in line are very

sweet to me. They're not close. They're not coming up. Trying to spit in my face or whatever. But, you know, they're teaching me so much about him. And I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery or they're just so proud of you to be back

on this skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him

Back on this skateboard.

skateboarder he was. You have to watch all the CKY's. You have to make her watch number one day.

β€œYeah, you have to watch them because then you'll really. I think he's the last one. He saw”

she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn, when I look at the bar in Westchester and he saw that one. He's like, all drugs like if we're in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that water, waterfall, I'm like, but you didn't last time because you was down. Yeah, but we're there tomorrow. We're going to sign this right here next day, wakes up and I'm like, you signed the gotcha. That was crazy. It took us to Iceland. I think it's so big. So we get there. We didn't even

scope anything out. I found a random man's barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up. Push them off. You can look at my accent. She said, I'm like, you did that to Ryan. I'm like, you pushed him in. What if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that. Yeah. What's your relationship with Billy Ballow now? It's good. We saw him on the last tour in Bethland, Pennsylvania. We went up with Jimmy Poff in the Bloodhound gang, and it was rad catching up with him,

but on the quiet quiet quiet. You know, the last time, the first time he went to treatment,

we're at the Chattoe Marmont. And we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal. And he was drinking a lot. And he knew I had a prescription to add her all. And he kept asking me for one. And I'm like, dude, I've given you and he's like, I'm like, you know what? She's because it's you, I'm not going to say no. So he like started hyper ventilating, and an ambulance came.

β€œAnd that was the first time he went to treatment. And I think Warner Brothers found out that”

I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for. Which kind of sucks because, you know, I didn't drink at all. I didn't drink till I was well 23 years old and all that. And when I was hanging out with him and Helsinki Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the mini bar, cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day. I thought people only do that at night time. That's crazy.

Well, one, he's like, I'm like, I'm not going to let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to like day drinking, then tables turned to where I'm the fucking bed. When did you start using drugs? Probably about. Tell the truth. I'd say 24 or 25. I know. I thought it was so young. We were in Davos, Switzerland doing things called the winner jam for MTV. Some 41 was playing and this bank called Guano-Apes and Jackass was there to host all the thing. And I remember

we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table and that was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage book right after that. I'm like, "Oh, God. I've got a massage. All right. If everybody else is doing it, I'll do it." And I did it. It was good to have a massage like, "Oh, my God. I can't even fucking do it. I can't even relax." God, I could have imagined my first, so I could bump a coke and I'm getting a massage.

β€œYeah. I would go crazy. There's no way. But never, that's why.”

Terrified of a needle, never messed with heroin or anything.

I was surprised. What's the hardest drugs you've done? Probably just method coke. Anything upper, you know, like... I don't know why people would do heroin or valium and shove to a bar and fall asleep into their beer, it makes no sense. Yeah. I used to be one of those. I love the Zandex. The dosphenoline. Zanx was my shit. I was an upper hand in a coal. I used to call myself Zandex.

Like, I would only take that if it was on like an airplane. But man, you have one beer on a Zanx. You're fucking lads. Oh, lit. Just lit. It's a party. There's the closet problem. I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast. And I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us too.

Because my husband loves you, and I really love you. So, yeah. Artificial Jen and Jessie. Yeah. We need to us three can be on the bus. And you guys can get your own bus. Are you guys going to come see us on tour?

We are. Okay, Antonio. Yeah. Yeah, come to a show. We always have so much fun.

And I have the girls have their own bus. The boys have their own bus. And I know all the band would love to see you guys. And I'll still Melissa, I want to let them know. Melissa Quinn, Michael Quinn. They love you. So, the boys will be together. They will steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her. I love that. Saying that you and I would get along great. That was literally two days later. I had your phone number.

I'm like, this is crazy. I love that. They'll be with the happy that we were able to work this out. Well, hopefully Jenna can come, but yeah, Melissa and Michael will go. Right. Me and her down here. Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming. What? You got you want to shout out your social. So, everybody. And it's sure everybody knows where to find you. Oh, they know hey, Dan, we're official. They are kept in free.

They're staying or kept in crime, right? I'm good. I don't know. Just save a dog. Just Google Bam Marjera. You guys will find everything. I think maybe the fans are realizing. Like, they wanted to see me every now and then, but I'm just going to blast them with shelter dogs.

So, please the dog.

I was like, I love this car. I go through my moments where I'm like, "Shamp, shamp, shamp."

β€œA lot of my calm down. Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs everything.”

I give a plug to curiosity doughnuts from the fucking Doyle's town. They're also.

Yeah, I love that. They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.

β€œOh my god, we'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this”

and do a whole take off on it. So that we all go. No.

Black Raven Coffee, rock roll.

β€œThank you guys so much for coming. You're stuck with us.”

I appreciate you. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode. Up done, blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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