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her literally, the breakout, I think you're one of the breakout stars from Calabassas confidential. We're going to see you think? I think so. It's swayed versus in the house, baby.

It's high guys. I'm so honored to be here. I'm so, you're so beautiful and I love, I just found out that you're an Aquarius. I am indeed, February 8th, the Matriple Aquarius. Triple down.

Triple down. What is it? What is it? What's my rising? I don't really know much about that.

“But I know that every single thing is Aquarius and my life is amazing.”

I love that. That's kind of why you're so like, Erie and like, just like, I thought we were absolutely like, you know, I feel like when I meet aqua other Aquarius's, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm an Aquarius. Oh, she's really recognized for you, girl.

I'm on the, I'm on the very beginning though, so I have a lot of that Capricorn poll. What is your birthday? January 22nd. Okay, I'm the 8th of February. Yeah, we're right.

We're right around the query.

I always feel like February Aquarius is there so much softer.

I feel like I'm very aggressive and rough and like, well, that's agreed. I think with Aquarius as you either have that like super alpha female and it's hard touching into that like softer, at least for me it's, it's hard. Now you're so feminine. You think?

Yeah, try my best. No, you're so feminine. Oh, I don't get masculine energy from you at all. Yeah, I feel like there's a type in a place. Yeah.

When it's like me and my older sister, yeah, I'll definitely be like the, the big dog. Yeah. Other than that, I try to like, you know, beat them your, I know, be cute, see, try my best. I love it.

“I, I think you handled yourself on the show, which we'll talk about it later, but I think”

you handled yourself on the show pretty well. I know the internet has different of opinions, which we'll get into, but I can't wait to get into it. I feel like you're the perfect person to talk to this about. Yeah.

And I think, I didn't gym a just interview with Vial files or something like that. She did indeed. Yeah. Has that dropped yet? It did drop.

Did it drop? Oh, my God. I dropped anything about it. Yeah. She said some honestly awful things about me in that podcast.

I was very upset with the way that it was handled. I'm honestly very upset with production, Netflix. I was pitched to show that was completely different than the way that it turned out. So that's usually how it happens. Yeah.

I feel like, especially with, don't take this wrong way, but with a younger crowd. I feel like they manipulate you guys a lot, and they get bits and pieces of what they want. And they'll pitch it to you one way, but then how it comes out to the masses is a completely other way. Absolutely. I think the way that they edited me in it specifically.

I mean, I didn't know any of the cast members, and I wasn't friends with any of them. Okay. So they're all a lot younger than me, and they're all from Calvasses, like I said, I'm from Vegas. Yeah.

So I got pitched the deal from a mutual friend, and they were like, hey, we just need

And obviously, I'm here to do my job, and I take my work very seriously.

“So yeah, something that was super excited about, and the filming process was amazing.”

I mean, it was definitely scripted for me, at least, because like I said, I didn't grow up with these kids. I don't know them, and I just, you know, turn my personality on when I needed to. Yeah. So, okay.

Well, let's dive into it. I was gonna wait until later to talk about it. No, I don't know. I don't know when you really. Troma done queen.

No, please. Don't bother you. Why? Okay. So what made you say yes, though, to like reality TV after, you know, controlling your image

online, because you've been influencing since you were like 12. I haven't did. Yeah. Just wild. I've been on the internet.

Yeah, since I was 12 years old, I started making videos because I was like severely bullied throughout middle school, and I just hit this, like, really gnarly depression, and like six or seventh grade, and I would watch these girls on YouTube, put on makeup. And I just fell in love with it. There was just like a whole beauty and fashion side to YouTube that I just like was in

love, and I was like, if I'm learning all these tricks, why not, you know, do it myself. And like I said, I was severely bullied throughout middle school.

I went through like a really tough time, and I've always been able to control my own narrative

of the internet. Yes, and that's so great about what we do is because we're able to get on the internet and say how we feel. And so I said yes, because it was something new, and it was something exciting, and I don't consume reality television.

And I've never watched really any of the housewives or anything along those lines. But when they did pitch it to me, it came off as the super fun lighthearted show with kids that were, you know, born and raised in the valley that have famous parents, and it was just something that was interesting to me that I was like, you know what, you only live once.

Let's just try and see how it goes. You know, and which I mean, anybody who's brought this deal is going to be like absolutely I would. Absolutely. And then you see them like, you see them money, you see the rate, I'm like, okay, at the

end of the day, this is my job, and I take my job very seriously. Yes. And when those mics are on and those cameras are on, I snap into the, the square. Yeah, I snap into the sway that people love and have seen on the internet for 10 plus years,

you know, so, and the rest of the cast has never really experienced the internet side of

the world. You've lived a lot of life. As I was researching you, and I'm, if you see me over here, I'm like, it's kind of not so rare. Amazing.

“You've lived a lot of life, and I think that that's kind of what sets you apart.”

Like, you could automatically, as soon as you walked into that room of, I don't want to say kids, but as soon as you walk into that room, as kids, you can feel the difference of maturity from you as opposed to the other, because they're still learning. They're still listening. Absolutely.

And they're all like still growing. They're all still living at their parents' house. I moved out when I was 15 years old, you know, I've been living by myself, paying my own bills. So it was definitely like, I couldn't really relate to them, because they're all come from

like rich parents, and so you don't have their rich parent back. I don't have any of that. I mean, I grew up in a very middle class family in Las Vegas. It was basically like me and Tana. That was like me and Tana were the only really girls who kind of like came out of Vegas,

and I love Tana. That's my girl. No, she's my sister. I love her to death.

She's always been like literally my rock in all of this.

But yeah, it was something new that came to the table, and I was willing to take that risk. I was upset about the edit and the way that they made it seem like I was super close with these kids, right, that I had this special relationship with this girl, Gemma, on the show, which we can definitely get into. Yeah.

What is the dynamic with you and Gemma? Because I haven't watched the podcast. I did not even know that it dropped.

“That's how much the press it didn't get.”

So thank you, which I'm so happy about because it really hurt. I mean, I don't know the girl. I don't know where to the point where even in the show, I don't know if you'd watched. But like, I didn't even know how to spell her name. Right.

And we're like, I really, I filmed one scene with her, which was that beach scene. And that was the first day I met her, and they wanted to make it seem like I was friends with her before that, or I had known her when I really didn't. And then the next scene producers got into my car. They looked at me and they said, hey, you're going to do a scene with this girl, Gemma.

She's going through this thing with this boy and something happened in freshman year. And I'm saying they're like, okay, anyway, I can help this girl kind of get out of these emotions. I'm here. And I spoke and said some things that I would say to any other girl going through that

situation. That you're meeting for the first time, which I think is a huge bullet, bullet point that we need to, you know, dry home here because I feel like the internet is like, oh, my

Like, how can I turn my back on somebody I never had a relationship with in the beginning?

Right. And also Gemma's a bully. I mean, the things that she said about me, post filming the show, we filmed the show last year in July. Right.

It's been one year, and I've only really said, like, a few words in my life to this girl and for her to go on the internet and say the things she's doing, it's malicious and mean. And I stand up for bullying, I work very hard in my philanthropy with bullying, I work very closely with the foundation and I travel around schools and talk about this because

it's a very serious thing. Yeah. And I went through it personally at a young age and to see it all just kind of come up in this nasty light is really sad because this show was supposed to be something fun and lighthearted.

I think for all of us and it just kind of blew up.

I feel like a Gemma is, and I don't know, or I've never met her, but from what I've

seen from the scenes and from what you're telling me about, like, kind of what she's been saying on the podcast is it seems like she has a hard time letting go of things and she lets her emotions control her, you know, when she got up and she, like, young to pillow out of somebody's hand. It was awful.

“That's, that's when you're crossing the line and that's when you need to, the people”

need to throw up boundaries. I can't even believe the producers let her do that. Now listen, I come from a fighting background. Right. What is grabbing a pillow out of my hand, we're, we're scrapping it's smoke straight up.

Please straight up. Straight up. But I couldn't, like, in this day and age, I also couldn't believe that the producers even kept that in there, because you would be surprised the amount of stuff that they cut to.

Let's talk about that. Yeah, absolutely. And like, that's what I'm here for, because I want to be able to be like honest with this situation. Obviously, I wanted to kind of go along with the reality show in the bit, but like, it's

gone to a point where like, I want to clear it up. I want to clear my name and I also want to clear, like, just the debauchery that blew up on the show that wasn't supposed to be, that it wasn't supposed to be what it was, you know? Yeah.

“Gemma, from the beginning of the season, I think producers knew that she was going”

to do anything, right, to get some cloud coins, some little tokens. You know, this girl is of normal girl who lives in Calabassas. I've heard, I mean, even now it's crazy. I'm getting, I'm getting messages from like, girls from her old high school, like, she was an mean, mean girl in high school.

She did awful things to other kids. And now that it's all coming on, I'm like, I'm just going to let the truth speak for itself. Yeah. I wanted those, if there is a second season, people will start to see a pattern with

her. And I'm telling you, the masses change their minds constantly. Absolutely. Um, obviously, it's like the old saying goes hurt people hurt people, so something happened in Jenna, Gemma's life where she feels the need to have to project her pain onto other

people.

And that's never okay because in the end, you cannot bleed on the people that didn't

cut you. Exactly. And honestly, I've been nothing but loving and nice to that woman since the day, like, we've filmed to the premiere date. If you've seen, like, there's been, I think there's a few, like, an interview of me, just

talking about Gemma. And honestly, I was telling this interviewer that I was so proud of how good of a season she did and she, like, I was just saying great things because I didn't want any issues. At the end of the day, like, it's reality TV. I'm not going to say anything bad about you as long as you don't say anything bad about

me. But then the second she went on Vial files and said what she said, I was like, oh, I want nothing to do with the show. I want nothing to do with the production company, the way that they, even just like, I'm going to like, I'm going to go there and be honest, they had like reposted the things

that she'd said about me on Vial files and the president of the production company had reposted it and thought it was like, funny, mind you, what she said in the, in the Vial files video, she verbatimly looked at the camera and goes, she fucks men for a living.

“Not I think, not in my opinion, can we pull that up?”

It was awful. And like, I've tried to escape this narrative for the past decade in my career. I obviously, I date men in a different tax bracket than her and she clearly just cannot fathom that. She's never been exposed to the life that I've lived.

And so I think from what she sees on the internet and what she can grab and pull, I think she needs to learn that she can't just go online and say those things and think that it's okay. Right. You know, so when that came out, I immediately called like my close friends in the podcast

world in the industry and I'm like, what do I do about this? Because she needs to learn a lesson that she can't just go online and say those things and expect and not expect any repercussions, you know, like, especially at that age. I know for a fact, she's going to look back in five years and realize, you know, what

It was like, dang, like, you're that nasty. You're going to go there. Well, I think she's triggering your childhood ones all because she has now become your bully. And it's like you've ran your whole life trying to escape, you know, bully.

“It's like PTSD straight up, but I think the the best thing that you can do is keep being”

you and keep leading by example, because love always wins.

I know it's the hardest thing to do and I know it sounds like, oh, that's so cliche. But I promise you've got to take the high row. You have to take the high row. I also think that like these kids, I'm going to say kids because that's what it felt like. Yeah.

And I'm sure a lot of people can read that dynamic on the show. They've, they never, like, experienced, like I said, they never experienced any of this. So like, they're getting clips of them and they're on this high, you know, but once that like dies down, they're going to realize, like, oh, shoot, I might have, I'm, I shouldn't have said what I said for sure.

And so for people who don't know what the beef is over. Yeah. But yeah. I'm sorry, you guys. I'm sorry, you guys.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you guys. I'm sorry, you guys. I'm sorry, you guys. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I have to think in a million years, I would get sucked in to this show. And I watched like two episodes and I was like, oh, I'm in, I'm like, I'm watching this. I'm watching this. No, I did.

So, um, okay, there's this boy named Dylan. Yes, there is. Talk to me about Dylan and so Gemma had hooked up with Dylan and freshman year. Dylan and Gemma have, like, I guess hooked up freshman year of high school. And I didn't know Dylan when she was telling me all these stories.

Mind you. Like I said, I didn't know any of them. You met her one day. One time. And this is all you heard about him.

It was meeting her that first time. So we just want to clarify that ladies and gentlemen before you form an opinion. Absolutely. So, um, also like, I wanted to make a moment in the show. I knew if I was going to do this show, I was going to find a way to get a little bit

of screen time. You know, like, I wasn't going to have to ask it. And also, I needed to find a way to kind of, kind of stay in the show. So I saw Dylan. I met Dylan.

I thought he was so cute. So handsome. I'm like, there's no way that this is the kid that Gemma is talking about that whatever happened six years ago in high school or whatever you know. And you even stuck up for her the first night when he first met him when he was

being a douchebag. Absolutely. And I always will. Like, I don't, I don't think any man should say what he said to Gemma. You're good.

Yeah. I don't care how much beef you have. Say that to women. Right. And that night was actually my first night.

I had met him. Was at that party. Did you know right then and there you wanted to hook up with him when you met him?

I, fun fact, I actually was never intimate with him.

So that's also like another huge thing that should be known. I've never hooked up with him. I never had sex with him. Like, this was all, I hate to say, and I hate to break that it was all scripted.

“Like, for my story and my storyline in the show, the only way for me to stay in this”

season, I was like, OK, well, I'm not going to let this girl Gemma control what I do in the show. That's a fact. Right. And so I saw Dylan.

I was like, oh, he's cute. And the amount of times that producers told me to kiss him on camera. It was like they had a gun to my head. And I didn't do that because I knew that personally, my morals, I would never kiss on camera on national television.

And I personally think it's the most embarrassing thing to ever do. So I think it depends on the setting. Yeah. And it's like the person, right? Like, they're kids.

They're kids. They have to kiss on camera later on. No, you never know. You never know.

I'm single and wild now, so you never know what could happen.

Aren't we all? Oh my goodness. So yeah, that's also like another huge thing that like, people don't really understand is that, yeah, I never was friends with them. Dude, I totally thought you guys banged.

No. And it's not amazing. It's like you were like a wild cat. Like, he just could not. There's not even a scene of me even smooching the kids.

Yeah. Like, the most I ever touched him on camera was because Bill Dixon, the head show producer,

“he pulled me inside and he goes, "Sway, for this scene, you need to act like you're”

kind of flirting." Is it the beach scene? It's the beach scene. And I'm like, you're like, "My arm." And you can tell that.

Like, okay, I'm doing this because I want, obviously, I want a good show. I want a successful show. And me and the head show producer ended up becoming really close. And so was Gemma's reactions pure? Well, I think for her, it was real.

Like, she thought, all of this was real. Okay. And you could, there's a way that you could play her. There's a on and off button with my career. I have my real life, I have my real friends, my real connections.

And then I had this TV show with a bunch of kids that I had to turn the switch on to

You finessed a situation.

Absolutely. And it worked because, you know, and you know what, I did you, you and Dylan sold the show. Like, yeah, it wasn't for Dylan and I, like, there would be no storyline. There would be. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It was very much like the Dylan and Swade and Gemma. Well, Gemma is known for being upset all the time. I mean, she screamed right probably five times throughout the whole season over absolutely nothing.

Yeah, it was a lot. So, and like, even that, like, I already knew off-rip that I wasn't going to be friends with her. Right. And the only person I was somewhat close with during the whole show and even before

the show was this girl Nicole and me and Nicole shared the same manager. So we were, me and her were pitched the show at the same time. Right. And they said, okay, well, we'll take Nicole because she's from the Valley and she knows these kids and Swade.

She's just a big internet personality. Why not bring her into, you know, make a little Swade. Lotsa here. Yeah. So we talked about this Swade latte because that is so funnier like, can I get this

Swade latte? And it's so funny how that actually like ended up becoming like such a moment. Yeah.

“Which honestly, I'm so happy about that.”

No, I love it. I love her name, by the way. Thank you. Is that's your real name? It's my real name.

I have a sister named India and I have a brother named Blaze. Oh, my God. I love that. I love that. I love that.

Now, Swade is so pretty. When I first heard that I was like, God, if I ever have a little girl, I would do my little name. Honestly, if I was a boy, I still was going to be Swade, but it was going to be SW.

Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I forgot where we were talking about the Swade latte. So, my gosh, yes, the Swade latte.

So a close friend of mine owns a coffee shop called Lala Land and he had reached out to me about a year and a half ago and he was like, hey, we're going to do this like secret my new situation. We're going to get you and like a few other big influences in LA. We're going to do lattes.

I'm like, I love coffee.

I've always had a passion for it.

I make coffee by for myself every morning. And I was like, let's do a banana cream latte. And so I curated the whole kind of latte and we did a big press release. We did a whole lunch and it's still on the menu to this day, which is so fun now. It's funny because I did this a while back.

Yeah. But it's funny how it kind of like, research it and now you have kids going up to the coffee shop. Hey, can I get a smoothie? Yeah.

I love it. I think it's so sweet.

“The sound on TikTok, I think, is viral too.”

No, I know that. So, and like, people are recreating and kind of cracks me up. And we should do it. Let's do it together. We have to do it together.

We have to do it together. Oh, for you. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. But yeah.

So, like, I went into the show just wanting to show my character, show who I show who I am, as a person. And with the way that, you know, these reality shows work, they like to cut it and edit it the way they want and make you seem, who do you think got the best edit out of the whole show?

I feel like, even though people are mad at you, I feel like you and Dylan got like the best edits out of it. We definitely got the most screen time for sure. Yeah. And like, like I said, I'm not going to have to ask anything I do.

All right. Go into this. Like, I'm going to go balls and try my best not to obviously disrespect anyone, which I, which I won't want. I mean, even sitting here being hurt by Gemma's words on Vial files, which didn't

look good. Well, if I think this is, yeah. So the Vial file situation before that dropped, me and Gemma were on good terms. I, I, I mean, a pat to her in the second week of finished filming, I said, hey, as long as you don't come from my family, and you don't come for things that will actually hurt

me.

“Babe, I'm all for you making TikToks for the success of the show, right?”

Purely for the success of the show, have fun. Do what, do what you want, but then it got real. I landed in New York about a week ago, and we were all supposed to film the, like, it's like an interview they were supposed to do as an added episode, and I landed in New York, and I opened my phone and somebody had sent me the Vial files of what she had said.

And when she said what she said on that, I was like, oh, I can't believe I missed that. Do I, my research last night? That's how much it did not put. No. Which I honestly am so happy about, because like, it's like, girl, if you're going to say

something like that, at least come with receipts.

And yeah, I know for a fact that go don't have receipts because I've never done that

day in my life. Yeah. I mean, that's just, it's a, it's a low blow. It's a low blow, babe, like, come on. Yeah.

I'm all four going tipped for town online, funny, like, but now when you're affecting my career and my reputation, that's where I'm like, shine, yeah, like, I don't have time for you. You're a random girl that lives in Calabasis, but actually, I hate to break it. You live on my best friends land, her family bought a, bought a property on my friends. Like literally, like my uncle's land.

Yeah. I don't want to be affected by a girl that I have nothing to do with that I genuinely don't know. Well, I also feel like they're kind of ganging up on you, too. Oh, absolutely.

Can you see, can you find it? But it's like a mansion coming from that much money and being rich and having famous

It's like, girl, you got all the resources to be, she has Preston, like joining a now on the TikTok. Which is also like, I'm buying you.

“I've had issues with Preston's mother, okay?”

Oh. I have. Yeah. That's, that's where I'm going to start. Wait a second.

Yeah. No. Okay. So Preston's mom is. Preston's mom is Larissa Pippen.

Larissa Pippen. Okay. I feel like I'm going to keep my comments to myself, but okay. So Larissa Pippen is a grown-ass woman. She's my age, right?

She is indeed. Yeah. So why on earth would you ever have beef with this woman? I didn't have beef with her. I, like I said, I've had issues with Larissa, so the fact that I'm even having issues with

her son now, I'm like, whether he's up with the family tree, baby, she's grown to be active and like that, like, and also Preston, like, you would think with all that money and fame that you would have some sort of personality, like, the guys unemployed.

That guy's never makes me as being very passive.

And also, I'm going to leave this, I'm going to leave this very as like a blank statement. The guy hasn't found himself, and I think he's dealing with a lot of demons that he hasn't come to terms with himself. Oh, well, we gathered that. And the way that he acts as a 21 or two year old male to be coming at women like that on the

internet and you think it's funny, or you think it's whatever. Well, I think it says more about him than anybody else. Well, and as an adult looking in, I can see that he has a lot of mom trauma. Absolutely. And I don't even, he even kind of talks about it and breaks down in the show, talking about

how much his mom has affected his, you know, growing up and all that stuff. So, not giving him a pass, but he is 21, so he's got a fair.

“I mean, he's so growing and he's still running, but that's what I'm saying.”

Like, yeah, I feel like when these kids do look back at this show, they're going to realize, like, oh, wow, I shouldn't have stoop to that level, or I shouldn't have said what I said. And that's why they want you guys because everybody's green and everybody's willing to make those mistakes because that's really great TV.

Right. And you're going to let, if they ask you to come back for a second season, will you come back for a second season? Honestly, it would depend on the rate, it would depend on where I am with my business at that point, I don't think you should ever let the way these people are acting towards

you ever determine your future. Yeah. Agreed. I also just don't want the narrative out that, like, I'm like best friends with these kids.

Well, I think you're not American straight now, so I'm very happy about it. Yeah.

That's what I really wanted to clear, because I would never be friends with bullies.

Yeah. I would never be friends with girls like Gemma. So, where do you and Dylan stand? Me and Dylan are on great terms. Okay.

“It's honestly been the only one in the cast that was kind of like there for me throughout”

all of it, because like I said, this is all very new to me and I knew it for him too. But I told him when the cameras were off and all of the mics were off, that like me and him no matter what we're going to be on great terms. I never thought of anything serious with him. I never thought that I was like, I never thought that I would like see him as like a significant

other whatsoever. I was purely just having fun and trying to make great TV. Yeah. And so now that the cameras are off, you guys hooked up or anything like that. We have it.

We haven't hooked up. Girl, you're making this boy wait. No, seriously, does he, is he into you? Because I'm going to be asking him all these questions too, because you know, Dylan's come in on and like a week, right?

Oh, I love that. Yeah, no. Honestly, he's great. Me and Dylan have such a great friendship that I also have moved on. Yeah.

I want to like, I just don't see myself dating him. I don't feel like he's talking to a cowboy, like I don't, that's not my, yeah. I don't feel like he's in your tax bracket. No, thank you. You put it into the choir, babe.

It's like, it's very, it was all fun. It was all supposed to be fun and like hardest. And that's not me being mean in any way, shape or form, because Dylan seems like a sweet husband. But he has a lot of growing to do.

Yeah. Well, that and it's also your use to a certain type of man that you date, so I'm used to men. Yes. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different, different ball game, different field, if you will. Yeah. Let's see this clip from Gemma really quick, so I can analyze it. Yeah, please.

I need the bunny analyst, seriously. Can we talk about Swade? Oh, please, can we? So I was confused, and I'm a fan of Swade. Yeah.

But the first episode or the second episode, she's giving you big sister advice.

Yeah. And in the next episode, she's dating Dylan. Yeah. Basically. Yeah.

She was close to you, right? Yes. So like, was that a shocking 100%, I think everyone was completely shocked by that, because

She's really giving that vibe, and I'm going to coach you guys and be this big sister to everyone I've been in. I've been in this. Really?

“No, just in life, I feel like she always is like, I'm just going to be a person”

you can go to, because I've been doing this for so long, and like, she acts like, I,

why would I even bother, you know, with that, that's basically how I got it from her.

It's like, why would I even bother with that kid like, and then they went home after Kiki Chela, and I don't know, I guess she gave him a ride home, but then that was multiple rides. Yes, multiple. Where did the two of you stand today?

We're not friends. Yeah. I don't, I did not appreciate the comment about calling me an unemployed. I don't think what she necessarily does counts as an employed. So.

No, but doesn't she do? I mean, like, you know, she was, and she was big in her time no longer, you know, how do you think she keeps up with that lifestyle? She goes on yachts with guys and does things for money, and so I, that's, I don't count that as employed either, so.

So the photos of her, like, with Drake were your yoc girl. Let's just say what it is. We've all sucked a dog for some money. Okay. And that's right.

Like, what are we saying, Gemma? Like, babe, you have it so twisted. You're a yoc girl. I love that. Okay, so yoc girl.

Yeah, literally, right? I'm like, should I take it? Is that all she said? This is a very dry, dry, dry, dry, it's giving snooze to us. Okay.

I watched two minutes of it. I was waiting for the punch line. And mind you, if she would have said this and had a punch line after that, that would have made me laugh. Yeah.

By all means, have a ball. Do you do a verbatimly say that? Yeah. I feel like she's a little fresh.

She's never lived in the real world.

You can tell. She's been stuffed up in West Lake village for a whole life. You know what I mean? I feel like it's giving, just she's super jealous and intimidated. Absolutely.

And I hate that. So I don't blame her. I'd be jealous too. Seriously. I hate that for her because it makes her look very bitter.

Like her entire storyline on and off camera, like, is this what you want to present to the world, is just being this bitter woman who literally puts down other women, this bitter mean girl. Yeah, like she's got a, she needs to switch that up because it will, and I hope that she will honestly.

It will end up biting her in the ass to where she's going to have to change because God doesn't like ugly and when you go around bashing people like this and spewing hatred, the way that she does, it comes back. The full circle always comes back full circle and she's going to have to learn a really hard lesson if she doesn't change it immediately.

And also. It's already winning this entire situation. It's not that you guys weren't friends and to see her acting like this and knowing that you guys had only met one time, like, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't owe her any loyalty because you didn't know her.

And I still don't know her, right? And I don't plan on getting to know her honestly ever again after like the things that she said. And please, I think she's made probably nine TikToks about me and those are the only ones that are getting views because, and like by all means, use, use my name for views all

you want.

“If that's the only way that you can give views, babe, have a ball, right?”

But to get pressing in on it and like all the other cast members, it's like, girl, I love that you haven't even made one now. No, because I don't care about these kids.

They're literally kids to me and I could, I could read that from the day, the first day

I was on set. The second day put this mic up and I saw Gemma, I was like, oh no, I'm in for a ride. So besides Nicole, is there anybody else in the, like, little crew that your friends with or that? So it's funny because I'm a friend, I'm friends with a lot of their older siblings.

Like, first see Miller, I'm really close with this older brother Romeo that I've known for years. I did one of my home girls for a minute. Yeah. And it's so that I'm not masturbating.

I'm not being gay. Is there, I fucking love masturbating? Dude, I grew up on masturbating. How you do that? Yeah.

I was like so excited. I was like, look at the OG and it's such a moment, especially with the father son. Yeah. It's such a great dynamic. So yeah.

I love it. Like, I've known Romeo Miller, so her she's older brother and then I've known Jody because I know Jordan Woods and I know Jordan's mom for years. I met Jody when she was 11 years old.

“Which can we talk about how frickin' beautiful Jody is?”

Oh my god, she's so beautiful. I'm so proud of her too, honestly. And she stays out of grown folks business. I know that's right. She doesn't bother anybody, like she keeps her head down and like, she hustles

and she's a hard worker and I honestly have nothing but the utmost respect for Jody. I think she was 11 years old, so it's so cool to see her grow and flourish into the woman that she is. Yeah. It's amazing.

And like, I love her mom and they're all great. But yeah, so like I said, it's like, I know a lot of them like because of their older

right? Literally any of them. It's so crazy to me that they did this show and didn't have Alabama barker on it or land and I'm, I'm very close to Scott and Scott does say, oh yeah, we're going to talk about Scott.

Scott, we can't. It's like a brother to me and it's so cool. Let's go. Let's do it. Yeah, so I was very shook that they didn't ask land and or Alabama because I heard

that land in an Alabama through like the absolute raging parties in Calibases and like they are like Calibases. So that's what I heard too.

“I think, honestly, they probably asked her and she said, no, I don't know if she left a”

comment. I saw you guys. Yeah. But you know, she could have just been messing around too, but I've been trying to get bam on the podcast forever and we, I think it's awful the way the internet really

just now. I'm so protective of her because I'm friends with her mom, Shayna. So I think, yeah. Shayna to death. So that's like baby girl.

Yeah, so you look at her, like you look at your own daughter and like I would never

want. I mean, the way that they excuse my language fucked up on the internet, it's awful. But I love that she's turning the tides now and she's so talented. I can't wait for her to drop her own curling iron. I know.

I know. I know. And she needs to do a wig line. Absolutely. Girl has the best legs I've ever seen.

And she's like, she's talented like she knows how to do hair. Absolutely. So talk about Scott Dysick. Yeah. You guys never dated.

We never dated. He's been a close, okay. So I met Scott when I was. He's like, how old are you? I'm 25.

Okay. And he's like 40 something. I think. No, yeah. We just celebrated his birthday, like, not long ago.

Scott, be hangin' around the young chicks. He does. And it's funny. I met him a while back in New York when I was, I was definitely underage. Right.

Sure. We were leaving a Vogue party. Not shocking. Okay. So, check out.

Okay. Scott, we love you. I know he's watching this too. Yeah. I've talked about Scott throughout the year.

No. I can't. Let's get the Lord on the podcast. No, we should. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Honestly, I would have brought him. Honestly. He's like, he's a very close friend of mine. And even when the show dropped, the first message I got from him was, how are

“you guys going to make a show in the Valley and not call me?”

No. Scott's like, I want to be the babysitter. Those straight up. But yeah, there was like this narrative online that me and him dated. We've never dated.

He's always literally been like a brother to me.

I see him. He's not creepy. He's never, like, he's not creepy. I'm, I love that. Yeah.

It's like family. Like straight up, I love Mason. Penelope's a sweetheart. All the kids are great. Yeah.

He's always, honestly, been there for me. And especially during this whole reality show stuff. If I could say one person that has had my back and helped me through a lot of these situations, it's him. Like because he's been through his hands.

And he knows how these narratives get spun. And this that the third please. If I could tell you the text messages. He sent me about that girl, Gemma. Oh, God.

Because he watches. He knows Gemma. Or he doesn't know Gemma personally. But like he watched the show. And he's like, Oh, my goodness.

He's like, I've seen this before. Thank you.

“He's like, Oh, this, I could read this from mile away.”

Yeah. So it's great. And I have, I, he really have them up most respect for him. I love that. I'm going to go back to your childhood.

Just get to it. Let's do it. Who don't know like your your background and your upbringing. So you grew up in Vegas. Born and raised in Vegas.

You were homeschooled. I mean, tell me all about your childhood. So I, so I grew up in, yeah, born and raised in Henderson. And I was a pretty normal outgoing girl in elementary school and up to middle school. I was a chapter the captain of the cheer team.

I had such a passion for cheerleading and dancing.

And that was like basically my whole life up until about eighth grade.

That's when everything just kind of went downhill with my emotions. And this is when the all the bullying started happening. I was really catalyst for the bullying starting. So I was severely bullied by a family friend of ours. They lived directly across the street from us.

It was a mother and two twin girls. The mom would say awful things to me comment. This is like right when Instagram was happening to you. She tried to run me over with her car. And that was like the final straw where my mom was like, oh.

Okay. This is real now. And we need to do something about it. I'm okay. So she tried to run you over what were what was her ground.

And that that there's ever an excuse for bullying jealousy. Wow. The, the whole thing was about like me copying the twin girls. Like in close because mind you. We all shopped at the same stores.

We all went to Pakistan because they had the Brandy Mobile. And all of us. I mean, have to school have the same t-shirt because we would all go back to school. Shopping at the same places. Right.

It was all rooted in just jealousy and comparison. And it got to a point when men took a pic on it.

And that's amazing. It was, it was so traumatic.

“At that age to, I felt like my role was collapsing.”

It was 12 years old. I would sit in my room and just watch these girls put on makeup. And I would, I would watch, I mean, please, Tricia Patus. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole group of girls that I could name off.

That really impacted my career. Yeah. Yeah. And like, but like the prime YouTube era. I'm talking like when it was going to.

Yeah. 2012 to like 2017. I traveled the world. I would go to like beauty con. I don't know if you remember.

I'm at. But yeah. So. You just started making these videos for fun at 12. Nobody knew.

So my, I hid my YouTube channel for like a year. For my whole family. Okay. So would you have gotten in trouble? Had they have found out?

Um, okay. So the whole, I was hiding it because I back then, like saying you were a youtuber, was like embarrassing or like to say you made videos. It was like, there was like a negative connotation to it. So I kept it like to myself because it was just something I just had fun.

Like it was like, it was my escape and it's what made me happy. And I just geeked out over camera equipment lighting editing. I would, I would sit for hours and just edit these little beauty videos and upload them. Not thinking anything of it. Like it might mind you.

I didn't even know you can make money. This was before the influencer. Business was even like a thing. You know, you were influencing before. Before.

Yeah. And I was just like, I'm having fun with this. Yeah. And so yeah, I hid it from a year. I was in Target one day and the little girl had come up to me.

I was with my mom and she goes, I love your videos.

And the second, she said that.

“My mom's face went like blue because she was like, what, what type of videos are you talking?”

What do you mean videos? So obviously as a mom, you think the worst. Yeah. And so I had to sit down both my parents. I'm like, hey guys, I have a YouTube channel.

I've been making beauty and fashion content. I really have a passion for it. And they were just so happy that I found an escape. They were happy. It wasn't anything else.

I know that's right. And it will never be. Okay. Yeah. But yeah.

So my parents also come from the beauty background. We own a few hair salons in Vegas at the time. And my mom's a hairdresser and my dad ran and managed all of them. So I understand. I understand.

Do you want to shout him out? It was called diva studio. Yeah. And it was also just so fun growing up in that environment. I would go to all the hair shows.

My mom would travel the world and do teach for all these like amazing hair brands.

Laura, well, well, all the OGs. So it was cool. Just I also had a feeling I was going to be in an industry somewhere like that. Whether it was hair, makeup, anything like that. Yeah.

It's just your DNA. Yeah.

“So they were just happy that I found something that I had a passion for.”

And that I loved, you know. And I was keeping myself busy. And one thing led to another. I kind of built this like pretty solid fan base on YouTube. And one to get big on YouTube.

It's like, it's definitely the most respected platform. Yeah. To build on too. And it is the hardest. And once you, I don't know, I'm going to show you, because you'll laugh at this.

This is my one tattoo that I have. Yeah. And it's the little YouTube. Oh. And we had to pay my euros.

Back to the roots. I love that. Yeah. YouTube was such a big part of my life. And then once the adpocalypse happened in 2016.

I kind of straight away from it just because all the advertisers pulled out. And we weren't making less than a quarter of what we used to make. Wow. And you told me. I got up a platform.

Always. It doesn't matter what platform it is. You know. And then I just kept making kind of short form content. And then once TikTok came around.

I was like, oh, no. We have a whole new app on the market. This is dangerous. And I started posting on there. And I just kind of posted what I knew.

What would do well on YouTube back in the day? Yeah. We're getting ready with me. And like, everyday makeups on YouTube. So I would, I posted them on TikTok.

And I kind of built this whole new Gen A fan base on TikTok with my little get ready with me. Yeah. During COVID. Yeah. And it really, it didn't save me.

But it felt like I was kind of back. Back in the scene, if you were. It wasn't a subject for you. It was. Yeah.

Because I've always had a passion for making videos.

So it was nice to just kind of come back to that. But growing up in Vegas was sick. Yeah. I really loved it. That was prime Vegas time back then.

Like we were just talking about it before. The cameras were right. That Vegas is just not what it used to be. It's not. And there's too many transplants.

Now the 2015 slammed. Like, God, now I can't do it. I've tried so hard to go back. And every time I go back, it's like, I'm cool for like the first three days. And then I'm like, okay.

Okay. I'm over it. Yeah. Please, even when I go back home, like I go home, stay at the win. I, why don't leave the win?

Yeah. Let's try the way to do Vegas. You know, let's talk about how you're a poker player. Absolutely. How did you get into this?

I think it's hot. I love some hot chicks. Gamble.

And now Tana's doing it too. I love it. No.

“So tell me, take me on this whole gambling thing.”

Like does this scare you to lose money? Um, it does. But I feel like also being from Vegas. Yeah. It's in the bloodline.

Yeah. It's naturally in us. I was in, I tried to gamble one night. I was at the Bellagio. And I lost like four grand one night.

So annoying. And I was like, I want a room. I want this thing. I said, I'll fuck you. Come on.

Get me the page. Come on. Literally. I was like, it's so upset that I thought it through the biggest fit. And I was like, I thought I was like, I don't like, I'll gamble with other

people's money. So whenever I used to work, I would go and play with the high rollers. Of course. You said that high limit room would have a ball. Absolutely.

I thought it was okay if they lost 250 grand. Yeah. I was like a little sick about it. On the side. Yeah.

Slip and chips in my little money. Exactly. For emergency. Yes. Oh, no.

I get to grow. So the poker thing kind of came about. A close friend of mine that I grew up in Vegas. His name's Blakewin. He started like a celebrity poker tournament.

And he called me one day and he was like, hey, we're doing a tournament. It's out of 150 people. Do you want to come play? And I was like, you know what?

I've never played before.

I have no idea how to play. But I'm going to say yes. And I'll make this happen. Yeah. So I downloaded a poker app on my phone.

I learned how to play on my phone. And within three days I went to the tournament. And I ended up winning first place out of 150 people. That's currently in the poker world. Yeah.

It was like unheard of. Right. Well, beginners luck. I mean, they get a hundred percent. But has that luck struck with you.

“And honestly, I just got back from a poker tournament in Vegas.”

And I'm very proud of myself. I'm very happy with it. But yeah, poker has become such a passion for me. Yeah. I love playing it.

I love, like, especially because it's such a male dominated game. Yeah. When they see a six foot blonde body come to the table. Yeah. They think that you don't know how to play.

You know what I mean? Well, they're distracted by how hot you are. Thank you. I'm like, titties up. Yes.

Let's do this as legs girl. Thank you. Yeah. And so yeah, I started playing more and more. And then these companies started reaching out like the WSOP, which is like the world series of poker,

which is like the, oh, the creme de la creme de poker. Yeah. I'm sure they were looking at you. And they were like, absolutely. We want her.

Right. And the game that I had of one, it was the last two players where me and Jose can say go. Oh.

And I've always looked up to him.

Yeah. In the poker space, at least because I would always see clips of him. I knew he was always good. So even just playing with somebody like that. I love his character.

I love Jose. I mean, Jose's even close for years. Such a good girl. So even, yeah, playing with somebody that's like a five time poker champion. I was so honored.

And I learned so much playing with him. I hope in the future to be playing bigger tournaments. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely like a fun little side hustle. Is it like a passion now though?

Or yes. I mean, it's just, it's brought in so many amazing opportunities. Yeah. I mean, please, I was able to go to the Bahamas with WSOP. And I stayed there for like two weeks and did a tournament.

So it's cool. This is the fun opportunity. And also just the new people that I've met. I've met people from all around the world. Yeah.

At these tournaments. And it's just cool. Especially being a girl. Yeah. And you feel very seen.

I'll tell you that. Absolutely. Well, I mean, you're making the sport look good. Because it's mostly. It's like, yeah, all done.

Yeah. It's straight up. It's a male dominated sport. So, you know, I have to switch it up. They're like, I'm going to select the Barbie button.

Yeah. Exactly. So moving on from the poker. Let's talk about this dating life. Let's talk babe.

So you have been linked to Kid Cutty.

“And you guys were together for like a couple years, right?”

We were together for for a minute. Yeah. I wouldn't say a couple years. But he had a, yeah. He made a big impact on my life.

We traveled the world together. We had so much fun. He's such a great guy. Yeah. I'm so happy for him and where he's at in his life.

He's married. And yeah, he's just doing great. How did you guys meet? And how did this relationship? We met in New York City through a mutual friend.

He actually showed up to dinner one night. And I was like, I didn't, I didn't even know who he was. Because I didn't grow up on Kid Cutty. You know. Yeah.

So I thought he was handsome. And one thing led to another. We had, we had an amazing relationship. And he's, I have nothing but amazing things to say about him. He's such a solid guy.

And he's so talented. Um. Yeah, he's fabulous. He's major. He's the biggest.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. So let's talk about this whole yacht situation that happened with you and Drake.

Because I know there's so many rumors around there that are always flying about like you and Drake.

Or were you in Drake dating? No, that that's funny because that was also like another narrative that they kind of thought. Yeah. Let's clear it up, sister. So basically I was staying on my friend's bow and her father had hired Drake to come to the bow

and throw a party in San Trope and Drake had never been in San Trope.

And so he came on the bow. He came with his friends. It was, it was amazing. He's such a great guy. Um, I obviously, when I met him, I was like, oh, this is so cool.

But he's like coming on our bow and performing at our party. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I feel like the narrative that was spun was like, I kind of stepped onto his territory. And like, I, when in reality it was like, no, he came onto our program. Right.

And it's funny how the internet likes to, you know, switch things and turn things around. Yeah. And it doesn't matter what you say, they'll still twist it. Like you can tell. You can't complete absolute truth, exactly.

“And I think they just want to believe like the more spicier like whatever story.”

Did you like Drake ever hook up? I'm going to take that as a yes. Yeah. I mean, we did. Okay.

And he's great. Yeah.

Um, would you ever, are you going to sell friends or I haven't spoken to him?

Yeah. I mean, a minute. I don't really like to speak to a lot of my like prior flings or like my or men that I've dated in my past. Like once you lose me, I'm gone. So he lost you.

He didn't. He didn't. What do you do? Give us the tea. Oh, my goodness.

I'm like, what didn't he do? I mean, he's Drake. You know, he doesn't strike me as a man that can have like a solid relationship. You know, because he's Drake. And he's also just like so talented and so busy in what he does and lives like he lives such a big fulfilled busy life.

Yeah. I personally couldn't keep up with that. Um, it's hard. These guys. I mean, yeah.

Girl, you, you've been through. Yeah. That's a good thing. Yeah. So I'm in it right now, sister.

No way. Yeah. We'll get there. Yeah.

“Oh, and also I'm rooting for you and I'm so sorry.”

Thank you. You don't have to say sorry. I am free baby. Is it for the better? Yes.

It's for the better and you feel good. Oh, I feel emotional. You're good. It took me a minute to get there. But it takes time.

Time heals, but time kills, you know? We're not talking about you. We're talking about you, sister. So how long did you and Drake date? Um, we dated.

I wouldn't say like on enough for a few months. Really? I would go see him in Toronto. Yeah. Yeah.

And then one day I was like, I'm tired of this. Was it just because he had other girls or was it like, was he just not honest? Like, there had to be something that made you be like, I don't want to talk to this man again. I think it was.

It was definitely like honesty. Yeah. I believe it at that. Yeah. And that's tough.

I mean, especially when you're dating somebody of that caliber and with that power, when we did end things, it was very, I was very scared for my safety. And for a lot of things for a long time living in LA, that we didn't say said to me, we're very alarming at,

when I was 21 or 22 at the time. And when you hear those things,

said to you about coming from the most powerful artists in the world

that has so much power and can do things, the unimaginable within the snap of a finger. It was very scary. What were some of the things that he said that would scare you like that. Because that's not cool.

You're a baby. That was a baby. Yeah. And I like, please, I still feel like a baby. You are.

You are still a baby. It's 25 as a baby. Yeah.

“I think I've just experienced, you've lived so much live girl.”

You're an old soul. And I feel like that. Yeah. I mean, I think also moving out at such a young age and being snapped into reality. But yeah, I don't think I want to get into specifics because I hate bringing

that stuff kind of back up. Yeah. But he is so talented. I know he has a great heart. And I wish it like I wish him nothing but the best in his future.

I hope he finds somebody that he loves and cherishes for the rest of his life. But it wasn't me. And it got to a point where it was almost like I physically and emotionally. Can't give you what you need. So I'm going to step away.

Yeah. And I kind of left it at that. And I'm missing things to scare you. Like that's where you deserve that. Well, that's where it was scary because it's almost abusive.

Especially, like I said, somebody of that power. Mm-hmm. Like getting text messages that he's going to have bitches fold me up verbatimly. That's what he said. I was like, what?

Or I'm gonna not. It was all miscommunication.

And did he think you were talking to the press?

No, he thought I was talking like shit about him in LA when I never was.

So that and I give him grounds to say that he's going to have bitches fold you up. Literally verbatimly. And I was like, oh my gosh. So I didn't leave. I'm not kidding you.

Babe, I did not leave my house for like three months. I didn't step outside. Like I didn't like go out at least because like I was scared. Because especially somebody of that power. And I know I've grown a lot from it.

And I know he's grown a lot from it. So during that time it was emotional for both of us because it was just like a big miscommunication. But he is so talented. How's his dog? Because that's really what people want to know about.

I mean we need the tea. I like no good man. Literally we need the tea on drugs. It's dog. Okay.

It's my biggest. Because I didn't.

“Was it their picture that got leaked of his dog somewhere?”

That wasn't his. That was not his. Okay. He's like, "Wish is it, whispers?" And I'm going to leave it up thought.

All right sister, we cleared that up. All right, so Drake is not packing. All right. Okay, so I'm moving on. Like when I was with him and hang out with him, he's so fun.

He has the biggest personality. He's honestly one of the funniest people I know. And mind you. I'm not his type. He likes baby I'll band it.

He likes. I think it's like throwing off. Okay, I agree. I agree. Listen, I made chase at all.

Exactly. But men will fuck off. Even with me, I was very surprised that he even wanted anything to do with me because I'm not that. How old was he when you guys were hooking up? Because he's older.

Okay. He was 36. Yeah, that's crazy. 36 and a 21 year old. I mean, he really is like.

This is great. I'm just because I met his mother. And I'm seeing their dynamic together. Like, yeah, he is a white Jewish boy.

“As much as like people want to as much as he wants to like be this person.”

So one of the pieces. Some like. Yeah. Like he'll he'll have a child, which is like his head is secure. He's like such a pure sweet heart.

Yeah. Like you would never. The person. That sounds like it. He sounds like such a sweetheart.

No, right. Right. So there must be two sides to him then. And like I said, I have I have nothing but. Good things to say about him besides the fact that he's scared.

Yeah. He like almost threatened me, which was scary at that age. And I know in that time, I give him benefit of the doubt. It's okay for you to be. It says, "Speak your truth."

Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to protect him. You know what I'm saying? And I don't.

I don't owe him anything. No. You know what I mean? Like it was very. I met.

He came to my friends boat. He thought I was cute. We were tripping up a storm. I've never.

I've never laughed with somebody harder than him.

He's got the humor. He has like the comedy which I personally live for. Yeah. But yeah, it was kind of it was just scary. Yeah.

At that age. And especially dealing with somebody like that. Somebody that I also like looked up to. I loved Drake. I'm growing up.

Yeah. But I always say don't meet your heroes because. Please. I've been just in bebers like my number one. And I've been in rooms with him where I literally have be lined it out of the room.

Because I have this. And my head where he's my number one. And I don't want that to be let down. Yeah. You know, I get it.

Deepers like literally my only one where I'm like. Right or die. Yeah. You're like, please don't fuck those out for me. No.

No. The same bebers. The same girls. I will come. Yeah.

Yeah. She's like, what is it a believer? Yeah. It's a hard core believer.

“What is one of the weirdest celebrity interactions that you have ever had?”

Oh, this is good. Oh, my God. I can say. You don't have to say names. Yeah.

No. Oh, give you something juicy. Yeah. Because I know you've been around some crazy. Yeah.

You've lived a lot of lives for something. And it feels like that too. Yeah. I think the weirdest celebrity interaction would probably be. I feel like there's some good ones.

It's got to be a good one. What about like, what's one of the most absurd things you've witnessed at an LA party? Oh, my goodness. There's like, bro, I mean, so there's this one party in LA that happens every year on Halloween. That's Halloween.

And I probably been once. But it's like, if they do that this mansion and mind you, I'm walking. And I'm thinking this, this is just some normal Halloween party, right? Next thing you know, you look up the, each door is like a different room. And there's like, brothels happening and like just, I mean, LA has crazy parties.

Yeah. And also the thing I find really interesting, just even in the last ten years, the amount of drugs that these kids consume, which is now there's new ones.

Like, I remember when 2C first came on the market.

I'm like, what is this pink stuff, y'all are snorting? What is in C? Thank you. I don't even know what that is. I know like, okay.

Yeah, cocaine right now. Now there's a whole new one.

And now it's everyone does it. And it's like, I don't drink. And I don't do drugs. Yeah.

So like, I've never really, I can only relate to what I know.

But from what I see at these parties, the amount of drugs that these kids are consuming now is like, it's so alarming. And like, for me personally, I've never felt the need to have drugs or liquor in my system to have fun. And don't start.

I feel like I'm already walking high. You know, with my personality and just how I am. And I love my life. I don't need a chase. Well, now is not the time to do drugs.

Okay. Because they fucking did. You're dropping dead. Literally, like, I mean, back in the day people were dying too. But the judge was playing right here.

Nowadays, you don't know what the fuck you are literally playing Russian Relet. And I know like all these kids run around with like, fit in all testers and stuff like that. No, it doesn't matter.

“If you need to do, if you need to test your drugs before doing.”

Some things already up. That's your first step. Yeah. That's a thank you. Yeah.

Yeah. My best friend died of an overdose about like four years ago. And dealing with that was because it was fourth of July. And he, he wanted to do a line of cocaine and boom. A centimeter of fentanyl, your toast.

Yeah. And like seeing that firsthand is like, okay, well, what's the, what's the upside? Where's the upside? There's no upside.

It drugs make you feel like shit. They make you look like shit. Yeah. There's just nothing that is positive from doing drugs. Except for maybe making a full of yourself and have forgetting the night that you have.

For getting the night. Thank you in the doing it all over again. Yeah. Yeah. No.

I mean, I did it. I partied whenever I was younger. Like we all had our time. Please, I used to like, I think I've gotten drunk only a few times in my life. But I remember drinking a four-local when I was in high school.

And I was like, oh, never again.

Yeah. This is fucking scary. She said a four-local. But the four green four-local to the dough. Oh.

I've never had one. I've never had one. I've never had one. I've never had one. I've never had one.

I've never had one. I've never had one. I've never had one. I've never had one. Literally.

I've never had one. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it like?

It's like gasoline and a cow. Yep. Yep. Okay. Or like those buzzballs nowadays?

It's crazy what they have on the market for these kids. No. I'm out of the loop. So sad. So where do you see yourself in the next year?

“What are you hoping comes from doing this reality show?”

What are you hoping, you know, is in the next chapter for Swade? I mean, I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow. Let alone in five years. You sound like me. But I hate when people ask me that because I'm like, oh no.

I feel like I'm really live day by day and I think this show was an eye opener for me. I hope that I'm able to. I mean, hopefully if we do get a season two, I'm down. But the show was just like just to kind of see where I was on the playing field in a way. And within the next five years, I mean, I hope to build my own brand.

I eventually want my own podcasts just like you. Oh, yeah, I do a girl. You've definitely been such a big inspiration for me for sure. I appreciate that. But yeah, I mean, five years, I'm going to be 30.

I hope to have one of my next questions. Yeah. I mean, if I could get married enough, if I could have children now, I would. I'm at that phase in my life where I'm ready to settle down. Yeah.

There has been somebody in my life for the past like year and a half on and off that I really do care about. Is it somebody we know or it's somebody you know for sure. Really? 100% and he's a baby. Give us a hint.

I don't want to say anything. Say a name and we'll believe it. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I love that.

So yeah, he's a great guy. No, he's so sweet. I fucking love that. I love that. Did he know you were coming on the podcast?

You did. I told him this word. He's like. Oh, I love it. I know I'm sad because he's actually leaving today.

I was going to, I was like, fuck, I want to come. Yeah. I haven't so much fun. But yeah, he, I mean, even him. He definitely got me through all that Gemma stuff too.

Yeah. He's the first person I called. Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck do I do about this? It's cool.

It's going online. Please, Jason, believe that every time we say that he has dealt with so much shit online. That he was probably just like, thank you.

“But that's why that's why he was the first person I reached out to.”

Because I was like, I know you've gone through Helen back on the internet. Okay, so how does that work with the dynamic because you are so fucking tall? Yeah. Well, not. He's not, I mean, he's not short.

I'm, I'm six foot. Yeah. He's probably like five eleven. Like we're, we're like pretty much the same. But I'm in heels.

I'm like six too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like a tall glass of water. No. No, I've, I've stood next to him before plenty of time.

So yeah, yeah.

So he's, I mean, I feel like, I mean, I'm always taller than him.

No matter what, literally. But yeah, no, he's like literally my favorite person in the world. I love that. And I hope you guys really do settle down because he knows a good woman. And I feel like you're a good woman for him.

Yeah, I, I think he also is dealing with some demons that he's still needs to get through to.

But yeah, he was, he's, he's definitely somebody I would marry and have children with. I love that. Would you be willing to move to Nashville for him? Um, maybe on and off. Maybe like back before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm a professional baby.

Yeah, so he's, yeah, he's definitely my first round draft pick right now.

And we'll see. We'll see where it goes. Like I said, I'm not putting prime up in any pressure. Yeah. Anything on it right now.

Yeah.

“But I think also like he's getting to that age where he needs to like look in the mirror and be like,”

Oh, shit. Yeah, well, he is how old. He's fucking he's 47. Yeah, I was saying he's older than him. So yeah.

So I'm like, people, you don't have time seriously. Let's figure it out. You're like, before you start fucking shooting dust balls. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, another thing I have to get his fucking sperm tested. I know. Yeah.

You know, please, you never know these days.

Well, no, but I mean his age. They start it. I know. I'm so when when you're that eight, like I said when you're 47, I'm like, is it still alive? And they're like, are we doing it?

Have you guys had sex? We have. Okay.

“I was like, then yeah, then it should work.”

But the sperm. But still, yeah. Exactly. And like it could be a stale. Yeah.

It's like, he's like literally shooting powder blanks. Yeah. Let's definitely believe his name. Of course. Of course.

Just for like his sake and my sake.

But yeah, that's something that I like keep off the internet. And I don't plan on. Please do it because people will. Like, I want to pop out with a wedding meeting. Like, surprise me.

Yeah. I'm rooting for you guys. Yeah. I'm rooting for you guys. Yeah.

I'm rooting for you guys. Yeah. He's literally the best.

“And he's been through like so many situations that I've gone through, like just problems.”

Yeah. Negative things. He's really gotten me through a lot of that. So yeah, he's my little. My number one at least right now.

I like that. My number one drop picks. Yeah. I love that number one drop pick. I love it.

I have had so much fun sitting here with you. I feel like I could talk to you forever. My biggest bet. We're bonded for life now. No.

It's deep rooted. And I hope that I can come back. Yeah. I hope that you can come back. I hope that you can come back.

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