Welcome to Part 2 of Psalms with Brother Stephen Sharp Nelson.
Let's go to 51. 51 is really critical.
How do we remember Psalms 51? A very famous number for us is Area 51. Area 51 is where we keep things hidden. Things we don't want anybody to know about. What do we do with our sins?
We hide them. We don't want anybody to know about them. Area 51, we put our sins in Area 51. 51 is the beautiful Psalm of David. It's the Repentance Psalm.
Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness.
“John, you talked about Jesus' titles, is that not a great title, loving kindness?”
My sin is ever before me, and I want to put it in Area 51, but it's ever before me. Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, a broken and contrite heart. If you are struggling with something to repent, rather than beating yourself up and berating yourself, will you open up Psalm 51 and read it aloud?
And I bet tears will spring to your eyes, because you'll feel that God doesn't seek to tear you down, he seeks to lift you up. His atonement is not chains, it's wings, there's a beautiful resolution. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness. You'll feel God's love, I hope you feel God's love, pray until you do, but you'll
feel it. I think of times in my life when I've had Area 51 moments. I will share one with you.
“One of the worst times in my life, and I will never forget it, even though I feel”
like God has forgiven me for it, I will never forget it.
That was in a very stressed time in my life. Work was stressful, my church calling was stressful, my health wasn't very good, I wasn't getting enough sleep. All of these are this co-morbidity that we experienced is like what Elder Holland talks about in like a broken vessel.
He says often these things that are coming out are results of a concommon and effect is this cacophony of all of the things that we need to be addressing from a personal health standpoint. I was feeling all of that, just from a history standpoint, I had a father that had a temper, but I saw him completely overcome that temper when he was ordained to patriarch, which was the last calling he wanted.
He was ordained to patriarch and we had patriarch of blessings in the home. The atmosphere of our home changed.
He never showed his temper again after that day.
Now that may sound like, oh my gosh, that's impossible. He did it? I was a boy with a major temper because of my ADHD, I couldn't quite figure out why everybody looked fixed and I looked broken, I would lash out and I would crash out and I would rage quit and I would do all these things that were so maddening to people because I was trying
to come to grips with why I was broken, which I wasn't, but I thought I was. I overcame my temper after I saw my dad do it. This sounds weird, but I did it in the MTC. I hope you enter the MTC perspective missionaries with a good attitude because I will tell you I've never felt the spirit on a larger scale ever in my life than I felt it in
the MTC. Where so many people are coming together with the desire to learn and grow and strive to be like Christ at the same time. When I played Chelo when I was young, it sounded so screechy and horrible and my dad almost gave up on me, but you know what moment kept him going, it's when I played part of an ensemble.
All of us even though we were screechy and we were sounding dissonant, somehow all of us together sounded consonant and sounded harmonious. I think that tends to be what we do in the gospel too, we're all struggling and making wrong notes, but when we come together it somehow makes music.
“And that's what the MTC was for me and that spirit thrust the temper out of me and I overcame”
my temper. I thought I was good to go until I had children. The temper came back when I was in this moment of absolute abject, what do you call it? Just at the low point, my daughter just pressed that very right button and I yelled at her and I was rough with her and I saw in her eyes fear at her father and that was the
day I overcame my temper and front of my children and I read this song, have mercy upon me, oh God, according to my loving kindness, my sin, my temper is ever before me, create in me, a clean heart, oh God, and renew a right spirit within me and the spirit inspired me to go into my daughter's room. Then she was sobbing, I crawled into bed next door and I gave her a big hug and I said,
"I am so sorry, will you please forgive me?
To this day, it's one of the most beautiful moments of our relationship, instead of one of the worst moments of our relationship, thanks be to Jesus. If you find yourself in that situation, Psalms 51, cannot only help you feel connected to Christ in your weakness, but can also engender promptings that can help you out of the whole you feel you're in.
For me that time when I cradled my daughter and asked for forgiveness and of course she forgave me because she's Mozaia 3/19 already, she forgave me and said, "Oh, Dad, I
Daddy, I forgive you, and yeah, that was a powerful moment.
I wanted to be vulnerable in front of you, and if you've ever had moments like that, I hope Psalms 51 at least can be something of comfort to you." Thank you for that, Steve. I think everybody listening will say, "I've been there." Next this is four of five, we're almost there, you're almost an official Psalmist, you're
“going to get a badge, one 21, how do we remember one 21?”
The Psalmist talks about one hill, two eyes and one Savior. One hill, two eyes, one Savior, one, two, one. You can also think about it, you being one to one with the Savior, one to one. It's a scripture for help. This is why it's so important to memorize this one.
I will lift up my eyes, two eyes, unto the hills, by the way, an IV and every other translation
uses mountain, which I think is significant. We could say one mountain. I will lift up my eyes unto the mountains, from whence comeeth my help. I will lift up my eyes unto the mountains, from whence comeeth my help. That's such a cool, trust scripture.
I'll tell you a quick story that typifies this for me. Anybody that says they love Torah is lying through their teeth. I mean, Torah is so hard, yes, I love performing, but I don't love touring. David Samoney, our manager was also the Beach Boys Manager, and I know John your big fan of the Beach Boys, so this is a guy that knows his stuff.
“I went to him one day, I'm like, David, how do people do this?”
Like how do people tour for decades of their life?
Basically you get on a bus, you go to a venue, you sound check.
That sounds check sometimes has an audience, then you play a show, then you do a meet great afterwards, where you're talking to hundreds of people, then you get on that same bus and go to the next city and do it over and over and over again. He looks at me without a smile, he says drugs. And I was like, well, David, I'm not going to do that.
I mean, I said on a really rough day, I might do a mountain do, but that's as tough as I get. He says, well, but you asked a question and he wasn't joking. He says what happens is an artist innocently at first will take a little bit of a downer to get them to sleep because they're feeling anticipation of tour and nervousness.
Then when they get to the stage, they're too tired, what do they do? They take an upper, then they're too high on that and they adrenaline in the show, so what do they do? They take two downers. That's why it gets so horrible.
My point was on tour, I was so tired. The tired I was feeling was the kind of tired that was right down to the marrow.
“Her remember was on the side of the stage and we had committed as the panel guys that”
this wasn't just touring, we wanted to make it a ministry where we would hope that people would bring in their heaviness to our show and leave lighter. Our effort was to help people feel the spirit and let the spirit do the hefty lifting. I was on the side of the stage and I knew this was my ministry and I was saying my prayer, all I wanted to do was I wanted to crawl into the fetal position in the darkest corner
of that stage I could find and not talk to anybody ever again, because I was so tired and fatigued and burned out of being on all the time, on for sound check, on for performance, on for meeting Greek, over and over again, wed day after day after day, and I was setting on the side of the stage and I said, Heavenly Father, don't make me go out there. I can't do it, just before I turned around to find that dark corner, I had the coolest
moment. However, God speaks to you, will you please not assume that how he speaks to me is the same he needs to speak to you? For me, again he uses a little bit of humor and it's more of a voice that I can feel because I'm very dense and I need more obviousness than the little light hints and he knows
that. So I'm standing on the side of the stage just about to look for that dark corner and I hear this voice and it says, "Oh, my dear son, when have I ever given you the impression that it's all up to you?" You just go out there, you put one foot in front of the other and I'll take care of the rest.
I walked out on that stage and I sat down on that chair and for the whole night I felt
Floating, six inches off that chair, carried, strengthened, helped, from weds...
help come the mountain which is Jesus Christ, the mountain of the Lord is sometimes the mountain, the Lord himself.
He can move mountains and he can move himself and he can move me, it's just so incredible
to think about, we have this source of help but when is he ever given you the impression that it's all up to you? And if you are despondent at the side of whatever stage you're on and you're feeling
“to crawl into the fetal position, remember that he's never said that it's all up to you.”
You show up, you pray for his help and he'll help, he'll come, he'll come, Psalms 121. I love it, 121, it was 1, 2, 1. Yep. I love Sister Chieko Okazaki, she shared this in one of her books and I was like, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, what?
I found the January 96 issue of guide posts and I found the story of Captain James Ray who
was shot down in May of 1966 in his F155 Thunder Chief which I happen to know exactly what that gentleman looks like because I'm just weird that way but I love it. He's on the floor in a prison cell, he can only see out from under the door. This what makes me weep, the guards are walking back and forth and they can only communicate when the guards are at the far side but somebody starts to whisper, introducing themselves
in their names and their families and then this voice, Bob Perselle says, do you know any Bible verses? Imagine this. He says, I know the Lord's prayer, he says, everybody knows that. How about the 23rd Psalm?
“I think of a prisoner reciting the 23rd Psalm.”
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. He prepared the table before me in the presence of my enemies. These Psalms are bringing him comfort. He said, is the number of our prisoners grew to have a share of cell.
My first cellmate was Larry Chessley, a Mormon from Idaho.
Does it actually say that in there? That is so cool. He said, though we had a few differences of belief, our common denominators were the Bible and Jesus Christ and we were able to share and write down a great deal of scripture. It became vital to our daily existence, often wracked with dysentery, weakened by a diet of rice, thin cabbage and pumpkin soup, our physical lives shrunk within the prison walls.
We spent 20 hours a day locked in cells, those Bible verses became rays of light, constant assurances of God's love and care. We made ink from brick dust and water, or precious drops of medicine. We wrote Bible verses on bits of toilet paper, slipped them to others, dropping them behind loose brick in the latrines.
It was dangerous to do that. Communication was forbidden and anyone caught passing a note would be forced to stand with his arms against the wall for several days without sleep. One night I lay with my ear pressed against the rough wooden wall of myself. To hear some thump thump thump thump thump, and somewhere somebody was tapping in more
code, I W-I-L-L-L-L-I-F-T-U-P-I would lift up my eyes onto the hills from what's come up with my help. It was these songs they were tapping out to each other in more code, getting them through this time in prison. They were connecting to God that way, he scratched it on the floor with a broken piece of
tile, on the floor of his cell, I will lift up my eyes onto the hills. The thing that was just struck me is they weren't asking this new prisoner of war, who won the world series, they were saying, "Do you know any scriptures?" The one thing they were begging for was an English Bible. One night, a guard brought in an English Bible, and they started copying as fast as they
could in comparing what they had remembered. In sensing they were gathering strength from this, they came and took it away.
“But he says this great line, this great paragraph, from that we learned a most important”
lesson. Bible verses on paper aren't one Iota as useful as scriptures burned into your mind, where you can draw on them for guidance and comfort. Who would have more downcast eyes than a prisoner of war in a camp situation like that?
How far up would he have to lift his eyes compared to you and me?
That is the power of Jesus Christ.
That is an incredible story, and one that gives us some perspective as to our current
situations. That's beautiful. Thank you, John. The last Psalm is the easiest one because you already know it. It is Psalm 23.
It's the one that everybody knows how to I remember it. You can remember it however you want, but 23 is significant to me and this is why. I haven't Psalm yet. It can be debilitating at times. It is because of my overactive mind and my nervous system, which is a superpower, but it
also is kryptonite for me. If you are like me and haven't helped you if you are like I said, you often wake up at two or three in the morning. There is something about that time of two or three in the morning. I don't know what it is.
I find myself often awake at two or three in the morning.
“And this is what I've learned that instead of counting sheep, you should talk to the shepherd.”
Because if you're waking up at two or three in the morning, I guarantee God has something to say. Whether you talk with him then, which sometimes we don't want to because that'll extend our insomnia, but you can, and I've done it many times, or you ask him in the next morning when you're doing your devotional with him, what's going on with this two to three
wake up? Can you tell me, as my shepherd, what I need to be doing, or what I'm not doing, how I can help through this? So remember Psalm 23, when you are waking up at two or three in the morning, two or three in the morning, remember Psalm 23, the Lord is my shepherd.
I shall not count sheep. I shall not die. This is the valley and the shadow. I mean, this is the Psalm that everybody should memorize and it's so beautiful. I urge you to go into that and memorize as much as you can, but now you at least know where
it is, and you'll remember it. Even in the middle of the night, I will say that Psalm 30 verse 5 needs to be connected to it. Please. If you're waking up at two or three in the morning, this is a direct connection.
Weeping may endure for a night, but joy come within the morning.
“If you are stuck, will you please remember the Satan's favorite lie?”
The adversary's favorite lie is it won't ever get better. It will never improve. You are stuck. It is his favorite lie. Why?
Because we become angels to a devil like Jacob says in 2nd and you find nine. We're stuck. We're not progressing.
We're convinced that it's never going to get better, but we believe in a gospel of good things
to come. We believe in the high priest of good things to come, which is Jesus Christ. He said, fear not, be of good cheer. I have overcome the world. Come unto me, ye that are heavy laden, that labor and heavy let I will give you rest
from my yoke as easy my burden as light. Is it easy? What's a lot easier with them than without them? Weeping may endure for a night, but joy come within the morning. I've had times like that where the dark cloud is too cumulus for me to even hope past it
and even to be grateful for it. Just utter the one word prayer, just say help over and over and over again. And then listen, he will come to your rescue because he is your shepherd and you will know his voice when it comes to you. I'll tell you a funny story to light in the mood because we're getting a little too
serious here. You're a highland high grad, just like I am go Rams. Did you ever have Julie Hullit for Humanities? Absolutely. I do.
Don't you love Julie Hullit? I love Julie Hullit. I had her for history, well, she also taught boys Glee or something. Yeah. Yeah.
But I had her for American history, I think. Julie Hullit was awesome. I love her. I want to tell you something about creativity that relates to Julie Hullit experience with Julie Hullit.
I'm going to preface that by saying this. If we do not exercise creativity in our life, it will find its way out one way or another. Creativity that's not positively exercised becomes malignant. Let me say that again, creativity positive not positively exercises becomes malignant. What do I mean by that?
We start using our imagination and our creativity to make up false stories and to imagine
“the worst case scenario, we'll build grand castle-like frameworks around the worst thing”
that could possibly happen. Why? Because that's our creativity trying to get out. If we exercise it positively, our imagination creativity will have no room to create worst case scenarios that are just not possible.
I had a friend of mine say the other day.
I worry all the time, but 90% of the things I don't, I worry about never happen.
Wearing works. Hold on, wait a minute.
Just remember that if you're finding yourself overthinking and overanalyzing ...
worst case scenarios and telling yourself stories of what somebody said behind your back which they didn't, it's because you're not exercising enough positive creativity. It's a natural function of creativity, what trying to get out one way or another and becoming malignant. Why do I tell you that story?
Why does it relate to Julie Hullit? Well Julie Hullit was teaching humanities and she taught me this principle in a funny story. She's pulling up slides. We're doing art. You know, this is art history.
You got to memorize all of these pieces of art. She pulls up this modern piece of art and I'm not a huge fan of modern art.
“I think it has a place but I think sometimes it's about innovation rather than a set”
of system. I'm seeing this and it's this stark, roughly bucketed piece of canvas with splashes of red paint all over it and it just looked like a toddler was busy at work. She looks down and she says, this is called the shepherd and his sheep.
Then she analyzes it and with her incredible prolific imagination, prodigious imagination,
she says, you see in the top corner how this abstract representation of a splash could be the shepherd's call and then she interprets the painting and all of us are like, wow, how are you seeing in the image and in the lower corner you see the sheep's coming and we're just like, what? She hits the slide and the next slide comes up and it's a shepherd and three sheep.
She had mislabeled the painting and had described this modern piece of artwork based upon the false title of shepherd and his sheep and sped a great deal of time doing it. This is what we do in our life. We attach a label to something. We overthink it over analyze it, build worst case scenarios and get to the point where
we're not, it's no longer about art and creativity and joy and it's about getting caught in this mirror, this absolute mirror of overthinking. If you're caught in that cycle, remember the shepherd and his sheep and how young David, when he was growing up, he wasn't doing what his older brothers were doing. Where was he doing?
He was outtending the sheep. Can you imagine how pastoral his life must have been, how meditative, how simple, how clear it was, his purpose, rather than being grandly out for other people's approval and grand Israel, he was just tending the sheep.
“That's a beautiful way to look at life is okay, maybe I just tend my sheep instead of”
trying to win over this grand thing that I'm making into a worst case scenario. Now we move on to act three.
We're in the third act of our three act play here on the follow him podcast, ladies and
gentlemen. Let's the next contestant if you're the game show host, free prefrontal cortex like I am. What do we do with the Psalms as we become Psalmist, part of that is recognizing and utilizing the power of music and writing words in our own life.
Let's talk about the power of music, listening, learning and lifting. We can listen, learn and lift with the power of music. The first thing I want to do is open this up and I want to ask you as the listener. This question, I will ask you the question that I'm going to tell my story where you're thinking.
I'm going to use Psalms 1 26 5 and 6 is a great Psalm. They that so interes shall reap in joy. They that's so interes shall reap in joy.
“I want to ask you this question, where were you the first time music made you cry?”
Or if you're not a cryer at all, the first time music breathed life into you or picked
you up and dusted you off or compelled you to live more fully. Where were you the first time that happened? If you can remember, maybe you don't remember the first time, but they just tell me about the first time you remember and I'll tell you my story. I was 11 years old.
I was up in the second floor of our little home in the sugar house area in Utah. My father who was trying to encourage me to use my spare time for good would incentivize me. He was a very smart father. He said, Steve, I need your help.
I have a record that needs to be converted to cassette. Now none of us understand that except for John in this podcast, but what I mean to say is it was older formats of audio that needed to be updated. So the record, I needed to convert to tape and he said, I bet you're a techie guy. You know, you could figure that out.
I said, okay, he said, I'll even pay you to do it because my dad was just good that way. I went upstairs and I remember this little chest of drawers that had these little this opaquely off white painted drawers that were sticky when I'd open them up. Inside one of those, I found a tape deck that I could plug an RCA cable into from our record
Player and play the record and hit record and play it the same time.
I pushed play and record and I placed the needle gingerly on that record and the scratches began. And what I heard next changed me forever.
I heard the voice of an angel, a soprano, the likes of which I had never heard in my life.
It was so transcendent, so effortless as if it were upon the whispers of clouds. It lifted me to a new place. Tears sprung to my eyes for the first time in my life, music had made me cry and my heart opened. As an 11 year old struggling with the peak of our self-esteem junior high stage, yikes,
I felt one with who I really am inside that feeling has never left me sense. I said what is this music? I looked at the back of the record slip that the record had been in the jacket of the record and it said the soprano listed the soprano as Lynn Sanders. Now you don't know that name, my friends, but I did.
That was my mother's maiden name.
I had never heard her sing.
We discovered a brain tumor when I was two years old and robbed her of her voice. And as a child, I wasn't aware enough to ask my dad, "Hey, what did mom do before this brain tumor inhibited her?" What was my dad doing? Can you believe that?
That he found a way for me to connect not only with music, but to my angel mother. Who at the time I was recording from record to tape was in bed, struggling, was living the love charity, and mom, in my scriptures it says in charity instead of in charity it says, "And mom, suffereth long, and envyeth not, and is not puffed up.
Thinketh no evil, hopeeth all things, bareeth all things.
“Maybe you have someone in your life where you need to write their name above charity in”
my own I745. Maybe they're suffering long, why? Because my mother taught me a thousand sermons without uttering a word. That's just who she was, and watching my dad take care of her was the finest instruction of spirituality I could ever have beyond scripture.
Here I was having this moment of connection with the divine as Beethoven talks about I was raised to divine, facilitated by my mother's voice, which was now from the dust essentially, the dust of a dusty record. I played that over and over again. And the song of the righteous is a prayer and to me, but don't make a mistake that you have
to sing that song, you can be listening to somebody else's song, and it can be your prayer. It was my prayer that day, from that moment on I committed to God that I would praise
“him with music as my mother so effortlessly had done, to this day I'll never forget”
that feeling. So my question for you is when do the power of music find its way into your heart? Oddly enough, it was the Beach Boys. You're gonna laugh? No, I love this already.
There's a song to Beach Boys sing called The Warp of the Sun, and I had it break up. The lyric I think is the love of my life, she left me one day, I cried when she said, "I don't feel the same way." And in this line, still, I have the warmth of the sun within me tonight, and suddenly has you and was S-O-N.
Wow. I have the warmth of the sun. I had a page in my Franklin Day planner, this goes back to cassette tapes and LP records, that I would sometimes just turn to that page and read phrases from my patriarchal blessings and read phrases from his, to boying me up on one of them, said, "What more can he say
than to you," he half said. I remembered how many times in my blessing that the Lord was saying, "And I actually had on that page, Stephen, be still, and know that I am God, all fleshes in my hands." It was all there.
“I would go over those verses, and the Lord would say, "Have I already told you?”
What more can I say?" There's a line in O' Holy Night. There's a phrase, the thrill of hope, and Jesus' hope, and it's a thrill to know there
Is always hope.
Changes everything, that because of Christ, there's hope.
It's a thrilling thought, there's always hope.
And so all of those things together is my contribution to that question. Wow. I had a why I say approached me, who was suffering with scrupulousity. You leaders out there, you men and women that are offered a leadership position temporarily to lift others, please be so gentle and give grace to these situations.
It is so tricky to navigate. He cried to me and said, "I feel so guilty when I'm listening to music that is not tabernacle choir."
“I said, "Hold on, hold the phone, wait a minute, where do you get that from?”
Where does that expectation come from?" And we explored it and found that it was completely baseless. Sister Bonnie Park in General Leigh-Sidey Presidents, President Truth is truth no matter where it's found. The spirit is the spirit no matter where it is found.
If it's found at a beach boy's song, it's found in a beach boy's song. You be honest with yourself, you are the DJ of your own soul. You know what's helpful and you know what's hurtful. You don't have to pretend otherwise. You decide you work it out with the Lord, but he trusts you.
He trusts you work it out with him to make sure that the music you're listening to is not monophonic. Is not insist on upon one particular genre. That's like insisting on living in the same one room of your house the whole time because it's the nicest room.
No, live your life out there, explore every genre music you can, rule out things that chase the spirit away, bring in things that bring the spirit. The shortest distance between me and the spirit is the right song at the right time. I have found songs that have come out of nowhere. You've had that happen to you.
“I know you have where the song comes out of nowhere and you're like, are you kidding me?”
Really right now? This is exactly what I needed to hear. Now, I'll listen to that song with my ADHD hyper focus over and over and over and over again and tell it where's out it's welcome. It's good we don't have records anymore.
They'd all be scratched in my case because I just do that. But this is what I would advise. Here's a practical way of helping. We have an incredible opportunity with technology to be helped in the process of finding a good music.
It can be the reverse. If you turn on the radio, chances are you're going to be fed a bunch of garbage. But here's a way to use technology against itself and for your benefit. There is something called an every platform uses a different term, auto play on YouTube. I believe on Spotify it's called Smart Shuffle.
On Amazon it's called like my soundtrack or my station, here's how it works. I want you to pick out the song you want to hear in that moment, but make it a good one. This here's why you can go to Spotify Amazon or Apple Music and say create a playlist or smart shuffle or auto play based on this song.
Now here's what's cool about what happens.
I don't want to get weird you guys, but I do believe that there is angelic power that can overcome technology sometimes. We've seen certainly the other way. Anytime somebody presents a sunny school lesson, there's some kind of devilish power that tries to take over the technology, every time it doesn't work.
This worked five minutes ago, right? This worked five minutes ago. Why believe the opposite is true and I don't say that superficly, I say that with sincerity. I will listen to another haul and talk that I'd love and I will turn on auto play and I'll let it play.
And often as I'm doing and it's sort of my body doubling with ADHD, someone kind of working on something, somebody talking in the background, often it'll auto play to something I need to hear. I will play a song that is my favorite song in the moment and I'll put headphones in there, have it in the background and I'll say auto play based on this song and I choose
that song very carefully and auto play will bring song some which I've heard and some
of which I've never heard before.
I have seen this work wonders. I've heard a song come on where it's like, oh my gosh, that's exactly what I needed to hear. Give got a chance to create an episode where you can actually hear something you need to hear.
I'll give you an example of this. So I'm driving in my car and I use the smart shuffle and I'm heading to a meeting that I'm dreading. It's a really toughy.
“I believe we can pray for specific angels to come to our aid.”
I don't say this lightly what I've studied and what I've experienced in my life. You can say, God, I need help. I need a specialist. I remember one time when I was underprepared for a concerto I played, I said, God, I know that my mom was really good at showing up and just making it up.
Having the spirit lift her to a level of expertise and acumen that was not na...
told me that story can she come and help me somehow in that, enabled by the atoning power of Jesus Christ and that concerto I played flawlessly and I had never once played it flawlessly before in my life no matter how many times I practiced it.
“I believe that specific angels, people that are lost loved ones can come to our aid”
and know our rescue and that we can specifically ask for them. This is why we cannot be saved without them, they cannot be saved without us. Why do we want to learn family history? You can come up with a lot of reasons that aren't good enough for me but the reason for me is the more I know about my family history, the more I can call on specialists.
I didn't know my grandpa died early and I never knew him but I found out he was an incredible
public speaker through family history. When I go into a keynote, I'm nervous, I say, "God, send grandpa," "Elroy." Can you send grandpa, Elroy? I know he was really good at this and I feel him and you imagine in the next life when I never knew him in this life, do you imagine how much more connected I'm going to be with
him in the next life when I see him? Thanks grandpa for helping me out. Why doesn't Jesus come to our rescue every time because he wants to delegate that so that people on the other side of the veil can have the joy of being involved in our salvation and it's so cool, think about all the people you've done temple work for.
“Wouldn't they want so desperately to do something for you?”
I did this the other day, I'm writing my Broadway musical and I'm hitting major roadblocks, writers block like you wouldn't believe my friends. I actually do walking prayer because I'm ADHD, I walk pray a lot and out loud is really helpful. Speaking out loud, I say, "God, I know among the people I've done temple work for are
really good writers." Would you send one or two of them to help me through this writer's block? And I sit back down, this was so cool, it flowed, it flowed, it flowed, it flowed so beautifully at that point. And I felt divine aid and I could imagine the joy of these people that are like, you
know, when God created the plan, remember what he said, he said, "Who shall I send?" Don't you think there might be a microcosm there for us, as we say, you know, Hank Smith is praying right now and he really needs help with this, he needs help with this specific thing. And God's like, "Who wants to go?"
Is that a cool agency moment that your great grandfather who happens to be really good at the thing that you're struggling with is like, "Oh, oh, pick me!" That is such a cool thought. He's like, "Oh, I want to be there, I want to be there for my great grandson Hank." And maybe it's as you're walking out the door, he just gives you a little bit of a thought.
I just think there's so much more of that that goes on behind the scenes than we realized. But I'm going to switch it to my dad because he died prematurely of fascular dementia as well. And as he was going through dementia, he's sitting in the passenger seat. And I wrote a song for him.
It was an amalgam of fight song together with amazing grace.
Because my father taught me that when the fights of our life grow too fierce to fight on our own, you can turn them over to grace and let grace do the fighting for you. That was his legacy for me to teach me that. I'm driving in the car and I just say, "Play this song and then give me smart shuffle based upon it."
Well, after that song was done, guess what second song came up? That song that I wrote for my dad. And there he is in the passenger seat one of the last times I spent with him.
“The chances of that are zero, zero, but that's what came.”
And so I think it can happen. So if you're looking for a little boost on helping God to just inspire you with music, try that principle. I was thinking about your question, I thought of a couple of things. One, I don't know how old I was.
I had to be 13 or 14 when I listened to "Lame is a Rob."
For the first time, just the story of redemption.
It really moved me. It's probably a very common experience because it's a step below scripture, but it's right there. It's a good room in the house, like you said, Stephen. I also remember reading the words this had to be even further back.
I remember reading the words, and I had to be single digits. I had to be eight or nine years old. That was reading towards the words to there is a green hill far away of sitting a church, and they sang it for soccer at meeting, and I just sat and read it. I'm not sure why a little ADHD brain.
I read there's a green hill far away without a city wall, and I could see it. Where the dear Lord was crucified, who died to save us all. Oh dearly, dearly has he loved. We must love him too, and trust in his redeeming blood and try his works to do. I still remember, I had to be eight years old, but I remember reading those words, and
them having impact, I don't think I cried. The last time I cried was in the jazz loss to the bulls in 1998, but I think it does
Something very similar to crying is the movement.
Hey, did you ever sing that hand in the Jerusalem center?
The first time I ever went to the Holyland, we started singing, there is a green hill far away,
“and I just remember going, "Well, actually, it's right over there."”
It was, there is a green hill right next door. I was just so shocked that I was there, actually, it's just over that, oh my goodness, to be there and to think how close you were to it. Thank you for bringing that one up. That was the sacrament him I asked for at my mission farewell, still remember, because
I loved the message of it as well. Let's talk about music helping us with one of the biggest pain points of life right now, especially for parents, parents out there, grandparents that are listening. One of the biggest pain points is there are lots of testimony meetings where a grandparent will get up and lament over a lost child, a lost sheep, a sheep that is straight, whatever
term is used, leaving the church. The term is used faith crisis, and brethren, I would invite you to be on a little crusade with me, on trying to change, reframe faith crisis. I don't love that term. I'm without or Holland, he says, to have faith is to be in crisis.
So to single out people that are maybe taking more of a security route and finding other
journeys, I would say, let's say faith journeys to the faith crisis, sports can be powerful.
“We should all consider ourselves in some sort of crisis, and that's why I mean, he'd”
Christ. Instead of singling people out like we're not in crisis, you're in crisis, I think that it separates us and it delineates some kind of chasm between us. It's not helpful. But I want to tell a story of something that's really helped me with this, and I hope
it's helpful for people out there. It's the parable of the meat and great line. I want to share this in light of what it means in relationship to two pain points. Let's push pause on the parental pain point of a child that is taking an extended faith journey and let's go to another pain point that is often expressed to me, but relative.
I will have people that will wait in line two to three hours in a meet and greet line.
The first thing they say to me when they shake my hand after seeing the show after waiting
“that long is, oh, I'm so sad my child didn't keep up the piano or the cello.”
I'm so sad that I didn't do enough. It was a downer, you know, here I tried to play this show and me and greet line. I'm keeping my energy up as much as I can and somebody's like, I'm depressed. I'm like, oh, I waited in line to tell you. Yeah.
I didn't tell you what line that you failed. It's like, okay, thanks for coming, anything I would say would be so lame after that. It happens so many times that Alma tells me I can pray over my flock and this is the flock. I said, God, I'm struggling with this. It's such a downer, I don't know what to say.
Can you help? What came to me was really cool, really cool. And it relates to our pain point, our parental pain point that I was talking about. He said the next time you get to meet greet line, I've got you. He just said, you open your mouth, I'll put the words in.
I said, okay, I've seen that happen before, I'll try it again. A woman comes up to me and she says, I'm so sad that my son gave up the piano. I looked out kind of like, here's the moment and I looked at her and I said, every second your son spent at that instrument was worth it. Every second he was at that piano bench, expanded his mind, improved his confidence, increased
his self discipline, every second counted. She looked at me and as if she took this bird and offered shoulders and let it go. I know that sounds so silly, but it was such a profound exchange. From then on out, I have discovered so many things about this, it was so special. We had this wonderful moment.
I've used it countless times since then. Every second spent at that instrument counted and mattered and exercise both sides of the brain. I use that for people who have remorse over their own giving up at the instrument. Now let's put that into the pain point of a parent who feels like they haven't done
enough, a grandparent or a parent who feels like they haven't done enough for their child who's taking an extended fate journey. I'm talking to you, God loves you and loves your effort.
I can say with enough confidence that I would suppose and I would hope that i...
to God and said, oh, I wish my son or my daughter would have stayed in the church, he would
look at you and said, every second they spend in that pew mattered and counted and enriched
their life forever more. And here's where it gets especially good. Let's look at Psalm 78 for seven. It's a day that might set their hope in God and not forget the works in God. I'm going to relate this to Proverbs 226, which is the pain point.
Train up a child in the way he shall go and he will not depart from it. That can't be true in every case. This is another way you can read it. Train up a child in the way he shall go and it will not depart from him. Every second you read scriptures, every second you attempted it failed come follow me, every
second you insisted they were in that pew, every second mattered and counted and will never
leave them. The last thing I will say to that is this, if your definition of family success or success as a parent or grandparent is predicated, contingent upon something you can't control, you will never be happy.
“If your definition of success is a parent or grandparent is dependent upon something”
you cannot control, you will never be happy. Instead, what if your definition of success was I love my child and they know it. Based your definition of parental, grand parental or family success on something you can control and your life will change. That was wonderful, Stephen, it shall never depart from him.
There's a word that occurs commonly over and over again in the Psalms and it's Selah. Selah is significant why because Selah means pause. To me, Selah is the Psalms version of the Pharmata. Pharmata in music, for those that you can't see in our listening, it's like a arc that's over a dot, so it looks like a bird's eye, kind of.
What does that mean when it's placed over a note? It's actually my favorite musical symbol. Look at the conductor. Yes, hold, it means hold that note and the greatest thing about it is it's up to the artist's discretion to decide or the conductor's discretion on how long that's held.
All of a sudden it's in your hands. Even if it's God music, all of a sudden it's like how long do I hold this? It's beautiful because this is where we come back to Mozart, too. Mozart said that music is not in the notes, but is in the space between. I would say that the Psalms, the meaning of the Psalms isn't necessarily in the words.
It's in the space between. That's between you and the Lord and how you burn them into your mind like we talked about and how you become a Psalmist yourself and how your experience has become your Psalms, your stories, your parables.
“I would also say this, I have discovered that life is not in our expectations, but in the”
space between them. We often have these expectations that are imposed upon us or self-imposed that come from a system or a person and when those are not met, we feel this tension. It's a tension between human time and divine time. We're in living in abundance and that can create a sense of control over our outcomes.
So when an outcome doesn't come about the way we want it, we feel not only like it's broken, but it's betrayal, that's where our trust issues come from. The direct and siled this, expectations in this world can be held lightly while faith anchors
on the belief that ultimately resolution and deliverance will occur, but on God's terms.
President Nelson's expect miracles, let's think about that. It's teaching encourages an openness to divine intervention, but not entitlement to a specific timing or form. Often if you are caught in the expectations rather than the space between, you may feel unhappiness in your life.
Remember Salah, which is pause, be still, the framata is on you to hold that as long as you can or want, but also remember the symphony is the Lord's, the tension between our time and God's divine time is tense indeed. But this is what I would say is, look at the space between the expectations in your life. Find meaning there, find happiness, find joy, find solace, find stillness in space between
the expectations. And that's what Salah is to me. This has been fantastic.
“I have pages of notes, John, have you just been trying to jot down these wisdom?”
It's really good. He doesn't even let us know that it's coming.
He just says this very insightful, profound thing and moves on and like we'll...
Hold on. Let me write that down. Yeah, let us know when you're about to change everything, change your whole paradigm. Before we let you go, give us a last note. Hey, see what I did there.
What do you want our listeners to remember?
“I think I'd like to talk about something that is sort of an unfinished subject in a lot of”
our lives. I have discovered that there are no unanswered prayers. There's only unfinished prayers. I remember while ago I was in the middle of an interview. We had had so many interviews at the outset of the piano guys because people were scratching
their heads. They're like, why are the piano guys successful? These guys are not rock stars. They don't fit the mold. You know, nobody's pinning their pictures up in lockers anywhere.
Like, who are these guys? But we got the question a lot. How have you been doing this? What if people want to do what you're doing? Those people out there that are also nerdy like you are.
How could they do what you're doing? What advice would you have for them? And that was a lot of pressure. And I felt like I just spit out platitudes. It's like, well, practice hard.
Work hard. Live your dream. It was so nauseating. I remember one day I started into that. And it was this liberal publication.
So I was really being careful about spirituality, which I'm not anymore, by the way, because people criticize you no matter what you say, you might as well be yourself. I'm just myself. So I just expressed my testimony whenever it feels natural and not overbearing. And I said, you know what?
“The only advice I could give is the only way we've seen that's worked in our lives.”
The only explanation we have for us success. And it's a quote by a man named Ezra Benson. And I quoted for Batem, the quote that John is just about to read for you. President Ezra Tath Benson said, men and women who turn their lives over to God will discover that he can make a lot more out of their lives than they can.
He will deepen their joys, expand their vision, quicken their minds, lift their spirits, multiply their blessings, increase their opportunities, comfort their souls, raise up friends and pour out peace.
First off, if you are asking the question, how do I turn my life over to God, you are
already doing it. You've already started. Your feet are on that path. In closing, I want to recite my favorite song and my favorite words from him. I'm going to close that and it has to do with feet on the path.
You have feet are already on that path, number one. Number two, what to do next? I will say that the reason why it's hard to express this and why we shy away from the how is because it's different for everyone. It is personal.
It's between you and the Lord. If we go all Instagram influencer on you and explain exactly for me how to do this, it's actually might hinder you more than it'll help you. Because that has to be between you and the Lord. However, I don't want to disappoint you with a answer that is a deflection.
I would love to offer at least what worked for me in hopes that it will help you take
the next step after the first step of asking, take the next step.
There was a great talk, President Oaks gave, called Good Better Best. The inspiration for what I'm about to tell you is derived from that. However, there's a very personal spin on this. When we hear a talk like that, sometimes we feel the pressure and I love this. When we were talking about this talk in Elder's Quorum, I hit one of my good friends
Mike.
“He raises his hand in Elder's Quorum, he's like, "Can I get something straight here?”
You guys are all talking about Good Better Best, but there's a lot of us who are really struggling just to get to Good." And I really related to that, put aside the scrupulosity, put aside the toxic perfectionism. I know how that feels. I grew up in classical music for heaven's sakes, put aside all that.
I want you to clean the slate, will you clear your mind and start over with me? Start instead with simply your relationship with God. Let's start there. I worked with my YSAs on this, there's so many expectations where you got to do this. You got to do that.
You got to fill a calling, you got to get married, you got to go to school, you got to get a job, put all of that aside, I want everything off the plate, and I want one thing only on that plate, and that's you and your relationship with Jesus start there. Now, do we turn our life over to someone like Jesus? Well, we've got to get to know him, we've got to talk with him.
This is the beginning of the journey of turning your life over to God. The reason why Collette Good Better Best is because I don't want to place an expectation on you that every day is going to be a hit record.
Just like every song I write will never be a hit, and every baseball swing will never
be a home run.
Every day you try to turn your life over to God will not be best, but it'll b...
And there are some days when good is good enough.
“Pick your favorite book of Scripture, and I would strongly suggest that this be the”
Book of Mormon. Why? Because it's the book that draws us near us to God, it's the book that says Jesus the most, and it's the book that talks about Christ the most, it's my favorite book. I would strongly recommend that you use the Book of Mormon.
The Book of Mormon is a conversation starter with God. That's it. Let's start there. What we're going to do is we're going to have a piece of paper out, or a computer screen, or an iPad, I'd hesitate using your phone because there's so many distractions.
A keyboard's better. Do you write or type? You decide that.
You need to be write or type.
And this is where the solmist comes in. If we're not writing enough, it's just not going to work. I want your planner out, your calendar out. But I want everything that is your life, you're on, it's on the table. This is your life we're talking about.
We got our Book of Mormon open. And you say an out loud prayer to God, and you pour out everything. This is not a nourish and strengthen or a moisture prayer, okay? I know those are great prayers, but this is a real dig into it prayer. Cast your burdens on him, pour out your thoughts, ask him for help, say it out loud because
you won't wander. Then you go to the Book of Mormon. When you start reading, it could be where you left off. It could be an open page to random. It could be in come follow me, whatever you want to do.
Open the Book, start reading. When a word or a phrase or a verse stands out to you, could be one verse, could be two verse, could be three verses. When it stands out to you, that's God signaling I want to talk. I'd love to talk.
Then what you do is you've opened the door, and now I want you to type and write until there's nothing left in that ink in that pen, nothing left in your fingers.
“That first paragraph will likely be garbage, that's how I write music, too.”
It might be stream of consciousness, you're just right, and pretty soon it'll get really good. And the things you talked about in your out loud prayer, it could be maybe about the scripture you just read. It might not be.
It could be about something you're struggling with mentally. It could be at something you're trying to repent of. It could be at somebody you're trying to love. Whatever impression comes to you at that point, I want it out on the paper and out in that writing, just go, go, go.
Then when you get to the end, and you think there's nothing left, I want you to pull an Elder Scott, and I want you to say, is there more? And the flood gates will often open at that point, and you will have a conversation with God and begin turning your life over to him, asking him, what do I do today? How do I do to turn my life over to you, and he will tell you, this I have described
is the best scenario. It will not happen every day, but good and better will support best. What do I mean by that? If you're having a rough day and all you do at the end of the day, all you do throughout the day is listen to the Book of Mormon on audio as you're driving.
That is good, and some days that's good enough, start there. Better is you're opening it up, and you're underlining a few things. You're pondering over it. You spend 10, 15 minutes, maybe longer. That's better.
Good, better best. Best is what I've described, the out loud prayer, followed by this writing session where you're working with God to glean revelation for your own life. That is how I've discovered how I can turn my life over to God.
“He has given me insight after insight on those best days, which honestly for me are once”
or twice a week, if it's a good week. Those best days, they elucidate so much for me and expand my mind magnify me so much. You'll find yourself in the work that God has for you to do, and miracles will happen and you can expect them to. That's beautiful.
I have never been disappointed by the Book of Mormon.
I just want to add that testimony to yours, that's where that connection can really start and grow and continue to thank you for that. Even your whole life to God, put it on the table, literally and figuratively, and let Him direct your life for your good, and that's turning your life over to God. You can do it every day, but remember it's not going to be best every day and give yourself
grace for that. Good, better best. I can already see that the things I've written are going to have serious impact on the way I parent the way I think, the way I treat my wife. My desire to go to the temple has increased.
His favorite lie is things will never get better, and I'm going to change my diet no more rehash browns. Yeah, no more rehash browns. Stephen, thank you. Thank you for being part of follow him.
Thank you so much. I just want to end you with my favorite him. My favorite Psalm ever is Psalm 119. Thy word is a lamp under my feet and a light under my path.
Jesus is real.
He is so real.
He loves you and wants to connect with you and spend time with you.
“That's what he's after, and I promise you can attain that.”
But remember this, lead kindly light, amidst in circling gloom, lead thou me on, the night is dark, and I am far from hope, lead thou me on, keep thou my feet. I do not ask to see the distance seen.
One step is enough for me.
As you end this podcast, don't worry about the distance seen, take he no thought for the moral for the moral shall take thought for itself, even if the night is dark and you're far from home, he will lead you on.
“What I hope we've gleaned from this is that Jesus has not only inscribed on us on the”
palms of his hands, he has inscribed us on the Psalms of his hands, because the Psalms of him and your personal Psalms can be from him if you turn your life over to him. I bear my testimony that Jesus is the great deliverer, is the great advocate and his loving kindness is supreme. We love you, Stephen Sharpe, thank you, love you back as we do.
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