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The Breaking Bad Episode

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Today at our house, Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul are the ones who knock. If you’ve seen Breaking Bad you get that reference. If you haven’t seen Breaking Bad, I think you’ll still e...

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♪ Breaking, breaking bad ♪

♪ Breaking bad ♪

♪ Just the end while we came and had a last ♪

♪ Just you all, pigment in the watch ♪ ♪ What's left, what's your wife, what the fuck ♪ ♪ See you next week in this week ♪ (audience laughing) - You do guys think that they're gonna be shocked

to see a twin? (audience laughing) - Here's the twin. - It smells so good. - I'm the twin.

- I'm Jesse Pankman. - Yeah, I'm Jesse Pankman. - So, yes, so... - So, you guys feel like you're excited? - I feel embarrassed.

- I don't feel embarrassed. - No, I feel good. - You look kind of normal. - I feel like we're linering Ron and something that deserves to be honored.

- She looks like Billy I would've had it. - I feel like I had it, I feel like I had it too. - I feel so. - Check, you look, this is the best you've ever looked.

- I think it's 'cause I'm a little tired.

- It's so tan, I like this outfit. - I wish I could wear this outfit. - My outfit's so chill too. - Do you guys like mine? - Yeah.

- I love your outfit. - It's kind of all of our outfits. - I know. - I'm kind of happy. - Do you think that they're, sorry,

what we're saying? - I don't think they're gonna like what we're doing. - You don't think they're gonna like what we're doing? - Yo. - Here's my...

- Yeah, let me do a Jesse Pankman impression. - Get off me, yo. Like, Mr. White, I can't. - That wasn't bad. - Wasn't terrible.

- I'm not gonna break bad. - I'm nervous. I'm gonna stay good. - Speaking of staying good and being nervous and the breaking bad men and New Mexico.

- Yeah. - You know how I like to spend time on Airbnb when there's nothing to do and I browse all the homes. - Yeah, I think, man.

- You guys, I send it to you, Dave, but I don't think you checked your phone. Look at this home. I think we need to go here. It's called the Spectacular Earthship.

- This is on Airbnb. - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - I think you can go.

- Do you wanna stay in the Earthship with me?

- Look, I think you can go right after. And we could do antique shopping. - We should have done this in New Mexico with them. - I'm so nervous. - Are you?

- I'm not nervous, but I'm like, it excited, nervous.

- Seeing both, I've never met either of them.

Seeing both of them together is just going to feel almost like I think. - I was feeling like it's, I'm in the show. - Hey, check out that. - How's that feel?

- I don't want to answer. - You go first, you go first. - You go first. - You go first. - You go first, you go.

- Have you ever lived in Venice? - No, West, West, LA. - Oh. (laughing) - Come on in.

- Look at the hell, man. - Come on in. - It's not just me. - You are the best show I've ever made. - Brilliant.

- You have such a focus. - I'm sorry, what? (laughing) - This show changed our lives. - I would have been so pissed.

(laughing) - Wow, nasty. - Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. (laughing) - Cheers.

- Cheers. - Do you hate this or is this okay? - No, I'm not gonna lose me. - Wait, it's great to see you. - I'm Kristen.

- I'm Kristen. - I'm Kristen. - I started traveling like this. - Isn't it cozy? - I'm excited.

- I'm excited. - She looks me too soon. - Yeah, really. - Yeah, I'm excited. - I might, I might wear this for you.

- You represent that very well. - Yeah, you do. - I really do. - I'm having a lamb. - You look great.

- Are you stuck? - You were stuck. - You really have a heart. - I'm stuck in your stuff. - You're stuck in your stuff.

- I'm barely stuck in your stuff. - But it's the biggest sock I have.

- Okay, well, at least it's exactly what I did on the show.

- Yeah, well, you guys think in a big little sock? - When you were in, when you were in the Indies where you think in like, man, I hope they don't get a weird shot at this. - I'm already in my underwear.

- You should've told them. - This is giving the public what they want. How many times have you been in your type of ways? - You're with Malcolm and you were a lot. - You were a lot.

- Yeah. I joked that my agent was aware of a nudity clause but he thought it was that I wanted to be here. - I was like, so he was fired. - Come on man, come on man.

- Come on man. - You guys, we brought you some treats. - We brought you some treats. - We brought you some treats. Thanks for having us great place.

- Thank you. - Is this the treat? - This is the treat. - This is the treat. - I feel like it's gonna be someone's head.

- Yeah, yeah.

- So, this was your first spot.

- Yeah, it was my first home that I ever owned and then we met Kristen and we fell in love and COVID in this home and, wow. - And it looked just like this. - And he looked just like that.

- Yeah, yeah. - And he fell in love. - That's wild. - Yeah, you look good too. - Oh yeah, you look great.

- You look good. - Thanks Benny. - You look like the stylist, the most stylish version of what that outfit can look like. It's like, I know, these are like the expensive versions

of those things. You look very, you look very, you look good. - You look good. - You look good, yeah. - You look fancy.

- You're a voicious crafts. - You look like a national talent. - You know. - I'm younger than I am. - You kind of get a coffee.

- You look good. - Yeah, I'll look good. - Do you have some? - Yes. - Do you guys dress yourselves in these outfits?

- Sorry, I'm just noticing the giant ball set.

- Oh yeah, that's just a mess.

- Yeah.

- Yeah, that's a great thing to keep.

- That's a premiere show.

- Yeah, because first one I thought, it's a winematch.

- I love the show, but I know the way. - I know that. - I love the show. - Okay, I love, you're guys the show. - Thank you.

- I love the show more.

It's the best show I've ever seen in my life.

- Thank you.

So the first time I ever saw a breaking bad was the season finale.

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year was that 2018? 13. 13. 13 is when it ended. Okay. So then I live my life. COVID hit. Okay. And I say I have to watch all the best shows of all time. And I look up. I say best shows of all time. I had already seen a few of the shows. Wire, Sepranos. Yeah. And there was like a battle going on for the best shows. And it was you guys, Sepranos, the wire. And I said, I got to put this on. I put it on. From the second, I started it. I did not stop. I was, well, because there was, there was COVID. It was the exact start of COVID. Yeah. And then I just watched it all over again with my wife. You've never seen it. Just right. And like did more this second time. Oh, and I love the coming to a room like and be like, and I'm good.

You know, like, do all the little like things. You know, the guy who rings the bell. What's this thing? Solomon. Yeah. I do. He lectured. He lectured. Solomon. Like do you guys ever watch it? I haven't seen it since it aired. No. Oh, I watched it. We did. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's going to see what they did, what takes they did. And putting it together. And we appreciated. But we had to move on. You know, we got another one. And the other one. Yeah. And I, I would watch it again. I haven't seen it since it.

13 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And I would watch it again. But I'd like to watch it like what you were talking about with someone who hasn't seen it. Yeah, it'd be kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Does this look familiar? Yes. I've seen the pilot. The pilot probably 100 times. I read this. The pilot script like 100 times. And it's great. The best written pilot. What's so great about Vance is he always like we had such an incredible writer's room, but then Vance always does his polish and he is talking to the readers. He is talking to the people that are reading it. So he's talking to the cast.

He's talking to the crew. You know, he references some of the people in the screen. It's amazing. It's so like for trying to write and learning to write. It's like the perfect example of like how to capture all of like the cinema, like the cinema, even the descriptions are so cinematic. Yeah. When I read it and I was offered the role. Our daughter was just about to enter high school. It's a very critical time. Yeah. And this was shooting in New Mexico. Oh yeah. So I gave it to my wife and I said, I want you to read this. I've just been offered it after. And she knew about it, but she hadn't read it yet. And I said, just know it shoots in New Mexico.

She goes, okay. And she starts reading. And I would peek in to see because I knew it was so good. Yeah. You know, and she's flipping and going. And because that's it's you can't stop just like the show. Yeah. And she went all the way through and I knew when she was getting at the end and I'm peeking around. And she finished the last page. And she looked at me through it over the bed and said, shit. She knew I had to say you're going to be gone for. And then I had to spend six, seven months in New Mexico.

So you guys lived, you both lived there during there. Yeah. I mean, it was about six months. You married when that happened. No, I met her very early on very, met Lauren very early on. Well, he went through a couple girlfriends that I met. Wow. I mean, a lot of them. Yeah. Well, just because there was, yeah, there was, yeah, there was.

So you met there. You met her. You met her a season two. I met her season three. Oh, my God. So you see, so it's before the show sort of really took off. Yeah.

You talk about, what's the deal with that? Didn't it like take three seasons to get to the level popular in terms of the serve?

So so what happened was first season, we were incredibly proud of it.

You know, we did seven episodes. We were cut short. Yeah, too, because of the writer's strike. Yeah. But the critics loved the show. Yeah. We were only getting, I think, at 700 or 800,000 at the most in the season one. Why is it people like really watching the show? Yeah.

When it really exploded was we landed three seasons on Netflix just while we ...

And we were actually, believe it or not, but we were the very first new bingeable show ever. And just wow, ever. Which is crazy. What also helped is that they had very recently just switched on. If you remember the red envelope. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We're sending a movie that we're talking about.

And it's that stopped and it's just streaming. And then that's what really helped because then people could watch and get addicted to it. - Yeah, I remember the first time I heard of Netflix. My friend, when I was a kid, when I was,

I wonder when Netflix came out, probably when I was like 14, maybe 30 years. - I think yeah. - Something like that. I just remember, I just remember my friend would get movies in the mail and then he was like, "We get any movie we want,

"and we just ship it back." - It was so cool. - And I was like, "What are you talking about?"

And he was like, he's like, "We never have to go to Blackbuster again."

- That was that cool. - What do you mean it's amazing?

You have to go to Blackbuster, right? - Blackbuster, right?

- I don't know, I remember though thinking it was so cool. - For sure. - I remember being really like, not impressed with the business model. - And thinking like, I don't know if this thing's gonna work, obviously I'm totally wrong.

And thinking like, is it really that convenient to have this thing to tell anyone I can just go to. I wouldn't even want to pressure it to pick it out in advance and be organized like that. - We used to take our daughter, it's like,

"You get to select one, it mommy and daddy will select one." Okay, one candy and it was like, it was like a fun event. - It should bring movie theaters. - Oh, talk about it. - I know. - It's a little bit of a bit of a institution. - I know. - I felt like cousins who are kids,

and I talk about movie theaters because they haven't had what we had growing up. Like they look at movie theaters as like, we're like, "Oh, movie theater."

Like I would never, those places are a movie.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Do you guys notice when like how everyone's TVs are on the wrong mode? - Oh, yeah. - Do you notice like, it's too crisp.

- It's too crisp. - It's too crisp. - It's too crisp. - It's too crisp.

- So you can reset that. - It's for live sports.

- So all the TVs come to set. - Yeah. - For like, it's a live sport. - Yeah. - And it turns every cinematic thing, any TV show, any movie, it's looking like it's a soap opera. - Or it's not like everyone's been rendered.

Like it looks like it's like not the final action. - Yeah, so it looks totally good. - And then truly, and like the common man or woman, I feel like really doesn't even notice. - So it's like, but just so hard to see.

- Here's the common man. - Exactly. - Oh yeah, yeah. I rewatched the wire when we were shooting breaking bad. And I put it on my TV, I'm like,

why does this look so crisp? - It's like shit. - It's like it was filmed on the phone. - It's so phone. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And then I was able to reset the settings. - I'm gonna taste the mask out now. - Yeah, tell us about the inception of this. - Yeah, what did you guys start thinking? - Yeah. - We didn't work.

- We didn't work on this for a close to a decade. - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, we've been out on the market July 9th will be seven years.

But I guess, honestly, I just love this guy so much.

He's truly, truly my best friend in the world. And yeah, we just really hit it off with breaking bad.

And I'm like, this guy, I always say it.

He's the hardest worker in the world. - Thank you, man. - No, he really is. He is just the best, but also the most immature person you've ever made.

- The most immature person you've ever met in your life. - It's just such a great combo. It's just that Elevator picks like, "Why?" - Yeah, we did it. - Yes. - I missed him.

- And three years ago, three years post the finale breaking bad. He was doing a play in New York. I was doing a show and we caught up and had sushi together. And he pitched me as I do think it's too soon

to do another show or a movie or-- - I go, I think it's a little too soon. And we started spipp on ideas of what we could do together. - Yeah, sushi meal. - Yeah, yeah.

And then out of no, I never thought I'm starting a booze company, and I go, what do you think about booze? And he laughed at me, thinking I was joking. No, man, I'm being serious. What do you think about Nascale?

And he almost did a spit take. He goes, the shitty spirit with the dead worm at the bottom of it, oh yeah. No, man, that's not how they do that anymore. 'Cause he had a terrible experience with Nascale.

- So I was my introduction. - Back in the day. - Of course. - Yeah, it was like a dollar and a quarter, something that was awful.

- What's the worm do? - It was like worm, like-- - It's actually back in the day. They wanted to not have people confuse with Tequila and Mascale.

And so they just literally put a worm on Mascale. - It was also, it's like-- - Ooh. - The show, wow. - But typically it was very, very shitty Mascale.

- We didn't have options back then. - So this has been out for over six years. - We're just launching our Tequila. - Yeah, I got some left. - You can drink this.

- It's just like you. - This smells like-- - Wow, thank you. - Now smell this. - Now smell ham.

- That's a little bit-- - It's a little bit. - I just rub that skin like this, like a leathery.

Not in a bad way.

- Oh, look at that.

- Which one, which one do I get?

- Baker. - Give me one of those. - Look at that. - You guys ready to cook a little. - Yeah, you wanna go.

- Like, are these cousins, they related to Tequila and Nascale?

- The Tequila is Mascale. Just a little sip. - Mmm. - Cheers. - Cheers.

- Thank you guys. - It's an honor to have you here. - A true honor. - It was great to be here. I'm such a big fan of--

- Is this an extra surprise? - Is this an extra surprise? - Thank you, I'm happy to see you. - Are you seeing us? - Oh, I love it.

- I love it. - Oh, I love it. - You're a man. - If you do, if you do. - I had to get our social media.

Look, I didn't even know what's going on in the world. - She doesn't. - She can't be in the comments. - I know about a few things things to see in it. - Ow, that hurt.

- He can't have. - Oh, wow. - But actually hurt, it did feel like something. - Oh, it's true. - It was true.

- It was true. - Oh, it's movie magic glass. - It is? - Yeah, it should have hurt. - Yeah.

- Everybody's okay. - I thought that was the first thing. - I thought that was the first thing. - Yeah, let's do that with this. - It did hurt a little bit.

- I want to break something. - I want to break something. - I got a bunch of movie magic glass. - Yeah, you got it, you got it, you got it. - You got it, you got it, you got it.

- I got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. - You got it, you got it, you got it. - I got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. - It did hurt a little bit. - I didn't want it to do this for so long.

- Yeah. - I actually have, in a nice way, in a gentle way. - I don't know, you got it. - You're gonna break that over my head.

- Or a malicious way, but I've always wanted

to break a beaker over your head. - Do it. - It doesn't hurt. - It just hurt. - Chastise you, wait, you just shot off.

- It's like, it's, it's, it's so huge dare. - It's so, it's so long.

- Is that so, right here, you want to hit your one?

- Give me a hug, let me do it, give me a kiss. - Okay, wait, now he gets to do it, don't get it. - You're so sweet. - Make sure it's actually not real bad. - Okay.

- Only one of them has real come out. - Am I nice bleeding? - Just a little. - Oh, yeah. - Look at what you guys, he's out right here.

- Oh, this is what I'm telling you. - I'm telling you. - I'm telling you. - I don't know if we haven't been here. - I'm so sorry.

- I'm so sorry. - It's all right. - Oh, I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry.

- It's all right. - Oh. - I'm so sorry. - It's all right. - I'm so sorry.

- I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry.

- It's all right. - Oh. - Did you know that they brought this one back? - They did. - Back by popular demand.

- Why does it smell shit back? - Oh my God. - This is the best smelling thing I've ever smelled in my life. Oh my God. I use to have an ice cream, like a shirt, like this,

when I was hit in Upstate New York with my grandma. And she's dead. It literally just brought me back to this. - By any two cans of olive pop and store, and they'll pay you back for one.

Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkolypop.com/FKS. - Oh my God, this is memory lane. White claw time. - Say yes. - Speaking of saying yes, Benny, Benny is distracted towards you

because we did have a group chat about how you were gonna help my voice sound better. And I think it now was a really good time. - Are you trying to be more spontaneously hanging out right now? - We're spontaneously hanging out.

And right after this, we're gonna go, and we're gonna take me to the studio and you're gonna make my voice sound better. - I love this drink. - This is exciting. - It's hard to tell you with flavors.

- It's white claw. So it's her word. - She called it a little more. - Say yes. - Well, that was cool. - Say yes. - Yeah.

- Can we talk about David? - I mean, I did eat one of these earlier. - I know when your arms are looking. - No, I think these are really good. I know. - These things provide strength.

- The most strength check. You need to start eating them. So you're back, doesn't deteriorate. - I did like it. It's like good.

Well, I had the chocolate. I had the chocolate cookie dough. - Chocolate cookie dough is amazing. - Yeah. - Blueberry pie is amazing. Red velvet is amazing.

I get stronger after lift weights too. - You might want to look at it. - You might want to do both. But check the profile so good. That's 150 calories.

20 grams of protein and zero sugar. Literally, zero sugar. - I don't even know so much about. - Home America will start to grow. - David is available at Walmart's stores nationwide

and on Walmart.com. You can try a single bar for only $2.97. Go grab one for yourself. - How long have you been married? - Almost 13 years.

- So give us, because we're all newlyweds. Give us, you each give us one, how do you do it?

- So the best thing is to think of the five,

most important things you want in your partner.

- Yeah. - Okay, it might be, well, fidelity and humor and moral center or someone like decent person. Maybe someone, you know, is it, is it intelligence, is it? Well, whatever, is it your physical attraction?

What are the five, right? - Yeah. - Pick those five and let everything else go. - Yeah. - I love that.

- That's just because it's your, just let it go.

Like, there are certain things around the house

that my wife and I will never see eye to eye on.

It's just like, tell me one of them. - Oh well. She is, she is very neat and together person, but she's not an organized person. So I like to have things when I go to my refrigerator,

I like to know where things are. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Me too. - And I was like, I pulled out like five open jars

of mayonnaise one time and I'm like, - I'm like, okay, there's so much mayo. - That can say, yeah. - Too much mayo. - And the, and the refrigerator is stuffed

with five different mayo and six different this and seven, you know, it's like, and so I said, how about condiments in the floor? - That's cool. - That's cool.

- And the whole, yeah. And salad dressing and that stuff, it'll be. And, you know, it's just hard for her. So she goes up, she gets it and she puts it back. - Yeah.

- It could be a top shelf, it could be bottom shelf, it could be hard for me and you.

One thing we'd see eye out on and on in our relationship.

- You're telling me, you guys put everything back when you take it out, you put it exactly. - Exactly, exactly. Put it back before it, and all the labels have to be facing forward. - Are you on your birthday?

- March. - March, two. - You? - March, one. - Seven. - Eight.

- Oh my God, you do. - Oh, let's go. - Yes, please. - Prices. - Fifteen.

- Fifteen? - Yeah. - Prices, you're burning. - You're burning seven. - Oh, you're burning seven.

- Yes, you're burning. - You're burning. - Me? - My mom's very good too. - Yeah.

- I'm very organized. - Yeah. - I'm a little acidity. - But I think, yeah, with me, it's just all about - Well, communication.

- Yeah. - Patience and just understanding one another. Each of you, everyone's so different, right? So you all kind of have different sorts of points of view.

But, and I always say whenever I go to a wedding

or write a note that just says, "Never forget the moment you realize." - Wait.

- And you never forget what moment it's like.

- He's jealous. - Never forget the moment you realized. - Yeah. - That you, that you, too. - We're a thing. - We're a thing.

- You're like, this is it, this is my partner. And you want to protect that. And so I think people get in fights or arguments because of a miscommunication or someone really fucked up. - Yeah.

- Like, so don't, but what I truly like, just don't fuck up. Like, just like, really lean in, protect it. - Yeah. - You're gonna have to weather the storm, right?

- Yeah, it's right. - And kids are, there's always something. Fantastic. - Oh yeah, you saw that? - Yeah.

- That's for you guys. Saw them up. - Speaking of a hector. - Yeah. - Right?

- Well, I mean, the production of this. - This is. - This is. - Pretty incredible. - I have a question when you guys were making breaking bad and like, and you're being,

you're probably receiving all the cliffhangers and whatnot via script form. Sorry, you guys like, fiending the scripts and like, so excited to sit down. - We're waiting.

- Yeah. - Just, you ever just like, that, what's what happened?

- Honestly, you know, there was a moment

where I see Brian, this is walking out of the production office into the stage and he sees me. He's like, "Come here." And he gives me this big hug. - Oh yeah.

- And like, what's going on? It's just like this emotional hug. - Yeah. - And he's like, "Wow, though, like crazy." I go, "What is going on?"

- He's like, "Well, you read it." - Right, the latest. - Yeah. - And like, no, I haven't got it yet, he's like, "Oh, yeah." - Oh, yeah, well. - Yeah, boy, do you mind?

- Oh, okay, never mind. - And because he says something like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." - It's crazy, but what a way to go. - Oh, man, what is he talking at that moment? - Oh, man, he's straight into the production office.

I'm like, "Where's the script?" He's like, "They're not ready yet." I'm like, "Well, give me the writers' draft or something." - Yeah.

- No, that no one has yet. I'm like, Brian just said he read it. I have to know what's going on. - Yeah, I thought they were just kind of being cautious being protective of my feelings.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Let me read an outline, something. He's just fucking with me. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He made me think that I was still hunting.

- That's a great prank. - That's a great prank. - He was supposed to die. - Was he? - Yeah, yeah. - The character was supposed to die in what season?

- First, he's the one, yeah, that's what I thought.

- I didn't know that going in. - I read that. - Yeah. - And I wasn't sure if it was you. - You must feel proud. I mean, you just earned your way out of death to look.

The ultimate of life, like, Boston through that fence. Drive it out. - He's a perfectionist, by the way. - What is this missing? I'm kind of doing it in a wrong way.

- 30, 40 more minutes. - So something new. - It tastes good. Is there a simple serve? - We have these things.

- A little simple syrup, a little, - Yeah, you have that simple syrup right there. - All right, got it. - That's what I mean, all right. - Just a little, just a little, just a little.

- Just a little bit of that. - That's what it needs. - Just a little pucker out.

- It needs a pop.

- Look at him. You guys have dreams about breaking bad and shooting. You miss it? - Oh, good. - Well, you know, when it ended 13 years ago, I thought,

well, that's the end of that. That's the last time I'll see these people. And then he did a movie called El Camino, which seemed to end of the story of what happened to Jesse. - Yeah. - Which people wanted to know?

- Yeah. - And so I was doing a play in New York at the time, and I got into a car right after my Sunday matinee, flew on a private jet to Albuquerque. - Nice.

- They put a shroud over me getting off the plane 'cause they didn't want anybody to know anything. They put me into an Airbnb, I couldn't leave. - Oh my God. - And the next day, I had that shroud open again.

And I think they said, what were our names, your name? - Oh, Burton Ernie. - Burton Ernie. - That was our name.

- That was our name. And they put me in a ball cap in the whole thing. - Oh, I did a couple days with him, and then flew back to New York to continue. - And then we did a little bit on Better Call Saul.

- Yeah, Better Call Saul was like, - But when we were shooting, I mean, I was having dreams as the guy as Jesse. - Yeah. - Like as Jesse.

- Really? - Yeah.

- How do that stress you out when you're having a meal?

- Yeah. - Do you forget how to talk like yourself? - It's better. - You guys are so sweet. Your relationship makes me want to cry. - Yeah.

- So that was sweet. - Normally bird feeds me, my food. - It is sweet.

- And then I've never witnessed,

I've obviously big fans of the show. - Yeah, I've just never waited for you to have this. - I've just never waited for you to have this. - I was like, I love you. - I love the guy.

You know, I got to tell you something. - Yeah. - He's about to have a pretty serious surgery. - Oh. - Really?

- Yeah, he's having a shoulder surgery. - Yeah. - Tell me, John? - Replacing the shoulder. - Replacing the shoulder.

- You still, you know, come in. - Well, it's just baseball. It's an incredible picture. - Oh, wow. - You know what, you know what, you know what,

he's giving me? - What? - He's an old shoulder. - He's giving me his old shoulder. (laughing)

- He's crying. - Wait, really? - He's giving him my shoulder to cry. - That's so good. - He'll have my bone there.

- He's gonna try. I don't know if they're gonna lie. - No, I can't. - I can't. - You can ask for the bone.

- There you go. - You can give me the bone. - They're gonna put it on my, on my mantle. - Okay. - I can't pour these in.

- I mean, some things they bring. - No, we have real, we have real. - I ask a question about your wire or rewatch when you were shooting Breaking Bad. - Yeah, four.

- You just like, oh my God, what's season?

Do you remember when you started getting out of the wire?

- I started rewatching the wire season. The second season. - Okay. - Yeah. - 'Cause I was hoping that you were gonna say

the fourth season is not right because you were like, oh my God, I'm in the middle of one of these things right now. - Yeah. - Like, did that influence your rewatch timing

or not? - Maybe, to be honest, we watched the pilot together. - We knew when we read the pilot, right? Oh my God, this is the greatest thing we've ever read. The pilot of Breaking Bad was the sixth or seventh pilot

that I had done.

But the biggest one's never went to see it.

- Yeah, yeah. - And I was, that was the most strapped I've been financially. - Yeah. - I really needed.

- Did you work last? - No. - I really needed this pilot to work out. - But also, he was living in a closet. That's where he was.

- Yeah, I had a studio apartment, a roommate moved in. I had a, I would sleep on the bed for a week and then I'd moved to the closet. - You got a good change. - And it swaps, yeah.

- Hey. - And so I was struggling and then Breaking Bad just kind of cooked up. But when we watched the pilot for the first time, this was before we were picked up. - Right, oh my God, our jaws were on the floor.

- So you think it was gonna be great, right? - Just the execution of all levels, like oh my God. And we thought, are they gonna make the announcement to us that we got picked up? - They didn't.

And then we didn't find out for like three weeks after that. - I must have been frustrating to, 'cause two seasons go by, one of the best shows ever made and it's not being necessarily appreciated on the level.

- Right, but he won, you know, he won the,

me, the first season for seven episodes.

- So, critically, it was being praised. But the people, the public hadn't really caught on yet. - It's interesting, but Netflix truly saved us. - You know, there's all sorts of things. - Oh, beautiful work.

- When you're making something, sometimes I don't know, like, when a song's gonna be big, or sometimes I'm the opposite way. I think it's gonna be big. It's not, also sometimes I'll work with someone

and it takes so long for them to get big. - Right, right, right.

- And they'll be singing, I'm like, how is everyone not knows?

- But you know, though, sometimes with music, you know, it's just an instant thing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is an instant thing. - You know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You can identify when something's really good. - Yeah, yeah. - But you can't possibly say, this is gonna hit.

We don't know what's going to hit.

- Okay, back in the day, before, like, TikTok and all that stuff,

I had a really good, like, if I thought a song was gonna be big,

I'd say, more times than not, it became big. - Right. - Now, it's a little bit more difficult because you're losing your tongue. - I'm losing my tongue. Yeah, I'm all, I definitely.

- No, it's tough because there's so many other factors now, because in a cool way, people, thank you. - Thank you. - Oh, yeah, let's taste this. - I have to... - Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood, Salood,

very comfortable with not knowing and you learn you just start absorbing exactly how it's made and then behind the bar it's like watching bar tenders it really know what they're doing yeah then you kind of emulate that yeah so this was just kind of a best margarita ever had my life it's because I don't stop to read anything other than white wine this is so good you first said

it was the best margarita yeah now you say it's top of me real I'm always I don't

lie now what oh god wait do you take this you want to do a little cover about do I snort this whatever it's not you I'll see you snort it I haven't eaten anything I've huge textural phobia I've just tried a great for the first time this one I mean I hope you guys don't think you're leaving you guys

out of it I'm so proud of you it's a big deal that's why I can I'm so

proud of you I was worried I'm gonna really taste the individuality of the balls right but no which would really unnerves me no because like your show where are you really? what you guys say the two of you are is this some peak life for you right now like do you feel like you kind of done new things you want to do and now you're having like you get to like do stuff like this and

you get to get a elbow or shoulders surgery yeah all I mean it's all just such a blessing I'm I'm I'm starting to to take it a little different fact yeah I'm starting to degrade no no you're great by the way oh gosh you really do you know but you know I'm 37 years and and my wife Robin has been my champion through you know all these years of the actor for

47 years wow I mean even on a bigger scale than breaking bad like when you say you're your big break in your acting I mean Malcolm in the middle was probably the big thing yeah but even that you were like however you were not going the middle start at 41 yeah you were in this approach to be was that supposed to be as big of a role in that show at the beginning well you know I mean to have a

career you need you have to be talented you have to have perseverance and

patience but you also need a healthy dose of luck yeah he was going to be cut from from our show but for the strike he Vince Gilligan didn't get that

far yeah in the show and he wasn't in the first season yes no wait no

honestly when we shot the pilot when we shot the pilot and Vince sold the idea the arc of the show the the the arc of the first season was Jesse Pinkman introduces Walt to the drug world and by towards the end of the not only the finale it's like the episode before the finale Pinkman dies and then Walt is then led to go out for revenge into the second season it's good right but

when we when we shot the pilot you got picked up Vince told me while we're shooting the first season at towards the end of it he pulled me over during lunch and he's like I want to I want to I want to tell you something he's having lunch with all the writers I want you to start making the lunch for all the kids you're about to die oh no I want you to know the original plan was

to kill you off at the end of the season yeah we still had like two more

Episodes yeah my heart just starts pounding through my chest like well what d...

mean when am I gonna die he's like no no you're not gonna die when we shot the pilot and we saw what you and Brian were doing together we just love that

dynamic so much so when they got picked up the first meeting in the writer's room

they decided to change the whole dynamic like we're now longer gonna have him die dude your life could have been so different I would have been so pissed back there probably I would have been so sad I would have been so sad horrible yeah it would break out the one here you're like am I disposed then and then he you know he messes with me that I'm gonna die people then he

started he started it was like the domino that fell yeah and then everybody sort of like started to get in on it you know it's like the producer came up to me they're like hey you're gonna need to stay afterwards to get your like the measurements for the coffee and I was like what coffee and they're like oh my right you haven't read that you know I just forget it I'll let Vince talk to you

about it that's what I mean it's all his fault and even I mean to me

stringer it stringer bell dying in the wire it's like oh my god it's a chip to use as a series if it's like you have probably one time where you can really kill a beloved character I'm like stringer bell dying the wire boy was my world absolutely died yes you know you know who was a chip that died in a way like somebody has to die at some point you know what I mean in the

show like breaking bad or the wire yeah and I thought the the death that rocked me in breaking bad was Gus I mean obviously in general was character but the way in which is face fella and then it was just yeah I have that head great oh my god you use the death in my opinion yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's a good point that's because because you shouldn't kill off a character without

great value yeah you have to you have to you have to you have to be careful of how you do that you know Gus was the coolest stuff but Hank was the one that gutted me the most oh my god wait when did you guys get married I guess we all got we usually was amazing enjoy it yeah so good I got married one month apart yeah really yeah yeah yeah was that a plan or was it like no oh ours honestly is

ours was just the only time it's been in our schedules that we were we'd have to wait another year and we were like oh let's just do it then and he was on a deadline he had I gave him a she didn't know it was very subtle but she was she you you were in our 30s we were in our 30s already and she she's like you know anyone valuable with self you know of course he's it's like this is a

awareness it's like never I don't know whatever I respect me yeah I could not

respect and automate a more in fact it's crazy that we even live in a world where like women got to just wait till the end of the world you guys meet a writer of my show a wonderful woman named Vanessa okay it was a mutual friend and one mate she was born in with Vanessa and Vanessa told me because I was always saying Vanessa you've got to know somebody like yeah was I was like a hopeless romantic

dating just waiting to I really was like being patient exactly and then she was like oh my god at my friend Kristen I'm born with her and I think she might be your wife and it was like 11pm already I went down 11 it was like are you you went there yeah yeah I didn't go for you really bold to say I think she might be a wife proactive wow I know the crazy thing is 2019 I'm shooting a

video with Selena oh yeah dating someone else yeah my mom's on the video

shoot and she says she's sitting there she's like on she's like you should marry

Selena and I was like what and she was like you should be dating someone like Selena and there was like two times in my life where I like left a specific session or late or a video with her where I was like wow she's so cool yeah it's like really because we were friendly and we were friends but we weren't like best friends and at my time I like hung out with her for an extended period of

time I'd be like oh my god she's so cool I actually an ex girlfriend of mine from way before that like yeah like five years before that I was texting with her one time and she said like you know it's it's so great you guys got married I remember you talking so positively about Selena even when we were together just as like a friendly thing no now it's like like not it's like yeah so you're

mom planted my mom planted the seed and she was like you should really and I was like mom I'm not she was like I really want you to be like she's like she's got her head on her shoulders yeah she's like have a girlfriend yeah yeah I really was crazy yeah so she was like she's so sweet you know she's this

and that she's such a sweetheart yeah everyone says you always meet your best

you always marry your best friend like that's what it works and it was like

you can she's mine she's my fucking best friend and it's like you're too

Newlywed so few times together he's a little bit afraid when we have kids he's

like I know well especially the reality is that's that's normal and that's

the reality I don't hear it I have a certain level I always have a degree and I

have incompetence to like I'm incredibly smart in certain ways and incredibly incompetent in other ways yeah and I there's I just have I should I give the example of driving today he doesn't know neither one the speed limit she goes she goes you know I'm driving like 38 miles and I know she goes you're driving 23 miles there's a car right there's a car right there's a car right there's a car right

you know the speed limit it's 45 I say okay there's a car right no no you go okay am I going to fat yes I'm going to fat and I thought well when he looked at the speed it's right I did I look at it right previous before that I was cruising in about 40 I just and I I said are you asking I said I don't understand like to me my brain was like if someone says to me yeah do you know the speed limit's

45 I would instantly look at the speedometer in front of me either one of them

I need to have children so I think that there's a level of competence to me that

that is just but I love innate in me that I on the one hand I want to be like I will work on that and I should work on that and I will work on that but I think I think that there is something in me that is really an apple battle but I will be better

than I would be if I did nothing but I still will never be the great version of

that competent like at all times or certain things that I'm going to do that's better than any father could ever do with their other things and I would say the moment you have a child yeah there's something that has been laid dormant inside of me it just come away but out of you the moment it's just like natural instincts yeah you know granted yeah there are some people that clearly should not be parents you know what I mean just like the

abuse of me but you are just such brave light yeah you know and you have such great energy good people and he loves our dog you guys will make sure you guys want to make you guys will make up for all your shortcomings with love and with love I have a lot of love to give interest I can I can tell you about you you know you feel like I can take care of myself you get married you have a partner you go yeah I can expand that to yeah feeling

responsible for each other yeah and then you expand it to a child and for the first time in my

life I had fear yeah like what what how can I protect yeah this little being and you start you know you have some nightmare sometimes they oh god yeah so you start wearing your heart on the outside when you have a child yeah you will forever be parenting our daughters 33 years old right we we don't stop parenting yeah you just do it differently yeah you're scared when you first had a kid kind of but also excited yeah terribly excited but it's good to be scared yeah yeah

yeah yeah I was terrified yeah it creates questions the greatest thing in the world it is yeah good the actors and be scared because you get another feeling like human emotion that you can use to that and again going back into the we don't know anything kind of thing yeah we go into something we're not really sure well that's parenting again like oh it's like what what we do enacting me you know my mom told me this my mom said nobody knows anything she said

first of all people is now no way too much like back in the day yeah there's nothing there's no there's no anything yeah you just like oh fuck what does that mean and she was like and you figured it out she my mom said my mom said it's figure it out she's like there's figure mom yeah she's like there's people true it's true you'll figure it out half feet box feet chuck I can't leave you have one more bite because I gotta say something oh hurry up don't just go to eat

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people talk about being the biggest shows ever now you have like successful things after it do you

guys still like seek new are you still seeking like it's all about balance yeah the adults seeking balance how much to yourself how much to your partner how much to your children how much to your house how much to your folks how much it you know it's constantly moving up and down and that's what you're looking for yeah you're balancing your every day human life you want to try to find something about as you know such a blessing to just just be here to exist but to do what you truly love

whatever that may be yeah to do what you truly love is such a blessing and then why I really started to lean into business has allowed me to just be with my wife and kiddos so good you know what I mean it really has I love that because I can do this anywhere yeah yeah you know at the pop away from time you know from time to time just for you know business trips but did that shift after like breaking bad like I feel like a lot of actors as in this town it's like you're waiting for this big

thing that you get to have to show what you're capable of like yeah and then you got that thing then did you guys kind of feel like this this part of me at least has been somewhat shown that I can

kind of move well you know I I think I can answer for both of us but you definitely got more opportunities

before breaking bad if then I did but then once breaking bad happened it was it was crazy the opportunities that started presenting themselves to to us and everyone really involved in the show yeah and so it's just all about trying to be sort of selective and you know thinking on what you want to tackle next because in this industry you're just like you're really only as good as your most recent project that's at less and less you guys are you and you make a show of time and

that's you know we move on we do other things in other series other movies or theater whatever to know that the first line in our eventual obituary is will be breaking bad yeah it's great or if it's like tequila those one I did have one other question yeah I bet you have more than one

yeah I think there's my last question I care about he always that's one more question it's like

yes I'm just so happy for the three of you I'm just having this is such a great time I haven't done a podcast or any radio in north of a decade oh yeah I swear it off wow you had a bad experience I had a bad experience you know north of ten years ago on a radio tour you know you wake up at four in the morning and you and but then they're just like the person out is just way too intense for that early in the morning and they it's just felt like

you're having me you know what I don't I don't want to do this anymore so I've been saying no to literally everything but I I mean I love this guy I actually met you two at the same time the same day like years ago yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we see we see we see it's like when this when this came out I became such a massive fan and then you know we got to note that you asked us to be a part of it so I reached out and like hey we would love to do it and so anyways

you got to touch your great it's such a great time I feel like this has been out so such a small amount of time that it like we've really what a great response I know we're so fortunate really are they read me the comments anything negative so she's had to definitely she just can actually put different energy back actually you look at my social media I have two posts I do not go on social

media you have to consider social media just as you do food you're putting it into your body

you're putting social media it's your brain is it healthy for you now you have to have a filter and say enough we don't think you should be addicted but yeah we're gonna keep pumping out the content yeah yeah no I think that I go to TikTok and I go to Instagram for actual like connection and like a rush of dopamine when I think it is it's a it's the most widely accepted drug in the world yeah yes like this is my dopamine you should be going to caviar to caviar I will

oh I think we're gonna use that I love that you keep you keep diving in I love that I'm proud okay wait I want to ask yeah okay if a man came in here with a god no that's my

second question no so my question was you actually shaved your head for the show right yeah

was did you like have to tell well you so scared have you ever seen your head have you ever seen your head with like did you know what have you had like bulls or shit yeah that was your burning

Question yeah I was your wife like are you fucking nuts no no let me where ac...

looking forward to looking different feeling different yeah yeah in between jobs I usually grow my

hair grow facial hair yeah I'm working on the studio right now so I keep it clean too

yeah it's fun show but but to shave my head it it saved me time it would have caught it would have saved it would have I would have had much mine come in earlier in the day yeah put on the ball okay put it down and do the but then give you the options but also when you have a ball cap on you you are aware of it oh yeah and over over 13 14 hours it gets hot yeah because you're you know

the heat stays in and it's like the day said his dream we we always think about our dream would be

at the height of everything yes we on this show shave our full from here all the way here I brows and everything just whole thing and nothing else not great idea like you know what we're doing now I don't know can I ask a question about theater yeah did when you did you do theater before like when you first started you were doing theater okay because I was going to say I just seen him on stage no but I can I can tell you be incredible because you have such a focus like you have such a good like I'm sorry

what my question really was within this with TV do you like theater more than you like acting on TV it's really more immediate immediately rewarding yeah it's like doing stand up doing you know

you're right there you can feel the audience it's a high it's a high it's a yeah you're getting an

ebb and flow relationship with the audience your responsibility is to guide them to a story yeah and if you don't do it it's not their fault it's your fault it's like so you can feel sometimes they're quiet and but they're really attentive sometimes they're boisterous and laughing at everything

and it's like oh that's maybe but too much about who knows I guess TV and film you have to just

go in and out and in and out and like snap in and out but a theater that's that's exactly how I explain it to in in television film we're in the bits and pieces business yeah a little bit a little bit a little piece yeah in theater it's a beginning middle in and every performance so it's more revealing I love it but that's why it's it's tougher it's harder for an asset hard it's hard it's hard it's harder but every you know it's like like occasionally you

have a part on your show where oh this is the emotional part I oh god but if you pick a good play you have that every performance it's a gut punch and you should you know why do the play and so I finished this play on my birthday March 7th on my 70th birthday the plays over three days later I fly to Italy to do two episodes of the studio in Venice now I'm playing this really crazed wacky character who's in comedy so the difference from sublime to the ridiculous

yeah you know it was it was such a relief it was like going on vacation yeah that's fun to do that you had to go for such turmoil in this play yeah and how many how many shows are you 115 I mean I cannot believe that I mean what you had to put your body through do you guys feel like I'm a actor has like a little bit of method acting depends on your your definition of method

you know method acting I mean my process is I mean the first two years for example of breaking

bat I tried to just stay just stay in it because I was nervous to lose it you know and he he came up to me towards the end of the second season I remember we were watching opera make up and he came up to me he's like it's okay to just wash off your makeup and just be you know you don't have to go to the cinema you know he was looking out for me you saw the shit I was putting myself yeah sustain you know I mean and it was really really really hard on me but I remember

going home and I I couldn't get that out of my mind I'm like I think you know he's right he's right

and so I so moving on I just try to force myself to believe that these circumstances are just truly happening to me as that guy yeah you know I mean everyone has different a different process here's a question I have like for example the scene where you're on the in the crawl space and episode ends with you laughing do you know that you have the ability physically to do that type of laugh and you practice and you know that you have that in you or do you just kind of leave it up to

letting your emotions get taken over by the character in that moment whatever happens happens and was it sorry just to add to that was that I I can't remember was that laugh was it scripted that's not just great thank you it was scripted that he he laughs at the absurdity of

That's right so I I knowing I was going to do that is I start thinking what d...

that so it not necessarily funny but just I'm the fuck did this happen kind of thing

that you can like ease into and and I don't know what I was thinking of that's many years ago so you find something that you like oh that that was that was a weird time yeah any kind of have that as you're reading through the script and you you file it away almost like you put a little post it note in the back of your brain and if you when you're doing the scene if it comes out it comes out it doesn't you find something else interesting like for me and I'm not a good

example of what an actor is I feel like I can really act like myself but these inhabiting these other people I would struggle with more or less because I feel like I have trouble getting

out of my own head and I would always be aware that I am me and I am playing this character

etc so for me my best bet if I had to do that scene I would have literally practice like at least evaluated what would I do if I left really hard and like because that sound like do I even like the way that feels can I replicate that over and I would have like game it all out it's it's probably a dangerous thing for an actor to think along those terms because what you're describing is a result is you're looking for how would it actually sound

the director at the end of it yes for an actor you want to you want to leave it open you don't want to come to a result because it might be the wrong one on the day when you're doing something you're going and also you know what the other performer is going to be throwing your way you know the the the dialogue the script but just how they are emoting everything is going to change

everything it's like you it's like when you freestyle it's like you never know what's going to

and that's when you always get the best stuff but it's when you're like not thinking yeah

when you go in thinking about like how you have to attack the verse it's like you always say like

like you'll say like oh my god just like do anything random because that's when you're going to get the best shit are you are you are you like I'm Walter White or you like I'm Brian Kranson playing Walter White or you don't like does that those thoughts don't even come into your head or you're thinking you're thinking as the character you think and I'm also that whatever he would do that wasn't necessarily scripted or something a behavior or something Walter would have a specific

reaction to Brian would react differently that was so you stay in the character how do you do that you take classes it's a gym you go to the gym you know your body goes oh I know what we're doing here I'm used to I know what this exercise is I know what I'm supposed to do and so work for us is like going to the gym we're familiar with it and if and but I need to stress and I tell young

actors as all of them any kind of instinct doesn't mean you can't prepare you need to work all

I don't think I've ever really worked with a genius who just going up up up on and they're brilliant yeah it no it's a lot of hard work yeah would you guys be like hey let's rehearse this and like find the rhythm not necessarily when we run the day yeah all the day we run like we from the pilot to the finale we shared a trail like a double banger yeah like a trailer split in half he had one side out the other and we would read lines you know outside of the trailer or like in the

hair make-up trailer was there a lot of improv and bringing better not no no we're such a beautifully written it's under the story that you don't want to talk about the frame TV yeah it's Samsung's item it's beautiful it like draws your eyes to it where before you'd be like oh there's a black box that you're like oh my gosh you have this art and then we then I love saying people that's a TV right I love that feeling it's not just like basic art this isn't art you can find anywhere

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either with your wife and kids and it's such a beautiful thing like you really do walk the walk

and talk the talk like anytime I see him he's like you're like so I think I've only seen

you one time when you weren't either with your wife or kids or both or like and to be yeah yeah and it's it's it's very cool that you've been able to do all this stuff and it's like and still do that and it's something I really aspire to do and your like work life balance from a far seems great too yeah I don't know if you know if you guys know how stoked are you his daughter

is it amazing he's not one of the biggest shows yeah and it's like yeah what does that feel like so amazing

do you know better than high burn here is the yeah yes yeah because the as a parent as a parent I will tell you as you prepare as you prepare the thing you want more than anything the thing you dream about and say prayers about please let my children find happiness enjoy I don't care what it is what occupation the end up or who their partner is please let it be joyful and happy that's all you want yeah you know that just to and so tailor being raised in this business

and she knew my parents were actors and my grandfather was an actor involved build so she's fourth generation and she knows and she knows the the ups and downs and the ins and outs and it's like okay this is a this is a she's been around is it's a family business very common and but the big the biggest blessing for Robin and I are that she's in for the right reason she loves it she's in love

with a town she's in love with the art and that will sustain and that's what I tell young

beer I said if you say Stanislavsky the famous Russian actor and teacher and the the father of the method yeah yeah he had a quote that said love the art within you not you within the art so I love the love how it makes you feel the empowerment the art within you that motivates you but not go oh I want to see my name in the lights for somebody that house I want to you know

that's that's that's in love with the yeah something else yeah well never sustain of course

that it's funny Dave I was I always know I always know I always know this about me and him is that of course we love knowing that something's going to be great right I know we kill ourselves and we do it because it's like the inside of scratch with it like even if no I would still be making all the songs the same way doing everything the same way but because it just scratching that it will be so quiet okay so what you know seven years of doing this and working on some

really really wonderful material both in theater and the one common denominator that I've noticed

with anyone who is a director writer producer is that good enough is never going to

enough yeah it's like yeah it's like oh we're doing it in the dark and yeah and again he's got it and again Vince Gilligan yes when he's when he was directing several episodes of breaking bad he knew that their time is of the essence so you're doing a show you you've got up keep moving yes and so he would literally take his forefinger and his middle finger and touches forehead and like what else what else what what am I talking about so he agonized over it

it wasn't like free flowing don't you can't picture Vince Gilligan just oh yeah she'll go done yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah agonizing what am I missing yeah yeah yeah it's gotta be better it's gotta be better yeah and he loves writing himself into a corner of course so it is incredibly hard to get out yeah so the audience goes through that experience yeah yeah yeah yeah so getting better to get it out the love yeah

the only way you're gonna go beyond that's good enough right is because you have a passion for

the love you gotta make it better you gotta make it better you gotta keep slugging it in the face definitely better somehow you like feel the tension in the friction of even your performances and you know as writers or actors producers and actors is that there are times yeah there are times when you go I'm fucking exhausted man our our exhaustion at the moment is really temporary but what we're making last forever and if you keep that if you keep that it's mine you go

Push you through it'll push you through that next level you gotta keep pushin...

because good at the moment of being just I yeah is is just now but what you're making forever

and if you can remember that it'll it'll it'll serve you and if you can if you can

summon one of them yeah hold my show Dave because I really wanted to put my name on the line and really yeah yeah it's like this is gonna live forever I'm gonna give it my all I'm gonna put my best foot forward I give it my all I give it my all in a way that I think other people are surprised by but when they're working on it they can't help but respect it

yeah and then they want to give it their all and I think ultimately the consumer can feel it

in the product if it's like they're starting things that aren't like that okay what do I want and I'll eat pop of course I do a blackberry vanilla raspberry raspberry sherbet I got to taste one of these bad boys right now oh yeah yeah yeah oh this literally reminds me of when I was a kid Hoffman's roller coasters amusement park my grandmother Mimi buying me a sherbet okay I got to get a few of these guys actually I'm leaving me so all in here I'm safe and for myself

love you guys and I remember you you you came to me for like a quick little episode but I was

shoot it I was so bummed I just want you I'm happy I can tell you personally remember that yeah

remember this would have been so fun um because sadly I actually don't do much fun comedy you know and I wish I did yeah you seem funny yeah you're so funny we should do a comedy what go let's go it's right now guys yeah I like it because it wasn't something that was familiar yeah so anytime that you place an audience in a little they're on their heels it's better especially for that show I used to stay and listen to it like you know they and like you know how you can

press skip yeah I never skipped never skipped I loved it it was a well that one and sopranos I always

stayed for what do you what's next for you what are you looking forward to like what's up what's up what's up what's up what's up I'm getting my shoulder replaced yeah we have like a little

something no cartilage that's why I have to get my shoulder replaced your bone against but no I'm looking

forward to nice I'm actually excited yeah because I have such limited mobility with this really like look this is as far as I can take my arm up my back okay hey wow but you never really need to reach back yeah you don't need that you know I can't put it like that kid can you go like this okay you can do it look at this okay this here don't compare this there no no no what is my surgery you can't you can't I had a thing cartilage no I had a I had to get 41 stitches I

like like yeah yeah but like look for I'm ruined the stuff you're using that thumb I know but it does it gets in the way of music I better because I can't stretch like the way I want to but oh my god you're going to feel so much better my friend got his hip replacing said it changes life yeah is it all from you throughout like is it all from your back a lot from baseball and just being a boy now well you like next level baseball no no no no no as no I love the game much more than I was

good to watch baseball a lot I'm a big Dodger fans you like show hey oh yeah yeah it's the most impressive thing that's happened in sports in any of our life I meant yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're the best it's a little bit it's not like LeBron eyes because it's baseball and because he's not American but what he's doing those are good pants I'd wear those every day too

I'll do you pair yeah well thank you for dressing up first of all yeah you were so nervous to do

are you a sick of it no no it's a blessing yes this show changed our lives yeah and it also introduced us to each other yeah you guys like he's the greatest gift from the show as much as a little show I think that in the money and of course the if claim I the final day we were able to work the final day and we were back in the desert and we had to do a speech in front of the crew yeah and I felt I was holding it together but I was waiting to say something to him until the end

and I just couldn't do it I just started weeping you know because he's just I'm crying

He's just he's just he's just the best I've learned so much from him on scree...

I just yeah I love them out do you love him as much or not yeah you haven't said no I'm not I

threw up it's very clear I love him more which is fine which is you know no no now I know he loves me and

you know you know he's my son's godfather you know he's been oozing he's an oozer hey you know

I am you know that's what they say I'm an oozer yeah I use it but yeah it's what a blessing

we formed this company of those arms because we missed each other yeah and if we had played golf we probably wouldn't have had the company but that that's and it was an interesting

realization for me as a as a man growing up in my era and you know because I was born in the 50s

raised basically in the 60s and early 70s and it was you know kind of rigid in what a man should do

in a man don't I men don't cry and I was like and to get to a point where you feel a true love

for someone else you know in a platonic way but a deep deep love and a friendship and knowing

that we're going to be friends forever yeah and and as we love his children and I love the calm monkey man I understand get it actually they think his name is his monkey monkey man I get it you look a monkey man yeah and I just you know I just I like that when I when I see them because it's just you're you're a really terrific father so thank you bro and he is is such a you're such a great dad and a great husband and you know that's the thing you can you it's you can have it all you

That's the thing you realize. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. Yeah, it's much, so that's good.

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