The Kenny G Episode

[music playing] I was great, Chuck. [music playing] Sorry.

“You might not know this, but he's a very large investor in Starbucks.”

We'll get into it, too. [music playing] Can I tell you guys something? What? Popcorn chickens back at KFC.

Yeah, Chuck, are you telling me? Popcorn chickens back at KFC. I just said it. Hmm. What?

Porn chickens feel good telling people that? It's back, and I wouldn't even say. Better than ever. It's better than ever. I'm more on straightforward KFC sauce.

I'm old-fashioned, I love the tender. You really do? I don't. But I'm thrilled to popcorn chicken from KFC is back. Was that just a little bit weird?

Wait. No, trust me, put it away.

Let's talk about our guests today, because I've never been--

I know I might say I'd never been more excited. We're so excited. Well, his name is Kenny. I watched this documentary. I think he's nothing about it.

I finished. I watched the documentary. I've never felt like anyone reminded me of myself and my whole life until I watched this documentary. I was like, that guy is exactly like--

[knocking] I think Kenny's ears is his hair. This is still good. He still's got-- I don't know.

I'll tell me in a second. He's still has good hair. Hey! All right. I'm sorry.

Oh, my god. He's still got great hair. The first jazz-sex symbol. That's a great word. Hold the Kenny G-part and bring, like,

this is Kenny G. Gotta get wet. That's not what the G stands for. I'm okay. Got one for us.

I'm tired. You've got to stir up every day. Every day?

“You've been naked playing the saxophone.”

Not sure about that. I just want to see you blow that more. [music playing] [music playing] I used to hear you on a station.

There was a station that I grew up. There was your girl in Virginia. And it used to go, you used to go-- [music playing] One, and no, five.

And then they always-- And they always had it. It was a voice over it. Yeah. And it was like, hey, I'm Kenny G.

And you're listening to a-- I'm sure I got that. That was his voice. Let me ask a question. True or false.

That's smooth jazz station doesn't exist without Kenny G. It probably didn't come to exist without my music. That's just kind of started things off. Yeah. Look, I'm not saying I--

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my music was there. But it was really after my song got popular that that started. So I didn't get it. It wasn't as big of a genre.

There was no genre. How did your first song get so big? Like, how did it happen? Well, it's a long story. I would love to hear it.

Not the full version, but maybe the minute version is. So I was playing sax with his guy that had a record deal. His name was Jeff Lorber, a really good piano player, keyboard player. Yeah, a record deal with Clive Data.

So you know the name Clive Data? I know Clive, I know Clive Data. So I got the gig with him, and I play with him for like five years. During those five years, we would go to New York and play the jazz clubs. And Clive would come to watch his artist, Jeff.

And while he watched his artist, he saw me. And after like five years, Clive comes up to me and says,

“"Kennie, I think there's a market for your music.”

Would you like to your own solo records?" And I thought, of course I would. Did you ever think someone was going to ask you like,

have that, and you would never have even had the bowl.

No, I would have had it. To make a solo. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have, but I wasn't like chomping for it. I wasn't at that moment. I wasn't lobbying for it.

You guys should see the footage of this man when he was-- Well, I've seen the documentary. I love it. I was really athletic. Let me tell you, I know a lot of what you're saying.

I really fit. I saw the documentary. It was on HBO. Yeah. Yeah.

So good. Really good. And I loved it. But the reason I loved it was very well done, but I loved it because I loved you so much.

And I have never, in my life, ever seen another human being and had the thought that guy reminds me of myself. Oh, cool, except you. I don't know if it's cool or not. I think it's cool.

I love myself, which means I think it's very cool. You don't even see it at all. Kenny, do you see it at-- I do so far. OK.

Yeah, you seem like you're kind of like meticulous and you're on point. What about the facts at hand? You know anything about any of us all. Well, there's, wow, just blind faith.

You can do this. Can you-- Let me tell you about myself. I kept looking up looking on the email thread saying, OK, what's the name of the show I'm doing?

Can I look it up and watch anything? Dave and Benny podcast. Well, I'll tell him it's not a podcast, Kenny. So see, I didn't even know what I'm doing. Is that that, yeah?

No, you know, we've been-- I'll be leaving now. No, Kenny, my name is Dave. This is Kristen. That's Benny.

I'll start with myself because I'm the one speaking. I grew up in suburban Philadelphia.

I always felt destined to be a comedian.

Ah, yeah. I saw that there was the space and the comedy rap that no one was really doing it.

a great rapper. Wow, yeah.

“And so, and then I made a TV show about my life,”

which is kind of the telling of that story

over like three seasons. You can enjoy this on FX. Seriously? Yeah, gosh. I think you'd like it.

I'm going to check it out. It's a good show. I wish I would have watched it already, then I would have been able to comment on it. No, we like that you--

No, we like that you know nothing about it. OK, Kristen, now you-- This is my least favorite thing. There's really nothing to-- I'm just a girl.

That's not just a girl looking at a boy telling him-- I'm just a newly married girl. That's the game that she likes the plan. That's not the game. I just don't have the same, like Paul and I--

Kristen, I'm from Michigan. I'm from Michigan. You're from Michigan. You used to be a producer. I don't even know him.

So I'm still a producer. And now you have your own television show

that you just sold at FX.

I don't have my television shows in development, which is why I don't like to say that. But it's in development at FX. So we'll see if they like it. Great.

Hopefully my name's Danny. I started making music in a really young age. And I want to contest when I was like, nine, and then I got signed very young. Wow.

I started writing songs and producing songs for other people. And I was pretty good at it. And I wrote a very big amount of songs for people and produced them for like 10, 15 years. And I'm telling some of the songs.

I probably know these songs for nine. Like, I kissed a girl. Yeah, it'd be very, very important. Maybe I maybe I've seen your name on some things. Very important songs.

And then I started-- For you. And then I started a record label. And then a publishing company, and I started producing people's full albums. Like Ed Sheeran's whole album.

And then you married my wife is a big fan. Do I know who your wife is? Her name's Selena Gomez, and she's like a big singer. Her name's Selena Gomez. Yeah, yeah, she's like an actor.

I think I've seen her.

“I think she's only murders or something.”

Do you know what could Marty Short? I know. I have a question. Is this also poppy cock? Or are you, like, are you--

Either that word, the law, that's a great word. Or one of the harpy cock. Early investors or owners are something of Starbucks. That is true. What's the fact?

All right, give me all the facts. How did he have it? The fact is that there was a one store in the Pike Place Market in Seattle, one Starbucks store. And they just sold coffee beans.

That's where it's sold. You could just go, all right, beans. Anyway, my uncle says, hey, they're trying to raise money for Starbucks coffee, I don't know anything about coffee. Because yeah, well, I'm going to put some money in.

And why don't you meet the guy that's raising the money? His name was Howard Schultz, the guy that started it. You know, he should meet him. He said, I bet you guys would become friends. So I met Howard.

And Howard kind of gave me the whole rundown of what he's planning to do. And his very charismatic guy, great guy. And we became good friends for a time period. And then I said, who's else is investing?

And I looked at the names that go, oh my gosh. OK, I said, whatever they're doing, I'm going to do. And that's all that. That's how it started. And so you were like, one of the first ten.

One of the first ten. Wow. Yeah. Is this like massively important move-wise in your financial, whatever you have today?

Yeah. Yeah. OK. Why? Of course.

But you weren't even thinking of like, you weren't like, oh, I'm going to be like a guy who's investing all the time and everything. You're, oh, yes. Oh, you were.

I like, yeah, I'm always interested.

Yeah, I get uncle. Oh, really? I actually do my own accounting. Oh, that is. I don't have an business.

This is her dream. This is like, oh, she wants to do it. It's like being a spreadsheet. The other day, I sent him a use chat, GBT, or chat. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. To, you were saying I always set it wrong. Yeah, I know what you say, GBT. I like it. I think it's smoother.

It's a smoother way to say it. I know.

“I think a lot of people were saying I know that.”

GBT, OK. So I was using it to help you understand it. Yeah, that's something you guys are doing. Yeah, you guys are doing it. Yeah.

So you feel, honestly, and haven't you probably never felt that way before, but anyone else you've ever seen in your life made me not as much. No, I'm saying. Is it green? No, I was saying.

No, he's not as much with you. You may be not saying much about it. Yeah. More you than that, probably. I swear, if you watched a documentary of me, and you were just sitting

in the room, you'd be like, you would have the same feeling. I saw this guy at the airport a few years ago, who's been a dick, and it reminded me of me. No, I'm not a dick, but I'm told I can come across that way because I'm factual, and I'm just like, here's some information.

And then there's something to say, whoa, I came off cross hard, I go, what do you mean? I came across hard. I was trying this. It's very helpful.

I agree. You would just be like, you know what I understand. But by the way, I've learned that that's not good. Well, I do it, and I really, I think I do it in this goofy, like, charming way. And you know, I get away with that.

I'm not going to the way with it. I don't think I'm annoying. Well, I don't know. I don't have to be gotten feedback that is too tough and too hard. No.

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- I prefer this way of communication,

and I think that when you're direct,

“I think so often when you have to communicate with certain people,”

and you have to change, just because you know how they're gonna perceive it or receive it, then it's like this extra layer of work, where you could just be direct, and there was no hard feelings.

- Yeah, but the world doesn't work like that, I wish. So I've actually learned to be a lot softer without my other way I do, I like it better. How do you know who to be softer on and who to be direct around? - I just, this branch stands at this area.

- I just kind of just figure it out, but my go-to is to, giving the information, my go-to is more to ask the question. Like I'll say, let's say I think you're completely wrong about something, and instead of saying,

here's why you're wrong, and I'm gonna show you the right way. - Said that, I'll say, you'll drag 'em around. - I'll say something around. - Okay, tell me why you think that's such a good idea. - I mean, I think that's more offensive, personally,

but I'm not receiving it. I'm like, oh, you're, like, you're trying to-- - No, you do it the way he just did it. Like, if you have, but I'll think you're offensive. I like the original.

- Can you do it? (laughs)

- Now, Chris, and you know I've always dreamt of coming to Michigan

for a summer, it's all I've ever wanted to do with you, since you guys-- - What are you doing? - I think I'm coming now, and you know what's gonna come with me, I might just have to pack a little friend with me.

And this is a whiteball peach. - And what's that? A whiteball mango, and what's another flavor we're bringing? - Black cherry. - Black cherry.

- Summer is a white-class summer we're gonna have fun, we're gonna grab a life-finic law, but we're only allowed to say one word now. (upbeat music) - Five.

- Will. - Happen. - Immediately. - When? - We.

- Open. - White? - Claw. - Please drink responsibly. Hard-sellance of flavors, white-class好吃 works,

Chicago, Illinois. - Cut it out, I'm gonna sip it right now. - Do you work out in that, or are you work out in taking basketball shorts? - Sure, sure.

- This morning, I worked out, I woke up at 5.30. No, 5.15 this morning. - Yeah. - I got a little extra early 'cause I knew I needed to be here a certain time.

- Yeah, you got your hair? - No, that was the easy part. - You didn't do hair? - You just dry it and shake it around and check it. - I, I, I, I called it with my fingers in the shower

'cause I need, you need, you need no, no bone. - No condition. - Uh, yeah, that, it gets it wet. And then there's a little bit of some cream that I put in there, defining cream, right?

And then there's the name of the company. Okay, they changed the formula and made it way worse. And you can't get the older one anymore. I've gone on eBay, I've, I've scoured the earth and I've gotten all of the old ones

“that I've got like a, that's what I've got like,”

like four or five of them. - I do, too. - That there's like this, I look in like, this is gold. - Yeah. - Oh, like, today's an important thing.

- I'm gonna use a little bit of that. - Yeah. - And then the other days I use the new crap that they got. - What, what is the difference between the new crap and the old stuff?

It really doesn't hold, what is it? - It's totally different, okay. - You shouldn't email them. - I have. I tried to call, I said this and can I talk to the owner?

- Of course, you're product for nothing. - Kenny, you have to wait, you have to know how much this is, I haven't thought we were the same in the thing until right now. I, there's one cream that I use.

I have a long list of creams I use. And there's one that I use. And I heard a rumor that they were gonna be, - Going out of business. - By it out, bro.

I have, you know, I have over 500 bottles. - Correct. - And I use them because I'm not like you, I can't do. I can't spare on the one day. I, I need a full lather every day.

So I have, and I notice though, that I'm starting to get close to the end of the bottles. I probably-- - About the 500 bottles, this was like 15 years ago. I probably only have like, I probably,

no, it doesn't exist, I can't do it. I look on eBay, anytime anyone comes up on eBay, buy all of them. - Yeah, good.

“- And you should do it for a perfume too.”

- You guys should start a hair company, the three of you. - Oh my God. - Hey, you know what? - Yeah, you want to wear a necklace. - You want to wear a necklace?

- You want to wear a necklace. - What we should do, there's what we should do. - I have this idea since the '80s. - Okay. - Okay.

- Okay, Laurel, Laurel. I wouldn't say the name, Laurel, because I'm worth it. You know, the whole thing. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay.

- So I've been pitching that idea, well, whoever I'm pitching it to, agents, talk to Laurel. - You're telling me there no one's ever reached out to do a hair thing with you? - No.

- You're actively pitching it. - Well, I don't have the three of us together. I think it will be, 'cause we got all the curls. What if we did a commercial together for like a Laurel, or maybe a head and shoulder not gonna happen?

- Never wants to. Whoever wants to three people, they're divided by three. But I have a front-of-own company, make our own commercials, okay. - Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm not gonna say it.

- I'm not gonna say it. - I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. - Okay. - How often do you take on new friends?

- It's a slow thing for me to slow. It should be slow. - Oh, tell me how. - We're not gonna be interested. - We're a little bit about this song.

- We're gonna slow. You take a long time to kind of be friend people. - Peace. - I know exactly what he's talking about. I wouldn't want the social pressure

of having to start a kind of,

just know I would never even approach it.

- He's gonna answer all my questions for me. - He's gonna answer. - Whatever you say, that's what he's slow. - It's a slow. - Yeah.

"I want to be your best friend." I would be like, "Check out what you met me." - You met me and they stepped over at my house and then you'd never, and then you'd throw a few of my best friends

in the first day out of the room. - I did you guys meet each other when I once you sleep in this house on the first day. - No, no, it was over a long period of time. - I put my music out.

- He saw how he reached out. - Did you produce him as well? - I do, I do all of his music with him now, but at the time he put out his music the first day. And I was known, he wasn't known yet.

- You do use pro tools or what do you guys do? - I use pro tools. - I'm a explorer of nudging a lot. - Me too. - As I produce all my own stuff and mix it.

- Yeah. - And I'm like, "I love nudging." - Absolutely, nudging is everything. - I know it's interesting.

I've never said this out loud,

but I don't even know who to talk to, you guys were appreciate it. My whole career for the first 10 years of making music, every audio take I found with sound better with five nudges of like 0.005 to the right.

10 years ago, what would satisfy me to listen to? And probably what was probably similar, even in rap would be that it would be nudged to the right.

“I believe that rap and I know for a fact it has,”

it has evolved in a place where it's actually cooler to be a little-- - No, but that's not why. You know why their sounds are nudged to always a head of the beat because the MP3s that they're getting

have a little gap at the beginning and nobody is moving it exactly on beat. So when they wrap on it and then it gets transferred to the mix, it's always a head of the-- - I don't know.

- That's not why. It's just, no, it's a stylistic choice. - No, it is. - Yes it is. The style of rapping is now early.

- It might be a stylistic choice. - It might be a stylistic choice.

- It might be a stylistic choice at this point,

but it originated from that. - I'm not sure if. - I only care about the present day and-- - No, I'm saying it originated like a year or two ago or three years ago like that.

It's because everyone talks about it. I mentioned when all these guys talk about the same thing. Whatever. - I'm listening. - Sorry, the data don't talk to that.

- So you're saying the, the guys that's rapping is ahead of the beat are behind the beat. - Yeah, present day, it's more and more popular to be ahead of the beat. - More than ever.

- You go back and listen to even old Drake songs, they're more nudged in the car and the OG pop. - I'm just the opposite, I'm behind the beat. But I play it that way, I don't have to nod you. I just know how to play it.

I'm just slightly, slightly behind 'cause that's where it feels right to me. - How often are you in the studio? - Not that often. - Yeah.

- Only when I'm making a record or playing a solo for somebody and then other than that, I don't really even want to go in. - Are you inspired anymore to like, are you ever just like, oh, like, I gotta go in the studio? - Yeah, sometimes.

- And then you'll follow that. - Then I'll follow that. - Just go that way. - You still practice at the same regimen? - I practice this morning for three hours already.

- Wow, every day. Every day. - Every day. - Every single day. - Every day of the year, every day.

- Every day. - Would you mind just, just for two seconds showing us something? - We want to see, I just want to see you blow that horn. - Wow, I can't believe you practice for three hours. - You practice for three hours every day.

- Yeah. - Yes. - Every day. - What do you do for you? - Are you listening to your underwear

just on the couch, practice? - Say to my short. - But is it even, is it more than you believe

“that that's what it takes to remain as good as you are?”

And it's not that you love practicing it for three hours. It's more that's just unfortunately. That's how long it takes for you to be this good. - It's both. - Both of those things.

- Hello? - If you want to stay great at something, you got to practice it all the time. - Yeah. - I love it because I love practice.

- Just playing still brings you just as much joy. - Yeah, yeah. - So the recording, you don't care about so much. - Here's why I don't love recording. You write in a while?

- Yeah, Tom. - I won't think of you analogy. - Okay. - This is what it's recording like to me. You're looking at the mirror and you go,

what happened if I just took one hair off my eyebrow? Let me try that. I think about that for a while. Now I'm gonna put it back up. Let me try this, it's just fine, tune in, right on the plane.

It's like, what if I use the vibrato on the first note? So it's way too much to work about. And I have to explore it all to know that I'm talking about the no stone on turn method. - Exactly.

- That's what I live my life. - No, where I know.

“- You just don't even, that's why you don't like doing it”

'cause you don't even wanna download it. - Because it's too much, really. - And then finally, finally, I'll listen to the song and I'll go, there's nothing about it that I didn't like.

Fine, we're done. - That's how I am. - I swear on my life, that's what I'm talking about. - And then any presses play after the song's release and realizes there's a huge error in the game.

- Exactly, and then I never listen again.

- Yeah. - I swear to God, I swear on God how I live that thing out. - I love it, yeah, when you say that, that's exactly the way it is. - Only.

- You're just, some people, like, you know, some people, they make a record on Tuesday night. Tuesday night, how about, you take, you can take a year from me to make a record. If you're producing somebody else's,

to me it feels like it'll be easier. You're not so meticulous. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I know, I'm very meticulous because at the beginning of my career,

like, a really good batting average,

“where, like, almost everything I did was like,”

- Great. - How great for you? - And then it became, like, a thing I was known for. - Great. - So then, pressure pressure.

- So I had to be so meticulous for years and I had to say number one, I had to be the youngest guy doing it. And I had to be the guy with the most number one. And it was like, in my head, and then one day,

I was just like, fuck it, I don't give a shit anymore. I don't care. - Great. - And then I started, I'm still so meticulous and I am on my own music.

And it's just my personality. I have a lot of OCD I pay attention to a lot. - But I can see it. - And I, I like it, I love it. - No, and it's so important.

In anything I do, they say they're the best part about being friends with me is I plan every single thing for the whole life. - I'm not like that. Are you like that?

- I have somebody that does that for me. - But I want that. - I want that too. - I want that too. - I am.

- I am that person. Can we play over here so I can,

“I want to, I want to be able to sit down and watch them.”

- Oh my God, I'm so excited. - Oh God. - Do you need more water, Kenny? - No, I'm good. - Sure.

(laughing) - Oh my God, that's so good right now. - And you haven't had this anymore. - Can you believe we got Kenny G here, Saxon Hand, just like playing for us?

This is Kenny, you know? So if he's gonna have a Saxon Hand, I might have this peach white cloth hand because good times are happening. Just imagine Kenny sitting there, Saxon Hat.

I'm pouring this white cloth on my mouth. Maybe every now and then I shifted over and poured down Kenny's head. Kenny is gonna grab the Sax by the claw. I'm gonna grab the white claw.

I'm gonna grab my life by the claw. But I just thought I should speak to you and let you know that I'm thrilled. Kenny, Saxon Hand Kenny. I gotta get back to Kenny.

There's just something about music and especially like pouring instruments. Watching it instantly smile. I can't. And he's looking at me like that.

Wow, wow, oh my. - No, I'm just a readjust. You know, with the Sax, like the read, it's gotta, it takes like almost a half hour until this readjust gonna be really playing good.

So I'm doing the best I can, yeah. - You have to warm up. - Yeah, I gotta get wet. - Gotta get wet. (laughing)

- I thought I'm stuck. - Yeah, I was just thinking, I was just thinking, - I was stuck. - I was stuck to David about that. - You gotta get it wet.

- You gotta get wet? - My man. All right, just, just look at me one more time and blow that read. (eerie music)

- So, yeah. - Is that some jazz stuff? - Yeah. - So, what do I practice every day? I'll practice like, yeah, I'll show us the right way.

(eerie music) - You know, exercises like that, you know. (eerie music) - I'm sure you're neighbors now. - Well, what happened if you took a month off

and you went back and you did that same thing. You do it way sloppy. - It's not a good question. - Those words, I don't even know what those words mean. - You don't know.

- Those aren't words that you just said.

“- So, have you been playing the saxophone every year?”

- But every year. - What if you're sick? - I don't even take a day off. - What if you're sick? - I don't, what do you mean if I'm sick, you know?

- If I get sick, I super-actors. - What if you sort it through? - I super-actors. - Oh, so it's OCD. - It's OCD at this point if you're doing it every day.

- Yeah, he thought OCD. - That's it. - It's what's required to stay. - How do you know you've ever seen what the alternative is?

- I already know. - You don't know. - I do know.

- How could you know you've never done it?

- Because. - You don't know because I can tell you already why. Here's why. So, the sax and the mouth. - Yeah.

- So there's all these muscles. - Yeah. - So they're not going to be used for a month, but then they got to get used to being played again. - Yeah.

- Okay. - So, you're not going to be as good? - I don't know. - You've never done it. - You've ever burned the roof of your mouth.

- Like no, I got a hot pizza? - Yeah. - Every now and then. - Does it ruin playing? - It takes, it puts my attention where it shouldn't be.

- There's all of that. - You know, like, if you make yourself uncomfortable, when you get uncomfortable, then you still can function. - Yeah. - So, a lot of people can't function.

They get too nervous. They get uncomfortable. And this, like, well, I was good in the practice room, but as soon as I walked on stage, oh, like, yeah, you do have to know

that you can handle that in there. - Yeah. - And I am so supportive of that, and I think that's the only way to be. I totally, like, I am a product of like the 10,000 hour,

what, like, I'm work my ass off, et cetera. My only point is, you don't know if you took one day off, maybe it wouldn't affect you at all.

Two days, maybe you've never tested the limits of that.

- That going through. - And the reason you're not going to is just OCD,

I understand, I just want you to admit it. - I don't know, man. I can't, I can't just agree with you. - With the facts in hand.

You've never, you don't know.

You just don't know. There's no world first off. - That's right.

“- A month on, I could've seen, like, yeah,”

most likely you're gonna be, maybe it takes two hours to get it back. - Are you saying that I would be the only human being on earth that could not work at something, and be just as good by not working on it more mentally.

- No, I don't know. - And I've been running around yourself. - And then you're just proving my point. - No, it's not, it's not all or nothing thing. Like, you don't have to work every single day, seven days a week,

no matter, like, yes. - Interesting, you've had such great success, and I too would have OCD and be absolutely married to the technique that got me there. All I'm saying is, for someone,

and I'm just, I suffer from the same shit, but the no stone unturned method would have you find out your own limits. And I know that your limits are gonna change, but you might find that those extra three hours,

you're gonna have more, and maybe not, and maybe that's not a bad argument. You're making a good argument, I wouldn't give you that.

- Would you like it to impact your life at all?

I feel like it's worked really well for, like, - Maybe, but you're an optimizer, and maybe you are doing the optimizer, and maybe this three hours, you are gonna be the happiest playing the saxophone.

You just have to learn that. - Those are very good arguments, I cannot argue with your arguments. - Thank you. - Yeah, maybe I'm just gonna test. - I could be just scared to try it,

because I don't want to lose my skill. - Fc, popcorn chicken is back. - Did you know? - Well, I know now, but I kind of knew 'cause it's in front of me, but I am very excited about it.

- Fuck. - That is fun. That is a fun thing to do. - Sometimes I watch a TV show, and I get popcorn chicken, I eat it like it's popcorn,

I just watch in the show, and then I realize that I've eaten, like, 36 popcorn. - Oh, oh, oh. - I hope the camera just caught me, touching it and I'm out perfectly.

- Okay, popcorn chicken, while you can, at KFC, in the $10 bucket, I like that one.

“- Do you think you're the best in the world at the bat?”

- I think I'm one of, I mean, there's a lot of great sax players. - You ever gotten jealous when you've been in front of this? - Never get jealous. - Do you like sports, like big, are you a big sports fan? - I'm not a big sports watcher, no.

Except I used to watch golf a lot. - What do you do for fun? - I watch movies, and I like to organize stuff, like I love my favorite thing to do. - And tweaking my stuff, I love it.

- You know what I was doing this morning? - I'd be back in one second. - I was reorganizing, I was reorganizing, all my books in this one shelf, because they were, did you love that, did you love that?

- I mean, I'm an ultimate organizer. My kitchen, great. - You open up my refrigerator, it's like you're watching it. - Okay, look, take a picture of that. - Up your refrigerator, I'm gonna sit, send to me.

- Oh, you keep your refrigerator very clean.

- No, but I want to, I always love it when I see that,

and then I plan on it, and I started, like kind of started, and then it just doesn't stay that way. - Mine's perfect. - It's perfect at all. All of everything in my house, you would love it.

I'm so obsessed with just like order, and like, and book really good organization and little boxes where things go in. - I have a lot of stuff around my house that's kind of like, - Yeah, I don't like clutter.

- What's your style? Like what's your home style? Like decor, you care about home decor? - Oh yeah, it does.

“- Well, we don't know, we didn't see it.”

- I self-documented, I saw the beautiful home. - Oh yeah, we were having it. - You like stone. Do you like stone? - I like stone enough.

(laughing) I mean, we're in funny crisis. You laughed after you asked the crisis. You're like stone. - I thought when I watched your documentary,

I was like, you like stone. - The look of the white with the dark roof and the floor and all that stuff. - Have you ever seduced a woman with this stuff? Have you ever been in a bedroom?

- Yeah. Like as like a little kangaroo. - Where? - You've been naked playing the saxophone before. - Not sure about that.

- You have it? I'm not sure. - I'm sure. - I'm sure if I was naked when I had was playing it, but I was, yeah, I've done that before.

- You've, there's been a part where before the deed is happening, there's been a saxophone that's led to the deed. - Yes, yes. - Do you have a saxophone right next to your bed?

- No. - No, no, no. - When I'm done practicing in the morning, I was like, oh, I'm done, I'm done. - I'm done.

- Why can you hold your breath for? - Well, I can hold a note for a long time 'cause I can breathe at the same time. So I can sustain a note for like, - It's not about circular breathing.

- Yeah. - Like circular breathing. I can do it for half hour. - What's circular? - What is that?

What is that? You might, you might hold a note for a long time. - I'm holding a note for a few hours. - Yeah, if you don't have time in your show for all that, but...

- Is that something that you worked for or you have naturally worked on? - No, I worked on it. - If three hours of practice. - Okay, give us a long note.

- But is there some people who are born with the inability, no question, no amount of work will ever let them have the circular breathing? - That's no, no, anybody can do it. Okay, train themselves correctly.

- Are you sure? - Or there's, they may, they just don't have the, have the, um, the mindset. - Coordination. - Oh.

- Are you breathing out and, and at the, how do you, what's circular breathing? - But breathing out is through the sacks. - And then you're breathing in here, no. - Yeah.

(upbeat music) - He's never breathing.

(upbeat music) - That's crazy.

Do you know what yours was me listening for?

- The breath. - Yeah, like he doesn't, there's no breath. (upbeat music) - I'll say he can do it for an hour. (upbeat music)

- I'm not out of breath. - Are you the only person next to that? - No, I'm not the only person to do that, but I'm probably, but I don't want to sound like a meagotistical, but I don't think anybody

can do it better than that. - But wait, so if you weren't doing that, then I would hear the breath when playing. - Well, I would be going like this. (upbeat music)

- I like the way you're doing it. (upbeat music) - I'll be taking a breath again, play the next thing, but I don't have to do that, 'cause I'm breathing while I'm playing.

- It's amazing. - Well, anybody can train themselves to do it? - Well, yeah, I can teach you how to do it.

“- Well, what happened in the day before David loved it?”

- There's something about it. You're holding my breath as a woman. - I teach you how to blow in, you don't have to, come up for air, you don't love it. - Oh yeah, I don't love hand.

No, he doesn't like that. - He doesn't like that. - He doesn't like that? - No. - You do like it.

- No, he doesn't like it. - She knows exactly what to do, but I am predisposed not to like head as much as most mad, 'cause I actually had penis surgery as a kid and like the--

- Is that true? - Is all this true? - Yeah. - You started it about that. - His whole shell was based off of his fucked up dick.

- Is that true? - Yeah. - Not his whole personality is rooted in that trauma. - Oh yeah. - For real, probably.

- His name's little duly. - My right name is little duly. - That's true. - Yeah, for real? - Yeah, do you have a fucked up dick or a normal one?

- Normal? - Oh yeah. - If you were a fucked up dick, man, I wouldn't, I don't even know. You wouldn't be able to leave.

- Because we then were soaked too soon. - Yeah, we were left. - The only other person who had his dick is fucked up as him as Hitler. - Adolf Hitler did have the same.

He actually had the same disease. The same disease, sorry about that. - I can't tell he's kidding or not. - No, this is not kidding. - No, okay.

- This is true. - I'm sorry about that to you. Like I can't tell if you're serious or not, or no.

- No, 'cause people always say that to me.

“And I think that's part of my personality”

that I relate with you about, on the spoke. - Hey, did you guys know that Ali Pop is back with brand new but retro packaging? - Hi. - Did I ever look at this?

Are you out of your mind? - McCool, I think I got the best one, of course. - It's very art-see, very cool, very retro. - It's both new and old. - It makes me so happy.

- By any two cans of Ali Pop is so. By any two cans of Ali Pop and the stores, and they'll pay you back one for one. - For one. - For one. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - You're gonna go there, drink.

- Ali Pop, I got it. - Bye. - By any two cans of Ali Pop is so hard. - And they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to alldrinkallipop.com. - What? - Slash FK, yes.

- No. - No. - Sometimes sooner than later, like, let's say within a month or two months, yeah. - We should get together and then, like, go out. - Yeah. - Have a good night.

- Have a good night. - Have a good night. - Let's bring our partners. - We don't push the social envelope at all. - But we go with you. - No, I won't. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

- You're not gonna hang out with us alone. - It's only gonna be, we're also busy. So it's gonna be, like, hey, in two, three months, let's go to this restaurant and mark your talent.

“- Let's do that. - That's how I like it.”

- That's me, too. - I just, we hit this pod, Kenny, let's see how good you are. - Aren't you like a scratch, go, like, I used to. - No, okay, here's the deal with this game. This is how it works. - I'm not.

- Teach me a guru. - What I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna shoot this shot, put this pot. - Process of elimination. - Why don't we bet on, like,

the first round of drinks or something? - You go first.

- No. - Jackpot. - Nope. - That's a good pot. - How often do you play golf? - Not very often anymore. - I got only so good, and then I couldn't get any better, and then that, and the world accepts that. - No, okay.

- I don't have any idea how hard to hit this thing. - Yeah, I understand, Kenny. - Looks like he did it too hard. - Oh gosh, darn it. - Oh, I see. - Looks like you suck, Kenny.

- Oh, good. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - That was like the warm-up round. - Now let's play. - Whoever's the closest right now wins. - Great, Stan. - It does. - Oh, that's a good pot that I'm gonna win.

- Whoa, that was great. - Chuck, did you hit it light? - I don't know, I blacked out. - Oh my god, honey. - Wow, honey. - Yeah, it's too hard.

- Oh, I got some of these paying for the wine. - Okay, and this is just for the glory. - Yeah, I'm paying for the wine. - Oh, good. - Okay. - Planet safe, honey.

- Oh, that's so hard, let's get it. - No problem. - Good, all right, you win, hey. - Well, you guys still have to do your hair company. - Super ball smile, I hope we do it here.

- Come on, honey, you gotta get that shot. - It's awesome. - Literally making a, that's literally why I was going on my phone. I swear my life, love it. - I was already made, I'm an, I'm an ideas man

- Would you say I'm an idea man? - Yeah. - You know, when I was a kid, my name's David Bird. Be worthy, and I was just typed in DavidBird.com. And there was one website, and there was a man

who was like, was an older man, and it just said, "David Bird, idea man." - Wow. - It convinced that, like, it was like me and the future. And there was an email, that said, like,

I don't know, an email of the man, and I said, "David Bird, like, I convinced, you might be me in the future, I'm giving this a shot." That's really the end of the story.

- Are you never met him or anything?

- No, I never smoked. - I never smoked. - I have one, quite other question, that because I know we're nearing the end of this process. Now, what happens for you now, like, when you go outside

is it still create, are people coming up to ask him for pictures all the time? - All the time. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause you're like, you recognizeable.

You're like, you're like, I thought I was the most recognizable man because there's not that many people who look like me, but he's equally like, there's no men that look like Kenny. - Yeah, it's true.

I've seen pictures of you now that I now see a face, I've seen picture of you, and being a loser. - No, no, somewhere, but just, yeah. - So, the face is familiar, yes, yes, yes, yes. - So, I've seen your face around.

- Maybe, what was it? People's top.

“- He's, honestly, kind of, he's overexposed.”

If you ask me. - Oh, yeah. - It's one of your biggest men, people's. - Yeah, you know what? Actually, you want to know something so funny.

I actually got voted. People magazine's sexiest man. - Seriously? - One year? - You were on your win?

- Okay, my favorite. - My favorite.

- Stop the trend right here.

You weren't voted. People magazine's sexiest man. You were one of, - No, wait, yeah, I was one. - 75 people involved in the article that I think, oh, I think it comes from the result

of a good publicist and the right time in someone's career. I'll tell you, I'll tell you. - That's not nice at all. - You know, I'm a very acquired taste.

I know that. I know that. - It's physically. - Physically, yeah. Me and Dave, talk about it, I'm so ugly

that I popped out the other side. And now, I don't think you're gonna be saying that at all. - That's his quote. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I made this up. I feel like I'm so ugly that popped out the other side

that I'm so hot. I'm like, I feel like-- - We're like, he's saying, you're like, - I do like, I love you. - He's like, with the level of confidence.

- And so, no, I think my soul is hot. - I think my features are just so crazy that it makes me hot. - You were, I feel like, when I look at you, you're a unique face.

- Yeah. - I don't think I've ever met anybody that looks like you. - Oh, yeah. - And the more I talk to you, - You wanna sleep with me?

(laughing) - You'd like to play sax for me, I'm sure, you know. - I could be talked into it. - I don't know. (laughing)

“- No, you, I think people get better looking.”

- Yeah, yeah. - If you, if they're good for me, yeah. - They're good for me, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - They become much more beautiful.

- Yeah, that's the reason when you came in. And now I'm like-- - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, exactly. - I was so lucky.

- Yeah, I got so lucky. I married the most beautiful woman in the world and the nicest woman in the world.

- I don't know, I've never met her,

but what I've seen when she does her thing? - Yeah, yeah. - She seems nice and funny and funny. - Yeah, and they're best friends. - Yeah.

- We're all, you know, he's my best friend. And then, they started dating, and then it's like, she's my best girlfriend. - Yeah. - And then, yeah, it's like, you're not like there.

- It works perfect. - Great. - It works perfectly. Well, maybe we'll be best friends with your partner. - Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, she's great. - It's gonna be slow. - Don't you mean her? - I met her at an event like 10 years ago. - Me and great?

- Wait, what'd you say? - Me and great. - Oh, me and great. - Oh, I'm meeting great. - No, I'm meeting great.

- What did you think he said? - I thought you said something. - I thought you said something. - I thought you said something. - I thought you said meeting. - No, I said meeting great.

- Are you having fun? - Great time. - Okay, great. - I couldn't tell if it was fake or not. - Seriously?

- I couldn't tell if I could tell. - I could tell. - I could tell it's real. - No, I'm totally real. - Okay, good.

- Totally real, no. - 'Cause you're saying it's maybe the most fun you've had in like a calendar month independent of any family and parents events. - Yeah.

- I would say that's true. - You say it's in the top five interviews of your life. - I would say that's true, too. - Really? - In your life?

- In my life. - I'll tell you why. - Yeah, because this is, it's a lot of reasons. - Please, it's all of three personalities. - Yeah.

- You know, you're, you're like my mini. - My god. - Yeah, you're funny and smart and got all sorts of stuff going on. - You ask, ask really fun questions. - And you're that.

- And you're fun. - And it's easy to just kind of just do think. - Yeah, you're awesome. - Yeah, you're awesome. - Yeah, we were really excited about you.

- We knew you were gonna be fun. - Oh, I'm glad you think so. - 'Cause this is my dream of worship. 'Cause I don't even feel it as though it's even felt like an interview.

I feel like an interview. - I feel like a close burn out. - I'm thinking like maybe we need another two hours to get what we want out. - Kenny, before you go.

“- Drunk, do I have to watch you guys do you wanna do something?”

- Let me ask you. - Do you have a chip on your shoulder as an artist? - In what way?

- That's an interesting question.

- It's a really good question. - Thanks, came out of nowhere.

“- Not to love that, I love that about you.”

- Yeah. - The only, I would say that I have a chip on my shoulder in this way, so it doesn't really apply these days, 'cause in the past, you had a record deal. Okay, record company signs artists.

Then I feel like, okay, you're not good enough to be signed, but you got signed, got signed because why? I'm really proud of being an artist, work my ass off to get my skill level. Okay, I get the record deal, you shouldn't have that record deal.

- Yeah, so I get a little ship on my shoulder about that. Too many people got signed that didn't deserve it. - Yeah. - That's my thing. - It doesn't last long with chip.

It's just an observation or something. - Yeah, you don't really carry it with you. - No, yeah. - No, I don't carry, I don't, I don't walk around with, I don't carry anything with you.

- 'Cause you've got a lot of record deal. - Any time I get mad about something or what was that? - It's gone like in a minute. - Is it always that one? - Yeah.

- Do you meditate? - No.

“That's why I'm always, like, so you don't, I just do one thing.”

- No. - So that we're different than that we're going to do. - You don't stay. - And maybe I don't stay. - Maybe I still less than I think.

- You really don't stay. - You gotta move forward. - You just can't ever do. - There's no way, I guess I don't stay. - I guess I don't stay.

- 'Cause the opposite of two, you're like me.

You just get up and then you do it and you've never stood.

And you just do indecision. Not once you've done it. - You've been doing it last for weeks. No, I mean, I'm, I'm self aware enough to know that the, the, the, the, the, the doing is never outward.

It's never like because of other people, but it's more all internal stewing. Like, oh, I said the wrong thing. I did the wrong thing. - She, like, I don't know how you are.

I bet it's pretty similar to me. Like, I walk around kind of knowing not out of arrogance. Just at like an analysis of the facts at hand, like I am great. And I can do, and I'm a good person.

And I do a lot of great things. Like the loop of dialogue in my head is so like, supportive and lifts me up to be my best version. Her inner dialogue is the opposite. - Well, no, sometimes it's like that.

I'm working on it. - Well, but just, you're more, it's like, is it like mine, where it's, you're not just, she's pretty exposed. Like, after we were done sometimes,

she might be like, I feel like I said the wrong thing.

- Well, it's like you always want to improve.

I'm always trying to improve. - Yeah, she's a pro. - Perfectionist. - But I might say the same thing like that, but she says, I want to,

maybe I shouldn't have done that with whatever, but it doesn't last long. - Yeah. - It's like, I can't do anything about it. - I can do something about it, I'll do something about it.

- Yeah. - But if I can't, I gotta let it go. - Maybe I'll adopt that. - Look at the saxophone we put on our microphone. - That's so cute. - That is really cute.

- I did that for you, Kenny. - Oh my God, that's so cute. - Yeah, I go take a look. - Wait, can you play any other instruments? - You know, I'm not gonna eat great.

- I play enough to like, write songs. I play my piano parts, but not that you're, you're not great enough if everyone's eating. - Can you play the flute? - I can play the flute.

- Oh, yeah. - The clarinet too, right? - The clarinet too, yeah.

“- 'Cause you have to learn to play the clarinet”

to be able to play the saxophone. - No, when you're driving in the car, listen to music, yeah, jazz. - I don't listen much to music in the car. - I keep you quiet, usually.

- What type of music do you listen to? That's not jazz. - Old jazz, I don't know, that's all I listen to. - You're listening to rap? - No.

- Can I have a cell phone number? And I can text you. - Yeah. - You can have my cell phone number. - Kenny, would you put your number in me?

- We put a lot of jazz on in our house. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - When we bought it, when we bought the house,

we would just play energy all the time. - I'll try some serious things. - Yeah. - We're gonna have the pictures of you. - I want to listen to you, Claire.

- We could even do when we all hang out. We could do like a really long hang out. - We could go to each person's house. - All right, and that's a rap on Kenny G. - Thank you.

- Thank you, bro. - That was so great fun, yeah. (upbeat music)