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Okay, so today we're going to be covering something that I actually, it's like a phenomenon that I have been very, I don't know, I've been like completely vacant on, which is this whole phenomenon on love island. It's like a whole thing. It's a whole thing.
Am I the only person not watching it that has absolutely zero idea of what's going on with this whole thing?
“No, I think a lot of people don't watch it, but honestly, it's just a phenomenal show.”
Different seasons. Different seasons. Different seasons create better or worse seasons, like it's not, they're not all equal. Like genuinely, there are some summers where love island is horrible, and you just stop watching.
Okay, give me a hold on. Now you just, you just caught me off guard, how many seasons are there? On the UK one, they're in the teens, they're like the season 15 or something. Oh, my God. So am I literally living under a rock?
Yeah, I mean, it's been going on for a long time. I've been watching the UK love islands in season one. Okay, so this is the thing. I don't have time to watch reality TV.
I was never, I watched the real housewives, probably the first two or three seasons for
the New York one, maybe like a hundred years ago. Oh, wow. I don't have time. I would like to put it out there. Like who has time, if you have kids and a career and all these things, who has time to watch
reality TV? Well, you would say the same thing with people who don't have time to work out. No, I wouldn't, because that is really good for your mind and body. But to some people, that's a priority. Entertainment is a priority.
Hold on. Reality TV is a priority. Yes, how does it make you better to some people, they prioritize entertainment.
“And so it's just a matter of, okay, I think what you have time for in life is just a matter”
of what you prioritize. So, yes, true, but I, I'm going to have to stop you there, because if you can actually sit here in, in, with, with a straight face and tell me watching reality TV is the same kind of situation as like exercising, it's completely, you know what I'm saying? It's a matter of prioritizing.
Right. I'm saying you asked the same question to a lot of people who say, I don't have time to work out. I'm a parent. So many moms say that all the time or so many parents say that all the time.
How when you have kids, can you possibly get the gym every day? Everybody uses that. So, a lot of people would say the same thing. I think the response is the same response to both of those questions. Okay.
Let, okay, let me do in life you have time for what you make time for. That is true, and I, I will have to agree with you on that. But I will say the benefits of what you get from working out are very much outweigh, what happens when you watch reality when they're fighting and competitiveness and all these things. Okay.
So, that's the first thing.
And I understand that people will watch it maybe kind of just a two note and kind of just have something like, just to kind of get their mind off of whatever stress is in their life. Okay.
“With that being said, is love island like the biggest reality show right now?”
Whatever happened to like real housewives or blowdack and all these other shows. So, we're just saying what the biggest is because when you're in it and you're in the fandom and you're like seeing all, like you're algorithm is so full of that stuff and for you, it's bigger. But I don't necessarily think, I don't know, actually.
Is there a lot? That's a good question. Actually, they did cancel a season of the Bachelor at with Frankie. Oh, I saw it. Oh, I saw it.
And honestly, the Mormon girl, right? Yeah. But I think that was the craziest thing because they air movies, TV sports games with plenty of people who've been accused and convicted of so many things. And yet this one woman who like threw a chair at a guy who was honestly super abusive already,
like now has her entire season taken off. Also, it's reality TV. I don't want to see the morally ethical, like, break-ins of a life on reality TV. True. I'm looking for messy, like, air that season, the fact that they have an air that
season is crazy. Well, I think it's because of the backlash they'll get. Like, I think it's so many viewers. Oh, the money they made. Wait, but hold on, hold on.
This is a really good topic. And I'll tell you why. I know that this for whatever reason I do know, because it's such a so-and-as-i, guys. I think why that was different is that she, the girl, whatever her name is. I think that not only did she store a chair at the guy, but she didn't in front of her
kid. So I thought they thought that was, like, somewhat of abusive or, you know, very traumatic
For a kid.
But I get a lot of these same guys and then, I mean, the NFL literally is playing out
every single game without least somebody who's, like, been, you know, accused and serious to make a abuse. Like, that's so many NFL. That's true. Particularly.
“But I think ABC is a network that has to have that airs football.”
I mean, who does NFL football? I don't know. Who does Monday night football? She's a-I'm just saying all these guys are all these, all these networks are the same. And they just will cancel some, but like, they just so frequently women are held to such
a higher account than so many of these guys who get away with so many more things. I mean, the fact that, like, all the wives of the men in the abstinence are the ones who are being asked the questions about their husbands, I find so funny. But yet none of the husbands are being asked any questions. Like, it's just hilarious.
That's a great point of apologizing for, I'm like, what the hell did the Linda do? Like, this is just weird. Oh my gosh. We live in an upside down world. That is another great point.
This is why I like, this is why I like you as my foil because you have an opinion on everything. I do. And a good one at that, I think that's actually very, I feel like that whole Epstein thing is very, it's become a very tired topic, but at the same time, it's extremely relevant. And I think everybody just tries not everybody, there's certain people who in the upper
echelons just keep on trying to like put it under the rug. But yet, I think that's 100% true. Like, why, you write your scene, like, you're seeing Hillary Clinton on, it'd be, like, basically cross-examine, like, she's a criminal who murdered seven people. You see, Melinda having to do it.
But yet, I haven't seen one thing about being, I haven't seen Bill Gates. No, not one. Well, I actually thought you would have seen Bill Gates. I haven't seen Bill Clinton very often doing it. Well, I think, I haven't seen either.
“I still, I've seen Bill Clinton on a few different social clips, but yeah, I think that”
that's an actually valid point. But I do think, of course, it's a very flipped, but we're, like, we, this is a whole other podcast for a whole other day. I know, I know.
The reality is reality TV.
Yeah. I can't tell you if Laviolin's the biggest one. But I will say that that it airs every single night. It's like five days a week that are fresh episodes. And so I think every night.
Yeah. And there's also the US and UK seasons happening simultaneously. So I feel like that just culminates into a ton of social content, which then makes it feel like it's the biggest reality show. Oh, my God.
Because that's why. Because I always see these clips that are referencing Laviolin. And I have no clue what they're talking about at any given time. So you're telling me it's on every night. Like, it's kind of like Jeopardy.
It's like the new Jeopardy, or the new Wheel of Fortune. Yeah. It's every night except for like Wednesdays. It's not on. It's very sad on Wednesdays.
And also there's one episode each week that's like a recap show. It's like an after something. Where's what network is it on? So the UK one is on Hulu and the US one is on peacock. And why they're on separate networks is beyond me.
Really? Yeah. So which was better. The production of the UK is significantly better. They, I mean, they started the show.
They get the premise better. I think the US production actually had somebody pass away on their production team this season. And I, I don't know if, what is the premise? Can you please tell me what the premise of the show is?
It's everyone on the island. Yeah. But I will say the US team, like I think that they had, they took a toll on that production team. And I think it was worse this season because of that.
Okay. And that's my theory. So the premise is you go on to your, in your, in a villa with a bunch of other hot people. And you're meant to couple up with somebody and the idea is to find like your person on this,
you know, island. Yeah. During the summer. This is like the most cookie cutter situations, the same thing on the back, but there's a lot of things.
“It's like you have to find a couple and if you're, if you're single, then you're”
vulnerable and you can only recoupled during recoupling ceremonies and sometimes, you know, if the boys pick or the new, or the new people pick, then you're kind of like shut a lot and you don't have control over the situation. So you might even be sent home, even if you're like with somebody and really connected with that, like there's so many different choices.
I thought you just said that the whole thing is that when you get there, you have the couple up. Right. But let's say, for example, there's a recoupling ceremony. And what does that mean?
That's, that's when they choose their couples. Like every few days or whatever, there's a recoupling ceremony where they get to, I, either stay in their couple or recouple, but it's not just like, you know, anybody gets to choose and it's, it's all fair.
Sometimes the guys pick, sometimes the girls pick and almost always the newest people that
they send into the villa, gets to choose first. So let's say somebody comes into the villa and they really like the guy that you've been with for the last two weeks and there's a recoupling and they get to choose first. They might choose your guy. Now you're up there waiting to see who's going to pick you and maybe nobody is going
to because you've been with this guy for a few weeks, you know what I mean? But can you say no and say, I want to stay with this girl? No, no, he has to then recouple with them. He could like quit the show and leave if his person like gets sent home, which has happened a couple times, but not frequently, because really, people are in it for the
fame more. So they want to stay. Oh, my gosh. This is actually, it's how it's kind of like survivor, but in, for dating. Ironically, they film the US season on the same island as survivor films.
So, they sometimes have reported that they can hear like survivor contestants...
of their like things can hear the lovalin people while they're filming like partying and stuff. So imagine you're starving survivor. Oh, God, that's true. And you're here a literal party happening on the villa of lovalins like, you know, across
the way.
“Can you just jump over the ocean or like, no, but how hilarious, right over?”
That is crazy. But both on Fiji. Yeah. But the thing with the show is it's changed so much over the years in terms of like the, just the quality of the actual dating aspect of it all because it becomes so much more
of a launch pad for people's careers. Season's one, two and three of the UK were something else. Season's one and two, they had absolutely no idea that they were going to have famous going into that show. Season one.
No, not famous. Is there anyone I, I know that's famous from that show? I mean, I don't know if you would know them, but it's a lot of people from that show that have mega careers. Anybody think of the UK from the first like 10, they're millionaires now.
They all make so much money. They're more a Higgins, all these people, they make so much money. In the UK, they became like these celebrities of the UK. Like, love island was the craziest launch pad for people and so became like a lot more about the cloud.
But actually, there's a few couples from one, two, and three that are still together, which is pretty amazing. How do you win? Is there like, is it a game? Yeah.
So technically you can win, but it's only a hundred thousand dollars. But what's the game? And they make so much more after that in brand deals. It's like not even funny. No, I know.
“What is like the go America votes for their favorite couple?”
But America always votes for the most annoying couples.
They're so wrong. Their opinions are always so obnoxious. I actually can't stand the audience as often. I find that they're so, they're so easily manipulated. The audience is, I can just like predict everything that they're going to think and honestly
it always sucks. Like it just always sucks. And there's so mean, I've never seen such a cruel audience three people from a lot of Ireland to date have killed themselves because of the turmoil and the insanity that comes from the fan base of the show.
Yeah, one of the hosts, Caroline Flaxie, she killed herself. These were more early days though, and this guy Mike and this woman Sophie, Sophie was on season two, I believe, and Mike was season three. Because they were, they were getting such bad. Like they were getting insane.
Holding from. Yeah. Mike's nickname to the public was Muggie Mike, which in the UK to be a mug or like to be mugged off means you were like embarrassed or you were, you know, whatever, rejected by someone publicly or whatever it is.
And that was like his nickname to the public. I mean, this guy went through it from the fan base. That's horrible. Yeah. Do they have a golden lily?
Like they have golden batch ther? No, but that would be so funny. I would love to see that. That's actually a really interesting idea. Right?
I think so because I feel like they do that for, I mean, they do that for the batch ther. But I don't know how successful it is. I don't know if that part of the franchise is doing as well as the OG one. I don't know. I watched a couple of times.
I didn't love it. I was like, this is Cuba. Whatever. Well, yeah, because you're not interested in old people. I'm just like, you know what I mean?
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I will say one last thing though that I think is important on the current season's big differentiations between UK and US that I've noticed within the actual cast for the
Season.
Yeah.
The women on the UK season have been incredible at just being like fuck you.
I'm not taking anything. From any of these guys who are going to disrespect me or be rude or whatever. They just move on. They are so blunt. They're in their faces.
They call things out. There's this one girl from Scotland, her name right now, but she's incredible. And really, they've shown such a high standard. Yeah. And respect, it's been phenomenal to watch the US season.
“I actually have been honestly saddened to see like there are literally girls in there who are”
encouraging their girlfriends in there to stay with guys who have just been absolutely atrocious to them, walking all over them, lying to their face. And it's just been so disorienting. And the one girl in there who actually did stand up for herself all the time and did walk away and did like, you know, speak up for yourself and have self-respect is the one girl
who all the fans seem to hate.
For no reason and who all of the girls in their villa were giving her Kenzie, I love her.
I mean, I just find that the fan base itself really needs to like take a look at itself before it engages online because some of these things that they put are crazy. A few of the US people came back and deactivated their Instagrams right away because they were getting too much hate. Really.
Yeah. Crazy. So why do you think this show is like such a phenomenon more than like, I know you're saying, I, so you, what I'm kind of hearing from you is it's because it's on five days a week. Yeah.
So the volume of shows is also you have UK and the US seasons are on together, okay. But besides those logistics, is there anything else about the show that you think kind of mimics or like kind of mirrors or something that's going on on our zi guys that makes people, because I think in the real world, no one's really dating. So it's fine everyone's on this on this island dating, but in real life nobody's going
out with each other. Well, I think I, yes, I, I, there is things that are happening in the zi guys that happen in the show.
“And so I do think that's why it resonates a lot.”
But no one's dating, but they're still trying like people are out here wanting love.
Everybody wants love. And so they're watching a lot of the things that happen in the real world happen on my violin. It's kind of like a microcosm for the shitty dating world of today. Yes, I totally agree.
And you see it. And but you also see the way that, you know, it's like this girl Melanie, right? She's on the US season and she's been so battered by this guy. And you can just see the light completely dissipate from her face from episode 1 to the end. And I think a lot of people can relate to that feeling.
And so, you know, while we can all kind of get on her case about staying with him or doing this, so many people find themselves in a lot of these stories. And yeah, it's, it pulls you in. It really does. Well, I think it's an emotional, it's a, it's a, it's what you call it.
Everything like that, like that pulls on your heart screen or curiosity, what's been happened. But I just find again, that that's the one show I hear all about. The other one I hear a lot about is love on the spectrum. Have you ever had this one?
Yeah. This one is so popular. So great. People love it. Because it's still honest and earnest.
Yeah. Have you seen that one? Yeah. I've watched a few episodes. I love how blunt they are.
Well, that's the thing. People love it because it's like real. Because most of everything else you're watching is so contrived, so performative. And that's one show that you probably cannot be performative or contrived because they are who they are, right?
So people love it, though, people find it to be super endearing. It's like the, I probably the number one show on Netflix. It's great. It's fun to watch people just speak their truth without any regard for anything else. Like they're just on it.
I, those sit down and they'll be like, I don't like you. I love it. I just, I was like me actually, and they're like, I don't like you, too. I'm not having fun. Let's leave.
You know, like they're just so, I mean, tell it I would love it. Sounds like you, too. It's great. Tell you.
“Really, like, maybe that's why I like resonate with it.”
That's the one show. I'm like, oh, I would maybe watch that episode. Okay. So what else is there to say about Love Island? Is there any kind of, or anything about the reality world, like reality TV?
You know, well, you know, I used to have a podcast about reality TV for so- No, I had no idea, actually. So Saniac podcast was about MTV's The Challenge and we would cover other reality shows. But I will just say, like, this goes across the board for all reality TV. The audience needs to just take a beat.
Like they need to take the biggest beat possible because they have to understand how much production goes into making an entertaining. You're filming people 24 hours a day and you're giving us the juiciest juice and you're trying to edit it. Or a story line that is going to fire us up as an audience.
The audience just eats it up and they feed into all of the crazy things. So like death threats and hate and this side and the other, you know, it's just par for the chorus for a lot of these people who go on these shows and it's kind of sad to see.
I will just end off on that.
Like I think that is one of the most important takeaways that the viewers need to just
come home with. You're like on threads out there. I'm always on threads. But all these people, honestly, for registrarians who hate as the interest or the time, you'd be surprised to even like comment on this shit.
I mean, they get that mean. I don't get.
They start attacking them when they need to get a life.
I mean, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm just, again, you could say whatever you want and you can say that, you know, whatever you people, everyone prioritizes different things.
“But if this is your priority to watch reality TV, you need to take a hard look at yourself.”
And then if you're someone also who feels the need to comment, like comment and bully somebody, that's even more pathetic. I just think all of this is like, look, like, work on yourself.
I don't even know how people, like I said, I'm going to start the podcast the way I started
the podcast, which is I don't know where people find the time. I honestly do not, maybe because I'm too busy working out in the gym five hours a day. I'm joking. I do not. So no, don't come after me.
“What I'm saying is like, this is, this is like the demise of, I think, are, are society”
and culture, is that we, it's, uh, comparison all day, it's feeling, it's feeling less than it's looking at other people living their lives as opposed to living our own life. And so to me, this is just another example of how we get to invested in other people and not enough, not invested enough on what we're doing and how we're doing it. So with that being said, maybe next time you want to watch Love Island, maybe listen to
a habits and hustle podcast. Thank you, Shawnee. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to, um, end it there unless you have anything else you want to add. No, I think that was good.
“I think just, you know, you can watch a show, but just do so with grace.”
Be kind. That wasn't my point. But, okay. Thank you. And goodbye everyone.
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