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What's your first stop picking up a camera?

Man, first time. I'm worried about murder. Hold up. You're not going to ask all the questions, brother. We're not going to do this. He always try to take over the whole man. You're going to get your answers, questions, but we're going to do that. You're going to ask the next. All right. What's the first time you picked up a camera? Man, I had a shit was one of the camp quarters and a little tape, a little tape going to pop in there. And I was just around the way. And, you know, I grew up in law to read Peter Gones, all these dudes from my, my black self, you know that. And I started fucking around shooting law to read and shit like that around the way. And then that led to me shooting fat Joe, because he was just right down the block.

That was crazy. I was crazy. I told them, you know, me. We were touching that. I mean, Joe had said something in this book, but I could elaborate a little bit more how that whole thing. Oh, I got to get it. Shout to Joe. Man, I got to get your book. Yeah, fat Joe's book. It's fat Joe, fat Joe mentioned in the book. Okay, but yeah, I could touch on it.

“I know I know from just the music side when y'all was going through the shit, right? And I had met fifth by accident, right?”

It wasn't by accident, but I had a little project. And he saw he wanted to meet me. So then I started working with fifth. And then I told, I think he kind of knew too. I was like, with down whatever's going on all that, you know what I mean. But we never really touched on it. And then I seen how my relationship with fifth blossomed, you know what I mean? Like, I felt like, we cool with each other. It was, it was a creative thing, you know what I mean? And we got to the point where I was just like, yo, man, you remind me so much of fat Joe. Like, I got both, you know, funny niggas, you know, harsh street niggas, you know what I'm saying? Like all of that.

And I was like, if you got really to meet Joe, yeah, I would like each other. You know what I mean? Because you got the same, bro. And I was shooting a video one day at late. Well, you said that though. Like, you know, fifth, fifth, fifth, fifth, fifth, fifth, fifth time to do something. He don't say nothing. He just looked at you. And he, he's, he's, he's processed that whole thing. You know, you know, yeah, he just looked at you. Yeah, I might raise up and he just, mm-hmm.

You know what I'm saying? Okay. I'm gonna walk away. So, but I kept being over the head with it, you know what I mean? Respectfully, you know what I mean? Sometimes things don't want it. Yeah, we visit shit. So, I was in that late, man. And I was about to shoot a video. It was Fat Joe, West Khalifa, and Tiana Taylor. I've got the name of the record. But fifth hit me. Because by that time being fifth already been rocking.

We've been doing a week by, I don't know, man. We've done me feel got probably like 50 videos in my life. Let's name the 50 videos. Oh, man. I can't. I'm trying to remember. I'm a, I'm a touch. So, with the 50 videos. But when I met fifth, like he saw how to eye, right? So, we was just, it was just me and him running around with a camera. Like, it was crazy. Like, we out in the blitzers. You don't feel good.

Yeah, I remember all that. I mean, I remember one of the videos like that, it was a blitzers. Yeah, like we in the snow storm, it just me and him, everything. We crazy.

“So, but we rocked out. And I taught myself how to edit and do all that shit, right?”

And, um, you know, then I think the first break I got.

And when I say break, I mean, actually doing something for a label. Yeah. Because by then, I was just doing shit with fifth. And then the first time I seen, like, I don't want to say real money. Like, when I felt the money on the fifth side. What you mean, you got real money. You said that. It's real money. It's real money. So, so you're saying when you got fifth, you got what fifth was real money.

So, yes. So when I got, I mean, it was running around where he was paying me for bills, stuff like that. But yeah. But I knew it was different when he did a mix tape for one of the websites. I'm not going to mention, but he did a mix tape. And then he told somebody in your office, I think he told Renee whatever you give, if or the money for the mix tape. And let him keep that video.

I never knew that one. Yeah, yeah. So, so it was like 35, 40,000.

And I was like, oh, shit. Like, that's when I said this shit is real. Yeah. I was like, oh, shit. Like, I went home and shit, like, oh, got you. Don't want to chew it. My wife was like, oh, we are. We made this shit. We made it. Yeah. So, you know, we just kept rocking.

And then the next time was, remember, fifth did that record with Alicia Keys, Drey. Oh, what was that song?

“But how do you keep the balance? How do you be friends with 50 cent infagio?”

The whole album. You know how the game is. You can't. Yes, sir. Now, you know, I think my relationship with fifth man and the way fifth operates, you know, it's all about loyalty and everything else, right? It's got to be honest and loyal and respectful in order.

So, I would tell him when I'm about to work with somebody. I'm like, yo, someone so hit me up to work. And I'm talking about like, people he don't even. Like, got you. Got you. You know what I mean? Like, you just see, just they don't.

Yeah, yeah, he's like, no, he never blocked my mind.

He was like, yo, go get your money. Right. So, you see, he saw it differently. Like, I'm seeing it like, you know, like, I'm just hungry to work.

So, I'm like, yo, I got a song so hit me.

He's like, go get your money and I'll stop you. But he'll tell you the reason why he didn't stop me was, it was one was the money, but also because he wanted me to gain just more experience. But working with different people.

Right. He was like, go get the experience. I'm not going to stop you. Go work with this person. That person.

And then, you know what I mean? And then you come back. You know what's time to come back. And so, that's how we rocked it. So, with Joe, you know, he knew I'd grow up with Joe,

but I remember he called me. He was coming back to New York. So, he was hand to the airport. So, you know what I said that to you, though? Yeah.

Because I remember one fifth was rockin' with Jesse Tereiro and them. Yeah. And they did. We'll shout out, Jesse. Yeah.

Yeah.

“They did something with somebody that was a cup, you know?”

Yeah. I never seen him again. Yeah. I mean, you know. It's a way to go about this.

It's a way to go about this. I mean, I think the day is like, yeah, like, and even with Joe, like, when I started working with fifth. Right. How did Joe look at you?

And he was, he, like, my thing is, like, where we all come from, shit, like that, right? Like, like, like, I ain't a sucking nigga, like, I ain't no punk, right? So, like, with Joe, like, 'cause industry niggas

will act like they're not mad, but they'd be mad, right? You know what I'm saying? Right.

So, with Joe, I was like, yo, at first he kind of, like,

laughed, but he wasn't mad. He was like, I, go ahead, right? Let's see what that is. 'Cause I think a part of him wanted to squash that beef. But he's being grown man, right?

'Cause he got squashed. So the Chris Lady event. So, right. So, so, when I was talking about all that, and then Chris Lady had passed,

and I think that made it even stronger. You know what I mean? And then it was like a week before the BT Awards. That was the other thing I was doing out there at a video with Joe.

Fifth hit me is going to airport. So I said, um, I see you're on with Joe. So he's at where you are. That was a crazy night, too. Yeah, he's like, yo, let's do it.

That was a crazy night. Yeah, he was like, let's do it. Oh, yeah, the BT Awards. Yeah. Yeah, that was it.

But this is, we feel like Joe, they feel like break us out of there. Yeah, yeah. So I go a lot. That's when the murder of Rick Ross and jeezy. Well, that's when it was like, yeah.

It was like a lot of stuff. Nah, that's it. So I go to my, I was staying by the airport. So you said you was with Joe and Fifth called you. So, the fifth day of the middle half,

and I'm not going to jump on the flight. So I went back to my hotel. I told Joe pull up. I said, leave everybody outside. Everybody outside, too.

And they came in. And then I said, yo, yo, I need to start. I want to check the tenders and all kinds of shit for the room. I was like, that's the shit right now. I was like, come on, you're both my brothers.

I mean, like, like, come on, like, stop. And, um, and he shook hands. And then, like, five minutes later, they joking. Talk about shit, joking or that. But the lovely thing, no, yeah, like, we just kept on the low.

You know what I mean? Then the BT watts. That was big. That was big. But I remember home.

That was some funny shit, because people probably still throw a fit in. Joe had beef at that time. But he was still right. They still. Yeah, so yeah, that time because I was there.

Yeah, they did. Yeah. But it was all good. You know. That was when the gun place situation happened.

Matter of fact, let me back up the beach. He should happen first.

And then we had the meeting in the second time.

Oh, okay. That's what it was.

“I remember. So Joe was funny, funny shit, because I know, like, pistol peat in order”

with at the BT watts. Right. And then Joe will call me Joe be like, yo, p, tell me like, we got a honey net is in. I have a 50 pull up like a honey net is right. Yeah, it was on the field.

It was on the field. Just as it got me out of everybody. So. I have to do it. I don't know.

Yeah. I told Joe I was like, yo, man, you're good. I got spoke to fit you good. And he's driving up from Florida, right? Man, you whatever.

10 minutes later, he called me again and he's like, yo, peaches in me. He said, fifth. Let all the terrorists go on. Because then because they couldn't get in.

And I was like, I'm. Yeah, yeah, good. Yeah. You know, think of it. Yeah.

You know, because it could. It could have got ugly any day. So it was 50 that before him and Joe actually. Okay. That's okay.

So it's on the job. I'm like, yo, if that's happening, you're good. Like, trust me. It's not going to go back on this word. So he get there.

They perform. But I think when he got one stage. Fifth bang on the leg. He had joined the leg. He said, yo, we good.

A check. I don't know how to do it. Yo, Joe. Yo, let me tell you something. That was a serious beef.

“You remember one time leaving the diamond district?”

I ran in the peak, right? He said I ran. But I didn't. But I didn't. That's what my dad told me.

Yeah. So I was in peak. That's what I mean. We can tell the truth now. Yeah.

So I'm going to mean how Lou. And I'm with somebody else, right?

He going in. But I ain't going for it. He had two short Spanish legs with him. That looks super grimy. Like they looked like they was with the shit.

You know, they had some because they wasn't like, no. They was like, short. Nick is full foot. But they make us look like, you know. Yeah.

So I started doing that shit. I'll be talking around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We're. What about what about power, man? Like, how do you go?

“How do you feel like going from TV to going to power?”

Name somebody's show? I would show. So I mean, it was. You made basic videos from going all the way to TV. Video doing all the TV stuff.

Yeah. You know, it was crazy, man. Like Hollywood. Like music video directors got a bad rap when it comes to Hollywood. Like crazy bad.

Like, you know, you got music directors that went and did movies that just bomb. Talk about who should bomb. Not like, you know, like, pretty cool. Yeah, we're doing that. But you know, they, they go from music videos and they make these films and they bomb.

Yeah. Like they do bad. I'm talking like, to catch who had $10 million. Catch who got up to $80, $90 million back then. Yeah, right?

They do how you did it. If not, so I came in late, right? And when I'm saying I came in late, I'm much older. Because you had the many bones. You had a couple of dudes.

Yeah, all these cats. Yeah, that's right. It's right. Because we could say belly was a classic though. Well, he went.

It's a classic.

But he never did another one after that though.

That was just belly was a classic. And it was shot in Queens. But the way Hollywood looks at things. And we spent this amount of money. We want to see the return.

And what do you want to see profit? How much you think they spent on that? I don't know. I don't know. But just give me a figure.

What you would think? It wasn't that easy. I mean, that's back in shit. Because you could have to make a classic. Back then.

But it was getting robbed or so. Yeah, I don't even know. I honestly can't even speak on that. But that's the thing. It's a business.

Right. So when you get a cat like me. It's a business. So when you get a cat like me to come in and all they see is a Katrina, you know, 50 cent videos.

And then I got videos. I mean, like, what really started making Hollywood, especially like the agencies calling me up, was when I got to a level with videos a lot. Crispy and clean.

That started coming. Right. Little stories into the video without dialogue. I started adding a little narrative pieces. So I think like I got signed to.

By agents, once the party be joined dropped out, I like it like that.

But shit got like 1.6 billion views right now.

Right. And so because that was like clean story, whatever. But by then, I'm already like learning how to. How to play with shit. Right.

I mean, and so. But you know, the challenges you go there. You meet these people in Hollywood. And they awesome. They they'll bring it up.

They're like, well, you come from music videos. And we have this person, that person, this person. And this person, you know, do a movie. And the fly. So what makes you different.

Right.

“Like how are you going to be different and make us money?”

Mm-hmm. So what I try to do is I try to not mention those names. And I go for names like. There was this cat who used to do a lot of low-kin videos. That you would think is hype.

It wasn't hype. It was this cat named Francis Lawrence. Oh, okay. Francis Lawrence went off. His first movie out the gate was constantly.

They didn't even imagine. Look at that. Then he did the mockingbird. The mockingjames films. Whatever that was.

So you're like, I want to be that cat. Like I saw you in the example. Some of you did. Right. So you have to not with the hype name.

Right. And then you also got David Fincher. Like a monster that direct the right monster. But David used to do videos. What videos used to do.

But that's a bunch of cat. Like he used to do music videos. That's crazy.

Cause I always thought it was just.

Just to wear whatever it's. You know, Benny Boone. Yeah, hi. You got. I don't even know.

I just took a little to get shot. Little wax to a little wax to a little wax to. Yeah, but you know, it was a little wax to the movie too. No. Yeah, he did.

Cause he did one of the things fly over. I didn't mean to do. I want to do had the perm. Right. And he did.

“I think now he's doing a lot of TV stuff too.”

So shout out to him. But doing that because it ain't easy. You know, I'm saying. So. But you know, that's the thing.

So we're power with fifth. Like for two years. Lions gay and stars. They just saw me as the dude next to fifth all the time. Like they couldn't figure it out.

Right. And they would call me in for meetings. And I sit in the meeting and they just be looking at me. I'd be looking at them. Wow.

Like so what do you do?

Cause fifth you should have me coming to.

They said meetings with exact and the actors. And people like come on. I'm like, nah, I don't. I shouldn't be in there. Right.

Right. Right.

“I was like, that ain't like, you know what I'm thinking?”

Like, I'm not even. I fifth watching that soaking up the game. So he was there. So fifth was like, listen, you see anybody bringing anybody else in here? He was like, no, he was like, I'm the boss.

You come through. Cause I want them to see when they see you. They see me when they don't see me around. They still see me through you. That's crazy.

So he was like, I want you to get that power. Right. It's even to the point where he had me dealing with the CEO of stars. Like, I'd be like, you know, you're going to go chill with them and go get your shit. They're going to give you money, go get it.

But it took a while to get there.

Because like, you know, like I said, they don't like the first one was was goes right. Power goes. And it was man. It was like really trying to fuck me. You know what I mean?

When I came on set, like the crew said to me. And they told me private the next day. But the first day I was dead, it was all acting funny style. And then, like the crew, the actors, you mean? Some of the producers.

The crew. Like, you know, the camera crew. So the word was, one day I needed, I was getting driven home. And somebody needed a ride who lived next to me. So I was like, yeah, come on.

Like, you got up in the van with me. And you start telling me, like, yo, you know, this is how they, how they pitch you to us. So he was like, there was like 50 camera man's going to shoot the next episode. Oh, right. What the fuck?

So it was like 50 camera guy. Like, like, I was just, you know what the fuck? His production was camera guy.

You never did anything else.

So then when they saw, like, I knew everything. Because what I was doing was, when they were shooting power, I would go to set and watch out and do it. Then I started taking acting classes. I couldn't understand actors because I was like,

this is a bugged out. So I started doing that. And I started acting classes. Yeah, yeah. Like a couple of days. Like, like, crazy. Okay, all right.

I was just, I thought something was okay. Yeah, so then, but that helped me when I was ready, then I went in. And they, so the crew saw that was like, yo, they portrayed you to be this and you knocked that. Like, you really know your shit.

Because they felt you didn't have the resume yet. Now you have the resume. Every time. Every time.

“But that just go to show you, like, how do you look at hip-hop?”

Yeah, you're talking. Keep, keep hustling, keep grinding. So, you know what I mean? I did that. And then after that was for life, right?

You're for life. And even that ABC ABC is owned by this guy. I was there. Right there. Man, no, no, no, no, no.

You're a good move, man. Check it. Check it. So ABC and Disney was like, hell, no. It was like, what, what he, what he done.

He was like, whatever sort of goals. And it wasn't even out yet. It was like, we got nothing like this. Because that's not mine. That's process.

Yeah. So who is that? Who is he? So, um, they was like, no, they kept pushing back. The producers are like, nah, let them do it.

We believe in them. And then fifth made a call. Two, like, yo, y'all telling us, it's a number one show. If, if, if, if y'all letting us do our thing, let us do our thing. We telling you this dude is writing, like, he already did one.

He knew what he doing. I go off. I do that. And it's the only episode that got put in at the end of the season for an Emmy and best. I reckon.

It's the best episode. Right. And from that point on, like, every time I do something, it gets put in for Emmys. You know what I mean?

Like, in the actors' entirety, but like, nah, this dude. You know how to talk to actors, and he know how to work the camera. Like, how to joke the crew. People want to know, like, to, you know, a lot of people when they heard want to be actors now, because it's like, everybody run up to me.

Everybody has scripts. They want to know. Like, what it takes to be a good actor, not just acting. But how do you portray yourself on set? Like, being on time and stuff like that, not smoking on a set.

“Like, like, being drunk or it's, it's a whole regimen, right?”

Like, it's crazy, because I show up. Like, how does your day start? Well, I'm going to tell you, like, I will come to set. And fifth will be that performing. Hmm.

Like, fifth's a different type of animal. Like, I don't. Bro, we don't start to seven. Fifth's there. Five.

Five in the morning. Yeah. Like, right. Yeah. We got to show.

We there four, five hours before the show started. So you look at that. And you go, man. I got to be. If you want it, you got to really, really, really.

really, really, really, really. Right. So, so, some point is in talking to like the younger cats that want to come in and want to act in order like, just keep doing it man, take acting classes, you know what I mean, sharpen the skills that if you ain't got money, just keep acting and do with family and friends, acted out. Like, you have a student video, say the blue African kids, what they be, I've been going to show you. And then they start dancing, they get busy. So, so if you start acting and just doing scenes,

do small scenes. You know what I'm saying? Like, somebody just gave me something the other day,

do the deal. I went to the same thing, and sent that something a little related to New York with some,

like, you got it, got it was going on kind of five right now. Yeah, it's an YN. What if, yes, the YNG, yes, you sent that something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's some sort of stuff that's really dope, yeah. But it's cats that took it upon themselves, right? They tried that. They put their own shot together themselves, right? Not crazy to put them red. And they didn't, man. So it's like, and there's so many outlets, right? So like, if you, if you really want to do it,

man, put your shot on YouTube, put it on Vimeo, whatever, all these little site, like, for example, Vimeo, even YouTube, you get subscriber base, right? Just put it out there, but like, yo, just subscribe is 99 cents or whatever. Now you make a money off of it too, right? Or you

could do the other way with, like, if people believe in you, you do the, whatever that thing is,

or like, a crowd crowd crowd, crowd participation. Yeah, like, right, so you, you can put up money. Yeah, you gotta tell these why, and if you come on set, don't drink, don't smoke. Just because you're playing against, right? Right. Don't mean you gotta be against on set. I don't see actors who play against this, but then when they turn off the cameras, they super nerds. Look at that.

“They're like, they're regular. So, yeah. And I think you get due to our nerds that become actors”

and all of a sudden now, they think they that. Yeah, because you, because you got to understand when you outside, they, you know, they're going to fuck, we're going to see you as that. Give us, give us one of the wildest moments you've seen, like, behind our scenes. What on earth, from video? Video or more, because I've met my video, someone told me, show me a future. Use that shit about the, oh, you use it about the Poppy Soup on

these, why, yeah. Yeah, I forgot, you know, he was talking about, they didn't know who they was, and I guess they wasn't really familiar with who he was, but it was about to get left, yeah, they got mad. Yeah, we're still dancing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was popular. I don't know, you know, sometimes you see that's the thing, sometimes you, you kind of, you black out because

all you see, like you get tunnel vision, right? And you just did a work. So like the first time

I did power, I came on a block, we was outside. Yo, when I told you, I was in the van driving down. I seen block after block with all the trucks, like all the equipment. And I got to set

“up, and it's like 200 people looking at you in the acting, staring at you, right? What we doing?”

The producer, the producer, what we doing? Yo, I saw the guy that first moment, I shit myself. I was like, oh, this is crazy. So you was nervous. Super nervous. Right? Yeah. And then what I think I had seen was inside the car, so I was like, yo, guys, it's getting the car, but I was really sheltering myself. And then I spoke to them just to get out of my system and then once I did that, then it was a go after that. It was, you know,

but I think that's a real story right there. Yeah, no, it's great. You know, man, we talked about the movie. I said, another story that would put, but you know, for the young cats, man, you know, and while this shit is like, the shit that suck is when you get the opportunity, and you fuck it up, you fuck it up. Yeah, you drop the best, the biggest thing, right? Because us as as black and brown people, we don't get a lot of opportunity. Of course. You know,

I mean, and you guys, especially Hollywood, just Hollywood, you guys are like, fifth, you know, I mean, like, like, I've gotten those things with, I tell you, do you sure you don't want to do these type of shows? And I'm like, I'm cool over here, because I'm building one of my people. Of course. So I don't need to go do those other shows that, like, just for the awards. I don't, I'm good. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, but again, it's like, if you get that

opportunity, man, don't fuck it up by taking a money, and you won't be sleeping with a thousand strippers and get high. Right. And whatever coming to set drunk and smoking and all that, like, you just come on, man, nobody want that. You get it work. I mean, do you 10 hours or whatever, nine hours work? Do you think, go do that shit afterwards? Right. I mean, but you got to be on point, man. Like, it's shit. It's so hard. No, I wonder how you think directing change from, like,

2005 to 2025, like, now. How do you think it changed? When you say change, like, better shit. Nick, what are you talking about? No, no, Nick, what are you saying? Like, like, like, like, what we

“see now versus, like, I mean, I think, I think it's changing because there's, there's more of us”

getting involved. Right. And when I say us, you know, again, black and brown people. Right. You know, we really taken a series of really trying to learn the craft, Ryan Cooler and all the

what's my man in this sentence? They like, Ryan Cooler. Yeah, what else he did? Because they said he did a great, he did a great, he did a great, he did a great, he did a great, he did a great one, too. That's true. That's true. For your station was as first joint. He worked for Michael B. Joe in the lot. I guess they had nothing to do. Yeah. I see Ryan, I see him crying when Cassina's did real good. Yeah. First week, there were a lot of millions. And yeah, I see him, he was like tearing up,

like, oh, it's not because, because what it is, I mean, the deal he worked on with that movie, where, because, he didn't black pan to create an audience. So he made, he made the billions. Now he's doing a sentence. He owns it after 25 years. His deal, he owns the movie. So now that's like this, that's for his kids. Look at that. So he owns all of the movies. Huh? He owns black, black, he owns sinners after the movie. No, he owns black pan because you know,

he was just confused. So now he's like, it's like a record deal. So now he owns it after 25 years. And then his deal, I think he get like, for his dollar, once they make that gross, whatever the budget was, boom, he's the first dollar. That's true. So we changed normal. You know what I mean? So, so, but that's what I'm saying. You do shit like that. That's power. Right. So now you start like, okay, how do I, that helps me? Right. I'll have the next guy. So you, you feel like that, that's what drives your

creativity, because that's why I was going as much as I thought. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What drives your

“creativity? No, I think listen, I think for me, the creativity is that I went to art school, right?”

I went to art design and I could say that I was always a graffiti in shit like that comic books in

and so I could draw, like a draw, like a mother fucker, like I could, you know, I did the air pun logo for pun back and I did a bunch of logos for pun back and I did the snowman for jeezing, like back and I was doing the same thing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

- Like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did a bunch of other ones, like, if you, jizzy mentioned it in this book, hmm, when I made this no man, Joe makes it like, yeah, like, that's what I was doing back then, I'm covered as logos to capture. That's crazy. - That's crazy. - Okay, look at that. - So I was always into that. - So you made this no man. Yeah, with jizzy and it's China. - It's just sad as a jizzy. - No, it's just a shit. - No, it's just China, damn. - You made this happen. - Yeah, yeah. - You made this happen. Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

- Shout to Jayson. - Shout to Jayson. - Yeah, yeah. - Shout to Jayson. - Shout to Jayson.

- Not you. - Yeah, but the creativity, man. I think it just comes from like just being out seeing everything living life. - What's talking about that?

You got something that you working on and that they castro. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just finished that. We about to go.

- Oh, it's finished. - It's about 98% done. It's just a lot of the V-effects and shit. - You know, don't you tell like, I assume to do it, I've seen a post on the ground.

- Yeah, yeah. - You know that? - Right, all right. - So, look at yourself. - Don't take that.

- Every detail. - Why do you wanna bring that on? - Don't have any, no, because I was talking to them every day.

And I'm like, I could never be mad at that, Calib,

because his loyalty was to Joe and my loyalty was to fit you at the same time, you know what I'm saying? So, even if we still don't have to sit down and talk. - Right now, even if we don't talk, because you know, it's cool is Joe,

everything is cool is peace. Nobody got hurt, no bullets fly, nothing happened. So, that's the best part of it. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying?

It's just a whole war story, you know.

“- If I think you need to make that happen.”

- No, Calib, that's the main character. - Calib, yeah, you know, we got mad at that. - Calib is my brother, man, like, you know what? - So, he did play a part with the Castro? - So, I started this movie, right?

Before I got it, it was the Romulus Entertainment. Before I got, it was another director attached. Was it the right person, right? Like it was just, it wasn't working out. So, I came in and I cast, you know, like,

the movie, like within two weeks, like we already had all the actors, you know what I mean? - Right. - And one of them being Al Pacino. - Right.

- So, well, that everybody could get Al Pacino

for the right kind of, not the first time.

- Yeah, it didn't go just for the right kind of. - So, anyway, I think it was called Sanchez, everybody said it took him years. Him and Al years to find it, do something together. And I was like, damn, I did it with the first time.

- And it was just, I was like, yeah, it's just the time. - It was crazy, you know what I mean? But yeah, so, like, we wrote this part, you know, the writer Tommy in a couple of the cats, and, you know, we kind of tweaked it.

So, to be out, like, how I would do it.

“And so, we sent it to the agents, and he was interested, right?”

So, he was like, yo, this is the first time I'm saying it, like, yeah, I appreciate that. - But yo, so, he read it, and he wanted to meet with me, right? So, like a half hour, you know, the meeting we see what he's about.

So, Nick, I'm sharing for like a week straight nervous.

- Yeah, I'm like, I'm glad when you say you nervous, 'cause it's like, you know, that's the humble and part about it.

It's like, like I've said you were scared on your first shoot.

Man, people outside, this is way different than a fucking video. You know what I'm saying? - Yeah, and I was, it was, I mean, you know, the fun thing is when you meet these different artists, even back then, like, the fifth, you know, I was nervous.

“You know what I mean, like, the big dogs, you know what I mean?”

But with him, you know, me, that, this is life changing. So, I went to the restaurant where he wanted to meet. And I get there like a half hour early, 'cause I'm like, let me just chill out. I drink like, you know, 40 cups of coffee by now.

I was, I should have, and I go sit down and I put my bag down. Look, first I go in and I'm like, that who you had, like, reservations. I was like, Alfred Petino, like literally under his name. So I go in the back and I put my bag down and shit.

And the horse and I had. - Yeah, he is. And I turn around and he's fucking out. I'm behind me. - Oh, shit.

- He's right there and he's coming in. I'm like, oh, shit. Like, nice. There come on, bro. You know, we'd be starships. - Yeah, and like, I was like, yo, but you know,

you gotta be cool. So, yeah. So we sat down and I remember my sex in the producer under the table like, well, you act, 'cause he's not in the back of it. I was like, I'm here, don't know what this cat, what you act.

He's trying to get there.

“But what we talking and, you know, was crazy,”

'cause he started naming all the directors he ever worked with. But he was stoned in my face. He was like, yo, see you heard of Mars, go say, see, you heard of, you know,

like, man, they just kept names dropped. - Yeah, I mean, he's big. - He was like, of course I heard of him. - Yeah. - And I'm like, yeah.

But I know what he was doing. And so he started telling me stories. But he started off a circle. So he's like, you know, when I did a circle, you know, back then, you know, he was saucy,

whatever he was doing. And he said, you know, he woke up and he had a joint next to him. And he was like, I know I do know 'cause she was still dressed or whatever, right?

And he had to go to premier. He's like, yo, so it was crazy. I got to go to his premier and I'm like, I'm still saucy. And while he's telling me, yeah, I'm saucy this night.

And then, so soon 49, when I'm walking down the hallway, did you explain that to me? I said, oh shit, he's doing the vet actor shit. Like, I could do that. Like, they'd be mad, cool with you, joking on that.

And they're like, oh, it's crazy.

No, first of the nation to me.

Like, first of all, we'd be talking about night before, like what we doing, the next morning, he just said, yo, what we doing? Why the fuck we doing that? Like, and I'd be like, yo, my man,

I was going on here. All right, right. But it's a different, you know, we're working now. - Definitely. - Right.

- And so what happened? - Not your man, no more shit. - It wasn't my man, I'm not doing it anymore. - So he went into, like, the scene, I was like, oh shit. But I knew the script inside, I was like, yeah,

this will happen. But we won. Then he started talking about scarf face. Yo, you know, when I did scarf face, you know, they killed me for that.

Like, they, the critics, I had people calling me. - That's why I found me. - I watched that, listen. - Over the time, let's get to that. - Look into that, so look.

He says, it almost destroyed his career. - They killed him for that. - I mean, oh, oh, his peers and things like that. - People, okay. Hollywood, there was like, what you don't want?

He leaned in and he grabbed my forearm. Right, put your forearm, like this to me, grab my arm.

He said, now the first time you're here in the first time

saying it publicly, yeah. He said, you know who saved my life? I said, oh, the rappers, the rappers saved my life. - Wow. - Wow.

- Wow. - Rock, rock, rock, rock. - Yo, now look down on my dear legs. - Wow, look at that. - So I think a piece of that, I was like,

he had to see my work. He knew I'd come from video, since I could only imagine his people with agency, whatever. You don't want to Academy Award one of them. Yo, don't, don't, don't, don't post.

- Like, so this come out. - Like, who, like, who, you know,

“I don't think you need to be working with him out,”

but because of his experiences. - That's what I had. - I think he said, no, no, no, no, I got to get back. - I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna give him a shot. I'm gonna give him a shot.

- And, bro, he said that and I was like, oh shit, right. And, but we did, and then we just kept talking about the movie and shit like that. I always had a vision. I was telling the producer, Brad, I was like, yo,

when Al come on set, we got a scene outside. It's going to be doing doing it some a time. - Right. - It's going to be hot. So, for whatever reason, like, 'cause I'm sort of spiritual,

for whatever reason, I say, Joe,

when he's in the projects on a Beastchair.

I saw something in two of those chairs. And I'm gonna sit down without an E ice cream. I don't know why I was thinking about that. - Right. - Ice cream.

- It was like, yo, you crazy. Like, what the fuck is wrong with it? - Right. - Yo, the story's sitting down. At the restaurant, after we talked about work,

he said, you hungry? It's getting fried. Man, also, he's ordered a man food that we eating. I ain't even realized, you know how when you got to catch up with whatever,

they bring you to play the ice cream, and everybody just took this food. Bro, that's what we was doing. So, the end, we eating ice cream. I didn't realize.

- You said my vision came to life. - Yo, I know, you know, the producer, we go outside, we walk out to his car. And he's at congratulations, you had your ice cream with Al. - Yeah, okay.

“- Yeah, that's what you got, Al, but you know,”

the rocker dinner, bro, bro. Them two right there, it was just classic shit. - Everybody's got a face. - I agree. - Bro, lead those way.

He, the list goes on and on. So, just to be sitting there with Al, but she know, bro. - Yo, that's come on. - But now, let's say, he's gonna be X. So, we hit it off crazy.

We tell him, man, he's gonna promise. - I never moved on. - He's gonna lie. - He's gonna lie. - He's from Brooklyn though.

- Yeah. - But he's very Brooklyn. - He's gonna be X, so we, we talked a lot about that. And he would say to me, like, yo, I'm doing this book. Like, you and me should just go drive

around a Bronx, like a reminisce. And I'm like yo, whenever you're ready. - Oh, shoot. - Like, we could have done that. - Like, we could have done that.

- Yeah, that's dope. - Like, yo, if I'm not shooting, can I come and said just to hang out? I was like, yeah. So, he, I had him for like 10 days or something like that.

And we were prepping off his, he's a funny dude. And he would look at him, but like, yo, you know, you know, you know, bad bunny, and I was like, yeah, man, I worked at him. He said, oh, he's dope.

What about the weekend, you know, we can't, like he's, yo, he was like in truth. - Really into that. - And then to that.

“- I think the first thing I would ask Al Pacino”

was like, how the fuck do you just act like that? Like, scoffice, what's it? - Yeah. - I called you a real nice. - Like, I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Bro, that was like classic shit. - Yo. - Like you know, I would ask him, first of all, all about scoffice, because that's my hands. - But I love her.

- I shot him out when I wrapped him out. 'Cause I think he was 82, 83, just had a baby. - He just had a baby. - I was just about to say that. - Yeah.

- He just had to shut out the opportunity. - So, guys, he still had that baby. - Yeah, he still had the baby. - He had a lot of money, right? - And he can't work every day, man.

I think people were gonna really bug out when they seized performance, like he killed it. And we had this thing, man, like, we had a language. So, like, he was doing one scene,

and we were always talking my stick ball.

So, in the BX, like, stick ball. So, every block, every neighborhood in New York has two sewers. So, when you plan to one end of the sewer, and you head it to the next block,

then you head in the third and fourth sewer. So, he'd be like, you ever hit three sewers?

“I was like, yeah, but sometimes it's ball going to roof, right?”

- That's good. - So, when we was doing the scene, I was like, I would yell across the room, and he was doing a scene like he, when he was a, gets rather than ever sitting down at the table.

And I yell, I said, I'll give me three sewers. He'd be like three sewers coming up, baby. Like, he was on point. So, the last time, the last year had him, we wrapped him out, we wrapped, I got home, like at midnight.

- Just so y'all clear, we talking about my God, Eve Ferrer was movie. - Yeah, kill the cappuccino, killing cappuccino. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I just sat on my workout bench, and I cried for two hours. - God bless you man, two hours, me.

- Bless you man. - Bless you man. - I'm gonna tell you why, thank you. I'm gonna tell you why, though, but I was saying before my Hollywood, now the meeting's a different, you understand? Now when I sit there, you can't look at me,

but when you work with, yeah, yeah, you can't do that. - You can't do that, you can't do that. - Yeah, it's a little different now. - So you sit there, and it's the confidence. Because now you go, look, y'all only got two, Robert DeNero and Al Pacino, living legend, I can't do that.

I mean, you got a few others, but now you got to do that. - This is plenty, but you know, it's still active. - We just say, I don't know, Schwarzenegger and the whole bunch of other names, right? So that's still active. Now you sit there and you go, you have to do one at me, right?

The universe, do one at me, dealt with that. He loves me, hit him up, hit up his whole team. They're gonna tell you. - Mm-hmm. - Right. - What you're gonna tell me now?

- Yeah, what?

- You're something, but it's always a challenge,

it's always something new. You know what I mean, even like for you to get the next thing that what we gotta see what you did.

It don't, it's, you know, it's hard.

- You did that, man, that's dope. - How do you win a film? - What was the tricky business, man? - What would you tell the next, the next young, direct to coming out of New York?

What were the advice that you have for them? - Learn as much as you can. It's okay to look at everybody else's work and try to copy and try to figure out how they did it. You know what I mean?

So like, you could learn how to camera work, look at the angles, look at the lighting and all that, right? But also like, just keep shooting, bro. Like keep shooting, like, and even if you wanna get it to TV is something like that, or commercials, right?

Or even music videos, like, I tell people, at the time, you're gonna get it to commercials, to a Pepsi commercial. How, I don't have no agent, I have nothing. - Yeah, how do you do that?

- You go get a Pepsi bottle, you go write a scene out and you shoot it. - Wow.

“- And it's a spec, that's what you call a spec, commercial.”

So now you shot and they're like, oh, shoot.

- You did this, it's just never aired like now,

but it's a spec. - How much is my check for that for the commercial, we think of that? - I'm just thinking now, don't you? - Don't be surprised, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- That's it. - It's great, right? Now you get picked up by an agency, whatever, and then perhaps you really want to do it, I think that the going rate for a director

to do a commercial, it's usually like 25,000 a day. - Oh, shoot. - Yeah, so like... - You ready? - I don't think that could be.

(laughing) But you don't say it, but you're just the same thing, you go shoot a short, go shoot the homies, go shoot a scene like somebody got cancer, age, whatever, shoot that and show the emotions at that.

- Right. - You know what happens? - Make it up, whatever, just write it, make it up. - Real life should, yeah. - Yeah, and then just send it out.

You know what I mean? Like, you're not just standing around with a camera ain't gonna do that. Like, wait for work. - No, that's a good idea. I don't have a new that was easy to just...

- Yeah, you do a special commercial. - 'Cause I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? - You know what I'm saying? - It's called a spec. Get your money up.

- You know what I'm saying, but for me, I started like with the camera, like I said, shooting cats, and I loved it, man. I just kept going and kept going and kept going. And I told you, you know what I mean?

I think the first, my first video,

going back to fifth was when he did the Alicia Keys and Drake joined, and he said to me, I'm gonna tell you right now, he kept the real. I'm gonna tell you right now, you ain't gonna get this. They don't know you, and the scope don't know you.

They're not gonna give you the money. But I'm gonna give you these records of my album. You're gonna do these for real, and I was like, oh shit. And that was my gateway. - Look at that.

- Through fifth, I got into interscope. And then we started doing video practice. - That's crazy, 'cause fifth, you don't like too many people, who's so? - Yeah.

- You were the one week in one week.

“So everybody started calling, I got who the fuck is Eve Ferrarra?”

And one week I dropped two videos. And when I say everybody, I mean like video commissioners and video reps. There was like who the fuck is this? I dropped two videos in one week.

It was 50 in Kendrick and Kendrick. - I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. - I think we up, I think we up, yeah, we up, yeah, we up. And then I dropped French Montana and Nicki Minaj Freaks. - Okay. - So when I dropped those two, it was just like, "Poof."

- Name some more, man, name some more. We wanna know some more videos you do. (laughs) Now you and Big U Big Time move. - I don't know, you know what the thing is, I don't follow up. I don't, I don't, I don't, like look at the head to know what that, like, you know, I didn't want, right?

It didn't, we'll couple with you. - Yeah, we did a couple of calls, right? Yeah, we did one. - Right, yeah, we did one. future. I mean, I did a f*ckie and I did an over. Yeah, yeah, with future was like when he had that mixed thing, right? The videos were if, yeah, all right? I'm just like, you know,

I'm just like, you know, you know, we did some junior video, you know, you're trying to remember you did so much, I know each other, you know, we did so many years. So, you know, I mean, I worked with, you know, that's a joke. Like I said, Kendrick. What's right? What

“video you did, him in future, we did the Mexican joint, which one? Uh, used, I think, used”

to it, something like that. One goes, yeah, yeah, one goes, five's old. And do what you did with Kendrick? The him in 50? Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, look at the lives of the bunch of her. Uh-huh. You know, I mean, I was, I became one of her, like, she was regular. Like, like, the, and how I got into land, southside. But, no, I mean, if you know, it's Queens were. But I said, because the Nikki, I got into the Latin market. Oh, okay. Well,

so that's when I met Bad Bunny. So, it was a record, creepy. Like he said, because her, why are you, why are you saying that? Because it was a Latin record, it was a Ruco, Bad Bunny, and I forgot who else. And then they put Nikki as a feature and they put Travis

got to be if. Look at that. And they brought me in and I did that. And then from there,

“then I started working with Bad Bunny. We did a couple of fire. Yeah, and a couple of”

and Jay Balvin and she like that, we started working. So damn you, plus, man, you were real person. I think, man, I appreciate that. But I think really it's more like, put the work, you know, yeah, like, to the new directors out there that want to do videos or whatever, like, bro, you can't be scared, man. But you can't be scared to talk to the artists. Like, that's the whole thing. Like, find out one artist that want to rock out with you,

right, rock out with them. But mean, for example, but I was never scared of fifth, like

to the point, but like, yo, because you know, he's like a robot. Yeah, he's intimidated. He was intimidated. He was scared to have a conversation with him. Yeah, he'd be like, explain, I think this is going like this. So something that one director, who was like, yo, I'm hungry. So I left him there. He was warming. I'm like, nigga, go to a fifth. You hungry, go get something to eat. Oh, so you see, he said, he hungry. You

too. I thought, but we, and he never can't escape. No, you never came to mind. Oh, wow. Why do you just seem to be some Mickey D's or something like, bro, he never came back.

“That's how intimidated this was. The fifth was like, yo, never bring that cat around me again.”

And that kid fucked the shit up. The middle power right now. Look at this. But that's my point. It's not, but you're bugging out. You could have just went. No, yeah, you said you got a big maximum to me. Oh, I think they were nice. Like, everybody, like, I think they was, what you doing? Because you know, I'm queen to a big. I did a couple of joints or knives. But I remember the one we did that was, I think before it's

time was French Kanye, nice to one. They jumping over a big ass jumbo. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember. So that was the fire on there, dirt breaks for you. Yeah, it was like, I'm tired of taking these videos with this regular jet sitting on the wing of a jet. Yeah, definitely. He's like, let's hit the biggest plane again. So we went to the Mojave Desert. And we went to the airplane grade yard. It was just shit. It was a

video. French. That was, I don't think that was on French. Yeah, I got a video back then of Kanye told me, it was the best time I have the hand on set. But I think it's because like I said before, man, like, you can't, you got to like be there and tell the artists like, that's the whole thing about directing. You got to be able to take charge because sometimes the artists don't know what they want. You know what I mean? Like, they don't know.

I was working with this with this artist, high profile, going to some shit right now, where he kept asking me how does it look. My first time working with him. I was like, you look good. He would run down, look at the matter, go back up to a shit, come back down. Like, it was getting annoying. So the third time you can't down, I put my hand on his shoulder. I said, yo, you good, bro. And look at my hand. Look at me. We was good after that.

Everything was like, yo, whatever you want to do. Because I know videos could shoot in the videos, when you like get to knowing some times, you know, you got people in your way, you got women in every way. Yeah, it's a lot of work. People think it's a lot of work. The thing is, like, the artists want to come be in and be out. Yeah. So you got to make sure this shit is right. Mm-hmm. Right. You don't waste no time. That's the first thing.

So say for all this, come late. How the fuck you feel? You got to already be shooting other shit. Definitely shoot the b-roll, shoot the models, shoot the cars, whatever it is, start shooting. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? So when they get hit and you move over, shoot them out, get them out and then keep shooting. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like, right.

And then now we sell for the new cast, how we say this, like, artists always want one thing.

Right. You know, I need to be on a boat for this thing. Whatever it is, you want to be sitting on a boat for me, go. It's a done shit. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. You'll get the fucker for me, go. Because you get them that and then you got them. Mm-hmm. After that, they happy. No, this one fucker. I need the flamingo. I need him for the next one. Yeah. Yeah. I need the hell of the - I want to flamingo, I want to elephant. - Yeah, that's true.

- And you have that shit there, yeah. - Yeah, yeah.

“- That's what I'm gonna fuck with. - Yeah, tell the crazy shit.”

Mary J. Blige, we know a lot of the same people, right? - Uh-huh. - Man, Angie, Joe. - Yeah, definitely.

- Mm-hmm. - And so, I never worked with her.

And I've been in parties when I know what I'd say was something I've ever really spoke. We go to Shukos, and I said to her, "Yo, it's crazy, me and you never worked on a video." - And she said, "Here we go, shoot my movie, man." - She said to me, "That's because you will make too big of things with me here." - Wow. - I was like, "Wow." - Shout to Mary J. Blige. - Yeah, that's true.

- And now since that, we don't shout like four videos, four, five videos. - Yeah, yeah, that's right. - Yeah, yeah, that's right. - But it's like, again, it's like, artists want to be in and out.

They get that they expect it, but, and they go on. And then I added on my own shit, so I already know what I need. Shaked in with TV, I know what I'm shooting, I know what I want. But that's just small, 'cause another director probably would be beefing. Like, "Why the fuck the artist ain't here?"

“- Why? - I don't work like this, and you said you should never shoot her, but--”

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- Put me on the spot, wait a minute. (laughs) - First of all, one of Murdoch University's first. - First of all, I want to talk about this one. - It's Queensborough's Brooklyn.

It's our quick fire segment, and he wanna know who's the top three rappers you considered you work with, but he worked with so many, so that's a political issue.

- Yeah, I don't want to act in him. - I wanna tell you this, I'm gonna tell you this,

I'm gonna tell you this, I never have beef with no rappers.

- Okay. - Meaning like I've never been on set to a point where it's just so out of control, you're like, man, fuck this person. I've never won with this person again. - Right.

- So I don't have none of those experiences, man.

“I think everybody was for me, fun, and then on.”

- Look, besides fifth, was that's keep fifth out of it. - The top three, the top three, favorite, the work with. - He worked with so many years. - I was gonna know, at some time you know,

there's no vibes with people. So I just wanna know that the vibes are crazy. I mean, future was one of them. - Okay. - Right, future was, you know, 'cause he come with creative shit.

- Right. - Um, man, who else? I just love work with Nicky too, and people used to be scared of death. - Oh, okay, let's go. - Yeah, you're scared of Nicky. - Yeah, so we see who we're with,

and I am fifth. - Oh, man. - We've been around a couple of times. - Yeah, so you know what I'm saying? - Everybody worked with, it's a big name. I'm gonna ask you a direct question.

Camera-wise, lens-wise, Sony versus Canon. Which one do you pick? - Man, there's so many differences though. Like, it's hard to say 'cause it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. - But what camera would you use to so you know,

so like, I use it? - They're trying to break it down. - It's just time to be a little bit nervous. - It's just a part of it. - It's just a part of it. - I built up for TV, filmed the Alexa, like the Venice.

That's what everybody's using, right? Sometimes they use the Sony and other stuff, but I feel like for me the Venice is, what's the Venice? - To Venice, what is the Venice? - Sony?

- No. - What's the Venice? - Sony, yeah, Sony, Sony, Sony. - But the lenses, it all depends on what you wanna see. So like, what I mean about it is the look. So when I did the movie, we did lens test.

So we got a whole bunch of different lenses coming in and look for the right look. - Oh, it's the texture of the film. 'Cause the every glass is different. You know, the machine is more expensive than the camera.

- No, I know, I know, I know that. - Yeah, I know that. - Like if you're gonna get it right, let me just gotta get the lenses. - You're gonna get it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- The lenses before anything. You had a dope lens package. - Well, you any camera, so you do lens test. And what's the process with that? How long does that take you?

- If you know that you, you come in home and like, for example, if I have the camera here, we're gonna swap out bunch of different lenses to see what the room looked like.

“Before, and then you know that's what you're gonna get”

and that's what you're gonna shoot the movie with. - And then I came with this good, right? - Yeah, come on, it's gonna make it. - I'll put everything on. - I'll put everything on.

- Me, Janky, I call it close. - I call it, I bet. - I know what's going on. That's what I'm gonna do. - That's what I'm gonna do. - You'll pay up that much. - So we still have to quick fire segment. - Go on. - JZ or Nas.

- Yeah, that's always a question.

- Go look on the sample. - Go look on the sample. - Go look on the sample. - You know for the balls. You can just ask it, it'd be just trudious of JZ or Nas. - You know what I put into that is also relationship. I know them both. - I'm mainly surprised.

- So what I'm gonna say? - Just as a fan. - He's from the Bronx, so this is a difficult question. He's not from Brooklyn. - It's okay, he's not from Brooklyn. - No, no, no, no. - Man, it's so hard, right? Every time I think about Nas,

I think of like Ethan, everything Nas, man, I'm gonna go with Nas. - I love J, but Queens! - Nas, Nas. I feel like Nas is like, he's like a, I mean, they both, man. But like Nas is like a secret weapon, like that dude, just sit there, V, like lock in, he's on.

“- They wasn't the vibe, you should have rocked Nas and brothers in you, right?”

- I wasn't gonna vibe. - Drop your hurts, you're all right, cool, what's up? - No, somebody said to me, somebody said to me, well, I didn't think, you know, you that type of person wanted to come out to that. And I was like, thanks, Lanias. (laughing)

- It's a long day on set, you've been working with all these actors. - Yeah. - And you know, you know, you want to line down. You're gonna do darker, like a white liquor, like, oh. - So wine, like, what do you, cigar? - Car, yeah, cut to cut. - I use, now I don't drink to after I wrap.

'Cause this will happen, is that when you done with the deal.

“- Yeah, that's what I mean, after, after.”

- Yeah, yeah, I mean, somebody's trying to put me on to the killer, 'cause I'm a vodka dude. - Okay. - You know what I mean, I drink vodka, but they try to put me scum into the killer, man. I had a bad experience with the killer, so that's why I kind of stay with you.

- No, I shit fucking me out, I mixed, I mixed them. - Yeah, you can't mix me out, I was like, vodka, and somebody's like, "No, I gotta try this" and then I was tripping, man. - I was tripping. - What did you do? - You fucked them out, man. - I had one of those dream collab.

- Dead or alive. - That you never worked with me.

Like, you're dream collab. - Meaning what music videos? - Music videos. - Yeah, so I was dead a lot. My team, my team, my team, my team. - What have it worked? - Dead or alive, or actor. - Somebody thought about working with, that you just didn't work with.

- What did you pry in somebody you were like, the work with? - You know what I think of the era, right? Like, I would love to work with somebody like Michael back then. Or like, I think of like Christopher Walken and King of the York. - Right. - Right.

- Like, he met over and now, said, like, got you. - Like, in that era, right? Or even like, then's out, like, come on, then's that. - Like, we need you. You know, we need you to name at least five of your favorite movies from all

times, because you know, I watch a lot of movies. Like, I told people that didn't even know. There was a Superman 3, Richard Prior, it wasn't that. - Right. - And I was like his breakaway movie.

- Right. - I'm saying, 'cause Superman was like the biggest thing in the 80s.

- Now, you know, I did some movies that I watched over and over, man. - Me too. - Like, um. - Like, Uncle Buck is another one for me. - You know what I watch a lot of sci-fi too. Like, I'm into sci-fi. - sci-fi.

- I'm into aliens and all that shit. - Like, me too. - Yeah, come on. - Yeah. - And you know what he's like, scorn case. - No, I'm an animal. - Yeah, for example, one of my favorite movies. - You asked him. - This choice is, man. - One of my mom.

- He says Buck and Soft. - It's all matters. - No, he says no. - That's quite for you. - Like, one of them is, for example, arrival. You might think it's boring. - What is this? - What is this? - About aliens, about aliens, about aliens.

- About aliens, about aliens, about aliens, about aliens, about aliens, about aliens. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - But you got that, you got training day, right? - Training day five. - Training day five. - I'm selling that. - So you know, I love you, you know what I'm saying?

- You know what I'm saying? - He, another one. - Of course, really good. - Yeah. - Okay, right? You know, one of them, I mean, favorite best performances is Malcolm Max Denzel was fucked up with Fox. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was a classic.

- Black, what is he? - Black, what is he? - Yeah, what else, I'm trying to think, what else. - Black, please do another one with Denzel. - No, you know, it's another movie I love. I can watch over and over and over,

because I just think about what a fashion really happened is the Brad Pitt joint, where was he? - Oh, yeah, that was a cool song. - I was just wondering.

“- That's what I was saying. - That's what I like to do.”

- Yeah, yeah. - Okay. - Can't still movie someone up front. - Yeah, again.

- There's always dope, like, you know,

I've just shook your heels and all that, like back then, right? Like, it's, I mean, I kind of wish, and it's like try to feel like. - But there's a classic, this. - Yeah, the classic, but I just kind of wish we could still do some of those, right?

New Jack City, the, you know. I mean, you got the power, you could recreate some of these things. - Yeah, but just to have it, right? Like, clockers. - Yeah, clockers was about, - Oh, come on. - New jerseys.

- Yeah, come on. - Yeah, come on. - Like, the clockers were just showing. Like, you know, just telling our stories. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could do the fantasy shit or whatever, but, of course. - I've all telling those stories,

like, 'cause that was, I guess for us, like, that was our era, you know what I mean? - I don't know. - I don't know what it's like. Do you watch the old movies like the Mac and, um, like, you know what was the classic for me?

That's old, like, 70s movie was, um, bad boy, it was Sean Penn when he beat the dude with the soda bottles back the soda cans. Was that in the box, too? Was, no.

“No, it wasn't Chicago. That's what I was at.”

- Yeah, but, like, you know, I go back and watch the old shit. - Superman. - Superman. You are, I know you watched the Mac. - Yeah, I can't remember. - Yeah. Goldie. - Come on, buddy.

- I remember. - You know, I come at America. - Yeah? - You like Uncle Buck though? Uncle Buck is a classic for me. - John Candy? - I don't remember. - I don't remember. - 'Cause you know, I was going to tell you about Uncle Buck.

- You thought you'd talk about that? - Yeah, that's a classic. - We don't talk about Uncle Buck over here, bro. - Yeah. - So you ain't remember, right? - Yeah. - You didn't just feel back in the days? - Don't talk about Uncle Buck, man. - John Candy, you don't know. - Uh, yeah.

- Yeah. - Oh, that's what it is, Uncle Buck. - Yeah, John Candy. - Come on, bro. - He was funny. - Yeah. - But yeah, I mean, you know. I just, for me, I just want to make sure that

is, is, that we could relate to. - That's a pretty cool thing. - Yeah.

You see these movies, these war movies, shit like that,

but you don't never see it from our perspective.

- Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. - You know what I mean? That's my thing. I'm like, I want to do this, so I want to do this. - Yeah. - Why can't I have every time we see like a military movie or whatever, as in special apps and the bunch of white dudes

wanted to be on the same side. - Yeah, you know. - You know, I'm seein' you on the other side. - Yeah, you know. - You know, there was this thing you were on the other side. - Yeah. - You know, there was this thing you were on the other side. - Yeah. - You know, there was this thing you were on the other side. - Yeah.

- You know, there was this thing you were on the other side. - Yeah. - You know, there was this thing you were on the other side. - Yeah. - I never knew what about stars. - Yeah. - Not the sound. - Cocky and that. - But I never knew about stars to 50 started doing everything over. - Yeah.

So I mean, the reaction you all got from power power was, what, eight years, seven year run? >> 10 years right now. >> 10 years right now. >> 10 years right now. >> It's got raising, can you not right now? >> No. >> Yeah, no, it's going to keep going. And it's crazy, man. >> It's something to me, like something with classes like the YS of pre-in-nose. >> 100%. >> Mm-hm. >> But that's the thing, right? Like the reason why that works so well,

because you got a guy like 50, who's going to tell you now, like, I forgot there was a scene with somebody sticking a syrup. They had to cough medicine in the cup and all that, and it's right.

“Fifth was the one that told me that's how you do it. And then like, I was, we was doing,”

we did be in math, they were trying to figure out how to cook coke. And I was like, come on, like, show y'all, whatever. You mean, like, the word in the pot, so yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? >> But I think that's the thing, a lot of these TV shows that they go off, and they try to do these gangster, or try to tell all our stuff. When you see the people that's really behind it, you're like, yeah, you don't know our story like that to tell it. Yeah, like,

well, that means that's all said. He was like, what do you see? The interview, he was talking about, like, somebody asked him, like, would you have made a movie like Shindra's versus

the first movie he was talking about, but he was like, you know, as a black character, whatever,

he goes, you know, we know what a hot cone was more like. Like, you know, and I said to say, like, if I'm going to do some Latin, like, you understand, like, how to write some beans, how are the moms going to be cooking it? How do you mean, like, all that stuff like, you love to understand what that is. So you got to hire the right people. Sometimes they just, you know, you don't have the authenticity. You don't have authentic people. They just

they slap shit together. And then you're like, oh, yeah, they're going to go out. You know, You know how many scripts that I got that, I'm like, - Yeah. - The same day. - No, this night, 'cause you ever seen the documentary I think it's called,

first one on the cast called, "Tenzio Watch and Tenzio Watch and Tenzio Watch." - I've seen it. - I've seen it. - It's great, I watched it. - Yeah. - And it had, like, black,

“making good, black, I think she is in black act.”

- Does that call, yeah? - First one on a cast. - Yeah, no more on a cast. - Yeah, no more on a cast. - Yeah, no more on a cast. - She's like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - She's like that.

- You know, it was my, like, Jamie Fox, his first time, you know, you know, with D.J. and go and sort of movies, they the first one, that's when you're the priority. Like, I'm the priority here, you know? - Fuck guys. - People like you say that.

(laughing) - She's, she's the priority, right? Like, it's McCuy, but it's, you know, between the Miller or, you know, going back to Ghost, it's to Rick, right?

He's the number one, like, he's, it's really, who's perspective are you watching this movie or this show through? - Okay. - That's the number one of the show. - Yeah, too.

- You know what I'm saying? And, but it's a, I mean, it's a lot to be that number one.

“- Yeah, so that's what that show was about.”

- Yeah, so when watching that show, and, and the women on the show were saying, like, sometimes when they, Vivico was talking about how she was on Independence Day. Like, she didn't like the way her hair look,

'cause she look crazy, you picture her hair, but when she's on a set of, maybe some Tyler Perry's doing, something that, you know, black people was directing, that they got the right people doing their hair and they make up for the show too.

These people might not do your hair and make up the way these people do the show. - So it was an interesting documentary, man. - Right, it's about the people behind the camera, behind the scenes, hair, makeup, wardrobe,

like, you gotta have the right people understand that. You know what I mean, how to comb the hair? How to get the straight, you know what, all that stuff, makeup, you know, same thing with lighting and everything else.

It's a certain way you gotta light a dark person, right? Brown skin, whatever, you gotta know how to light them

because I would never use like a green light

for like a highlight, because what happens, you put green, you know what I'm saying? You look at the skin, look like a zombie, right? Like the skin look bad and it's like, "Yo, you can't use green," like, you know,

or you, and that even blue, like you could, like I think the certain shows they do that, but reality, the dark skin, like when it's brown, you gotta use warm temperature, like the yellows, you know what I mean, like the cool warm, and the compromise the skin.

- Come on, fuck us here, that shooting me? - Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. - That's right, that's fine, that's fine. - That's fine, that's fine, that's fine. - That's fine, that's fine, that's fine.

- Look at the light today, man. - Tell the people what you got coming up next.

- We got China, we're not coming up next. - We got China, we're not coming up next. - We got China, we got China, we're not coming up next.

- First of all, got it, yeah, we got the mic's to clean up.

- We got the mic's to clean up, we got the mic's to clean up. - Let's look for it today. - Tell the people. - She's a big time. - Big time, the cast is crazy. - Oh, well, like the cast. - You got the mic's to clean up. - You got the mic's to clean up. - You got the mic's to clean up.

- The old guard, she was the lead in that, she was also on. - Okay. - The old guard, she was the comethamerica. - That's right, that's right. - That's right. - Then I got the kid from Blue Beetle, Sholo. But he's doing that, who's also in Copa Kai.

- Shout out to him. - We got, we got, man, Ryan, Levingstin. You got Diego Bullnetta, like he's a huge Mexican star. Bro, we got Franky Faze on. - Okay. - Okay. - Kendrick Samson. - Okay.

“- From, man, what was that show on HBO for the name of the show?”

- But you got Kendrick. - So I heard you, heard, I heard you mentioned the fear factor, because some people think it is easy. So look, the field was shot. So now you still got to go down, so that's the fear factor. - That's the fear factor. - So that's the fear factor.

So sometimes you go there with a distributive, they see the movie before hands on the mic and you go there, or you go there to sell it. - Okay. - So if you go there, for example, to run a film festival, that's international. So you're gonna get a lot of buyers.

So like, you'll get like, Amazon, Netflix or whatever. Then it's okay. We won't buy, we won't run international. And then we also want to do the states. - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause it's all about distribution. - God, we're just distributing the movie. - You know what's the main question

of the show, though? Before we close out murder? - You try. - Well, we're gonna get it. So you ain't like it. You ain't like it. We, we, we, we, all right, here we go. So right down, working on another film project.

- Okay. - Okay. - Um, uh, and now, and now I'm like.

“- Good, you know what I mean? - I don't know,”

but the story is gonna be the biopic. - Okay. - Throw back. - You ready for this one? - Uh-huh. - Kimbo Slice. - Oh, shit. - Mm-hmm. - Make murder fight.

Kimbo Slice. - Kimbo Slice. (laughing) (laughing) - That's gonna be fired. - That's gonna be fired. - That's gonna be fired. - That's gonna be fired.

That's gonna be like MMA UFC. - That's gonna be like MMA UFC. - Oh, look at that. - Oh, look at that. - Kimbo Slice is like, "Hey, please, please." - People think you're gonna get all that back yard shit. Like, yeah, you're gonna see that, but you're gonna really see the journey.

Like, "Were, if nobody punched that one guy, I always hit that one guy."

- So, you know, originally I had it, and then FIF was gonna play that role, and so I'm gonna have to act to play it again. - Oh, shit. - No, you couldn't have-- - Well, let murder fight, Kimbo Slice fucked out of here. - I'm good on that role. - Get it on the role.

(laughing) - You know, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a bunch of shit, man. Then you keep us in mind, keep us in mind. (upbeat music) - Good luck surviving the offseason football fans.

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