Episode 657: The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs Part II - 3 Guys, 1 Hammer - Free Transcript | Last Podcast On The Left

There's no place to escape to, this is the lost talk.

On the left. [laughs] Why, what's your glare? Let's run a cannon for us and start it. [screaming]

Give us that. [music playing] Yeah! [music playing] [screaming]

[music playing] So boys, naive, are you ready to come back to my world? I'm here, I'm in it! So you, this is your world. Yeah.

So you're giving up aliens for Hammer Maniacs. I have found a purpose.

He's always been pretty enthusiastic about brutal murder.

So no Satanism anymore. No. Straight Hammer murder. Hammer murders. That's all I like.

Now, how do you feel about the movie you were never really there? The Joaquin Phoenix, Lim Ramsey, taxi driver, Hammer moving. Extremely good moving. It's phenomenal, Phil.

Great Hammer moving. Great Hammer, you know, there aren't enough Hammer moving. There are not also, you know, I'd also say it's kill list. Kill list.

Because it's got a great hammer scene. It's a lot of Hammer scene and kill list, huh? Do you have a preference of Hammer, club, mallet, ball-peen? Unfortunately, I like an old-fashioned, just fucking ball-peen Hammer. Yeah.

“Just normal, oven-old-fucking, like, that's the best thing.”

If you really want to kill somebody the old Hammer's in. Dude, I honestly, I just type with my left hand. It's my hammer back and forth to just get myself in the zone. But we're here. Welcome to last podcast on the left.

I'm still your narrator, and I'm sorry, Henry Supraowski. And to my right, I have comedic, genius, Marcus Park. But I'll step at it. That's me. It's gibberish.

Oh, but I think big, oh, perfect. Oh, Mr. Musken, Stoyish, look, Logan. Look at Gus, and then we have racetrater, Ed Larson. New Schengheifers. Yeah.

Very good. How do you feel being the Ukrainian representation on the show? You know, it's weird how little I know about my people. It's incredible. I had no idea that you had Ukrainian blood until this episode.

Look at his face. Look at his face. Look at his face. Yeah. No, I see it.

25% Polish, 25% Russia, Russia, 50 of you, Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm in there, dude.

I always thought that was a polish head, not to Ukrainian head.

It was a little polish. Yeah. It was a polish. Yeah, it was a polish. It would have wooded you.

Because I tell you why. It would have really hard to smash your head open with hammers. That's what I'm saying. I'm surprised because Ukrainian's historically can take a punch. You know what?

“That's why they went after women and children.”

Oh, that's right. I forget. And I recently bought a tack hammer. To answer your question. Very nice.

Yeah. I went to put up a penit and I had a tack. The wall was too hard. And I was like, I know what I'm going to do. I went to the fucking lumber store.

And I got a tack hammer. I went home and I hit the tack. You're an old man. You're an old man. You're an old fucking man.

We spent our Saturday. Eat and stew and watch and cruise in it. I'll save that for our other child. You know, old I was I still buy penits. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Which you're favorite hammer. I'm good old fashioned claw. I love a claw.

But I also love a good slight hammer. And this is a claw. Yeah. That's a claw hammer right there. Because of the back.

Yeah. You know, there's a lot of different options for the claw hammer. With ball peeing with all those. You got one option with a claw hammer. You can bludgeon.

You can rip. You can tear this a lot of stuff. Unfortunately, our maniacs know.

“Unfortunately, the proper way to hit somebody multiple times with the hammer is on the side.”

Because then it doesn't get stuck. Yeah. And you don't have to Jimmy it out. Interesting. That is what they discovered using a trial and error.

That's true. That is wild. Oh, yeah. What kind of hammer did they use? Good old fashioned.

That one. Right there. A claw hammer. Oh, yeah, wrapped up in plastic. But let's get into it.

When we last left our maniacs. What? What? When we last left our maniacs. They were revving up when they should have been given up.

Eight victims and twelve days. Each killed in the same horrific way. Tricked to the side of the road. Surprised from behind. And then beaten with hammers until their faces were unrecognizable.

This wave of mayhem took over dinner proper throfts. Leaving its citizens terrified. Looking over their shoulder at every year. The police investigation just couldn't get started. No one wanted to link the crimes together because that would make it to serious.

Sure. Surriculars do not exist in Soviet and fluency grain. The streets became empty. Cafes and movie theaters abandoned.

The maniacs stalked a neapro freely and were killing like the never-market.

The man before who? Fuck you, Bob. Yo, that's great. That's beautiful. That was good.

Up until this point, the boys. They're maniacs. The maniacs, the maniacs. They're sure. It's about a lonely woman.

Up until this point, the boys, it mostly filmed.

They mostly filmed animal torture and mutilation.

It is believed they filmed some of their robberies as well.

“But their big hit would be a change of subject matter for their film, Ubera.”

This would be the first time they recorded a murder of a human being.

And they were very excited. Who wouldn't be? Yep. Now the long-form video that the world would come to know was three guys one hammer. A scene in an eight minute cut on the internet.

The director's cut, which played in court, the original video was over 30 minutes long and featured our maniacs chuckling and nervous like virgins before a high school dance. You got to talk to us. You're the same energy. Yeah, same energy.

It's wild to see how young they are. Acting like they're about to do something fun together, like go on a jet ski. Or see last podcast that'll have live in Pittsburgh, May 29th of the Carnegie. That's right. And if you bring a hammer, you get a free breader side sticker.

I promise you. I promise you. You gotta leave the hammers at a basket, but initial them, you'll get them back. No one was supposed to see this footage. Outside of the duty.

The duty. And the boys.

“It would play in the trial alongside the recording of a kitten of the kitten crucifixion.”

If you guys remember. I said the kitten crucifixion. More than a kitten crucifixion. You know what's the kitten crucifixion? It's like you would think it'd be cuter.

You know, but it really, it just wasn't. What? I really, really. I really, really, really crucifixion. Pontius Puglant.

You know, the little Roman, like little Roman, like all being on there. It's true to fight him. It's better for the, you know, the pun. But if we're getting judgey dogs, it's going to be a corgi. If that's, we should do it half a corgi.

That's very cute. Pugges piglet. Save it. Save it. This is all children's butt.

You know, ambulances were actually shipped parked outside of the court while this footage was shown because so many people. This is true. We're faining and vomiting after seeing it. Three guys, one hammer rose would be named by the uploader.

Was filmed on July 12th, 2007. And it centers on the murder of 48-year-old Sergey Yatsenko. Now, we're going to go into the detail of this contents verbally. But I'm not going to show any of the video.

“And honestly, it's hard because it's not really just because of taste.”

It's because I'm apparently crystaly about the rights to show young ladies on Snapchat.

Where things are never deleted.

I remember. Now, I'm going to, we are going to go by, we're doing this beat for beat. Yeah. So we have here. We have our cast Marcus Parks.

He will be playing Igor Sapunyuk. And Victor Seenko will be played by Ed Larsson. Yes. So you're going to read the lines. I'm going to read the staged directions.

We're going to go through the entire video so that you don't have to watch it. In the first part of the video, Igor and Victor plan what they will do to their victim. It's the first 20 minutes of the 30 minute video. They had parked the day woo in the side of the road waiting for the right victim. Victor balances the phone on top of the car to get a wide shot of the street.

Igor says, "We've built a stupid car that comes by and if it's a big strong guy, it comes out. We tell him no problem as in move on. But if he'll leave the one, comes up. We tell him welcome.

We see it!" And then he pulls the yellow hammer out of a plastic shopping bag. Igor plays it up for the camera. He hid the camera behind his back and then exclaimed, "I want to put out the key!" He did, he's like, "Ren.

I want to point out what they've been waiting for a few minutes. Victor says, "This is going to be waiting all week!" They also talk about hoping the person has a cell phone. But not once so nice that they won't be able to sell it quickly. Victor jokes about how difficult doing the killing while filming with one hand is going to be.

They decide that if it's a one man and one woman who passed by first,

they'll do it. But if it's two men, they'll have to see how they look. Igor yons and struts around board. While they're waiting, they also talk about the blood stains, the other victims left on their daybook.

Igor says, "They are like pigs, staining the car with their blood. Eventually Sergey Yotsenko pedals towards the maniacs. This man is a survivor. He had already escaped as his van actually crashed in a lake.

And he escaped from the lake on his own. He barely survived. And then he just got out of remission from the road cancer. He still on his head, his surgery bandages on from the cancer surgery. So he got cancer surgery.

God knew his car to drive home. Bike. I thought this was like just the worst. I got the eggons to like then I have thru cancer. I find that if they cut the dog,

they go home on bike and then do maniacs.

The eggplants in Russia.

Hospice is 12 hours long. Igor says, "Someone on the bicycle is cunning.

“When Victor asks what the guy looks like,”

Igor responds, he's normal as a wait for Sergey to approach." Victor Jokes said, "You'll take at least an hour and a half to get here, come on!" Then right before the attack, Igor says, "If he's thrown, help me kill him to which Victor responds."

"Of course, of course!"

And finally Victor exclaims in excitement.

"What the video we will capture, not just picture! He's going to be like ice and stine on top! Go, thank you!" Igor just watching Tarkovsky and it's funny just how serious just the production still is.

Like just a bit below. They throw a lot of pipes in that. They do. Now Sergey rides past. Igor swings the hammer.

Still in the yellow plastic bag and knocks him off his bike. The boy's giddy as school girls run over to the injured man now in the ground groaning. Then Igor hits him in the head with the hammer. Victor runs over with the phone camera in hand at Igor's urging as he says.

"You get this shot, get this shot! Still laughing!" They drag Sergey off the road into the woods. They smack him with the hammer again. And Sergey seems to be trying to yell or speak. But addition to being bludgeon in the face and head

is voice hadn't recovered from his recent throat surgery. Igor tells Victor, "Klaid, guide!" As he struggles not to laugh. Listen to his gurgling.

“They then bring the camera closer to the struggling Sergey”

as they hold for silence for a full minute as his muted groans fill the speakers. They laugh in his face as he mutely cries out. Then Victor uses a screwdriver to remove Sergey's eyeballs until we see the pink brain matter that's exposed to the air.

He stabs Sergey over and over again in the belly with the same screwdriver. Igor says, "Vithya, we must take a picture with him as a memory." Victor is a cute little nickname for Victor. He then says,

"This time was awesome." "Yeah, I don't understand how he stayed alive. I had screwdriver like this and I stopped!" He demonstrates how he had held the weapon. "I could feel his brain!"

Sergey survived for a full eight minutes. The camera moves inches away from Sergey. His face now a puddle of bone and blood. Igor taunts him one last time asking, "What a fucking day for you, huh?"

They finally washed the weapon and their hands with the bottle of water.

Victor appears panic at this point urging Igor to leave immediately. Igor says, "No, they must get the picture first. This is where we last see them with Sergey. Standing over his corpse."

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I'm not ready. In mid July, a funeral service was held for 13-year-old Andre, one of our younger victims, from episode 1. Young Vadim, the first to identify the pair to the police after days of beatings, was not ready to go to the funeral, so he stayed home.

Luckily, or unlikely for him, the hammer maniacs also attended. This would become another category in their photography portfolio. They attended the funeral, waited until the congregants left, and then took posed photographs with the casket. Afterwards, Igor would use MS paint to add Hitler Mustaches to victor in his face.

They attended several victim's funerals and always had a little photo shoot afterwards,

given the graves, the middle finger, and the traditional socket X. Oh, like DX. They didn't even have the common decency to nail the coffin shut. Right? They were going to go to the airport.

Hey, you know, nope, again, they don't build lasting legacies. After a truly horrendous run, leaving 21 people dead, Igor and Victor entered into a traditional cooldown phase. Probably. They noticed it was stopped, worried it started to spread.

“D'Nipro is only so big, how long could they hide if they stayed in town?”

Sure. By now, every police officer in D'Nipro was on the case. Pedro Ochvar had the investigative department of the D'Nipro Petrovsk Regional Prosecutor's office, even admitted their investigation had massive problems. Obviously.

Yeah. Many of their original tax and robberies were never even reported to higher-ups. They were considered one-and-done crimes. They didn't do anything about it, but at least they admitted it. And there was several like disciplinary hearings.

Yeah. They were like, "Oh, there they are. They probably have never fucking worked before these cops in a small-ass town like this." Well, it is, again, it's all about, this is the middle period in which everything that was rushing about Ukraine is still trying to become Ukrainian.

And it is very difficult for them to get rid of the old world police attitudes.

Yeah.

And all of these ideas of they just were, they kind of were expected to run the place on the run. And they had descriptions of them. Yes.

“But they had, you would have to first take the children witness this seriously, which is again,”

they were not wanted to do. I mean, it's not that small. It's the fourth largest city in Ukraine. I guess it is pretty tough. I guess it is pretty tough.

Yeah. It might be great. I mean, it's not, I mean, it's not that, I mean, it's around the, according to Wikipedia,

the 2022 estimate was a little under a million people.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. You know what I'm wrong? It's the size of like Austin.

Yeah. Or maybe, yeah, about the size of Austin. But it doesn't matter because the heat was starting to turn up. Igor and Victor would regularly pond the goods they stole. This would be no different.

“See, the key was to rob people with brick phones, nothing too new.”

They decided against their better judgment and tried to sell a newer one for $20 USD. Once activated, the sim paying the phone company, the police located device, the pair were arrested as they walked out the door done. It was immediately they went to go one cell phone, literally by the time they left they were arrested.

They then went to Alexander Hans's house and arrested him there almost simultaneously. And Alexander was the kid that didn't, that wasn't a part of the murder. Yeah. Yeah. He had just robbed a couple of people and decided I'm out.

But he was also the poorer one too. Yes. And he was included in the shots, like in the mug shots of the maniacs. And he probably knew they were doing it. Well, there were other, yes, there's been other factors probably to the arrest,

but we're not quite certain. The cashier could have probably recognized them from wanted posters and have called the police discreetly. That is possible. We don't know, though.

It is possible. This is what they were saying. This is one of those more interesting nebulous things is that they were ratted out by out in acquaintance that was scouted by them to be a

potential new third maniac, like Shep.

Wow. Here we're going to have another guy in there. Wow. And there was a guy that they might have been courting that then went and told the police. Okay.

So you're saying that Igor and Victor, that's Larry and Moe and Alexander is like curly. He was. Yeah. And then he'd left. He left.

And then he tried getting a Shep and then Shep told. Hey. Shep boy. Shep. You like hammer.

Shep. Shep. Shep. Shep. You know they say there's a million ways to skin a cat.

To an end, the skaters dispatched their homes to search for evidence, Igor and Victor's parents were not exactly cooperative with authorities. Victor's parents kept the police outside the home for 40 minutes as sounds of septic pipes flushing could be heard in the neighbors living room. The next day plumbers took apart the pipes inside the complex to find a watch and three cell phones belonging to victims of the hammer maniacs. I am the one who's not interested in the proper way to get the car. Meckle flush.

Oh no. Now I have to take feces dumps. I have much worse for lunch than I am. I cannot argue. I also had the bush for lunch and currently I am fighting much diaries.

I am fighting the real with all of the strength of Bosch and Salvi. You're grail your cranium. Fight diaries and win.

If you're creating a toilet's word so clogged, they would have never found this evidence.

Right? So these two cross-eyed trolls, they were awful at being elite soldiers of the area in race, laughable considering the Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of their countrymen. I mean, to be fair. They helped. For freelance maniacs.

They did good. The egg 21 is pretty high now. But we learn from the Fox catcher series, like if you have the support of the state, you can accomplish anything.

“Honestly, that's why we need those art programs back.”

So according to detectives, while searching for clues in Igor's and Victor's rooms, it looked as if no attempt was made at all for covering for their many crimes. And both Igor and Victor's closets, the every single item had blood stains. Every shirt, every jacket, every pair of sneakers. Was splashed with fat drops of crusty red and brown sleuths.

Mostly brown, blood dries brown, brown. Also among the maniacs, personal belongings. They found a bloody earring, ripped from the lobe of one of the victims, and several computer hard drives containing their self-made memorabilia. Igor collected newspaper clippings about the killings in a scrapbook.

Think about a 19-year-old keeping a scrapbook.

He's followed his own story obsessively.

Several murders would only get linked to the pair because Igor saved the specific article

about a random dead body, otherwise police would have no idea. And the report detectives noted Igor's dog-eared copy of Minecraft at the side of the bed. Dog-eared, so he saved certain passages to read it down.

“Yeah, it's been like, "Ah, y'all, I think it's a good one."”

[laughter] Oh, my struggle! Oh, what's the fucking read then there? Oh, yeah, yeah, full comb. Well, that's the question that I have.

Is that, you know, they'd say that Victor's parents wouldn't let them in. Yeah, because they were flushing evidence. So did their parents just know that they were killing people? Yeah, they just sort of, you know, they would go with it later. They'd open animal skeletons in the house, right?

The parents seem to really view that they are doing the harmless boy thing of mutilating many, many animals. Sure. That is what they're saying is that this is how could this be a crime? They are just boys.

Yes, they have systematically tortured these animals. But they are, they viewed them as like, "Oh, you know, it's just country boy. Duke country theme." Yeah. And so they were begging off entirely saying that there's no way that they ever could have done.

It's also like, they were busy. They were, they both were professionals, both of them, both of their parents were. They were not around.

“They also were just, they just kind of, by that point, they were in 19.”

Yeah. But even so it seems like there's like Richard Chase's apartment is like inside somebody's home. Yes. And how are you going to miss that? It's because they were, they didn't want it to be true.

Yeah. Also, as someone with a Ukrainian mother, she would have done anything to keep me out of jail. That is not really a crime for you. You're funny enough. It's true because it's that it will come up.

They refused to believe that they were guilty. Once at the police station, Igor and Victor quickly confessed to at least 19 killings. Victor tried to soften his involvement, stating he only did it for the money. Igor, on the other hand, enjoyed his newfound spotlight. What asked by detectives how he felt after murdering almost two dozen innocent people he responded.

Well, do you feel when you cut a sausage? Excitement. I feel good, I feel good too. I like cutting sausage, I cut sausage all day. Oh, well, I think you mean something else.

I cut sausage. Yeah. Oh, man. When they're on the grill and they get all fat and you cut it and the juice squirts out. Yes.

I love a toddler. Yeah. Now I can see your Ukrainian. When I see the joy, when you talk about sausage juice. So good.

We're going to independent. We're going to enable us only trying to get sausages. Igor was quite excited about the details. I'm learning step by step the murder of Sergey Yatsenko. When asked by interrogators, why did he film this?

He's simply stated. Do a remember.

In their first initial hearing, the boys geared at the live human audience.

They were held in a cage and court like a traveling auditing.

“But we know that's how they do it in Eastern Europe.”

It's kind of fun. I want that. I want it. Yeah, the cage in the courtroom. It was pretty great.

Alexander was the only one physically beaten by police. He was the only one of them to not murder a human being. We know why. They didn't even like beat them for fun, even. No, because they were very connected.

Yeah. That's crazy to me. So Alexander got all of the anger, all of it. They beat the living should out of him. Because they were beaten a confession out of him that he didn't.

And he actually. He held strong. He'd be a weird way. He gave up the other two. They were given a psych evaluation and they were proven as fit to stand trial.

That didn't stop Igor's lawyer for mounting an insanity plea defense for his client. Victor's lawyer would also follow suit stating Igor got pleasure from the mortars. And admitted to the investigator that if the police had not taken him away, he would have continued to commit the atrocities. Igor forced Victor to film videos. Victor was afraid of becoming a victim of the hammer maniac himself.

That's always the fucking defense when there's two people.

One person all the way. Yeah, I don't want to think I was kind of barbecued. But yeah, it's. Yeah, that's always. In the pre-trial hearing scare.

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Chapter on it.

Oh, fucking hell.

I've got a letter at piece of shit.

I read the one chapter. I've got a letter at piece of shit. I've got a letter at piece of shit. I've got a letter at piece of shit. I've got a letter at piece of shit.