Episode 680: Q&A III

On the left. That's one of the cannibalism started. I had to talk to you, okay? You're doing your exercises? Yes.

That's what I'm saying.

“Welcome to the last podcast on the left.”

I'm leaving today's episode. I'm doing it. I'm taking the rain. I'm taking it back because today, we're not in the studio sure, but we are because we are. We're here.

We are. You're doing a bad job right up time. You're lying on camera. I'm never the sky. Sure.

So today we decided to do a picture on Q&A episode because you guys are so curious about us. We're just so mysterious, unknowable artists that we thought it's time for us to part the curtains for the very first time and explain to you what we're like personal. Oh yeah, yeah, people are not very serious.

Yeah, you're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. I'm just going to do it.

I am Henry's breast gain. I'm sitting here with former major host of the show Marcus Parks. Former. Cool. Yeah, I'll do I get paid the same.

No. Oh. We're bumping you down. All right. Fine.

Let's stress.

And I have those little responsible as always.

And I said, Lars, and I did it for you. Did you? Did you learn at Lars? This is going really well. I'm really glad that I'm in charge.

Yeah. So what I have is a bunch of questions in front of me. I hope some of them are sad. There's a lot of sad ones, there's a lot of inappropriate ones. And there's a lot of ones that make me angry.

But those are, but I also think they're good ones. Okay. And so we're going to do a big mix of all of them. Nice. So number one.

Okay. Or do you want to do one tea up some? I have nothing to talk about. I talked to you all day every day. This is the only thing I need to do.

Yeah. You want it gone up on my life. I am gone up. I know every story. I know every moment.

So first of all, first question.

What's your guys' worst fear? Oh. Prison. Yeah. Yeah, prison.

Definitely. Yeah, but definitely prison. Prison for sure. You know, that I definitely dream about going to prison a lot. But I definitely, like, I'm scared of really bad of getting hit by a car or falling really

hard.

“I really, I think of what I think like that's how I'm going to die.”

I feel like I'm falling though, not like while I'm walking, like, off like something off the side of something or, you know, you lean and it doesn't have the support. You think it does. Oh, yeah. Sure.

I really think it's going to be an oopsie dude that takes me out because I get kind of reckless when I'm happy. Yeah, you have to really be very careful. Yeah. Yeah.

And I am afraid of my own potential. Yeah. So I just want to fully embrace it. I want to fully embrace it because I honestly, I need to leave some for a lot for the rest of the year.

Yeah. I remember one guy quit our old sketch group murder fist because he said it was getting too successful. I do remember that. And then I was just like, well, you, I have no money.

Yeah. What do you mean? What are you talking about? About work 80 hours a week before I do this. Yeah.

No money.

“What sort of complex did that guy have where he had to be that hated?”

I don't know. It was wild. He's a, it was problem. He's problem. But I honestly though, I think the thing I'm most afraid of is what I'm currently

dealing with, which is a thing that I think a lot of guys in my age are afraid of, which is the doctor. Oh. Yeah. What the doctor is going to tell you.

I'm afraid of the impending bad news. I'm afraid to know, but I know that I'm supposed to. And I'm literally fighting through generations of being afraid of the doctor.

My father was afraid of the doctor by I never met my paternal grandfather at all because he

died. My dad was ten. Every Zebraoski died of alcoholism or heart attack before they all reach a, I, at a old age. My father is the oldest Zebraoski in like six generations. Wow.

Yes. And he was going for it. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

That's a good sign though. You're trying to live. Except, you know, and then I bust it up in my penis top, which is still in there. Yeah. I'm eating fucking berries.

I think it's good that your dick and balls are black and blue because now you know

your limits. You're going too hard at the gym for too long. Yeah. Yeah. You can tell.

So let's go to the next question. That's the worst part about being like this is that the more you work out, the way I'm shaped, you just look more like a treestone. I just look fat or fat or just look bigger. Look like a giant rock, which is what I want to do.

Well, that's actually good because that gives you fucking low key like able to wreck somebody. That's what I want to do. No, what you've got, you've got 1930's Circus Strongman body. Yeah.

That's, that's what you have. I am the same measurement. I'm not even joking. Shoulders. Tits.

Middle section. Waste. Literally. One size. You're the only guy at the gym that uses the barbells with the big round.

Circle ways to the butt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you bring your own handlebar mustache?

Did you rip the ones they have there at the gym? I normally rent them and I'm a size 9er. You don't have enough rope at this gym. Yeah. I got it.

I got it. Where's all my rope? Okay. You can only bring me two tiny lasses to sit on each end of my dumbbells and I can lift them all after noon.

What's your favorite beer? Favorite beer? Really? Yeah. I know these people want to know.

I'm just going through some light. I'm going to go through light and heavy. I'm really into Italian Pilsners. I love my Italian Pilsners. I think the delicious American is perfect.

My favorite beer. It's called Sundays. It's only available in Brooklyn, but can't get it out here.

“But you should drink in Brooklyn all the time.”

But yeah. Sundays.

Best beer ever made spot a cow.

Yes. But I would say the beer. I drink the most. It's probably 805. I really thought you were going to say it off Hitler.

Yeah. No. He honestly was 80 totaler. I also like the big grolches. The large ones that had the Pilsners.

Yeah, those are great. I love Polish beers and check beers. I like a good thing. Pilsners. Light loggers.

Yeah. IP. I can go fuck it though. Fuck it, doc. Yeah.

I don't like IPA. If there was a fascinating, all of the, of all of the fascinating, mysterious events we have covered here at last podcast and left, which is the one you wish you could have witnessed with your own two eyes. Ooh.

Can I go first? Go ahead. That guy shooting all those little goblins coming out of the trees to his house. Hopkinsville. Hopkinsville.

Hopkins. Fuck yeah, dude. That's a good one, Andy. That's a really good one. Just like what happened there.

Yeah. Um. Guess I would like to see JFK get shot. Yeah, me too. I want to check the breeder from just relax.

I want to see the old man. I want to see the other angle. I want to see the other angle. Yeah. Get shot if you're on the other side.

That is true. That's where you're shooting. I would, but or if there was something that crash and raw as well, I'd like to see

“the crash, that'd be fun, um, maybe, um, hmm, yeah, I think, okay.”

JFK get shot. Yeah. You know what? I'd take it back. Me lie.

Great. Yeah. That mysterious event. It's not like they're a photojournalist there, they're very mysterious, very, very mysterious, an entire trial that outlined everything that happened from every angle talking to every person

in detail. Um, I would like to see what happened at the Deart Lough pass. Yeah. Because it is the story of a group of hikers that went up, I believe it was it. Russia.

Russia. Yeah. It's like a, and they, uh, maybe Ukraine, like Soviet state. It's a, in that area, the world, they go, they go, uh, they go hiking and essentially they're found in the mysterious state where, you know, like, some of them have no clothes.

And they're like up against the tree, one person at their tongue removed. And there's a bunch of different theories. Obviously now they're saying there is a, we are going to do a redo on that. Yeah, we are. We are absolutely going to do a redo on it because there's like some new answers, but I would

love to have been there that night doing it to them. Mine was so innocent. Mine was about gobbler. Yeah. This is about gobbler.

This is about gobbler. No, because we don't know what a, it legitimately seems it was a natural thing. Yeah. Versus like anything, but there's a lot of UFO connections on the country. Yeah.

Or even cryptic connections. Yeah. Which would be kind of fun.

“Um, have any of you guys seen each other's penises?”

Um, surprisingly. No. I've seen everything around your penis many, many, many times every part of I've grabbed Henry's naked ass plenty of times, but I don't think I've actually seen your penis. Yeah.

I've seen you holding your penis naked on stage more times than I can count. That's true. Yeah. And you're a little bit. Yeah.

I used to throw you out onto stage naked. Yeah. But yeah. No, that was I was usually like grab some of your back hair or like your tuition toss you onto stage.

Yeah.

But I've never seen Marcus's fully nude and I've never seen you nude.

We even lived together. Yeah. I just saw you. I've seen every little round your balls. I've seen your balls.

I've seen just your balls. Have you? You've showed me just your balls. Oh, yeah. That's cool.

Yeah. But obviously you don't remember that. Yeah. No, I don't. There's so many years.

“I remember what time I showed you just above my penis because you asked me about a sore”

that you had. Yeah. I was like, you mean like this one? Yep. That's called Fat Man.

That's Fat Man. Socialized Medicine. And you have to understand that. What's the funniest smell you can think of? I just saw that one.

Cotton candy vomit. Wow. All right, funniest smell I can think of. If you have one go, I'm still thinking. I'm trying to...

Cloud breath. Cloud breath. That's my glow. That's my fucking glow. That's my fucking glow.

The worst part of a cloud. Cloud breath. Come close, huh? Funny is smell. Yeah, I guess it would have to be circus themed, I guess.

I guess the other two were cotton candy vomit. Yeah. Cloud breath. I guess that makes sense. But funny is smell.

Oh, big foot stick. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Winner, winner.

Yeah. What are you guys' white whale vinyl's? Oh. That's the thing at this point. I have found my white whales.

I found that they have recently got a first pressing maggot brain. And I found two in the same store. I found both and I bought one for Henry to start off his new vinyl collection.

There's that. Yeah, it was at a permanent records here in LA, which is fucking amazing record store. Oh, that is awesome. There's one record I used to have

that I lost through time and I want back really bad. It was the rhythm devils, which was the drum section of the grateful dead, doing their version of the Apocalypse Now soundtrack. That's great.

Yeah, no, I gave it to a friend when I was homeless

for a little while, but I never got it back.

And I've never seen it anywhere, ever. And I really got it for $2 at a record store in Tallahassee. And it was really cool with all clicks and stuff. I, you know, like when he's playing the boat, you know, the apocalypse now, it's like that the whole time.

It's really cool. And it's calm, and I miss it. And I hope to see it again sometime. Also the first police problem, police brothers album, tonight at the Arizona,

is really hard to find a vinyl. And there's those darlings that, you know, they only made so many of those and I really love them. And I can listen to those on Spotify and stuff. So I'm not like completely devoid of the music.

Sure. But my biggest white whale was the Bushwood Gospel singers. I couldn't find, I was like friends with the band. I wanted to hear it again. I got stripped from online.

And I was calling them and none of them. Yeah, remember that stuff. And then finally Zoe, John Marano's wife, who's in the Bushwood Gospel singers. She found a CD sent it to Julie and Julie got a vinyl press for me.

Oh, that's great. Oh, yeah, the Bushwood Gospel singer's commonly used to play shows them all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember the best. Yeah, they were amazing. Yeah, and my other white whale that I found

is Suicide's First Record, first pressing of that. Oh, yeah.

“And I believe a bad name is Suicide of the Second Album.”

Yeah, they had four.

Oh, you see there's always unsuccessful attempts.

Yeah. What do you have to say? I honestly, I don't know yet. I'm not really there. I am kind of like, you guys are deeply obsessed

within the world of music and know what you want. Where I still feel like I'm very much still discovering. Yeah, and you got to find your lane. My favorite music is stuff like I'm kind of like a song guy. And I'm still discovering quite a bit of stuff.

So I feel like now that I'm deep into jazz, I really like that. But I'm not like, I'm not yet into the world of vinyl where I can even really understand the difference between the various vinyls. What I listen to them.

I can't do their personality. You know, I mean, like obviously if one is a crackle and another one doesn't, that's obvious. That's different, you know, but like I just didn't. I just like them.

Like I don't know the difference between, like that's like one of those things where I get hung up on that you guys know. Like I don't know what the difference is between all the pressings are and why one's good versus one's not as good. They're like a thin, flimsy ones aren't good.

Yeah, the thick ones are the like the audio files. The 180 gram new ones are always good, but then they're not all the recorded from digital rather than from tape usually. And that's the problem. Yes, because that's the main issue, the new, because the old ones,

“because like so I think you guys both said to me a really good”

axiom for vinyl buying is by vinyl from when vinyl was peak. What when it was, what you want is you want like if you're buying albums from the 60 70s and 80s, like those are mixed to sound good on a record. Yes, but if you're buying like 90 stuff by CDs because those were mixed

doesn't fucking matter. We specifically though produced our Halloween sound effects album for vinyl. Yeah, tack on question for this.

“What was the first record or cassette or CD you guys bought?”

The first cassette I ever bought was the Adam's Family Rat by MC Hammer.

Fuck yeah, yeah, it's the first cassette. Adam's Family. Yeah, that was the first cassette single I bought. The first record I ever bought was actually here in Los Angeles. I was 14 and it was a bootleg of a bunch of guns and roses demos from way

back from the appetite for destruction sessions. I still have that record. Yeah. I knew this were some money. Oh, yeah, yeah, and the first CD I bought I believe was the Woodstock 94 double

CD. That's yeah. Mine was bullet. Those two man. No, I took that back.

Stone Temple Pilots purple.

That was the first CD I ever bought.

Oh, hell yeah. First CD I ever bought was Simpson Sing The Blues. That was the second tape I ever bought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the first that was the first full cassette album I ever bought.

Oh, hell yeah. Right after the cassette single. I remember one day I was like, told my mom I was starting to get into hip hop and she was down for whatever I wanted, you know, she's like, she just wanted to make me happy. I wasn't only son.

And so she was like, she's like, all right, you have $50. She took me to a place called Peaches, great record store at Boko. And she was like, all right, get any albums you want, I'll make sure you get them because of parental advisory. And then I got two live crew sports weekend, Cyprus Hill Black Sunday, Snoop Doggy

style and Dr. Dr. Dr. The Chronic God and I was great. Well, yeah, and it was awesome. Wow, yeah. You're the hardest football boy in the whole store. Yeah, I had by 10, I had already like, I knew all of those albums by heart because my brother had all of them and I would take his CDs and make tapes when he was like outhanging

out with his friends. Hell yeah, yeah. Do you see boys to men, Henry? Yeah, boys to men. Really high harmony or the one with a make love to you, that you want me to I was a very romantic

little boy. Yeah. My very first cassette tape was the fan some of the opera soundtrack. And then boys to men, I loved, I loved that was like when I was really into, oh, what else?

And like, it was sublime.

“I think sublime was a big one in garbage garbage that first album, I think I purchased”

because I was sexually trans-fixed, I'm sure, I mean, it's understandable. Still in. So, this next question is, this is a harder question, and I like it, but it's a compliment to request. But also, I'm interested in the subject.

Yeah, you started off with a couple of fucking softballs. Yeah. So this is one that's complimentary, but also a thing I literally struggle with as a business owner and creators. So for youth, your guys are business owners, self promoters, industry disruptors, in

these worlds of this current day and age, how, how is our perspective changed from the beginning of creating a company, LPN, which was around 2017, to now. Like what exactly has changed? How do we stay vaguely relevant, which I would call us? Like, how would you say, and it's like, how do we not completely sell out?

Hmm.

Well, I mean, the philosophy has always been to talk about and to make things that we think

are good, and things that we think we're passionate about, because once you start chasing relevance or anything like that, you're fucking lost. The moment you start chasing all that, you are absolutely lost. Like you can make stuff that is, you know, within, I guess the zeitgeist, you can kind of see, like, what people are making, but it always has to be, like, through your filter.

The biggest difference between when we started this thing, and that's the thing, LPN started 2017, but LPN came from cave comedy radio, which is basically, which was money from it, from an old corrupt business owner. But that was like, 2010, you know, like that, that was, like, I, yeah, started that way, way, way back in, like, 2010.

And I was actually talking to somebody about this on Friday, is that even in, like, 2012, 2013, we were telling people like, there's too many podcasts, like you're never going to get noticed, because there's already, there's too many podcasts, there's hundreds of them. Yeah.

Yeah. It's impossible. It's impossible. And that's the biggest difference between when we start, even 2017, 2016, and now, it's just the volume of podcasts, because now there are millions upon millions in there.

It is harder than ever to work with our heads down, like we used to. Yeah.

“To be honest, that is the hardest part, I think, of the current landscape is that used”

to really be, which is still mostly my philosophy, is that all innovation is born from,

fulfilled, so fully that you are, then just over the work, that was certainly my philosophy for, not getting forever. And that's in my life. But the problem now is that when everybody's on your dick, right, like, everybody's doing the same level of content and have different levels of support and have different systems,

so, like, then you just more, like, on something, we do struggle, I struggle with the idea of how do we make sure we're keeping our stuff different from everybody without me consuming everybody else's stuff, so it doesn't enter into my brain when I'm making my stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

“That's the hardest part, because that's why I had to stop listening to all comedy podcasts,”

because eventually, I understand Rob Williams more than ever in a way, because I don't really write, I don't write my material, I started to shock you, but I don't really write my comedic material, you don't write it out, you know, because the way you said it made it sound like you have a writer hidden somewhere. Oh, I got Morty, and a sapperstein is a genius, he came up with so many different ways

to say, come, I can love this guy, but no, I don't write my, like, when I come up with comedy bits, it's more like keywords and little phrases and stuff, but I, I don't write my stuff down, right? I don't write out jokes and Rob Williams was kind of in that way, in terms of I'm improvising all day, all night, that's what I do.

So on some level, if there are jokes floating around the back of my head that I have watched another comedian do, it is not out of literally, it's not out of evil, it's out of total desperation that I will literally just grab whatever's in the, in the fucking quiver and grow it out. So that's why I don't listen, other comedy shows.

So I have to figure out how to stay in my lane, which is, it's a constant balancing act.

I've never listened to a comedy podcast that I wasn't actively producing.

Well, you don't got to, well, you shouldn't. Yeah, no, no, no, I, I, I, I never, I never did, and it only recently started like actually listening to podcast podcasts just because I'm driving so much here in here in LA, but I've always taken the, the idea that it, how you kind of stay fresh is you, you take influences from other mediums, like, you know, you, you, when you, like, are making a story, or like,

like, for example, like on, on no dogs, like what we'll do is we'll, if we're, like, when we did our replacement series, we were watching the wire. And so we can't watch the wire and use that medium, this inspiration for like storytelling and how to, you know, tell a story with a whole bunch of different characters and a bunch of different things going on at once and then take inspiration from that or take inspiration

from movies or from music or anything like that. And when all these inspirations and all these influences that cross together, then you have something that's kind of new. Yeah, that's fucking, that's really nice. I am, I, you know, you guys know, I don't really listen to any podcasts.

I don't even really listen to our podcast. Uh, it's, it's not, you know, podcasts aren't for me, but I look, it's weird because

I came in here to like work with you guys on your thing and I always felt like when I joined

“my job was to support y'all as artists and make y'all shine the best way possible.”

Cause I come from the school of and this kind of happened by accident when I stopped wanting to be a cook for the rest of my life, I looked at not necessarily like the entertainment business, but I looked at comedy as a career. And so I do what I can to like be, have as many hats as possible in this comedy business. And that's why now I'm trying to do all these other weird things.

I'm doing stuff with musicians now, I'm trying to do this Disney thing now to just stay relevant and just keep, you know, keep my brain moving and doing as many things as I can. I always like to say, I'm in the comedy business. I'm not in the entertainment business.

I'm not trying to be a writer on a TV show, but I do want to be a comedian for the rest of my life. How do you feel about three years in? Three years into this? I love it.

Is I hope the job never ends?

You know, I feel like be three years in now, I mean, if something got forbid did happen, I have a great thing on my resume and I feel like I wouldn't be able to get a job somewhere else if I had to. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Like at the Big Fat Man Horhouse.

I always thought myself as being in the entertainment business because that was what all I've ever really wanted to do is just to be in, well, actually, all I ever really wanted to do is just radio. Just being on radio, like if I have my brothers, I'd be doing a drive time shift on FM radio station play my own music five days a week.

That's the fucking dream. That's the dream. But I'm still money. No, no, no. I would have to pay them.

Yeah.

“I mean, that's what I'd like to get back to like one of these days.”

But yeah, for me, like comedy was a total, like it was an accident getting in the comedy was a coincidence. Yeah, I was just applying for writing jobs and the onion happened to be hiring people

So crazy. The onion was like your first job in New York. Yeah. Yeah, it was working. And everyone's like life goal.

And you just fucking got it immediately. Well, it was because they were looking for a guy who knew how to do radio and I was the only person who applied to this writing internship who had radio experience. Amazing. Yeah.

So they brought me on. And yeah, that was 2006. And that's where I met some of the first people that got me into like the sort of comedy

“scene and that it was just the only thing that I knew how to do was radio and the only”

people in entertainment in New York that I knew were all comedy. So I just had to go in that direction. And that's just the direction that brought me to this place here.

Yeah, I always think like one thing I learned early on and the greatest perk to doing this

business and being in comedy is we always said it's a backstage pass to the world. And you know, everyone wants to meet everyone wants to show you their fucking weed farm. Everybody wants to show you like all the cool stuff they want to bring you backstage at the zoo. You know, like it's always like the coolest shit in the world.

And I think that I've seen things that I never thought I would see. I've been to war zones, I've been Africa, you know, it's just comedy has done a lot for me. And I'm never going to give up on it. It's pretty great.

It can be. Not like a logically, but it can't really be great. I would actually like to speak to the idea of someone talking about like how to not sell out. Because I will say the one thing that I'm going to tutor, I'm a two mom or hey, and say that

we have so far successfully navigated entirely selling out. And I think the reason why we've gotten to do that is because of you, because we had a mandate of a bunch of people listening to us that allowed us to make a bunch of very good decisions that kept keeps us above certain things, which is really nice.

And these are the lessons I'm going to tell you right now, which is always on your IP.

Never let any never sell it. Never sell your IP unless they're backing up the money truck, right? But you never sell that IP. You're holding on. You hold.

What? That's what you're in my IP. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Oh, it's much IP as possible.

“But the, I think the goal really is to, you have to have certain, fundamental, non-negotiables,”

which is we had to have creative control, no matter what, at all times. And all times, everything is under our every single choice we've made is our choice. Yeah. Our contractual business things that we have been forced to do, then, because of having to not sell out.

But that's the difference. Why don't we test, let's say, everything that we say is our choice. But everything we've had to do over the years, we've had to do some contractual out to get it things. Well, because then, I do, we love the story.

We love the story. We love the story. We love the story. We love the story. We love the story.

We love the story. Yeah. That's the part of it. Like, I think a lot of times people look upon us as a giant, like, it's funny. Because I'm one hand, I think some people view us as a giant, like corporate entertainment

monolith. And then I think sometimes I look at all of us and I'm like, we are barely holding on by our fucking fingernails. Yeah. We're three fucking morons.

We're just barely holding this together, that are just trying to keep every, like, the hardest part is knowing that you're stoned fat idiot and you're looking at an wonderful employee that's trying to have a child and you want to take care of that person. Yeah.

And @fuckin' is just like, you're like, oh, no. So when you start, those are, those are the things I would say, affect some of our decision-making in terms of the business choices that we have made, but creatively, that

“is the only thing that we can, that it's not the only thing we can control.”

But it is the main thing that we can control. And that's what we're going to do no matter what.

And we've always, the philosophy from the beginning is always, always, always been long-term

thinking. It's never, never give up the short-term for the long-term. This has always been a long game, from the very, very beginning. It's always been a long game. I'm a very patient and there's so many people who've made millions upon millions, upon

millions of dollars that I see, like, comedians on the road, just like, struggling to get 100 people in the audience so they can make a couple grand to just pay their fucking rent and it's wild. Yeah. And so, like, keeping the job is the most important thing.

Yeah. Keeping the business. And the job keeping the audience and keeping the respect of the audience. That's the key. So our jobs are going to make sure we don't disappoint.

So we are trying to not disappoint you. No. It's much as humanly fucking possible. It's not on the audience. But we also got to do what we love.

And I feel like that way to not disappoint the audience is to do what we love. If you only listen to the audience, that's when you get the newest Star Wars movies. You know, and like, because this is my fun opportunity to say, I love all of you. But the audience is completely incorrect. I love you.

And it's not, and it's not your fault. You don't know what you want. Our jobs are to show you what you want.

So sometimes you understand, we're doing it because we want to do it. That's how it's going to be. And you don't want it the other way. We're not going to sit here and do. We're not going to sit and be like, well, if we're having a part of houses or some fucking

or shadow or what you fucking year, everybody's wrong. I would amend that a little bit. It's not necessarily us showing them what they want. It's us showing them what we want and what we think is good and seeing if they agree. Exactly.

And that's really all we can do, because it's like disappointing the audience, like, yeah, I know certain choices. You don't think I'm angry? Yeah, you're definitely going to disappoint the audience. I would say it's more like the ideas, like, I don't want to let anybody down.

“Like, that's what I'm always thinking about.”

I just don't want to let anybody down. Neil Young can't make reactor. No one can make anything. Sure. I, every show I've led on the, on the, on last podcast has been something I've

been passionate about. Something I love. And so I feel like if I tried to work on something that I hated, it would be awful and you would be able to tell immediately. No, it'd be, it'd be the worst.

You'd sound bored. You wouldn't have that, like, the hoods, both people feel passion. They, they feel authenticity. It's a sixth sense that a lot of, not everyone has it, but most people do it. And I think our audience that absolutely has it.

Yeah. Here's a little production question. I, you know, I did was saying none, but this is interesting. Are there specific joke hook points? What do you mean?

Like, when Marcus works, like, when you're writing, like, the goal is to feed, you

know we always talk about feed us meat, like, how direct are the joke hair pit points?

Yeah, like, hook points. For me, that's, it's, uh, sort of a, a producer brain that I have working because there are certain things that it's like, I could see a joke coming from that. I don't know the joke is. I don't know what the bit is, but I could see, it's sort of that idea of hanging out

with your friends. And, and it's almost like, uh, we, I wouldn't call it a jubox, uh, but it's, you know, if you're ever, like, like, like, like, like, I wonder what my friend would say about that. I wonder what my, I mean, I wonder what they would think about that.

“And it's just, and, but the thing is about is that you have to know the strengths of”

the people that you're working with, you have to know what they're good at. So if I, you know, see an opportunity for a funny scenario, a funny back and forth that can happen between the two of you or between any, any of us, because it's the things we don't know how it's going to happen before it happens. And it's just setting it up for the possibility of it.

And if it doesn't, if nobody picks it up, that's totally, like, I move on. Uh, there have been certain times, like, I, I've, it said something, it's like, no one's going to, no one's going to come in on that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We're just going to move right back. Oh, that's how it is. That's not. Occasionally, you'll warn us, too.

That always helps me get my head in the right spot.

You know, because sometimes I don't want to get in your way, I don't want to get in Henry's way, you know, because, like, you know, I learned that in roundtable, is like, you sometimes, like, you know, there's so many people talking, sometimes you, if you've got a joke in your head, you got to let it go. Yeah.

I'll do what I can to try to find a way to like, bring it back, but not always, you know, it doesn't always work. So I, you know, you just got to let a lot of shit go, which always breaks your heart. Yeah, it does. But, um, but I do like when you're like, I need, uh, yeah, let me do some, uh, Lyndon

B. Johnson dick jokes. Yeah. That helps. Yeah, that, that, that's, I only ask that when I know it's going to be funny. Yeah.

When I know, like, I've got a good idea, and I, and I, like, and I know it's a good idea. Uh, because you, you know, you always know when this, like, oh, no, this is, this is going to be great. And people are going to like this.

Not to contradict what I just said, uh, a couple moments ago, but I also like an assignment. Yeah. It was much like, like, using, like, what I'm into is, as a big thing for a whole episode. But I also like what someone's like, do something on this.

Second, really busted open once I have a directive and would see what people want. And that also, like, the, the way that I do it also keeps the show, like, fun and fresh for me as, um, like, I'm almost an audience member. Yeah. Because I want to see what y'all are capable of.

I want to see what you come up with. And I'm excited every week, like, I wonder what they're going to come up with this. Uh, so if, yeah, it, it keeps me coming back, um, and, yeah, it's really fun, but you

“just, but that's the other thing, too, is that you have to be with very talented people,”

very funny people for that to work. Yeah. What do you think your job would be if we didn't do this? I mean, I mean, I mean, the restaurant business is the only other thing I'm qualified to do.

I don't have a degree. I haven't associates degree. I got a high school degree, but, you know, I'm, I'm pigeonholed into cooking your comedy. You know, that's the only thing I have any experience in.

So I would be in restaurant management, and I would probably be an alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I, I mean, I, you know, I always said my backup plans were, um, either history,

teacher, history professor, or, um, because then it would be great because then I'd have more than a fucking, uh, week to learn things, uh, I could, uh, and to really like know

it, dig a deep, you know, spend years with a subject, which is fucking incredible, um, or funeral director, uh, that was also another, um, really. Yeah. That's a hard job. Well, it was more, like, more, like, more tissue, like, more tissue area system.

Yeah.

“I think it's still, still be great at more tissue area system.”

I know a lot of cool people that are in the business, too. Yeah. I mean, McFarron, that, um, those moderation work for us here, uh, they, um, I, I helped them get from more tray science at school, back, you know, when I first moved to New York, and I found it fascinating.

It was great.

It's just the hours or crazy, you know, you've always, you know, you got to be called

in at any time. But I'll be, honestly, if, uh, things didn't work out with us, I probably would be a cog in Series X and somewhere. I always thought that, um, I'd be a good EMT, just because when you were a good EMT.

When, oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. Whenever someone, like, slices their hand open at work or whatever, I was always the guy fixing it and stuff like that immediately. You don't get back to work.

Natalie's like that. And I think it comes from her mom being a nurse, like, she is, like, not to be, she's just one of those. And it's like, but when I got hurt, she, like, snaps an action. Yeah.

You need to really jump. What about you? Obviously, um, back and borders. Oh, no, it's close. You know, like, I will say, yeah, I'm not a podcaster, but I still feel like I literally

don't know what my other functions would be. You have to be an entertainer. I don't know what my other functions would be as a human being. I was a terrible employee. I was a bad student.

Uh, I was very good at all the stuff, right?

I passed IB because I was good. I can talk my way pretty much at anything. That's IB. That's the it's a big, I got into a very power. It was a very, like, fancy educational program that I was in in high school.

Okay. So with the international baccalaureate. Uh-huh. So like, I did, like, I was like, obviously very good at improv. Because I just made shit up to my teachers.

And they passed me. And then I was like, but I had one of those, like, it was hard. Like, I don't know what I was doing because I had so many real teachers that said to me, you're not going to use this. Like, you know, they would literally tell me,

you're not going to be doing math or science. And it's like, now I understand, like, that's semi-insulting. But also, they were right. Because they're like, you have no end. You're like, not here.

You know what I'm like, huh? You know, like, like, wasn't there. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, when I would go back home and tell people, like,

yeah, you know, yeah, I moved to New York or LA and they got like, that makes sense.

Yeah, we always figured you didn't end up somewhere like that.

Yeah. So thanks for telling me I never belonged. Yeah. Yeah. We always thought you were a little queer.

That's what it was going for. Yeah. I wrote one time in high school because I was such a bad high school student as well. But I, like, you know, I did all the pepper alleys. I hosted all the stuff.

I was in drama. Yeah, you were like me. I was politically important. Yeah. I got up to school.

Yeah. You know, I was, I want a bunch of awards. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Whenever the school needed to make a speech in front of a bunch of other schools.

I was the guy they called. See? I didn't know how to read. Dude. It's so funny.

Dude. I was like the face of the class. I spoke in, like, all the graduation ceremonies. Yeah. I was one.

I was, number 664 out of 666 students in my class.

“I remember one time my English teacher who knew I was smart.”

And, but saw how little I have respect for school. She told my mom to come to class and see how I showed up to class. And that day I showed up worse than ever. I showed up notebooks. No pencils.

No shoes. God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

It's just so frustrating. You see, you fucking. Just the primate. I just, I bullshit and manipulated my way through all of high school. And then it would be invalidatorian.

Yeah. 12 people. Yeah. I was just 12 of us. Yeah.

Dude, it was right behind me. But yeah, definitely talked my way into that one. And then it just went on. Yeah. Went on from there.

Because I also was fired from so many jobs. Moved worst. Worst fucking employee. Very bad employee. Yeah.

“Honestly, I, at this point, maybe I'd be just, you know, one of those guys that just”

works the record store and plays in a band quite a bit. Just sort of, you know. Counting out the years. Yeah. It's not really accomplished.

It's not just going for it. Yeah. Where was that guy? The guy that we met, the future you. The old you.

We actually got the old in Grand Rapids. Yeah. Yeah. Captain Bizarre. The guy that ran Captain Bizarro's, who's just like, man.

You guys are fucking just so busy. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, it's because you are so not busy. You might be dead.

You might physically be dead.

Everything you selling the stores decades old. That's how little business you had. You was about to, like, close the store for an hour to go get a chicken par. I love it. I get it.

I get it. Man, we did it. No, but those are the people that keep our country fucking running. I love those people. I love them so much.

I'm not good. Main. Another Irish. I use your question. Best food city we've performed in.

Worst food city we've performed in. Worst Charlotte. Yeah. Best. I guess Dallas was pretty bad.

You know what I went to that soul food restaurant. That was pretty fucking great. You know what blew my mind? Food wise was when we did Rochester. A radio social.

Yes. Radio social. Radio social. Really put it out there for. Streamly good food.

They gave us was it duck legs. They gave us so much food. We couldn't even fucking deal with it. That place was fucking great. Oh, you know what was kind of the best meal of the whole tour.

Marcus misted. Unfortunately was a stiner ranch. Oh. That was a religious experience. That was.

I mean, well, we also like my buddies the GM there shout out Jason Bailey. But. But he like they were open and bottles of wine that like I don't even know. Like stuff that my palate shouldn't have been allowed to eat it. Yeah.

You know. You know.

It was like ill the next day because I never eat so much fat.

Yeah. It was. It was unbelievable. And they were like describing and they have like. They joked because that was like.

It's one of the most evil restaurants we could have gone. Two because it's like Greg Abbott's favorite restaurant. Yeah. You're surrounded by the worst of the world. Pure evil.

But. Wow. They eat good. Yeah. We had our own patio.

Yeah. It's pretty fucking great. Calamans and Oklahoma City. That was awesome. It was awesome.

Yeah. Because it tastes like steak. Like my. Oki Papa used to make. And I never thought I'd taste steak like that again after you died.

“Also remember that place where do we go to New York?”

The prime rib placed that we went to down in the basement. Yeah. Oh, my fucking God was that place called that place with fucking off. Can't remember.

Also you remember that meal that we met me in Carolina had in Denver.

That place that had all of the old meat. The old style meat. Old saw me. Yeah. It's all a bunch of weird meats.

And really fucking good. I love that kind of shit. Pump desert real bad. Mm. Real bad food.

Well, that is because of the. We already talked. Contact in the desert. That is by far the worst food I've had in any. Performance venue that I had.

Humble has really bad food. Humble was specific. But you don't expect them to have food. They think one place that we ate wasn't bad. That one place that we went to eat when we were in Palm Beach.

Oh, you mean over the other resort? Where we met the chef? We were Tommy Bahama. The Tommy Bahama. It was fine.

It was a listen. I don't know. I'm going to restaurants that are known for their shirt. Yeah. Can't go.

Do it. You're a big restaurant. And I love shirts. I love shirts. Did you get trust them?

You're right. The Charlotte is consistently. Every time we've gone to Charlotte is like this is the worst meal I've had all year. Yeah. Charlotte, I had a pretty good sandwich.

Literally. So I can't really say it. I do believe that it was a pretty good sandwich.

“Do you remember that sandwich in her banner?”

Ooh. Man. That was fucking good. That was special. We stopped at a place that made its own pork cateau.

Um. Randomly. And that's just ed sandwich sense. This is fat man. I find sandwich in anytime.

True. Yeah. And I will also admit every time we go to London the meat pies that I have there. I'm the happiest boy in the world. I learned it at great food.

I don't know what everyone's talking about in all my life. It's changed. It's my favorite because it's got my favorite things in the world. Meat pies and Indian food. Yeah.

And that's London. It is four Charles. Prim rib. Was the name of the place we went to in New York. Fort Charles.

Four. Four. Four Charles. Literally one of the best pieces of meat I've ever had. It's so funny.

Because they like the show. They're fans of the show. Usually sometimes like, oh, we'll take care of you coming. Like, we'll let you have a reservation. Yeah.

Thank you. Thank you. They gave us a dessert at the end. So actually ask you. Oh, and one more thing.

The best Indian food meal I've had on the road was in Bristol. I had chicken vindalou there. It was the hottest thing I've ever eaten in my life. I was down for two days. Yeah.

I remember that. It was fuck. It was incredible. I did. But I did not regret it.

It was one of those times when the heat was absolutely worth the pain. That I went through over the next two days. One of the single weirdest things I've ever eaten was in Manchester. Where accidentally I was looking up all these things.

“I was looking up kind of like, oh, what's the best in curry row?”

What's the best place to go? So it was like, oh, there's this new fusion place. It's Indian Italian. And I got it was Indian chicken parmesan. And it was American cheese on a fried piece of chicken with the

caramel sauce over it. And it tasted like cartoon throw up. But not that. You don't mean he didn't be bad. It just was the weirdest single combination of flavors I've ever had. And when UK gets into the fusion world,

Because I went to a couple other fusion places in UK. And that's not really. I think that the UK, what I found, my favorite kinds of foods in the area are the stuff that's right down the pipe. And we're like, we're a pie shop.

We do pies. Yep. We're steakhouse. We do steaks.

“That's what my father always taught me is like, if you go to a place”

and it's Jimmy's steaks, don't get the shrimp. Do you not be a difficult person? They're reason why they call the other things. They barely sell those other items. Someone actually asks your specifically.

Why British food markets? It's in my DNA. Yeah. I think it really is because I didn't actually didn't. No, because yeah, yeah, I've said it many times.

Yeah, I did the 23 in me. And it's 86% British. Yeah, you have Bobby face. Yeah. Hey, no, it's I'm like British through and through.

And I actually didn't know that. I just went to England.

And every, when we went England for the first time,

it was the first time I'd ever left America. It was, it was a 2016 October, 2016, I believe. It was in the middle of Brexit right before the election of Trump. But we were there. And everything that I ate was the most delicious thing I've ever had.

And I just loved it. There was something about it. I had an iron brew for the first time. Like this is the most delicious soda I've ever had. I had a meat pies.

Like why are not all meats taken high? I had fish and chips. There's like why don't we do this? Constantly wise. This is not everywhere all the time.

“This is why did this great culinary tradition not carry through?”

Because we kicked him out of our fucking kitchen for a goddamn reason. Woo, woo, woo. Someone else asked here. What would your last meals be? Last meal?

Yeah. You guys had to choose what your last meal was. Oh, you can eat for a crawfish boil. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm honestly, probably have a big old chunk of Wagyu. Is this for when I'm being executed? Sure. If I'm being executed, I want a big old pile of Wagyu. I fucking have so much runny ass diarrhea that they have to scrape it off.

Once I'm done caked on fucking being electrofied to death. Hmm. That's tough one. Because I would, I had, it's between two things. I would either go with a real nice lamb in delu or maybe a lamb broken Josh.

You like lamb? I love lamb. Or a steak and alpine. Like that's a big steak and alpine. I think the steak and alpine because the, the rogan Josh.

Um, might mess with my tummy a little bit. Okay. And I want to be comfortable when I die. I want to feel like nice and full and a big nice steak and alpine. Uh, an iron brew and some crispy chips.

Okay. I like that. Like, I was, I have prunk cocktail chips, I'd say. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. I just want all the fucking crawfish and shrimp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're a giant. What are we going to go to New Orleans? How we've not done New Orleans since I've been a part of the show? Yeah. Yeah.

I do really kind of feel like, and also I have found with a, you know, transparency. And when we don't come to a place because we don't sell a lot of tickets there. So normally the reason why we didn't come to Vegas. We kind of crack Vegas with side stories, which we're going to try again. Yeah.

We've got to play to the locals. New Orleans.

We can always kind of struggle to sell tickets because why the living.

Fuck. Would you see a live podcast in New Orleans? Yeah. Go anywhere else. Go see jazz.

Go to them. Be in the city. We know the streets. Yeah. Yeah.

Just what literally walking the streets of New Orleans is more entertaining than I'll ever be in my life. Yeah. I didn't get New Orleans until I went without doing work. Yes. We went for your birthday.

Because every time I like I had this kind of ideas like, I don't really like New Orleans that much. And the reason why I didn't like is because every time I was going. I was going to hotel room. I was in this city of fun and enjoy and debauchery. And I had to fucking work the entire time.

Yeah. It's horrible to be in a place. It's horrible to be in New York and New Orleans and have to work the entire time. I feel the same way about Miami. I really want.

What Miami is?

Miami to be a great town for comedy and it's just never will be.

Nobody likes doing comedy. Everyone's naked in the street. Why would you fucking go inside? Unfortunately, I will have to say right now, like we did Miami once and it is never going to happen again. No, whatever.

We'll do Florida. We're going to do Florida. No, we're going to do Florida. Florida. Yes.

“But Miami, that was, remember that was the show where I was chugging a suit of Fed on our chugging day quail on stage.”

Yeah. And I also remember that was the show too. That was like the tour where every show was solely sold out. But Miami. Yeah.

It was Miami and Vegas. Yeah. And Miami Vegas and Atlantic City. Oh, yeah. Those were Atlantic City.

I look like never go to Atlantic City again. We won't. No, we won't.

We did a seasers and it was half empty.

So it's like those. I'm like Jersey. But I don't want to do Atlantic City.

“So I'm going to erase my two jersey too.”

So what am I try it? I would love that man. We need to do more Jersey. Jersey is one of the most densely populated states in America. I don't know why we don't go there.

Oh, because we go to New York. Yeah, fuck that. I have one question. Just because I want to manifest this so badly. If we could get a pinball machine for the studio.

Which franchise would it be based on? We'd get the Lord of the Rings pinball machine. The one that was put out a few years ago. The one that where you can actually go through every single level. I've actually beaten it.

The only pinball machine I've ever beaten. And I actually was talking carefully about this. Not two weeks ago. I know don't get Natalie started to. She wants a pinball machine.

It's like our house cannot become a fucking fud rockers. Yeah. I put it in holding studio. Our Holden's room up. He doesn't need any more distractions.

Yeah, he'll use it. It'll be annoying. Yeah. I would like. I think I've seen this once.

Maybe many years ago.

“This probably like one or two of them that exist.”

But adventures of Ford Fairling. Pinball machine. That's in Wonderland. I've seen it when I was a kid. No, it's been.

That's my white whale. That's amazing. Yeah. All right. What are your day-to-day work days like?

I work Sunday to Thursday because it is. Yeah, because we recorded on Thursday. You used to work Monday to Friday.

But I was always used to some Friday after.

You know, the crunch that it takes to get the show. Every day out every week. So yeah, it ends on Thursday. Yeah, Sunday and yeah, I work up like half the time on no words. It's like a little less than half on no dogs.

And then the rest on last podcast. Yeah. It's just, you know, doing research, research. And then Wednesday is writing the script. The first draft of the script.

Thursday morning. I wake up. I write the second draft of the script immediately. Do the third draft. Like do a third draft.

Just like a read through at the end. Yeah. So it's like. Yeah. And then we go straight in and record.

That's every single week. Yeah, Mondays is a lot of business for me. Mondays are due correspondents. So try to get some done my house. We've been recording a lot of extra shows recently.

So a lot of that'll go in a Monday. Yeah. Tuesday's side's story stream. We prep for side stories, record. Do all the kind of stuff we kind of need to do.

Either shoot promos. Do all kind of stuff during the day on Tuesday. Then we do the stream. Wednesdays is become. You know, we've been doing a lot of movie stories.

My mate that used to be my main big old get everything ready for last podcast day, which I normally still do. But I tried to sprinkle it throughout the week. And then Thursday, clear out to do last podcast. And then Friday, I go to therapy.

And then everything else it falls into it. Right there. Yeah.

I, I look at life right now as like there's always something to do.

Yes. Never a moment when I'm like truly, truly relaxed. I mean, I'm looking forward to our vacation. That's coming up. But the, you know, it's always something to do.

And especially now that I've been doing my own standup. You know, designs are like, you know, that's a lot harder to sell tickets to. When it's not the big show, obviously. And so I got to do a lot of promotion. I got to do social media, which I fucking hate.

Yes. And then then a lot of it is, you know, the road. A lot of it's fucking sitting in airports. Yeah. And then I try to have a life.

And I don't, I'm not the same as you guys. You guys work all night sometimes. You're going to go home. Like you're always studying and shit like that. I have to turn off.

Oh yeah. I turn off too. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I think I need to more than both of you.

I don't know why. But like, because I feel like my hobbies are more evil than yours. That's what it is. You actually, this is your hobby also. Yes.

You're ready and sconst in a lot of the topics already. Yeah. And usually I will like turn off at night. It's just, there are certain times like when a subject get, when I fall in love with the subject for a brief period of time. Yeah.

That's when it'll be, you know, I'm all day all night. Like I'm reading and watching and absorbing. And because it's like, I want, there's some of my brain switches on. It says, you have to understand this.

“Like you have to try as hard as you can to understand everything you can about this.”

And that, and that's fun and relaxing for me. But most of the time I do, I switch off at around like six when I feed the dogs. Yeah. Traveling is the hardest, but it's also my favorite. And so it's a weird catch 22.

I love being other places. I hate the process of traveling. Yes. Yeah. So it's just been a lot of that lately.

And I just, you know, music serves this all. Yeah. And my next switch, where will be where will the world be in 20 years? I mean, either gone or thriving. Yeah.

Yeah.

Actually, I'm going to, I'll split the difference.

Decaying. Decaying? Yeah. I have no idea. I don't look good.

I don't know. Yeah. It's going to be a lot more horrible weather events. But I don't know. Maybe we'll figure something out to, to turn shit around.

I have no idea. But it doesn't seem like we're turning things around. I just watched Total Recall and Robo Cup in one day. And I'm not, I don't have a positive view on life at all. Yeah.

That's way more realistic than anything else. I really feel like the way humans work is there has been. Technically there has been way worse periods of time than now. We are in a long time. I used to say the 60s were worse, but we're right in it.

We are in the least violent period of humanity ever. That's true. So we are in a, there is a way forward.

“So that's how I, I think because of that fact, there's a way forward.”

I think because a lot of what we're dealing with is esoteric mix with things that actually need We need help on. And if we did have one pro social, Trump-like figure that went into wanted to go in and become like a new FDR style person. I think could very well happen considering the rise of the democratic social as party.

And how much that's kind of gaining some traction. And the idea that if there was one giant disruptor person, that's really all American, on board. That's how America kind of works in a way for us. We can kind of get back on the right track.

If we have one guy that Robo, I'm some sarin sane man. We have one person that can come in and almost dictatorial style fashion and set everything back right and fix it and go and put all the EPA stuff back in. All this kind of stuff. And then I just think that humankind is almost cursed with an adaptability.

Yeah. And I think that we will be surprised how much we will live and thrive through. And that it actually takes quite a bit to destroy us. I know, but I'm looking at it man. I'm watching everyone get dumber.

I'm watching everyone on my friends get no everybody's, everybody's real. You are correct. We are at a society at a low stock because I do believe everybody is dumber and anger than they've ever been. I have to remember shit.

But I also think that we're going to see. There is going to be pendulum.

There are always pendulum swings.

Yeah. And then what?

“So I think we're already seeing the younger generation.”

The younger generation is ready to crucify Sam Altman. The younger generations understand what's going on. Zoomers are going to have to hit that wall. You're all going to hit the same wall that we all hit. Everybody has a big ol' fucking gigantic awakening when you hit 40 years old.

Sorry. Zoomers unfortunately have a really hard road ahead of them. You're screaming towards a lot of problems. But I do think that it's, again, it's social. I think the big things are going to come better going to destroy a lot of stuff

or weather. I think the weather is the thing that is going to really fuck some shit up. Yeah. That to me is what makes me not so optimistic about the next 20, 50 years. Because we're way past the point of doing anything.

Like we passed the point like years ago. So we're way past the point of doing anything about it. It's just something I have to not think about. You can't. Because if you start thinking about it, it's the existential terror of all of it.

Because it's things that we are in the least violent, like on a macro level. Like yeah, personally we're not killing each other anymore. We're not shooting each other. You know, it's not as violent as it was. But the problems that we have ahead of us are existential.

And the more AI centers take our water, take our land. And they're going to cause us all to dive dehydration and stupidity. And stupidity. But I'm going to think you'd be surprised. I think we're going to be surprised at.

We're just not going to die. Right. Now things are all going to happen. And humans are still going to be alive. You're going to live the last 20 years of your life in a fucking hospital.

But that's not necessarily true. I do. It's not even. I actually view it. It's not really optimism.

I think it's a part of the human. It's how we work society.

“I think that we're going to survive in anything.”

I think our zoomers are going to hit a wall or society is going to hit walls. So we're going to. There will be a point when the environment. We're going to have to lose a city. And then everyone's going to be like, Oh, we need to change everything.

Yeah, well, those Miami. I think that is what's going to happen. I think that is what's going to happen.

Honestly, we'll lose those New Orleans first.

But we're going to lose a city. That is what's going to happen. And that's going to everyone's going to be like, Oh, wow. This is actually real. This is in fact.

This isn't. And I think that the more esoteric things become real. We will then be. We'll be interesting to see how we then respond because I think then there will be big changes.

A lot of the damage will have been done.

Yeah, but you'll be surprised how we can continue to live. Yeah, and that it is very possible. Then if we almost in an accelerationist way in my mind. If this is what we're doing, let's fucking get to that fucking burnout point already then. If you, let's see what you do then.

Let's see they're in control right now. The bad guys are completely in charge. Yeah. And we are seeing how they run things. So if you like it, you can go vote for more of it.

If you want. Yeah. Or you can look and realize that we are. We're not drowning. We're suffocating.

The world will be there long after human beings. So the earth is great when nowhere there is fine.

No matter how much we fucked it up, we'll die off in a million years ago by it.

And it'll fucking heal and everything will be fine. You know, but I do think, I had an existential crisis the other day. Just thinking about all of the garbage I've created personally. Yeah, think about that. And just like I've made.

Think about that garbage that would fill up like 10 of these buildings. At least I think that we're minimum.

“I think that once a week it really fucks with me. Now that I'm 40 and I just keep taking these giant bags out.”

And every week and I'm just like, I've made a lot of this. Yeah. You know, and like, and I know what I tried to keep it conservative. And I know what I've made is insane. So the amount of trash that's on this world is terrifying to me.

Well, why we had to build a giant nuclear reactor on moon with we can burn all the trash. Yeah. What I actually don't think it's a bad idea. What I hope is that we are going towards a sort of Star Trek storyline.

Because you know, in the Star Trek storyline, you know,

this is around the time in the Star Trek history that shit just completely falls apart. Yeah. That starts falling apart. I think like World War III happens in 2026 in the Star Trek universe. Like, and we're past the bell rights and all that.

Because this is around the time that American society specifically starts just completely falling apart. There's a world war. There's a nuclear war. And then, you know, a humanity sort of rises from the ashes. Again, when, you know, warp is created and so and so forth.

But that's, but I also notice, I look at Star Trek. Because, you know, Star Trek, the technology is so simple. You know, it's like these pads and stuff. These are just words. But it's just pads and words.

And, you know, there's not a lot of surveillance. Is it? I'm watching it now and I'm thinking, like, we are starting to see how harmful having a fucking entertainment box in our pocket everywhere we go. This is like dopamine box. How harmful it is, how horrible it is.

And I could see a future where we have to say, like, we can't have this. Like, we can't have these things anymore because it's just humanity. Can't, we will entertain ourselves to death. And if you can get every point smart, you don't no longer need to have the phone anymore. And I feel like that's a part of what that is going to happen.

I do believe the, my, I do believe we're going to head into a form of highly technological, light world. Oh, very much. There's going to be, like, a mixture of the two where people themselves will not be necessarily engaging with technology 24/7.

But, but in technology will be around them that will be available that they can use that has all of these capabilities. Like, why would you need a phone if technically you can send an email from a refrigerator? Yeah. You know what I was just thinking?

You know what it is where we're at right now.

“Remember that old joke, if I could suck my own dick, I'd never leave the house.”

Yeah. That's what humanity's doing right now. Right now. We're all sucking our own dick constantly. And that's why nothing feels good and everything's kind of like vaguely unsatisfying.

Yeah. We're in the novelty zone. And I think with the novelty zone is going to, it brings about a lot of stuff. I, again, it's not optimism. I feel like we're just like chained to our fate of survival.

And there's really no, we're gonna, that's the issue is that we're not going to die. The issue is that we're going to live. And then we have to keep going. And so that's the, that's going to be. And then it's going to, we have to take it from there.

I guess we could, I mean, we're pretty close here. Do one more. Two more. That's just how flat it's Henry's ass really. I actually have to meet there now.

But I have to stop it because I was doing squats. We had some really, really awesome guests on the show. The past couple of years. Who's like your dream guests on the podcast? Dead or a lot.

Matt, you know, my dream guest used to be Robert Englick. And now we hit it. So now I got to think of a new one. Give me a second. You guys go first.

Dead or a live. Dead or a live. Elrun Hubbard is the only person in all of last podcast. All of the people that we've covered,

“that I still honestly think would be the funnest guy.”

Like I think that Elrun, if you were like unlike all the other ones, I think Elster Crowley would have been a bore.

All these other kind of things.

“I think Elrun would have been hilarious.”

Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Manson. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And Matt talked to him. Dude, Matt brought like interviewing Manson. It's like writing a bowl. Like, it would be like the interview equivalent of writing a bowl.

Like, how come? He seems like a conscious little Manson pops through. Yeah. And those interviews. Like, if you could find like the angle and find the way for him to try it.

Like, like if you make him feel safe and make him feel like you can be like vulnerable with you. It's that's interviewing Manson. Yeah, it's writing the bowl of interviews. And if you could get it.

If you could get him to get into like specifics and keep him from going off into philosophy and keep him from going off into anything that's like way out out there. Where he's just talking like, "I'm just a man who's being a man." You know, I'm a martyr. You know, like if you get him to talk specifics,

then you have something great because he isn't a very entertaining person.

Yeah. And I just love to it. I would have loved to have looked in the Manson's eyes. Maybe Oppenheimer. Weird.

Oppenheimer. Because of his regrets. Yeah. Stuff like that. And he's just fucking who knows what that man really knew.

Like the wealth of knowledge that was just inside of his fucking head. Not demerino? I've talked to demerino. Oh, wow. I don't want to really, guys.

Now, I'm not trying to drop it. What? And when did you talk to demerino? When I was a child. Oh, let's talk to demerino.

It's been many years. Did he sign your ice at honors? Yeah. He signed a piece of loose leaf paper I had. Wow.

I need to make it a ring. No, no, no, no, no, no. I had that same experience when I was 14 with Rob Zombie. Yeah. I was visiting my aunt here in Los Angeles.

And we were at Universal Studios. And he was there planning that year's Halloween horror nights. And we passed by him.

“And I just said, I think I was at the time white zombie.”

It was my favorite thing. Yeah, yeah. I think that was Rob Zombie. And my aunt was like, go fucking chase him down. And so I ran back and chased.

Does it? Mr. Zombie. Mr. Zombie. Oh, it was a great thing. It was a great thing.

It was a call. Yeah, and he was getting into a limo. And I was like, can I have your autograph? And he's like, yeah. And it was like, I don't have any paper.

And he goes, park an antenna. Go to the park and attend it. And so like I sat and waited for me at his limo while I ran to the parking attendance. Like, sure, can I have a piece of paper and a pen?

And he gave it to me. I ran back and he sounded like, you know, Rob Zombie. You go kid. That's all that sweet. He was he was extraordinarily sweet to a 14 year old fan.

That would have been in 97 or something like that. You know, I'd want to talk to, but it wouldn't be good for the show. Just like, for my own personal. I'd love to like sit down and have a nice, long, like dinner with Stephen Vansant.

That's my boy. Yeah. That would be fun. That's my boy. I fucking love him.

“I think that would be nothing would make me happy.”

Oh, if it had nothing to do with the show, I think the person I would want to just sit and have a conversation with

would be, I'm trying to like, first things in my mind,

like, is a somebody like, William Friedkin. Oh, man. Can you freaking be so much fun? I'm in the middle of the William Fried,

I just finished the William Friedkin chapter in Easy Riders and Raging Bull. Yeah. God, what a dick. Yeah. He's funny.

No, he's very funny, but the holy shit. Fascinating man. Especially now we're going to follow in Paul Verhoven, Paul Verhoven. Paul Verhoven's completely insane. I love how fucking insane he is.

I love him so much. And I can turn anything. Is there anything else here? What's your favorite snack? Favorite snack?

Yeah. Tell me. Just like sliced turkey. Just to hand it back. Yeah.

Yeah. Cherries. Oh, wow. I just sit and eat, like, Cherries season is wonderful for man. It's only half a year, but I'll just sit and eat.

Cherries. Cherries. Yeah. I spit the pits out. I actually get a high ball glass.

Yeah. And I put the stems in the pickle. Yeah. That's good for you. That's right.

Cherries are great. Oh, also peeling a shrimp. I mean, if I could eat peel and shrimp shrimp all day, man, I wouldn't stop dude. I'll be pink. Wait there.

What the fuck are we going to go now? You are. My favorite snack is hard boiled eggs. I'm not even joking. I eat.

We'll talk about it. You're going to see it on this week's side stories, but yeah, I eat. I eat a lot of hard boiled eggs. Oh, yeah. This has been nice, guys.

What is it with you and Carolina? There's these things that the two of you share. I love it. You're both hard boiled eggs. This morning, she had four hard boiled eggs for breakfast.

That's what I eat. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Explains my eggs. Eggs.

Eggs. I was just a jacquie.

It would have been so good in that part.

Yeah. When I played Flamingo's jacquie, really. She didn't really appreciate it when we were watching it together. And I was explaining it to Jeff being like, "This is who jacquies supposed to really be." Yes.

You were on your own. She's supposed to be eating a mask. Yeah. Yeah.

“Do you think she's supposed to be eating a mask or specifically the egg later?”

The egg later. Yeah. He's ruining that part. Yeah. So hell's sake.

And this has been wonderful.

And we love your curiosity. Yeah. How again. Thank you so much for listening and for being cool. Yeah.

Hell, little Stephen. I love your buddy. Love a little Stephen. I think a new teeth look great. Yeah.

The old teeth were fine with the new ones. Wow. Of course the lean. I would love to eat with your mask. I would love to use his teeth as plates.

Yeah.

“Do you think it's a little Steve for giving Lini Kay a DJ job?”

Because I love Lini Kay's show onville Stevens Underground Garage. I don't know if he hires anybody there anymore. I don't know. I love Lini Kay. It's coming up.

We have the electric proof. He's 19. 1968. On the sleeve. I don't think that's too much to dream last night.

Let's go. You know, at least that's a good song. I hate went underground garage. What a cold place. Nothing but rolling stones in the beetles.

It's like, yeah, it's not underground.

“That's why you got to listen to Lini Kay show.”

It's the night time show. Yeah, he actually picks the songs probably. Yeah. Yeah, Lini Kay.

Oh, man, I used to always see him with the record fairs and record stores in New York.

But I never got the, I never had the, the hoods, but it go up and say hi. Ah. Yeah, well, you know, you don't want to meet musicians most of the time. I saw a little Stephen once and I was actually listening to a little Stephen's Underground Garage. Well, I saw him walking his dog and I didn't say hi and it haunts me to this day.

It should. Yeah. I'll have to find him. Yeah, I'll see what I could do. Bye, little Stephen.

See you later on. You cool cats.