How can a LOVING God send people to HELL!? | Live Free with Josh Howerton - Free Transcript | Live Free with Josh Howerton

People don't have any problem, saying that people convicted of a crime should...

but they freak out when you talk about somebody this guilty of a sin going to help.

This is just this man.

“Religion without repentance is dangerous again, literally cost you your eternity.”

Satan wants to like enness the tysus to the reality of hell, so that we will no longer have an urgency of evangelism to tell people about Jesus. Well, hey, live free nation. Before we jump into the episode, this podcast is recorded right here at Late Point Church in Dallas, Texas. But the live free nation is spread all over the country and all around the world.

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How are you? Good, good, good. Okay, welcome back to Ms. Carles Arazone. I'm here with Pastor Josh Howardton and Pastor Paul Cuttingham. Coming to you from Late Point Church in Dallas, Texas and today, things will get heated.

Oh, I see what he did. Great job. We're going to be talking about misconceptions about health. What about the Catholic belief and purgatory whoops? What are the, what's Abraham's bosom and Hades that the New Testament refers to that are different places in heaven and hell?

But which by the way, they are. Yes. I want to know more about that.

Do people who never hear the gospel go to hell?

And how Josh wants to leverage this podcast to flip an election. Pastor Josh, what is going on? We're going to happily trump clip. Yeah, we're going to.

“That's what we were laughing about when the episode started.”

This has no educational value whatsoever. It does have humor value. I'm playing this. So we're. This is an actual clip today.

All right. So when I'm getting ready to play, they didn't know I was going to do this. This is the Japanese Prime Minister in the Oval Office. With the president of the United States. And this exchange happens.

I can't. But one question. Why didn't you tell your allies in your imagination and Japan about the war before attacking you and so? So he's going to hang out. You guys surprised us.

We're striking Iran. All right. Now wait. He's like, why does he do that? You should be in Japan and you guys were allies.

No, I'd say. We are very confused about. We're jumping to see, well, one thing. You don't want to signal tearing up.

“You know, when we go in, we went in very hard.”

And we didn't tell anybody about it. Because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Okay.

My grandfather, Hemingway, who's 96? He's been waiting 70 years for that joke. I'll come on. I'll listen. I'll care who you are on this funny.

That's pretty funny. That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. What were we talking about?

We were talking about health. Yes. And speaking of health. No, full of an election. That's right.

That's right. Okay. Okay. For real, we're going to do this. We're going to embark on a journey on live free.

So here's what we're going to do.

This stupid little podcast has large enough listenership. I'm starting to realize like we could actually. We could leverage live free nation is a real deal. So here's what's happened. When you pull up that.

When you pull up that Texas midterm election. Where this stands right now. So we've hit this like twice in the podcast. James Saloreco. synagogue of Satan.

Guys like a literal actual bibliophied heretic. Like actual heretic. That is democratic candidate running in Texas right now. Check this out. In Texas.

Let me say one more time. Pastor dramatic effect in Texas. James Saloreco. God is non binary. There are six genders.

You know, with the mask on his face. Doing the whole. My administration has committed to not eating meat. Because it's bad for the environment. That that guy is currently right now.

Let me pause. This is serious. This is serious. Is currently leading. Leading.

In polling leading up to the midterms. In Texas. Over both of the potential. Conservative candidates. So you're talking about it.

Do this like radical transgender ideology. Socialism.

Why all the things like he's just he's.

Is it as an actual heretic. So here's the deal. Some people.

“This may not be some people's cup of tea.”

We love you. And we and we don't care. So what I would say is, I just want to remind us why we're going to do this. I'm going to tell what we're going to do. You guys.

You guys actually don't think no all of this right now. Here's the deal. I'm going to keep saying this. People like Hey Josh. You know, stay out of politics.

No. Because all we're doing is taking the Bible and applying it to every area of our lives. There is not one square inch of the universe over which Christ does not stand and cry. Mine. Okay.

So the deal is. When you remind us, live free nation. If godly people don't step into this arena, then godless people will. Right now 40 million, I'm a posse and just say the 40 million Bible believing Christians. Don't vote in presidential elections.

Let me just pause and just say, we had a presidential election a few years ago. There was decided by less than one million votes. And 40 million Bible believing Christians sat out that election. A tiny fraction even of that vote in midterm elections. So here's the deal.

Satan doesn't stay out of politics. So team Jesus should not. We are commanded to be the salt of the, not the salt of the church.

“The salt of the earth is what we're supposed to do.”

So here's what we're going to do.

We're going to step into this and literally we're going to make this little theme. We won't. It's not going to dominate the podcast. That's not what to do. But I want to leverage.

And we're going to do that. And we're going to do that. And we're going to do that. And we're going to do that. And we're going to do that.

And we're going to do that. And we're going to accomplish the Great Commission. And again, it's like super awkward and uncomfortable. It's kind of thing like people don't like it when pass or say it. It's just a reality everywhere that progressive policies advance in cities and states, those

are the places with the fewest churches. It becomes very, very hard for churches to get bill and grow and advance in those regions. Nothing. Obviously, nothing's outside of the power of God. I'm just saying, from a human perspective, it gets really difficult.

So just as a dad, I'll be honest, here's what I'm unwilling to do.

I'm unwilling for my kids to have to live in a much harder world where it's hard to be a Christian where it's, you know, where it's much harder to be a Christian.

“And then then look back and go, why did my dad try to do something about it?”

I'm just not, I'm not going to do that. And I'm not going to do it for the sake of future. So here's what we're doing, man. Live free nation. We're going to do this.

We're going to, we're going to try to flip away. We're going to try to flip away. We're going to try to flip away. Good. But now it's not up yet. I got a guy a buddy of mine that's working on building a,

it's going to be a very, very simple website where somebody can text. I think we're going to have it where they text either vote or salt. Stay tuned to a number. It will send anybody you send that to to a website. We're all somebody's got to do is they're going to put in their home address.

And it will automatically spit out to them voting locations and dates. That's it. And then we're just going to try to make that thing go viral. And then especially pastors, because pastors a lot of times, like, dude, I don't know how to do this without like split my church and feeling really awkward.

It's actually really easy. You don't even need to tell your people who to vote for, right there. Honestly, you just need to get them to vote and spirit feel Christians will generally do the right thing. Yes. So on to some man, we're just, let's see what we can do.

Live free nation. Let's see if we can flip an election. Wow. Okay. So stay tuned.

Oh, but they were good.

And then you go to Disney.

Wait, wait. We were at university. We were at university. Okay. We were at university.

But yeah, but then I said, it's okay. It's okay. Oh, I didn't say that. Okay. Well, how was university?

I was at university. Okay. We're a universal people, man. It's not universalism. But we're going to talk about this.

That's right. That's right. We're going to head. How many do we had a great time? The best.

The chase.

“The best time is at the end of every day.”

I would do this thing where it's like, okay, girls. You can torture to head now. And I would ride any ride. They wanted. So then, you know, it's like every ride that gets you soaked.

Dead to the front. You got to the front. Yeah.

I'm walking around the park.

You know, totally soaked. But Eliana is whatever goes fast, like she's, she does that. The doomed drop thing. It just takes you up. Drops you.

She loves that stuff. You're like that stuff. I hate it. So she pulled me on the, the biggest coaster. They got her Velocicoster in the Hulk.

And she had me whipping all over the place. And we're on 42. Man, I still feel that now. Sir, back. Okay.

No. They did. It was awesome, man. That's amazing. It was great.

That was great. Thank you. Thank you for watching. Yeah. Great.

Hey, Easter is coming up in a couple of weeks. Here at Lake Point to make the April 3rd to 5th. Eight campuses here in the DFW area. Big celebration, a rest section of Jesus. Pastor Josh.

Would you invite our liberation to come hang out? You crazy. If you don't come. So if you were ever going to come to an in person service. Come at Easter.

You're going to get. It's going to be, you know, 200 proof. Jesus and gospel. We're going to worship our faces off. It's going to be a big, big, big thanks celebration.

“And honestly, man, if you're like not a church dude yet.”

Like, you know, man, just dip it in the water. Yeah. It's going to get on you. Yeah. And this is your spot, man.

This is where you want to be. It's like these are like our super bowl of like my favorite services of the year. And so if you're part of the liberation and you come visit us in person. Please come say hi. Find us at our first time.

Guess 10. We got a free march for you. Probably tons of those. But we have people visiting from like literally outside of the US. Oh, stupid.

Yeah. Do you got this? We'll do this real quick. And then we're going to talk about L. That's right.

So you're going to. Okay. So this is last week. So do this couple grabbed me in the lobby this week. They flew in from Switzerland.

What? Well, they're listening. A delivery of our Switzerland.

So here's what started to happen, dude.

You know, as the, you know, first of all, shout out, Lit Free Nation. This podcast, I think we're over a million downloads at this point. So what's starting to happen now is people in these, you know, are more godless city states regions.

Like, dude, it brought tears, my eyes. This family, they were telling, they were explaining to me, Hey, we, we listen while our family live free every week. So shout out to y'all to David and Jan on her name's Jan. I like that.

And they were like, hey, man, man, we listen to you. And it were Christians in a country. It's not very Christian. They're like, it helps us remember. We're not crazy.

Wow. And it puts courage in them. Yep. So hit that who's the other one? We got two of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jordan came in from Hawaii.

Why not out? Lit Free Nation Hawaii flew into worship with us. We got another one. This one, they were from British Columbia. They said the same thing.

They were like, hey, man, Canada's going nuts right now. British Columbia area and same thing. It's like, man, listen to you. It helps us remember. We don't, we're not crazy.

Kind of think. This was my favorite one. So this dude, shout out, Stan. Let me get shout out, Stan. Stan flew in from from Canada,

Christian to this businessman owns a big old ranch up there. He started four businesses. Christian dude in Canada lives in the, like the wilderness of Canada on a 500 acre ranch of our member right. This guy, Stan, he starts listening to some of our stuff online. And he converts, this is legit, man.

He shall be a picture. He converts his barn into a video venue. Little hundred seat worship thing. Because there's not like a good Bible preaching church close by. He wants to understand correctly.

And he starts a house church with, with some of our online content. So they'll play our stuff. This dude just starts a little pop up. Lake Point campus in Canada. Let's go.

And you know, Lake Point Canada. Lake Point Canada. And he's playing our stuff. Listen to delivery. And this guy, they had, they baptized four people last week at his little ranch house church.

And then when we did the whole marriage thing, where it's like, hey, if you're checking up and you're acting like you're in a covenant,

“when you're not even coming yet, you need to get married on our Jesus.”

They did it. And somebody in their house church is like, we're getting married. No. So shout out to Stan. That's a call, man.

It was legit, man. The pronunciation, man. That's amazing. Honestly, in the comment section as well, we have people from like India and South Africa. Yeah, if you're listening ahead of YouTube and tell us where you're listening

from in the comment section, that actually helps us know what's going on. And there's some things we do to sort of use that data. That's right. That'd be awesome. Shout out to last week's giveaway winner, Carson Johnson.

And he won.

Send it to Bowling Green Kid.

Who? Yes. Yes. Yes.

They responded to who did it better.

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We've already sold over a thousand hats, by the way. That's awesome. We've got some. I ran into no joke. I think I would conservatively estimate.

We ran into 40 people at universal who we ran into some people at a 10, like point in person. And then a bunch of livery nation folks. Like I'm conservatively guessing 40. That's cool.

Because it was a bunch of families that kept running up. That's a wild map. In fact, a little last thing, let's talk about hell. This is, by the way, this can be a very spicy episode for people who are listening. And that's not a joke.

And we're going to answer, there's a ton of misconceptions about hell. That very frankly, most Christians believe wrong things about hell. And they have no idea they believe wrong things. We're also going to get into some of the Catholicism purgatory stuff. It's actually kind of a big deal.

It's like the fastest roller coaster at Universal. And so like we finish. And I'm not a, I'm not a profanity guy. And I did not cut on the ride. And when I was done, I was very glad that I did it.

Because we finish.

“And the guy, D.C. in front of me, turns around and he goes,”

Pastor Charles. We listened to livery. And you know. That's amazing. It was awesome.

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Or go to Apple or Google Play Store. Pastor Charles, have a question for you. How low loud. What did it make to the sermon? All right.

This is a lot. So let me do this fast. Because this week in investigating Jesus, we're asking questions. What did Jesus say about hell in the afterlife?

We did the Luke passage about Lazarus and the rich man. Luke 16. What you got. By the way, a lot of people miss this up. Different Lazarus than the one he writes in the dead.

A lot of people don't, they miss that. So let me do a few things. This is the exact type of passage that makes me really glad we got this podcast. Because there is a ton that did not make it in here. So a few things real quick.

First of all, Catholic especially.

You're probably like rich man Lazarus. That's not what I've heard it called. Traditionally, especially in Catholic circles. This is the parable that we'll get called the parable of dives and Lazarus. Little interesting little fun, fun fact there.

Tradition. A church history later started calling the rich man dives. It's the Latin word for rich man from Latin vulgate. So a lot of Catholics think the dude's name was dives. That's not what it is.

It's just the Latin vulgate for a rich man. So that this is where this comes from. Jesus talks pretty extensively. Obviously, actually he's not talking about hell. He's talking about two places that are he refers to as Abraham's bosom.

And Hades that a lot of people think he's talking about heaven and hell. And he's not. He's actually talking about something that theologians have historically called the intermedia state. That very frankly, most Christians don't know anything about.

“So I'm going to explain this here in a second that it's actually kind of important.”

But it has implications about about hell in particular. So I do just want to say this. Jesus talked about hell two times more than any other Bible author.

Third, roughly 13% of Jesus teaching references or is about hell punishment judgment.

Half, this is shocking to me. I came across this in prep half of Jesus parables. Our references about hell now. Here's something. This is kind of thing.

I touched on this. I didn't have time to to to deep down. Well, you go and pull up that that first picture. So what will confuse a lot of Christians and there's some misconceptions about this. 11 times in the gospels.

The word that gets translated as hell is the Greek word. Gahena and a lot of Christians have heard this first part, but they don't know the second part. The Gahena. This Gahena is a Greek word that is. It refers to something called the valley of Ben Hennam.

The right side of Jerusalem. Paul, have you been? Oh, that's right. He has not yet. One last one day.

He's not been a joke played. No. I'm sure that whatever it is. I'm sure that whatever it is. Whatever you said.

Yeah. If I'd have seen an in person, I'm sure right now my mind looks. You're mind of people. If I'd have seen an in person, I'm sure right now my mind looks. You're mind of people.