How Discernment Turned Pain Into Purpose

but it is the most important thing in this what's left out. There's core good values and a

“lot of different texts, and our job, I believe, is the discernment to take out what doesn't”

insult your soul and apply it in your life and get a good result out of it. Donna Powell and Billy Carson are visionary transformational leaders best-selling authors in sought after speakers, drawing from their passion for personal growth, self-awareness, and conscious living. They inspire people to lead with purpose, embrace transformation, and unlock their highest potential. Thank you, respect. To others, if you don't respect

yourself first, and you cannot have compassion for others, if you don't first, have compassion for yourself. The Maya have a very ancient saying that's called "Inlacic Alican." That means "I am none of you." When I do for self, I do for others, and when I do for others, I do for self. I have a land

development project that is our first embassy for the new world, the new earth, where we're unified

in a regenerative agriculture project. We're taking it from the clouds and turn it into the clay. We are the molding of New Earth. The living your legacy podcast for those who live to leave a legacy. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Living Your Legacy Podcast. I don't know if you guys can see this, but I may or may not be in the room with some heavy hitters today.

Welcome to the show, Miss Donna Powell, and The Legendary Billy Carson. Thank you.

“Thank you guys for being on the show. First of all, how are we feeling today?”

We are feeling excellent. Fantastic, powerful.

Another day in sunny South Florida. I got no complaints about it. So, Donna, we're about to go into filming your episode, and I asked all my clients this before we go into filming. First of all, what do you think is like the most impactful part of your story that you want the audience to be able to take away from your episode? I'm transformation. Talk to me a little bit more about transformation. What's on the other side

of that transformation? Love. We've got one more answers here, but I'm going to need a little bit more from you to get a limb of some extra. Right, well, I'm on that. Well, if it's not Lev, it's an illusion. So, I'm transformation is taking the raw materials of lead and turn it into go, take in height and turn it into love. So, I'm realizing that we live in duality, and when you can transmute and raws to understanding that we live in duality and not taking it personally,

then you can transmute it into love rather than hate or, you know, negativity, all of that. It's a way to intervene. It serves us no purpose. It serves no purpose at all. One, so, ever. And so, I want to, you know, this is the audience's first time meeting you Donna. Our audience is very, you know, they're very entrepreneur, they're business-minded, but I want to get a deeper dive on who is Donna Powell, who is Billy Carson. Where did this ethos of love come from?

Kind of taking back to the moment of impetus that sparked this? Well, as a child, was just a devout Jesus freak, you know, I love Jesus, and, and so I grew up in, you know, Texas and Oklahoma, where a Bible built is, you know, that's where it is, you know. Yeah, I live in the Bible built, and I live in Oklahoma, and just from a young age, you know, my mom put me on the church vest, you know, with my, you know, we didn't have anything, but, you know, my mom's still

put us on the church vest, you know, and I noticed really early on in church that, you know, they robbed kids to go to church, you know, and we'd get the gifts and stuff like this. So, there was a, you know, there was an incentive, yes, and in the church bus came by and gathered

“up all the kids to come to church. You know, that's what my memories are of going to church because”

we're poor, very, very poor. So, I mean, got food and drinks and got a little gift or something like that. So, I mean, that's where I first, you know, met Jesus and in Sunday school, and, you know, and I was just not even goalable enough to fall for it. But it bleeds now into everything you doing in the present day. It's got to be something that is very hardwired into the floor of who is Donna, right? That is who I am. And, you know, I, I mean, a lot of folks, I talked to a lot of folks

on this show about just values and what we value and how it bleeds into everything we do. Those values that were instilled in you from an early age, talking about like, what are some of your core beliefs that lead to the Donna that's sitting in front of me today? For goodness. Huge one. For goodness. I mean, that's, that's, you know, what for goodness?

discernment, it's something that you don't get taught. In fact, they don't want you to know, but

“discernment is something that you want to learn. It's one of the most important. It is the most”

important thing in this what's left out. It is truly what's left out. For giving people every day, I mean, it's very core principle, but without discernment, you forgive the wrong people. Yeah, because the discernment kind of, the sermon is knowing that like, I can, I forgive you, however, I don't need to continue to spend time in this scenario. That's right. Because this is this, you know, you might be someone who's a serial offender of whatever, whatever the act.

Well, I lived that I'm forgetting about that. I lived with serial offenders. I mean, that's was my lot with serial offenders, but I thought that forgiveness, and, you know, that's family, bloodsticker than water. I mean, you hear all these scenarios. Oh, you can't forget where you come from. You know, those are programmed in you at a young age. I look at her. She forgets where she comes from. So even though I need to rise above that you're a condition to stay small because you don't want

people to think that you forget your roots and where you come from and forget your family and forget those things. But those are programming to keep you from rising and to stay in in lower vibration. Now, Billy, I would love to get your take on religion and how it plays a role in

building us into who we're meant to be. Yeah. Well, religion is very powerful and it's very, you know,

“it's a structure. And a lot of people need a structure and a system. In fact, that's what I teach in my”

my mentoring programs and I teach a structure and a system that helps you to get to the next level. So it has this purpose within the structure and system. The deep core spiritual principles are a real true knowledge, though. The spiritual aspect of like Don didn't really touch on, but that's really what she's into, the spiritual aspect of understanding this on a deeper level, not just a structured system that kind of man created. But these systems are there to help guide and ultimately

it was to help people rise. Unfortunately, you know, anything that man corrupt anything that man touches is corrupt is so there are some corrupt aspects of it. But this really good information in the spiritual access to Jesus, to the biblical texts, to other religious texts, there's core good values and a lot of different texts. And our job, I believe it's the discernment, to take out what does it insult your soul and apply to your life and get a good result out of it.

Mm. And you know, I love that you bring up other religious texts as well because it kind of a core belief of mine. You know, I'm a Christian. I'm a follower of Christ. But I also believe that if you take, if you look at most religions from a 30,000-foot view, you can start to identify a lot of core principles that are unanimous amongst amongst them, right? Love thy neighbor, do no wrong unto others. That's kind of a core tenet that follows along.

And then as you go back even further and further in history, you start to realize, like, we've been kind of saying the same thing. Have been saying the same church really.

“And where does it tie back to what we talked about in the beginning? Love. Love is the, I think,”

the ultimate thesis of religion. What, what would be your guys take on that? Yes, that's one of the book is all about. I wrote a book. I've got a three book series that's

called the A game. The first one is called Awakening to Ascension. And actually it takes the

principles of 12 different religions along with psychology, neuroscience, ancient wisdom, teachings, and shows you where it's all saying the exact same thing. Mm-hmm. And I mean, in all points back to love. And before I started the research, and once I, you know, started my crucifixion and tomb process, it was realizing that that people don't live by these core principles, you know, the ones that are deep that's

free to know them, you know, and expecting you to live by them, they don't live them themselves. And so I just set out on the journey and I, in my book on the A game Awakening to Ascension, it explains how to go through the process of 18 stages of how you wait to Ascension and how you become that cross, you know, and it's through cross consciousness and how you learn to raise your consciousness to that of cross, and to the Sophia cross, to not only embody it.

Well, it teaches you how to embody it and how to teach others how to embody cross. I would love to get through self-awareness is the key there as well. And I would love to get, I've talked about this a couple of times on this show. So anybody that's a serial watcher of the show will know the what I'm about to bring up, but I would love to get you guys take on, have you guys heard of cosmic egg theory? Cosmic egg theory? Yes, that's interesting.

Can you give me a brief summary? So cosmic egg theory posits that there's that the universe in and of itself is an egg and there's actually only one consciousness in the universe. And that singular consciousness is going to embody every living being throughout time. So time is non-linear. So let's say for example, I die and I go up, I become one with the creator again, and then he sends me back down to come and have another experience. And next time when I come back,

that I actually teach. Yes, and so if that one soul is coming back down to, and so the purpose of the

egg right is for that one soul, we got one consciousness to experience every variable of consciousness

“and every variable of experience. And that's what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches you got 12”

disciples and you have to live through every life of the Discoqual and then be crucified and resurrected back as you're across self. And then you then you get to escape the egg and you escape the egg and the egg hatches. And then you create a new world. And then you repeat the process. Let's create another one. Let's do it again. And so like within cosmic egg theory, the whole thing is experience is the point. The experience is the point. The experience is the point.

And when we say when we talk about love and we talk about treat others as you would want to be treated,

not only from the perspective of like just do good for good say, but also from the perspective of

you are me. I am you. You are just a projection of me. Exactly. And so like when I heard about cosmic egg theory, I was like, Oh, that makes a lot of sense. And until I embody the same spirit as you, then I'm going to automatically attract you to me. And until I have raised my conscious to that of your vibration, then I'm going to vibrate you into my radius, you know, into my nucleus, you know, within the core principles that I taught for so many years, understanding that God, the creator that

created this entire multiverse is living subjectively through each and every one of us, but not even through every one of us, even through each and every individual atom. And then last,

“each atom vibrates and each atom is vibrating and transmitting. And I believe that how you get”

omnipotentism and omniscience is through this vibration through this frequency that everything is resonating and transmitting its experience back to source. You know, it's funny, there's a recent study that came out that it's a theory more than a study, but it's theorizes that DNA in and of itself functions similarly to an antenna. And that antenna is, like you were saying, through your chakra system, transmitting vibrational frequencies back to, we don't know where, we don't know where

source is and what source is, everything in all things. Everything is source. And then go back to quantum quantum mechanics. There's so, I think I could nerd out about this, but let me read a lot of projects and nerds. They made a lot of progress in that area you're talking to. It even quantum mechanics. Oh, they discovered George Church scientists named George Church was able to convert his ebook into, uh, from, it's there was no ones into AC's, T's and G's and download it onto

a drop of DNA, one gram. He didn't replicate it the ebook 80 billion times and he discovered that one drop of DNA can store 43 feet petabytes of data peted by petabytes. I work in film, I work in

“production. I think I probably have in storage about 250 terabytes. Yeah. What is a petabyte”

a thousand terabytes? Oh, wow. We are at the quantum computer. Yeah. I mean, this is the quantum computer. Oh, yeah. We are the computer. I mean, there's nothing that's going to out smart, uh, something because we are the ones that didn't create it. And when we think about, you know, computational, when we think about ourselves as a computer, we mostly think about the mind. When you think about what a human being is, we're technically, we are the brain,

essential nervous system, and our nerves. And then everything else is kind of just a flesh suit

to protect that, right? And so we experience everything through our vagus nervous system and through the, the brain that is processing what the nervous system is telling it. And when you activate your pineal gland, and that's when you activate, which is calcified now, and then we've lost so, so much of it. We've lost so much, but you can activate it. I mean, with intention, and you can also clear your talker system to where you are a direct antenna, you know, and there's,

your talker system goes above your head and below your feet. And when you get these all clear and spinning correctly, and then you can start that yourself as the, the nucleus of the whole universe is flowing through you, and you can fill it and see it. And your heart does radiate a beacon. I mean, you can close your eyes and see the beacon. Now, for you guys out there that are watching, you might be seeing this episode and being like, oh my god, Jason's having his ultimate nerd out

experience. And I am, but I do want to make sure that you guys check out Donas episode of Kingdom Creators, which is going to come out shortly following this podcast episode. So if you think we're doing a deep dive now, I want you to simply imagine taking that into a 90 minute interview session and then compressing that down into her episode, I mean, it's going to be, I'm, I'm super excited. We're taking it from the clouds and turn it into the clay. We are the molding of New Earth.

That, you know what? That goes back to, that goes back to the experience thing, right? Which is like,

my brain from wherever, where it comes from, from source, right? My job as a creative is, all right, I have to make that manifest into reality. And that is when we're in the truest sense acting as gods. Absolutely. Yeah, we're not. If we are not creating, we're not, we're not being our godly cells. God wants us to create because he is a creator and if we're him, then we are creating and as long as we're creating and building, he's, you know, oh my gosh, he's excited. But if you're

just setting, they're not creating, then of course you're just an NPC. I never like using the term

NPC because I, I, I, I love to view everyone around me as well. Well, they can draw us. They can draw and, and every time we draw, they draw us with us. Absolutely. Because you, what, it, we do for ourselves. We do for every other person, because every other person is us. See, that, and that goes back to the whole core of this conversation, which is, treating, like, I, I, I love every human being as if they are not only an extension of myself,

but as if, as if they are, Christ or as if they are, my brother, my sister, right, my mother, my, my, my, my father. You know what I mean? I love God's creation. I love every one of his kids. Sometimes I might not like him so much. Oh, of course. And we just have point in that, we're human. We are here on our, to experience five senses. You know, so those, I mean, that's

incredible to be here and to be able to experience our five senses. I mean, that's understanding

your anger that it's there for a reason. That's to burn those old ways away. Yes, you got to

“get angry. Yes, you got to show your power. Do you need to project that onto everybody and everything?”

No, but you can be powerful and you can use that anger. You got to. That's called alchemy. You cannot trans mute without the fire. You know, that anger is going to give you the energy to say, I want to change, but until you get the fire, then you can't turn it to gold. Until you get the fire, you can't start the process of forging. That's one hundred percent. Can't forge it. You can't take it from the clouds and put it into the clay because you need that

energy. And then you like you take all that power and it's like, "Hush, calm down, Donna. Oh, don't talk about that." You know, because they don't want their scared of your power, because they're scared of what you're going to create. Now, there's one, as we sort of wind down here, because I mean, we could sit here and do the, we'll just do the whole episode at the podcast. But as we wind down here, there's one key question. We're here at inside success. I asked this

of all my guests here on the show. And I want to pose this question to both of you guys. What is,

“and I'll start with you, Donna. What is your number one key for success?”

Love. The key is love. Love it. Love it. Love it myself and love us. Others equally.

I'd, I have 100 percent integration with you on that. And I'll pose the same question to you, Billy.

What is your number one key for success? Well, for me, the number one key for success, of course, loves involved in it. But it's really understanding the recipe. And the recipe that exists, it works in anything that you do. The recipe first is believing yourself, trusting yourself, finding your passion, and working with in that passion, because the secret to making money is to find a need and fill it. But if you can do it within your passion, something that you're

passionate about, and you can find a need for that passion in the world, and you exchange energy for that need and that want, for what you're good at, then money is just a side effect in your bank account. So you don't want to chase money, you just follow your passion, money shows up in your account. And it's no longer work. So then one work becomes one world unified on respecting compassion. First for yourself, because you can't get respect to others if you don't respect yourself first.

And you cannot have compassion for others if you don't first have compassion for yourself. So it's like the drag and eat in its tail, you know what I do for self. I do for others, and what I do for others, I do for self. And it's just, I think that's one of the hardest things for people to realize. And is that the love for self projects outward and becomes love for others. Yeah. Well, we go back to ancient wisdom teaching, know that self, because once you know

yourself, nobody can tell you who you are and what you're capable of. So that's the first step and then as above, so below, as within, so without. You cannot have peace outside of you if you don't first have peace within. And you can't bring heaven to earth, you know, if you don't again have peace within to have it without and to bring, you know, heaven above to earth.

“And that's how you take it out. The clouds and bring it into the clay.”

Mm-hmm. Even when you go back to just the story of creation, right? God's first words to Moses were I am. I am the I am and who is the I am? I am. Correct. So no one's outside of you. Mm-hmm. It's nothing outside of you said it from the beginning. I am the I am and who is the I am? I am. Well, the thing about it is that you're a project that's called, you know, the Maya Cocoon. Yes. And the Maya have a very ancient saying that's called

Inla Kek Alikin. Mm-hmm. And that means I am another you. Mm-hmm. And so, man, I could do it. And we've got big projects coming on about the Machicoon and how we take this one world united on respect and compassion and we build this new earth together and, you know, become ambassadors of the new earth and say, you know what, if we quit looking at the old earth

as creator beings, you know, on new earth and creating unity, you know, the one of the 99,

“you know, we you not the 99, you know, we're not worried about the one percent, you know,”

let's you not the 99 and then we become the 1 percent. Mm-hmm. And you start back at one,

99. And then the cycle, in the cycle is again. Yes. And then we create what the age of Aquarius, which is out of the age of Pisces, which was, you know, a different time, you know, and we're moving on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Shout out to the rest of my Aquarians in the building, big up Aquarius. As we kind of wind down here, I want to back to what you were talking about just a moment ago, which is your projects coming up. Where first of all, where can people find

you guys on social media, on your different websites? I know Donna, you've got several different

“businesses, but I do. I do. And I've put my full focus in Belize. It's a small country in central”

America. English is their first language. Their USD's taught to the, I mean, there are many

the currency is taught to the USD to the one. And their laws is based on like British laws. So it's very same as, as I'm sorry. I don't know how to speak. But I have a land development project that is our first embassy for the new world, the new earth, where we're unified in a regenerative agriculture project that Billy Carson is in forbidden knowledge is working with me on. And we're looking for funders. He wants to be part of a regenerative program that we have

once we blueprint it and we show that it's functioning. We want to take the same blueprint

and create it in Sierra Leone and other countries throughout the world that we have our own embassies, you know, and you know what, we're just, we're saying we're starting it. No one's above anybody. We're just willing to say that I'm going to put my, I'm going to put my money and my name on it, you know, because this is where I'm going. I don't know where everybody else is going to know and it's not my problem. All I have to do is know where I'm going. I know who I am. I know where I've

been and I know where I'm going. And that's the creation again. That's creation. You had the idea, you said, you know what, I'm putting pen to paper, I'm putting action into it. And now it is manifest. It is manifesting. It's manifesting fast. And it's in real time. I mean, we're in real time. We're not, this isn't something that we're thinking about or we're dreaming about. No, it's in the clay. I mean, we've got the contract signed. We got the deposit's done. Now we're just looking

for the 91 people who want to help fund our project. For the viewers out there anywhere that they can find your organization. I know you mentioned that you have, you also have your coaching program, we're competing at 5G. Well, they can go to the 4, the number 4, 4bkacademy.com. That's my online mentoring program as well as 4bidinals.com. Again, with the number 4, or 4bidinals.ai with the number 4. And of course, podcasts, any platform, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, United 99, my own social

media platform. Just look for the forbidden knowledge information. And mine is, um, I game of alchemy.com. And one, onework.org. Onework.org. And I'll make sure, you know, I'll have our editors throw up some different links down here. I'm just pointing in directions, but I'm sure it'll show up on the screen somewhere in the edit. But guys, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show.

“And I think we're ready to roll into your interview. You're ready. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right,”

guys. This has been another episode of the legacy podcast. That's like the, again, let's do it. I'll catch you guys in the next one.