No One’s Healed: The Truth About Purpose from Jess Hilarious

Yet the taste of the chicken is better, the taste of a grater is tested.

The people who have been in cheese are cheese. Yet the grater is tested. The taste of the chicken is more than a piece of meat. But the taste of the chicken is more than a piece of meat.

“Life is always life. As long as you live like there will be things done at you, there will be trials.”

There will be tribulations that will be obstacles. That you have to overcome. Some you will some you won't. It's all about your level of resilience and endurance. Everybody goes through something when they are being challenged as a parent.

Just as a caregiver, just a guardian. You don't even have to be a parent. You can be somebody who watches over someone's kid. I don't get it right every day. That's why I do have a village.

I think God for my parents, my husband, my son's father. My mother-in-law, my father-in-law. Like it's a village. It really takes a village. None of this is easy. We make so much of so little.

It can be such a minuscule issue. And we overthink and we amplify it in our mind. Just overthink and creating scenarios and just going down these rabbit holes. And it's like it'll just be stopping breathe. There's no manual to it.

And every journey is different. Like I always express. Like it's different. But we all do what we got to do. There's an instinct that kicks in and we got it.

You're listening to Mick Unplugd. Hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and story-spark transformation. Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning. Open you discover your because and becoming unstoppable.

I'm Rudy Rush and trust me. You're in the right place. Let's get Unplugd. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugd. And today I'm truly honored to be with someone you've known for a long time

from skits to the breakfast club. But I know her as a bestselling author. And we're going all in today on Baltimore's Finance. Miss Jesselace. Jess, how you doing today, dear?

I'm good. Thank you for that introduction. That was nice. I like that. You heard me say Baltimore, right?

Baltimore all day without the tea. Don't put the tea in. I got it down. Yes. So Jess, I was just telling you how proud I am of you for this book.

And we're going to go places with that book.

But you know, I always like to ask my guest about their because.

That thing that's deeper than their why. I call it like your true purpose, your true mission. So if I were to say, Jess, today in 2026, what's your because? Why do you keep doing the things that you do?

Oh man, for one, you know, the obvious reason my children, you know, and then legacy is very important. It's very important. I saw a clip of Mike Tyson one day. He was talking to a young reporter in the ass.

I'm always like to see him. He just like, it's whole or a change. And he was like, what is like this legacy is stupid? That's just like, you know. And I just, I was like, no, no.

Like I see it's very important. Obviously, there were things there, you know, that hurt him. I don't know what that was about. But that was the first time I ever heard of legacy spoken. Of in a way that was against everything that I had ever knew.

Known it to be and I was like, oh my God, no. So my heart's shattered for him.

Like legacy is one of the most important things to ever leave behind.

“That's why I's important to have children in my opinion.”

It's like, what are you doing all this for? It has to be for a reason. You know, and that's why I wanted to share a piece of literature. You know, such as my co-parenting memoirs. So that's when we parent because parenting is so linear.

Like it's different. Everybody, but it's an ongoing thing. It's something that will never end. Relationships and friendships contracts. You know, everything has an ending except parenting.

You know, and that's very important. Very important in every journey looks different. But I believe that we can all get the same outcome. You know, just with communication. And that's really showing up for your kids.

No matter what the other parent is put you through. That's the main thing where I wanted to. That's my main reason why. There we go. There we go.

Yeah, I love it. And we're going to get into a lot of the book. And I have a bunch of notes because I made my kids read this book from the viewpoint of this.

“Because I call them my kids, but you know, they're in their 20s now, right?”

I don't see it. Yeah. And they're going to be parents and our parents. And so understanding that something that I thought was really dynamic in the book was, you know, you talk about you and Rome and Rome's in the book as well, too.

And it's just like, at some point you had to realize, we aren't going to make it.

And I think a lot of times people, you talk about relationships. You talk about friendships. Like, I've had to kick people out of my circle once I realized. We ain't going to make it. But there's a greater purpose that we need to unite for.

And that's where I wanted to give me kudos because I think a lot of times people miss that. And then there becomes hatred for the other person. Yeah. Because it's like, well, we're not going to make it. Well, let's just not do anything.

Yeah. The kid goes and sees all that. You talk about the energy that kids read and that they see. I mean, talk about that for the audience for the viewers on this. It's very true.

It's very, very true.

“That's why it's very important to have, you know, a hat and okay.”

So you don't want to complete this, too.

Because happiness, I always have to.

People always give me an idea. It's not about being happy. It's about having joy, right? Because there's a huge difference. You know, like, happiness, you know, that's any motion.

And that can change in 10 seconds. You know what I mean? Joy is something that you wear or something that you feel when you find joy. That takes healing to find joy. That takes self-awareness to find joy.

Self-love. And it takes a lot of growing up to do to even, you know, to have that once, you know, once you've lived through so much trauma. And that speaks to forming a healthy bond between parent and child. Because your child only absorbs what you put out.

You are your child's first teacher.

You know, so it's very important to be happy and joy is. Happy is amazing. But you, when you have emotions, right? And you're operating from a bitter place. If you and the other parent are not doing good or, you know,

y'all are facing adversities in your relationship or whatever. And it has nothing to do with the child. And you start to notice different patterns in your children. Because you are walking around bitter upset with these emotions. Emotions and holding on to just all this bitterness, bitterness and energy.

And then you're projecting that onto your child subconsciously. Because you don't, you're not doing your own purpose. But let's don't do it on purpose. But then you start to see a change in the behavior. And you're like, where is this coming from?

Why is he starting to act up? Well, semi isn't school now. Become a problem. He's being oppositional. He's being defiant. Because he is absorbing your energy. And now he's revered to saving it back to you. Or in back, wherever, wherever they are.

“That's why it's very important to have a crippling mental health as a parent.”

Parenting is one of the hardest things. It's the most challenging thing you could ever do. But it's complex and it's complicated, but it's beautiful. You know, because it's a life like you, you're having your own people. You know, you're able to train your people up, you know, train your little.

It's the village that you're creating and your offspring is always supposed to be better than you are.

So that's why you're mental space. You just have to be in a great mental space to raise your children. I truly believe that. And you know, you talked about legacy. And there's some, some moments in the book that, to me, were like, Holy shit. Like, just was vulnerable and said that. And I mean, I missed by the way.

I felt up the book, but till death, do we parent? Definitely go get it. Wherever you buy books from, go get it literally right now. You talk about the breakdown moment, right? You talk about being miserable and being broke, right? And you feel like rooms out there living his best life and you're just like, why am I doing this?

Yeah. Why? Take us to that moment. Like, what is that really like? Because a lot of people, while they may fill it, they don't talk about it and accept that it's a real feeling. And I give you kudos for accepting that it's a real feeling. Yeah. It's definitely a real feeling. And a lot of women go through it, a lot of young moms go through it.

Even fathers, I'm sure, go through it. But being the mom being the person that has to be the primary caretaker. And, you know, the nurturer and the babies, they come from us. They feed on us for nine months and then they're forever connected to us. That was a very hard thing to write about because I did not have an emotional connection to my son until he was six months. I just did not.

I didn't even know if I wanted to put that in the book because I was most nervous that my son

“would fill a certain way. That's why I had to have the conversation before the final,”

the final script was published because I'm like, no, I don't want him to. Kids are cool. He is on his way to high school. He has a group of friends.

When I was four of them, you know what I'm saying? And the last thing I want

or once had was him to hear that part from someone else. And my son is an avid reader, loves reading. He read the book already. But I wanted to before he sat down and read that. And because, say, my mom didn't even have the decency to tell me how she felt. I'm, I'm old enough to understand somewhat.

“And that's what that's also what I was afraid of as well.”

Whether or not he was old enough for me to even have that conversation. But I still want it to provide that that that scene and paint that picture, which was a beautiful moment as it relates to a connection that was birthed six month after his physical birth, you know, after me giving birth to him. I connected with him on such a level that I don't regret my feelings. I don't wish I could have done it different.

I don't because what I felt in that moment was like a telepathic message.

It was like, it was like, no, I am your mother. And from him, it was like, I'm your son.

You're going to get this together. You're going to listen. You laid down and made me. And now you and here having a little spiral moment. And because my father's out there living his life. You chose to have me. You're going to have to take care of me. Whether he is here with you or not, I swear it was those words.

And he was just smiling at me while I'm crying and breaking down like, why did you choose me as your mother? And I swear he looked at me like, girl, I didn't choose you. I didn't even choose this life. Like, I didn't choose to be born. You know, so at that moment, I picked him up and that's when I connected with him. Emotionally and mentally. And it was just like from there. Oh, my God.

He went from being the baby to my son, ashton, my baby, my pride and joy, my responsibility. And it's been that way ever since. Yeah, I love it because that was the moment that I was reading the book that I picked up the phone. I called my youngest and I say, hey, I'm sending you a book right now.

“I'm ordering on Amazon. It will be there tomorrow. He's like, what's the book?”

And so I started telling him the title. And he's like, Dad, I don't have kids. There's a moment in this book that I need you to understand. Because you talk about action looking at you and like pretty much saying, Get your life together because we got to move on, right? Right. I'm hungry.

Amper's right. My youngest son, we had a moment like that where he was just like, hey, Dad. I know you say that all this is going on. But can we go get some cereal though? Why? I don't know.

That was you. My problem is they should problems, bro. You know me. But as a parent, that makes you understand the beauty of we put so much pressure on ourselves. Sometimes I'm trying to get some cereal.

Yes, right. It's like we make so much of so little. You know what I mean? Like, it can be such a minuscule issue. We overthink and we amplify it in our mind. Just overthinking, creating scenarios and just going down.

He's rabbit holes in his like, he'll just stop and breathe. You know, there's no manual to it.

And every journey is different. Like, I always express like, is different.

But we all do what we got to do. There's an instinct that kicks in and we got it. Yep. Another thing I love that you wrote in the book. And then you also talk about it all social media.

You talk about it in a lot of interviews. And I like to segue to my segment. I call the unplug truth. And you have the most real truth ever. You say, I don't care what it looks like.

I still don't get it right every day. Yeah.

“And I think people need to understand that because I believe exactly what you.”

I tell people someone that appears to be perfect just run away. Because whatever they're about to tell you, whatever advice they're about to give you, it ain't real. Because the people I listen to don't get something right every day. And that's what I appreciate. Yeah. And exactly what you said.

Like, that leaves me so spaces because, yeah, the people that you think. Like that you looking at like, I know that person got it all together. I know every day is just sunshine and rainbows for them. I know that their kids don't have problems. I know that, nah, you don't know.

You don't know. Everybody goes through something when they are being challenged as a parent. Just as a caregiver, as, you know, just a guardian.

You know what I mean? You could be a guardian. You could be somebody who watches over someone's kid. You know what I mean? I don't get it right every day.

That's why I do have a village. I think God for my parents. My husband, my son's father, my mother-in-law. My father-in-law. Like, it's a village.

It really takes a village. None of this is easy. Not, not at all, not at all. And another truth that you have that's also in the book.

“And I think this one stopped me on my tracks too because, again, you're very vulnerable, which I appreciate in the book.”

Yeah. You talk about, you're not wanting to tell Rome, right?

Like, when you first found out you were pregnant and you were,

not that you didn't want to tell them. You were just scared. And I think a lot of times a truth that we need to understand is, it's okay to have the emotion of fear. It's just not okay to let it run you, right?

And again, I applaud you for that vulnerability and that conversation. Like, walk us through that moment. Man, I'm listening. Make I consider this a few all day because that is literally the epitome of what the feeling was. It's like, yo, y'all do not understand.

They're not a fear. I was like, oh, so I, I'm in the house by myself. Now I'm in Rome's house and he went to go play basketball. And I'm 19 and I'm like, looking at this test. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's as positive. And you know how you already know something,

but it's nothing like that confirmation that that moment of clarity, where it's like boom, oh, no, this shit is real. Like, oh, it was positive. And I knew that I really knew in that moment. And I was like, damn, not only do I have to tell Rome,

“who I think I'm going to scare away after some of my parents,”

who don't even know I'm dating. They don't even know where I am right now. They think I'm somewhere else. Wow. The amount, oh my God, like, the amount of paranoia and just anxiety.

It was like, I could have really, really had a heart attack in that moment. And then he walks through the door. And I walked down to steps and we're making eye contact. And he's like, what's wrong? Because I look worried.

I'm trying to look good. I'm, you know, I'm trying to be cool and, and, you know, get my nerves all together. And he's like, what's in your hand? And I just drop it. He picks it up. He's like, you're pregnant.

I'm like, yeah, he's like, oh my God, we're going to be a family. And I'm like, okay, not what I expected. Okay, so I did, I'm not going to lie. I felt better. But that was very short lived because I still knew.

We're not ready for this. We're not ready.

You know, I'm over the first time of Jerome not running for the hills.

Not saying, oh, well, look, you want to take care of that. You want y'all. You know what I mean? Because that's what I expected. And I think, I think I was so scared. And that moment that I wanted him to see that now.

“Now, as an adult, just looking back, I think I,”

I was so afraid to have this baby. And, you know, and just thinking about my life and how much it was slow down and almost stop. You know, I'm not even out of my parents' house yet. You know, I haven't even been knowing wrong this long.

I think I'm in love. I'm, you know, but I think I was so afraid that I wanted him to react that way just to have a reason to get rid of my child. And when he reacted the other way around, I felt a relief, but then I was even more afraid.

Because I'm like, damn, now if I do get rid of the baby, if I do, schedule the appointment to get an abortion, now I'm going to hurt his heart. I'm going to hurt him. Well, thank God you did it.

Yeah, thank God, every day I think I got the other part though. So you tell Rome, that's cool. You got to go home and tell Mama now. Yeah, crazy. Bonarais and the church too strict parents.

Well, my dad was more lenient, but my mom was the one. That's like, oh, she was stern and she, oh, my God. Very nurturing affection and loving love her. My angel, but still coming up. Mm-hmm.

And lady, I went play with her. I went play with my daddy, the former Marine, and just all the structure and into that. We had rules. Oh, my God, from A to Z back to A, it was crazy.

So I'm over there and I asked Rome to go with me. I was like, I don't want to tell them about myself. Can you go with me? And he goes, yeah, let's tell them today. I was like, damn, I'm just trying to get me killed.

Like, I just told you, let me get a second.

You know, and he's like, no, I think we should get it out the way.

“Because I want to like start telling my friends and family.”

He was so excited. He was on such a high. I was like, okay, all right, let's do it. The sooner the better, anyway, we go over to my moms. To my mom's house.

You know, to my house. And my dad answers the door. That's not what I want to see right away. I'm like, oh, why could my mother answer the door? And so he's not even like, come in.

He's just like, who is this? And Rome is behind me. He's trying to look behind me. Like, who are you bringing to my house? 830 at night.

I'm like, oh, because we got to catch the bus. I'm sorry. It's though. We go in the kitchen. You know how that's saying.

A mother knows how to need. She knew something was up. She knew before I even set it out of my mouth. Like, just a look that she gave me.

It's like, I know something is out of the first of all.

You're not bringing the little knucklehead to our house this late at night. Right. For it. You say the problem more. No, yeah, you, you, you, you passed that.

What's going on? You can't graduate. What's up? So who? I tell her.

This is my boyfriend. I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. I'm my father. They're puzzled for a minute.

My father needs to go out in the backyard to get some air. He was so, like, taking a back, but just disappointed and just frustrated. Like, damn, we didn't even know you were dating. Not that we'd say that you couldn't, but we didn't even know. And you just, you know, you pregnant, too.

Like, what has happened? What did you have time for? They're questioning themselves, like, with the hell. Like, how do we not see or know or even think about this with her right now? And my mother, I remember her just walking around.

Because she was finishing like dishes or something like that. I remember her walking around. And she put her right hand on my back and put her left hand on Jerome's back. And she began to pray. And I just burst out in tears.

Like, I just, I could not control myself. Because a part of me was just like, I know I can't do this. I know I can't. I know I can't, but this boy is so happy. And he lost his mother.

And I know he looks at this as a sign. From his mother, like, giving him a child. And it's just, I just, I could not break his heart. And then my mother told me before I want to be dead that night. She was like, listen.

This is ultimately your decision.

“You need to think long and hard about the decision that you are about to have to make.”

And you can't wait too long to make it. This will change your life. No, your life won't stop, but it will be much more complicated. Then you thought it would be at 19. So you better figure out what it is that you want to do.

It's to be successful because you don't plan on going to college. You don't have a job right now. You don't even know what you want to do with industry. You want to catapult yourself into for work. You don't, I haven't even, you don't know.

You're still a baby yourself. So thank and thank wise and thank hard. And I knew what she was trying to tell me. Like, and it wasn't you need to get into the portion. It was think about yourself your life because she knew that I was thinking about wrong more than myself.

You know, so yeah, that was that was that was hard too. That motherly wisdom right? Yes. And now I guess you got it now too, right? I do.

I do. I do. I do. I do. I know in the book and you talked before about how your mom was preparing you all your life.

To be a mom and how that was very special. And I love hearing you say that too. I'm going to go to my next segment. I call it hot takes. And you get to live hot takes every day.

Yeah, that's what you do for a living. That's true. That's what you do for a living. So I'm going to give you a Jessica more. Not even a Jessal.

I'm going to give you a Jessica more hot. Okay. Now look, I didn't got Mary. So Jessica more tall of him. I'm a that one.

Yes. Yes. Jessica more tall of him. Now the most than me one now, but you know, I just got at it.

My husband's like. A tall of him. Yes. I'm going to give you this one. You've said it before.

But no one is fully healed. There's a lot of us carry his scars. And sometimes we got to accept and see that. Yeah. Right.

We got to accept and see the scars that other people have. You know, we talked earlier about no one's perfect. No one's got it together. But no one's also fully healed. Talk to us about that a little.

“Well, life is always life and no matter what.”

So if you're walking around and you're telling somebody or if you hear someone say, I'm fully healed. I'm good. And nothing, you know, not that I'm trying to force problems on people. Not that I think it's something wrong with everybody.

As long as you live life, there will be things thrown at you. There will be trials. There will be tribulations.

“There will be obstacles that you have to overcome.”

Some you will, some you won't. You know, it's all about your level of resilience and endurance, right? But handling is doing the work recognizing trauma, recognizing baggage, recognizing that you aren't perfect. And there are some things that you may have to work on. You know, when you recognize those things, you work.

You work to assess them properly. You work on how to navigate through conversations. Some you, you'd be so surprised. I'm going to people can't have a conversation because it's complicated or because it brings a level of discomfort that one is not yet to sit through. You know, people are not yet ready to face conflict or have a mirror turned on themselves.

Healing is, like I said, very many. It can go one way, but it can go a million ways and it can take forever to heal. But you, you can heal from something but there's something else happens. You're still living as you're healing.

So you're never going to be fully healed from everything.

But a working progress is what you want. A fully healed person is a perfect person. And there are no perfect people. They don't exist. No, they don't exist. Richer, poor, whatever.

Right. You're going to go, listen, healing is needed for everybody. Absolutely. Absolutely. Here's my other hot take and you can't come through the screen on me. Okay.

So I've been in a couple of, I'm going to say fights, altercations in my life. I've been in two all most altercations and both of those were in Baltimore. Oh, no. Because nobody called me a dummy. And I said, what in the world?

I did not know at the time that that was a term of endearment in your city. Where did that come from? Like, when did this dummy just become cool? You know, it was crazy. I started hearing it when I was about 11 years old. I was 11. That's when it was started to being, it was, they started using it real heavy as a term of endearment.

Because my father and my mother said, they ain't never said that shit to none of them.

They listen. The older people, I wish to have one of y'all. That came up with my generation. I was in elementary school on my way to middle school when I started hearing that. Where were real heavy? And my peers and we all used it in a few generations thereafter.

But they don't say it no more like they used to. My generation still walking around. We in our 30s. We still dummy was so, you know, even our mayor, Baltimore. Baltimore mayor, Brandon Scott. Tell me what's up.

I'm so sorry that you had to get into a fight. But that really means you're smart. All right. I almost did. Luckily, the crab cakes were good. That's all we're saying.

That's another, that's another. That's our, our endearment dish. There you go. Right. Yeah.

That's a great thing for me. That's right. That's about how it went down. And I was like, I'm not from around here. That's right.

Well, you thought I was from. But it is not here. That's the one we love. I used to think of it all the time.

“I used to be like, why do we say it's the people who are not from here?”

It's so offensive to the people who aren't a part of this Baltimore culture. It should be from Baltimore. It's a Baltimore. It should not be from Baltimore. It's a tourist.

It should not be. No. Not at all. I did. I did.

My last segment or second or last segment.

Yeah. Call it the room. You've had and will continue to have an illustrious career. Right. You've done things that most people.

And I'm just going to say that that look like you don't get to have that look like us that don't get to have like you. You have earned every room you have ever been in. So I'm hearing your flowers from that. Thank you. Talk about the one room where there was a meeting, a dinner, a lunch whatever it was.

What was the one room that truly changed your life when you knew this is it? This is what I'm going. Hmm. One room. Well, the one room that started it all was Wells Farville Arena.

“And that's what it was Wells Fargo Arena in Baltimore City.”

Two thousand. Sixteen on the stage performing in front of 13,000 people opening for Martin Lawrence. I knew this is where I belong. This is what I'm going to do. This is what I want to do.

It's the extent of comedian in my own city got a stand in novation after it's ten minutes set.

You know, four Martin Lawrence in front of 13,000 Baltimoreians. Yeah. I don't even think people realize if you're watching this, if you're listening to this, that like your first open might like people had to tell you to go do it. Yeah.

Yeah. I was scared to say, I was like, no, I'm used to making my videos by the phone.

“And I think, you know, if people in your face they can't, you can't delete.”

Go back, edit, delete, then do something to repose. No, you got to make them people laugh and your face ain't no edit come back. Cut, none of that. Yeah. And I did it.

And from then on, I've been doing it. Yeah. Yes, you have. And that's another thing I want to give you flowers for. Thank you.

Because, you know, starting in that era of the social media comic, right? And a lot of people to this day get labeled that and they can't adjust because it's different. And I'm not, I'm not talking about it in a bad way. It's just as different to, to be alive and to feel the energy because to your point. Like when it's you in the phone or you in the sky, that you can perfect it as much as you want to.

Yeah.

When somebody's sitting in front of you and I, I'd never understand this.

Go to a comedy show and you got people that are just sitting there like this. It's like, you pay money to be. Why didn't you even come like here? You know, why did you even come in here? But so yeah, doing comedy is one of the hardest.

I hear people say it's one of the hardest things to do. I, it's just in me. I've always been funny. I've always been able to make a stiff room laugh. I, I, I, I make shoulders go down.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't, I, and then I make a bounce because the people be laughing. I don't say I'm telling you. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

“Everybody, again, given Jess is shameless bug.”

Jessalaries.com, like you can go see where she's going to be. Yes. She has her tour up there. You can get her book there. Again, wherever you can get the book.

This book is the greatest wherever you can get it. Go get out. Okay.

If it's Amazon, books, a million Barnes and Noble, you're a local bookstore.

Go get it. My job is to make this a New York Times best seller. Oh. Week after week after week after week after week after. I love your job.

I love your job. I love your job. That's, that's my only job. Thank you. So I got it.

Jess, you've been gracious. I'm going to get you out of here with this rapid fire. Top five, quick five. Okay. Ready?

Hmm. What's being your favorite stage? Baltimore, Maryland. The lyric, Opera House, and Baltimore, Maryland. Okay.

Okay. No, I'm sorry. No. No. The hippodrome and Baltimore, Maryland.

The hippodrome and Baltimore, Maryland.

Oh, can I do a novel? Oh. You should show. Okay. The hippodrome and Baltimore, Maryland, and also MGM.

Um, casino, um, in DC, oxygen. Yes. My team favorite. That's DMV right there. That's Baltimore DC.

My people. There you go. Yes. And by the world together, I love it. I love it.

You've had a long day. You're on set with Nucleheads all day. You're giving us truth all day. When you've had a long day, and it's time to have that meal. What's the just eating?

Oh. Okay. Okay. Yes. Very tackles.

Yes. Whether I make him my husband, make him where we order him. Everybody can cook in his house. So yes. Okay.

I brought him more. See you to say crack. No. I did it. I did it.

You didn't give me your love. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

But it's tackles. I live in New York. Ain't no damn praises up here. Shoot. It's tackles club.

A lot of love. I've been rocking with you all my life. Who's the most boring person on the show? Everybody who does front page news. Anybody who does front page news.

Just because politics is boring to me. Yeah. No shots at a person. But front page news. They have to be like sleep.

“And if he's six o'clock in the morning, I'd be like, "What?”

Trump, oh gosh." That's it. But they know he boring. Shoot. There it is.

All right. Charlotte, may you obviously from South Carolina from the low country. I'm from South Carolina from the Upstate. Who's your favorite person from South Carolina, Jess? Yeah.

Charlotte, may you go out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's the same. That's the same.

It's right. I'm sorry. That's the same. That's the same. He's mine too. Yeah, that's right. I wouldn't have liked it if you said me. You know that and then also that's that's my big brother man

That's the person that's the chacha has down on the corner. You know what you did and I don't feel sorry for you go sit your hands now like that is a Real big brother

Exactly, but always got you back. Oh, I was gonna back. He kick it in then he all with any then he put it

Band-aid on it. They didn't get it last one as the story of your legacy unfolds

“What's one word that you want to make sure to find your legacy?”

Resilience Resilience. I can get through anything. I have gotten through Everything and still more to come. I'm still listen. I write the articles. I love a challenge, but like even unwanted Challenges and you know unforeseen Controversies are just would at anything. I have

gotten through it You know my level of endurance and and resilience is a

Immaculate to me. Yeah, and that's because I'm a good person and I have a heart of gold. I am a person and I'm real and you're only gonna always get what you see

Jessica robbing more Taliban You got it absolutely absolutely. Hey everybody do me a favor a couple of favors one Go follow Jess everywhere google or you'll get all our social handles, but I'll make sure that they're in all the show notes some of the descriptions here Do me a huge favor

Go get this book

“I can't tell you enough how if your parent you need this if you want to be able to hear an amazing story through parenting”

You need this book. I love this book so much Jess. I'm gonna do this on Instagram the first 20 people that message me parent I am going to send you a copy of the book oh wow and then do Jess and I a favor when you get the copy

Take a picture tag Jess and tell her something amazing that you found out in the book

Right like we need this book It's already going viral, but we need to take it to the stratosphere This will be a New York Times best seller in 26 because of this community and Jess. Thank you. Get it go get it go get it. Just love you from my core. I love you too. appreciate who you are Just all the amazing things that you were doing and the the blueprint that you are I can't thank you enough. Thank you, man

I appreciate you love

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