Former CDC Director Breaks Silence on Fauci

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Whether you need peace, encouragement, or a fresh start, Pray.com helps you make prayer part of your everyday life. Download the Pray.com app today. Five years on from the COVID pandemic, shocking details continue to come to light about the degree to which the American people were misled, and information was suppressed. Once we knew that this was engineered to infect humans, we should have known we were in a race.

In today's episode, we sit down with former CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield to discuss his first

hand experience working with Dr. Fauci during the peak of the hysteria. Dr. Redfield shares why he believed from the start that the virus came from a lab, but that information was covered up.

“I'm daily wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia Hal. This is a week in addition to morning”

wire. Joining us now is Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the CDC Dr. Redfield. Thanks for coming on. Thank you very much for having me. So you were serving as the head of the CDC when the COVID pandemic broke out, and you also worked closely with Dr. Fauci before that. What was that experience like? Well, I had worked with Tony and Ollie back in the 1980s and AIDS. I was the CDC director when he was a director ofology and infectious disease. So I was the CDC

director all during the pandemic. I can remember the White House Task Force. So I gave my professional opinion and just not in January of 2020 that I felt that this was a natural occurring virus that was a consequence of scientific research and laboratory. And I shared that with the president and the

“committee, Tony took the position that it was from nature from the wet market. I think there was”

a lot of evidence that that was not correct. And he's a very smart individual. So I believe that he actually understood that that was incorrect. And he intentionally helped create what I call a roost that it came from the wet market. Largestly because NIH was involved along with the government agencies. He was a big advocate of gain of function research where you try to make pathogens more pathogenic and more transmissible. I was a big advocate of not doing gain of function

research. I wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal a number of years ago, you know, really pushing our nation not to be involved in gain of function research. President Trump just recently put another moratorium on creative function research. That's really important now if it can be enforced. Fauci wrote an op-ed in 2012 where he talked about the importance of gain of function research and why that research had to go forward. And in that op-ed, he said that if the consequence of doing this

research is that the results in a major pandemic, it's worth the risk. While the reality is it did

result in a major pandemic. Now, you mentioned that there was evidence to suggest this virus did not emerge, you know, organically, what evidence was there? As a neurologist, there's clear evidence. Actually, in the genome of the virus itself, so if you really understand how to read the genome, you can really find out that wait a minute, it just didn't come for nature. For example, as Ram Paul talked about, there's a fear and cleaver sight in this virus and what that does is it splits the

protein so that binding the main of the virus now, preferably recognizes the human receptor, but doesn't recognize the bat receptor. And when you look at does 12 nucleotides, they code for four amino acids and the amino acid nucleotides sequence that they used, actually, yeah, you can have different triplets for different amino acids and the triplets sequence that are used in this virus are the triplet sequence that is preferred by humans, not bats. So, how does a human

human preferred sequence for say, "Arginine, how does that get in this virus?" When it used to be classified as declassified now, but when I reviewed this with Pompeo, who is Secretary of State, he asked me to help interpret it all this data in his office under classified conditions. And as I said now, it's declassified, but I told Pompeo that my view, that was smoking gun. I mean, that cleaver sequence doesn't belong there. And there's a lot of other issues. The Livermore laboratory

that knockout will be called the interferon response element. And so what that does is when you get

“this virus all of a sudden, you're not going to get sick, okay? If you have the interferon response element”

triggered, you're getting symptoms like you do for the flu, well, they knocked it out. And then they knocked out several other areas of the virus that would allow your body to develop what we call the unid dominant response, immune response, which would mean that you wouldn't get the virus again. Alright, so this is why you can get COVID over and over and over again. I just wrote a book called "Red Shields Warning," which I also encourage your readers to read. In that book,

I talk a lot about the mistakes that we were made and acknowledging them. And when that was a mistake, can retrospect, now is a mistake, that was a mistake. And that's when I was hoping Tony

would do it. He said, you know, I did the best I could under the circumstances, but in retrospect,

I was wrong about that. I was wrong about that. And I want to apologize to people that were

“harmed by some of my recommendations. I mean, I'm just sad that he didn't take advantage”

of being able to take responsibility for his decisions and recommendations, be humble and realize, you know, hey, we all got things wrong. Do you think part of his unwillingness to testify in Congress could be because he's covering up his own direct role in, you know, helping fund this Wuhan lab that appears to have artificially created the virus, but not just an unwillingness to accept blame. I can't believe it's already August, which means a few more weeks of glorious

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“Yeah, I think there's no doubt that there's a lot of protection there. I mean,”

more so than funding it because he did fund it. Okay. I mean, funded the scientists that help make it happen, Ralph Barrack and North Carolina and others, but it is important to acknowledge that the Defense Department also funded it. USAID funded it, the State Department funded it, and Fauci's Institute funded it. And actually, if you look at those Fauci's Institute,

it was much of a less funder than some of the others. USAID was a huge funder. I always said,

from the very beginning, when I made it clear in January 2020 that I thought this virus came from the laboratory. And it wasn't that I was some type of genius if you just looked at the literature, though the woman's scientist in that laboratory published in 2014 in the medical literature, she published that she actually finally taught a coronavirus, how to infect humanized mice through the ACH2 receptor. Okay. So we know they knew how to do that. One thing that's true is

And so even though now, you know, 20 something years later, there's been less than 10,000 cases

as SARS. Because the SARS virus never learned how to go efficiently human to human.

When MERS came in in 2012, 2013, it went from a bat to a camel and then from a camel and a human's. And it also never learned how to go human to human. So very well, very efficiently. So there's still less than 10,000 cases as SARS too. So it takes these viruses a long time to learn how to be efficient human to human transmitters. But when COVID came, it was immediately,

“if you remember the pictures we saw in November, December, and Wuhan, China, there was hundreds”

of thousands of people infected immediately. If you take that virus now, you'll find out it doesn't hardly infect bats, but infects human. So it was engineered. And this is where he was

disingenuous. Because he would have made a difference. I argued, once we knew that this was engineered

to infect humans, we should have known we were in a race. Because this virus was going to go through variant after variant after variant. You know, the vaccines that we were developed, we're not going to prevent infection. So when President Biden and thought she said, get your grandchildren in vaccine, it said they don't infect grandma. That was not a true statement. Because there was no evidence we prevented infection at all. There are some monoclonal antibodies

“that have been developed. It can prevent infection. But these vaccines don't prevent infection.”

Final question. When you saw that people were being censored for saying that the virus may be comes from a lab, what did you make of that censorship campaign? Well, I was very disappointed. I had since I was the one who originally in Sanju Gupta and CNN came out and said, I thought the virus came from a Chinese lab and he, you know, he really drilled me. And I immediately got targeted. I mean, I was articles were written that I was an Asian racist because I gave my

scientific opinion in the state of Maryland. House and Senate passed resolution censoring may as a racist because I gave my scientific opinion. And it was definitely censored. The wet market was set up as a roost really supported by the NIH leadership, Fauci and Collins. But also the scientific community in general because they didn't want the attention to be on the science. They wanted the attention to be, you know, you know, SARS and MERS were just,

they came out of some bat that went to some animal intermediate and into humans. It's very unfortunate, very wrong. And as you point out, the obviously self-serving and one of the hearings were Tony got really mad and lost the stepper. He said, you know, Senator Paul, you're accusing because he said he didn't do gain of function research, which is not true. Tony had the definition was modified by the Institute of Medicine. So if you start with the pathogen that's pathogenic

for humans and make it more pathogenic for humans, that's gain of function. But if you start with a pathogen, this non-pathogen for humans, like SARS, are COVID and make it pathogenic by definition, they say, well, that's not gain of function. Of course it's gain of function. You taught it, had to infect humans. So a lot of game being played and very unfortunate. I'm very disappointed with the scientific community that they orchestrated that proximal origin paper, which is a

fraudulent paper, it should be retracted. All of those authors should be under investigation for scientific misconduct because it's not a true paper. But in immediately became one of the most quoted papers in the history of scientific literature. Dr. Redfield, thank you so much for coming on. This has been fascinating to hear your firsthand accounts from all these very significant moments that impacted all of our lives. Thank you so much. Thank you very much for having me. I enjoyed it.

That was Dr. Robert Redfield former CDC director and colleague of Dr. Anthony Fauci, and this has been a weekend episode of Morningwire.

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