321. The Murder of Makayla Maeve

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Welcome back, happy Monday. Thank you for being here, thank you for listening, thank you for watching, and for showing up, thank you for subscribing, all of it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Here we are, recording.

Ready for a true kind episode. What do you guys do this weekend? Anything fun? What did we do? Work.

Oh yeah, we worked. We worked. Our anniversary is soon. Oh yeah. Tuesday?

Tuesday, I think. Gosh, 27 years married. That's insane! Crazy! No, it's nine years married.

Nine years married. Holy smokes. That means we're getting old.

“And now, nine years married is the long time.”

Dude, you know what? I was looking at our wedding pictures the other day. Yeah? We were so small. Oh, we were baby.

Oh, baby, we got married when we were babies. Who? Who in their right mind agreed to that? Who in their right mind said, yeah, let's let these two children get married. As soon as you turn 18, I guess you can technically do whatever you want.

These. And we said, hey, let's go get married. We sure did. Yep, nine year anniversary. That's about it.

I did easy, Daisy Sick. Not sure what but she hasn't been feeling good. So she's just chilling. But she'll be okay. She's slept like in my neck.

Book of my neck last night. That's how I knew she was sick. Or girl. I'm gonna get riding to 10 seconds. I need a hot take for my 10 seconds today.

Yeah, take my hand. Take my hand. Yeah, do it. Why? I'll show you.

I'm your hot take. What? There's those four of you. That was good. You're done.

You're cute, babe. I thought you were gonna like do something. Like pull your finger? Yeah. Okay.

All right, I have a hot take. I don't know if it's a hot take. You might make some people mad. I want to start with saying that

this city, my bagel shop is amazing.

They've been great. Like I got everything done really, really fast. And I appreciate it. Like when I say fast, like fast. Like permits were approved within weeks.

That's unheard of.

“I feel like I think, oh, man, I want to make some people mad.”

Because I know some of you probably work for a city. I think anything that has to do with permits in building. I don't think I can say it out loud. I'm gonna get canceled. What?

I think I think it should all, I think it should just not exist. Like I think they should all be, I want to say fired. There's other jobs in the city. But anything to do with like cities getting permits approved. To build something, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yadda.

I think that it should all be done just via software. Like automatic, like you upload and there's this parameters. And intelligence that automatically knows what needs to be approved and not approved. And it's done like that. If it's rejected, it comes back to you.

You fix, we need to fix upload again. And with like 24 hours, the systems can automatically detect what needs to be done and not done. Instead of, I mean, look, there's some cities out there where you submit a permit. You don't hear back for like six months. I'm sure every contractor, anyone that builds anything is like, yes.

Like this is ridiculous. I think. So I just think it's ridiculous. It's 2006. We have the technology and we have the ability.

I know the software exists. I just know majority of it is cities don't want to adopt it because I'm going to get some people to lose jobs. But it's also hard because you have people literally waiting months and months for a permit. Sorry.

This one kind of makes me mad because luckily the city I'm with, they were amazing.

And they were super helpful. And again, it happened within weeks. But I have multiple friends.

I mean, there's some places where it takes like a year to get a permit. Anyways, that's my hot take.

“Do you have something you want to say to me about it?”

Let me know. I'm open to it. I know. Two things. Yes.

If a job is not efficient. Yeah. Where everyone around them, the job deserves to be changed. Correct. Number one.

Yeah. So I don't think that that's that hard of a take. Come number two, I don't think like you work for the government. You work on a different timeline. If you work for a state, you work on a different timeline all the way down.

If you work with a city, you're working on a different timeline than everyone else in America. For sure. And I think it's unfair. People probably can disagree with this by just true. I don't think that that is like necessarily a bad thing.

There's probably parameters and things that have made it that way. But I think we can all agree that most entities that belong to are inefficient. Yes, like it's a really-- They haven't progressed the way the rest of the world has on the timeline, the rest of the world has. Like as far as business, everything moves super quick, super fast.

It's always about efficiency and we have some really outdated.

Yeah, and a lot of it, I guess, probably just have to do with the governments and cities and just parameters and yada yada. But I mean, it's like a running joke when you go to a DMV, right? Right, and I mean, some DMVs now in states are actually really well run. And like, they have online technology.

“And that's what I'm saying. There's so many places that are so far behind.”

Like, it should not be taking this long to get a permit. It should not be taking this long to do different things. And again, I'm an exception because I didn't happen to my city, but I know so many people that I think. Yeah, but it's not like we live in that small of a city. So if it's capable in our city to get it done fast,

it should be capable in most cities to get done that fast. Places in California literally will take you 18 months. Which again, just goes back to your program is not efficient. Like, come on. Like, you're not being as efficient as possible, clearly. And I'm not, I think different cities, different counties like we're obviously not in a huge city.

But it's a pretty large city with a lot going on. Yeah, I mean, they got it done. Yeah. Anyways, that's my hot take kind of, I don't know, maybe because I'm even care about that. But if you've ever built something or how to deal with the city,

I'm sure you'll care about it, though. I also don't think efficiency is all technology. I think that programs themselves with human beings running them could be more efficient. Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah.

Like, I don't think technology is always the answer.

No, it doesn't mean to replace more technology. It just needs to speed up things. Yeah.

“Anyways, that's what I got before we hop into two today's episode.”

I want to say real quick that thank you to anyone who listens and watches the podcast, who comes into the bagel shop, thanks for saying hi. I have a problem, okay? I remember everyone's name is Sunni Zutelme. And I'm talking to you and I remember your name when I'm engaged in the conversation.

Sunni Zutelme, that name is gone. And multiple people are like, don't forget my name. So you can shout it out in the next episode. Well, guess what? I forgot your name.

But also, in my defense, I'm also hearing names from 300 other people a day at the same time. Anyways, literally I had multiple people. I'm like, oh, I'm going to remember your name and shout you out. Nope, any names of mine is your own names. The only name of mine right now is Peyton.

No other names. So anyway, sorry. That's it. I love you. Thank you for coming in.

Thank you for saying hi. If you came in and I was busy, I'm also really sorry. But I love you. And let's hop into today's case. Our sources for this episode are oxygen,

the CBS news, coco.com, K2UL.com, okay, cfox.com, medium.com, near post.com, people.com, KFOR.com, MamaMea.com, news9.com, the cinema hallic, and Wilson Little.com. I think one of the most powerful extra sensory skills that I've ever seen is a mother's

blind intuition. Everyone talks about it. It's like moms have this divine spiritual entanglement to their children.

They always seem to know when something is off.

When your energy has shifted, sometimes they call right at the second you need the most. Other times it's like they can predict when something is about to go wrong. And I know that's not the case for every mother. But it is enough case that has become a stereotype. But it's also not every day that a mother's intuition solves a disappearance.

After Michaela Mayave went missing in 2023, her mother decided she wasn't going to sleep until she found her daughter and thanks to that motherly intuition or her divine connection to her daughter Michaela, she knew exactly where to find her. And not only was she right, she helped bring justice to a case that might have otherwise gone cold.

So you understand what it's like when everyone knows everyone. Where gossip spreads faster than a virus and everybody's in each other's business.

“But I think the location of today's case might have most places beat.”

Because we're headed to Makome, Oklahoma. We're in the year 2023 when our case takes place. The population is about 20 or people. Oh my gosh, okay. And 30 year old, Michaela Mayave is one of them.

Michaela was a teacher's assistant at Makome Public Schools and was working towards getting her teaching degree at the time. She was also very actively involved with the schools after care

program, but Michaela always knew she wanted this to be her path.

Her mother actually ran a daycare when she was growing up.

“She understood the power of education and nurturing and it was what she wanted to do with her life.”

So it must have been devastating when Michaela learned back in her 20s that she couldn't have children of her own. So instead, as she got older, she fostered and then adopted two teenage kids, a brother and a sister. And she did everything she could to give these kids a loving upbringing. Plus, she shared with them all of the things that always brought her joy. Music, singing, religion, her passion for animals,

Michaela treated her students with the same kind of loving compassion that she treated her to adopted kids. Friends and co-workers said that if a child ever came to school hungry or wearing dirty clothes, Michaela would be the one to help fix it, make things better. And luckily, Michaela wasn't alone in her journey. She was extremely close with her mother and

“two sisters who helped her raise her kids along the way. But then, in old acquaintance,”

actually came back into Michaela's perfect little life. It was someone named Frank Byers. Now, Michaela and Frank had actually gone to high school together back in the day. And sometime before 2022, he sent Michaela a Facebook message and the two of them reconnected. Now, by then, Frank was working for an environmental cleanup company, which meant he spent a lot of time on the road. But when he wasn't working, he was actually still living in the Michaom area. Frank now had four

kids of his own, all young daughters, and ever since his divorce from their mother, he had primary custody. But this wasn't something that deterred Michaela. If anything, it made her fall for Frank even more, especially because Frank told Michaela, his girls had had a rough time in life so far. He said that his most recent girlfriend had been abusing his daughters when he wasn't around, and he was just looking to get out of that situation. So that was when Michaela offered to open

her home to Frank and his four kids. The two start dating. So Michaela and Frank start dating in 2022, and her family of three, her and her adopted two kids now grows to eight. Now, people who knew Michaela said, she seemed happier than ever. This wasn't something everyone would do, but it was something that really worked for her. She loved Frank's kids like they were her own. So it wasn't a surprise in June of 2022 when Michaela and Frank tied the knot. So for the next year,

they lived together on Michaela's 10-acre property, but on September 15th, 2023, their worlds turned upside down. So that morning began like most days in Michaom. Michaela woke up and called

her sister Andrea at 7am. The two were best friends, not only did they speak every day, they basically

knew every detail of each other's lives, or so Andrea thought. It was a Friday. So she and Michaela might have discussed their plans for the weekend. Michaela went to work that morning and came home around her usual time. But she and her sister Andrea didn't speak again for the rest of that night. When Andrea's phone rang the following morning, though, on September 16th, she expected to hear Michaela on the other end of the line again. Only this time, it was Frank, her boyfriend.

And he was wondering if Andrea had seen or spoken to her sister since the night before. And according to Andrea, Frank seemed seriously worried. He was hysterical. She could hardly

make out what he was saying at first. Eventually, she got him to calm down enough to spit it out.

And that's when he said that Michaela had gone on a date the night before, but hadn't made it home yet.

with their kids, she knew Michaela and Frank had recently decided to take a little break from their

“romance. Things hadn't been going super well between them lately. So Andrea's first thought was”

well good. I hope my sister went out and had some fun last night. Maybe she had a little too much fun. Maybe she stayed over at a guy's house. But Frank seems to think it's a lot worse than Michaela just staying out for the night. He tells her sister the last time he saw Michaela was around 530 pm last night that the guy she'd went out with was bald. He had a dark beard. He showed up in a white Chevrolet pickup truck with tinted windows. And Frank says he didn't

speak to the guy himself, but he saw Michaela get into the truck with him and then they drove

off into the sunset. But now, Michaela wasn't answering her phone. She still hadn't made it home.

“Like all of the kids are home. So Andrea, at this point, assumes Frank is just being jealous.”

Like a little jealous and dramatic, which is why after she hangs up, she decides to call her sister herself. Frank was right. Michaela wasn't answering her phone. And in fact, her calls were going straight to voicemail. Coffee in her best form, with the new Cuba One capsule machine from Shibu. In every Cuba capsule, you can check out a lot of coffee from the special animal. For espresso,

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because Michaela had promised to help out a restaurant their family owned that day, but she didn't show up, and this is something that was completely unlike her. So, by that afternoon, her husband Frank called 911, and I'm calling him husband, but they're on a break, apparently, but they're still living in the same home with the kids. What's her name? My name is Michaela. Now, it's about 4 p.m. on the afternoon of the 16th

when police arrive at Michaela's home where Frank and Michaela are living. And with his body cam rolling, the deputy asks 32-year-old Frank to repeat the details he gave the dispatcher over the phone. Now, Frank also gives them more description of the guy he says he saw Michaela leaving with the night before. He was six feet tall, maybe 200 pounds or so. Now, what's interesting is, when Frank is explaining the situation to the deputy, he doesn't exactly tell the deputy that he and

Michaela were on a break. Instead, he says we had actually recently decided to agree to open up their marriage and stay together while also seeing other people. So, they were still living in Michaela's home on the 10 acres in this very, very small town, but they had an open relationship. So, they each would go on dates with other people, but we're still at home raising the kids together. So, this is what he tells the officer. He says to the officer that

Michaela met this particular person that she went on a date with on Facebook, but that's all you really knew about the guy outside of what he looked like in what car he drove. Frank also says that he doesn't really like the arrangement like the open marriage. It was Michaela's idea. He was just willing to do whatever it took to make her happy, to keep her by his side, to keep their marriage intact. Frank admits, though, that right before

she left, he and Michaela had gone into a tip. According to him, she claimed it was none of his

“business where she was going or who she went with. So, that's why he never got a name or more”

details on where her date was that night. But he also offers to show the deputy some messages

from her phone that read, quote, "I'm fine and back off." Okay. Now, to this point, the deputy decides

“it's worth driving around the tiny town to see if he spots Michaela. And one of the first stops he”

makes is at the school where she works. But there's nothing. Meanwhile, back at Frank and Michaela's house, the family is actually starting together. Her mother and sister show up. And one of the

first things her mom Barbara does is she gets down on her hands and knees and starts crawling

inch by inch over the huge property looking for any sign of her daughter. And I'm saying any sign as in foul play, clues, anything she can see. Now, later that evening, deputies are back on the property joining the family in their search of the property. But they're more interested in the inside of Frank and Michaela's home. Particularly, they seem to kind of check out this little shed out back because the police learned that while they were going through this

open marriage, maybe break, maybe trying to figure things out depends on who you ask. Apparently, Michaela had moved into this tiny shed in the back. Now, Frank had told them earlier

“in the day, but when they asked him to open it, he was like, "It's locked and I don't have a key."”

Like, that's her space. But when police return, he smashes open the lock. In this time, he lets police look inside. And right away, police see something alarming. Shell casings belonging to a 22 caliber. But Frank immediately tells them it's not weird. Michaela often sat back here and shot at wild animals from her shed. But that's not even the most alarming detail. I don't, I mean, they're in a small town. I don't know if I find that that weird.

22 is usually not something. I mean, yeah, I don't know. First of all, he's not

fine at that weird. Knowing what, knowing what a 22 is, knowing it's a small town. Like, casual Saturday activity. Yeah, honestly. Like, I want to surprise me if she was out her window,

“like, putting birds or shrink squirrels, not saying you should do that. I'm just saying that.”

That wouldn't spark instant red flags. We shouldn't be like, what? Yeah, exactly. Now, this isn't even the most alarming detail because there also appears to be some blood drops. On the floor and on the sheets of the bed. Now, of course, the next thing police ask is, where's the gun? Like, where is the 22 that those shell casings come from? And Frank says, oh, that's actually back in the main house where I'm staying.

They're like, okay, but you just said she uses it out here. But I mean, it's possible. It's possible. It could have been moved. I guess. So he leads them back, shows them the gun and they realize this gun has been fired recently. There is gunshot residue on the barrel and the breach of the gun where the ammunition is loaded. And it's at this point, the deputies are like, hey, we're going to call for more backup because interesting. While this is still a missing person's case, they have blood.

They have shell casings. They have a gun that's recently been fired. And so they're like, maybe this is a missing person's case, but also a potential homicide. And they need their criminal investigation team out there for more support. So that is where Lieutenant Dakota Black comes in. She is a trained tracker with the Potawatomi County Sheriff's Office nearby in Shawnee, Oklahoma.

So basically, she's the one you call if there's like a man hunt. Her male colleagues at the

Sheriff's Office admit, even there intimidated by Lieutenant Black's skill set and just overall bad A like she can track someone. She knows her way around the wild around the forest, whether she's on the shooting range or out in the field. She's just kind of someone you don't want them bed against. And my favorite part about her might be her trained therapy dog that she brings with her on these investigations because she knows how calming and helpful it can be to the families who are in

the midst of an investigation like this. So she literally brings her dog who is trained to like ease the kitchen. I love animals. I love pets. I mean, I love all animals, but right love them. When Lieutenant Black is called out to look for Michaela that September night, this case hits differently than usual. Not only was she in Michaela born one day apart, so they're the same age. Lieutenant Black admits that she's been in situations of intimate

partner abuse before. So when she shows up and it's like, you know, this boyfriend who's apparently

Maybe more than she cares to admit, but that doesn't mean the police has stopped following other

“leads. Every single white pickup truck matching the description Frank gave is being called”

down to the station to be rolled out. And that might seem extremely good again. We are in a very small town. The family is putting up flyers all over town. Michaela's face is being plastered all over social media. Drones are actually scouring the wooded areas around the area and kayaks traverse the nearby waters looking for signs of a body. And during all of this, like this, pretty intense search for a small town. Frank buyers husband doesn't do a thing.

Lieutenant Black says he never went out with any of the search parties. He didn't really show

any motion at all towards the fact that his wife was still missing. The few things he did do seemed completely performative to her. And mostly, all of this was from the comfort of his own couch. Like, he says, no, I'm still texting and calling Michaela's phone daily, praying she'll pick up. Nice. I'm talking about good job, dude. Also like, I don't know, just like pat yourself on the back for continuing to call when that's like a very normal thing people

go through and your wife's missing. I'm glad you're calling her. And like, like, bragging about it. We got and he posts on Facebook claiming, quote, she means the world to me. She literally is the backbone of our family. I love her deeply. She's a good woman and a great mom. Which is why on day three of the search effort, Lieutenant Black calls Frank in for additional

“questioning, playing the good cop she caters to his filling say I know how upset you must be. And”

his story does stay pretty consistent. Michaela left on the state she never made at home. So without

enough evidence, Lieutenant Black is forced to let him go for now. Though it's around this same time that the police get some information back on Michaela's cell phone data, the report shows her phone last pinged a tower within a three mile radius of her home. Meaning wherever she went with this phone, it likely wasn't far or at least her cell phone didn't travel far. Now, unfortunately, clues were proving really hard to come by in this case. There really wasn't a shred of evidence

showing where Michaela had gone or who she left with during those first few days of the investigation until her mom Barbara shared some pretty shocking details with police. Barbara claims she was

“rolling through the brush on the property around day three of the search when according to her”

she had a premonition. She claims it was like Michaela's voice had appeared in her head and whispered something to her. "Mama, I'm in a tin horn." Now Barbara could sense that whatever this experience was,

it was critical to the investigation. It wasn't just a thought or a theory. She claims this is

mother's intuition. This is divine messaging. A mother's intuition telling her that's where they needed to search. Now, if you don't know, tin horns are those metal or plastic, colvered pipes that you see directing water to flow underneath roads to keep them from flooding. "Is there cooked tin horns?" "Tin horns." And it seemed like there were quite a few of these in the area. So from that point on, Barbara begins checking every single one that she comes across. She tells the

police, but she's also like, "I'm just going to start checking all of the ones in town, specifically waiting through creek beds and canals to see if there's any sign of her daughter." And unfortunately, there isn't until day five of the investigation. Holy crap, let's hear this. Now that afternoon, September 20th, 2023. "Makaila's cousin is out searching for her along with basically the rest of the town." She and a friend are about a half a mile away

from Makaila's house when they are just hit with this horrible smell. And they kind of keep following the scent down a trail, which eventually brings them right to a tin horn and there, along the opening, they see a human hand sticking out of a rolled-up piece of carpet. So they're searching for a body at this point. So they immediately called 911 to say, "Hey, we're pretty sure we just found Makaila." "I always wonder, like putting a body somewhere where

it's eventually going to be found." "Yeah." "You know what I'm saying? Like it's not like it was in the bottom of the ocean. Like are they trying to hide it? Like they put it somewhere where

speak broadly here. If you are the killer, and you hear the Barbara, the mom goes to police and

“says she's in a tin horn." "But you think you move it?" "Like, well, just imagine the like, how”

did she know that?" "Yeah, I don't know, 100%. Yeah." Within minutes, police are there to confirm. Inside that rolled-up carpet is in fact the deceased body of 30-year-old Makaila. She's wearing a red t-shirt, which had intentionally been pulled up over her head to conceal her face. She isn't wearing any pants or underwear, but she still has on one sock with little teddy bears on it. "Oh my God." "She says little details that just go to show light." "I hate it, it's so sad."

"You're just a normal human. You're just a normal, good human." "It's so sad." "And it's clear that she has been shot at least twice in the head before her killer wrapped her up and left her there." "And the bullet was?" "There's more to the story than the bullet." "Let me get there." "We obviously know there's no denying that Makaila's cause of death is the two gunshot wounds her head, but the autopsy reveals more. One in the front and one on the left

side, including a third, which had grazed her head. And from what I could gather, it didn't appear

as though they found evidence of sexual assault. Despite the fact she was dressed that way. But at this point, Lieutenant Black feels pretty sure that she knows who is responsible.

“Not only did police find the gun in the home that matched the bullet wounds?”

"Oh, was it 22?" "Yes." "Dang, I'm wrong." "You didn't think it was." "I just find it unlikely with that type of gun. I mean, obviously possible with any gun." "What's the 22?" "It's like here, I'll show you a picture real quick." "I mean, I should after doing this many cases, probably know what a 22 looks like. I feel like it's like small." "Yeah, so here's like a 22. It's like a lot of times, 22s can be." "Okay, yeah, yeah."

"Yeah, it's like a long rifle, which I mean, yeah, it's possible just like out of all things. It surprises me. I'm pretty sure there is 22s in like certain types of handguns.

The most positive, but I've always known it to be like a rifle."

"I think if we were like in a city, a 22 would seem a little more unlikely to me, but I think

“because we are in country and a lot of people might have rifles in their homes. Maybe it's not”

that weird as a murder weapon." "Yeah, they're just usually, I'm trying to figure out how to use the right words. Like it's..." "Because it's just a caliber bullet, right?" "Yeah, but like a lot of people will use it for like..." "Like multiple guns can be 22 caliber because it's just the type of ammo." "Correct, no, it's just like usually like a rifle. It's 22 is like, like there are obviously dangers because it's a gun, but like a lot of kids or people who are younger will learn to like

shoe rifles of the 22." "What did he want on a Christmas story?" "Well, he had a BB gun." "You wanted a BB gun and they made it that big of a deal?" "Yeah, it was a BB gun. I'm pretty sure it's a BB gun." "Probably." "Yeah, and he's like..." "You'll shoot your eye out." "Yeah." "But I'm just like a BB gun in my hometown. There were four year olds carrying BB guns around all day long." "It's crazy." "I had a pink. I had a paintball gun." "Really?" "Yeah." "That's crazy." "So the bullet wounds match

that caliber of gun." "And Lieutenant Black has also been speaking to the family a little bit more just trying to learn more about Michaela in the last, you know, five-ish days. And the family of all kind of told her a lot of what Frank has been saying to the police when like the family learns what he's been saying seems like a lie. Turns out, according to her family, there was no open

relationship between Frank and Michaela. Michaela, they think never would have agreed to do something

like that, especially because they said it was actually Frank's affairs that led to this break or separation in the first place. In fact, Michaela had already spoken to Frank about getting divorce, according to her family. She didn't want to stay with him and keep their arrangement flexible, she wanted out. And the one thing that kept her on the same property as Frank were his daughters, who she loved and cared for. And also this infidelity was nothing new, by the way.

Michaela had learned that Frank started cheating on her almost right after they moved in together. Whenever he would go out of town for work, he would fire up the old dating apps and meet some locals. So about three months before her death, running her family, Michaela finally packed a bag and went to her sister's house for a week. But she felt she needed to go back to the house eventually for Frank's girls. And that's when she decided to move to the shed so she could still be a part

of the family. Maybe see if they could like work on things after this week break, but according to

You know, it's kind of funny, the amount of people who will be like, oh yeah, we're in an open relationship.

“And then you learn more about it. And it's like, no. Yeah. No, we never were in an open relationship.”

Yeah. Anyways. Now, she actually recorded their conversation.

And so we have like actual quotes of this. She said, I've never once been dead set for divorce

until today. I'm just saying that you have officially lost me. I'm stating to you right now that you have officially broke the last string that was holding me to you. And you have nobody to blame but yourself or doing it. And then by the weekend, Michaela was dead. That's insane, dude. What an absolute monster. Which sounds a lot different than we had in open relationship. It's just such an ego. It's just, if I can't have you, no one can. Yeah, I hate that. I hate when that happens.

Now, you know what? Frank didn't miss a beat. He texted one of the women. He was talking to almost immediately after Michaela went missing. He even sent a picture to a woman in his tuck saying this is one that he'd gotten from Michaela's funeral. Keep in mind, this was like before her body was fat. So this gets lieutenant black and her colleagues wondering, what was the relationship really like with this woman that he's talking to? This is his ex-girlfriend. If you

“remember, this is the one he said was abusive toward him. And his younger girls, the one he told”

Michaela he needed to escape from when they first got together and that was like part of the

reason he moved in so fast. They look her up. Her name is Crystal and the more she talks to police, the more they realize, wow. Frank is a pretty manipulative guy. Because Crystal said, Frank was abusive towards her, not the other way around. She said one time she woke up from a deep sleep to find Frank standing over her with handcuffs. There was another time when he was choking her in her sleep. And he controlled her every move, tried to cut her off from her own friends and

family. It was just kind of textbook behavior. Now, shockingly, she said early on in their relationship. He used the same woe is me story to get her in his clutches. He told Crystal the woman he was currently seeing was abusing him in his daughters and he needed to get out for safety.

“Apparently, this is like his pattern. She never reported the incident, but she was able to walk away”

from the situation with her life. But Michaela never seemed to tell anyone her full experience either.

Her mother Barbara really appeared to beat herself up over this. She admitted there were times when she did see bruises on Michaela or maybe since there was some manipulation happening in the marriage that was kind of toxic. But Michaela never admitted to it. And she would just say things like she was rough housing with the kids. It wasn't until later looking back on the situation. She is now dead that her family was like maybe there's more to the story here. But now that the entire

town knew the unspoken truth that Frank buyers was basically suspect number one, everyone was turning against him. When Michaela's school that she worked for held a vigil for her, Frank was banned from attending. People even blocked his view with their trucks to make sure he couldn't like view from afar. But Frank couldn't seem to keep his mouth shut about this case. He kept going on social media, defending himself and assisting his innocent truth would reveal itself in time.

He went on the local news at one point and said this quote. Even today, I'd call her. I mean, I know she's not here. But it's the fact that I have a number still in her phone still on somewhere. And it would have been nice to say her voice. He's just like, really, he thinks I'll call. What a weird guy. The most sacrificial thing a man can do for a woman is call her phone. So he says it's just, it would have been nice to hear her voice. So as you can imagine, there were a

lot of people close to the case. We're getting frustrated with the lack of progress. So like, hey, everyone knows who did it. Like, everyone knows he's out there living his life. I mean, actually, yeah, I mean, if the bullet matches the gun, like, what else, or matches, it would us to, I mean, okay. So to be fairly tentant, black was annoyed by this to the problem was, even though everyone felt like Frank was guilty, they just didn't feel like they had enough to make

an arrest. I mean, it's not even a match. It's a match of the, like, the type of, you know, so that was not. That was a boy. Right. Yeah. That wasn't until detectives uncovered something inside Frank and Makila's home while executing his search warrant, that October. So the first thing they find was some security footage that was also saved on an app on Frank's phone. Now, police think Frank tried to delete the footage, but didn't realize that he was unsuccessful because on that

around her usual time, she comes through the front door. She stays for 14 minutes. During this, it looks like she and Frank are arguing, and then Makila leaves. And Frank is seeing standing at the door like he's going to follow her. Now, the police think this wasn't the moment Makila got in the car on a date with another man. Instead, they believe Frank actually followed her out back to the shed, or she was staying. So she didn't even go on it. And then killed her. She went out

back to the shed. He followed her and killed her in her shed in cold blood. Now, from there, the evidence kept mounting because police discovered that Makila's cell phone, the missing cell phone that he keeps calling was actually still inside the family home hidden in a drawer. You've got to be you're lying. Also, the SIM card had been removed. This random man who took her on a date broke

“back into the home, remove the SIM card. Honestly, it just goes to show how dumb this guy is. Also,”

it's like an absolute just this idiot. What an idiot. What an idiot. So the SIM card was removed and put into a different phone. And the reason for this was, you could then get into it without a passcode. Yeah. Then he was using it to fake the conversation he allegedly had with Makila, the night she disappeared when she went on her date. Got it. The one where she messaged him saying, I'm fine, back off. By the way, around the same time, might I add that these texts were coming in

from the phone that's in a different SIM from the SIM card that's now in a different phone in the house. Frank was texting another woman with his own phone saying, quote, I'm not getting back with Makila. I'm willing to do anything and everything I possibly can to make sure you are secure in this. He's sending a text to a woman after he just killed his wife. Wow, faking these messages.

“Yeah. But there's more. We have a Walmart receipt that is found from a purchase made the”

day Makila went missing, a mop, bleach, ammonia, everything you would need to clean up a crime scene. And Frank was caught on security footage at the Walmart making this purchase. And then you have

the carpet, the one Makila's body was found in. You know, you could always kind of Walmart for security

footage. The police ask around about this carpet and neighbor comes forward. They say, that's the same one I gave to Makila and Frank for their dogs eight or nine months ago. So we know it was in their their property. But let's talk about the bullet, the one that raised Makila's head. That was actually found in the wall of the shed. Makila was staying and still wrapped in her hair, which basically confirms that the shooting happened in their not on a date

with her random guy. They weren't able to get DNA confirmation on the hair, but they did find

“their smoking gun somewhere else. Frank's work boots had been collected as evidence the night”

he filed the missing person's report. Initially, they spotted something on them. They believed could be blood, but they also knew that Frank worked with chemicals. 38 days after Makila was last seen alive. Police got results back. The substance on the boots was blood and it was Makila's DNA. On October 24th, 2023, 39 days after Makila was last seen a swat team surrounded Frank's home.

He was placed under arrest and later charged with first degree murder, unauthorized removal

of a dead body and desecration of a human corpse. The district attorney really wanted the death penalty for Frank, but the defense proposed a deal, plead guilty and serve life without parole. Instead, and that is what 34 year old Frank did on January 31st, 2025, he pleaded guilty to his crimes. But Makila's family was far from satisfied with this outcome. Her mother Barbara said she thought the deal was a total cop out and just as hadn't been served. Because she and others think,

Frank didn't do this alone. Barbara does not believe that Frank had the strength to move the body into his truck by himself. In fact, she's going to go to her grave saying there was a complice. I mean, I don't doubt that at all. And as for Lieutenant Black, she's not ruling it out either.

She's like, yes, moving this body would have been pretty tough, but people do pretty incredible

things when they're scared and they have adrenaline. Yeah, that hurts true too. Uh-huh. But if there's one thing we've learned from this story, it's that Barbara's instincts have been right before. So they could be right about this too. If you have any tips or information regarding Makila's case, you can contact the Sheriff's Office at 405-273-1727. And in the meantime, Barbara's chosen to reframe the way Makila's remembered. She is sent started a foundation

in her daughter's name called Makila's Purple Butterfly to help people get out of situations

you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233. And that is the story of

“Makila Maeve. Once again, I feel like this just happened last week. You never know somebody.”

It's the fact that you can be married to someone who kills someone.

And like be texting a woman at the time. Sorry, not kill someone. Kill you.

“It's the weirdest cognitive dissonance. People really not show signs or is it just that”

I don't know. I mean, he seemed to kind of have a pattern with this. Yeah. The behavior.

That's horrible. Orable. All right, you guys. Thank you for listening to this week's episode or watching. And we will see you next time with another one. I love it. And I hate it. Bye.