Episode 471 | Somebody Lying

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We're not. Welcome back top of the week who's excited man. Ready to throw any of the tackle. Me tackle the week. So excited.

It's going to be a great week. Great week, Roy. Got to set the tone. See Monday's a spot of Monday. You set the tone.

Yeah. Set the tone for the week on Mondays. I feel that.

“And we actually have an event on Saturday.”

Yes, you do week. Just go week. Great week. Do you want to plug it?

I'm always bad at plugging things.

Listen, let me, let me help you. We're doing a pop up, Roy. Yes. We're popping up at Cafe Colmada this Saturday in the city New York City. We have some merch that will be selling that cafe Colmada and we will be having exclusive

drinks that we will create. Yes. For ourselves, I'll have a drink and you'll have a drink that the people in New York City or surrounding areas want to come out and come kick with us for few hours at Cafe Colmada. Okay.

Do I need to submit my recipe? Or are they going to handle my drink? Um, no, you can submit one. Okay. Yeah.

You can submit one. Just got to make it. Don't make it nothing too crazy though. Yeah, I just don't want to run into a non alcoholic thing. I've caught no.

The cafe. No, I'm trying to think of what my. I just think of a flat white would just be a funny ironic flat white. I was definitely a flat white. A flat white drink.

Yeah. I don't want to run into like a curb here in Thuzie as a moment. When Larry went to the sandwich shop and they named the sandwich after him. And it was like three different types of fish and cream cheese. And try to switch the sandwich like I don't.

I didn't prove. Yeah. Just give me a turkey sandwich. Yeah. Keep it cute.

Let's keep it simple. Yeah. Flat white. Maybe some ginger in there or something like that. Okay.

Yeah. No, I'm mixed it up. Yeah. I still can't get a babysitter. So it may be a.

The reveal party again. If I've already once.

Are you trying to get a babysitter?

“It's everyone is out of town for something.”

This week. Yeah. I don't know. Just every one of my family is not available. But it really.

A mara might be there serving drinks. It's about time. She got a job because her daycare is. It's really kicking my ass right now. Yeah.

To the point that I looked at the JZ tickets. And now my kid got to eat. Yeah. What's it? I thought about it.

Yeah. I made the right decision. But don't think that I was about to pull that trigger. Yeah. I mean, she could do dyno nuggets for a month.

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This Saturday of. What's this? It's a 28 right? Yeah. Yes.

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We'll be there. Yeah. I mean, I have some music. Some drinks.

“Just kick it with the people for a couple hours.”

Should we. Should we test test out Ryan skills? On Ryan's resume. He said. I don't know.

Ryan played something. What was that he played last week? He didn't even have a hip pop. He got it to like some some alternative. He's been working on the hip pop.

See, not on on. We're not going to be the guinea pigs for the hip pop set. We can't do that. Oh, my gosh. So I'm scared already, man.

Hip operas to him would kneel so as to jack. Yeah. We're not doing it. We're not doing it. We're not doing it.

And it's not because he's from the Bay. So it's got to be like Santa Monica's the name of his like set. Like. He's got to have a set name. Santa Monica's educated.

Like Pelican Bay or some shit like that. Maybe. Yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see what Ryan has for us. Either either you on DJ Alcatraz.

Yeah. DJ DJ. DJ Bay. Something like that. You know.

DJ. What's your DJ name, right? Oh, God. Yeah, just as a name. Yeah.

I know what you're supposed to DJ was. Just a name. Yeah. You got to be. You got to be DJ Golden Gate or something.

DJ DJ easy way out. Yeah. Usually. Because that's who dark. I'm sorry.

Oh, man. The high percentage. That bridge in particular. I don't know why. Either way, it's going to be great.

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Yep. And we are back. Sponsored by a boost. I don't know if you've noticed within the first four minutes. Um, but more than I've been batting a thousand in our

Demaris predictions. And she's not here. Y'all don't listen to me enough. Like, this is my problem with everybody in this room. Even though it's only four of us in here.

Y'all don't listen to me. I told y'all on last week. I said, there's no way Demaris is coming in here on Monday. Everybody kind of like, nah, she'll be here. Demaris is like, what?

No, I'll be here. I'm like, Demaris. Nobody leaves Houston.

The day they said they're going to leave is always something

that pushes by low and behold planes crash ice agents on now. TSA agents. Yeah. Yeah. All kind of things going anything but Demaris making it here with us today.

And it's, it's, what's quite annoying about the entire thing is condolences to, to the people that passed in the, uh, yes. Excellent this morning. Adam at LaGuardia that that is, is very, very upsetting. That a minor mistake could lead to that.

I just feel like Demaris wasn't going to make it anyways. And finally found like a teflon excuse that we can't say anything to her. Right. Because that didn't fact happen in the airport. A Newark airport called on fire.

Some shit. It's a mess. Yeah.

“But I think either way she wasn't making that flood.”

No, she wasn't going to be there. She saw that cancellation was like fuck yeah. Mm-hmm. After people pay. That just added to it.

That just added to the cancellation. Yeah. But I mean, I wasn't her close friends over the weekend. She permanently removed you, right? No, it was there. Okay.

Um, I'm going to wait for her to come back. But I think we can implement the baby D challenge. I'd like to give you guys more details. But it would be way more fun when Demaris is actually here. If you thought planking was a craze.

Wait till the baby D challenge hits the streets. I already, I already did it at the playground. What's the baby D challenge? Just laying down on the machine is on lay down on it. It's laying down on it.

You like scare places that you shouldn't be laying down on it. Yeah, because it was a yoga match. She was laying on a yoga mat, I think. I mean, how flip flops are right there. So I just, you know, I thought she was doing a little downward dog.

You know what I hear you? I already had um, I already had a Mara get started on the baby D challenge,

which I can't wait to pitch this tour when ever she does finally come back.

But yeah, I had a Mara laying on playground equipment in the same way baby D was. Yeah. So we're going to pop it down. Just the lay down. That's all.

But I mean, should we, should we call her? I feel like she probably just went to another day party. Or she's currently trying to get back to New York. I don't believe her. Are we going to face time with audio?

We'll do audio. Okay. Because who knows where she is and I'm sure she's. But that's why I wanted to face time like you'll turn your phone around.

Let's see if she even answers.

Yeah. Where are you at? Air for it. Yeah. We were courts today.

We were courts today. This is recording. I'm sure you do. So you're at like. Loguardia, should we wait?

Loguardia, but burn down. Like or whatever. That was weird. Loguardia burned it down.

“So that means you're at JFK when you say you're at the airport.”

So like you'll be here like what? Like 45 hour. We can wait. All right. Really mean.

Hello. Now right now. Hello. My bracket fucked up.

I'm in this airport for three hours.

My bracket fucked up. I want to hold. You asked Syracuse winning and they wasn't even in the toilet. Last Syracuse win. You know what?

You know what? Woo. Oh, man. How are you feeling? Are you all right?

You scared? I'm scared. I don't know. Is the ice age just at TSA? It is.

There are, but I think I'm American. Okay. All right. So you want to bus? Yeah.

But they're all over the place. And they're playing too. And anybody who look like they shouldn't be flying. They're around. They're doing two jobs.

That won't pass. Yes. This is the America I voted for. More literally. Not right now.

Like. And she is no fucking game. I'm so bad for these people. I just something about ice catching and illegal immigrant going through like clear. It's funny to me.

I shouldn't like laugh at that. Which is the thought that you could be an illegal alien and also have clear and pre-check is fucking funny. Oh. It's fucking insane.

Bro. Like when that text was just came through to my flight. I can't feel it. And I was in a strip club. I just took a shot.

We're here now. So I'm shocked.

“Because I think you said your flights tomorrow night.”

I would have just given up. I would have just given up. I would have given up and went back to strip club. No. Because I know we have to.

We're supposed to be recording tomorrow. We already moved that. Yeah. We're. To the regular schedule because you're not going to be here.

We were doing that for you. I know. I will be here. I'll be here. I'll be here.

I'll be here. I'll be here. I'll be here. I'll be here. I'll be here.

Oh. You land tonight. Yeah. I'll get your flight was tomorrow at 6.30. It's opening up at 2 PM today.

I want to go home. All right. Can you tell us? I was in your close friends over the weekend. So this is P.J. Mall.

Thank God. Mm. A lot of ass. What's there? A lot of ass.

I've seen a lot of ass. I don't want to be too horny on this pod. But I did see a lot of good. A lot of good. A lot of good.

Ariel ratio. What? I didn't see that. one someone out of see through shared on I was like I would expect a bigger area. Oh, no

No, so tell us about burgers and bottles what give us a plate of light bottles amazing a very

part of them sell us $2500 in the city that is not yours for a party voting done once before very very proud of of all of us and I'm getting get a ball. It was amazing when I put out a hash. It was fun. That's early. Are you comfortable with me implementing the baby D challenge to the world? Oh, shut up. Sure. Why not? Are you comfortable with that? It's simply fine with it. Can that be the artwork for this episode of you laying on the roof?

There. Why not be fodder for this podcast once again? Sure. How about how did you end up on that roof? I went up there to talk on a phone and then I've got sleepy so I laid there. And no one would just let me there. They took videos obviously, but they left me there. Okay. Yeah, I figured you want to see the sunrise. We went to the roof. We talked on a phone. Actually beautiful. I had a ball. You know, I should have came. Y'all are those those.

No, we don't. We don't be trapped. Yeah, I'm come cool.

“That's what they used to think. They got podcast duty over here, mushings that I'll shut up.”

Well, we wish you the best of my rest. Oh, thank you. I'm really sad that I can't be at work. I'm really, really, really tried hard to give it work. I hear you. Well, like I was going to ask you to push for a court in today, like the court to be later, but I didn't. I'm like, did I? I'm not 18. I'm going to pull the podcast. Yeah, I'm not. I figured.

But we wish you safe travels, enjoy the airport, and maybe we'll see you here tonight. Because if you, hey, if anybody listening, anybody out there can hear me, if you don't have to fucking fly for a funeral, actually if you're already dead already, if you don't have to fly, so like the birth of the baby or something, do not fucking fly, bro. I was in this airport for two and a half hours in line. Do not fly, just let people know. I like the PSA.

And before I let you go, I just want to let you know there is no jakehold protectors in the room today.

Crazy. That's crazy.

This could go off the rails because there's nobody here from dreamville or what a cold stand school.

“I think you're pretty thrilled. Thank you.”

Hello. I don't know about the PSA from TSA. I don't know about it. She said that she's the hotel lobby. 100%. Nobody tells you you're pretty at the airport. That's somebody that works at the hotel to tell you that.

It's not just still at the ship club. Houston, they do brunch there on Monday mornings. Some people work out there. They bring their laptops, it's like Starbucks. Yeah, we told them that she wasn't coming. Do we start with...

Of course we do. I'm joking, I don't know. I'm nervous. What you're nervous for? I'm just nervous.

Why? These are just touchy subjects and trying times. And we don't have to touchy subject? Yes. Okay.

And we don't have to marise here to real things back from someone that is such a jakehold protector. I feel like I'm a jakehold supporter. I wouldn't call myself a protector. I'm a supporter as well. But I'm a supporter.

So I'm a... I want to start by saying shout-out to Nadeska.

I know it's not the first time that she's interviewed Cole.

But interviewing someone that is now a legend and at goat status at this point in their career is like journalism, checklist, bucket list, shit. You got to interview J. Cole after his alleged last album Double Disc in his childhood home. Amazing, Nadeska. You're smoking this year.

Love the baby came interview as well. If Nadeska's not fucking number three on the complex list this year, I don't really know what we're doing. With that said, what did you think? I don't think she challenged him a lot on things he was saying. I don't think she pushed back a lot on things he was saying.

I don't think she pushed back a lot. It was more so like just a cool calm, which is just a space for that too.

“But I think coming up with everything that happened and this being the first time Cole spoke.”

I think it would have been better for him to sit down with somebody that was going to challenge him a little bit more on his responses to things.

A lot of the things that he was saying, you know, understood. I don't believe that he had that type of conversation with himself when he was talking from both perspectives of what he was thinking, what he was saying to himself, I don't believe none of that. I think a lot of that was things that he probably just made up on his spot or just made up on the way there. I don't believe that.

Yeah, I don't believe that. That's unfair to just assume that if somebody like I'm just saying I don't believe I'm telling you. Cole was like a known fucking liar. I mean, I'm not saying he was lying on it. I just think that he had to make something up to make it sound more enticing than what it was.

Like I think that it was like okay. Well, it's playing more. What parts of what he said with that back and forth, did you feel like we're performative? Um, I just don't think that, you know, before the apology all of that, I don't think that he had this big talk back and forth for himself. I just think that he had a conversation with Kendrick and that's, you know, somebody he deems as a friend.

And then he just was like, I don't do the conversation. He probably told Kendrick that he was going to apologize publicly for what he said in his record. And I think that's it. I don't think that he battled with himself back and forth with emotions and things like that. I don't think it was that deep.

I truly don't think it was that deep for. I mean, it was a simple conversation. Time between. Might delete later and dream, though, fast. I can see him going back and forth in that small amount of time,

especially after everyone conversation with Kendrick, if that is indeed true. Yeah, I can see him pacing in his trailer before dream, though, fast thinking about that entire thing. I don't think so. I mean, he said he only spoke to his wife about it. No, no, no.

“Yeah, I can see you battling like, is am I making the right fucking choice?”

I do believe he went back and forth a lot and probably had some. Exactly. The way we joke based off the Drake line coes losing sleep is not me. I believe that he was, I really do believe that he was going back and forth and felt fucked up about it. Do you think that this interview helps his perception or hurts it?

Um, neither. And I neither. I also, yeah, I don't think it does. But good or bad in the situation where I'm going to give you pushback is where I, you're saying the desk I didn't give pushback.

I may agree with you if we now know that coal isn't doing the camera on interview.

But we know Tuesday night, 10 PM. There will be a camera on and Jay Cole interview. And we've already seen clips where Kim was maybe asking some of the questions that we wanted to hear as in regards to the beef. I don't think going into Nadeska was safe.

I just think from an artist perspective, you just put out a double disc and I'd rather go sit with a journalist that's going to ask me questions about the music and the album first.

I myself included halfway through it. I had that on my brain too of like when we're going to get to all the shit we want to know about the battle. But to me, that's super unfair to have an artist want to go and do an interview right away. That's going to be about some of the more messy stuff. After you just put out fucking like 30 records, like including your mixed tape.

But even today, I didn't go up and look. I certainly think they did as far as the journey of it.

“I think I think the desk I asked the right questions for what the music was and what the purpose of that interview was.”

I wouldn't put her in the Zane category where you're just calling someone a genius their entire interview. I think she asked plenty of questions that Jay Cole fans want to hear. I think that's missing now within journalism media, not just hip-hop, because though I'd go to political news. It's even worse. I think for the music fans, people wanted to hear Cole's process of that project.

I think we're old that as music nerds. Now, if he didn't do the cam shit, I'd probably have some of the more sentiments of you. That would save. Don't act like we don't need answers as fans about that other shit. I think he's doing the balance.

Let me talk about my album when the desk got in a safe place. And let me go through the bullshit with him. And I mean bullshit in a good way. That one's a real music journalist. One is an incredible media personality and legendary rapper.

I'll go talk about the battle stuff with him. Cance funny. Cance messy. That'll be the place where everyone can't say, "Oh, this is safe."

Because cance never going to be safe.

“Well, that's why I was speaking just to the desk interview that it was that was safe.”

That choice was safe. Now, obviously, we haven't heard the cam interview yet. It's safe to assume that cam may ask more questions from a rapper's perspective. And from a battle perspective, cam being somebody that has battled and been in battles himself. So I mean, we may get a little more details and end up there.

But yeah, I mean, you know, I think that co, you know, obviously, to me, I do feel like, you know, things that he was saying in the desk interview. I do feel like it was a lot of things that he had to kind of just create because he had to make it more interesting. I don't think that there was much thought about anything. Like I said, I think he had a conversation with Kendrick.

And I think they said whatever they said, and he came out of that sandwich. I'm going to go on stage and apologize. And it's not going to be no more shots from my side coming at you.

And they said, I think it was really that simple.

I don't think it was this, you know, pacing back and forth with emotions. And it's that I don't think it was that deep. I think, because again, he responded with my delay later on seven minutes real. Which I started answer off to you. I just want to make sure co fans, can you please give more his flowers?

Because everything y'all killed him for coal admitted in that interview about having to change the entire project. He said, my delay later was already slated for when it was going to come out. They just added seven minutes real. It was supposed to come out with dreambofest. And then eight weeks later, we were putting out the fall off.

And you came in here and said, I think he has to redo the whole album now. And that's exactly what Cole said. He said, I was slated ago eight weeks later. I had to redo it. But I don't know how people even thought that that wasn't like you.

Anybody that any artist that was in that moment, Kendrick Drake and Cole, anything that they had planned musically. Of course, it has to change after that. Like everything changes after that moment. So, you know, people killing me. It's like again, people react off, you know, their emotions and their support of the artist that they love.

Which is cool. I support Cole. I just don't react emotionally when it comes to certain things that I think are common sense. Like, yes, he would have to make changes to his schedule, to his plans, to his music. Coming off of that moment.

I thought that that was obvious. But again, you know, if I say something, it's shut the fuck up more. You don't know what to tell my cool. I'll shut the fuck up.

“But then when the artist himself says that that's what happened.”

Don't give me no flowers. I don't want no flowers. Yeah, I just know that I'm correct in what I was saying. Yes, Cole had to adjust and he had the pivot. He had to call it audible musically.

Yeah. Because everything in that moment changed songs that he had with certain artists. He, of course, knew now he no longer has those records. What if he had double disc? No.

No. So, but it was songs that he had with Kendrick, with Drake that obviously he wouldn't have. He wouldn't get cleared for the album. So now things, you have to fill those moments, fill those gaps that are now there that

So yes, you have to make changes. But I mean, I'm just, you know, it's cool to see Cole sitting down and just talking and kicking it in again. I know, you know, a lot happened in 2024, you know, things were said and, you know, somehow the internet turned into this malls, the J. Cole haters.

I don't hate J. Cole. I don't know J. Cole to hate them. I just hate the way he handled the rap battle. That's all.

“Yeah, and I mean, I think you should go back to the interview.”

Because I mean, the desk is an actual journalist. She's not like a neanderthal with a microphone like me. But she did an actual proper interview that people used to do with artists when we were looking for music questions. And where you're at in your life questions instead of the gossip shit.

So again, I think she didn't incredible job with it.

Same way she did with the team interview. I'm excited to see the cam interview. I mean, cool. Same. There's one clip out where cam asked the question.

We all wanted to know like wish your relationship with them. Which the desk did ask by the way. But Cole kind of, I say, tiptoed around it. He just didn't give a full answer the way he did with cam in this clip. Where he said, you know, they spoke around that time.

But haven't sense. And he would love to text them. Um, yeah.

“And again, him, you know, cam asking on where this is relationship with Kendrick and Drake today.”

You know, and this is, we're just talking from the clip. We haven't, we were recording this on Monday. The episode with him again doesn't come out until Tuesday. Um, but I hope he really gives gets more in debt with that though. Because I, I said it a couple, a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago, whatever.

That he, I feel like he has to address why he hasn't spoken to Drake since all that happened. And, and, and, you know, people like, oh, you know, more you two invested in, you know, they, they told, oh, y'all still talking about the battle. Well, the people that was in the battle were still talking about the battle. So, you know, this is what people kill us were talking about this.

But the people involved, well, and obviously we'll call.

He still told him, I, this is his first time speaking about it.

So, yes, we have to speak about it. But that is something that I feel like, like how you said about the music and us and about that process. I do feel like as fans of all of these guys and, and, and, and, you know, consumers of hip hop and, you know, consuming the moment of one of the biggest battles ever. I do feel like we need to know why Cole has not spoke to Drake.

He said in this clip, he'd be wanting to text and all of that. So, then why not do that? Like, I don't even understand that. Like, that's like when somebody, nobody did something fucked up to you. And then they know how you, you fill up a type of way. And then they'd like damn, I want to highlight them.

But okay, shouldn't highlight them. So, just because I know how the timeline works and people don't actually listen to words. They just react to their own thoughts and how the interpret things. It was kind of, it was vague. When Cole says, we've spoken after everything, but it, it's not been much medication.

“Is he talking about Cole has not spoken to Drake since not like those kids since before not like those came up?”

Okay, because he's saying in this clip, I wasn't sure if he was saying after the dream though fest incident, or after the battle when he said he's spoken to both of them, but it hasn't been much. I don't, you're asking me. I'm only asking for what I know. I don't know a thing.

I'm only asking for what I know. I want it to be extremely clear. Okay, Cole said in this camera on clip, he is saying that they spoke, I don't know what after everything means. I don't know what means dream though fest. I don't know what means after not like us.

I don't know what that means. Okay, so let me tell you from what I know. Cole has not spoken to Drake since before dream fest. Okay. From what I know, from what you know, got you.

Right? That's all I'm saying. From what I know, he has not spoken to him. Now, whether he shot a text after that and a text when I responded, got you. I don't know about that.

I know he hasn't spoken to Drake since before he apologized. Yeah. Which Drake was slated to go to dream fest and perform. Things like that, fresh off a tour.

First person shooter was number one.

The third obviously we can't perform that record anymore. Gonna be a moment. But we can't perform the record. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like we're just going on.

Like you're saying big three in the record and it's that the third. You name and him in the record. So things, obviously things change. But my thing is, cool. You know that Drake fills away, right?

You know, Kendrick fills away. You spoke to Kendrick. But why not? And I don't know if he spoke to Kendrick. He's been in studios with TDE affiliates and things like that since post beef.

So I don't know if he's, I don't know about that side. I'm speaking to his, his, his not speaking to Drake. And again, I just feel like and we haven't seen this interview. Maybe he gets more in depth aside from this clip that we saw. I just feel like we need to really know why haven't you spoken to.

I'm going to make it my business to get in front of you and have a conversation because we have a real relationship.

And if I do something like that and I handle something, I know that you look slighted or you fill away. And I shoot you a text and you're not responding. I'm going to do whatever I need to do to make sure that me and you are in the same room when we have a conversation. Yeah, which I mean, maybe speaks to the rumor that future. Flood to go meet with Drake.

So they could solve their differences with everything that was going on. I hear you on that, but I mean, even what Cole was saying in this and again, we're just speculating because it's a. Yeah, we didn't see that interview. We didn't see the way more content. We could get way more in depth.

Yeah, we don't know. I mean, he is saying that like. I do feel him as some degree like he made a decision for himself that he said in the desk interview. He feels even better about today. It brought more peace to his life.

Unfortunately, that may have slided one of his, his friend may feel away. But he's saying like he doesn't know. I, I see that perspective of like, I don't want to overstep.

Like, you're not fucking with me.

I don't want to be blowing a phone up of like, yeah. Like, it's just, this is an overkill. I hear you. I do what you said, but I can definitely see the perspective of like, I don't really know where I stand with you anymore.

And I don't want to like make it worse by trying to overly communicate with you at this regard.

“I mean, I get that, but again, even in that, right?”

And again, we don't, we don't even see the whole interview. Very well end up doing that getting into that. But, you know, even in that moment, say like, you'll listen, man, you know, I reached out. He hasn't responded.

You know, I mean, like, I would love to have a conversation with him. He said, I'd be wanting to shoot off a tag. But he also said they've spoken after everything. Whatever that means, direct quote, like we've spoken after everything. Okay, again, from what I know.

I know I'm just, I'm just, I'm from what I know.

You know, conversations that I've had with certain people that, you know,

are existing in the world with us. Yes. They have not taken the world with us. So certain people that I've had conversations with that are existing in the world with us, that may know a thing that you're about this music.

It's spinning on this rock. Yeah, I mean, you know, no, there hasn't been no communication. There hasn't been no conversation. And, you know, I think I kind of understand. I think that that's one of those things where you know you did something

fucked up and wrong to your friend. And, and obviously, which is the obvious thing to me. Coal is non-confrontational.

“So sometimes you have to be confrontational with your friends when you do something fucked up.”

You have to face that confrontation. You have to face that phone call of your friends saying you're that's fucked up, bro. You did me dirty. That, that, that, that, that, that, whatever it is. And, and, and Cole is non-confrontal.

We know that about Jay Cole now. He's a non-confrontational. And it's nothing wrong with that. I don't want that to come off like a slight to Jay Cole. I'm not a confrontation with things that I avoid and things like that.

So I understand that. I wouldn't avoid no rap battle if I had Jay Cole skill. If I had his skill said I'm not avoiding the rap battle. I wanted with everybody. But, I can understand that being his real demeanor of him just being a non-confrontational guy.

But, when you do things to your friends that you know hurt your friends or make your friends kind of feel slight it. You got to face that confrontation, bro. You got to do what you got to do to be like yo, bro. I fucked up. You know, let's talk.

Let's kick it, you know, whatever. However, you got to go about, you know, men in that relationship with your friends, which are brothers or whatever. You got to do that. And, you know, I get it. I get the non-confrontational part.

But, you got to put that shit aside, boy. And face the face to fire.

“And that's what I feel like Cole has been avoiding.”

I feel like, you know, he know he fucked up. And it's just like, hey, he ain't fucking with me, fuck it. Let me just continue to make music. And let me continue to just live my life. And maybe one day will, you know, fix it and things like that.

But then you look up in a year or two years past. And it's like, damn. You went two years without speaking to your friend. And it's like over something that, you know, was really just a moment. Like it's not even something that was like a lifelong thing.

Like it was just a moment. You handled it in a way that your friend probably felt like damn, bro. You kind of just, all right. But fix the situation. No, well, yeah, now.

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I guess I'd like to hear Drake's perspective on why he specifically feels away about that entire thing because I can't find a reason why Kendrick and Cole wouldn't speak. Like he apologized for disenging back, which whatever. But I couldn't see why Kendrick would have any issue with Cole

did not just be friends again. Like, all right, let's take this off. Let's take this off. Let's take this off with Cole Kendrick. Me and you in a situation, right?

“Somebody that we cool with says something, right?”

It's a little. We're going back and forth, right? You called me. We're on the phone for a couple of hours kicking it. Okay.

And I say, oh, yeah, I just spoke then last time. I was on the phone for three hours. Okay. I just told that in the conversation. Not really.

I just spoke to last night. We was on the phone for a couple of hours. You're like, what the fuck? Like, when was you going to tell me that? And then I say, yo, yo, Roy, let me hit you right back.

I got a, I'm going to put my son to bed. I'm going to call you right back.

And then we never speak again.

Okay. I hate to bring them back into it. But is it at the time of, is the matter of people talking

“to shit like the like that verse where it's not that serious?”

Like, this is just a wrap. Like, was it just banter? Because then I feel like I just, I can speak to both people. This is before and not like us. No, I'm saying.

I said, is it the like that verse time? Yeah. Like that was. Because when you said that, but I'm just trying to say like that to me. I wouldn't feel away if you were talking to somebody when it was just like a

a verse of fucking, this is before. It's been three years.

It's been three years, it's been, it's been four during first.

I wouldn't feel away if somebody had said something about us. And you were still talking them, but it was at the level of just that. I wouldn't care that much. Now, if it got serious way more serious. Yeah, no, no, no.

You missed what I'm saying. Okay. You know, I spoke to them. I spoke to him last night. Yeah.

Where would, would you talk about? Hmm. You don't really say much. And then you get off the phone saying, you're, I got to put a moron in the, in the tub.

Let me call you back.

and then you never call me back.

Okay, you, I don't have a right thing to get you like, what the fuck? Like, you understand, I'm saying, like, to me, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo

to meet, I don't, yo, yo, yo, yo, my little morning, and it's all in put it down, I'm gonna call you soon as I put it to sleep. Yeah. And then, I never hit, and then you again. And then I get on a podcast, the apologizing to the other person and then, though. Yeah, I can see. And then you go on your podcast, I can see yo, I apologize. And I don't have a right to feel like, what the fuck? Like, I thought that was my brother. I would only feel away. If you want to go make a choice for you at your, your big age. Cool. But we would also need to speak. That's all I'm saying.

That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. That's what I call it. So who knows what you're trying? I don't know. You know, you've, because you've been in the situation somewhere, when you, when you see somebody, like, yo, I was just trying to call you. What does I was just trying to call you mean? How do you try to call somebody? Either you press call or you're abandoning it. There is no, I try to call you. Yo, I was just trying to call you. What do you mean? You was just trying to call me. Like, that's what people do again. And I understand and now it makes a more sense because he's not a confrontation and I understand that.

You're not mad at that. But you got to face that fire, bro. Or you're just going to not ever be cool with him again, which is crazy to me. Which is crazy because it's like, bro, just say you was wrong. And the way you handled it, your I apologize. I was wrong. I shouldn't handle it like that. I handle that completely wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. But when you move and act like, you know, like, yo, listen, man, or that had nothing to do with me, I kind of just moved out the way. And you know, and I still love those guy. That's not enough to me, bro.

That's not, it's not, it's not the history. It doesn't, it doesn't speak to the history that you have with both of them. But really, with, with Drake. And then like I said, coming off of the success of everything that child was just doing. Having your first number one and going on the road and having all of these moments that we were talking about on stage, you know, like it was like, Dan, I was dope to see both of them. And then all of a sudden too much later, y'all never speak again after that. I think that's a little crazy, man. I, to me, I just think that. And again, you know, I know people feel like yo Drake is your boy. So you ride and for cool. I understand that.

Uh, as we say in Kappa of software and corporate brotherhood is a two way street. Tricks a lot to feel a way, but also you can't be mad at somebody if they tried to reach out or text you and you didn't reply. You have every right to do that, but you can't be mad that maybe they didn't take triple extra effort to. I keep texting you because if they didn't reply, sometimes I get, sometimes I get the message like true, if it's not off one text, I'm not going to beat this into the ground because maybe I did a fuck up. And if you're not replying, I'll give you the time you can apply when when you feel comfortable.

Because I'm not about to force your conversation if you don't want to fuck me. Very chose the two way street in that regard. But in closing, I think the overall theme here is that like when you think about it. Brad battles are really gay. This is gay. No, no, but none of it. It's not gay. It's not gay. Brad battles aren't gay because rap is a competitive thing. That's a competitive art form. So it's not gay. It's that people turn it, make it too emotional.

“Yeah. And I think that's what Cole did. He put, he put way too much thought and it was just a rap battle, bro.”

And that's when I said I was going to happen with now. I wasn't just rapping. No, no, no, that's some totally different. I'm saying that it was just a rap battle.

He turned it into the emotional that I can't sleep and it's down to third and that's when I was like, what is this?

That's when it starts to feel a little like your come home, bro. We put in way too much emotion until we could have just been an entertaining battle between some of the best rappers that we ever had. Yeah. That's all. And I promise we'll start to get off this side. There's one note from the New Desk interview that I do want to kind of go back to. The new generation has tried to change the rules on a lot of shit. My favorite style's peak quote is coming off the shop conversation with Drake and Bronn about the 40 situation and styles was like, Drake is a great MC, but you can't come here and change the rules at this point.

Like, if you want to get in the mud, you got to stay in the mud. You can't come in here and say, what's okay and what's not okay. These rules have existed well before all of us. You don't get to do that. I kind of felt that way with Cole talking about people debating rap to some degree. He was saying like, yo, sports does it as well. Like, to big up Lebron. I have to shit on Jordan or vice versa. I have to steal the joy of watching one of the best basketball players that I start having the brawn and Jordan shit.

Where I feel you on a logical level, but that's, this sport is an art is to be debated.

Like, that's never going to, you can't come here now. You can feel the way you're artists, you're a human.

Who are you? Erica Boddo, I'm also sensitive about my shit. I get it, but I don't, maybe I view that way with the stands on the internet as far as debates go. But healthy rap debates have existed since its inception and it's not tearing someone else down.

“If you want to say reasonable doubt, it's better than ilmatic or vice versa. Not tearing that shit. I love ilmatic. I thought that was odd when he was saying that.”

And I've heard other artists say this in interviews. And it bothers me because y'all do the same thing. Y'all shit on pollcasters, media people, everyone that is having debates about sheer music. I've been in the studio with a lot of y'all. I better on everyone at Dreambo. Love those guys. We have healthy rap debates where we do the same thing called the same thing. It's part of the culture. I've seen artists in interviews say how much they hate this critiquing world in the town. I'm like, bro, I better studio with you. You've said way worse shit than I've ever said on the mic.

But yeah, if you think co has not had worse conversations than we've had on this fucking. Oh come on, but you debate the same way we do. Listen man, but that's why you love the shit.

“That's always been a part of this culture. It's debating. You hear something? How are you felt about your, you like that?”

Yeah, I said something like that. He ain't fucking with it. That's always been a thing.

It was Michael Jackson Prince growing up. You know what I'm saying? That was, that was, that was, that's always been a part of consumer art. And, and being, you know, in this culture of hip hop and just music, it was always like who you feel is better. Who do you, who do you like more? Who's out most better? Who had the better song? Who's a better performer? You know, like who's, who's more stylish? Who's fly? Who's cooler?

That's always been a part of it. Like, so we can't now that, you know, you're in this moment. And it's your turn to be, you know, you're the main character now. To be debated and say like, oh, I hate when people do that. Like why do we have to, we're not tearing up. If it's a battle, it's a battle. People are going to pick their favorites. People are going to pick who they feel like, you know, they want to win a one-of-champ in a roof for it.

And that said, but once that moment is over, we all move on, we move forward. The culture keeps moving forward. And then in a couple years, we have another moment, with whoever they seem, our best are going to collide and have to show their skillset.

It was because of the, the caliber of artists that we're talking about.

So it was a very unique moment. And we probably wanted the biggest moments. If not the biggest moment when it comes to battle in hip hop that we've had. But this isn't the first battle of, I mean, he was saying just in general too of like, not even battle, like just if we're arguing albums or arguing music. And I mean, like to Mike Princeton, like if I say, well, all right, Mike didn't engineer all those

albums, Prince engineered per brain. I'm not, I'm not taking away from Michael Jackson. No, no, you just name it facts and points to support your argument in the debate. It doesn't. It doesn't, it doesn't take away from anybody. It's like, nah, but, you know, Prince taught himself how to play every instrument. You know, it's like, okay, that's the fact though that in the hat. Let's talk about that.

Yeah, but Prince don't dance like Mike, you know what I'm saying? So it's, it's all, and for the more where we hip hop itself was built upon that energy of battling. I'm going to bring my DJ to your park, and I'm going to have my MC data.

He's from my block. We go see who got the better. That's always been a part of it.

“Like, so that's why I really didn't understand, you know, J. Cole not wanting to be in that moment”

because he's such a hip hop head. I would think that he would understand, like, yes, this is something that's going to happen in this culture. The Titans have to clash. They say he's the best. I'm going to go see. But I think in the Jessica interview, he had some, he was humble in understanding why people had the

the quote unquote outraged that they did have. He was understanding in that regard. He had what he has to understand from the culture. But even in that, there's a flip side to that coin, because I kind of see what he's saying if he's talking specifically about how toxic the internet, music timeline has become posted about it because I agree, yes, with the guys that were never even music fans until this battle.

They're just Drake fans or they're just Kendra fans. Yes, they're tearing down somebody's credibility, livelihood, character to try to win a debate. I feel him, if that's who he's talking about. But to say that we can't debate hip hop because we're tearing someone out and the thief of joy and everything they brought up. That's where I disagree.

I do agree if he's talking about the internet now, because y'all are weirdos. And I think the jakele out of the big three, the jakele stands are probably the least toxic. But if you go through the stands of the big three, yeah, all they do is tear down the other person in regard to the debate. Like we're not even so much music at this point. Now you're trying to figure out who's family structure is set up this way.

“And now we're getting to a very disruptive place if that's what your focus on.”

So I hear him there. But that's a small majority, though, as much as I hate that part of Twitter. Yeah. It's like the 0.01% of music fans. Right.

That's just your algorithm for the day, though. Like the rest of us are here having healthy debates and not tearing down. I argue Jay Zina's all the time. I don't tear down either of them when I bring up points. That I just thought it was an odd of it, man.

But I do want to see his conversation with Ken. I'm looking forward to that. You know, hopefully he goes more into depth about, because obviously, you know, Ken being a rapper. I hope he goes more into depth about the rapping perspective of the whole thing. That's what I want to hear Cole speak to.

I want to hear more about that. So looking forward to him. His conversation talk with flea. Yeah, for sure. I'm excited for that.

“And sorry, before we get off Jay Cole, salute to Mike Will made it.”

Reset is out now. Two listens. I think it's incredible. Obviously, Cole is on that project. And I am here to give Big Sean his flowers.

Okay. Cole stands. Everyone calm the fuck down. I think Cole got off. Then Cole went crazy.

I really like the record. It's one of those that you can ride in the car.

I'll probably put that on the first thing when I get in the car to leave here.

Hmm. Love the record. I out of the big three. All three of them have borrowed Big Sean flows a couple times in their fucking careers. Even if it was to dis them, when Kendrick did it.

Drake has admitted he has before, which I thought was honorable to be like, yeah, not, I took that flow. Hmm. But to say, specifically with hits, too, even though I know this record on Mike Will's album, Cole was just spinning. You wouldn't try to make a record. But anytime rappers Kanye included, try to make a hit in this era.

They borrow a big Sean flow. Like Sean's flows, if you go through his entire career are coded in so many hit records. I can find it in fucking problems. I can find it in so many records. And I don't think there's anything wrong with Cole using the flow that he used on this Mike Will record.

Like I was actually it was so obvious I was waiting for Cole because the guy that he is to shout out Big Sean while he was rapping that way. Hmm.

“Sean has created the blueprint for a lot of the pockets that have created the rap that we love today.”

Like Sean does not get enough credit for his tone, his cadence, how he finds, even the shit we fucking clown. Yeah. Like even though the rap like Big Sean Twitter trend that it was all funny, but don't act like that hasn't gotten us here. Niki has flows that are coded in Big Sean. Like everyone that we love has borrowed from Big Sean.

And I don't think I don't think there's anything wrong with that whatsoever. Everyone borrow us from everybody. Sean's borrowed from people as well. But the fact that that has not been more on the forefront. And so obvious to people is kind of beyond me.

Like Sean is one of them.

I mean, but that's something that's always happened. People have always borrowed flows and styles from, you know,

that's to me that's the ultimate compliment for an artist. Like when you have like an artist to come along and borrow my flow of my style or something. It's like, you know, like, okay, I made. I bought a sound. I bought an energy of cadence to rap that another artist thought was cool and dope and they kind of bought J borrowed.

I don't know if I've borrowed. He borrowed pop who young Chris. No, he borrowed my fucking. He borrowed Pox flowing on a no nigga. Oh, for sure. That's pot. That's his flow. That's his cadence. It's a death from Miss Gino. You know, bad. Got your own title. Never saw it.

You knew about it. That's pot. Like a lot of people don't never notice that. But, you know, and even in that moment, that was special because Pock disjait. And then J said, you know, I don't hate on those. They had to me. I got popcorn. Like he was very clan.

Like, I ain't got no, you know what I'm saying? Like, no issue with that. Borrowed his flow. Yeah.

“But that's something I think every, you know, dope MC should kind of look for.”

Like, if I'm dope enough to be what people want to borrow my flow and kind of like, I inspired them to, to kind of write and rap a certain way. I think that that's dope. I don't think it's no knock to now. It is fucked up when you don't give that artist credit. And it's like, yo, nah, I got that flow from.

But sometimes I don't even think it's, it's the artist's responsibility because I think barring flows is fine.

Like, I don't think it's a, I mean, like, I think this coal record with Michael is is amazing.

And I don't think he should have tweeted out like, we borrow music. We said, well, I think it's fine. Yeah, like, I just want to give Sean his flowers like in that regard because so many people have done that with records and maybe if you're not. If you're a casual fan.

It may not be something that's so obvious to you, which is totally fucking fine. I'm, I'm a loser nerd that obsesses over this stuff. But I think Sean should get those flowers and not to say that mine would mean anything. But in the nerd community, I think we owe Sean, like at least some props of the amount of flows that he has given to the world that have created hit records. A great B side records like Sean is him when it comes to that.

You could laugh at some of his, his rhymes, but don't, everyone inspired it. He, ludicrouses up there too. I think some people would even say some of Sean's shit with the pop-up balloons. Like some of that maybe came from ludic, as well. Ludic and Sean both have given us flows that I don't think people realize it came from.

I say it all the time. I mean, you're listening to me.

“I mean, how you, you should definitely turn after you finish listening to me.”

You should go listen to A's hood.

Yeah, I think that that's one of the clear ones that we never really spoke about.

It really gave credit to like A's hood, like the way he inspired. He's going to have more production or flow because like in mixed offense he was given, like even when he had the dirty braids before Ace hood really hit with Khalid. Like he was rapping in his version of Philly flow. No, I'm not saying he wasn't.

But if you listen to Ace hood and you listen to me and you tell me you can't hear. Bugatti very much could be a meek mill hit and no one would even this. Yeah, it's, you know what I'm saying? I'm what you. Yeah, so I mean, and now, way that I was supposed to be able to wrap that way to make a hit that way.

The way meek. Yeah, I hear what you said. But the crazy thing is I think that sometimes artists don't even notice it. Because if you hear hustle hard and boogatti and all of that as a, you know, as that to me, that cadence and that sticks in your mind when you're creating. You don't even know that your brain is borrowing from that.

Because you like that cadence and that flow so much that now you've adopted it when you write. And you like, oh shit, I don't even realize. But then when we get the record and you hit a record, you like. That's like you said Bugatti could have been a meek song, you know, hustle hard and all that. So it's, you know, whether it's intentional or not, I'm just saying when you have things that we listen to.

And that we hear sometimes it's so embedded in our brain and part of our DNA that we don't even realize that we're pulling from that and borrowing from that. Because we've heard it so much. Like you sometimes you hear a song when you're out moving around, you start humming that song the rest of the day. Yeah, and you don't even realize like, oh shit, like I heard that song six hours ago.

I can always tell when piece likes the conversation and doesn't.

“To even more nerdy, even if meek never even felt like he was inspired by Acehood,”

it trained the consumer's ear for records like that to be hits. But when I was like, it made it palatable. Right. Meek could come with a record that wouldn't be a traditional hit and can wrap that way. And the, the audience is already accustomed to somebody doing it that way.

So yeah, I definitely hear you. On that, that, for sure. I mean, you know how I feel. It's, it's sampling bro. That's for hip hop is the rap is built on sampling.

It's all, it's all, let's all call it sampling. That's all we're doing with sampling fair enough. Yeah, which is a, a perfect fucking segue. Are you connected with meek on LinkedIn yet? No, I'm not my request is still pending.

We're still. I'm still in the queue. Meek is on LinkedIn. Like, that's really him. He announced it over the weekend.

Yeah, you, you don't pay attention to the greatest tweeter of all time. I had my push notifications. I had no idea. Meek was was announced that he's only then had no idea. Man, they've been killing him.

This is, this is his buy right.

Would you like to read that loud? Uh, okay. Meek Robert Williams. Robert Williams Mill. He him or his, his, his, his pronouns progressive.

“Uh, looking to build out and make business connections that's aligned with”

Mill, dream chases and bike life brand. Also connect more by criminal justice reform. I'm also nice at creating tech ideas. Meek Millie. I don't know if this is real, by the way.

I think Ryan pulled us a bullshit. But that's really his buy one on LinkedIn. Yeah. You can confirm that that's. Yeah.

Is verified too. That is. Thank you. These are all the stuff around that thing. Not me.

I'll type it on LinkedIn. Do what you type on. It's me. Like the spaces between Anne and bike life. Meek is fucking with us.

This is, this is him just fucking with us.

I've gotten to a point where we've all you on this spot. I think meek is fucking with all. Yeah. But, but, demerits include like now he, he mean that shit. No, I think meek is fucking with us.

He, he don't mean this. This is just, this is latest. We're supposed to get a, uh, it was it. Uh, 100 albums from in last year and we didn't get one. You know, things kind of slowed up the press and plants and all that things.

You're trying to get finals. Hey, man. Um, I'm not here to kill meek the way y'all were. The entire weekend bit. Let me go on LinkedIn and make some connections.

Oh, people was coming up for that. Well, what are you talking? Like, he said it. It's meek Millie on his LinkedIn profile. That's what it is.

It's meek Millie. Can't you understand who it was? That's what he is. Okay. What meek does a lot of stuff with criminal reform and all that.

Like it could be a good place to network and he was saying like, yeah, we all caught up on TikTok and an IG like, LinkedIn's a positive place and yeah. You don't know who could just stumble upon meek's profile and see. See some potential.

No, y'all haters, man. Yeah, man. Let me get, let me get to that bag, man. Let me make his connections, man. Starting my LinkedIn journey isn't artist.

I have dedicated much of my time. It's a honing my creative. I, who want me can't wrote this? Because it doesn't match his bio. Yeah.

He's not honing. He's not honing my creative skills. Now I'm ready to transition into the business world. Now you're ready to transition into business world. Okay. And showcase my true potential for too long.

Others have spoken on my behalf. But now I'm taking the reins. Meek, somebody is still speaking on your behalf. Now I'm taking the reins. Speaking for myself.

Supported by a strong team. This is somebody who you're team. Okay. Recently, I showcased dreams of night. Missed Philadelphia.

I would post more content and business ideas to demonstrate the strength of the brand and my thought process. All right. Listen, man. Meek trying to get his business in order.

I'm not mad at it. On the independent management side. Yeah. Left rock, who's probably speaking for him. Now listen, man.

You got to back to the basics. Yeah. I like it. Start a LinkedIn profile. But I just like.

I wish Meek would just go on. Live and just start reading like his LinkedIn messages. I just got to see who reaching out. Who's trying to connect with him? Yeah.

That might be something he needs to stream. You need to stream doing that. Are you on LinkedIn? No.

“Oh, I mean, you should start your journey with Meek.”

Yeah. Meek and Maul. Go to his bio again. So it's bike life. Yeah.

Dream chasers. Uh huh. Meek and Milly. Yeah. And Meek and Maul.

Meek and Maul. I can get that LLC moving tonight if you want to. Yeah, me and Maul. I might have to hit Meek up and like math really good. I liked and she going.

You sure. I got 100 on it. Yeah. 100 hours. How much?

Do you watch Shark Tank? Yeah. Okay. What would that value the company have then? If I find that's the 5% for 100 dollars.

For Meek and Maul.

What would be the first vision for Meek and Maul?

“Like what would be the first thing y'all would tackle?”

Something with criminal justice reform. Something something alone. We got that already. Yeah, but now we got it. We got to really build that out more though.

Y'all should be like the firestone of tires, but just specifically for dirt bikes. And then get sued or helmets. Make helmets. Yo, right?

That's the thing, man. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's fucked up. It's not cool to wear a helmet.

Yeah, we got to make make make helmets great again. That's what we got it. Me and me can make helmets great again. Because there's a lot of these dudes on the dirt bikes. They don't really want any helmets.

They say not. Put a helmet or make make helmets cool again. Yo, I mean, when I when I got my custom bike. When I went to like pick it up after I did the whole process. He was like, you don't want to buy a helmet.

I thought he was just being a salesman.

He was like, you just spend this amount of money on your bike.

You don't want to spend any money on your brain, huh? Right. I was like, that's not even a salesman. It's just a fucking, yeah. It's just logical.

Yeah. We need to spend all this money. What about your head? Yeah. Got to protect your head, man.

Okay. Me can more helmets. Me can more helmets. Should we go back to like, protect? Who has a protect plug?

See, y'all. We'll find one. You don't even know protect. You don't even know Tony Hawk. You're crazy.

Me and me can make make helmets cool again. Make helmets cool again. Yeah. Me and me. For sure.

Get the M logos on the side for me. Come on. Like the M and M's, kind of Jack M and M's. Y'all laughing. I see the, y'all see the bag.

Y'all know. No. I remember like Mickey Manel Roger Maris did the M and M shit. Like y'all could be. See what I'm saying?

Yeah. The Astrid could be the logo. Exactly. Yeah. Just take one.

Just take some of them borrow from Roger and Mickey. And that was me. Come on. Y'all. I don't see the vision.

How many people around me that has visionaries, man. I don't have vision. That's the problem now. All right. But would that be too much of a conflict with bike life brands.

I don't want you to do a bad, bad business deal. And you're getting big and big.

“Like life is already something different.”

Okay. That's his own thing. Got you. We just we on helmets. We got nothing to do with the bikes.

Um, I have a connection to to Damon. If I had a chance to get you and me on Shark Tank to pitch. How much time do you think you guys would need? Now we can get that deal done quick. We've already talked about the music business.

Even though I know he left Shark Tank. We'd get him back. Yeah. Cuban doesn't music. He's a hip hop.

He was pressed to culture. Cuba's not dead no more? No. He left. Yeah.

He was like the only compassionate one on that show. He would only like. He congratulated people.

He actually made a million dollars off this idea I had in my room.

Yo, congrats. Everyone else would be like, that's awful. It's like doing it a million dollars from his room. Yeah. That's a hard that is.

Cuba's what us. He's a man of the people. He's a man of the people. You know, would be funny though. Like, you remember, um, the redacted helmets from the 90s.

I'm used to the word redacted. I hope you know the word I'm using. Like the helmets they would put on certain people. Like that. We could bring that back.

And like you could have that on the bike. Because I think it would be like a old. Yeah, like you'd be shown awareness. I don't know. I don't know.

That's just helping you in life. That just helps you when you try to go get something. A snack on the fridge. Like that's not. No, the bike you need something a little more.

Put a little more mask to it. You know, let me go shut up with one of those. That would be the funniest day on Twitter. Make it cool. Does make it cool.

Yeah. That mean they calling that on Twitter all the time. Cool. No. No.

That's not what I was talking. No. No. That's not what I was talking. No.

Yeah, to me. I'm glad you're on LinkedIn, man. Yeah. You're on LinkedIn streets, man. They laughing at you.

I'm fucking with it, me. I like it. No, well, yeah. More.

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How you felt about Mondami's top five rappers at one time?

Listen, man. You trying to get me to say something about Mondami. That's not going to say it. What's whose mom, Donnie's top five rappers? Common, Jay-Z, Biggie Niles, Lupin.

Common, Jay, Biggie Niles, Lupin. I'm not bad at it. All right. Listen, I told you, I'm not. When it comes to people's preference and their opinions on music,

I'm really not. I'm not pushing back. If that's Mom, Donnie's top five. Cool. For me, Mom, Donnie's top five solutions to clean up New York City.

Great. This is great. He's all MCs that I listen to that I like as well. Mom, Donnie, cool. Now, show me his top five solutions to fix in the city.

No, it's cooler when you talk about rap. Exactly. He's relatable.

You want to talk about all this shit that ain't got nothing to do with the budget.

Nothing to do with that. Nothing to do with that. Nothing to do with that whole thing. You lie right now. The pod holes being fixed in June.

There'd be in fixed. There's already. See, you don't even pay attention to geopolitics. Just New York City. It's crazy.

New York City. They're being fixed. Okay.

“Do you think he's fucked up that he didn't have anyone from Harlem?”

Like, how you from Harlem and don't have that? No. Top five? No. I'm not mad at that.

You all think he's going top. Talk with flea, right after coke? He probably is trying to go on talk with flea. 100% Mom, Donnie's probably reached out. That probably will happen.

That probably will happen. That probably will happen. It will definitely happen. Definitely. That will happen.

When it's time for reelection, 100%. We're going to go sit with you. You're going to be here. Oh, Donnie's going to be right here when it's over. Do you think he talks to a Gillian Wallo?

That'd be a great combo. I mean, they're they're filling. Yeah, speaking more in New York. But I think the Gillian Wallo episode with Mon Dami would be fucking hilarious. Do you think so?

They just got Tariys to admit that he acted redacted at the Social Security office. We all have. That's not news to me. The fact that Tariys that his mom made him act like something was wrong with him. Or act of you know, special.

Yeah. So security office.

“I think everyone's parents has told them to act special needs at some point in their life.”

But that was a part of growing up. If your mom had to go to the office and get public assistance and all of that. Like, yeah, you had to go in there. You can't look too clean. You got to look like you're struggling a little bit.

Yeah, that was part of it, man. My favorite part of that's weird. Tariys and me do have a lot in common. Um, my favorite part of this clip for those that didn't see it. Tariys said that his mom used to make him act or tarded at the Social Security office to receive

$7 or $8 a month. And in Watts, in the 80s, that's bowling. You got to act or tarded it. But when we saw voice like, like, acting or tarded. Like, what is acting or tarded?

I don't like, we don't get me to try it. I'm not trying it. I'm just saying like, like, what if he did something? I want to say, if mom was like, no, that's not it. Like, how do you pivot?

Like, what is acting or tarded? What does that look like? You just drooling on yourself. I'm not answering this question. I'm just trying to figure out what is acting up.

Like, you're acting like, like, bad in the Social Security office. Like, you just knocking shit over your mom's head. You know, you don't listen. Is that acting or tarded? Well, uh, Christopher Stefano who we've had on the show has a very funny bit about his dad

trying to get him to the first section in Yankee Stadium, which I mean,

“I think all our dads, anyone that went to Yankee Stadium, you buy bleachers tickets”

and then you try to sneak down. Yeah. You're not a good father if you didn't do that with your kid and try to teach them how to gain past their shit. Mm-hmm.

So his father had told the security guard right there that, hey, my son has special needs. And then they got down to the seats. And his dad said, the drool was a nice touch. And then Christopher Stefano started to think, wait, am I right? Am I retarded?

The drool? It didn't intend to hold it. You didn't even know he was drooling. Yeah. That's how you got to do it, man.

So I mean, sell it. My favorite part of this clip though was, Gilly said, you've been acting your whole life. And I'm misinterpreted what Gilly said. I thought Gilly was saying you've been acting retard in your whole life.

That was my first intention of what that said. That's not what he was saying. I get it though. Listen, man, Tariys grew up like most of us grew up in the cities. You've got to go to that office.

I'm talking about like, listen, we need this check. Then do what we got to do. Tariys is from Watts. Yeah. Say what?

Shit, I understand. I get it. And on top of that, if you're in the Coca-Cola commercials, and you're trying to keep that off the books. Well, that was what you got to go for.

You got to go full retard yourself. That was later on. And I just see this kid doing the Coca-Cola commercial. That was later on. I think the Tariys was in high school at that point.

But no, that shit was super funny. You mentioned to me off mic that there's the Tariys and tank versus Tariys and tank versus this Thursday, right? Yes.

This is going to be dope.

“I think this is going to be one of those versus where because I kind of wasn't too, you know,”

I wasn't anticipating a lot of the previous versus that we've had recently. But this one, because I think a lot of people, you know, they're not really too familiar with tanks catalog. And if it sounds that tank also wrote or produced that he's playing. Yeah.

I don't know if that's fair though. Why not? We've seen other people do that on verses. Yeah, but it was usually like writer versus writer, producer versus producer. If tank start doing all the shitty wrote, then this is a very unfair battle.

It's like an extra hit studio. No.

It's just one of the first artists, I'm more of a tank fan than I am a Tariys fan, but if you get like, what

do you assign to love making? What do you come back with? Don't go. True, but that's still things not to love making. Like, get you there. No.

Oh, don't go. A versus audience. No, don't go as don't go as I don't kid who's watching it. Don't go as it's probably going to win that round. Tank plays.

Sounds love making. You play don't go. Don't say Tariys. Sounds love making. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

And then tank plays don't go. Yeah. I think that's the one for don't go. Yeah. That's the one for tank.

This is going to be interesting though.

It's kind of not as much as I fuck with Tariys. Tanks catalog is just too deep. But through active, like, it's still me interesting. Like, if I'm Tariys and I want to make this clear, I'm not disrespecting Tariys.

“I think he's probably an underrated singer and artist with what he's given us.”

I around 15, I'm going to start playing a fast and furious clip. Still like I don't think people realize tanks. Tanks catalog. That's what I like this. Like once we get the hooks and not to say Tariys don't have crazy hook.

Tanks to, I don't know, man. Tanks is different to me. No tank. Tank. A lot of Piano.

It's going to perform. A lot of people don't know. Tank guy. He got a lot of hits. But Tariys guy hits Tuto.

Who brings out genuine to do TGT? How do they, how do they baked that in? Hmm. I don't know if, I don't know if genuine comes out though. If they recreate what they did on good morning America, I would love to see that.

Like if we give genuine, like, I don't know. Three mollies in a little bit of coke. We get up a great time. TGT or LHG. TGT.

It's kind of, it's kind of not close. It's kind of not close. Yeah, you got a crazy hit there, but not. Go through the TGT catalog. Go through those other things.

They got some Jones. Am I the only one that remembers, uh, genuine being, cokeed up out of his mind during that performance? He wasn't cokeed up. He said he had met, met up out of here from as well.

No, no, he had taken.

“I think they said we took a five hour energy drink or something like that.”

And I think he didn't eat or something. And then the lights being bacon on them on the show. Can you bring that clip up with me? I'm just saying listen, I could see it. I've been TGT good morning America.

You can, I have taken, I have drank in Celsius. Red Bull. I've taken five hour energies. I've not eaten. I have never in my life.

Yeah, but you never done that.

It had been all good morning America with the lights bacon on your skull. Uh-huh. The funniest shit about this entire clip is like, maybe three quarters the way through. You can see tank on the piano trying to hold his laughs back.

Like, take it's trying not to laugh while he's on the fucking keys. He was fucked up. Whatever he was on, he was, he was geeking off that shit. Well, I know you're only taking Molly once, but for people that've taken it like a lot. Sometimes you start chewing the side of your cheek.

I can see a chewed cheek from a mile away. Yeah. That's a chewed cheek. I don't know what it's like to be up for three days on Molly. Just to eat it.

Like. You can turn it. Tariys had to get out of his chair just so hoping that the cameras would distract from genuine sitting there often. Yeah, let me take the spotlight. Let me get somebody's light off my guy.

And if you've heard this song, tank just takes all of genuine parts. Yeah, he had to. But they spoke about this story after and all after about it. Genuine spoke about this too, but this was a classic. I think it was like a TMZ clip show there.

Before they all sat down and talk about it, I think they caught genuine the next days. Like, hey, man, you know, sometimes you're tired. Yeah. Exactly. But this version going to be dope though.

This version going to be dope. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah. No, I'm definitely with you. Well, speaking of R&B, I don't like that that usher wasn't clocking that JV was standing on business.

That's sometimes you got to clock the business. That's the versus we need right now. Sometimes you got to see when JV like we need. We need that we that's the versus that already happened. That we need to see the footage of Justin Bieber and usher.

Now that picture that came out was AI correct.

I was a that was went down. I thought I thought I said being grabbed usher by his lapel like that. I thought that was crazy beyond say in the background. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was crazy.

That wasn't AI though. That would be on a billboard. Like that would have been the funniest. And I thought about that. I'm like, that can't that can.

I should have known that was AI because I mean everybody at the fucking go party has phones. Yeah, things like that. Like that. We would have gotten footage of that. Your brother was there.

Yeah, like he would have called you. Yeah, yeah, getting usher. I should get in his lapel. Wrinkled by Justin Bieber. Like we would have gotten real footage of that.

So, but that's the versus we need. We need to know exactly what happened. What was said? What was all? What did you think that was about to?

I don't know. I don't want to go to the terrible part of the internet brain of things that have been accused that happened in Justin Bieber as a kid. And we know that usher was with puffs and then puffs was like, I want to stay away. I don't think it at anything to do with that. But you know that was the comment pizza.

Of course.

Conspiracy theory that Justin was finally talking to usher of like, you put me in a situation.

I don't think it was that at all. I don't know.

“I think sometimes when J.B. gets the spirits of them.”

He goes a little nuts. What do you think has to do with maybe Bieber not being happy that usher's probably still making money off of him? Like business dealings. It might be some of that. The formalities, the business formalities.

Yeah. But also sometimes you just got to sit there and be like, well, that's not a bad deal. Yeah. But I mean, if you can sign a bad deal when you're fucking 12 years old being a forehand. I mean, I didn't get my dad in my mom.

Like, why should I make me sign this portion? I mean, it's usher. You know what I mean? Especially at that time. But she was, you know, he's still a huge star.

But if 16, 18 years ago. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, at that time, you know, this is usher. And Bieber obviously had a lot of talent.

And you know, it was a good thing to kind of be up on the usher. I think that now, you know, Bieber's probably looking back like, I know. I still just, I'm still paying you. Yeah. I think that's probably more so.

What it was. Well, I mean, we have real facts here. Sources. Okay. Sources.

We have sources said to have, we should do a doc on sources. Yeah. I want to meet sources. We got to meet sources. Love sources.

Let me see sources. Yeah. So sources says they witnessed the feud. Of course.

A source always witnessed some shit.

He said usher reacted angrily when Justin brushed him off in the same way he has for a while now. Same source claims from those closer to usher closer source from his perspective. That's a level of loyalty and gratitude that hasn't been reciprocated furthermore. The distance between them has come off as dismissive and disrespectful. So does that make Justin the aggressor or the other way around?

I don't know. Because usher's a if he's dismissing him, I don't even want to speak to you. To me, that would be usher grabbing his lapel like, no, come here. You're going to talk to me. You're my son.

Let's start there. Yeah. But I mean, clearly the source is giving us stuff. We already know usher played a key role in Justin getting his start in the history there matters and whatever. I don't know.

Some people view things differently from their childhood. And then you may view when you're in a dope. You're sure. And I want to make this come not saying a usher weird shit that they talk about the internet. I was in bad.

Yeah.

“I know Justin got older and probably look back and maybe you maybe you didn't handle my business the best way.”

Maybe I think there could be resatment there. And usher's probably looking at it like this was the music business. What did you now you're not even going to speak to me? Or you know usher's been trying to have a conversation about it. And Justin doesn't want to talk to him.

Like he said, brushing them off. I could see usher kind of like grabbing them up like you're like, no, we talking like let's have this conversation. Because when they said they had whatever they said, there was maybe some yelling.

It doesn't have to be like some crazy. It could just be like yo, let me talk to you and like you like fuck you. Like I don't want to talk to you. And in that turn it's the Justin and Justin Bieber and usher had a few that the go part. And it was literally like yo, I don't want to talk to you.

My guess is it was less than that. My guess it could have been nothing. Yeah. Some people just had a look like they speak aggressively. And you're at the go part in music's playing.

The source could have just been walking by and was like, kind of look like they arguing. Yeah. Because that's happened to me where it's like, yo, y'all was arguing? Nope.

No. Yeah. I just haven't allowed discussion at each other. So I think this is nothing. Yeah.

“I think I don't even like my speculation.”

I really don't think anything's wrong. Yeah. I think they would just maybe were having a disagreement. And that's it was what it was. So how do we feel about now Justin Timberlake is confused that he's a wager?

Did you see that? I told y'all he had too much soul to be a wager. My y'all didn't believe. There's another thing I said years ago, nobody believed. I tried to tell you.

I mean, in his defense, he got blacker.

Rough week for the whites.

“What you were resting, Justin Timberlake, if you pulled them over in the half, then you”

could tell he was a little intoxicated. Because I don't think I would. Here's where corruption would definitely take place. I want to make it very clear. I do not agree with drunk driving.

It has led to a lot of terrible things. Very true. If I'm in the Hampton's on a dirt road and Justin Timberlake gets out his car, and I'll have a lot of calls that night of keeping the Hampton safe. There's not a lot of calls I've had.

I may look at my partner and go, you drive his car. I'll drive the cruiser behind you. Let's take a look at Justin Timberlake back. Which is fucked up. I want to make that clear.

I identified that we shouldn't give celebrities privileges like that. They shouldn't be above the law. The Hampton's in Justin Timberlake. I don't know if I'm taking Justin Timberlake to jail. I'm just trying to be honest.

I know everyone that's way more amazing than me.

Listening right now is like you can't do that. You do the same thing. You turn a body camel. No. I got to put it in the group chat.

The homies. Yeah. I just pulled over Justin Timberlake. No, it was on a body cam. You get in trouble for that if you take them home.

You supposed to arrest them. Yeah, you know what corruption probably happens in the Hampton's. Oh, 100% sure. Well, I'm just saying you might have to turn that body cam off though. You know how many times at the Murdoch household,

they probably turn their body cam off. It turns their main cam off. [LAUGHTER] Not only do they turn. I don't think turning their body cam off in the Hampton's is that crazy.

Yeah. Not only do you turn that to your officers.

It's for never in cam off real quick.

Let's turn that off real quick. We can handle this right here. But yeah.

“More footage leaked from, I believe that was last summer, right?”

Because there was footage that leak where Justin was like, "Do I got to get to my tour?" Yeah. Which was hilarious. But in the precinct, you saw Justin reading his paperwork.

After he had one martini. It's always one. One beer, one martini. It's always one. And he looked at his paperwork and said, "Why?"

Tough crowd. [LAUGHTER] Like you're working with a very cold audience at that point. Because I would have busted out laughing. Yeah, you don't got to be so serious.

You know, officers trying to be serious. I wouldn't know if that's what I'm saying. But I'm sure he had to pause, blown at that point.

Did you start joking after you've...

Yeah. I'm calling. It is what it is. I'm a little intoxicated. I get it.

I still have one. I'm not proud of it. But I have been arrested for a deal. You were scared? No.

So, I don't want to say in my defense,

“because there is no real defense for drinking and driving.”

I fell asleep at my friend's door. He was taking summer classes at St. Petersburg. I was living at my godfather's. Jersey City to... I don't want to say the town where my godfather lives.

But it's not very far. And I was living at his house. I went to sleep. Like, we were drinking that night. And I don't know if you've been in shitty commuter style dorms.

The small couch is probably the size of this table of where I was sleeping. I woke up at like 7 a.m. like I'm getting the fuck out of here. All right. I slept enough. Get in the car, get pulled over.

On the side of the Jersey Turnpike. And this was the year of like, cargo's with cement threes, Tom. So, I'm literally like walking... I don't know if you've seen the Jersey Turnpike.

It has a slope on the side. I know walking a straight line on a slope. And do this at the same fucking time. And the cops said to me, after I'd done everything. ABC's the old fucking thing.

He said, "You do realize we're going to do this until you fail." I said, "Let's fill you fail." For a baton quote. For baton quote. You realize we're going to keep doing this until you fail.

And I said, "Well, then just put me in cuffs." Maybe I was drunk. (laughter) Until you fail. So crazy.

So, I leave my 1993 Chevy Malibu on the side of the fucker. Oh my god. Getting cuffs back of the cruiser. My dumb ass 'cause again, I had just turned 21. I had maybe been 21 for two weeks at this point.

I said, "In my arrogant 21, Gerald, I said, "Man, that's I slipped. "I'm not going to refuse 'cause I know your fuse. "You lose your license for three months no matter what." So, blow.

I said, "Give me that shiver." Wait, you asked for it? Well, you get, you have the option. No matter what, if you refuse, still lose your license for three months. If you get a DUI, it's definitely more of a maximum bullshit.

Probably I should hit perfect at 0.08. Like, I even tried to do the tricks. Like, when you're drunk and you're in just in situation, when you sit there like that, I just said a martini. Like, you really think in an arrogant drunk state that you're fine.

I was like pretending to blow, pause, and they were like,

"You're not that smart." (laughing) Like, this is a machine. If you read, I know you think you're doing something like that. It was an asshole, but he was very much honest.

Like, we know you're not. You're not blowing. 'Cause I'm sitting there like, "That's not going to get it done." If you're going to do this, you've already committed. Right.

Do it. Actually, it's 0.08 on the fucking mark.

“It's just some scary shit to get pulled over, and like, you have to do like a field test.”

Oh, you're just, anytime you get pulled over, period even as a whiper. Like, I only imagine someone else. You're nervous regardless when you see those lights. But I wasn't even thinking the shit, because I wasn't drunk in my head,

which I don't know advocate for the shit. But I thought I slept enough hours, and I was good, which was not the case. But I had to do that one time. We was driving from LA to Vegas, and they pulled us over. Yeah, they pulled us over, so I was, but we were smoking.

So when you pulled us over, they smelled weed in the car, so they made me get out.

So I just always remember, I said,

"I, 'cause he was like, "I've got to follow this, "pain follow the ballpoint of my pen, "to stand at third." All I kept saying to myself was, "You have to over-exaggerate "the eye movement."

That's all I remember saying, "You're just over-exaggerate. "Make it seem like you're so locked." And I was looking at the pen when he had it by his side. He was holding the record, and I was just doing that. I was just over-exaggerating.

So then he's moving the pen like this. So I'm going my eyes going. So then he gets to the center like you know, "I just said, "Let me make my eyes as cross-eyed as possible." And then he was like, "You're listening, man.

"Just kind of keeping it under 80." I was like, "I keep it under 80." I mean, but between LA and--

“Yeah, when you hit that, when you hit that--”

As you hit barbell, there's it, and this is like, it's like, nobody else on the road. It's just like, there's been a road hilarious. Bro, but we was losing that car smoking. I'm talking about burning it down during that ride.

And I was like, "Fuck, someone said pull me over. "I just knew I was going to jail." Yeah.

Well, you know, I never-- I beat my DUI.

Like, I'm the OJ of DUI's for sure. Like, I blew point away. I don't beat the case. Yeah, but I don't think that's-- You don't want to be the OJ of DUI.

You don't want that. You don't want that. It's just-- It's just-- You know, you don't want that anymore.

It's just loose. That's how I walked out of the door. I walked out of the door. (laughs) Court failed.

Thanks. Oh, this is for entertainment purposes. I'm lying right now. Okay. I want to make this guy I'm lying.

None of this is true. What I'm about to say. So, I got a DUI facts. Like, this isn't refusal where there's something-- I got a DUI.

Point OA, you are arrested.

“You have to go to court to face your DUI shit.”

The prosecutor in Newark at the time was my flat brother. So, I-- You know, I make a call just-- Which camera piece? This is all lie.

I'm making all of this up. This is for entertainment purposes. I call my flat brother. I say, "I got a DUI." He said, "All right.

That's my courtroom. I got you." Prosecutor. So, the girl I'm dating at the time is also in turning at the Newark courthouse.

I used to like just visit her at the Newark courthouse when she was there. And there was an alpha, which is another fraternity. Shout out to the alphas.

I love the alphas, except for this redacted word. He was trying to fuck the girl that I was dating. He finds out that with my DUI, that the prosecutor is my fraternity brother. My DUI, I made this fraternity brother.

Even though he was older than me, he joined the alumni chapter. This is all lie, by the way. He joined the alumni chapter. I made him.

So, he's a little brother to me, even though he's twice my age. Right. The alpha finds out snitches to the judge, who's an aka,

and she makes a scene in the courtroom.

I would never even do this for my sorority sisters.

I believe in the fraternity story, but never above the law. So, I get thrown into the court system of people that have family members that are part of the court. Because that's like a corruption.

If you have family working the court, you've got to be in a separate system. Right. So, they put me in that shit. I go to court.

I'm not exaggerating. Every Thursday for six months. The cop never shows up. He gets arrested as one of like the biggest scandals in NJ State Trooper history.

And my case gets thrown out on top of the corruption charge. They were trying to do with my fraternity brother. We almost got arrested as a prosecutor. Yeah, I feel like you got to be white for that shit to have any. My black ass.

Everyone in the court system and talk about his black accept for me. I want to make that clip. Nobody was a white aka. Everybody's black in this, but me. And this is a story I made up for funny entertainment.

It's another story. Yeah. But yeah, that was in the story of my DEO.

That's wow. Yeah. For six months, every Thursday I go in.

“And every time they'd ask you who it's like a formality,”

which family member works in our court system. Yeah.

And I never had an answer.

I was like, I had to like sit there and explain. I was like so my frat brother. And these are people that are not in fraternities. I'm just sitting there like an idiot. So it was like my frat brother and then the judge.

And they were like, okay. And then they'd ask the plaintiff is the cop here. Nope. And I never knew why he wouldn't show up. That's actually was getting expensive from me to I don't have much money.

My card, my Chevy Malibu after that broke down. I'm taking the bus from Team That New Jersey to New York, which is like fucking nightmare. Every Thursday. Yeah.

And I'm like, why won't like, I just let me face the music. Can this cop come? So I could just get my fucking go to my DUI classes, pay these fines. I don't know if they're over with it. I didn't know he was under investigation.

And that's why he never showed up. So all of his cases got thrown out. Like I have no idea how many how many innocent men were let out of prison. The same day that they were like, yeah. So the arresting officer is no longer with the force.

All his cases are thrown out. I walked out that shit. Like lucky. Luckily I. No to the point that.

Luckily I was.

“My court appointed lawyers stopped showing up too.”

I was so crazy.

I would have been in prison for sure.

That was me. Yeah. D.Y. Lock 'em up. So I mean, in a sense, I feel just in when you look at your paperwork and be like,

Why? Yeah. Not me. I'm a cat for it. Not white.

Before we wrap up the word, I do want to say, uh, rest in peace. To the legendary. Yes.

Norris. Um, we lost Chuck. Chuck Norris. Over the weekend. Um.

I'm not. I'm not. Listen, respectfully. Press to Chuck Norris and his family condolences his family. But this is, I'm gonna act like we're not on a podcast right now.

Can I just say something to the room? I thought Chuck Norris was already dead. Really?

I thought he had died like five years ago.

Okay. I feel like we ain't got news. I don't know if it's one of those internet things where they killed some of up celebrities all the time. Maybe Chuck was part of that.

I think Chuck, I caught up in that one year and I just kind of believed it. I thought I thought it was real. But so that's when they announced it. I was like, I thought Chuck Norris passed away. Yes.

But. Um, now we're back on the podcast. Yes. We Chuck Norris passed away. Um, legendary actor.

Um, you know, in every sense of the word. I can't remember. Not watching them. We'll be growing up and not see Chuck Norris on my TV. I mean, I kind of the way we all treat law and order.

And now is how I treated Walker Texas Ranger like. Yeah. That was. That's just on the TV. Not Delta Force was my shit.

You don't even know, you don't even know. You don't even know the legend that Chuck is. Look at you. That was actually ball. He's in one scene.

“It was like, that's what you don't dodge ball.”

You don't know dodge ball. Yeah. Delta Force. You don't know. That's an episode with the Walker Texas Ranger.

That's like two pox songs. I'm sure they have like, uh, unreleased Walker Texas Ranger episode. It's for sure. Game of death. Like, this is Chuck is a legend, man.

Every sense of the word. Yeah. He's who. How many movies does Chuck North have? Uh, and does this calligraphy.

I just want to know how many movies Chuck North. I don't even think this. This. I feel like this is underselling. There's no way.

37. He did that in one year. You can't be. Yeah. I think he probably had 37 this year.

Yeah. Chuck North has more than 37 movies. Yeah. We just didn't really see them. At least 34.

No way. I'm not Jack and AI on this one. Yeah, nah. Chuck Morris has done more than 34 movies. But definitely rest in peace.

To rest in peace to the legend Chuck Norris. Thank you for Delta Force. Change my childhood. And I mean, I know you don't get to, um, decide if people put out a headline saying you had like an emergency or a health scare.

But don't do that. Just wait till I'm dead or not. Because I saw that during the day like Chuck Norris has an emergency scare. Don't, don't do that. Just, just announce when I'm dead.

Yeah. I don't, I don't like that. That's it. Oh, man. Hi.

Well, thank you guys for coming in today. We made it as a family. If you're traveling, please be safe in these airports. I guess you can bring a pillow with you and sleep at the airport in some cities. Um, I know we started the episode with it.

But I do want to close and humble myself. Those tickets are $1,500 for good seats. Well, Jay, you take it. What can you do for us? Oh, I can't do shit.

I let people know off time. I can't do nothing for you. Either you gonna pay that price or hopefully they stream it. Catch it on livestream. I can't do nothing for you.

Yeah. We can't like just, just follow bigs in. No. Not a negative stadium.

What if we posed as acid security?

“Um, but we could be like Chuck Norris type, like we don't.”

We're not the big security guards. We like we need to talk on it. We need to talk on it. Yeah. Yeah.

I had a special set of skills, those two. Yeah. No, not happening. I mean, they got tickets to go for like $400. Which, again, I, I'm not mad at it.

Up there. Which is fine to me. Yeah. Like me quite honest, like just to be there for the books. I would probably pay that.

Yeah. It's just to be there. Yeah. So I don't know.

The third baseline though.

Now you go play. If you try to beat out there with a rod num. That's going to cost you a little, a little pretty penny, but you know. I might just start scamming people like game does in his DMs and just raise the money. Game got $4,000 for some random guy like I bet.

Yo, everyone's semi-m music is $50. So I could raise money to buy shakes. Yeah, man. We're fuck it. Somehow somewhere, we gotta find a way to get in there though.

Yeah, sure. I see what you just mouth away. Come on, man. We'll make it out of the hood. Well, one day we'll make it out of the hood.

We'll talk to you soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

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