1134: Early Masters Stock Watch, Founders Duel, Bryson in South Africa

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“>> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no laying up podcast.”

Solie here. Got my guy, Mr. TC. Lots to talk about tonight. TC, how are you? >> I'm good.

I'm exhausted. I was doing the reino drive all day. Solie. >> Another guy that I know was reino driving throughout the weekend. Mr. Big Randy is here.

Hello, big. >> Hello, guys. Yeah, a little tired. Made a quick trip back to Philly. Back to Denver.

TC, we missed you there. >> Well, sorry. >> I got to watch a lot of golf today and excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me on, Solie. >> We have a lot to discuss.

We got the Val Spar. >> That's not going to take a lot of time, guys. That was not the best weekend of golf that I've ever watched on the PGA tour.

“We're going to do a quick master's power ranking stock watch.”

We're inching up on the master's going to be plenty of content to come from that one. But I'm curious for a question I have posed to you guys. Talk about Brooks kept his recent form ahead of this major championship that's coming up as well. We're just getting that out of the way. Make sure it's mentioned so we doesn't sneak up on us.

Some other tour odds and ends. Really nice week on the LPJ tour. The founders. A little question in there about what we'd like to see next to the LPJ tour. Liv South Africa.

Bryson, a lot of commentary coming from that side of the world this week. And a lot more as well. Winners from around the world. Matt Fitzpatrick wins the Val Spar. Gordon Gumberg wins the Hanan classic.

Bryson wins in South Africa. The crushers win the team section. He'll join Kim wins the Fortnite founders cup. Hannah Green wins the women's Australian PGA. Mattie McCreary wins the Orlando health championship.

A lot of golf to cover this week. A lot of golf. What about China? Yeah. It was a lot of our China.

“There's a lot going on in the debut world to this week too.”

Amen. So you know what else has like going on? Tiles of socials just dropped the new GTS drivers. They are out on their socials and they will be launching on tour this week as well. So it'll be very curious to see who throws that in the bag.

They've been on a run with the GT driver here of late came young just last week. So that's right. He hit the 375 yard drive. Of course with the GT. This is the first look of the new GTS 2 GTS 3 and GTS 4 models that are debuting.

They're debuting PGA tour LPGA and corn fairy tour. Listen, they market a lot of products through us a lot of products. But every once in a while, they'll kind of pull you aside and be like this. This one. All right.

This is one we're really, really excited about. And we haven't touched it. Haven't hit it. Haven't seen it. But the buzz internally.

I know at Tidalist is really, really high on this driver.

And they've never let us astray on any of that.

The things they've been most excited about ended up being a lot of our favorites. And that Tidalist continues to be the most played driver on the PGA tour. Every player in the top three at the Valspar. I was playing a GT driver and again, still only a week removed from that came young drive. TPC sawgrass in its time for GTS.

It's going to be a fun week. So stay tuned. Tidalist social channels for a lot more information about this big driver rollout that they have. Come in. At the Valspar, Sungjam took a two shot lead into the found around of a

critical and David Lipsky. Sungjam's stunk today. It was really not good. Three over 74 was not a factor. Snedaker shot 76 fell off the pace.

But it was Matt Fitzpatrick continuing his study play. Made clutch birdie pots on the 15th and the 18th to eight. Eat out David Lipsky by a single shot. Happy for fits. After all, the Hooliganism last week.

TC, which I know made you sick to your stomach. That's the players. But happy for fits. Get back in the winter circle. They look like you had a lot of angst built up in that put that he drained on 18.

Really remarkable. Went bogey free over the last two rounds, Hooligan. Birdie 18, awesome birdie on 18, awesome birdie on 15. That course was baked out by the end of the day today. And I don't know.

Valspar. It wasn't an enjoyable tournament. It wasn't a good leader board. But I just I love that golf course.

There's always something there, TC.

I'm totally with you. There's something there that just makes it a little interesting. It's just in these guys heads like that that par five that was at the fifth hole. Snedaker hit hit a kind of a just snap hook three wood off the tee there. The guys trying to force it up by the green you know, punching out all sorts of like just the Larry Packard double dog leg on that one on 14.

Yeah, just just a bizarre.

Like I've played it one time and I really enjoyed it. Neil and I played it. And by all accounts the other course over there, the island course is supposed to be electric. As well, but it's like it's just the right amount of scruffy and burned out and kind of shoulder season down there and I don't know.

“I wish like I think one of these years we're going to get a really fascinating tournament.”

I thought JT was going to win this week. He didn't you finish in the in the 30s, but fits awesome victory. He showed a lot of grit coming back after last week. I'm with you, I don't think I love the golf course as much as you do. Like I think it's good solid. I like kind of the small greens, small corners of the greens that make it just it's a good.

I mean, 11 under par one without conditions, like that doesn't happen very frequently on the PGA tour. It's usually a dart fest. I just was not feeling the foul spot this way. It was just not a good watch. I'd struggle to keep my attention.

I just got to put my head up when it's when it's time for that. I was very uninvested with who is going to win it until fits like it murdered. I want fits to win this man. Like with what happened last week and just you know how strong this play has been over the last year plus and everything. Just felt like he should have more PGA tour wins on his resume and this felt like proper win for him.

It was only it was his second PGA tour win if you set aside the US open.

Meanwhile he's won what five different four or five different masters events. The Nordea masters, the Andalucía masters, the European masters twice, the British masters, all of that. But this is only the second one here in Harbor Town. So he's just stacking up, you know, kind of just very Midwestern vacation spots. Yeah.

Andy put your boy on the clock today. He titled on your boy ADDC. No longer my boy. No longer my boy. I have I have repudiated ADDC and I apologize to to add to anyone and everyone for ever having been associated with him.

If for those that missed it, they were played together. He had fallen way off. Adrian had fallen way off the pace. He was taken at times three minutes to play shots. Fitz just went up ahead.

He pulled almost a Ben crane or Roy Sabotini Ben crane situation where he was up at the green. And he was putting out by the time that you know ADDC had hit his shot back in the fairway. So I good on him.

“I think this is totally like it shouldn't be up to him to do.”

I think the group was with a hole behind. At a certain point, they had fallen far enough behind that I don't know why they weren't been told that they were out of position. But I think a warning at least went out to ADDC after that happened. It just rarely do you see a player take you know, be such an alpha in that moment. I'm trying to win this tournament. Like let's go dude, come on. Like we're not doing this here.

Okay, I'm not going to do the pace of play stuff. We'd TC if you wanted to do that in just a second. Please feel free.

I just wanted to jump in here and talk about I think why this tournament always outpunches like what it is in my mind.

And TC, I truly think this goes back to like when you and I were out west in 2007, just like watching golf and going skiing and generally being shitheads. But that was like when the joke of like John Senden, I finished back to run her up and then he would eventually win the tournament. But it's all right to your point, like it's always been a little bit weirdly difficult of a course. And I'm not smart enough to tell you like exactly why that is. But from when I was paying attention, I referenced that 2007 tournament.

How come on at 10 under the very next year, Sean O'Hare won at at 400 in a regular tour event. Like that's amazing. You're after that goose in at eight under and really up until COVID. We haven't seen a single digit under par winner since since COVID. But before that, it'd be like, yeah, seven eight under might win this tournament.

“And I think for me, it's always just been a change of pace from what I'm used to seeing maybe week to week on the tour.”

And I do slot it mentally, which is ironic given fits one at Harbor Town and has now won here. But I kind of slot it with Harbor Town in those horses that for whatever reason, they just stand out as kind of different than what a lot of the rest of the schedule is. Every year. And so it's technical. Yeah, yeah, I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of spots. I mean, it starts on one. There's a lot of spots where like, there's just weird angles. And it takes driver at a guy's hands or the like the way that the green is angled, it makes the green effectively, you know, eight paces deep behind paces deep.

I was going to say generally do a good job of having it firm.

Yeah, it's the ball runs. It's and then the rough can be a little, you know, it can be a little thick and you know, if the wing gets a it just can combine a lot of I love TC. I think that's exactly right. It just presents like a little bit of a different challenge to these guys. And I do enjoy that.

“It's such a good piece of land to like you like I think if you dropped anybody who would never be in there, never heard of it on that piece of land, they would they would not guess that they were in Florida, right.”

Like that would be the 20th guess as far as what state they were in and I think it's probably a better watch on Thursday and Friday. And it doesn't like a Saturday. Like, I don't know, I watched a lot of space around today and I was like, man, speed's back, man, it's a second and many and then he promptly gets to probably gets to, you know, this the snake pit or whatever they call it and just immediately like just fans one was the whole was that was 16. Yeah, just fans one like fans at three would like 40 yards into the way.

I mean not even fucking close. Nobody is close. Come on, DC's close.

I think his close is whole by hole. It's not weak to weak. It's truly a whole by hole that he's close for. And then Jordan Smith is up on the leaderboard and it gives me false hope every time he's up there because I just see see Jordan S and then I'm like, oh, no, it's Jordan Smith not Jordan speed. I'm being obvious answer here as I ask it. Who do you think had more birdies this week? Speed or the winner Matt Fitzpatrick. I'll be sure. Yeah, I mean, I would take the speed. Yeah, he had 16 birdies, fits at at 15 birdies, but that's the thing.

Like, fits. I mean, fits had had what four bogies all week. Yeah, which is crazy out there. He was fifth in Showsking out the T second approach play 40 second in putting. Like, it's, it's not very often that the guy who wins finishes 40 second putting pretty control.

I hope as I go to say this, I'm going to check to make sure it's true, but you always do just think like fits as such a good putter.

Yeah, he is a pretty good putter. He's just not having a good start to the season putting it so far, but he's hitting the crap out of the ball right now is what has been quite, quite surprising. Yeah, this, this, I weirdly with speed. This was like, I didn't stress about it at all. This week, I was just kind of like, oh, he's good. Oh, he's hot. I got looked up. In the early morning, round, whatever, when he started on Thursday or what would he see morning or afternoon, I forget. And he was five four hundred through five through five, and I was like, ah, can't wait to see what happens next, but had a very strong, like,

even tour socials like had something up there, like, yes, because the five hundred and then quote tweeted just like, he's been, he finished at minus two.

“I think they're, it on the bit now at this point.”

It was stuff that, like, shouldn't happen. Like he had a plot to go to like, six hundred through however many holes, and then he, and then yeah, and then he goes to minus two, like, what the fuck? Like, it's, it's maddening, but I love it. And I can't get enough of it. So I'll just point out, fits. Like, obviously playing well, but, but I, I mean, he shot a 70 in the opening round of the players last week, and since then he's been 69 or 68 for 77 consecutive rounds. The guys just playing really steadily, good golf. It's not like he, you know, he's thrown in a 63 and then a 72, it's just very consistently good.

It's fit on, on great man trajectory. You guys hand these things out, like, Andy on Halloween. So I mean, I've been like in 10 years, like he's got a chance, because I think he's going to be a part of a lot of European rider cup team. So he certainly has a chance. And he'll probably be a great captain.

“See, that's why, you guys give me shit privately all week, basically all months about my dude system here, but like this is the, you guys are just giving me dude.”

You guys, no, but I'm saying, you give your little bits, you give him, you give stuff out too easily too fast too quick. And you can't reel it in. Like, that's, that's the whole point of the dude system is like, this is what we're talking about a team here. Great man trajectory. Every European rider cover is now referred to as a great man. All right, you guys have not been able to control yours.

So there were a lot of great men last year to all these. That was not the big getting out of control. That was, that was just, it was, it was the only guy in the field this week all floor rounds in the 60s. I love that sick. I love it, right? Are, are you going to call him a great man? No, no, no, no, no, okay.

Okay, no, no. Any, any more, down the lead report you want to give us, T.C. Sanders shot 65 today for a totally non-competitive T4.

No, not at all. Marco Penge got 71. I was expecting him to kind of go and grab this thing. Good shot into 18 there at the, at the finale, but just missed this spot by a foot or two on some of those holes coming out in the stretch. Can you, can I ask the radio?

Can I ask something on, on Deer Marco?

“I think it was Hicks today said this guy is like, got superstar.”

He's, he's got the makings of being a star. And listen, I'm not saying that's wrong. I guess I'm coming to you guys. Did I just totally miss something? I know as I'm paternity leave, like, it is not come across my desk that Marco Penge is necessarily ticketed for startup.

I was just taking a back by that comment. I think Hicks knew nobody was watching today. It's like, yeah, we get throw that in there. When you won two national opens last year, you won the day. You won the Danish and the, what else do you win?

You opened this spot, yeah, Spanish open. And then actually, and then you won the, the, what about China last year as well. So I don't know, I don't think Penge, he's, Randy, he's really facing.

He's, I talked to him at the, at the first time or press conference at the players.

He's got, he's got just a, he's really in a fashion. Okay. He's long, he's got a lot in the tank, lot in the tank. I think he just needs to figure out how to dump some of that speed. But I think the ceiling is there.

Randy, okay. We'll see how long he can sustain this. He's up to 39th in the world.

“Okay, honestly, I like he's an interesting guy.”

I just, when Hick said that, I was like, holy shit. If I, like, just like miss something completely. So he's a great interview too, Randy. Like he's a very likable guy. I'm team Penge.

And he is like, he's not a ball speed imposter, but he's a ball speed freak. I'm not positive how well refined the rest of his game is. Like I was not, I didn't think Val's bar was jumping off the page in terms of. Great locations for him to compete, but he just had a kid.

He just had a kid a couple of weeks ago as well.

And he's just getting back into things and to see him back play. And as well that fast is I'm team Penge. I don't think he's on superstar watch. But I think he's like potential fringe rider cover. Like, okay.

Like, I think that's a possibility. He was last year. Yeah, exactly. So, but I mean, we're talking. Yeah, Randy did miss when you were out.

He didn't get into several clubs down in the Jupiter Palm Beach area. Because he refused because he was wearing athletic shorts. Like, he refused to dress up for the interview. Yeah, I'm out of them then. Which, I know.

I think for the interview, all right. I thought it was while he was playing. I thought you were going to say, well, he was playing. I take it back. No, he's just not putting on airs.

He's doesn't. He's won the Sunningdale forsels with his wife. Before.

“Which I think is a pretty cool feather in his cap.”

That is cool. He's stroke. So, his strokes gain. I'm looking at his PGA tour stats, the stroke gain. Little chart. And it's like essentially like an arrow pointing to off the tee.

And everything else is very enclosed. As I say, as I said, I don't know. If he's not a ballspin posture, I don't know what is. Because it's not looking great. But I believe he can emerge from the group of ball speed.

Okay. And posture is not the right word for him. I think he's a little different than like a pot either. I don't think I think he's a more real golfer than like the current form of Rogers pot leader.

He showed a lot today. Like he was grinding and he was getting up and down from some of spots today. So. Okay. Yeah.

He's got my attention. Yeah. I appreciate that. TTC keep going down the leaderboard for us. He's the 74 today.

Like doesn't properly capture how bad Sunjay was. I mean, he was awful. He was flat over through what 11 holes and then in his defense every time I looked up to watch the golf. Everybody was just driving it in the crowd and down the car paths.

And, well, this is what this one's headed towards the crowd for. This one's headed toward and it like half the time it was some Jay. But it's just a bad golf be played those final few groups. A lot of commercials too. A lot of commercials.

It was yeah. It was like getting water boarded. We got can't lay. We got speed then it up finishing T 11. The bridge man.

He 14.

He Randy heat remains first in the FedEx Cup.

Wasn't sure if you're aware that. Good finish for Gary Woodland. T 14 for him. Corey Conner's very uncompetitive T 14. Just 69 69 771.

Sorry about SNES. He was so excited to make that joke tonight. He was just frothing to make that joke. I'm sorry for you. The final round 76 just totally ruined that bit.

It was random.

It is like, yeah, 45 year old.

I was a brand's networker that I was kind of like, is he still playing? You got a sponsor. I forgot he got a sponsor because he was a memorial last year and finished top 10. But at not a lot of top 10s for brand over the last four years or so. But that was a signal of like, man, this might just be an off week for the PGA tour.

I think the like the systems working like Brooks teated up T 18, Fenaal Tom Kim. JT speed like you got a lot of good players team up in. You know, in an event like this trying to 80 like the course and be. You know, they're trying to get points, right?

They're trying to play their way into these big events. So on the back of two signature events like getting this the solid field that that they got here. It is impressive. And it's easy for a lot of these guys to take use in off two weeks in front of Augusta.

“And if you want to play Valero lead into it, you can.”

But so it does fit in the calendar if you don't want too much off time in front of the masters. But you know, it's not like the cognizant, which just gets totally depleted. Of star power of where it is in the schedule. This is a tough spot on the schedule, but a lot of guys make it work. And that is a endorsing the golf course.

Yeah. So I'm worried about Luke Clinton 78 75. Just, you know, we'll just say that. Cam Davis is really falling off. He was plus 10 Johnny key for EFL.

Yeah. 14. Yeah. That was kind of a weird one to see. So anyway, I see.

I see the rest of my time as far as. Okay. Val. Well, let's let's talk a little little stock watch here because there was one player in particular. And we'll talk about him separately here that the peak might my interest on this.

And I'll, I'm going to explain this. I'll try my best to explain what I'm, what I'm after with this question. But we had less than three weeks until the master's begins. I want to know who the top five are in your master's power rankings. And I want them listed in order.

If you are actually trying to predict the winner and you have five picks to do it. The board. If I can pick the winner and I get five picks. Uh, what five are you taking and let's say let's say in theory, you get more points.

If if you think Ludwig's in a win and you pick him first, you would get more points for that.

Uh, as a lead in the TC's picks here. But I want you to, how would you cover the board? Because you've got to leave off some somewhat interesting names. I found this exercise to be a little harder than I thought it would be. You're doing it.

You're doing it. You're doing it to isolate a zander conversation. I don't necessarily think so.

“I think there's maybe a more interesting name that that may not appear on some list.”

Or maybe it will appear on some list. But I'm happy to talk about that. But does anybody want to go first on their master's power rankings as a sits here? If you had to try to guess who's going to win three weeks out. You got five guys to cover the board.

How are we doing it? It's all over the first. Okay. TC, you go ahead. I mean, Ludwig.

I'm going to love it. I thought you might. Do you think he's more likely to win the master's than Scotty? Yes. Okay.

Okay. You're going to keep going. Yeah, please. Yeah. I want to want your whole list.

I got Scotty next. Okay. I've got. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. After that.

Wouldn't Scotty or no? Are you going one to five or five to one? Well, I'm going one to five. Okay. All right.

It's like I'd Ludwig, Bryson, Scotty.

Wait, who's second Bryson or Scotty?

Oh, sorry. Sorry. Ludwig, Scotty, Bryson. I'm going to go with the great man team Rose. Jesus.

I wondered if she might hit the board. And then I'm going. I'm going with the links master Jordan speed. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

No, Rory either. No, Rory. Interesting. Randy, I'm very curious your direction. All right.

I guess one to five here. Time. I got Scotty. Come. This was tough.

Right? I'm going to take some heat for this one. I'm just going to go mixing. It is a lefty. I'm putting the auction.

Oh, God. Yeah. I'm putting the auction number two. I have disease X, Zander at three. I have Rory at four.

Listen, again, this is just trying to cover the board.

“I think Rory, there are questions about the back.”

I just need to see it a little bit. But, you know, I think you're here. I put a ROM on five. I really struggle with this five. I didn't necessarily want to put ROM.

It felt more like an obligation to put about camion. Any any consideration? Yes. Heavy consideration. That four, five spot.

It felt like I needed to have Rory on there. And then again, it felt like an obligation to put ROM. I was thinking like, I need to have like a live guy here. I didn't want to put Brace in, so I put ROM. But camion, consideration, TC, honestly,

thought about Justin Rose for a little bit as well.

Listen, listen again. What's your five again?

Scotty, Oxa, Zander, Rory, and ROM.

And I'll be honest, Fizi now is like,

“I think that's a name I need to remember here in a few weeks.”

Yeah, I'd be interested in, I mean, Fizi's thing. Whole thing right now, especially his driving accuracy. And Augusta is just the place where that just doesn't seem to play as much. So, his recent play doesn't, you know, he's taken advantage of a good spot on the calendar for golf course style, I think.

He ever played well there. I can look that up for you. Moderately. I guess I'd be shocked if he doesn't have at least one top ten there, right? Or am I?

Let's see. He has one top ten, two top tens. 20, 23, he was T 10 and 20, 16, he was T 7. Okay. So, not the best course fit for him.

I, I, I think is very reasonable to not have Scottie number one, but I still do. I'm kind of regret, I honestly kind of forgot about the back thing. I have Rory too. That one fell a little bit like an obligation.

Like I definitely am not feeling Roy the same way I was last year, heading into the master's when I picked him the win. That'd be deal. Rom, I'm not moving off that one. I'm not going to forget about Rom.

I still think he has an excellent chance to win. I've got Ludwig at four.

“I think there's also an excellent chance that he could win the masters.”

And I've came young at five. I am not going to forget about what we saw there. I'm not going to forget about the leap that he has taken. He has a good track record at the masters.

And I think this is the first time we'll see him playing it with the,

with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, the prototype golf ball that has taken his game to an entirely new level. And I'd be very surprised if he's outside the top five at the end of the week. So my list is not include Xander and my list is not include Bryson, where the two hardest ones to leave off. Mine's pretty chalky as it is.

But I did go a little pastander in Bryson to pick, to get camp on there. I think if there's first guy out of mine, I think is Chris got her up. I think got her up is sneaky, great fit for Augusta.

So there's a lot of guys that I think can play very, I'm expecting Bryson to be in the top 10 at the masters, but I'm not expecting Bryson to win. I think we saw the approach play by the end of last year's master. Like for three rounds, like dude, how's he doing this?

Like he is not, like his approach play has been terrible. Like he's putting his ass off, he's driving it like very, very far. But like at some point, you got to get close to the hole and camp rely on this. And that faded really, really hard on that Sunday to the point where I was like, man, unless he's sitting, obviously you can have a great week with the irons.

And he can hit a lot better than he did last year. But I can't get that image out of my head of like, I don't know if you can do that. Anything remotely like that for four days and win the masters. Again, I think he'll be top 10, maybe even top five.

But I just don't, I don't see the play this back here in a couple of weeks. If he does go in the win, but he would not be in my top five. I just think a little bit about like, I think there's some comps with how Pinehurst played for the US Open couple years ago. I mean, that Pinehurst ended up being like as bomber friendly,

as has winged foot did very different way of getting there. But like Augusta does fake, you got to be long.

“You should be long had Augusta, but it's not.”

You can't bypass the approach part of the test with the quadrants they have in those greens and then the precision that it requires to get in the right spots on those greens for most of the days. There's some funnel pins around you. I know out there, but you just can't bomb it past a lot of trouble at Augusta.

Many people are saying the same thing about Steen City. And he conquered that place this week. Thank you. Can bomb it past a lot of stuff at Steen City? Solid, can I?

Can I double click on how close was the zander to make in your top five? I'm a little surprised. He's not in with that. What would you want to see between now and master's week? Zander was close, but again, I'd be surprised if he won.

Again, I would be surprised if he finished third.

Absolutely not. I'd be very surprised if he wasn't top 10. I'm looking for a gear to get to win it. And you can debate. The thing is after what we just saw at the players, what's the hurry to crown him?

A person capable of winning these things. But with the great track record and potential lessons learned, and better course fit at Augusta than I would think for the player. Then TPC saw grass. And I still just not quite, I mean, zanders like returning to a level of play.

It looks a lot like it looks right before his two major win season in 2024.

And we saw him contend a lot and not win a lot in a lot of major championships. I feel like that's kind of closer to what he is right now than the 2024 version. How's that sound? Not that's fair. Who the fuck knows though?

Like he could go out and win it, of course. But I'm not like, I'm not going to rush to take Zander to win the match.

I also guys first draft I did of this, I had Brooks in there.

“Because that was my next question was like, what do you do with somebody like Brooks?”

I mean, Brooks is 35 to one right now. Oxace 40 to one. Brooks is. Can we get right to that before we do that, TPC. I want to give a shout to of course, the new spring 2026 line is live on hbgolf.com.

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But back to the the question of I think Brooks has played well enough. The last couple of weeks that he's not going to sneak up on anyone. All right. I guess we've seen this before.

“Where all you need to see is just a little little semblance of good play and then”

realize maybe like Friday afternoon that Brooks kept it is one of the greatest major. Chip and chip players in the history of the game. And definitely the modern history of the game. Are you buying a potential. Masters run for Brooks kept is a serious container to win the masters.

And do you feel differently than you did at the beginning of the year is another question. I know I certainly do. I'll time it. I definitely feel differently than I would have back in January. I I really like what I've seen.

His approach play has been phenomenal. The putting is not great. This week for instance, you know, if he could figure out the 16th hole on the weekend. He doubled that both Saturday and Sunday. I mean, he's he's looking at another top 10 this week.

I really like where he is in relation to the next three weeks in Augusta. Um, to me though candidly he's a guy that like if we're talking. Full faith that he can nab a top 10 at the masters, but I'm not sure if I would be willing to say like I definitely believe he could win it this year. Um, when we were putting together the agenda, saw you're asking about like, do I see him making a major run? I think so.

I wish I knew how difficult Augusta was kind of going to play this year. Um, I was thinking more like a US open or an open championship. A more like difficult test if he's, you know, if he can kind of shine through where power is a really good score. But I'm excited. I love having him back and and like a part of these events.

I didn't realize I guess how much I missed him being in the fold. I just don't think his plotting is good enough.

“Like that's what that's what concerns me.”

It seems good enough to you to green like like Randy. I would feel better about a machine of cock. Yeah. So something like that. But yeah, like I don't know.

I think Brooks is like a really interesting. Like would you rather of Brooks or Bob McIntyre or Brooks or got her up or Brooks or I mean shit. Jacob Bridgman or Mav McNeely like I don't know. It's a total toss up and I think I'd take those other guys. Yeah.

But again, this is where like. We had we this is the guy that elevates in these four events and like on a week to week basis. I'm with you on I would take all of those guys over Brooks. If if they're all teamed up in in Houston this week, I'd be like. Especially got her up.

It was very much looking forward to getting to Houston as he said in chasing Sunday. I would I would agree with that.

I'm like, what the fuck how do we forget about Brooks again? And he's got a good history at Augusta when he's been healthy and when his game's been in decent form. You know, it's not like a tailor made course for me. I'm with you on like the US open classic Brooks setups would be I'd be more jazzed about it. But it's it's interesting.

And I just did not think we'd be here this soon after, you know, his game was in really, really poor form when he came over. And I'm I'm not looking to pull on any like, oh, now he's practicing because he's back on the PGA tour moves.

“I don't think it I think it's just simply like he's healthy.”

He's getting some confidence back and I think he's maybe maybe maybe potentially a little bit more driven than we've seen in recent years. Yeah, I think all that's fair. It's truly like a who can say. I just I think I would be more surprised if he won the masters than I would be if he won even like the open championship. Like I think burked ill if it's into a tea so.

A little shocking I guess I just I mean shouldn't I knew he hadn't played necessarily well in majors for a little while, but it hasn't top 10 since he won the PGA back in 2023. So I think that's a little bit of it.

Solid for me is like I just don't know if he can win necessarily like this first major when he's when he's kind of, you know, if we're going to say he's back a little bit.

I expect him to have a good week and and I think that could set him up for the remaining majors this year. I think my point overall is in that time period also like his game worldwide dipped greatly, you know, and that correlates very strong like. When he was winning majors and being very good in majors, it wasn't like he was a bad PGA tour player. He just was not like one of the elite top five guys out on tour on a week to week basis. And then he also started then he began playing bad golf like straight up bad golf across where he was below average tour pro for a while there 2425.

And you know maybe below average tour pro is probably stretching in a little bit, but that's I'm just saying like just a little little tip of the scales, a little bit like a little bit of forward momentum. It's not hard to imagine that when the golf gets hard and gets real like the real golf he has been the dude that rises and I'm excited to find out now man. Like I you know we'll see if you I don't if I see him I just wouldn't be passing out nearly as much advice at the masters this year, you know you might you might need those those strokes at the very end.

So I know none of us mentioned P. Yeah.

I mean P was holding third last year.

That's what I got. It's truly out of sight out of mind for me and I know that's like a me thing. I just I can't watch all the golf. So I just have no idea to see. I'm just running rough shot over the D.P. World Tour and going on with the masters still are very different categories. So I don't I don't think P is a serious series.

I mean tender P 2018 won it. 2019 T 36 2020 T 10 2021.

“T 28 22 T 35 20 23 T 4 T 12 and in 2024 so I I don't know I think he I'm a little bit worried.”

He's not playing a whole lot right now. He didn't play in China last week. He's not going to India this week. You know see do keep T 10 and Joe Berg. I don't know he's probably down on the lab. He's probably hanging out down at Carlton Woods.

But the club and open T times this spring of course is open. It probably does just bear mentioning a Brooks win at Augusta would be an awesome just thing for golf. And that you know that would be his six major that would put him back ahead of Rory. Kind of set them up for a little back and forth here like there are some like really fun story lines. And he'll be doing for the career grants. One more guy that's a one major way from the grand slam.

So then it would be so nobody's pending the masters obviously. George is still pending the PGA. So with the US open of course and now Scotty with the US open and then that'd be that'd be Brooks with the open almost the full year. This is a big year for Scotty. A Chinacock win would be not only for the grand slam, but just like go go win on a proper course.

That would be big for Scotty. Another thing with the captain thing, this year feels a little bit open like last year did as well with Scotty. Like there's 2024 did not feel open at all. Last year did feel open because the ravioli incident and Rory took advantage of it. And like I'm curious if somebody can step up and do it because there's no no guarantee then 27 or 28 that he's going to be in this kind of form leading into the masters.

“If we believe this dip to be temporary. I believe his wife was due today as we speak.”

I don't know if there's obviously not been any updates as we're recording this as to when their second child speaks expected.

But that does hope if that if that what I've been told is true on the due date does eliminate the page at a gust of possible situation.

Would probably shouldn't bank on him being in Houston though sounds like he's in the field this week. But you're right that would be surprising to me either way unless the on maybe they kid this week and I haven't told anyone yet also so yes.

A couple other news and notes around the PGA tour Josh Carpenter had this stats players average 4.4 million viewers on Sunday peak at 7.1 million that is up from 3.6 million last year.

That is not included big data last year. I don't exactly know how all of that works, but seemed like there was a viewership spike and I did not conclude last year on the Sunday as well. There was a playoff of course on Monday Thursday coverage was up from 6.44 to 8.74 Friday coverage up over 1.1 million average viewers on Friday afternoon, which is up from 747,000 in 2025.

“Good vibes coming out of out upon a VJ, I think helped a little bit last week, honestly, of just good general bonus heading to the south and good setup, good tournament and then the ratings rewarded it.”

So even though the even though the the agronomy team over there says they didn't do anything different just because of the dry weather.

The this past Tuesday as well, the tour released chasing Sunday, the video project they were doing with NFL films extremely fast turnaround from conclusion of play on Sunday to a Tuesday night release. Did you guys get a chance to watch it and what was your reaction. I did I thought it was fantastic and I think it just I've said this multiple times now what I like it made me just disappointed that how big of a with full swing has been when they've had so much so much to work with so much time to edit it and that's the product we've gotten whereas this is all we're asking for right I think they're two different things but I don't think full swing accomplished.

“It needed to accomplish and I think this is much more valuable stuff.”

I think they thought full swing was going to save golf and I think it is full swing is meant to win like the algorithm and win on people scrolling the Netflix homepage more than it is to cater to golf fans and that this was a simple thing like this is for golf fans.

It was shared widely across the sports world and it hasn't done like crazy view numbers but I think that being a barometer of success for something like this is the wrong way to look at it it is.

You increase the profiles of four guys on the PGA tour that should have their profiles increased like how great was see who Kim in this thing I mean the whole you know Joe Griner was incredible in this thing was such a good team and just like I would run through a wall for Joe Griner very clearly just listen to his pop up speeches and things like that. I mean got her up was not was like it was an interesting look at a week of a guy that's like just hired doesn't have it was low energy was not feeling it and like yeah you can be on top of the golf world a month earlier and then you get there and just have a week where you're off and even it was you know one of the best permits of the year you're just not in the great headspace and like that was documented like that's real that was great.

“I got her up to there was there was interesting stuff with got her up and I think some of that got yanked and sanitized out on by the request of his agents which is a shame because like the whole reason to do this is to.”

Yeah real show the real stuff and and yeah I think Ricky doing it seems like it's it's probably more of a signal to the other players are like hey like say yes to this stuff do it like I don't think Ricky's the most. interesting guy at this point in his career but I think it was a good like. Joe face moment for him and yeah so I don't know I'd love to see more of these I thought it was kind of a shot across the bow at both golf channel at. DJator studios even of like you know hey we we had to bring in a non golf entity because they had the credibility and the chops to do this thing and yeah I hope they do it you know I would watch.

I think it's the most interesting and I think it's almost the worst version of this they could have not version but like none of the guys were really different. The guys were really in contention you know like they they almost had the worst luck with who they picked this year. And so I think that's a good sign like I think it can only get better as you know a couple guys that might be top 10 or more in contention.

Of a shot across the bow and and kind of makes me wonder like what the hell have we been doing all these last several years guys so yeah I'm I thought it was all good.

I went searching for the first mention in my in my notes and documents of everything of like when it was the first time I said like doing NFL sounds of the game and release it on Tuesday 2021 was the first year that I found in my notes of like bringing this to the forefront of like. Radically.

“I don't have to over produce it nobody's trying to cancel anyone like we just want to see.”

Substantive conversations and like really golfy stuff. Yeah and it is a big project like don't like it's a huge team if you look at the credits afterwards of like and be able to turn that around on Tuesday I don't want to. I don't want to act like you could do this every single weekend at simple it's not but you could change the scale and scope of it like you know if you wanted to do a Saturday version and get somebody in the last two groups at waste management and like. Get you know you know get the capture that atmosphere but you mentioned hard knocks Randy hard knocks doesn't amazing job of making you invested in characters that you didn't previously care about like.

The fight for the 53rd spot on the roster like you just all I would lay down my life for that guy I hope he makes the team like three weeks later you kind of forget about the guy but during the series you're invested. For a sport that needs to sell their characters like this is a no brainer like it continuing to invest and stuff like that is going to pay dividends. And we'll get this some of this on the LP J side too like there's just very clear efforts being made to to give you reasons to root for these players like I followed see will come for a must a decade and I'm like why don't I root hard to foresee who can like that it's just such a delightful dude.

“Like I think a full swing succeeded anything I think it did crossover a little bit and make you root for certain guys if you were a total casual like a Joel Damon.”

Yeah, this is good stuff in there. Yeah, but I don't know just it just leaves me wanting of like I don't think it had to be. And either or right like I don't think it has to be just for the casual non golf and or just for the core fans like I feel like they've spent the better part of three or four years filming for full swing and I can't imagine all the good stuff that's just sitting there collecting dust on the cutting and floor and I know that they filmed it for us for that specific.

For that specific reason, but again, it just feels like man like I don't know I'm just thankful to the tour for finally doing something for core fans.

Yes, instead of just dangling shiny objects over to people who don't give a shit about golf which I get it we got to we got to get them in the boat, but you got to keep some people in the boat too.

“Yeah, I mean, just thinking like the combo with Joe in in Oxjown 17 T of just pitching wedge versus nine iron and just here in the back and forth of what that looks like imagine that in in the final group if they get one of these in the final group.”

The players and like if they had JJ spawn his conversation on the Monday playoff last year of you know we had that like that just as a clip that's going to live forever man of of your one of your core championships so good on them for that one. You want to run down to any other notes here, T Santa Roy released his champions dinner menu, I know that's got to be had to get yeah I'm sure you put that on the magnifying glass this week. A lot of people tagging me in on this. Listen, the wine list is awesome and you know, props to Rory, he can put put what he wants on his menu, I was a little bit disappointed.

I'll say I thought the, uh, what had you disappointed just not an hour and I don't know like the the mains, I think I mean disappointed like I don't know I like the local flavor with the peach and ricotta flab bread rock shrimp tempura fine bacon rap dates those of god who's mom. I like that grilled elx lighters I wonder if he's certain Scotty style, you know that's fine he said it was eating a lot of L class year yellow Fintuna Carpaggio it's a delightful dish. That's a delightful dish, right? That's a that's a you know Daniel balloon or ever up in up in New York.

Then the like the the fullet that's just where it kind of threw me a little bit of like I think we can do better I think we can get a better a better more flavorful cut in there and seeered salmon like it just I don't know I guess it's just a very Irish dish there.

I'm sure the video on your ring will be great the Irish champ and all of that and sticky top you putting always good can't go wrong.

Okay, so but it's a good it makes it happy that's yeah, that's all that matters.

“I would happily this meal for the record I looked at the mayors like sounds good I would really do that meal totally it's all a not not much lettuce on there.”

I know that that's good. But like the people I just thought that some of the people who are like this is the best one ever. Like no, this isn't even fucking close like you say. We're gonna have online T say no way deki rom I mean there is a moment like there's there's been some really good ones.

Randy I put this in here for you teach you how championship is this coming I didn't realize it's the best of three is Monday and Tuesday.

But I've got to jupelick golf club you cannot kill them.

“You realize the finals formats Hollywood rock double header on Tuesday.”

Well if they if it goes to a game three if game three is a double header on Tuesday, but to put off the upset on. Boss the call but I'll do is it really stuck he was really bad. I did not play that the triple header. He might have been taken a little bit of a dive we do lose oxy to the to the hero. Did open and kids that means kids will be back for the championship.

So I don't feel great about our chances but hey chip in a chair man we just cannot cannot kill these guys it. It was entertaining again man it really was what's they got hot and the hammer strategy with like your season on the line at the very end. Randy I know it's not for you.

I'm doing what I said I would never do which is try to convince anyone that it's worth watching but you know there's been a couple weird like payoff moments late in the season so I don't.

I'm happy for you so thank you. I'm happy for you. It's very randy I mean they're they're clearly like putting their thumb on the scale is for all right solid did you see the ball hop out of the bunker to. Listen that's my biggest beef with the whole thing is how bad the tech not like how bad the gameplay is I will continue to say that it just looks like and I swear I've played Nintendo 64 games that have like better looking screen and gameplay and like just it. It's like the ball is like dimpleless and there's there's there's great stands without people and it like it looks terrible and they did not improve that part of it and I think they got to get that right they got to fix the delay from the ball hitting the screen and get going and it's not it's not perfect Randy I never said it was okay so don't don't don't you don't you put those words about.

L.A. G.C. is currently minus 140 when two points plus plus 120 again L.A. G.C. L.F. just call the hotline just do it. Is is Tommy is Tommy going to play.

“Tommy's in the lineup. Yes. So Tommy saw him and I'm assuming team rose. I believe that to be the case Collins banged up.”

He's locked up. He's locked up. Yes, it is official lineup. I have it here rose. Tommy inside. That's right. It's Max Tom Kim and Kissner. So there was an article that was going around a little bit on the webs this week. Money in sport article diving into a little bit diving into the PGA tour. It's kind of financial situation. I'll just read the beginning of the article. It says after 30 committee meetings the PGA tour is future competition committee still hasn't resolved with the 207 schedule will look like.

This analysis reveals why the economics don't support the tours ambitions. In the article says by analyzing nonprofit disclosures media markets revenue trends and sponsored longevity for the 20 tournaments that published financials. We identify which events can thrive in a restructured tour and which cannot the finding fewer than seven tournaments currently meet the criteria for sustainable signature events. This was getting circulated in the in the the the bought part of the world as well as on as on the.

And I'm sure you know, yeah, yeah, as well as the journalistic side. I reached out to a lot of different people on this Sunday of like just for a reaction on this and a lot of different walks of. You know, people that work on the buy side, you know, and they're involved in PGA tour events people that work with the tour people that used to work with the tour. Hey, I've just he checked this one was going on here and the answer was pretty unanimous of like yeah, this is horribly incomplete. This is not very good analysis at all.

It's a wild conclusion to reach without looking at the top level finances of the PGA tour at all as well just kind of looking at individual nine 90s of individual events which. There's weird accounting and professional golf and how media rights deals work and all that stuff is like you couldn't project what the model looks like just by looking at individual tournament 90s.

If that is the whatever the case is the conclusions reached in this in this article were bad it was it was tough. And we've cited money and sport in the past and I made I kind of maybe regret doing that because I was kind of trusting them a bit more than than I do now after having read that read that one. Yeah, it's not very well sourced. Yeah, I mean what did Danny Cash have to say. Well, I'm I'm bringing this up because I it is an idea for a future Denny Cash episode if there if it please reach out to me you can always reach out solid no link up to a comment if you ever curious for the next kind of finances tackle that we'll they'll do in that world because those episodes.

This is telling Denny to reach out to you or potentially. Yeah, I haven't heard from Denny since the latest episode went out, but you know, Denny's of course worked in this part of the world he could tell us exactly how this stuff works. It is complicated, it's very complicated, but at the same time the tour has an overwrite overarching massive media deal that helps fund a lot of persons. And it's not like it made it sound like the tours reaching into their coffers to top up all these tournaments and that's just it's not that it's it's a lot more complicated than it's not that that simple so anyways.

Anything else from the tour side T.C. Jerry Tarty had a outrageous outrageous column over a golf digest. There's just the there's some doozy's in there.

His you know it quote his message was consistent and strong and I'm rooting for him, but I wish he played golf my first impression.

“Who's talking about, who's talking about Brian roll out, okay, our money it up a little bit although I think he likes playing the role of scrappy every man who will outwork you to the end zone.”

That was his reputation at the NFL where he was known for his intelligence strategic vision and relentless pursuit of ever higher media rights is analytical patient and on emotional and it's like. All right, like all that's true, but I wish the guy dressed better because it's just like. And the most outrageous just go read it. It's it's funny. We didn't like it. Michelle notes here as well. Otherwise, I saw wind him harded ways with his longtime caddy John Ellis.

You know, so we'll see kind of which direction he goes. From here and then yeah, just looking ahead to Houston Scotty. He said, he ended up this week, Mason, how is in the field, my sponsor exemption as well, so curious to see him in. You know, playing playing at Memorial Park, which as you all know, slaps.

The first of two times we'll get you Memorial Park.

Yeah, women going. Well, I'm struggling to marry last year's result, which was just bomb it anywhere. Chris got her up saying in Jason's identity anywhere.

“As you said with it's slapping CC, I think it did before the overseen though.”

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“I think you can call that a dope course.”

Pinehurst X. I think the that one's only going to keep getting better as it keeps growing in. And then we're going to later this year to see number 11 as well. The new core credentialed join, which looks intimate and spectacular thus far. So, Randy, you want to take us on a little play by play from the founders this past weekend?

Yeah, sure. Founders, listen, important event on the LPGA tour. It honors the original 13 founding members. We've talked about it in years past. But I really dig the idea behind this tournament.

I think it should be one of the bigger week to week events on this tour. And they finally got back to a course that I think was worthy of hosting this event. If you'll remember if years back, they were up in the northeast, Montclair, Country Club, and then they lost that. And they were out in Arizona last year, and that's stunk.

And they were mentioned ridge before Montclair. Yeah. So I want to talk about Sharon Heights, but let's do a little play by play. Yoju Kim won the tournament and then up in a duel, her and Nelly Corda. Yoju entered the day five shots up on Nelly.

They were playing together in the final group.

Nelly went on a run in the first nine.

Both she and Yoju bogey the second. But then Nelly ripped off birdies on 3567 and nine. And then got one on 10. And at that point, we had a tie ball game, because Yoju was just kind of spinner and wheels.

She made a couple birdies on the front nine. But then bogey to eight. And so guys, we get to 13. And this is kind of where I want to really pick up the play by play. If anybody wasn't watching wild, wild turn of events.

13 is a part three kind of almost a bull. Like definitely a feeder pin off of a back. Back bull, just beyond the pin. And it was playing.

“I think like 187, they were saying on TV.”

And so it was, you know, the win or hit mid irons to hybrids. I think Yoju hit. I don't know if it was a wood or a hybrid.

But she kind of tugged it.

And it ended up going long and it ran up the bank. And then all the way to the 14th T-box. So she didn't get any of the slope advantage. Kind of funneling it back to the pin. It left her in a very, very tricky spot where she took a lob wedge.

And was having to contend with that same downhill that she failed to use off the T. She hits this little flopper wedge on the green. This thing has speed. I think guys it's going off the green, right? Like it's it's bogey at best.

But it hits the middle of the flag stick. Ricochet is to about four or five feet. And she's able to make that part plus. And in hindsight, I think this is where she wins the tournament. Because she would go on on 14.

Nellie hits an inside of her. It's a par four. He'll do has what are we going to call it?

“Solid 25 feet for birdie with some break.”

And she cans it and Nellie misses her put. And so between the huge break off the flag stick on 13. And then making the birdie on 14.

She would never relinquish this lead.

Nellie tried to run her down. She did run her down. Yeah. Then she did run her down. But after that she didn't, right?

Or am I missing? Oh, I mean. Yeah. I feel like she did. She just forgot to make the two footer.

Well, then we get to 17 where Nellie is trailing by just a single shot again. And again, Royju was in a tough spot. Really tough spot. Long of the green over a hill, tons of rough behind the ball. Pitches up tight.

Like it was an awesome show. Nellie ends up missing like and putting a half. Maybe two foot. Put. It was three to four probably.

I mean, she was out. She was out a way. For more information. I think it was probably three. Yeah.

Okay. I want to give me. Put a coin on it. Yeah. She put that bad thing needs to make.

And so she drops a shot there. She falls two shots behind with that bogey. The 18th is a par five. Kim hits it into the bunker, which kind of takes, you know, it is a big. Like up I guess.

Up I guess the boy where she's kind of got a splash out.

“Did he issue it to three shots to get out of that bunker earlier?”

So you're thinking like, Nellie, like you have the firepower to get home in two. Like maybe make Eagle. Like this is okay. We got a chance now. And then Nellie falls her up with a fairway would right into that same bunker.

And I was like, Jesus Christ. What are we doing here? It was dry. It wasn't driver. I mean, it was three wood or two.

It was three wood for Nellie. Yeah. Yeah. It felt like driver probably easily gets past that. I would think.

It probably like lands where the bunk. You know, it's like, I'm sure. I don't know what she was thinking. Honestly, it's probably landing like where the bunker is. But yeah, would have rolled out at ton.

Nellie gets out. She's further back away from the lip. So she hits out. It's her third. Just behind the green.

And she's like barely barely on the fringe. She ends up shipping has to make it does not make it. So H.J. She's flashed out. She's what on the grid.

She ends up having to put from about five and a half feet.

This to keep things a little interesting. But taps in for a bogey winds by a stroke. She finishes 16 under Nellie 1500. But guys, we got a fun duel. I think that's the big takeaway.

The golf course.

“I think there are three big takeaways for me.”

One, we got a fun duel between two like world class players.

Obviously, Nellie being involved is always great for everybody.

I thought the golf course was a really good surprise. And I want to ask you guys about the golf course in your reactions. And then it was a real first look at this enhanced LPGA tour broadcast. And I think it's indisputable that it's a better production than what we've seen the last, I mean, several years in these week to week events, right?

Better cameras, more cameras, drones that really showed the scale, the slopes of Sharon Heights golf club. A lot more trackmen, you know, they have a partnership with trackmen. So a lot more tracers, some ball data, ball speed, apex heights. They were flashing some heat maps of the green and the sick. Late in the day, kind of showing the slopes there.

We're going to get that on PGA tour broadcasts. Yeah, so, so yeah, so all the other way back to you. Do we want to start with Sharon Heights, the broadcast. Yeah, I think it all works together. One afternoon.

Yeah, it all works together. It was in prime time. It was drew in our slacks at a graze. It makes me want to play golf. Like it did.

“I was like, yeah, it brought everything a lot.”

So what I, what I don't like about watching LPGA tour sometimes is it can be. It can feel like a putting contest where you're just watching put some repeat. And you're just watching shots in the fairway from the from behind the green. You know, and it just like there's no. There's no context for any of the shots.

There's no story building of how the holes are playing. And combining the drones with some handheld cameras and some firmness in the golf course. I get that it was a fun golf course combined with new angles and watching it. Like watching a dual on it was great of every shot. There was a, you know, an advantage to playing in certain parts of the fairway.

It wasn't a brilliant golf course, but there was just some wrinkles in it that made it all. Interesting. And sprinkling in a little bit of drone footage just to show how dramatic the landscape is. And what you're playing over and how like just the intention to detail and all those bunkers. How firm it played it just it looked like somebody gave a shit man.

And I do not walk away from watching LPGA tour right and it's like you were capable of this. And I know FM is really stepped up to to improve the coverage and we had a great interview with Craig. We had a great interview with Craig cast for the LPGA tour commissioner this past week. And I, they were saying a lot of great things. I was nervous about, you know, about how good it would look this early on.

And it's, it's not groundbreaking. It's not like this jumps the LPGA tour straight to the top of musc tv. But it, it levels the playing field better. It just, you're not watching a series dip in quality now of an actual telecast. It has, it's me. It's way easier to get invested in the story line unfolding.

Just little things like they got little like player intros that pop up now.

And it was three fun facts about Nelly that I never heard before.

It's just like her coffee order, her superstition. And I forget what the other one was. But it was just like, oh, everybody. Which is needle pointed needle point. Yeah, there we go.

And like, oh, okay, that's, that's an little extra layer on things. I'm ramming it, but they did a great interview and great dive in on with Natasha Andrew oon on Friday. And documenting like her journey get to the LPGA tour. Like they paused the golf for a little too long and just interviewed her for like 10 straight minutes. Like they could have done a little bit of both.

I'm be a picky, but it was, it was just, they got player caddy combos. They got like the boom my guys are getting aggressive out there. And I do get in trouble. Like go mess things up, do some things differently. I feel like they are, they're on, I'm, I feel like they're really backing up all the things they said of this thing's going to be dramatically improved.

And I'm excited about it. TC. Yeah. Yeah, I thought. Sorry.

It took up like eight things there. Oh, that's right. Oh, yes. Oh, it's, it's, I mean, shit. When are we ever had this problem?

Well, no, PG and broadcast.

“I think the drone stuff brought that course to life with all the, you know,”

the, you know, the 9th hole's great. There's like, I don't know. I thought the setup was good.

Like they made him hit really like real shots down the stretch, which isn't always the case in an LPJ event.

The greens were firm. The place firmed up like crazy. T shots are all just on it. Yeah, there was no, yeah. Yeah, there was no intermediate cut.

It just went straight from like of, you know, 10% grade fairway to, so like start lines were super important off the T. And shaping, you know, shaping the ball in the slopes was was important.

Like the ball was on the ground, whether it was, you know, and, and, like,

Great penultimate hole 17 pole there.

“Going back like even, like, you know, had a really good up and down or, like,”

really good power put, you got 16 to kind of, like, walk it in and, like, it was, it was a producer's dream in that it was a dual. There was two players that were involved from, like, say young Kim made a little bit of noise, but, like, otherwise it was, it was a, it was a two hours race for the better part of the day from, you know,

for 12 or 12. Probably like two holes. Rock cast window. Yeah. It was like, they got preempted a little bit by the olds at the Colo Guard.

Oh, they went to a playoff and then they gave us a little tease. And then they went back to the playoff, but, you know, when, when, when, all-quer one, but I thought, um, yeah, I mean, all this stuff,

you said solid and, and yeah, it's just like a dream of, like,

Nelly charging, you know, damn near birdies, six or seven holes in a row, like, even on what was that eight, eight or nine, like, she didn't, like, Jim Birdie, but she had a good look. And then, yeah, and then, like, it wasn't great golf down the stretch, but it was really entertaining, interesting golf and it was topsy-turvy.

Um, but man, I just wish, like, I feel like we're getting more emphasis and more, um, on the production value. But it still feels like the same. Howling. If you close your eyes commentary.

Same exact. Yeah. As years prior. So I was going to say a couple nits to pick, I guess. Oh, let me, let me start here.

So I think you made a great point about, like, this event last year was at a non-descript desert course, and you would have tuned in, and you would have seen just, okay, hit fairway, hit green balls, not really moving. Like, and this is a credit to the golf course. T.C. like you said, the ball was bent.

The ball was moving on the ground much more so than your, then your typical L.P.G.A. kind of week to week venue, I think, produces. And so you just inherently have interest there. The slopes, uh, working balls back to the pins.

Uh, if you miss the slope, you know, you're, you're kind of working away. Fantastic. Uh, I'm with you. Just, just on that note, too, like, the club clearly supported the tournament. Like, club in the surrounding area, good crowds.

Um, recent renovation of the club.

I think they spent $23 million.

It shows like it's, it's a cool spot, cool trees, cool.

“Like, that's what, like, when I tune into,”

like, the prime. Like, you're in a North cow. Like, that's what I want to see. Like, there was a sense of place. And it kind of transported me there versus, and like, that's the thing.

Like, give me, give me prime time. You know, L.P.G.A. golf. You know, there in, from 6 to 9 p.m., or 7 to 10 p.m., if we get later in the year, like, give me that more often on, on interesting golf courses that, that the men can't go to.

Like, sign me up. That's the, that's the recipe. At least four weeks a year. I think to Randy's point, like, all this beefed up coverage wouldn't have hit the same if they were at a dog shit.

Of course, near his own. Okay. I think this enhanced production deserves an infusion of energy into the, the broadcast, into the people on the broadcast. And I, and I thought there was kind of a starkness to, wow, I'm seeing this,

this whole new broadcast. But if I close my eyes, it sounds like every old, you know, like, guys, Morgan Pressel is not it for me. And I don't necessarily want to like, pick on her. But I just don't think she does a great job.

I think she's pretty flat and monotone. I don't think she, like, builds energy for the viewer. And I don't even think she, like, gives that great of insights.

“Most of the time, I think it's pretty just stock.”

Like, oh, yeah. No, like, you, you said kind of what we were all thinking. I would switch that chair up if I were in charge of, of the broadcast. I, I just wish we could marry this production with, like, a refreshed team of talent.

And, and, and bring those things together. And then let's really kind of set sail on a new chapter in televising women's golf. And I'm sure there are contracts. And so I, I would love to touch on the interview.

You did with Craig Kesslerx. I think some of this stuff ties in there. Just any kind of thoughts after the episode ran and anything that's been in your head. But that's one thing that sticks out.

And then two, because it was a duel. And the good news is we're going to be back at this course for the founders. At least for the next two years.

Talk to me about what these holes are.

“You know, where are the best places to, like, fit your drive?”

Where's it going to go? You know, this can live. Have a, have a player. The, the, the, live has done this where they have a player. Voice over the hole and talk about the strategy that goes into it.

Like, do that. You don't need to be original here. Do that idea. Like, that's a great. You want to hear your player personalities out there.

And a, a little bit, of course, documentation there. Like, Hell yeah.

Yeah, I feel like the, the commentary feels like a bad impression of a pro golf broadcast.

It feels like a bare minimum to me. And I like it. Yeah. Like Morgan, like, it really like a dozen times today. We're like, what she said was just like flat out wrong.

Like the ball ended up in a different place. Like, I don't know if she's, that's not showing up on her monitor or whatever.

“But it's just, and then I think like the, with Grant and Morgan and Karen.”

In the booth, it just feels like one plus one plus one equals like one and a half. I feel like Karen. It's not the best version of Karen because she doesn't really know what her role is. There, you know, like there's, there's just too many. Too much going on.

So yeah, all that to say, like, I would.

Mel read or yeah, just we need some, just a rethink on the commentary. So yeah, so I would. Can we, can we? Well, I'd like to. Yeah, I'd like to.

I was just going to throw out like. It's clear from talking to Craig, both, you know, on the air and off the air and like talking to the Chad, like. They've put a lot of ideas into play very quickly. They've made a lot, they've taken a lot of action very quickly. And I'm, like, they're listening, like they're listening to feedback.

So like you, you mentioned the commentary changed there, but like what else would you put on your list of like. If they're listening to, you know, what people are saying of what they want. Uh, out of LPJ tour golf, what, what, what, what's next up on your list? Like, what, what do you, what do you go on to next to say, like, let's tackle this? I'm really curious how they're able to handle, uh, showing more players across a golf course.

I, I think that's one thing that I, I did not necessarily get answered. Uh, and they did not need to this again. This was a dual all day today. Um, but I think, I think. In the past where we've seen LPJ broadcast struggle is like they have a very small amount of cameras out there.

And so I think, uh, there will be a time hopefully sooner than later, where it's like, hey, this is a wide open tournament. We got players making charges. Like, let's show a lot of golf shots from across the golf course. And not just you're like, this is the tower shot of a, of a ball landing, or we cut to somebody making the birdie put, right? Like, I want to see.

I want to see more, uh, building the drama, showing us what's going on in the tournament. That would be one thing. I am really curious. I don't have a great answer, except for like, maybe the NFL films people can come out once or twice a year. But like, I know Craig, as he mentioned in your, in your podcast with them.

So everybody should listen, if you miss the podcast that you and Cody did with Craig, I thought he was great. And, but I know one of his pillars is we have to tell the stories of these athletes. We have to get people invested in who they're seeing on the television screen. And so, um, just flashing the little like facts about people today, like, yeah, that's, that's a nice thing.

But I'm just curious what, maybe they haven't mind to those ends. Is it, and I'll say, like, a big part of his, like, just get the boom mics, get the player catty combos, like pick up audio on the golf course. Uh, I think goes a long way. So we'll be curious what that entails.

Um, and then I just think the big thing for me that, uh, is going to play a big role in, in all of this is, I hope it's next year. Like, they're going to have to really, really, really, really make this schedule and rethink this schedule.

“And I think that's the elephant the room right now is like, what is that going to look like?”

And right now they're playing tournaments, January two things giving in November. And it's like, that's too long of a season. I'm, I'm really, I can't wait to see what this reimagine schedule and season looks like. I guess would be my overarching thing. And I think my, my stuff is, yeah, mainly around set up, which we saw better set up this week.

And some of that's because they're on a good golf course, but also they did allow it to dry out. And they did put pins in, like on Thursday, I remember firing it up and seeing the pin on. It was a ninth hole, like, tucked right behind this bunker. I was like, whoa, that's different. Yeah, you know, they kind of, you got to hit a shot to get it back there.

And you know, what's seven, you know, 15, 16, 1700 par, like it was out there, like there were plenty of birdies out there,

but there were consequences and bogies to be had as well, which is, you know, just felt consequential.

“I think on the, the schedule front Randy, that's where I go to immediately.”

I know this is easier said than done, but, you know, I think the West Coast thing this time of year is, is a no-brainer. Like, I keep coming back to like, chambers bay and like watching, you know, like granted, that would have to be later in the year. But like watching the U.S. Hammott Chambers Bay, a couple years ago, or the U.S. Women's Hammott Chambers Bay is awesome, right? Like, give me that, or, I don't know, I watched like the Western Intercollegiate at Pasatempo. Like, give me like a L.P.GA match play made for TV at Pasatempo, you know.

The golf tickets would, I mean, that'd be awesome.

Yeah, and I feel like you're, you know, you're kind of leaning in on like, alright, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, it's kind of appointment viewing, right? You, you know, you're kind of proven to people. I think there's a lot of, like, and I know it's, like, it's easier said than done up east with a lot of country clubs.

“It's a, it's a shorter season, and like, they don't want to host pro golf, men or women, right?”

It's just, you, they don't want to give up their courses, so I think some of these, having some like founders that bounce around a little bit is awesome. I think they should go to the park in, in West Palm. I think that place would be killer for it.

Like, you do, like, you start the season there, you have a big Florida event.

There are a lot of ladies live in that area anyway. Whether it's good this time of year would play fast and firm and, like, that place was made for, for this style of golf. Yeah, and I don't know, I mean, I think the, the high in the sky would be, I think that they should throw up a hill Mary and say, alright, one side of the next five to 10 years. PGA tour, let us, let us come host the ladies event at TPC's progress. Yeah. And I know that that gets complicated with optimum and calm cast business and Morgan Stanley or the proud partners and figure it out.

You do piggyback the weeks or something if you had it, but I'll just make the point, saw grass and Augusta are the only two courses in golf that we get to see the men that we don't see the women at. And I, yeah, and those are two courses. I would love to see the women. I think it's all the, I miss one thing and this has been like, they have to, they have to have better. One, we got to do a better website and we got to do a better app. Like, I cannot tell you how frustrated I am opening the LP J app and it asked me to either sign in and continue as a guest every single time.

Like Craig, Chad, if you're listening, that is fucking ridiculous. Like fix that tomorrow. Just take me to the main page. I know we're on the right path with track man and being able to collect better information, but we just got to be able to tell, we got to have the stats available, the data available to tell better stories of what's actually happening. Because I think that's, you, you can only get so far talking about the human interest stuff at some point. You got to marry it with like, okay, what's their skill or what's their weakness? What do we have to get better at?

Like we, we have to very, objectively know what we're watching. Maybe perfect example today. Nellie had, Nellie had, she made one, two, three, four, five, she made six birdies and had 32 putts. I would love to be able to dig a little bit deeper into that. Yeah, right, right. And I get that they're doing the KPMG, but it's still just like, caddies, eye and stuff.

Like they, they have to have short link data.

“That's how they're doing the putts. You know, it's one thing for all the balls and play.”

I use the, you know, the caddy data for tees and greens and everything works fine, but just being able to, whatever. That, yeah, maybe, maybe I'll put that on my list. And I would just say continuing to zoom in on just making the broadcast more and more intimate. Like I did great jobs with player caddy combos and low handheld cameras in fair ways to show off layers and things, just the more you can make it zoom in there. I want players telling camera crews to back up.

All right, like the guy that guy got like on the green filming Nellie, which he was sitting on the sprinkler on whatever whole that was. Like I was like, what does that kid, that kid we guys get in there? Oh, he's talking to me, she's staying on the sprinkler head. Like I want to see the kid keep getting aggressive and keep leaning into ways. You could make things a little bit different and just do not be afraid to try a single thing.

Just the way they're social is already changed a lot of just like the way they introduced us to Natasha Andrew this week was super interesting or press.

Keep keep doing that and and they're going to it's going to continue to prove so great first step and help keep the obviously the venues in the schedule is is paramount like way more important than anything else.

“And I feel like next week we're going to have a we're going to have a step back next week at the Arizona.”

Yeah, but then very curious how they set up shadow creek in a few weeks shadow creek is sweet.

Yeah, I know back to the Gulf. He owed you Kim winning with so many so much less in the tool category than melecorda has of like watching mele back spin one and the part three, 17th with like a nine iron and why I know he owed you kind of pulled it and hit a hot at a hot car all, but like it's what even close to be able to hold that green gets it up and down just to watch mele three put it like watching. It seems like she had so many bad shots and she shoots like 17 under par and wins it like it's just a really wild the impressive scrambling ability and short game.

I don't think like I swear she was not anywhere off from 141 or 142 ball speed on any drivers I saw today is the exact same like almost every single time.

And I just have so much respect for it because it's just she's so scrappy and so tough and just not someone I would want to be locked into a duel with. I was joking with my wife was watching with me and I was like kind of which we had like live loop data on Jojo because I swear like her heart rate wouldn't get above 80 like she just Cody and I got to do the program at the.

“The AIG women's open last year and she's like just so chill so even keeled and I think her personality reflects in her golf game solid to your point where it's just so steady so consistent like when she's on she's she's just.”

Like she's she's just flushing it she's she's hitting it properly and then she's got a good enough short game you know when she's making pots it's like yeah she's a top 10 player in the world like that that's that's the formula. She just doesn't seem to get bothered by anything and so even when you have Nelly mounting this charge and you know net Nelly can do some things with the ball and in the clubs that she can't it's just. Jojo went about her business got a great break on 13 and parlated into into a win I love the contrast I guess a little bit I thought that's partly what made this.

Dual interesting was like you had a real contrast in playing style personality and popularity for an American audience. I knew I was watching this final round I was looking forward to it. I perused my you know here in Colorado so Gina was even money to finish top five I said oh my god give me that all day and she goes on she's a freaking 73.

“I know I think I was just seem like just sloppy she just seemed not on it just sloppy I think that the question we want to see Gina answer is when the ball rolls a lot on the ground.”

Can she be the best player in the world or does she need it soft and scoreable and yeah I think this was an interesting data point to that and he seems to be coming around.

Well that brings me to our to our next question we have what about one month out from the first major the year of course there's five majors on the women side.

I couldn't figure out a non confusing way to word this one as well but like you get to name where you try to pick the major winners for this year we're not going to try to match them up with the actual majors all right but if you had to pick five players. To win majors this year and if you know if one of your your players wins multiple majors that that counts as well but you get five players to cover the board on the LPGA tour this season or like assume there's a different winner for everyone. Who would your five major winners be if you had to try to pick to get as many points as possible for this year Randy I'll start with you.

All right I mean I guess it be shocked if I got to take Gina and I got to take Nelly yeah I'm just putting those to on the board. And I think after that it's a little interesting I think Hannah Green is somebody and I know TC we're going to mention she won the Australian women's PGA for third win in in three starts across both the LPGA and the LIT I only think Hannah gets more interesting because they're going back to Hazel team which is where she won for her women's KPMG PGA championships so yeah give me give me Hannah Green I think she's been knocking at the door for the last couple years.

date a boy yeah so give me Hannah I'm going to take I always feel good about mingely winning a major that was my fourth and then for my fifth I was thinking I I need a Japanese player I'm going to go with one of the e-wise and I picked Chisato e-y for my fifth.

to see what's your five yeah all right I'm going to go and prepare this or do need to know I did I did I'm just Randy's in my head now.

Yeah we got Hannah Green she got her husband Jared on the bags like she's she's went in everything in sight but.

“I don't know if we're going I don't know I think with him is going to be really interesting I think we've been fascinating fascinating fascinating test like one of the tournaments I'm.”

most excited for this year but I'm going to go the angel in okay I think she wins hazel teen.

And just re course so we played with her at his team and I just make it that out of my head of like she's just she's just.

Taylor made it for that course I got mingy as well I think mingy wins something like Riviera. And then I've got me you yamashita as well I've got two two jab no no no no no no no no no no no interesting good on you T.C. truly because I I thought I was when I saw somebody's question I why don't we just make it three will take Nelly and G you know but good on you for for buck and that and I thought about Lydia or. I don't know I don't know where Lydia's heads at right she feels like she's yeah it was like she's kind of got one foot out the door.

When I struggle with it and so I know I'll set you up here for your five but.

One like picking the right Japanese women woman and then running in I didn't know what to do with because she hasn't been playing great call but so I give us your five who do you well yeah I don't have a Japanese woman that feels off but I was mostly because I couldn't decide on which one to pick. G no I got Nelly Chevron that's that was going to be my thing of like the oversee though and it being you know played played well for distance on the men's side last year it makes me think this could be a gas pedal event for Nelly.

“I think that this should be circled on our calendar that should be a very very very good course fit for her I got hand as well I got mingy Lee and I got lotty road so mine is a make up between your two lists.”

This was a little harder to do than I thought it would be I thought I was going to get a little further down the board but. I've pretty much on it that I think genome wins one this year the Nelly Chevron match up is what if no it doesn't win Chevron I think that one could miss quite easily. Maybe sleeping a little bit on Lottie Road just a little bit just been a little quiet lately and then men g just fourth major is a lot I'd be a lot but I just there's just once it gets into that hard US women's open.

Hard GPMG women's PGA live them and then we've seen her have success of course at Avian as well I could just hard not to take her to win one I'm fascinated to see how they set up. Like that you know the fourth hole like how are they going to set up how far up are they going to move the T's otherwise nobody's going to hold the green I bought mingy every year that was when I was kind of like when it gets tough I like mingy I think we're we're probably all missing and I don't know who it is but like not having a Korean winner feels like a very big miss I absolutely.

“I know I'm not going out of limb but certainly a Korean women could win at least one major this year.”

There's only two Korean women in the top 10 in the world right now which is. I hate you as it showed you in the head on rule yeah you do and say young Kim oh say young okay it on 13th. Interesting she slipped yeah okay yeah I mean there's only four in the top 20 there's twice as many Japanese ladies so. I also really wanted to pick Charlie Hall but like I until she I just to actually I'm going to have to see yeah I was headed that way and I looked at us I don't think so I just. I just don't got a lot of runner-ups but not consistent major performance.

A bit it's rosang when a LP J fan this year.

“Yeah I'll say she does that's hard to say yes to that right now.”

She's we're coming up on two years since she's won one. We just need to get school we gotta get the school stuff out of the way and then I got to I got to talk to some people figure out if she's like healthy there's some things we got to figure out there but. I'm in Randy you know it hurt me to not not pick Lynne Grant.

Who wouldn't have made that Swedish I know that was the other kind of country.

Right now just seeing the in all you when it could put these in the the in all you record last year you predicted a win and five major and five worldwide wins for genome. She won three times last year. I don't know you can't work the lady Saudi that she won four she won four times but no major you were. And she's been from that being exactly right that was a great all yeah. You're exactly right all right we're going to get canceled online for waiting an hour and forty minutes to get to TC's favorite event live South Africa.

“It's a very very very very very wet I think it's a watch much until they got watch the 80th element into the playoff but.”

People were very certain a group of people were extremely jazzed up about getting Bryson Ram this morning. We're a rom one of your quote unquote dudes got beat by Bryson was allegedly not a dude your opinion is not yet. Been officially crowned a dude correct once you're a dude can you fall out of dude. So that was nothing we haven't been gone through it's like it's it's kind of how I'm doing this is when you put somebody in the dude category it's a you it's at least a year long commitment like you you are committing to like that.

From that point that person is going to be here a year from now still being like a dude in these tournaments. He doesn't like he doesn't he's the boo he like everybody says that about him he's the boo he doesn't like have serious dips in his play he's.

He's always there I but like.

He's one recently like he's wrong still of he rom is do you really wrong's a better golfer than Bryson. Yeah I mean it's the same conversation from South Africa stuff but yes, I don't know you just they're certain that yeah I don't know but some of it comes back to like. You're essentially making the same argument that I make for Tommy absolutely I'm not John wrong is one two major championships DC. I'm saying over the last the last couple of years rom hasn't one much. He's gone live correct like he hasn't even one much on live which is crazy.

No it's he's still like there he's still playing very consistent golf roll wide like he's still the floor is extremely high with rom he doesn't that part does not go away is my overall point of why he's dude.

“Anyway I think I don't know I just I think Bryson's Bryson's ceiling needs to be recognized.”

It's extremely high Bryson is a very very high ceiling so I think I think Sanders next up in nomination before Bryson is is a is a point that we could table that conversation we'll get there. I kind of think you're under selling Bryson one's a COVID one at wingfoot like that the other one was like monally monally gets rory at correct hinders on a fantastic. Bright and zander one two majors that year so read the tweets read the tweets. The tweets were from the early part of the week are low white. I had a tweet that says if you could shape your opinions with the broad view of the wider world and not a myopic and self serving obsession with a single nation's dominance of an entire sport.

Then it's just obvious determinants like this are fantastic for capital g golf and for a country like South Africa. That was that was from Arlo White Luke LV was very online this week. He said I'm never acknowledging another person who says live golf is meaningless the league is doing more to grow the game globally than anything or anyone else right now and all your hate towards it won't change that fact changes happening in real time.

Yeah, that I'm sure that they're going to get right around to that one. He also said if you've been an advocate for a united global tour like me listen to the joint emotion Burmy golf speaks with if you still believe all the best golf in the world should only play in America. Then unfollow me now you are the problem. It's just shame that it like live refuses to go to Chile right like they they they refuse to go to walk us home country they refuse to go to Argentina you refuse to go to. You gotta get to New Orleans Mary is corners of the world's golf tour you know it's totally underserved.

I'll say the same it's the same conversation after Adelaide it is very clear that there is a market for this level of golf. In South Africa they had massive crowds this week hundred thousand people there like the report you know the the vibe was incredible people were seriously into it.

It's still the same conversation to me it is not here's what here's the part that gets where where I'm at on this is like.

For everything that anyone involved this league has to make it about the PGA tour like everything they do has to be about the PGA tour like you're missing like. Just just every comment about it is just laced with like you guys are idiots for missing out on this there's no awareness nowhereness at all. But we have given this a shot we have looked into it we've watched it from afar from a competitive goal it's not why I love golf like it's not as a competitive enough product.

“It's where my interest goes in golf that's why I think wrong should not be playing there that's why I think Verizon should not be playing there I don't think cam special be playing there.”

and hadn't those guys belong on the best golf tour in the world. That's what I like about golf, like the most competition. Some people like music while you're playing it, they like, you know, big, it's a concert tour. They've concerts at every one of the, like, it's a great outdoor event. It's great for people to attend.

Every report I've ever heard of, people go to the events, say that they're fun. I don't get to go to, I don't travel the world to go to golf tournaments. I watch a lot of them on television. I have no interest in the television product of this, that's still the same. Like, you can, two of these things can be true.

It's great to bring some of these events, bring some of these really top-level players to these locations.

That was always an option in a different world.

They didn't do that until they were contracted with Saudi Prince money to go to these places. Some guys do go play Africa's major for the joke. For the joke, but I don't, I mean, yeah, I, I, I don't disagree.

“I think that there's good weeks on live and then I think the bad weeks are like really bad.”

Really bad. And this was like, this was a good week for live. Like, this is, again, a micro thing. I said, the same thing about Adelaide, micro. Like, is that a, is that event a good thing for the golf world? Like, of course, it is macro.

Was it worth blowing up the entire professional golf world for this? Is it worth that, from maybe Mr. Govrider Cup, which we could, again, get to. Is it worth him not being on, you know, playing in the players? That's absolutely not. Like, of course, it's not.

But that, it's, it's not that much more complicated. than that. And it, a lot of the sentiment this week was like, wow, the PGA Tour missed the boat. Like, they really missed the boat. Like, not taking this thing worldwide, not taking it global.

It's like, very clearly. Like, extremely clearly, the corporate interests for the PGA Tour are in America. Like, extremely clearly. Like, it is not in the PGA Tour's best benefit. Like, from a selling standpoint and dollar making standpoint to take their tour on the road.

And to like, operate these massive events at a loss in all these locations. Like, live is doing. Live is a very different model. They have unlimited funding from society prints. And it's not a real business, so they can afford to do this.

And, and make this big scene about it all and make us feel like we're all missing out on it. And like, it's just not a real thing.

It was never a real thing.

It wasn't a real thing for Ron. Ron never went to these places until he was contracted and had to do it. Like, there's probably a reason for that. I'm like, I don't know how else to say that. And nothing that happens on live is going to change like the facts of the matter.

God, I love when you get right out of the business. And I just like to, I don't know. It's happening. They'd be far better off. Just throw in a bunch of money to national opens and put in.

Stand up a massive, it could be so much better. I know, like, yeah, like that's where I think the DP world tour should just call them up and say, hey, we will bring your money into the ecosystem and give you an offer amp here for live. And so I just don't think you like the crushers either. They, who's my team?

“Smash, it was Smash, but you need to retake the quiz.”

I might need, not, I'm not that was TGL. Is there a live quiz, too? There was a live quiz, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Some of the, like, I read through all the press conference transcripts this week.

Just some outrageous stuff in there from all corners. I know that the crushers went off on rollback various things. Bryson, it was sort of crying. He had all sorts of, you just, yeah, just a lot going on. It seems for him personally.

No, but no details there. He paused for a group hug with the crushers behind the green there. I mean, the, the, the shorts will couldn't hit a driver down the stretch. And just, they, like, the Southern Guards is completely bottled at. They, they, they choked down their legs.

They're probably breaking their Randy and Brandy and Coke tonight. Bryson shot in the playoffs was absurd.

And it's dropped out of money at like 320 yards out of the rough.

Hit it under the end of their attitude. But it was an insane, insane shot.

“I, I think, gosh, looking elsewhere, David Pooch playing good golf right now.”

Another, like, T6 for him, Randy, your guy, Bon, Bon LaHiri. It's just so weird to see, like, Bon and Parallel's howl and then, like, Bryson. Because I just, just, just, just, just, and then Paul Casey's just there. Mikkelson was back this week. Uh, just kind of unceremoniously, Blandy, T12.

Pretty good week for my crush or for my, for my, for my, for my clicks. Yeah, they got clicks, uh, solo sixth this week. Just ahead of the high flyers beat Ripper, beat the aces, beat smash. You know, range goats are kind of all over the place. Korean golf club is just the Jrags this year.

They were DFL by nine. But, um, yeah, just some, some truly outrageous stuff as far as the, uh, as far as the press conferences. Like, they're just feeding these guys red meat. Yeah, the, uh, the, the, the paid live, uh, actual media people asking Bryson. Like, how does it feel?

Well, could you believe you're the most popular player in the world right now? It's like, okay, maybe, yeah, maybe that maybe it, the, the, do, could we do the rollback stuff? Like, Bryson, uh, was, I don't know what he was asked about it.

“But he would go on to say, if you want to say that a driver back in, uh, 2009 is worse now.”

I would actually disagree with you on that. I think they're relatively the same and not much has changed. You can change it that much. You can't change it that much with the rules being the way they are. That's so, that's so incredibly false.

The, the forgiveness on the drivers, like the tireless cheating on giving. It's so much more forgiving than even the TSR was. Like, that's documented through robot testing, too. Like, that's, that's crazy crazy false. And somebody that claims to be a, a physics major or physics physicist, like, wouldn't know that, of course.

Because I think it's a lot more than, uh, it's a lot more the athletic ability and not being as afraid to go after shots or swing harder or be more aggressive. Let the athletes be athletes and let's go have some fun. Again, try to marry those two things. Like, you literally said, allow not being afraid to go after shots.

The equipment's giving you free permission to whale on as hard as you can. Let's have some fun bright and what if my idea of fun is different? Like, why, why do, why do we assume a uniform definition of fun?

That's what I never understand.

Here's where I'm about to, about to blow by top, although this is, is this is the worst part of all of it. He said, what are the bodies of golf trying to accomplish? Are they trying to preserve the traditions and history of the game? Or they trying to grow the game because those are two different things.

They can cross over in some facets in some regard, but when you're trying to preserve the tradition and say, history of the game, yeah, you're going to want to go back to a golf all that's going shorter because players are more athletic. Yeah, you're going to want to shrink the heads. You're going to want to do this or that.

“But if you want to grow the game, that's not how you get kids to hit the golf ball farther and”

enjoy it and want to be a part of this game. They're out of bit of a crossroads right now and they have to answer those questions. What do these governing bodies really want? If they can answer that, then we can start moving in that direction. But right now, they have to answer that question before us players can get involved because

if they want something different, well, us players may want to make it easier for others like I do. So are you saying that the governing bodies have not, in fact, answered that question? Oh, my God, Bryce, and they have answered this question so many possible ways. In 2002, the joint statement of principles, the RNA and USDA said, any further significant increases in hitting distances at the highest level are undesirable.

Okay, question answered. Now, if you really want to get specific on this, and I'll try to get through this as fast as I possibly can, Bryson, the distance insights project February 4th, 2020, the USDA also said,

long-term future for two main reasons.

First, the inherent strategic challenge presented by many golf courses can be compromised,

especially when those courses have not or cannot become long enough to keep up with increases in the hitting distances of the golfers who play from the longest tease. Increased hitting distance can lead to a reduction in the variety, length, and creativity of shot types needed on such courses and to holes more often being overpowered by distance as well as to an increased emphasis on the importance of distance at the expense of accuracy and other skills.

This can begin to undermine the core principles that the challenge of golf is about using a broad range of skills in making risk reward judgments during a round. The result is also that an increasing number of such golf courses both widely renowned and less well-known are at risk of becoming less challenging or ultimately obsolete for those who play from their longest tease a serious loss for the game.

Would you like me to continue? That is, could that be any more clear? Could that be any more clear? Second, the overall trend of golf courses becoming longer has its own adverse consequences that ultimately affect golfers at all levels of the game as a whole.

Expanding existing golf courses and building longer new ones often requires significant capital investment and higher-op annual operating costs overall the trend toward longer golf courses put golf at odds with the growing societal concerns about the use of water chemicals and other resources. Precious for developmental restrictions and alternative land use and the need to mitigate the long-term effects of changing climate and natural environment.

We just need to answer these questions. This is second week in a road that the crushers have gone off on rollback or was this all the stuff from like a week ago? I thought this was all just this week. Okay, okay, maybe it was. I did see Bryson, you got to ask, you spoke about the driveable part of

fours. I know recently you spoke about the nine-told cypress point being one of your favorite risk reward holes in all of golf. Bryson said, "Yeah, it is." Question, I know you potentially have a golf project brewing in California. How much do you think about golf course architecture outside of being professional golf or

“playing golf? How much do you actually think about golf course design?”

Bryson, you have asked some of the most incredible questions this week.

I really appreciate your questions. All three of them have been amazing. Everybody has been great too. They've done a great job. Yes, I love the driveable part of fours. I am dabbling in some architecture design. I've already designed a few, waiting for them to get done. I quite honestly think about having two, potentially three driveable holes on each course. I think part three are two long nowadays.

I think it would be so cool to have a 40 or a 50 yard part three. Why don't we have that out here? Close my mind. I think one of the most brilliant things the USGA did at LACC was have that 55 yard part three. I was like 97 yards. I forgot what hole was. 15 or something like that. But it was such a brilliant design for that 55 yard shot. I think golf courses

should be more like that. There should be at least one hole that's super short that really makes

“you think. There's consequences to bad wedge shots. Bryson, you need to go down to”

Lacumbrei down in, there's a 66 yard part three down in Argentina. Also, he says, I think that would also speed up play. I think the game has gotten really long. We don't necessarily need that. I wonder why the game has gotten so long. You need to make the greens a little quirky and more unique and the shots a little more quirky and unique. That's what can make golf really fun. As I'm thinking about design moving forward in the future, there's some really

cool tricks up my sleeve that I want to apply or try on the golf course when I'm designing.

Very excited for that. But yeah, there will always be driveable par force on every golf course

that I design. It's all like this sounds like a pace of play nightmare. Like wildly tricked up par threes that you just can't get the ball in the hole on? Why is nobody doing this? That's a question to U.S. G.A.D.s to answer. They got it. Again, and he went up a growth of the game just again, a reminder. I believe I have these stats right between 2003 and 2018, golf saw decline of over 6.8 million players in more than 1200

course closures in that time. COVID brought it back. It was not, it is not big, it had drivers and the ball going far that is making golf thrive. It was in decline. I think every single year

“from 2009 all the way to 2019, if I remember that, I couldn't find the exact stat on that.”

If I remember right, so again, I'm just a complete false narrative of everything Bryce is getting into. But golf means, you know, golf needs its version of pickable is what I think. Just siphon off a bunch of people. Yeah, whatever that is, just to be honest. Plus to be that. And have a great time and that's awesome. And if that's what you did, then more power to you. And then like can we shrink the game and have golf be golf or those that

like golf? Bryce and also had another one. There was a question. It's very emotionally draining your profession, your sport. It's day one of four. Your finish on 18 was electric. What happens now with the rest of your day? How do you decompress? What are the things you do to go through

Personally for me, I'll go sign some autographs that actually re-energizes me. Makes me feel really

“good about what we're doing here. It gives me a little bit of life to go practice for a good 30 minutes.”

And hopefully, I figured out the driver real quick. Not at all at all. Once we get treated, actually the spa here is unbelievable. So I go into the salt tub and there's like a magnesium tub. Just crazy. That helps me relax quite a bit and I get treatment from our team. You can call me physio. He's not really a physio. But Ryan treats me and he makes me feel a lot better. And then I'll go relax. I'll probably go watch Pirates of the Caribbean or something tonight.

I was watching that last night. So that was fun. All right, we got to. We've got to Chris Pratt reference. This Chris Pratt quote about do I want to be somebody else or do I like I don't know what I want to be anymore 2022. I mean, just go read the transcripts. They're insane. It's week. On the DPRL tour of American Jordan Gumberg wins the What about China and on classic by one over Jorge Campillo. I didn't watch any of it. The pictures

of the golf course were insane. There was some actually some really cool holes out there. But give me, you got 90 seconds to get whatever you want in for this. The bullet market art,

Marcus armaged certain around in the form. Adrienne Tague with his third top 10 in a row.

Tough Sunday for Oklahoma State alum, Bo Jin. He totally bottled it. He was kind of in the driver seat here. Randy a caddy phone the water. I did see that. Yeah DJ said he was like, man, you were a week early. I was like, damn. He didn't knock a gym, a straight with one. Like, he just just straight with the shot out of the fairway. It was crazy. There were under water trying

“to pull off of it. There was a noise in my key tried to like, did it count as a joke or no?”

I don't know if it ended up counting. But like it looked as close to a real shot as it possibly could have been. There was some underwater bunkers. I did not see it. Yeah, that was kind of crazy. They were marked. Like, I couldn't tell if they were actual hazards or if they got in a bunch of rain or whatever. And then yeah, it's DLF week this week. So P is not in the field. Unfortunately, at some point we're going to have it's going to have to be reflected in his fedora 5

ranking. And then OXA is making the trip and David feels as well. So, and then solid just a couple other various notes I had. You guys see the Jerry Kelly back injury video? I'm going to start. I have to nominated to start doing that when I have to withdraw with back injuries. That was great. The drugs just weren't strong enough. You know, he was just

“gutted to have to leave the Colo Guard. Solid, you were quite chuffed by this one. Blocky's son.”

Pretty good. He's what entered. Was it a Monday queue or a section? I don't know. I just saw he was in the turd bit. He's goes by his is tick-talking. I'll put he cuts block. I did get a kick out of that. The potential great man, Harry Hall. With his absolute boys, he flew one of his childhood best friends over for the Peaky Blinders Premier in NYC. Just a great aesthetic from him. I love there. New York. What else we got? We got guys went down the high grove.

Crazy Gilhands, Jim Wagner joined down in kind of west of Lake Oka Chobi, South of Seabring. Crazy. Kind of like in his rookie and that like, you're like, whoa, I'm in Florida. This is like playing on the south edge of the Lake Wales Sand Ridge. And yeah, like through the orange groves and stuff, it was very, very good. So I would anticipate that when hitting, hitting the rankings list here in the next, you know, eight to 12 months. Thank you, T.C. That is going to move

us towards wrapping. We have a P.J. Tours off to Houston this week. L. P.J. Tours mentioned his head to Arizona for the Ford Championship. D.P. World Tour is off to DLF, the Hero Indian Open. Live is off until the masters get this one. Corn Fairy Tours back in the states for the club car championship at the landings golf and athletic club. That is up there for most good turners. Most words, it a tournament in professional golf. So, uh, Jens did not expect us to go two hours

tonight. But as always a treat, Chad and with you for T.C. And Randy, thank you everyone for tuning in.

We got a fun master's pod coming up for you this coming Tuesday. And then of course, have another recap pod coming up in this coming Sunday night. Thank you very much for tuning in. And we'll see you next week, cheers.