149. LIB S10 Finale Reactions + White Shirts & Makeup Mishaps

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I had a different tone this time, Pod Besties, we've seen your comments and DMs and before

“we pressed record right now, did you know we were in our fields?”

Yes. We've been feeling a little bit down today because we are so sad about just closing this chapter, obviously we're really excited for the one that's coming. I don't know, it's just really hard, but we're so glad we have a few more episodes with you guys.

I've definitely been in my fields, that's a little bittersweet, but the messages have been sending us over the edge and the fact that in Chicago, it's so rainy. I'm just like, it's too moody, I need some sunshine to come out. We need to change up the fields. I know, but we're so grateful for you guys.

You guys have been the kindest, nicest people ever. We already mentioned last week that in our last episode, that episode coming out on March 25th, we'll be sharing more about how we made this decision, like we'll be super candid with you guys, but we just want to put out there like there wasn't anything crazy that happened. This has been a dream of, I think, both of ours to just be able to talk on a mic with

each other and with our pod besties and get paid doing it. It's been amazing. Getting paid to YAP. That's crazy. Yeah.

Amazing. It's like a dream come true job. Deep DNA have individual professional dreams, and unfortunately, this one was getting in the way of those, and I think at some point we were like, we need to make a decision, like,

this has been an amazing dream to achieve, but we do have other ones that we also want

to achieve as well. Yeah. I think it's important to know when to walk away from something, even though it's been

“just so amazing to do it, I think you have to be able to make space for different things”

in your life, and for that to happen, you have to walk away from other things, and they have to end, unfortunately. But I think, all in all, it's going to be such a beautiful journey, whatever we end up doing in the future. And, obviously, this is not a goodbye forever.

Like, you guys can still find us. We'll still be posting where we barely post, don't worry. I'll make Natalie force me to post. The thing is, I won't. You'll have to force me.

And I don't know if we have the motivations to force each other. We need to. We need to. That's one thing we need to get by, yeah, literally, for the pod besties for the comms to use. I, we're recording early today, because I'm going on a cruise this weekend.

So exciting. We're recording, like, five days early, yes, it's early, but, you know, we don't mind.

“We love a little switch-up of the routine, but are you excited?”

It's almost your birthday, also. Oh my gosh, yeah. So I'll be celebrating my birthday on the cruise, along with my dad. So I'm going to the cruise with my parents and my sister. So, you know, my unit of a family, oh yeah.

It's actually kind of cute, so my dad calls our family, his inner circle. And so, our family group chat name is my inner circle with, that's really cute, actually.

So, he always says, like, when he's trying to talk about, like, what is it called when

it's your, I, a media family, your media family? Is a media family just, you're a media family? It's just the, like, your parents and your siblings are your parents. It doesn't include, like, your grandparents? No.

No. Because your grandparents and media family would be, like, your parents and their siblings. You know, like, they're only unit. Wow. So, you knew?

What my dad tells me about, like, maybe some family drama, he's, like, it only stays in our inner circle, like, you'll say it like that. Wait, that's so cute. Yeah. I just know that your dad is, like, the nicest human being on this planet.

So, you know, he literally, I feel like his gossip is, like, not even, not even. It's all just an update. It's like, oh, by the way, like, she'll probably tell you later, but I want to give you the hot sauce. But make sure to just keep it in our inner circle for now.

Don't let it out. That I told you. That's not even my dad's voice. I don't know how to ask it that. But, you know, how to differentiate his voice.

I asked on my Instagram, like, can you guys give me tips on what to do, what to bring with me? I got some really, really good ones.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I guess, like, the cruise walls are metal. Oh. So, people, like, bring small magnetic hooks so they could, like, hang there, like, sometimes

“you have to wear a lanyard on your cruise to, like, hold your keycard or whatever.”

And then, I got a traveling, a clothing dry line. No, that's not what it's called. What is it called? A two-hanging your clothes on a, on a, on a clothing line. A clothing line on a cruise ship.

Yeah. I just imagine you're using this clothing line outside on your balcony. It just flies away. No, that's why. Because they don't want to pollute the ocean.

Yeah. They're kind of serious about that. Good. So, I don't think you're allowed to hang your clothes on the balcony, unless you're at a port.

Like, the ship's not moving. Yeah. Why do I picture also, like, when you do laundry, do you separate your colors and your weights to your blacks? Okay.

I used to, like, I used to be so crazy, but it was such a waste of water. And my water bill, I was like, listen, and I was like, this, I got to bring down a few dollars. Your water bill.

No, I always think that I'm not adult enough because I just, like, mix and

match everything when I get shit in the laundry. I don't need to. Hmm. Okay. I don't own enough, like, white shirts or anything like that.

Do you? No. Because, like, I know you don't. I've seen your closet.

“Which I literally, just look at the last episodes of, actually, how many?”

We're on episode 149, yeah, and every single, probably, 148 of them, I've been wearing black. Yeah. So, pretty much, no, it's because, okay, this is why, though, because I can't be trusted around white things, white sneakers, dirty as, oh, that's on a bad.

You know what I meant? Yes, no, I didn't, I thought you were gonna, I don't know why. That sounded like inappropriate. It's not inappropriate. No, I agree.

Yeah. So, I also don't own, like, white clothing, I don't know, yeah, I don't know anything. No, white shirts, though, are my biggest nightmare, because the order of which I get ready is usually, like, hair makeup and then outfit. And so, if I put on a white shirt, I'm getting makeup all over that thing, and I don't

know how to get it out. And I'm just like, okay, well, I guess I'm, I don't know what to do with this mom, can you help me? My order is the same. My hair makeup outfit routine, it, like, those in that order.

Okay. So, like, my outfit is the last thing I put on, but I do the plastic bag method. What the hell is the plastic bag you put? You put, like, um, a shopping plastic bag over your head and put your shirt on. You don't do that?

I've never heard anybody doing that before in my life.

Or you take, like, a dirty pajama shirt and, like, put it around your head and then put your, okay. Honestly, these are really smart because my solution is just making them that cold as anything as possible. And then throwing, just hoping for the best.

And you, like, on the collar, you get a little bit of the makeup stay. Honestly, if you go into my closet right now, I bet you there's so many outfits and dresses specifically that just have a tiny, little makeup ring, little ring on the collar. I know exactly what you're talking about. Why do I always get those?

No, I literally do, is that, like, a universal woman problem because I'm, in what world are you putting your outfit on? I have like now.

“Listen, that's why I'm looking, I was like, wouldn't it?”

I always wear black because it alleviates that problem completely. No, even with my black shirts, like, you know, my makeup's lighter. So there's like a ring of, like, whatever my foundation color is. Yes. Honestly, I can't ever escape it.

Maybe, and also, can I just say, I don't know how to make my makeup non-transferable. Like, you just can't. I literally will hug a man and, you know, like, I'm short.

So, like, my face is always most immediately going straight to their chest and, like,

all hug them. I'm saying, and I get makeup on them, like, why are you wearing white? Or it's on you, though, you, like, I do this thing where I'll hug someone. I used to do that to people, like, especially at, like, a formal event. I'd be like, "Oh, my eyes are on their suit."

But now I have to, like, pull my head all the way back, or when they go in for a hug. And I was like, "Oh, my gosh, sorry. I don't want to get makeup on. You won't hug you." Oh, you know what I do?

I use my hair as a buffer. So, like, I will literally move my hair and I'll, like, hug them with my hair on the chin. So, in terms of the fact that, but even the chin, oh, my god, it's my worst nightmare, but I'm so short. So, I'll hug them and my chin, like, hits the top of their shoulder pad.

Yes. And then, I see the mark after, and I'm like, "I'm just going to pretend it wasn't me. I'm going to pretend it's the girl behind me that's about to hug her. Yeah. 100%.

It's so bad. I know. And then, they have, like, oily ass makeup on their heads. It's so bad. Like, on their suit all day.

I'm confused as to, if the pod bus is no, the way is to not make the makeup transferable. Like, let me know, please. I don't think there's a way. I think it's always. It's like, have you ever seen that clip of where Kim and Courtney Kardashian are in a fight?

Oh my God.

But her makeup gets all over it.

And that's when I realize I was like, "Listen, if the Kardashians can't make their makeup transferable, knowing that they work with professional makeup artists and you so much setting spray, there's no way we regular people can." That's so fair. Thank you for that confidence, because I really think that that is something that I've

been trying to work on for so long and no amount of setting spray or powder has not ever helped me, like, not make this an issue. No. And it is what it is. It is what it is.

Okay. Good to know that it's a relatable thing. And I don't know. It also could just be you and I. You guys already know I'm not the best cook and I don't really meal plan.

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Oh my gosh. Okay, it was actually really, really fun. Some people from improv one from our class were in improv two, and so that was really nice because I was like, familiar faces. Yeah.

So I'm not as like, oh my gosh, like I'm totally new, you could tell it's going to be more intense than improv one. Really? Improven one was more like, it's fun, like you can't do anything wrong. Yeah.

Improved two is more like you're learning actual techniques, like very much in depth.

“Especially because it's like ensemble improv, so it's like you have to not even know”

what to say or how to act. It's more over like observing your, like the people that are in your group and seeing what they do and kind of like interacting with them. So that's cool. Similar instructor said it, it was like being part of an ensemble group is like,

you, everything you do, you kind of want to like lift everyone up, like you can't just be like you. Yeah. He goes sometimes you're only there in a scene to make like the other person just be the funniest.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's like what it's like being part of an ensemble. Yeah. When you know that their strength is that, and you're like you set them up for the joke.

And yeah. But it's like so much observation and like working together. Yeah. So he's like a lot of listening. But deep do you remember?

Like, I'm not sure if I want to do improv two or like another class because you didn't like the character work. Yeah. I hated the character.

“Like where you have to act like a character?”

Yeah. No. All of improv two is character work. So thank you universe for giving me the right choice because I would literally be so uncomfortable.

Yeah. It's like, everything's character work. Yeah. Learning. How did you character?

No. Thank you. I would let me take a writing class. But like, let me take a storytelling class. I cannot do that.

My weakness is. And that is the biggest weakness of my life. Our instructor was like, OK, so like the whole focus of improv two is character work. Like that is the focus. And I was like, woo, if D.T. was in this class, I don't know if she would really enjoy

it. I think it must be like good at it, but I don't think it's something you enjoy. No. Why not? No, no, no, no.

And it's not something that like, listen, there's never been a dream of mine to be like,

D.T.T.T. is going to like pick this random character remembering or like a few classes ago. Someone was doby the entire time. I was like, I wouldn't even know how to like begin. Yes.

I remember because I was an 81 year old grandfather. Yes, you were back in my day. I was going to even do it. I can't even do it. It's the only voice I know.

I was like, back in my day. Things were way more old fashioned and everyone's like, you start that. You freak. And I locked eyes with D.T. She had the most disgusted look on her face.

She was like, oh, no, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. You probably looked away because a second later I had the proudest face. No, these people was like, oh my god, where did that come from?

Like I felt. Oh, shake.

No, it was probably more like, oh my gosh, I could never do that.

How is she so good at that? That was probably the face that you thought I was, and it's not going to go to the face. No one goes, that doesn't really sound like a grandfather that sounds like a smoker. No, it sounded like SpongeBob like out of the water. Oh, when he's so far.

He's like, what? I know, I was like, oh, I start to, I was like, work on that. No, our instructor complimented you on it. And was like, that, that right there, Nat, is progress, baby. That was like, cheers.

She's like, see you on SNL. You're the next Marcello. If you end up on SNL, I would never end up on SNL. I know. It's a tough one.

In my addition, I'd be like, so I only have one character, and it's, hi, I'm an 81 year old grandfather.

Listen, everyone has niche, you know.

Yeah, there you go. I just live in the house down the street from a 7 to 11, and I love my, what are they called? The 711 smoothies, flow sloshies. See, this is my worst nightmare, you guys.

I couldn't never. And I'd be like, thank you so much. That's all I know how to do if you take a ball goodbye. No, like, I couldn't even do probably like an accent, like a British accent. It's just, I'm not going to even attempt to do it.

Just, no thank you.

“You are really funny with the, um, with, uh, what's it the pun jokes?”

No, the pun. You're really good. Like when they're like, you know, like five apples, walk into a bar, and they're like, what did you say? I don't know.

I'm going to peel away from this place. I'm going to peel away from something, something funny. Anyways. Anyways. But no, I'm really excited to see where your improv class goes.

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we were at the hip. We wanted to get to know our other classmates, so when we went into the room, we would actually sit away from each other, so we could sit with other people and get to know them.

“There was a game that we played one day in class, and you have to guess the same word”

as the person next to you, and we're all in a circle. It's like 22 people in a circle, and DT and I happen to be next to each other. Yeah, I remember even making a comment being like, why the hell did we end up next to each other? Because we actively make sure not together, but we're like screwed, it's one of the last

classes. Yeah. So we stand next to each other. So you have to guess the word with the person next to you and DT was next to me in the circle, and guys, we guessed the same word every single time, probably five times

in a row. I don't even know how we did that, but if you do guess the same word, that round ends, and you start like a new word and a new category, and everyone was like, put them back together, remember, towards the end to they're like separate them. Yeah.

No, we got separated. The structure was like, you guys are separate, you guys are way too good at this. You guys can read each other's minds or something, and she's like, it's probably because you guys are like best best friends. Is that insane?

Yeah. I'm telling you, it was like telekinesis. Yes. Also, I felt like I was looking for you. Yes.

Yes. Oh my gosh.

“We would look at each other, and we would not be like, I think you know what I'm going”

to say. Yeah. So you get two words, and you have to say a word that kind of relate to the two words you

You're just supposed to say what is on your mind, and like hopefully you and the person next you get it correct. The two words we were given randomly on one of the rounds was, "Hungry and girl." And we looked at each other, and we're like, "Catness." But we looked at each other, and we're like, "I know exactly."

Yeah. We literally just like locked eyes, and we're like, you better fucking get this right. And people are like, "Hungry girl, how did you get Catness out of that?" It was so random. Yeah.

It was so random.

“Honestly, they should have separated us because we had an unfair advantage.”

But this is so telling of like every social situation that we go to too, too, is like, "I feel like I know you so well at this point that I can literally look at you from across the room, and know if you're like comfortable in that conversation or not." Or just like, "No, what you're thinking?"

I'm like, "And most always it's like, in one minute, just wait, she's going to go to the

bathroom." This is like, "I'll go meet her there." I just know it's so crazy because this is so true, actually. We went to event like a couple of months ago, and it was like a formal event. And I was talking to someone I didn't know for like probably an hour at that at

this point, and deeply actually came over and kind of like saved me. Like she could tell I need to use the bathroom. She could tell like I was tapping my foot and she's like, "Oh my gosh, Natalie needs to use the bathroom." But like, it doesn't know how to like, excuse yourself out of the conversation.

And she came and saved me, and the later she was like, "You had to use the bathroom. Like I knew." It was like, "That was crazy." And I was like, "I can't believe you knew I'd use the bathroom." It doesn't hit me until I actually think about it, but we do spend so much time together

and talk so much that I know you more than I know any of my other friends, I think." Yeah. And you're like my comfort person also when we like go out and do things too. I'm like, "Oh, I just know I can rely on you." Yeah.

“Oh, and also you like don't judge anything that I think or say.”

So it's easy with you, but no, it's the whole improv class, though. That game specifically, I was like, "Holy shit!" I really put our friendship to the, "Yeah. Have you seen the TV show Plurbus?" I have actually.

Really? Okay.

I just started it recently, and it's like the high mentality you've never, and what have I just

think of? What? Because how did we get catnosed? We got one too, and it was fruit. It was just fruit.

I don't know what the two words were. Yeah. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were.

I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were.

I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were. I don't know what they were.

I could have been like plants, see herbs.

I literally don't know how, and why our minds are so similar, but I love it. I love it. Knowing I do too. I would take improv one over a thousand times, because it's so fun, and so like light hearted.

Improv two. Oh my god. Characters, nothing cute. No, thank you. Wow.

Oh my god. Speaking about characters, can we get into the finale episode of Love Is Wine Season 10, because there's a lot of crazy characters at the end of this season. Overall, absolutely crazy characters, because, okay, we knew that Mike was going to say no to Emma.

Yeah. But why did he have to start the no with, I do love you.

“That's like, well, that's off putting like, why would you get her so excited?”

Well, it was like Emma, where he's like, oh, she's about to say, I can't. And then she goes, I can't see my life without you. I was like, what are they doing? Why are they talking in riddles? They're like, what's going on with that?

Yeah. I don't know. That was wild. Yeah. Think goodness, he said no, like, do you think that they dated after the show?

Actually, don't know. I feel like Mike was almost the wrong person for her because of how strongly he wanted a family, you know? Yeah. And so I was like, Emma, while you're in this uncertainty phase, like, the

he, you don't want to be with someone like that, he was just like, I need kids. Yeah. And also, like, I'm not sure exactly what it would take for Emma to be certain one way or the other. You know, like, is it the right person, or, I don't know, or how she gets there,

you know? Or it could just be time time. Yeah. And it's just hard because there's like so much unknown that like, I feel like Mike just couldn't wait.

And so he absolutely made the right decision. Yeah. He made the right decision for both of them. I was actually kind of shocked that Emma tells Mike, like, I really did want to marry you.

I saw this like glimpse of a future. Mm-hmm. Can I tell you something about this couple? Mm-hmm. I like them individually.

Yeah. Or, yeah. Like, they're not really that problematic compared to the rest of the people on the season. They're kind of just like, you know, they're just cool people. Mm-hmm.

Why do they interact as if they are strangers? Like, I feel like on their wedding day, you know, when they're talking on the couch,

Like, I feel like I'm seeing like two people who don't know each other interact.

And I wonder, actually, that's so funny because I did notice that too. And I wonder if like something kind of clicks and changes once you say no at the altar. And if you talk afterwards, it's like this connection that you did have. It's almost like severed in a weird way, almost like you're not connected through this experience anymore.

I don't know. They just don't have any chemistry. Yeah. I like them individually. Again, not problematic compared to the rest of the people this season.

And they both seem great individually, but together, literally, I just don't see the spark. I agree. I want to be surprised if at the reunion, they're both like dating other people. Yeah. I do wonder if they tried dating afterwards.

I feel like they probably did.

It's hard to just like, and things cold turkey, especially after an experience like this, unless like something traumatic happened between you two. So I feel like they probably did try or like, you know, gave it a go and gave the little dating thing a go, but I would not be surprised if they didn't make it, though. That's like Devonti and Brittany.

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It's what hasn't happened, and it's advantage being honest, bringing about how he actually feels. Okay, but like, I feel like Brittany, she's like in a little bit of a dilulu land. Like, and I get it, when you're going through the experience, like, and you're experiencing it in real time, right?

It's hard to decide for your feelings and hard to see the truth of the situation. Like, obviously us as viewers watching this scene, their breakup scene is like, how can she not see that he doesn't want to be with her? But I guess in the moment, maybe she missed it. No, I think that's very, very clear.

Right? Yeah. It's hard not to see in that scene that he is not interested in her, but maybe she's going to make a fuse because like, maybe they're like intimate behind the scenes. You know, they're more like physically connected.

And so, you know, like, we're not seeing that piece, and how that kind of, I don't want to say like falls into her delusion. But, you know, like why she feels so strong. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. But, yeah, it just based on his like body language and the way he said, will be in touch. Oh, my God. Oh, that was so funny. The thing is, that's my sense of humor for someone to say it, that comment alone

I was like, whatever. But it's everything else like what he said in his confessional interview when he's like, she's like, my shadow sometimes I just want to like, have her stay at the door. Yeah. He's like, and that's not fair to her.

“And I was like, a shadow, that's like, who describes their fiance like that?”

Because I feel pressured. I don't think she's my person. Meanwhile, she's like, I'm going to marry Devante. Yeah. Oh, girl.

Just, I think it says a lot about his communication or lack thereof when he said two years ago, I probably would have gotten married and then tried to find a divorce right away where he kind of avoids having the conversation until like hits a breaking point. Yeah. I was like, yeah, you're a very weak communicator.

Yeah. And maybe you know what? This experience maybe has taught him to be a better communicator because honestly, I'm kind of proud of him for like laying it out and being like, hey, let's not go to the wedding.

I'm not there. Like, I think we just like see where it goes. I'm proud of him for breaking it off before he went to the altar. I don't think he embarrassed her. I don't think he broke it off.

“Well, I mean, I think in his brain he did.”

He wanted to break it off, but he was pressured into being like, yeah, let's continue

It was.

And she goes, we could set a wedding date later or something like that.

I was like, oh, God. She was like, oh, no, we're just not getting it, she's just not getting it. Which again, listen, maybe I would be in the same boat of not getting it. Like you said, if like we're still being intimate and there's like, you know, we're holding hands and like doing all the thing, even the kiss felt so awkward when they kissed at the

ending goes, okay, well, we'll be in touch. I mean, obviously, I think this is all on Devante for not being honest, like, I was like, listen, we know you don't want to be with her. You should have literally cut it off in that moment, so to be like, let's see, where goes.

Yeah. But I feel like Brittany should have picked up on this. I know, this is a classic. Why are you trying to make it work with him? Yeah.

And this is the classic case of him not wanting to be the bad guy or the villain of the season. Yeah. Because I think he's like tiptoeing around the fact that it's not going to happen and he's very much like, let me just, you know, like take my time and leave some breadcrumbs.

“That's why I think he didn't go to the altar because he knew he'd be the ones they”

know and she'd be the ones saying, yes, and he's like, I don't want to look extra bad. So I got to cut it off before it happens. Got to cut it off. He took notes from Joe from season nine. Oh, yeah.

He's like, got to cut it off before it gets too far and the fact that he's like, I got enough screen time. I was like, just enough. He's like, I think I got too much. Yeah.

He's like, I just got a little too much, but just enough to get some followers on Instagram. But it's my time to go. I think right, and the fact that he brought up the wedding dress situation was like, he said, I feel weird that she bought the wedding dress before the show because didn't even matter who it was.

Was it just like going to be in certain groom here in type situation? And I'm like, I can kind of see how that's off putting, but I don't know. I mean, it first sure is off putting. But I think he's just trying to justify that he doesn't like her. It's like, I don't think these are the reasons I think from the very beginning, you

didn't want to be with Brittany.

“I mean, you should have just been honest, you being divante, obviously.”

Yeah. Even in Mexico, you could tell he pulled back his energy.

Watching Brittany and divante is always a reminder to me that even though someone might

be saying the right things and saying that they want to be with you, if you feel like the energy is off, like, it's making you anxious and making you question what that person is saying. Like, most likely he doesn't want to be with you. Yeah.

Absolutely. The signs are there. Yeah. I think I was very much a victim to that, where your body can feel the shift, yeah. And you know that their words aren't aligning with their actions or like how they actually

feel. I feel like now I can identify that feeling and be like, what is this? What is this? And then kind of be like, okay. I know what this is.

But previously, I feel like even when I did love his wine in our season, like, what five years ago, I couldn't identify the feeling until later, which is so crazy. I feel like every time I feel the shift, like, in my previous relationships, a breakup was coming. Yeah.

Like something was about to happen. Yeah. Isn't it crazy how your body knows before, yeah, it should happen? And then you try to justify yourself out of it. That's why I feel like Britney's doing right now.

Like, she's trying to like justify him pulling back. And the thing is, I don't blame her because he's also saying the right things and, you know, finding excuses for his behavior.

But yeah, it's just always like, I feel like after experiencing it myself, I'm like, okay,

I always know like, if you feel it, regardless of what that person is saying to you, like, whatever you're feeling is spot on. Yeah. And especially when you go through a breakup too, and in this situation, I don't know what the hell that was.

I don't know if it was a breakup or if it was just a, let's just wait and see. Yeah, let's keep data. Yeah. Which, what an interesting way for him to frame that, but you like can feel that he's pulling back.

So you do anything to like continue to chase it and be like, don't pull back. We're going to set a wedding date, right?

“Like, I think that's why she was saying those things because she could feel like something”

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Like something about, you weren't supposed to bring the shit up or something like that. And I was like, oh, damn. Yeah. Lots of familiar faces also, I know, from across all the seasons too, but no. Amber Storming off at that reunion was very surprising to me.

I was like, wonder what happened because Amber and Jordan said, yes, I know. Jordan was acting so weird. Like, you know, how it opens up with him sitting with his family, and he's just like, I'm really nervous. Like, I don't know.

It's just, that doesn't seem like someone who's confident in their idea at the altar. Yeah. And I couldn't, like, place why he was so anxious, like, obviously we've been through it. Like, the weddings are very, very anxious, written. There's a lot of emotion, your family is there.

But it felt like his anxiousness came from a lot of uncertainty. So when he said, yes, at the altar, like, you could tell everybody in the audience. And I feel like he himself was very surprising because I'm going to follow my heart and just say, yes, like, he made a game time decision. Yeah.

And, you know, those don't always end up great.

No. I feel like the ones that we've heard of have, yeah, all of them have ended up in divorce. Yeah. But I feel like it was less like he was uncertain. He knew he wanted to say, I don't.

This is just my theory. I'm just like speculating. I assume he wanted to say, I don't at the altar and was so scared to do so because he was like, I'm going to look really, really bad. And then he was like, thinking like, do I just say, yes, just to get a better edit?

Also her daughter is here.

“Like, I feel like that's what he was struggling with if I were to guess.”

It was less being uncertain. It was the fact that he wanted to say, I don't at the altar, but he was so scared to. Yeah. Like, weighing his decisions, like, should I just say I do at the altar and get a better at it?

Oh, the show. Interesting. Yeah. For me, I just felt like he was just nervous in general because his life is about to change so much.

If he does say, yes, at the altar, not only is he going to be a stepdad, he also is going to have a baby daddy in his life that he needs to coordinate life with and the fact that they had to move also and the fact that he was like kind of reiterating the fact that it, oh, like, I want to be around concerts and bars like this and this. And I think like that was like, I think he was like anxious about too.

So I was very much taken aback. I thought he was going to say no, no, same. Is it bad to say, I feel like he should have said no? I, he says it during the conversation with his family, he goes, I'm not going to move to Mount Vernon.

Like because he wants to be by his friends and like concerts and bars, but I just don't think that's fair to Emma because why should she be an hour away from her dad, her, her real dad and like that's not fair just because like Jordan wants to be by those things. I think it's fine that he does, but like it's not good for Emma. So I don't think that him and Amber should be together exactly because his decision

making not only impacts him now, but it trickles down into Emma too. Yeah, like it's kind of selfish. I think in that case, like the priority is Emma, Amber's daughter. So yeah.

“That's why I was like, I was hoping you would say I don't because I was like clearly”

you don't want your life to change, but it's unfair to get married to Amber and be like, I'm not living in Mount Vernon where when that makes sense for Emma. Exactly. Cause Emma has a life there and honestly can I tell you I lost it when they said yes and Emma started crying and she was like, my bigger tears, I was like I'm going to lose it.

I'm going to lose it. It was so cute.

This has to be the first time that they've shown a contestance kid.

Yes, on the show. I was very surprised to see the show her. Yeah. That actually made me so nervous. I was like, I feel like Jordan has to say yes now because imagine like Emma, I don't know

seeing Jordan say I don't to her mom at the altar exactly that would be not traumatizing. I think that's like a little aggressive, but I think she is old enough to understand what's happening. So it could have impacted her negatively. I don't know.

I don't know. But no, he felt the pressure of saying yes because of that reason too and didn't want

Even Amber's brother says something like, I don't think you guys are going to get married.

I don't see that being the outcome or something like that. It's just horrible to say to someone who's about to walk down the aisle, but I just feel like everyone, like both of their families just knew it probably wasn't going to happen. And they probably feel like that based on information they're getting from Amber and Jordan, right?

Like I feel like Jordan must have told things to his family behind the scenes, same with Amber for them to be so like, we're not sure how this is going to go. Yeah. Like Amber's brother said something along lines of like, I don't want the outcome of this to be like you guys getting married or something along those lines.

And I was like, oh, at least he's honest because you're right, the stakes are high. And there's there's a lot of other factors involved in this in this whole scenario. Did you catch Jordan sister's face when he said I do at the altar? No, I didn't. She looked not happy.

Oh, really? Yeah.

Was it like a surprised look?

Oh, no. She's not happy. Like shock, which makes me think he told his family that he was saying I don't. Yeah. And they were just shocked that he said I do.

Damn. I wonder if it really truly is the pressure of like seeing everybody while you're standing at the altar, seeing Emma and like him just not wanting to disappoint Amber and like just wanted to make her happy in the moment.

“I feel like that's why he said I honestly think it's because he didn't want to look like”

the bad guy. Yeah. It's really, really scared of their edit when it gets to the end of filming. Yeah. You kind of have an idea of like what your edit may look like if you're, you know,

smart enough?

Yeah, based on what the producers ask you in interviews, you can definitely tell.

Yeah. So I feel like with Jordan, he was probably like, oh my gosh. I feel like I have to say yes, man. Like I think he knew if he says I don't and Emma is there, Amber's daughter. He's not going to look great.

Oh, it would be a shock. So I think he just did it, dude, I am so excited for the tea at reunion because I need to know why did Amber storm off like what's going on? I know. I do really like them both though.

I think like Jordan just seems like a really, really nice guy and Amber. I mean, even though the small scenes with her daughter on her wedding day, there was just like so, so cute. And she's like, let me put some chapstick on you. And I know it's like, I don't know, it like, it's like, it just like seeing her as a mom

kind of makes me look at her differently as a character in a good way.

“But I also remember how Amber had just his back when it came to that whole Chris situation”

at the Potsquad Mixer. So I really like them individually. I'm not sure how they're going to fare as a couple. Yeah, just have to see. Yeah, I mean, listen, throughout the entire season, I like them together.

I thought there were super fun and quirky together and they were one of my favorite couples. It's one thing to be like that when the cameras are round, but when the cameras go away, that's when the real test begins of life and can you actually adjust to each other. And so, I don't know, for me, even if Jordan thinks he made a mistake by saying yes, potentially and maybe like something happens at the reunion, we don't know.

I still think like, you still learn a lot along the way, yeah, process of it all. But anyway, as I'm intrigued, we'll see what happens. No, 100% Ashley and Alex, that girl hates him. Don't you think, no, Ashley, I had her bad ass moment. The way she called out his dishonesty was insane.

I know, for some reason I wasn't expecting that because I feel like in the last episode when they're showing their 101 dates, she was like pretty calm and seemed like she really liked him. Like I remember thinking like Ashley stand up and she stood up, she stood up on her wedding day.

The girl was holding it all in until the altar because she had some feelings for him. Holy crap. I mean, obviously, she prepped that speech and memorized it. So I was like, she probably spent a few days thinking about what she wanted to say and memorizing it.

So I was like, she's been feeling like this, well, since Mexico, of course, but she had some hate for that man. I don't blame her. I don't blame her either. Yeah.

Like, okay, there was a tiny little moment in my brain where I was like, oh, I kind of feel bad for Alex, what he was like, left at the altar, but it quickly, quickly

“dissipated because honestly, Alex has an issue with being honest.”

We've seen it. How can you marry somebody without foundation? You just can't. I don't feel bad for Alex at all. I just feel like even in Mexico, think about that conversation he had with Brittany, like

it was so inappropriate, yeah. Even him getting mad at Ashley for rearranging his water bottles in the fridge. It's just, he's shown he doesn't have great qualities and on top of that, he's a liar. Yeah. So someone had to put him in his place because his mom was going to do it.

I was very surprised that Ashley was so candid after the ceremony and she's like talking

Like he clearly never liked me and he would say like multiple times how I wasn't his

type. And honestly, that would not sit well with me also, even if I'm not somebody's type, you don't read it really constantly, like, okay, I get it, like leave me alone. There must have been things that have happened from their last one on one day till now. Like I wonder what their last scene was.

Is it when they were on their bachelor at parties or when they're at the, you know, bridal shop and the tucks fitting, like, yeah, I wonder something must have happened. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Because usually there's like one last date night before you like separate before the weddings.

And so like, but there's like a few days and few days in between, so yeah, so I wonder, I don't know, maybe something didn't happen or she's, it's just gets like the decision

“gets heavier and you have to like make it.”

But I don't know, I was really proud of her because I was like, hell, yeah, girl, speak your truth. Yeah. Alex is so interesting in the way that he speaks, like obviously everything is like sports oriented, but if you removed his like little interviews out of love is blind and just played

it like stand alone, you would have no idea where or what this man is talking about. Let alone his wedding day. Today I feel like I'm a goalkeeper. No, I know.

There's always a soccer reference and I was like, we get it.

They played soccer. Like, sir. I was like, you mentioned it a hundred times like you don't, you don't have to remind us. I know. And we're like, we got to move on.

We got to use new analogies, sir. Yeah. I mean, again, not shocked that they didn't get married. I think it was more shocked at actually really standing up for herself at the altar. Her dad looked so, so proud.

I think it was like so amazing that he like questioned Alex and like was able to kind of reveal how much bullshit Alex spews. Yeah. But at the same time, I just, I don't know, something about her dad just, it's, he seems also very like controlling like, I'm the patriarch of the family, like time to think.

Yeah. I just, yeah.

“I think it's because it's so different from my dad.”

Yeah. It definitely seems like one of those like overprotective dads who like, you know, it's his little girl type situation who knows, who knows, but all in all, like thank God. I know. I know.

I didn't. One thing I wanted to mention about Ashley though, this was really, really surprising to me. But story time with Ricky said that Ashley was seeing her situation ship during filming, like while she was engaged to Alex, wait.

That's crazy. Yeah. Way. And she has like receipts of it, too. Interesting.

Like showing that the timelines were similar to like filming and when she was talking to her situation ship or seeing her situation ship. One thing about story time with Ricky is, I love the news that she brings and usually it has validity to it because she doesn't usually just like post speculating. Yeah.

So that's very interesting. Yeah. That was the idea. I feel like she only talks about things when she gets it from a valid source or she has like receipts.

Like real receipts on it. Right. Yeah. So our time with Ricky was like, yeah, I've real receipts that this potentially did happen. Wow.

This just makes me think like there's so much that happens behind the scenes that we just are not previewed to. There's so much context missing to all of these storylines. I know. And if that is the case, like obviously that means that Ashley knew from the very beginning

that Alex was not it for her and maybe she was looking for some validation with her situation ship or her hook up because Alex wasn't giving it to her. I don't think it takes away from what she said at the altar because it's so her full for like someone that you got engaged to or liked in the pots to be like, you're not my physical type.

Right. I don't think that this takes away from her standing up for herself, no.

“But do I think that she always knew she was going to say no and this is kind of evidence”

of that if it's true that she was like connected with a situation ship during filming. Yeah.

Like it means like she always knew she was going to say no.

Interesting. Okay. Now I'm even more excited for the reunion because I'm going to bring it up. Probably not that. I just need to know where they're like, where are you dating?

What's the tea? What's Ashley going to reveal? Yeah. Like I really hope Ashley reveals some shit about Alex because you listen. I just kind of love it when sometimes people get what they deserve.

I mean, he just needs to be knocked down a few pairs and twisted it. Yeah. Just to do it. He's acting a little too like full of himself, 100%. We got to get to the star couple of the season, even though they didn't really get

screen time, girl. Vic and Christine. You know what? They deserved this finale episode. I think about like one third of this episode was focused on their wedding and I was like,

"As it should be? As it should be." Yeah. But okay. Can I be mean for a second?

Yeah. I watched it, but I did for it. Oh, you shouldn't have.

It was really cute. Okay.

I didn't forward the whole thing, but I did watch a lot of it on 1.5 speed because you know

how it gets. With the weddings, it's like, it's like, redundant. I already watched the show on 1.5 speed. Yeah. He watched the entire episode on 1.5.

And if I want to fast forward, I take it to two. But for Vic and Christine's, I changed it to 1.5. Okay. That's what I mean. That's what I mean.

You got to get the captions going in, then you go. And you go. Most of the weddings episodes, like all the seasons, I kind of fast forward or like, I play it back really quickly.

But Vic and Christine so cute, they are actually made for each other, which is insane because

is love really blind. Maybe not in their case.

“I think they do love each other, but they're too good looking individuals.”

Listen, if the doors opened and it was Vic, I'd be like, yes, love is blind. Yes. Love is absolutely blind. Like, are you kidding? You know?

And seeing them. Exactly. Yeah. I'd be like, yes, love is blind. I just love when I'd be like, it worked for me.

Yeah. No, I literally would be like a screaming in from the rooftop. I would get a tattoo. Love is blind. A period.

Yes, love is blind. When two people are ridiculously good looking and mature and kind and just good people. Seriously. Like, they have a lottery.

“And I absolutely love when two attractive people date and get married.”

It makes me so happy. I'm like, oh, man, this experiment is, it's crazy. The reason why I watched their entire wedding at my normal 1.5x speed is because I feel like we had such little scenes of them on the season.

We never really saw their like connection, you know?

So I was like, I just want to watch it in full. But my gosh, you could tell both of them are really, really good people because their friends and family are so wonderful. Yes. You can always tell by the broader community that they had around the same way.

Oh my gosh. And it's like, everyone that we saw during their wedding day was absolutely wonderful. So pretty. Each family member, each friend, like, just wonderful people. Yeah.

No, I felt the same way. It was such good energy throughout their entire wedding. And I always say there's like one couple that the season had to happen for and in this case, it was Vic and Christine, what about Denver season 9?

“I'm honestly erased that season out of my brain because like, did anyone even get married?”

Did anyone get married? What about the seasons where everyone divorce season two, everyone divorce season three, everyone divorced season five, everyone divorced. Sometimes, listen, I've said this as a crazy girl. Yeah.

The fact that divorces are happening, like, okay, I don't want to put this in the universe, but I feel like there are most likely statistically there's going to be more divorces coming down the line. And it's crazy that everyone in season two, three and five divorced. Listen, like, sometimes people get lucky in love and they find it on love is blind, but

for most the majority of the cast members that have been on love is blind across all the 10 seasons. It hasn't been the game. You know, so. Well, all in all, the season had to happen for our favorite couple of Vic and Christine. I love them. I honestly do, I'm excited to see the reunion. I hope that they at least get like more time to talk about like how married life has been for them. If they're still together, I'm hoping they

are. Yeah, fingers crossed. Yeah, but I'm so excited to watch tonight. We do get me so good. I know. I cannot wait. We'll see. We'll see how everything plays out. I saw that there was like a little fight between the girls. I know. So excited to watch that because we love drama. We love. I heard like, most of the women on the cast aren't fans of breeze. So yeah, so interesting. And I can't wait to figure out why. Yeah. Well,

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