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Welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, June 26th. And boys, well we're watching the end of the US game right now. We will update it.

It's two to you right now with seven minutes of stopper time. It's a brace brace brace brace. So while we wait to see how this ends. And we're reminder if we end up tying this game. Listen, it was a game we didn't care about.

This is the preseason game. We're trying to do vanilla offense. Don't let Bosnia see anything on tape. Keep it close to the vest. Yeah, meaningless win.

Right, so don't worry about that if we end up winning, we're the best diver. And we can't see anything. And even with our backups, we're the best diver.

Yes, I will say that our second stringer.

There's a pretty big fall off between the talent level of our starters. And I'd say most of our most for a backup, especially on the defensive end. It was not, it didn't look inspiring.

Yeah, we are not a deep team. All right, so let's do some national sports podcast rapid fire before we conclude this game. Before we actually do that, by the way, you can buy if you are Barnes and Noble rewards member.

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the Amazon Prime Day up to 24% off. All right, Lameleball gets traded too. The Timberwolves, I actually want to start with Zack here, because Zack, I think, might be the biggest Lameleball fan in this room.

I really enjoyed watching Lameleball play basketball, yeah. He feels like Zack could fit in with the teens walking around with Lameleball jersey. Yeah, there's a bunch of really sad, sad youngsters and Charlotte today.

Actually, I actually feel bad for Hornet's fans, because that was the most exciting Hornet season in a very long time. And you could obviously make the argument where Lameleball has his faults, and he also gets injured. But it's like, okay, now we're just going to kick the can down the road

Yep, and I like it for the Timberwolves in a weird way,

because the big story for the Timberwolves coming out of these last playoffs is Anthony Edwards being endlessly frustrated with being double teamed by better defensive teams. The minute he comes across half court, now they have someone who can take the pressure off him that can handle the ball,

“give Anthony Edwards more space, will Lameleball be healthy?”

I don't know, but I'm kind of, you know, on this for the Timberwolves. Oh, I think it instantly makes the Timberwolves like the most interesting team. Yeah, I have no idea what the fuck is going to happen with this combination. Yeah, I also think that this is a team that would benefit tremendously

from having a guy like Nas read on it. Yeah, right? Like it's kind of ironic. They traded away the one guy that I think would provide the perfect amount of stability on this team. And somebody that I think Lameleball would play really well with.

But now he's in trouble. I think the Hornets, you could make the argument that this might be good for a nibble. Yeah, they're building around Con. Yeah, and I think the recign Kobe White.

Yeah, Hornets it. And yeah, they get some pick swaps. Maybe they're thinking, hey, there's a chance Anthony Edwards gets frustrated in Minnesota and asks out and these pick swaps could be very, very valuable. They got a lot of pick swaps and a lot of them start in like 20, 30, 20, 32.

Yep, they're way in the future. Uh, they can, I got a question. For you know, you know, A-Rod pretty well. Yeah. Does this seem like a move that A-Rod would, uh,

would help to instigate as an owner of the Timberwolves? What do you mean? I feel like this is a splash move, like A-Rod. Yeah, they're going in the luxury tax. Yeah, and he's like, there are spending.

And he's like this is going to be good for, uh, for overall impressions. And building the branding of the Timberwolves.

“I think it's, uh, I see what you're saying.”

Business with a little of that. I really think it's like they, they had to find a way to, to unlock Anthony Edwards. And, and they had to find a way to get pressure off him with the, with the ball handler. And if they went back into the playoffs when their current construction, I mean, they, you know, they already dumped Julia's Randall.

Like, they're like, we got to just make sure that Anthony Edwards can, can have the space to do what he needs to do. And that's the shot they're taking. And they're going to be fun. But yeah, I do feel bad for Hornets fans.

Definitely going to be fun. All right, rapid fire, uh, Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift wedding. Is it happening in MSG? It seems like it is. It sounds like it is.

Apparently a wedding company has filed for a lot of permits. It closed down all the streets around Madison Square Garden for a couple days. Okay. And the wedding is allegedly going to happen. And, uh, I, I think it is.

I think, I think it's going to happen. I know that you were skeptical. Well, I, I, I think it's happens. So I am still skeptical. And I talked to our number one Swiftie at the, as partial sports Kelly key.

She said that the wedding itself is not going to happen at MSG. The party is happening at MSG with a bunch of live views. I don't want, I don't want them to skate on a technicality. No, they're hoping because if you have your wedding at MSG, that's tack. Very, very tacky.

“I think they're having a wedding at a train station.”

Yeah, I think, um, they're having a wedding at where a guy just died. They're going to have a, they're going to have a wedding. Yeah. But beforehand, they're going to do a ceremony. But they're also going to do a ceremony at MSG.

Yeah. They're having a wedding where Nazi rally was, which took place. That's very true. Look it up. The American boomed. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the 30 minutes. Charles Lindbergh spoke there. Yeah, pretty crazy. Uh, yeah, they're having a wedding.

And I still think if, if you're going to go tacky, go tacky all the way. So tickets to it. Tickets would probably go for thousands and tens of thousands of dollars. Uh-huh. Uh, and then put it on paper view and let people stream it.

I think Swifties would pay probably $500 to stream this. It would, it would make the, the royal wedding look like a tea party. Uh, Austin Reeves, $185 million max contract with the Lakers. He also was playing, uh, we just lost the game. We're no care.

That's fine. It is a, an exhibition doesn't matter. I'm glad. You know what? It's good that we lost this game.

You can't get complacent. Can't do it. That's sucked. This is, this is fine. That's still sucked.

It doesn't matter. But it's still sucked. Bad way to lose doesn't matter. I'm not phased by it.

Here's what, here's what I'm really worried about.

Is I know that the Hanklockwoods of the world I'm devastated. Look at me. I think they built this. Look at him.

You've been building the same outfit. Off sides. Off, please. No, is it off sides? No.

They got it scored. Oh, fuck. The Hanklockwoods of the world have been carefully constructing their little straw man. I got to say something first.

I'm an interrupting. I don't care. Go ahead and say something. This is like, is this whole week? You guys have gaslit me to the point where I have also thought,

like, I was talking trash about this US ark team. I listened back.

I never said anything bad about the US soccer team.

I disagree. Ever at any point. No, no, no, no, no. And it's turned into you being like, Hank hates America. But through Hank hates soccer.

And it's like, I think, no, I'm not going to let you get away lying every time I've talked about US soccer for the last. Soccer. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you get away every time you talk about soccer.

The US national team for the past two years. You've been like, oh, roll your eyes off. Well, we saw a bo-bo-bo. You have been extremely negative about US soccer. And for you to now sit here and say with a straight face

that you've never said anything bad about US soccer.

This week, not this week is respectful. Oh, not just in this room. People say everybody that owns a cell phone that's capable of listening to the sign of your voice right now.

“PFT, I think what you're confused about here is he's now making”

it a technicality of this week. Don't care. All that all that shit, the past. You said so much. Forget it.

So much stuff. No. And they even carefully constructing a straw man. And he can't wait to be like, I thought you said, "Rue the best team in the world."

You've been deliberately filing away positive things that we've said

so that you can be like, oh, we lost. But wait, I thought that we were number one. I know what you're doing. And I want to get ahead of it. And I'm not going to let you do it.

I don't, I'd like, I would love to troll this game. Like, the fact that they played this game is so stupid. I actually agree with that.

“Like, I'm completely irrelevant in the game.”

The fact that we waited to record until after this game ridiculous. But there's nothing to troll about. It's a literally a preseason game. So who care? Listen, I made that point the other day.

I thought that like FIFA changing the, the, the tie breaking rules the way they did is so stupid. Because you had a game. Turkey was eliminated. We are already in the next round.

It's done. It's, it's, it's, it's not like you're playing this next round before the game started. It's not done that they, we played it. It's done that they changed those rules.

Yeah, but on the other hand, head to head should matter. Yeah, but it's like when you, when you do head to head with only three games, it's like you're going to have a bunch of games that don't matter. Yeah, but with a tie, I know you're saying about the game's not mattering,

“but when there's ties, I think the best way,”

I mean, we talked about this for, for weeks in college football season. There, you play the games for, at some point what happens on the field has to the differences, though, they play 12 games season. Right. I still think that I think it's the right thing to do in terms of head to head mattering more. I think it does have the, but it's just going to end up unintentional result.

Yeah, that result of having some games not mean a lot. So many of these round of 30, or group stage finale, don't mean shit. It's just, we have a certain amount of World Cup games that were robbed of, you know, probably like six or seven P.C. on this. Okay, so I just want to say that for the, for the, for the US team,

like, we're on to Bosnia. Yeah. Bosnia is, that's all that matters. We, it's personal. They knocked Italy out. Yeah. So this is our, not just Bosnia. And heard Scovini, thank you, Hank. They are the team that knocked the Italians out. This is personal. We got your back Italy. Yeah. The use is coming into cleaning it up.

So, Hank, are you team USA now, are you Bosnia? Well, no, I don't write this second, but like next week, we'll be watching the game. No. Oh. It's on my phone. Max planned a wedding on a fucking island on the same day that US is playing. Like, to be fair, the wedding is on Friday. The game is Wednesday night.

But we're going to be on an island. And so maybe, maybe, I might, I might TV's there. Okay. There's no, I just want that we had that at night. I just want that. Crystal clear. I might be watching the game. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I grant that we can. I didn't speak like, do you, are you going to watch? No.

We never Hank said this is the thing. We never had anything. No, I have been so honest up front.

And like, since the day the show was started, I do not care about soccer. I don't know why people get so mad when I say that. Like, I'm not going to be fake and be like, oh my god, USA soccer. Like, it's not personal. Okay. I don't like soccer. You don't know why it bothers people. I genuinely do not understand why me, not liking soccer, makes people so upset. Because every, because you try to take away other people's joy of soccer. That's the problem.

Yes. I know. That was, that was, yes. And it's no, because I'm going back to this whole thing. It's like, I just get mad. I just like, it's like, I told you, I just like, it's per fort. Like, people were like acting like they're these big soccer fans. And then it's like, you just don't like people at all. There's like three, there's three guys that Hank is upset with. It was like a minor thing that I said that has turned into something like, I told me,

turning into like a communist, which is like it's annoying. I don't like go, go. Go USA. I'll be rooting for USA. I'll not be rooting against Bosnia for Bosnia. Wait, what? I will not be rooting for Bosnia. What about her? Yeah. Hey, I think there's a certain amount of people who listen to the show right now,

15% maybe of the listeners that are just like, I wish they quit talking about soccer. It's gay.

“Sure. And that's fine. I don't think that. But I love rooting for the US, the world cup. And that's”

not going to change. But when I just want to say, though, that when Hank starts to wind up, when he gets into his full stretch wind up from mound. And he starts to say, you guys have gas lit me. That's when you know that you're about to be on the receiving end of some major league gas lighting from Hank. Where would gas light off? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I like where you stand Hank. I don't agree with it, but I appreciate your point of view.

We need that. Speaking of gay soccer, let's also show some respect for the Iran Egypt Pride match. What's happening? Oh, they're doing a Pride match? Yeah, they have the the FIFA Pride match is Iran versus Egypt. That's perfect. And I'm yeah, the players are definitely not allowed to. No, take part in that. We were talking about it watching this game today. The one downside of the of the world cup being in the US is they just show way too many celebrities and not enough hot chicks.

“Yeah. And that's what we were saying earlier on the stream, the the world cup at its finest”

is like fat English dudes with belly tats. Old men crying and and and and natties and fatty natties. Big natural. Yeah. And like that's and when we robbed of it because now it's like, hey, look, there's Brad Pitt. Oh, I do. There's an Asian culture. There's nobody that I want to see less than Asian culture when I'm watching a song. I don't care about the celebrities. Yeah. Give me the next the natural big Instagram model that no one knows about from a country far far away. And like a

superfan from a country that I've never heard of. And yeah, this tournament. Yeah.

Yeah, superfan's the dude from from Congo. Have you seen him? Yeah. They got that stand still like a statue of Lomuma. Yeah. Yeah. That dude rocks. That dude's awesome. He's also a perfect example of like we're not so dissimilar because so for you haven't seen it, there's a fan from Congo

“that stands perfectly still for the entire game in the stands. He's no different than like when we”

change our seats on the couch in the gambling cave. Mm-hmm. We're like, oh, fuck. I got to go stand outside and like watch through my fingers. They were just all doing it on vibes. He said he's just trying to give him strength. He's giving him strength. He's posing as a statue of Lomuma. And I looked up who Lomuma was and I read about like this dude's life. Dude was a gangster. Yeah. And then when they they it took like 12 people to kill him when they killed him. They dissolved his body in a

vat of acid. The Belgians did. All they ever got back from this guy was a tooth. And this guy's like if I can if I can channel his energy during a game then maybe other people learn who Lomuma was. Yeah. We also had the the Ghana witch doctor has lifted his curse on Harry Kane. So England you heard Harry Kane should be good. I would like to discuss some things, some business wise with the Ghana witch doctor. Okay. Regarding Bosnia and or Irtskavina. Mm-hmm.

My DMs are open. Are you good, Hank? Mm-hmm. Hank's not good. Hank's been fired up today. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I'm literally just sitting here. I like it. It's been a long day. I like you sitting. I don't like sit well. Thanks. Oh, you're welcome. Uh, okay. Let's let's do some more rapid fire. And then we're going to get to Mount Rushmore of household items. And we also have Caleb Williams and Joel

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with code takes spent five bucks to get 200 in rewards within 21 days. That's code taken partnership with draft kings. The crown is yours. Okay. Back to rapid fire. You guys ready. National sports podcast. Uh, next up we're just not going to have baseball next year. Yeah. So the the offer that was made by the owners. They want a hard cap. Uh, the hardest cap. Yeah. So in its next CBA the league is proposing a max contract length of five years for free agent players switching team six

years to retain their own players. No deferred contracts qualifying offers gone to also five years to free agency for players 30 or older. It just feels like we're so far away. I don't know what

lost baseball we're going to have to figure out what to do in the South. So there's no summer Olympics

“next year is there? No. No. No. It's a odd year. So there's nothing. No euro. Nothing. No euros. Right?”

Nothing next summer. I don't know what euros is. It's the it's basically the World Cup for Europe. Got it. Yeah. We have no sports. No women's World Cup. No. We have nothing. We need something. We're in trouble. We're the same means. Games. WMBA. WMBA. Well, that's also on they're trying to get. Yeah, that's also the National Sports Podcasts. How many? Because they're trying to get Caitlyn Clark dead. Can I just can I say something about the Caitlyn Clark situation? I would like to opt out

of all Caitlyn Clark discourse until she went something. Why are wasting all the Caitlyn,

the big one? She was talking about a loser. She's never won. She's never won a title. Yeah,

it takes back. Yeah, in my right. Let's go hang. We're all ringing our hands. Oh, they're killing the guts. Oh, no. They're killing us. He just hit us with the UNO reverse. He's now saying

“you're making the same point for the US man. They're not. That's completely different because that's”

I am also doing the same thing. I you just said spoke to me so much. It's I will do the same thing. We're going. That was a power move. It's not. Big cats kissing up kids. No, that was the thing. We're rooting for our country. Caitlyn Clark hasn't won anything. That's my point. And to where we don't talk about the US like they're the best team in the world. We do talk about Caitlyn. We don't. That's your straw man. There's the straw man. Hangs been building. I definitely. I knew

we'd come up. I knew I'd see that we fell. Caitlyn hasn't won anything yet. You've got to give a credit when he makes a good fund. I'm glad that that hangs. It's that excited now. That was a funny point

by hey to be animated. He got you on that one for a second. I appreciate that hang sprung off

off the couch a little bit. Yes. Caitlyn Clark choked out and also they did like a 30 year WMBA like calendar or something and Caitlyn Clark just wasn't on it. So the calendar again, if people are diving deep into calendars, that calendar was because of her sponsorship obligations. Oh, yeah. So they looked at that. There's a lot of shitty players that are on that calendar. Okay. And Sophie Cunningham was on there from her team. Caitlyn Clark makes everybody lose their minds.

They are, though, like it is kind of crazy. They should be protecting their cash count. They did change the rules. Yeah. For her. They should be, I mean, she does make them the most amount of money. There's, um, there's a lot of people that are very jealous of her. A lot of people in the WMBA that clearly go after her enforces on her team need to step up. What, why are we paying Sophie Cunningham all this money? Like, that's when you get in there. You start throwing some elbows.

Yeah. Um, all right. Next one, uh, Terian Arnold. That's bad. Okay. Next one out. Okay. Okay. Okay. I want to say that from the top. Cut and dry. Anti kidnapping. That said, if you're going to kidnap somebody for stealing your jewelry, you're going to want to make sure that the people you kidnap are actually the guys that stole your jewelry. But also that said, it feels like they had their shit together outside of finding the right people. True. Dead. Combs are great. Didn't

you say they were like, allegedly live streaming or something. Yeah. They have to. No, no, they were,

“they, I think they were not live streaming out to the world. They were live streaming like to”

the chop through each other. So they had comms going. Yeah. Like dead. They had a live camp. Don't do not let bad bad. Everything bad. Again, don't come back. Wait. Oh, but they, it seems like they'd done it maybe before because they were, they were really tight with it. They, but I probably see not that tight. They got caught. Well, they got, he got snished off.

So that's first card got to get a full man. That's the other thing is, um, if you find yourself

in a situation where you get a bunch of jewelry stolen and you think, you know, who did it and you go to the police and you file a police report and you tell them, hey, somebody stole my jewelry. That's not the best time to then go after the guys that you just told the police about because they know that you are the one with a motive. And then also, if you do it, you got to want to make sure that the guys that help you don't snitch you out later. And then also, if that happens,

you're going to want to make sure that you don't find yourself at a place where there's no one left from you to snitch on. So it seems like Terry on Arnold, uh, he went over on all those instructions.

and don't kidnap anybody. Yes. No kidnaping. Oh, back to Austin Reeves. He got his max

contract 1585 million. He was on the golf course when it happened,

live reaction, which that was cool. Like, you know, pretty pretty awesome to see someone, like, hey, guess what, you have 185 million guaranteed. Uh, PFT were you tagged at all and people saying, hey, that's not the word. Now, triums not the worst contract. Yeah, like a million, a million different times. Listen, it might be a good contract. Might not be a good contract. We don't know. Beautiful

“thing about sports is we get to find out. I think Wendy said that they could trade that with a second”

round pick. Okay. That's good. Thanks, Wendy. Yeah. Well, we, next time we have Wendy on, he'll, he'll walk that back. You're going to, he's going to hear from you. He's going to walk that one back. He's going to hear from you. Big time. Okay. Anything else? Uh, yeah. Our long national nightmare is over. Oh, Brian Kelly is going to be on TV next year. Yes. So, um, promises made promises delivered. They heard what we wanted America and he's going to be calling mountain west games.

Maybe in the booth actually. Yeah. Booker mobile. Um, Brian Kelly. Mm-hmm. The, things no one wanted or asked for. Brian Kelly on TV. My, all right. So, he, he would go ahead. I was going to say my theory about this is why we're Brian Kelly to take a mountain west assignment. If you just look at the towns, the college towns that the mountain west has some really good golf.

Mm-hmm. Some absolutely incredible. Sure. Any creative for for mountain west. Yeah.

Um, the only positive spin zone I have for Brian Kelly on TV because I don't want to watch Brian Kelly on TV is if he embraces the Jim Bayheim, I'm just a grumpy dude and I fucking hate doing this, but I had to keep my name relevant. Mm-hmm. Roll. I get to kick out of those guys. Yeah. Jim Bayheim, if you were watching Bayheim call a college basketball game, he's miserable. Yeah. Miserable. I do respond Kelly can do that. I do respect coaches. I do that that hate the media

while they're coaching and then they get into the media and they continue to hate the media. Mm-hmm. I don't like the guys again in the media and they all the sudden like change everything.

“Yeah. Okay. Uh, I think that's oh, I had a no duh.”

What? You guys got to get on here, don't you? No, no, we're good. I thought 1130.

Oh, she won't tell me there's 1120. No, no, we're good. No, keep it on. Keep it on. Keep, keep, keep this in. We're PFC and I are going on many blazers, which you can go watch. Probably can say the same shit because it's it's late. A lot of the same shit and it's it's late. I'm going to say the hot girls thing for sure. And maybe we'll have,

hey, do you want to join with us? No. We could just do the fight again in front of them. Yeah. I don't make everyone uncomfortable. I don't like, I just don't. I would, I just remove me from the soccer discourse. I don't need to be like, take them out. You guys can talk soccer. He wants out. I'm not going to hate. Okay. He wants out.

Maybe, maybe mute the word soccer. I don't mind seeing it. I just don't like it. It has nothing to do with it. I just don't. You just don't want to be involved. I'd yeah. Doesn't concern you. Right. Keep, keep, keep, keep, keep all that over there. Soccer, keep, keep, keep, Hank's name out of your lips. You guys keep my name off your lips when talking soccer. We got to keep Hank's lips off soccer.

Keep Hank's from getting his lips on those balls. What is it? What's it called? What's this ball called? Uh, what is it? The Trianda? Okay. That is a lame thing that they do,

“whether they just name every ball soccer ball. Why are we naming it every time?”

I'd like them to bring back the old, uh, black and white with the pinnogons on it. Yeah, that would be cool. Okay. Let me saw you. Maybe it'd be better at kicking. Oh, yeah. My no duh was uh, the Adam Silver saying the goal over time has been and I've said it to be more NFL like where you believe your team has a shot. What does he watch the NFL? There's a lot of teams that don't feel like they have a shot. There's a lot of dark shit teams. Yeah, I think what he

what he means by that is that he wish he wishes that basketball was harder to tank in. Like the NFL, you see it every year. Yeah, it's one or two teams that are really good at tanking that are able to feel the team that just is non-competitive on purpose because there's so many people on an NFL roster and they're all playing for the next contract. It's hard to tell a team to tank in football and but he wishes that he had that same issue in basketball. And he also likes the

parody which I like, parody's fun to a point, but Dynasties are what get people, you know, upset and passionate like Dynasties are, you know, teams of the decade and all that stuff. So you can't have just a new winner every single year. You need a couple of Dynasties. Okay, let's let's go to Mount Rushmore

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“to say Mount Rushmore of best home appliances, but that would be the Mount Rushmore. Would it not?”

Yeah, it would. Yeah, this Mount Rushmore. I think it's been a great Mount Rushmore season so far. I feel like we haven't even started. Yeah, it's like, you know, and the season doesn't start till like after all. So the Ivy's green, Mount Rushmore season does start to laughter for the July. Yeah, but right now we're all on pace to tie. Yeah. Yeah, soccer. Yeah, soccer. We're drawn.

Henry, you are up first, not just me. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, it's ax on your team, too.

Jesus. And then I'm second and then worth. And then you guys are third. Yeah, we're third. Memes by the way, I'm not going to, no, you don't let's have. Yeah, no, let's hear it. Let's say he's being he's being brutal today. Memes what's been going on. No one deserved to be slapped more than a by maxial today. He did. I agree with you. Yeah, well, you were yelling. You're all mean, you're sitting in your chair and Zach's going to get water. You're like, Zach,

Korea, I've got water. I said Zach and Hank's sucking Zach's dick at the water station. I'm helping them. Like, you could learn a thing or two about helping out your co-workers. We're helping every day. You're sucking his dick? No, I was just, I was giving him a hand. I like a good friend. Listen, we're going to, we got to keep the three-man team might be in a little bit of this advantage. There's only one ball. So we're,

I had a very busy day. I went from thing to thing to thing. We have Joel,

“shout out Joel, who brings his truck here and gives us all haircuts. I think Hank got a haircut,”

Max got a haircut. I had a 20-minute window to get a haircut. So I told memes and Max, let's meet Joel's truck and we can just talk about Mount Rushmore then. Memes just said to Max, already said, I already texted my picks. I don't need to meet. Yeah, I don't know if you know this but hey, you're not, you're not trying to move today. I don't know if you heard you've been away for a while. He doesn't try and choose anymore. Well, no, you guys are, you guys are better at it. And then I said my list.

No, I was definitely not true. That is not true. Listen, we talked it through as a team. And we had a beautiful time in the truck. Tell you what, my locker room is having a great time. Yeah, we're all on the same page over here. All right, Mount Rushmore of Home Appliance is Henry. For our one-one pick, we are going to go with the refrigerator. I don't know what Zack has written on this list. Okay. Wow, not Kumbaya. No, no. I don't think it's, I think I can say it because I don't think it's a thing.

I don't think it's Kumbaya. It's just his aircon. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm up second.

And for our first take, what are taking with that? This is aircon. Yeah, we're one-one. I mean, what it is. I'm taking airconditioners. Yeah, it was number one on my list anyway. It was number one on our list.

“It's the best invention, maybe, of all time. But like, you don't need, you need to refrigerate it”

for 365 days a year. You don't need an airconditioner for 365 days a year. If you didn't have an airconditioning, I'd say like 40% of people that listen to us would die. No, you could have fans. I grew up without airconditioning in my house. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you live like in the north, like very far up north. But if you live anywhere south, that's just isn't very far up north.

Master, it's pretty far north. You just get fans. I'm just shocked that you didn't know what aircon was. Oh, yeah. Once I said it all out again. We're burying the lead here. We're getting, arguing about airconditioning. Because airconditioning is a clear top pick in the straf. Aircon, Zack.

I apologize on behalf of Hank. No, it's an easy mistake. It is full word at the top of the list. But then that's like a third list. We're trying to re-organize last minute. What numbers we wanted to go with which, so wouldn't fully spell out there. Fridge is though. Very important. You can just leave your doors and windows open. If you're trying to catch a breeze even in the summer, though, when you come to airconditioning.

No, there's no, one of the best feelings in the entire. If we did amount rush more feelings, close to the top would be the feeling on a hot day when you walk into airconditioning. But like if you don't, if you don't have an airconditioner,

You can walk around smelly like the French. Again, like I, I didn't have airconditioner until I was an adult.

“So you were smelly. No, fans. You live by the sea. I think you probably smell a little bit.”

Showers. Yeah. No, you told us showers don't work. No, I said, so doesn't work. Shampoo. Shampoo should work under your free armpits. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's just true. What do we do, boys? We knew it was going to go that way before. Although 310. I mean, this is the debate. We had for 25 minutes. I was, I was, I was, I was off on this. It's two against one. So let's go 310.

All right. So we did have like a top three and A C refrigerator one and two and we think that microwave is number three because you need the microwave for everything. It's, you use it way more

than you realize. It's the microwave. You got to use it. And then our second pick is going to be

a grill. Okay. Thoughts is a grill and appliance. We had this debate. We looked it up. It said it was. Do you guys not think it's an appliance? I think it's a borderline call. I think if you're going to think it's a great pick. So I'm fine with it. If you're going to make the argument

“that stove is an appliance, I think most people would agree that stove is an appliance. Yeah.”

I then a grill is just an outdoor stove. You hate the pick. It's, you made the pick. Okay. But yeah, you don't, you don't need anything that you could do on a grill. You could do a stove. Yeah, but it'll grill is better. Oh, Max, see this is why we can't have three people on a team. I'm saying everything. I was saying everything that Hank was saying. Thanks make a lot of sense. Grills fucking stakes, burgers, fries. Again, like, you know,

season, you guys are choosing these seasonal things. Okay. Okay. I love, I do love grills. I also, we also had a problem because memes just kept on calling at the BBQ. Yeah, it's barbecue. It's not. No, you make BBQ on the grill. barbecue. It's a grill. It's a grill. It's a grill. It's a grill. It's a, it's a, it's a for sure grill. barbecue. Okay.

barbecue is a, yeah, we got, we got, we got to do like a kumbaya team buildings thing.

“Yeah, you might have lost a locker room. I think we just lost memes. I don't know what memes”

is just like he does. He doesn't exist anymore. He just is a champion out in space. Yeah, you got a diva, you got a diva. I think it's being a huge diva. Aircon. Yeah, that was really stupid, Hank. All right. I mean, it's not like I wasn't going to take

air conditioner. Go ahead. Yeah. No, brainer. Uh, second one TV.

That, I don't think he's an appliance. That is not an appliance. We, we look that up. It's, it's found in the appliance section. No, I don't think it's not. It's found in the electronic section. Yeah. The Microsoft Copile was telling me that it was for sure not an appliance. Okay. I expected a little push back here. And the note I had next to the push back was if the push back is fierce, give this one up. Yeah, because we want to take it back. That's good. No, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.

Good teamwork. It's a push back was minimal. I was going to push it through. It seems to be pretty firm. It's a good pick because we wanted to pick it. And then when we did the research, we're like, we can't pick it because it's not an appliance. Okay. All right, Fair enough. Uh, that said, I will take, I'll take the indoor version of a grill, the stove. Okay. Good. The mighty stove oven combination. It's the same unit. Uh, the stove oven. It's where

food is done. The graphic just says stove, though. Okay. Mm-hmm. All right. Hank, are Zach picking. Zach is picking. Zach is picking. What do you think about at the very top? Hey, what do you think about number four? No, just picks it out. All right. Just pick up. I would like to do a dish washer. Okay. Good pick. Good pick. Good pick. And then I will go with a vacuum. Okay. That sucks. That does. Yeah. Some good shit right there. No way. That was a way out of

Ron. Zach. Talks it out. Okay. PFT. Okay. Uh, my next pick, I'm going to go garbage disposal. Mm. Good one. Living without a garbage disposal in New York City, really makes you miss having a garbage disposal. I had no garbage disposal apartment. It was

brutal. It makes your entire life somewhat. The garbage disposal is, it's amazing. Max, do you

apologize to us now? Because you're literally your number one pick is still there for us. Well, we got it. We got it. We got it. We got it. All right. Wash the dryer. Wash the dryer. Gotta have a washer. Yeah. Max was stopping hard for a washer dryer and I understand it. If you live in an apartment without a washer dryer, it's like like having to go up and down stairs, having to go to laundry mat. It's brutal. If you're in your 20s, the 30s and you're looking

for an apartment. At some point, you get to an age where it's like number one non-negotiable in-unit washer dryer. You have to have it. You can't live without it. Yeah. I think we try nine.

I'm thinking, no. Okay. No. Let's try garage fridge. Garage fridge. It's totally different than regular refrigerator. It's totally different than regular refrigerator. Absolutely not. No fridges. I'm

seeing such a staple. You just have to have a second one. I'm sure. I'm seeing a point. You're

garage fridge. You're all the beer. It has nothing that you actually need in terms of like

“sustenance. Okay. So here's the thing. Sometimes that's the main phrase. I hate maybe a birthday cake.”

I have a birthday cake. I think they cat made an excellent point that it is. It's functionally different, completely different from the house fridge. And then I think Zach came over the top and made an even better point saying, so it's such a good appliance that you have to have two of them. But it's a garage fridge. I think that's a great point. You say to someone, hey, can you put this in the garage fridge? I'm going to say this in the refrigerator. It's the same as

a fridge. Unfortunately. I understand. I understand. I understand. But it's exactly this. A garage fridge is different. You know it is. I just think fridge is so good. Well, wash your dryers also. We let you add that one, but that's also two appliances. Well, we gave it. Well, he has stove and love it. You have fridge and freezer. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you just walked into that. So do you want us to take freezer here? No, I'm going to take freezer. Yeah, you want to take freezer. I'm just saying

you want to take freezer? Yeah. If you want to. No, no, I don't know. I did not agree that. Yeah,

“why do you have to choose which washer dryer. Oh, you want. Then you have to choose the”

free fridge. Those those appliances we gave PFT stove up in fridge. You get fridge freezer washer. You get washer dryer. Okay. That's fair. All three of us got. I'm a refrigerator. You get refrigerator and garage refrigerator. I know you get such a free fridge. The garage refrigerator is totally different than the refrigerator. I don't think I don't hit the garage. Yes, it does not count.

I said, you know, you never had one. Yeah, you know, everyone has. You never had a garage.

What do you, what do you, what do you, what do you got it, what do you, I get a garage growing up? Anywhere, a refrigerator in there? Is it our basement? Is it our basement? Is it our basement? Is it our basement? Is it our basement? Is it our basement? I didn't say basement for fridge. I said garage. I don't think it should count for this amount of rush more. I don't think it's a separate pick. I'm totally different, but you agree. I agree. It's different for the Zach made just the Zach. You're standing. Zach,

pathetic by you. Can I speak with question? Yeah. Is washer dryer like washer would be a rinse and spin dryer would be tumble and dry and then or no. Like on the two features of a washer rinse spin, two features of a dryer, tumble dry and then a fridge is just cold and colder.

“I don't understand the nature of the good question. Does it make them completely separate?”

No, it's like washer dryer combo. No, as a washer without a dryer. Yeah, you don't get it. They're like you don't like hey, no one has a fridge without a freezer. No one has a stove without an oven. Like they go all of those things go together. Can we just like embrace debate though, if you could only have one the washer or the dryer which one would be because washer I could hang you could hang. You could hang. I use the dryer on its own way more than I should to get the

wrinkles out. Yeah, just correct. Yeah, wrinkle release. All right, we just want to we just want to put an asterisk that we just garage fridge is a vital off garage for us. And it's like you got like when when can I just I know it's not counting. Can I at least talk about it? What? Yeah, I didn't say the face face this boy. This is why the podcast this is probably like they're so mean. They are watching no one hey, hey, there's a face and then he goes on and see.

No, but the problem is sometimes the watchers don't get it because someone else is talking

Yeah, and so the camera is on big cat, but Hank is doing the face while someone I started on the garage fridge and Hank went like this. I know it's not counting, but the garage fridge is a very important substance appliance that is needed in the ecosystem of the house, the beer when you like old soup, old birthday cake, you get like sometimes get a lot of pizza too much pizza ice cream because you're regular fridge full of ice cream. Yeah, that's true.

The turkey on Thanksgiving when you pasting it you got put it in the garage fridge. Mm-hmm. It's great. It is a different different function. There needs to be a Hank ice-o-cam that's like in the corner. Wait, so that the listeners can under other the people that watch can understand what Hank's doing when we're talking. The amount of things he says with his face without uttering a word is it's ridiculous and then he gets our reaction and we

look like monsters. Mm-hmm. Okay, I think we go seven or wait. Seven or six. I like seven. Hold on, let me see, let me, let me, let me. People love seven. Seven. Nine, so all right, air fryer, pander. No, it's not pander. You just said people love seven. Yeah, they do. Mm-hmm. People love seven, air fryer. Do you use air fryer? Yes, almost every day. Actually, we were toaster air fryer. It's basically just the toaster is pointless. Yeah.

Yeah, I have a toaster air fryer and I use it for everything. Air fryer is a pretty good. Yeah. It's the best for for leftovers. Incredibly, I've been everything. Everything.

office. No, the air fryer is a great invention that I did. What was your first pick?

“Uh, microwave. Oh, I'm sorry. We can't. I was curious. Oh, okay. This fucking guy. What's the problem here?”

Hi, apparently when Lee was just curious. You. Oh, okay. It is a different appliance. Totally different. You know the difference, right? Air fryer is for leftovers, right? What's microwave for? Dude, popcorn, heating, warming things up. What are you talking about? Air fryer is different. It serves a different person. I believe you have leftovers. If you don't have air fryer, then you get an air fryer. You get a crispy edge on it. So don't tell about your taste for like real food as like a microwave. Sometimes it's just like,

we're going to turn whatever is in this bowl into hot mush. And you're like, that sounds like so. Sounds like it wasn't a great first pick that. You don't have, that'll be up to the listener. You don't have

the thing about the food. I just realized we're pretty food heavy on. That's fine. It's like food.

You don't, you don't have a garage fridge or an air fryer. I have a garage. Pay out of it. Yeah, you're right. We didn't pick them. Not pander. All right. So it's not a pander. I use it all the time. Microwave an air fryer. I use more than anything in my case. I think I use it every day all day.

“All right. My last pick. I'm going to take coffee maker. Yep. That's what we were going to go.”

Coffee maker is big one. I'm probably the biggest coffee guy on the podcast, I guess. But I use it every day. I got the one that's the K Cup combo with the one with the pot in it. And it's uh, yeah. It's a must-have. Yeah. I use my coffee maker a lot as well. I don't know if I direct the cello blue ready to drink all this cool brew delicious. Zach, I think, but you probably need another fridge that. Nope. What by the way, since Hank is

ended Kubayah. The fucking guy took a vacuum. Like, yeah, sure. That's a terrible pick. Yeah, how many times do you vacuum? That's a terrible pick once a week. You, but that's the least enjoyable out of all of it. It's like it's short. Yeah. But it's way better than when you like, don't have a vacuum. There's also zero percent chance. Those are no vacuum. Hank does not vacuum once a week. And do you guys own that? Like everyone has owns a vacuum? No, yeah. I don't vacuum.

No chance. Because I saw the I saw the wheels turning and you're like, what is a socially acceptable? Yeah. A reasonable amount of time that I should say. So vacuum. If we use your same logic, would you say that the air conditioning is on more or the vacuum is on more? Cause your argument against PFT's air conditioning was essentially, we only use it for a few few months a year. People that use vacuum use them a lot. Okay. Oh, but, but we're pandering by

saying, yeah. Hank, I would like. Yeah. Yeah. The guy that was pandering. The guy that was exactly because of the way that memes set it up. It's like, oh, people love this one. I mean, they do. They're going to love this one. I was talking about not the pick. I was talking about air fry. I would love air fry. I want to see how long Hank could go without air conditioning. 18 years. That's a pretty long time. But right now, it's a pretty long time. Again, I like I

my building has an air conditioner like built into it. I lived my life without one. I would be like one blow my mind not having one. How long could go without vacuuming? I don't know about that one. Who loves it so much? Did you guys know that in Europe? They think that air conditioner is like they damage you. Yeah. That they make you sick. Yeah. They say that you get like thermal shock. Well, if you don't clean your air conditioning, that's true. But no, they say over in like France

that if it's like 15 degrees warmer outside than it is and whatever building you walk into, you get thermal shock and it can give you a heart attack. They're so dumb. They're idiots. All right, Hank. I will say like my dad's solution to no air conditioning because it was kind of miserable, but he bought warehouse sized fans. Like I had an industrial size fan in my

“bedroom that like that's what I would have to like have blasting on me to fall asleep. So my”

my house growing up, it was central air throughout the entire house except for my bedroom,

which was on like a separate floor. Like every other every other bedroom is on the first floor

and then mine and my brothers were on the second floor as the only place that didn't have AC and it fucking sucks. Yeah. No, I was I was no central air for like a lot of years. It was the compartment of the window units. It's got doors and windows. Oh yeah. You're good to go. Once I got the high school, we got the window units, but up until when I was a kid, it was just put as many fans around my bed as possible. I sold the portable air conditioners for a while.

When I was in Texas and let me tell you what people people do not understand how to use an air conditioner. They just would think that they would put this thing in the middle of their room. Yeah. They would understand that you'd have to vent it out of a window. Otherwise, you're just blown

killed our office in Milton because we broke the air conditioner. No, we had we had air conditioner in the

window. We had air conditioner in the window and then for whatever reason they never ever

rid of the old air conditioner and that was in the floor. And I plugged in the old air conditioner for like weeks at a time. You do get the cold air that they're like, why isn't it cold? Those

“are like, oh, yeah. This one's been on. All right, Zach, urge it us? Yeah, last pick. I think you I think”

three or six, whichever, whichever, fits your fancy. We was like take hot tub. Okay. Great thing. I thought about taking swimming pool. I thought about taking sauna. Didn't take it. Didn't not very related. Yeah, hot tubs. I won't love the hot tub. Yeah, I have one. It's awesome. I don't know if it's very, yeah, you can use it at three, 165 days a year. I'm not sure what it's super hot. No, our super cold. No, super cold is the best. We talked about

soft serve machine. Yeah. It's not so soft for machines to get the clients. What was the other ones we had? I did have swimming pool. I think that's an appliance. Meems wanted just to do convertible roof because you still doesn't understand how I'm going to have to have you over. Ice machine. I know that it comes a lot of times. That was the other one. Ice machine. If you have an ice machine, it's a leaps. Yep. It'll get the pellet ice. I had a spade. Or you get the big,

the big square ice machines. I've signed note if you guys want mine. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Literally never use it. Many phrases that's still in the fridge. I'll sort it for you. Okay. All right.

Okay. You're ready? Is that different from a phrase? Oh, that's a phrase. Yeah. I think it's a greater. No, okay. I think it's a greater. I would I would still a fridge, but yeah. No, okay, greater, different. Then we'll talk the more we're, the fridge is good. Good. But it is a fridge. fridge is a good thing. No one took toaster. I think the air fryer has come toaster. It's done. Yeah, it's going to tough. Tough couple years with the toaster. Yeah. I said waffle maker and then

me said no punini maker. And I said no to both of those. Yeah. Then we went back to air fryer clutch. That could deep fryer. Deep fryer's good. Okay. Waffle. Do you guys have waffle makers? Don't have a waffle maker, but I do love waffle. Great. You might be a kid thing because we

make waffles all the time. Great. I love it. Yeah. And but the griddle is almost like something

that you put on top of a stove. Mm-hmm. No. Or a grill. I have a griddle. It's a it's show clutch. Yeah, and you plug you, you have it. There are a lot of ways to put on top of this. And then you plug it in like I would have mine on my counter. Oh, it's like like a George Foreman. Yeah. I like a, you know, a rectangular griddle. Like a hot plate. Yeah, hot plate. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I had space heater. Chick's love space heaters. Yeah. They love chicks are chicks. But that's it. Yeah. I'm not counting that.

That's disgusting. How how cold chicks are. Yeah. It gets so cold. It's chicks love starting fires. They get so fucked. Any man who is that who is cold. You're not a man. It's not a man. Yeah. Agreed. No. Men don't get cold. We fucking put on a coat. Put on a sweatshirt. Yeah. I, I go in my

“sauna. That's what a man does. Oh, the sky. I hate it. No, it is. Oh, the man. That's like a heating”

pad. Oh, my God. Or if they're like, oh, I'm cold. You have a blanket that I can use. Yeah, it. Oh, I, that's what gives me the egg. Oh, I did. Then again, I do like a blanket in my own home. But that's different. I was to say, I had one of my, my best friends used to come over and watch the pairs on Sundays. And this is before PMT when we wash it home. And he would ask for a blanket, but not because he was cold because he was so hungover. You just would fall asleep. Oh, my

couch. That's okay. That's okay. I like that. What do you think about fireplace? Is that an appliance? I don't know. Maybe the, I know, but I think a fire pit is. No, fire. Yeah. It's literal. Yes. No, no, no, like an out, like the, like the outdoor. Oh, yeah. And that's definitely not an appliance. No, no, he's saying like a fire fire table. Yeah, like those, you know, the fire table, you can drive those, like, yeah, smoke, this, the smokeless ones, those. Yes. Those are

technological, like, like, I love those. Yeah, yeah, smokeless fire pit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

“we have to prioritize with them. They're, they're elite. You should get one. Oh, yeah, they're”

great. I have a, I have a little thing with, like, rocks in the rocks have flames coming out, but not actual flames. No, they are, but no smoke. Correct. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, like that. Something like we can't see anything. You didn't do pressure rocks. Well, so I thought about doing pressure wash, but then that seems more like it's like lawn care. Yeah, I don't think it about lawn mower. We're thinking I'll leave blow. I don't know that I would call those appliances.

I'd call that that's a tool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably true. Yeah. That's probably right. Okay. Good job, boys. We also have you, you want to say him, Microsoft Copilot's picks. What were they? They had refrigerator one stove to washing machine three.

do you mean we only got two of those? Yeah, I know, but I mean that was because the other two

“got picked before it. They came back to you. No, just Copilot's smart. Mm. Okay. Good amount”

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plus members more access, more rewards and more football for 150 bucks. You get both the deluxe, deluxe editions of Madden NFL 27 and college football 27. It's normally 200. And you can become an MVP plus member before the window closes on July 1st. Caleb, let's let's I love seeing you. I'm going to try not to be a weirdo in this interview because I love you so much. We're now. Yeah, but let's start with the cover. What was your, when you got called by EA

“and you're like, "Hey, we want you to be the cover of Madden." What went through your head?”

Yeah, I mean, it's a childhood dream, any football player or any athlete that has a video game based off their sport, I think, would dream to be on the cover. And so it's such a historical game such as historical moment for myself and also Chicago itself and Chicago bears that when the call happened, I tried to play it cool. And then I got off the phone and called, you know, some of my closest friends and was like, y'all want to cover Madden. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's like we all grew up playing Madden and it's one of those iconic video games. And to be on the cover, do you, is there any part of you that was like, I don't want to say the see word, but people were like, "Oh, no, you know, but I'm not thinking about that. You're not thinking about that." I don't believe in those things. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, those things. We're not going to mention it, but I don't believe in them. I don't think they're real and stuff.

We're going to go prove it. Okay. Did you in exchange for being on the cover today, give you any insight or any input as to your rating overall? Not, not, they gave me insight on my rating, but not Final Cut. I don't have, I don't have any input on necessarily the rating. So we'll get the rating adjusted at that by the end of the year. Is there a certain aspect of the

“rating that you're looking at and you're like, they're kind of short-changing me on this?”

Just overall, you know, everything, yeah, everything, everything. So we'll prove it. You could just get in the sliders, just bump up the sliders. I get accused of that every time I play. Yeah. But with the sliders and put it on Ricky mode or whatever it is. Do you have a burner account that

No, nobody knows what my game attack is. So it's always a burner for me. Okay.

And is it always the bears? Well, yeah, now, obviously, since I'm playing, it's always the bears. It's not anybody else. Yeah, you got to play with yourself, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. If I was, if I was in the game, I'd play with myself all the time. The only other one. Like, if the grown man is playing with somebody else, I'm going to look at him like, I did play with

yourself. Yeah, leave me alone. I'm going to go to my room. I'm going to play with myself. Yeah, mom, I'm not now. Yeah, you don't want to go blind, though. I know vision is very important to quarterback. So make sure that you take care of that. A lot of carrots. How is this offseason going for you is coach keeping your thirsty? Because I know that like last year, things were hard.

“And he made them hard on purpose going at camp. And you could feel that. I think what was the”

quote that you had like, it felt like you were drowning or something like that. Um, yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been challenging. He's on me about about different things now. Um, that helps us win games. Helps me be better. Helps me be a better teammate. Helps me be better on the field. Um, and then and then he's also just giving me more, more small nuggets about certain plays and coverages and things like that that, you know, obviously at the end of the day, help us help us

have more explosive plays. Um, you know, hit receivers and strides on on things that, you know, you may have been guessing on last year and like, uh, is this the coverage and now it's, you know, you flip around and and it's like, okay, yeah, I know what the coverage is. Let's, let's show this. Let's throw this bomb and then, you know, times where he gives me those nuggets and, um, it's new and it's not something that I've practiced and it's, it's taking reps to get it in my mind and see

the coverages or things like that and flip it around and, um, alerting those things. But then

“when I'm not, he gets told me about about, you know, let's, we're going for these. You know,”

when this, when this cover show is up, it's premier coverage is what we call it and, you know, let's take the shots and, and trust whoever severs, you know, make, you know, make plays for us. Yeah. Do, do, do, uh, how often like, you know, week, are you sitting down with Ben Johnson, like, one on one where he's giving you time and you guys like, that's a major, or, or in season. Uh, let's, let's say offseason, start with off season then in season off season, uh,

depends on the time of the all season. Um, so this past, uh, this past, whatever, OTAs and, uh, mini camp, uh, we end up meeting at the end of the week, um, any questions or anything like that.

I can obviously always ask him, but, um, we end up meeting at the end of the week and we go through

the whole week, um, and then, and then kind of preparing for that, you know, what we're preparing for next week. And then during the season, we've made every day. Oh, that's awesome. How long are those meetings every day? Uh, they can be from hour 30 to 2 hours and 30 at the end of the night. Oh, that's a lot. Yeah, because like, that's, that's not, I don't think that's totally normal for every head coach in the NFL. They're, you know, especially. Yeah. But that's, that's, I would

imagine you're learning a ton every time you meet with them, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I learned a ton. Um, anything he says, you know, you got there and you do and you, you practice, you work on it. You, you know, it's when you're conscious and, uh, you're conscious of it. And, and you got there and rep them and, you know, get these reps in and it pays off. And so,

“um, you know, those means are really important to me and really important to him.”

Did you, so last year, obviously, uh, you know, didn't go all the way, but it was such an incredible

memorable year, especially with all the comebacks and in the playoff victory against the packers. But throughout the year, as, as it's building, was there a moment that you're like, okay, this is starting to really like click. I have a moment, my head. I, I'm just wondering if in your head, there was a moment where it's like, all right, now I'm, now I'm seeing it. Now I can kind of understand what Ben Johnson is telling me and, and it all kind of makes sense. Yeah. Uh, there's a point where

the offense clicked for me better is probably near halfway through the season. Um, but my trust with Ben clicked after our first two losses and, and, and I knew that he had my back, um, and what he was saying and, you know, how we, how we spoke to each other and address, you know, the topic of, of us going on to that, you know, at the start of the last year. Um, so those, those two things were, were different time periods. Those, you know, the, the trust part was probably,

like I said, after the first two games and then, um, the offense and stuff started to, to click better for me, probably half way through the year. Yeah, the third game in season, the gateway game. I was, I was, I was telling to everyone I could find because I got a little down after the first game. I'll admit that, but then after the second game, I was like, you know what, if, if we beat the Cowboys, watch out. Like we're going to end up being six and three or somewhere

around there and then people are going to start opening their eyes and it went exactly like that. Yeah, no, it was, uh, it was really, really fun, really cool to kind of have that experience of not trust to them, uh, and, you know, not, not being an offense, not this and that, not really

it only built belief and confidence in him through the tough time. Obviously, you don't want to

start your career off as a coach as 0 and 2, especially not at the Bears. Um, and, and we did just that and, and the way he could, you know, the way he handled it, the way he, you know, we spoke to each other about it, you know, how we were going to adjust, how we were going to get better, how we were going to do this and that. We went and did that and then like I said, halfway through the year, the offense

“clicked for for us and for me and, um, I think, I think we got on a, uh, a good, good, hot street.”

In these meetings, was there a moment because, you know, the, the, obviously, the iconic him taking

off his shirt after the victory in the weiner circle, was there a moment in the meetings leading up to that where he was like, hey, Caleb, do you think I should do this? Like, do you think I'm, do you think I'm, do you think I'm ripped enough? He's, he's mentioned it, uh, he mentioned it once before, uh, just because I think somebody in the facility brought it up to him and, uh, he was, he mentioned it, he's like, I got it, I got to get into Jim a little bit before, um, I, I end up

doing that and obviously, uh, he works out and he, you know, he's getting after it and, and so,

“I think, I think everybody knew about it at that point and I think it was just a spur of the”

moment thing for him. Yeah, they should model that in Madden where like press X to take your shirt off after the big one. For a lot of talks for everyone as a head coach. Yeah. And then if you do it too early in the season, your players blew you. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like there was a certain thing

though after the second week that that made you kind of connect with him. What was that?

Yeah. I think I think it was going through the, uh, that O and 2 star obviously, I don't want to start O and 2 after going 5 and 11 or whatever it was the 5 and 12 the, uh, my first year and then we start O and 2 and it's like, you know, just just, it could turn into bad energy, it could turn into negative negativity and, um, the way he responded, you know, ended up building a lot of, a lot of confidence and belief and trusted him and, um,

“obviously he knows who he is. He knows who is a coach as a play caller. And so, um, having that belief and trust, I think that the trust part is, is one of the biggest things that I think people,”

don't recognize, um, that that watch from the outside. And so, when you trust your coach and trust what he says and you grow out there and you do those things and next few those things and and even end up times. I think it, I think it shows up how we, how we showed up, you know, halfway through the year and, and then, you know, to the end of the year. And you guys got rewarded for, for the last season by getting like every single prime time game in this upcoming season. So congratulations with that one. Do you like playing tonight?

I love playing tonight. Um, it's, it's, it's the game of the night. It's nobody else's own. It's us and, and the other team on the other side of ball and, uh, you know, let's, let's, let's battle it out. Yeah. Yeah. How much, uh, how much you listen to the haters? Are you letting them fuel you because I, what did you say? Yeah. I love them. It's my favorite thing. Okay. My favorite thing. Yes. I love that because I, I, I have gotten to love the haters of you too because they're so wrong. And they're boxed over watchers. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the, they, they, they, they would don't watch the game and then they're like, oh, 50, 52% completion percentage is like,

right. You just weren't watching the game, dude. So you, you'd like the haters fuel you. Oh, yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's, I don't need them, uh, but it's always, it's always a low extra belief in myself. Low extra confidence in myself. It's a little more, um, delusion that adds myself. Um, it's, it's all these things combined and, um, it's just, it just throws a little bit of gas on, on the fire and all you need is a little bit. Have the haters ever been right about anything? Were you here? The haters and you're like, that's actually a good point. I might, I might want to listen to you.

Um, no. No, not the, the completion percentage because you had our guys to even chat the other week. He's, he loves saying that. Yeah, that's all right. And I, I've, I've met, but I'm at throw the ball away the most, um, to try and keep us in, in advantageous positions because I know coach will go forward on fourth down. Um, so I'm not, I'm not fearful of, of, of only having three downs. I also know our ability and how explosive we are. So, um, you know, I'm not, I'm not fearful of, like I said, throwing it, you know, throwing out a bounds,

dirt in it, um, obviously scramble and people count my scramble seconds of holding a ball, but, uh, you know, there's a bunch of different things that that I can go into that that I know that people speak about and, um, stats aren't always, I don't always, you know, something that you should look at and you should look at, you know, how they win games. And so, um, yeah. So, somebody should come up with that stat though for the best incompletions because you do have some of the best incompletions, like winning plays that actually show up as, you know, a decline in the completion percentage, but ultimately keeps you guys alive where you could take a sack or you could throw a pick or something like that.

Yeah, but it's, it's, it's a, it's a stat for the QB, whether it's a, um, a throw away, um, whether it's a, a drop, whether it's, you know, whatever, whatever the case may be. So, um, a tip pass, all these different things. So, uh, it doesn't obviously, I want to, I want to get that up, get the completion percentage up, um, but, but some of the things that I, that I do, that I do on the field, um, is, is, it negatively impacts that.

“So, um, it's all right. We'll get it up this. Just to, just to shut everybody up and, and help everybody, uh, understand.”

See, you're going to tell me this is crazy and stupid. I kind of want you to get it down. I want, I want the bears to win like 15 games.

No, no, but I want the bears to win 15 games. You throw for like 45 touchdowns, 45 hundred yards, and it's like 49% completion percentage. Just so the haters can be like, "Oh, look at this!" And then I can keep just swatting out of my mind. Yeah, no, we, uh, so I mean, I've looked up, I've looked up all the greatest, uh, guys, uh, from Peyton to Tom to, to, to, uh, Patrick to, all these different guys and, um, on average there from, most of them are, are 65 to, to 63 completion, 62 completion, and which is surprising, uh, at least to me was surprising because it's only 2% off 3% off.

“Right. So we'll get, we'll make everybody's heart feel warm and, um, and lovely, um, and it'll also help us, um, you know, in the long run of winning games and, uh,”

you know, starting games better, starting games faster, starting, you know, doing all these, all the, all of those things, um, because we know end of the game is,

all goes into our hands, if, if it's a close game, uh, ball goes into my hands and, whatever receivers hands, and so, uh, just keeping the guys on the, on the field longer, uh, longer time or possession, scoring faster, all these different things. So we'll, we'll, we'll get the completion, uh, completion percentage up. Okay. Fine. All right. I actually can deal with that. I just, I, I have to say, like, two of my favorite things to do online is to, to swat away Caleb Williams haters and PCA haters,

like when he hit the, when he hit the cycle the other day and then got picked off, it was like, I actually was kind of laughing because I was like, now I get to just go after all these haters who are going to say that he had a bad game when he hit a fucking cycle. Yeah. No, it's, we, we live in a, we live in Chicago, man. It's, it's a, it's a tough city, it's a tough city to play in and luckily enough, we got the right guys, but, you know, we got a good young core of, of Chicagoans now that, that, you know, play for all the different teams and, um, we love it. We love it. All of us do.

Yeah. So speaking of a plan in Chicago, um, can we talk about the playoff game? Yeah. Did you go back, did you watch that game on TV? Yeah, I love, I love watching. I watch every, I love watching us play. I love watching highlight to love. It's, it's, uh, I love watching all the cool edits and things like that. So I, I love, I go back and watch more. What was, what was the one moment when you go back and you watch it live where you're like, holy shit. I can't believe that worked. Um, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

a little bit more stunned that it doesn't. Then when it does, the fourth and eight was sick. It was a sick play to Rome. Obviously how it happened and things that have come from it and all of that, the cool pictures and things like that that I've seen. But I've done a couple of those throughout my time and careers career at different places. So yeah, a little bit more surprised when it doesn't work. Then when it does, the DJ more touched on too was like the perfectly drawn up

play throughout. That was really, really, that was one of my favorite moments of my career.

“Versa rival, OT. I mean, all of the above, I think they were in cover zero from what I remember.”

And DJ was one on one with 25 and 25 picked me off the game before and all these different things. So it was a good moment. It's a fun moment. Yeah, I know you probably know this, but just like so I was at

the both the playoff games and the belief in the crowd like never really wavered. It was crazy

hey, stop in a score, stop in a score, get one and go from there and they missed the kick and it was like,

“oh, okay, something's happening here. And it just, I think that's a lot of credit to you”

and Coach Johnson where it's like that belief of never out of it, not the doom and gloom,

it's special. It was a special crowd to be at. Yeah, no, it was, I mean, both the playoff games were some of the best games I've been a part of on the field. And then obviously, you know, the crowd wise. I mean, the national anthem of the second game, first Iran, it was a breathtaking, I mean, from the atmosphere, the cold, like it's Chicago weather, it's snowing, it's the legend, I forgot his name, but Jim Cornelson. Yes, yes, yes, him singing it and it was like a scene out of a movie

and then obviously the game was crazy and, you know, we end up losing and, you know, whatever, but it was those two playoff games were sick for me, it were really cool and I really cool experience just because Chicago hasn't been there in a while and to have that experience but also to

“be able to feed off that experience and want to get back and want to, you know, every day,”

you know, trying to get back and think about it every day and, you know, it's fun, it's exciting and, you know, there's a lot more coming. Did you, I know, I know, the Rams game obviously, you know, we lose and it doesn't go well, but the cold comment touched on, I, I basically passed out in the crowd, it was Eddie and I were, I took Eddie and like we were, we just were like, yeah, we're going to win the Super Bowl, like this is just what's going to happen because like

everything's going away, but in that play was there, you're going backwards, you actually look like to a perfect tie and you look like how I play in Madden. When I play Madden, I just float, I just float backwards constantly and college football the same like I played dugs, we do our streams, I just float float float was there, like what was going through your head when you're going backwards and you're like, ah, this could be a problem, like I got to figure something out and go

forward at some point. Yeah, when I realized that I was running backwards, I also realized that I was going farther from Madden's home. I needed to find a way to gain some space because they end up, you know, creating like a little a little cave for me and I just actually went back and watched some of the game, not too long ago and just wondering if I could, if I could have did something else instead of doing that, that crazy thing, running backwards and all of that. So

but in the moment, I mean, I was thinking, let's find a way to just get this ball up into the back at end zone for coal and let my six, six tight end go make a play on the ball. So, I mean, I don't think

much. I always go off like the Steph Curry people are asking about the crazy shots or the crazy

this and that or, you know, when he turns around and you know, all of these, all these different things

“that he does, he's not thinking. It's a blank sheet and you know, it's kind of how I play and I think”

that's kudos to believe trust and myself and also my teammates that, you know, I'm able to go out there play with a blank sheet up top and you know, be able to create, you know, from whatever from all the hard work, from all the muscle memory things like that. Yeah, during the week in those December games and January games, be honest, when you look at the weather forecast for Sunday and you see that we're getting down to like the negative area. We're with like the wind and wind

chills dipping down to like minus 20. Are you hoping that it gets better or are you like this is awesome bear weather? Well, I love it. I love playing the cold. I actually love the cold more than any other weather because I just my temperature, I run hot and so being able to play in the cold, you know, you throw in a few, you throw in a layer too and you go out there and play and watch

your playing your warm and so whenever it's cold, I always tend to, I feel that I always tend to

play better when it's cold and I get better at the end of the year and so that's always been my mindset and and so growing up, growing up in DC, we got some cold games, got some snow games and things like that when I was younger and like I said, it always felt like I played better towards the end of the year. So yeah, let's keep that going on. Yeah, so I actually, last time we were in DC, I told my good friend Jim Daniels that if they want a super bowl, he could have

my car, my old Camino and I was just wondering what you would want from Big Cat if you want a Super Bowl here in Chicago. You own my Range Rover? No, no, no, I don't, I don't want anything, other than just a, I mean, just, I mean, burn a city down. Okay, bring out everybody, have a good time.

well, I will actually give you my Range Rover as well. It'll only be like a year and a half left

on the lease, but you can definitely have it. And I sometimes forget to call in the payments, so that we'll figure that part out as well. But yeah, you could have my Range Rover for sure. Caleb Williams gets his Range Rover repossessed. He's going to be ahead of him. It's actually, it was, it was his blogger and it's all the people that say that are liars. Yeah, I agree. So when you're watching back a game, are there maybe some announcers that you're like, this guy's just getting a hard time? Because that happens a lot when

we're watching him. We're like, why are they going after him like this? Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Not going to say any names on here, but there are times where I go back and I listen and it's like, I mean, I just watch their drive, or I don't even have to watch it. I just remember what their drive was, and they didn't, you know, didn't complete a pass or didn't, whatever. And so, yeah, there's reporters and announcers or whatever you want to call them that I remember. And

sometimes I shake their hand a little bit harder when I see him in person. But yeah,

I definitely always take notes and mental notes and screenshots and things like that.

I love it. It is honest. Like, you're right. Like, there's a lot of people like, oh, I don't listen any of the noise. Like, he got it. You can't let it consume you,

“but you have to, you hear it. You hear the negativity, but you got to just use it to fuel you.”

Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I got a very important question for you. And it's a question that we recently just became aware of on this show. But we're trying to ask as many people as possible. It's a tough one. If somebody broke into your house in the middle of the night, and they held you down and tickled you for five minutes. And tickled it. Well, they tried to

tickle you and then left. Would you call the cops? Yes. Well, no, they didn't do anything else.

They left. They didn't touch anything. They just tried to tickle you for five minutes. Is it tickled you down? tickled you left. You would call the cops and say, hey, I just got tickled. Is it a hot girl or is it a man? Yeah. That's what we were after this hypothetical. We were at.

“We were asked that is what we asked that as well. Because also you have to think about the ramifications”

of calling the police and then there's a police report that Adam Shefter's reporting on the next day. Caleb Williams calls the police because of a tickle. Yeah. Kail Williams was tickled. Per myself and Rhapsody. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully I can find a way to, you know, use this Chicago police and it's not that out there, you know, supremely public like that. Yeah. He's put a bouncy on. Let's do this off the boat's voice. Yeah. I mean, it's a tough hypothetical. We've been

struggling with it. We did a radio show and someone called in with that. And we've just like, what did we go with? We said no. I don't think you can call the police. Yeah. I can't have that. I can't have that police report following me around. I've got a reputation uphold that you don't like me. Take it or that what's what's that you. It's what's the revenue that I can handle myself. You know, like, I'm strong and keeps all the emotions. Yeah,

we don't want to, I don't want to show weakness in the press, Caleb. Understood. What was your

“dog? Super do what if someone came in and tried to tickle you? Would he hopefully stop him?”

Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm going to get to the cell. See? This is part of the police report. You're dog. Did nothing. You don't want that on your dog's name? Oh, no, no. I got a few other dogs, so that they may not allow somebody to get even close to my bedroom. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. Big dogs. I got a question for you. There's a weird one because it's you have you invested in a company, a fruit company, which you got to explain to me because I'm right now trying to eat 100 cheeseburgers in summer.

Not exactly the healthiest. Yeah. The opposite of the healthy, but listen, we all have goals. You're going completion percentage. I'm going cheeseburgers. We all, we all get fueled by different things, but your company fruit is I need to maybe eat some more fruit. So what's going on with that? Some of the best fruit I've ever had to be honest with you. And this is not me being biased. I tried it. I tried it. And I was like, these are the best blueberries that I've ever had. And then I was like,

let's find a way to be a part of this. It's something that fits me in my daily life. It's something

in a couple of days. No way. Which is where they're, you know, one of their main farms is.

“And I'm going to go check it out. I don't know if you all remember the old cranberry commercials”

where they're in the field. And so I picture myself like that right now. I'm in a couple of days. Just been in the field of a bunch of blueberries. And seeing everything works. You know, everything, how they make the blueberries so damn good. And so I'm excited. I know everybody else is excited to be a part of it. And yeah, it's a dream partnership. Like I said, it fits me in my daily life, football, wellness, the whole thing. And like I said, they've been, they've been awesome partners.

And so it's my first time ever going to a blueberry farm. It's, I don't know too many people that have been a part of a blueberry farm. I've heard of all of trees and, and all these other

different, you know, grapes and things like that, vineyards, whatever, but I've never heard blueberry.

So I'm excited. Yeah. All right. I'm going to, I'm in because I do need to like start 100 Gs. I got all my teammates on it. I got all my teammates on it. They're, it's, they're actually the best blueberries. And that's it. Like I said, it's not me being by it. It's, they're, they're insane. It's the first one. There's nothing worse than a bad blueberry. Yeah. When you get a good one, there's nothing worse than a mushy blueberry. Yep. I haven't one mushy, mushy blueberry from

it. They're like, they're like, this large, got to get the jumboes, the jumboes of best. I think

“and they have a crunch to them when you bite into them, which is, man, that's what you want.”

I feel like from a blueberry. Yeah. You get the crunch in the pop. You should pick some while you're down there. And then you could do like, you know, these were picked by Caleb. And then those become like the collector's items. Yeah. Sounds like something I'll waste a lot of money on an auction. Yeah. Yeah. Like blueberries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Caleb Williams picked these blueberries. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how long the last. But yeah. How many, how many would you say you

eat in a day? If you, if you had unlimited supply, good blueberries? I mean, I eat probably a a pack of day. Oh, they're in a season of this. I got to, what's that like 20, 30 blueberries? Probably probably probably around there. Yeah, it's a good amount. That's a good amount.

And the problem is, you can't get good blueberries outside of blueberry season, at least my experience.

So I'm eager to try these ones. I like a lot of products from Peru. Yeah. Caleb, can I ask the lamus question ever? And I know that I'm going to look like a fucking idiot. And I'm actually like, I'm mad at myself for asking this question because a lot of athletes, like famous people, they have someone else run their social media. When you heart, when you heart my message is on, on, on DMs, is that you? That's all me. All right, thank God. Okay. I mean, all my messages.

Page for now. Okay. Well, see you all along that last. But I do run my page for now. Okay. All right, good. Because like I mean, all the messages are literally just like Instagram stories being like the goat, QB1, this guy's the best. My dog's page. I do not run that. Okay. Okay. You're dog does that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but I, I, I run my own page. Yeah. Okay. Good. All right. That was, again,

sorry. That was a lame question. I feel like a fucking loser for asking it. But you never know when

you're talking, who you're talking to. Yeah. Yeah. You never know. There's a bunch of people that don't run their own page. And so I'm, I'm, I'm one of those guys that, that does. I kind of figured did because you do slide shows during the season. And there was one slide, there was one that you did that it was just a shot of me in the gambling cave looking like I was like in pain, which happens all the time because it's basically living and dying with every game. So I was like,

“I think he might run it himself. I run it. I run it up. The memes, I mean, my whole page is, you know,”

fun stuff and memes and, and things that are connected to my life. And so I got a bunch of fun memes about, about bears and, you know, coaching, players and teammates and all these different things. So, um, not, yeah. I end up getting all, and a bunch of people send me a bunch of, you know, funny stuff that, you know, that end up just screenshot and the saving. I love it. I love it. All right. So, uh, EA sports, like I said, the MVP plus members, uh, you get more access, become an MVP

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play our college football game coming out. I'm going to be streaming it. I try to win a national

“title. My defensive coordinator, Zach, who's in the booth, who you met, uh, and actually talk,”

talk to you at the man event, which was awesome. Zach, you can end us with with your last question. How do you indicate? I mean, I'm unbelievable. It's good to hear him. Thank you for your time today. Uh, quick question. Uh, we do see outside looking in. They are a big fan of music. They love music. And I was just kind of wondering if you could give us a sneak peek into that, that game day playlist. A couple of artists that are mainstays that are getting you pumped up for the game. We're sure.

I'm more of a pump down kind of guy, because that would be mentally even killed. And so I'm more of like a Drake, uh, breakfast, John Legend, Adele Bob Marley. Um, and then every once in a while,

like when I'm heading into the game, about three hours before, three, four hours before. Um,

I'll probably turn on some some, you know, some chief keys, some more upbeat Drake and things like that. But, uh, more of the slow vibe, more of, uh, you know, a chill vibe, uh, going, you know, right before,

“right before I walk out though, right before the last time we walk out where we do the national anthem,”

all of that, and they do the names and stuff. I listen to John Legend, ordinary people still for the past, like, six, seven years. Okay. I'm going to start doing that. I'm going to jump down. Was there, was there a moment when you, when you found out that Drake's album was going to be called Ice Man that you were like, you see, is that, is that going to be about me? Uh, I wasn't think he was going to be about me, but I was, I was wondering, uh, because I mean, I've been to

his house in a bunch of, you know, a bunch of my friends or know him and our friends with him or whatever.

And so I was wondering if, if he was going to say anything about Chicago or not. So didn't end up happening. That's all good. You know, no, no, and it no anything towards it. But it wasn't thought, uh, just because it was Ice Man and I'm at the top. The album was coming out. And obviously we were having a whole Ice Man thing towards end of the year, um, that everybody was talking about. So, um, yeah. It's a great nickname, uh, Caleb. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it,

man. Congrats on the Madden Cover. Cannot wait to watch you play football this fall. And, uh, hopefully sometime you can come by the office. We'd love to have you. Yeah, absolutely appreciate all of it. See you all soon. Caleb was brought to you by Pepsi and Pepsi Zero Sugar. I got it right here. The best tasting zero sugar cola. It's preferred by nearly two thirds of Americans in a nationwide blind taste test. We want to crack one open right here. That sounds delicious and have a little sip.

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Who is now the voice of the new college football game, which you can buy right now. EA Sports gives MVP plus members more access, more rewards, more football. If you do it right now, before July 1st, for 150 bucks, you get to Lux editions of Madden NFL 27 and College Football

“27, normally 200 bucks. It's the only way to play college football 27th over the 4th of July”

weekend since members get seven days early. So Joe, this is a big deal. Is it not like this is the this is an iconic game. We all love it. And now you're the voice that we are going to listen to when we're playing the game. Yeah, to say I'm excited is an understatement, trust me. And I'm glad to be on here because guys, I went after this because it was the only way that I feel like I could get my man card back, which you guys took for my horrendous March Madness take. Yeah,

this was this was whole deal is like I just had to do something to appease PMT, right? And like this

I'd love the game forever. I played it, you know, when I was growing up and then played it when I was playing. In fact, real real quick story. I was just a walk on, I don't know if you guys know that or not, but I was a walk on. And so they just threw you a number at that point. So I was

number 14. And I was always number 12 growing up. My brother wore 12. I wore 12. That's the number

that we always wore. And my freshman going into sophomore year, it looked like I was potentially

“going to be the starting quarterback. And they were like, all right, like what number do you want?”

Do you want to go to 12? And I was like, no, the college football game is going to have number 14 starting for Colorado. So I'm going to stay with number 14. Yeah. And that's the that's the whole reason why I wore the number was because of this game. Yeah, square, are you are you a character that you can unlock? Like you can go back and play with Joe Klatt? I don't think so. I've actually trying to buy an old console and like an old PlayStation to get the old games so that my voice

can play that version, the version that I was a player in. That's awesome. Yeah, what was it like was a process like doing the doing all the voiceovers? How long does that take you? Dude, it was it was long. And my first thought was when I started interviewing with them and talking about this is I was like, all right, guys, how much of this is going to be AI? You know, I just like assumed

“that that's the direction we were headed and they were like, oh, none of it. And I thought to myself,”

really, and they said, yeah, you know, we wanted to be genuine. We wanted to be your lines from, you know, what you would call on that play versus some, you know, AI generation. And so I did close to close to 90 hours, not quite 90 hours of recording with the A since probably mid-December on until about a month ago. Maybe about a month ago. And it was like thousands of lines, guys.

Maybe 354,000 lines. And the process, they were amazing to work with. These people

are so buttoned up. They know what they're doing. They came in and set up a little bit of a sound booth in my house. And then two or three times a week at 6 a.m., I would wake up and I would get on a zoom with the producer and then they would send me a script, but it's not really a script. It's more just situations. So I could be like, okay, today we're going to do post-run plays. And it'd be like, all right, this is the first run of the game. It goes for less than six yards.

And the running back is an 85 plus guy. And it's late in the season. And he has 1,000 yards already. And so I'm like, okay, they need to set up the run. This is the guy that they're going to do a width. And so on and so forth. And then we do that just thousands of times. You know, so we would set up those situations. It was, it was very, it was harder than I thought it was going to be. Yeah. It was, it was a lot harder than I thought it was going to be.

I would imagine. And then do you, are you, are you, are you going to do updates at all during the season? Is there, how does that work? Yeah, there's, yeah, there's, so they do, they call them patches, you know, so like there's patches every 30 or 45 days. I know that there's a 30 day patch when we've

already done some of those. So there was the first like drop dead, hey, the book, the, they call it

“the book or, or whatever I can't remember what they call it, but like the final stage. And then”

everything needs to go to market. And then there's a 30 day patch. And then we'll do some more recording during the course of the fall and probably get some updates that are more seasons specific. Yeah. For what, what's going to happen this year? So was there an update in this process where it was like at one point you had to do a line being like, and yeah, the judge let Britain source be play. And then now you're like, and now Britain source became play. And now the NFL says,

hey, yeah, what do you think about the situation? I mean, it's crazy. Oh man, it's, it's pretty wild. You know, I, I wasn't able to do a full episode of my show on this topic because of the world cup, like Fox is just at capacity from a studio standpoint and a production studio standpoint. So I've done all of my summer episodes as pre-recorded and like evergreen episodes that are going to be released. And so I just released a little bit of a social media take. Here's the deal,

guys. I thought that the entire thing was a disaster for college football, college football, intercollegiate athletics, a total disaster. Because if we're going to have local judges, you know, give favorable rulings to the teams that are near them, then then what are we doing? Like this is not, there are no rules. You can do whatever you want. This is one of the most long standing, unwritten and written rules in sports. It goes back to Shulis, Jo Jackson, and Pete Rose,

and on my, like, and so on, even the MBA dealt with this. And, and the fact that this was all the

If we weren't going to have some sort of standard and be able to enforce rules, then then,

“what are we doing? And I think this is probably the correct outcome. I don't, I don't think he should play.”

Yeah, do you think that this was a uniquely Lubbock Texas situation in terms of how the how the school kind of rallied around him? I don't know if you saw that like 25 minute long video that they put out. That was really confusing. But do you think that they're the only school that would do that? Or maybe just a handful of schools that would have rallied around like that? Let's, I think everybody would love to get virtuous when it's not them. And they're,

they're the ones pointing the finger. But if, if we're honest with ourselves and college football, everybody is irrational when it comes to themselves and everybody in college football operates on their own behalf. And what we have seen now granted, it hasn't been in a case involving gambling. But what we've seen over the course of the last, you know, five, 10 years, is that every single time a school wants a specific rule bent or broken, or they don't feel like it's right for them,

they sued. Their attorney general gets involved. We've seen it all over with eligibility cases.

“And so to say that this was uniquely Lubbock, I think, would be false. I think this is uniquely”

college football. And I think almost, maybe, maybe this is wrong, but I think most programs would

have acted similarly to what Texas Tech. And then the blowback is always everybody else pointing

like, we would never do that. You know, like, oh, that's over the wine. It's like that's so college football. Yeah. It's just, it did feel like we were kind of all losing our mind for a moment there, because we were talking about it. Like, there had been, we get it. Like, there is, when you, when you have a college football town and you have a judge, you might be sympathetic, you, you might be able to bend the rules here. But there actually had been moments like the

Bediaco for, for Alabama, where the judges in the Intel schools, he's like, no, this is crazy. This guy was a pro. He can't play anymore. Like, there was at least some guardrails and people adults have room being like, hey, this is too much. So then when this happened, everyone was like,

wait a second. How is this possible? Like, we thought there was at least one last stop in this

thing where someone would stand up and be like, guys, it's, this can't happen. And then we lost it

“for a minute. And, and to be honest, I think that this was, in hindsight, we might be looking back”

on this in two, three, four, five years and think to ourselves, this was the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of pushing federal legislation. And we saw how quickly then that bill that was introduced into the Senate now is going to go to the Senate floor, because without anti-trust exemption status, no enforcement entity would be able to enforce their own rules, right? Whether the NCAA or the college sports commission, whatever entity we all decide is going to enforce the

rules and college football, they have zero teeth without anti-trust protection. I personally believe that we need to collectively bargain with players. That's my personal belief. I know there's a lot of people within the sport that don't want that, because they don't want the employee status that comes with that territory. But I will tell you that without the ability to enforce rules, then this is a house of cards. Yeah, I agree. I think that without the, without a CBA in place, you're going

to find yourself just back in court repeatedly. And there's going to be constant legal challenges, nothing is ever going to feel like it's stable unless you have a CBA in place. And the people that drew up the laws, I do think that it's a good step, and it was kind of refreshing to see Congress, like it's bipartisan. So it was not left to write, they're just trying to make college football better.

But I do think that if you, if you lack a CBA, that's ultimately not going to solve any problem.

It's going to be window dressing. I, well, I totally agree. And by the way, and this might be opening up Pandora's box, guys. But we are, what I see in the future, if I'm just putting on my hand thinking, where does all this pointed right now? Let's take, for example, this idea of five years to play, right? And you just get five years to play. And I actually like that a lot. Well, that would mean at least I would hope that a school could sign a player to a five-year

contract coming out of high school. Well, let's say he gets drafted within that five-year contract. Wouldn't it become just like European soccer where the NFL's got to pay a transfer for a few of that school in order to get the rights to that player? Yeah. Yep. Like that's not that far-fetched. And candidly, that's probably an avenue that college football should go down so that they can recoup some of that benefit that they're giving straight to the NFL. The NFL is the only

organization on the planet that just gets ready made free talent. Just here you go, right on a platter for you and we'll have a draft and it'll be great. Yeah. Now in terms of stuff that's going

Can we start with maybe the two teams that that played in the championship last year? So both teams have done really, really well at using the the the transfer portal for quarterbacks. Are they are they both going to be back to a point where they have quarterbacks that are capable

“to get in their teams back to the championship? Yeah, I think there are seven teams maybe eight”

that have a real legitimate shot to win the national championship. Maybe more and hopefully more. But Indiana and Miami are definitely two of those teams. Joshua Hoover is a perfect fit for Indiana. He's a perfect fit for Kurt Signetti. Last year, no one threw more RPO passes, Rumpass option passes than Fernanda Mendoza. They ran the ball great at Indiana. He saw that in the Rose Bowl against Alabama and then they had the RPO off of that and he excelled in that mode.

Well, the guy who threw the second most RPO's and all of college football last year was Joshua

Hoover from TCU. So he's a guy that skill set wise. I think translates. I think he will be able to cut down on the interceptions with a better defense, with a better run game. So I think Indiana is going to be right back there. They got really good players on that team, both sides of the ball. And I think Miami is easily one of the best teams in the country. I know they're replacing a ton of NFL talent upfront on the line of skirmish. But if you just looked at their defensive line,

you know that they're replacing all those defensive linemen with five guys that were former five star players. So like they probably are going to be really good. And I think Darian Benz is going to be fantastic. And one of our cover guys for E.A. Malachi Tony, he's one of my favorite players in the entire sport. So what are your eight teams that you have right now in late June that could win the national title? Okay. So in no particular order, I would say Oregon. Just out of the

big 10 Oregon, Indiana and Ohio State. I think you've got Texas and Georgia out of the SEC. You've got

Notre Dame is going to be fantastic. You've got Miami. I think Miami is going to be incredible.

And then the other team that I would throw in there is LSU. Yeah. I have this hunch that we're going to turn on the TV. And we're going to watch LSU play Clemson. And we're going to be like, oh dang, that is a $40 million roster. Like that's one of the best rosters in the entire sport.

“And Sam Levits got all the experience you need to go win at the top level. Lane is a really”

good coach. You'll fix them offensively. You know, Levit will play well in that system because it's a quarterback friendly system. So those would be my seven eight teams, at least right now. But there's some teams right on the outside looking in that I think could make some waves as well. It's also, so we actually were lucky enough to spend a couple of days down at LSU with Lane. And like we were in the building for a full day and hanging out like it's it's crazy how

quickly Lane like makes a program Lane. You know what I mean? It's not it really what it really felt like his he had already kind of sunk his teeth in and been like, this is my operation would

forget what the last guy is because I never went down there when Brian Kelly was there. But I'd

have to imagine it was pretty uptight and Brian Kelly runs. It was a lot more laid back. It was a lot more confident of like easy confidence of like, hey, we know what we're going to do and we're just going to do it. And I think that that's that's something that he can he can have that affect right away. Like it might not take like a few years. It might just be boom. They're ready to go. And well, and he's done it. Yeah, everyone, I hear a lot of people in like my position

start talking about like, well, I don't know if all these transfers are going to jail. It's like, what do you think he's done the last two or three years? This is exactly what he's done at Ole Miss. Plus, everybody has transfers. So I think that the baseline that everybody else is starting from, there's not a margin to make up if you've got a roster full of guys that are playing for the first time together. And he's proven that he's got systems that are simple enough and effective enough

that the guys can learn them and that they can play at a high level right away. Yeah, I'm curious when you think about Alabama because I was looking at their schedule and until they get to Georgia on October 10th, they start out with East Carolina, Kentucky, Florida State, South Carolina, and Mississippi State. Going into that game against Georgia, do you expect them to be undefeated?

“And if not, how hot is that secret going to be? I do, but I think that they're going to be in a real”

close one in there. You know, I know this sounds crazy, but Will Stein's a really good coach and he's built up Kentucky this this offseason. Yeah, we're actually massive fans of him. We love him. Because yes, well, he likes us. He listens to us. So we immediately like, dude, we'll defend you everywhere. Dark horse coach in the year can't it? Yeah. It's not easy for us. Yeah. So Will, Will and I go way back. So he he was a backup for Teddy Bridgewater at Louisville. If you'll remember,

is a guy named Sean Watson. Sean Watson was my offensive coordinator. So I know exactly how Will was taught. We talk about it a lot. I've been a big fan of his ever since he was shoot a quality control guy at Louisville. And then he was a kind of a low level staffer at Texas. So I've been following him for a long time.

“And I think he's going to do a heck of a job at Kentucky. I really do. But back to the Alabama”

question, then they also have to face Lenore sellers. You know, like, okay, like, that's that's not a a gamey plus. And Bama fans hate it when I bring this up. Absolutely hate it. But I would just say the the number one element of a quality team that can go really far in college football now, and in the modern game, is an experience quarterback. And when you try somebody out that has no

starts, you better have an incredible team around them. Now, I know Bama fans would tell you that their

defense is going to be outstanding, but they couldn't run the football at all last year at all. And if that doesn't change, and you've got a brand new quarterback in there, I know Ty Simpson was basically a brand new quarterback. But look how he struggled when they couldn't run the football, and then couldn't protect him. So, you know, I guess to answer your question,

“I think they'll be undefeated. I think they're going to have to win a really tight ball game in”

order to be undefeated when they face Georgia. And I do think that the that Kailon seed is going to be pretty hot. I was shocked. It's not the right word. I was surprised that he got that extension. I was surprised. I didn't think it was necessarily, well, I mean, they can do whatever they want to do, but when he got that extension, I was like, well, that's interesting. Yeah, I would agree with that. And if you're looking like big picture stuff here, who would be the top five Heisman guys in your

mind right now? Oh, man, a lot of good quarterbacks, a lot of good quarterbacks. I like Dante more a lot, guys, and that Oregon team has loaded lots of experience. I think he's going to have a great shot. I think Jeremiah Smith is going to have a great shot, although he's going to share share things with Julian Sand. You've got art to Texas, watch out for Cam Coleman at Texas. I'd be interested in what Gunner Stockton is able to do, but I have a real question mark about

“who he's throwing to at Georgia. And then Malachi Tony guys, like I think Malachi Tony is going to”

like the world on fire. I think he could have a huge year. I want to throw another name, CJ Carr,

like I think that there's always something about Notre Dame that will get you because we've

joked about it on this show. The Heisman is the one award where it is, it's a little bit of a joke because of how many guys get to vote and women get to vote on their award. And there's just no way all the voters are watching every game. So when you talk about a note like Notre Dame, they go on a nice run and their quarterback is really good. Like those are the story lines. It's more storyline than then on field production, sometimes with the Heisman. And two things that would

back your point up. Number one, their schedule is cake. Absolutely cake. Right. They've got Miami and BYU basically. We don't sleep on my badgers week one at Lambo. You can sleep on that. And then also, this this team is going to transform a little bit. They're they're not going to be just a run oriented. They'll run the ball well because they're offensive lines great. But they lose those two backs, price and love. And now it's going to be a little bit more of a throw oriented team. And they've

got really good players on the outside. It isn't the Quincy Porter kit is the one that transfer in from Ohio State. Watch out for Quincy Porter Irish fans because I think he could have a big year. But to your point, car, car should be the focal point of a team that's likely going to be undefeated. I think they have the highest over under of anybody in college football because of that schedule. Yeah, 11 and a half. I think it's 11 and a half. It would make sense. I mean, that is the that is

always the thing with Notre Dame is that the schedule, I mean, last year, they played those two games early

on this season. They lost them. And it's like you don't have the ability to make it up. So yeah, it would be interesting. I mean, I do think they should have been in the playoff last year. But that's the ACC could get their tie. Yeah, correct. Like what are we doing? That would be an intro to the title of Miami's not like among guys. Yeah, what do you do you think what number do you think we're going to end up at for the playoff?

Um, we, I do think we'll eventually land on 24 24. So many teams. So many teams. It is it is, um, that's too mad. I mean, we could we could do a whole 30 minutes just on this on this topic. Yeah. I don't disagree that it's too many. But I also

In, in particular, in light of the NIO era and space. So for instance, like, if you only have 12, we're going to get to a point where at least half of every major conference

feels like they just don't have access. Right. Well, what makes them invest $25 million a year in

their roster? Like that, you know, like they have no ROI on that. They can't generate any, any juice. I did a show on this talking about, you know, this, this playoff model. And I would just say that right now with, with the way teams are having to invest to build their roster and, and the, the the minimal access that everyone gets to the playoff or the postseason. And it's not even just the postseason. It's meaningful postseason because we've middleed out the middle class of college football.

You can no longer go nine and three. Go to the citrus bowl and say, that was a really good year.

“Right. Every bit of success and meaning for success is now tied to just, are you in the playoff or”

are you not? So like there is downstream effects to that. Like if, if you were to put a 2014 model

all the way back to 2014, you would have seen that 81 teams would have made at least one appearance.

Well, at least in, in that regard, you would have almost every single power 14 and, and many others that feel engaged and they can recruit, they can fundraise, they can sell, you know, season tickets. Now, is it the, the best possible model? I don't know. And the other part of this is whatever gets them more on campus. If this model 2014 model gets them to play more games on campus than the playoff, then I would, I would be for it. That's a fair point. I also think that like going into the

conferences and, and maybe, maybe making it more like the NFL in terms of divisions and then you like, hey, if you win your division, you get an automatic. So it's like, hey, we have a path going into the season. We know exactly what we have to do. We have to beat the three or four teams in our

“region and then we got to see the table. I think that also would help get people a little bit more”

engaged with it as well. So I'm a proponent of automatic qualifiers and, and there are a lot of

people that aren't and they just want the selection based model that we have currently. But I'm, I'm with you. I think that we should have a number for every conference that it's like, okay, you know, if you're in the top four and the SEC or the big ten, it's like, boom, you're at, yeah, you know, well, then that makes no member pretty interesting because there's eight or nine teams within a game of that four spotter fist spot, whatever it is. And I think that's, that's interesting.

The other part of that, that you're, you're referencing, if we continue to just have 12 with the selection based inclusion, we're going to haul out the non-conference, which we're already seeing. There's like no good non-conference games. There's a couple of monsters, no doubt. But there's no depth through the non-conference schedule whatsoever. What I would love to see as the SEC moves to nine

“games now within conference and everybody else is playing nine games in conference. I would love”

to see an NFL-style scheduling model of the non-conference. Yeah. You get put in a pod based on where you finished the previous year. And then we're just going to do a lottery in the spring and say, okay, who's playing who next year? Yeah. You know, we would get, we would get 30 more games that would be highly valuable. And that's another way to generate revenue. Let's put it this way. If the NFL is taking their sponge, their schedule is a sponge. They are squeezing it right now every which

direction to get every drop of value out of that sponge. Meanwhile, if the sponge is a schedule in college football, it's just sitting in the bottom of a pool and we're all staring at it. Yeah. Or like, oh, that's cool down there. Look at that sponge. And we're not squeezing it at all. Mm-hmm. So what I'm hearing is maybe more international games in conference. Maybe play the national title game. Yeah, in a Madrid.

You know what? If they told me that it was in Madrid, but it was on January 1st, I would take it. Because this is January 24th, the national championship game needs to change as well. Yeah, yeah, there'll be fair companies. Can I give you one more dark horse for Heisman? One guy. I love it. I might be crazy because I've, I've probably talked as much shit about this guy as, as anybody. Nico. What about Nico? Dark. Mm-hmm. Guys,

this is, this is like, where do you get into the hot-take territory? Yeah. I like UCLA. Like, I like Bob Chesney a lot. He's bringing his whole staff. He's bringing a bunch of players just like Kurt Signetti did. And if you would have told me before Kurt Signetti was at Indiana, like, oh, yeah, this is going to work and they're going to go to the playoff next year. We all would have been like, no way. It's Indiana. Well, we're getting the same reaction now

with UCLA. Of like, no way. It's UCLA and Granite. Their schedule is difficult, but they've got a really experienced talent to quarterback. And now a real-head coach that's

than people think. And I think Nico Eomaliava is the type of guy the way that he runs, the way that he throws, and the potential for big upsets that could generate some real buzz. I like that one a lot. Yeah. Yeah. That is a good Dark Horse. Yeah. Um, so back to the game, your kids, or they're going to play the game, or they a little upset to be out now here, dad all the time, because that's no. They're the only people who are like, hey, you can't follow

us everywhere. Now you're just, you're talking to us every single time we try to relax and play a video game. So while I love the game, I am not good at the game. Right. Which I just, like,

I've never been that good at video games. So they beat me pretty regularly. I've got three boys,

14, 12 and 9. They are fired up. Um, I can tell you one of the things that I'm most excited about is to get to share this with them. And just like, this is a game that I loved, and now it's like become a generational iconic brand. And, and I'm going to get to play with them. And what they're most excited for, because they would hear me do some of these lines. And, and I'll get a little snarky on the game, which is fun. Like, if you do something that I don't like in one of those situations,

I'll, I'll tell you. And so my, my, my boys are so looking forward to me ripping on me. Yeah, I'm not playing the game. And I do something dumb. And then I'm the one saying like, well,

“that's stupid. You know, so, uh, that's what they're fired up for. I love it. I love it. I'm so excited”

to play the game. I, I mean, listen, I just finally won a national title in the last game,

uh, because I had to do that before we got the new game. So I'll be shopping. We'll be streaming and playing, uh, and again, you guys can, and anyone who's listening right now before, uh, July 1, if you, if you go right now, you can buy it. And, uh, you can get the game seven days early. So you can do it with the MVP plus members, more access, more rewards, and more football. Joel, I'm excited for college football. Be back. Uh, why, like, this is the point in summer where I don't wish

summer away. But I every now and then, we'll just like be sitting. And I'll just say, I can't wait for college football. Oh, there's thinking in my head. And it's like, it maybe it's like, you know, a little bit of a cooler day. And it's like, oh, man, this feels like this could be a September afternoon. But, uh, so we're excited for the game. We're excited for college football. I got one last question. It's the rowback question, RHO, BACK dot com, promo code take 20% off

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Zack, you made it. Zack, were you late, Zack? I, I was a couple of minutes late to say anything. What do you think about that? So in terms of, uh, in terms of like teammates stuff? Hey, man, if, if you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, if you're on time, you're late, and if you're late, you're forgotten. Oh, what would Coach Bellachek say about this, Zack? Yeah, we had, we, yeah, we interviewed Coach Bellachek a month and a half ago, and he,

we brought up this Zack being late every now and then sleeping in. To give him a couple of options of ways to solve it, I don't know that's completely sunk in. Have you thought about his advice to you this morning? What are, yeah, what are the options? What are we doing? Well, he said maybe get more alarm clocks and then Zack was like, yeah, I have, I have three. And then Bellachek was like, maybe see a doctor. Yeah, I don't think that you've seen a doctor yet.

“I, I think you should probably see a doctor. I, my advice would just be, get out of bed.”

Yeah, it's good advice. That's really good advice. That's, you know, that is, that is strong advice, you sir. You don't sound great. Is that how, like, you just woke up a second ago? How late were you up last night? I, uh, I went to bed when we got it when we left. So like, what was like 11 30? You went straight to bed at 11 30. Maybe, maybe 20 minutes. Is that in the bag? Did you wake up at 3 a.m. And smoke a pack? Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm going to defend Zack a

little bit right here. He did, uh, do wake up partial with me yesterday. So the day was a wake up at 5 30 and we worked all the way to 11 p.m. That's a long day. Now, not in defensive Zack. I was here more than enough time. And I also probably got up three hours before you because my kids woke me up at 6 a.m. But still, that was a long day you put in the yesterday's act. Not, not even close to a region be late today. Okay. Yeah, it's a, you have a question for me. Are you feeling okay? You sound like

your sick. Uh, I got like a throat. I'm not, not sick, though. Okay. But just a throat thing. Yeah,

“I think it's just like a sore throat. Yeah. Okay. All right, Zach, go ahead. A few,”

either though. Question for you all this morning. Yeah. What's going to draw how you doing this, sir? I'm good. I'm not feeling better than you. I did have a quick question for you about the game. You know, games coming out by spray excited. Do you have like a 11 team that you're looking for to get in there and rebuilding this year? Oh, yeah, man. My, my collar out of Buffalo's. Like any time that I play, I play with Colorado. So getting them to a point where we're playing playoff

it. They've always moved the game forward. So then you get the weather in Colorado. But that's

the team that I'm always looking to build up. Yeah. Yeah. You got to start with your own team. We have, you know, that's right. You have follow up, Zach. If we go, if we go a third party outside of our own teams, you have any alternate jerseys like growing up on the game that you'd switched to all the time, and maybe like take you back to like a time and place where like, oh, this was, this is a good jersey set. I like this jersey set. So hot take from me. I am the old man yelling at

the clouds when it comes to uniforms. I love the classics. Like give, give me like the Alabama uniform or the Texas on the road. Like give me the all white. So and, and this is dumb of me because the last game I ever played in college, the all whites Texas, Bench Young's Texas team knocked me out, put me in the hospital and I still love those uniforms. So I'm a classics guy. If I were

“to go and win a national championship with a classic uniform, I think it would, I think it would be”

Texas with the all whites because I just can't get the like the Vince Young with the confetti coming down out of my head. Also bring back the big mesh. Like I think of college football. I think of Colorado had it in Nebraska like the the real mesh uniform. Yes. I love that idea. Do you remember one of my favorite covers was do you remember all the way back like late 90s and it was Tommy Frazier on the cover. It was like 98 or something. He's running like yes, dude those those old like

Jason Peter Nebraska Tommy Frazier teams with the big with the big ones. You could barely see the number. You could see their pads right through their jersey. This is the big mesh. Yep, you bet. Yeah, it was a great era. Get a finger stuck in the mesh holes. Then we're so bad. I can break it right off. Bring it back. And the jerseys didn't even come down under their pants. That was awesome.

“And you had like a full back with a cowboy collar. Oh man. Oh, the best. Yeah. The face mask”

at the bar down the middle, too. Yeah. The bar down the middle, like who was, oh gosh, who was a Corey Sleson jerk. Oh, yeah. The bar down the middle, right? And then the shoulder pads were so wide like Andy Katzenmoyer that you couldn't even walk through a garage door. Yep. You know,

it's like amazing era. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Joel, thank you so much for joining us. When you're here

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which I'm just 33 year old baby, I went to the dentist again to finish. I would go in for the last few weeks getting the oral done and I had to get a crown. I had a temporary crown, I had to get the permanent one put in and I'm just such a baby at the dentist. I had the only at the dentist. Yeah, no, I know. Outside the dentist, your macho. Yeah, many people say that.

me to stop tensing up and stop tensing up and like just oh, I hate when they see that. It's like,

“no, I hate being here. They're probably being here. Like there's no worse feeling than like having”

a tense woman later in the day. Yeah, the dentist is not nobody likes the dentist. No, no, they need we should be able to get knocked out and then just we like figure out a service where you get knocked out when you go to bed at night and then they just come and take your body, do the shit. It's like lions and tigers the zoo. Just just let me wake up and like, oh my mouth hurts a little bit, but yeah, I went to the dentist. I also just we, we pugs, we pugs it up last night. Yeah, that was

to be mine. No, this is not related to that kind of related to that. We got beers after and then I just like kind of drunkenly ordered like so many clothes from acts of wedding that I have no, like that's I have a really packed. When are they getting here Saturday? What type of clothes got did you order for two days? What do you mean? Like what like shirts shorts? I love that. I thought you were like ordering like a suit or something. No, that came. I'm trying to abochromy actually

“sponsor, but I paid for it, but I good suit. But yeah, I only in things from abochrom being the past”

couple of weeks. I like that. I want some. I love that hand on it is turning into like a rent the runway girl. Like he's got a big occasion coming up. He's like, I'm just gonna get, I have to get all this stuff and then I'll decide what looks best. Well, that was yeah, that was like I was like drunk and I was like, fuck, I don't really like, I don't know what I'm going to wear. It's a good move. Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. If I'm going somewhere and I have like a package sitting in my

front door, like I know it's shirts, I'll just throw the package in my back. I had one day of like, I need to buy closed, closed for like the week of the wedding. I need to buy best men gifts, which I didn't even really know existed. And I needed to buy shoes. And I had the most efficient, like shopping hour of my entire life. Like I walked in the abochromy was in and out with the 10 within 15 minutes and I got 12 things, just like like that like that like that gone. None of them

went across the city, got the groomsman gift went across the city. No, I tried them all on. Oh, okay. Yeah. I thought you were just grabbing. No, that's crazy. No, grab shit went to the, went to the dressing room, tried them on. I'm like, these all work. Let's get out of here. Like I came back in like an hour and a half, in rush hour in Chicago, going from Wicker to Gold Coast to Lincoln Park

back to West Loop. And I have like never been more proud of myself. That's actually a good work.

That's a boss move. That's like when you, when you, when you complete something like that, you're like, I actually did it. I can do this. And then you just remind yourself of like, why shopping takes so long. It's like you're with your significant other. And they take forever. And yeah, you haven't wanted to shop. Women be chained. That's not what women from shop. And it actually works reverse too. Because sometimes like, even like my wife will be like,

Okay, let's go get your new clothes and it will take oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, she's not even shopping But she's like oh, yeah, you look goodness. You look like no like I got a black T-shirt. Yeah, I'm not gonna look good in it Just keep it simple. I also tried on one thing. I was like this fits well I'm gonna get four different colors of this thing. Yeah, and then that will count as four different. No, that's the solos I love doing that when you're just like oh, I got this one thing. We got to get we got to get some of the abrocrown me stuff

Yeah, get us hook us up. This is our producer secret What you guys know I paid for it. No, I paid for yeah. I paid for all of all this. I'm sorry All right, my firefest is puggs season is over We won undefeated in the playoffs undefeated in the playoffs two and all in the playoffs

“Finish the season. I think eight and one. So very nice season played our best game”

I think ever would you guys agree definitely we want eight to nothing against the team that was six and one So it wasn't like a bad team. We played great defense

Unfortunately the second game was rained out because it just started dumping and then the

Semifinals will be either next Wednesday when we're all gone or the Wednesday after that when we're all gone So the puggs season is over. I mean only one team usually gets to say we ended the season on a win. Yeah It's the Florida state banner. We were we're doing the Florida state Fine, yeah, we had a clean season national chain. Yeah, play really well. Pause up. Yeah, we played really well ended on a good note Clean sheet clean sheet clean sheet

played well played hard had fun Hit a dog. Yeah, Hank hit a dog nice dog. Hank the Hank don't get up Your mashing dogs just wrong where you stroking big long-dong. Yeah, it was crazy. It was like one of those games It's just like hey, we just I think we're just good. It's off ball and

Yeah, that's time. You don't swing hard. You don't have to swing hard. Let the back do the work. That's fox. Hank. Hank did not swing hard He's swing perfect and he'd dogged it up dog. But yeah, I was sad because it's like You know you're in the semifinals. You're playing good softball and they're like, okay, we're guess we're the schedule

We had three rainouts in a row in the playoffs to get us to this point and then had a fourth and after our first game

So yeah next season summer season, right? We're playing the summer Not me you aren't

“Why not because last two years. I've I think I've been to like two summer games”

So I'm I'm first sub. Okay. I'm retired from running. So yeah, I did run for a half mile yesterday I'm in the jungle. No, around my neighborhood. Oh, okay. Good. You getting chased or something Well, that goes into my firefast. Okay, I have a stalker. Oh So I don't know like who to report it to I don't know how to like Keep myself safe. I was thinking about it when I was out for a run yesterday

It's very very awkward. It's a weird situation to be in I feel yeah comfortable

I was like an interject first. Yeah, you actually have a stalker. We probably do you talk. No, I do. I do have a stalker publicly

I do a stalker. Should we talk about a publicly? Yeah, his name's Brandon. Are you? He's making me very uncomfortable. I was gonna say Mike Michael take care of. Yeah. No, I don't know if Mike can handle this one I mean Mike can probably handle anything but Brad and I you can make me uncomfortable like four times a day All the posts I guess he's now working for the commanders because it's most recent one He just said check out my website at www.commanders.com where you can buy tickets

He's like if they're not gonna sign me if they're not gonna go to trade for me with the Niners I'll just start working in their ticket sales department. Yeah It's he's coming on a little bit strong

“I believe this is what's called love bombing. Yeah, I'm getting love bombed by Brandon and I you and I just wish he would chill out like if if Brandon”

I you every now and again was like You know what I would also love to play for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think I'd be a great receiver in that offense That would make me feel better and make me want him more as opposed to now. He just kind of Bro thinks he's on the team. Who is your GM again? What's the name Adam Peters? Okay, so do you think and I actually I know the answer This is 100% yes

I I think this situation you're describing to me. I feel worse For Jayden Daniels because Brandon and I you could definitely text it him and called him being like hey Have you talked to Adam Peters yet? Yeah, like you done it right? He put in control all right like are we good? He's like he's set it up, right? He's he's got a friend that's got a great job

He's like oh my buddy you'll hook me up with a job if I need some money. Yeah. Hey, have you hey Were you able to get my name? Yeah in his ear Adam Peters knows all about Brandon Because he did work for the 49 long time. So he's got good information about him I can't imagine that he's gonna do anything to trade for him Given everything that's that's going on recently, but it does it feels a little bit stalker. It's at this point

We're now I just just chill out man. Yeah, just chill out. Please very bizarre very bizarre and I don't I don't think that this is a good idea anything that he's done now. And now I feel like I'm being stalked. Yeah It'd be funny if he just ended up like where'd be the funniest place that he could end up? Trying to think a cardinals. Yeah, cardinals would be very good. Yeah, the browns. Yeah Browns would be pretty good. Yeah, that would be good. You know what is making me do?

I'm I'm longing for Stefan Diggs the stability. I'm craving this stability and the good mental headspace of Stefan Diggs I feel like he's a good guy that we can we can get along a real good He's awesome around kids if you're a good partner to have like brings stuff on Diggs over because Brandon, you can freaking me out. Yeah Okay, Zach, finish off My so here here recently. I'm gonna be moving locations from one apartment to another

“My five faces week is that I you don't know how much stuff you have until you have to put it in boxes”

So throughout the last week I've been attempting to to box those things up and get rid of a bunch of stuff and I've now got been able to get rid of two golf polo's and a pair of shorts And I don't really know where to go from here because that That decision took like five or six hours and that was the pile I was left with we need to get Marie condo to work with Zach Do you are you familiar with her Zach? I'm not I'm not super familiar with Marie now, so she's she's a lady that does she had a show on Netflix

I think but her whole thing is like she goes through all your shit and she says that unless it sparks joy in you You have to throw it away. Yeah, so she's like in in favor of like getting rid of everything as much stuff as possible You should do a thing where you go through all your shit and you're like trying to figure out if it sparks joy or not I'm like really easy. It convincing myself that there's joy there. Yeah, I know just go straight to the whatever moment it was I get

I might need this I get or stuff you've never used before you're like there will be a time can I say something else to you Zach that

It's okay to just be a order That means a lot. I actually felt it. Yeah, like I they get as it sucked to have to move because you have more stuff to move. Yes, sure

But I can't give him away because I got a problem my only thought was like my suit neighbors are gonna see these things hopefully

It's not see these things in the elevator and like this guy is just he's got his order What's the most embarrassing thing that you you'd have that you would not want your neighbor to see? Uh I mean it is tough bringing all the like I got a couple different consoles. I would be tough to see no Zach and you're moving on space right? What happened? You're moving into more space. Yeah, more space

So I guess it will look like it's not so much game. Right. Yeah. Are you getting movers?

“I mean I'm up that's up in the air. I'm thinking about that. You have to get moved sounds like a no Zach”

You don't you have a studio apartment

It won't cost that much and it will be so much better

You don't have a car my thought process. It was like the new I get not the full docks, but if we're going to point eight to point be it's 800 feet on Google Maps Big cap brings up a good point which is if you don't have a car. How are you planning on just like walking down the sidewalk? One by one. Sounds like your stuff. I've got a dolly So like dolly you do like eight five to eight boxes. You just go down and back. Do you have time in between your leases?

Yeah, yeah, I got like 14 days in between. So I got you actually just just just literally Walk your stuff and the TV's on wheels kind of all that. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually Your TVs on wheels. You have like a cart. Yeah, I got our wheels. So like you're not using to take it on the wall

“Zach, when is your when do you when are you moving out?”

The right I got to be I have to be out by the 28th and I can start going in the 11th So I have like a decent amount of days. July. Yeah. Oh, okay. I Think this is just a PM TV. I think we come over and move you it's act moves. I think I think if do you think Zach that if we brought all nine guys We won't you know just be we won't show the outside of buildings, but if we brought all nine guys We could do it in one trip. You don't want to wish moving on anyone. No, no

It's a question. It's a question. All nine guys one trip. Can we do it one has your hands full? No, it wouldn't work. I think we could. I think I try. I'm a really good Part of it. I do the dollar. Yeah, what's the couch like I don't have a couch This is done. We could do that. I do that. I know in your head you're like it's a studio But I'm very good at playing like the

The Rubik's cube game of putting things together towards like a lot more stuff You would ever that's fine. We'll I'll bring some duffel bags and some like luggage and we could just roll everything down Because we'll get a doll. Yeah, if you have the furniture dolly or the The moving dolly we're good. All right PM TV. We're moving Zach all of us and all the boys We'll need you all. I may have used moving. No, he loosely. I have it. He's got a bed. So what he's it's 800 feet

“That's the whole point of the PM TV. We're gonna walk around the street. I think I also think I'm gonna leave bed there”

Get rid of it new bed. Oh, that one did come on. That work. Yeah, I'm moving you in it So are you you're leaving the bed behind? Yeah, because I think it's something. I'm gonna get a don't size bed I'm gonna go Okay, I don't have it to waste car beds done. Oh, okay. I'm thinking about going full size adult bed on the king. Okay I tell me what got you. We I use dolly loosely. It is an industrial laundry basket wheels

Zach I'm gonna bring I have endless amounts of luggage that I can bring and we were gonna just stuff it in there and we're gonna wheel you down the street You guys don't want to do this. All right. We're doing it. PM TV also I assumed your fire festival is gonna be that you slept in Joel cloud interview. I know I thought we spoke I didn't want to Double-down center. We spoke a little earlier, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought I was in a dead spot for a couple months There and then you lose all the the progress and trust pretty quick. So back to square zero. You didn't really lose the trust

It's the same it's the same level. Yeah, yeah, like that's where I thought I was in a direction of rebuilding then You've said it's quarterly. No, it's and it but by the way It's it's right on track for quarter. Correct. Like the trust in terms of Showing up or waking up is kind of a binary thing. It's like like What I put my life that that this person will be here and for everyone here. It's yes for you

It's no that's fair. I thought I was building that back I've that's not delete. I've the delete. I've demolished that building. Yeah, that's not like a bad thing because I'm just saying life on the line I do like living so I wouldn't want to take that one out of a hundred shot Do you think I can get to a spot where it's like small injury. Yeah, okay? Yeah, and you also made it for Joel clad for the rowback question You've said quarter quarter Lee is you're right on bass

And we should mention that the Zack sleeping quarterly thing it's it's like a it's a college basketball time out in the first half

You don't use you lose it So he doesn't roll over. So you had to use the quarter two one

You were so close to just burning one that you weren't gonna ever get back

“So that was actually really savvy. I got to just get to burn in a bunch of them. Nah”

All right, numbers 15 fifth. Oh, wait did someone say 50. Yep. I'll do 50 to 30 seven 95 25 42

No, I know I'm saying like when you say Jeff Jackie Robinson. I don't know

Yeah Don't you see that easy that jumper Trying to try to scoop up the brains 37 37 what do you get me

“Happy birthday to Mike Vic. Did you miss any on Wednesday? I don't think so. Oh, okay”

Wait yeah, it makes me nervous when you say that I didn't know I could I kind of zone out the birthdays because now it's become just like name every celebrity Yeah, I said Mark tight. Okay. All right good. Yeah. I said tightest. Yeah zone out this celebrity happy birthday Mike Vic though. Yeah, Mike Vic happy birthday to Ariana Grande as well. So now happy birthday to Shannon Charles zone out happy birthday Joey cold cuts. Okay. That's a good one Yeah happy birthday Bobby Wagner zone out happy birthday Helen Keller. Hope she hears that's a good one

Hope she hears this missy babe. It's good joke What's that means missy death? Yeah, I turns out she has forgot about that. Yep. Yeah. Mm-hmm Love you joking. It's good joke. She'd still get it. Get a sign it is she does and dumb is she real No dumb is actual correct term for it. Yeah dumb they let her fly a plane fucking idiot

“She did fly planes. Is that real to chief on the plane? Yeah, it was a pho to a lot. Yeah, it was like on how cookie is this?”

We're we our planes are so good even Helen Keller could fly him and she was just sitting there like given the thumbs up If I was a patched on the plane though, I still would probably raise my hand and be like this is It's not to love you guys (upbeat music)

, the first time I've ever seen a movie.

, the first time I've ever seen a movie. (upbeat music)