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April 3rd. And boys, it's final four weekend. But before we preview the games and talk the final four. What's going on in Philadelphia? Well, I got a question. Yeah. Is everything okay with Jill and Hertz and AJ Brown? I don't know PFT. There's a lot of this. This is the biggest story. Okay. Oh, what do you want to sail? Tiger got to do the footage came out of Tiger's DUI rest. He's pretty fucked up. Yeah, I mean, you could go puking the cooler to
rehab. That's another one. That's a nice light story to get started with. Yeah, Max. This isn't a light story. Those people fools, right? Oh, thanks. Yeah, I know. I wasn't. It's just I noted that on Wednesday. Like, imagine having a real story. Like, that's a brutal day. So, like, do you see Jerry Sanduski retired shout Jerry Sanduski? He retired out of years working in football. So, in football guy. Yeah. Jerry Sanduski. Well, no, no, well, talk about Gerard Sanduski. The raisins and raisins.
Oh, it's good guy.
the other Jerry Sanduski. And being like, I'm going to keep doing my job in football. He's another victim of Jerry Sanduski. It's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, everybody looked at him sideways for the rest of his life. Yeah, but yeah, 20 years. But he announced it on Wednesday, April 1st. And I was like, damn, imagine announcing your retirement 20 years is the voice of the Baltimore Ravens on
April 1st. And so everyone say April fools. So, when I woke up in the morning, the first article
that I read, I saw online on the ESPN.com homepage. It was the Jalen Hertz Philadelphia Eagles article. And I thought it was April fools. Yeah. Like, why is this article coming out right now? It's seemed like it was just a mean April Fool's to troll one person or a good friend, Max Lente. And then I read it. And, um, pick it. Did you read the article? I read, uh, I read most of it. Okay. Hank, did you read the article? I did not. Okay. Zach, did you read the article? I did. Okay. And that's
the longest art. This was the most words I've read in like 10 years. Yesterday, Max, it said
“you had it ready yet. It is like, that's why I didn't read all of it. I fell asleep halfway.”
My place. Correct. Because it was a whole lot of nothing. It was a great point big cat, a point big cat. Yeah. It's a big article. I'm going to do the the wind horse. Okay. There were a lot of sources. Yes. A ton of sources. This is my gateway as well. My big take away from this is there are some people in that still work for the Eagles in the front office and the coaching ranks, the Philadelphia Eagles that authorized a hatchet job against their starting quarter. Correct.
Not just your patoulos, not just the guys that used to work there. You're Brian Johnson's, not just your uh, your your former employees that might still hold a grudge. There's some guys inside those walls that gave the go ahead and the green light to run a clear hit piece against the guy, your Super Bowl MVP starting quarterback. And the guy that should be leading you for the next five to 10 years, why would they do that? Yes. So I had the exact same takeaway.
The actual contents of the article is basically everything we knew, you know,
oh, the offense was stale. Yeah. He didn't want to let it rip, you know, the four verts and the season, all these things I feel like most people knew. We actually picked up on the four verts conversation when it happened. That was also misleading and a lot of tweets and what was actually putting that in that article. Go on. They said that jail in hurts was the one that made the call first. No, he agreed. He agreed to it. Yeah. But if you see if you look on a lot of headlines on Twitter,
“it says jail in hurts made the call for for for for forverts. I think it was uh, he there's a”
couple of options and he selected fourverts. No, no, no, they it looked like ne seriani and Kevin Toulos didn't know what to do and they were like, oh, hurts, what do you want to do and he's like, ah, I don't know, fourverts. Why if you're the if you are the play caller, make the fucking call. Agreed. Are you fighting in that little description? You just gave right there, Max, jail in hurts did make the call. Yeah. And wrong. That's where you just said those,
but like the the way that you look it up online. It's like that he that he changed the call. Right. Why also does it when the way you just described it is make you a little nervous that the head coach the Philadelphia Eagles is gust divert it because what you just described is literally every big moment when I played the college football game and I'm like, what the fuck do I do? What the fuck do I do? All right, I'll just do fourverts. He wasn't the play caller.
“Well, there was that other play call at the end of the packer's game, which we talked about when”
that game when that game happened. That was one of the worst games ever football game. And that called the deep shot to AJ, apparently when Devante was coming off the field, they asked him like, hey, what what the fuck was that play call? Yeah. And he just said one in 11. Yeah. Which is hurts and AJ Brown. So maybe they're maybe they're too good at friends. Sure. Anyway, back to the big picture and Max, I don't know if you, I don't think I'm not trying
to troll you. I'm actually talking about this article because there isn't a lot going on. We're going to get to the final four. Kirk cousin's also. Kirk cousin. We'll talk about Kirk cousin signed an 11th straight year having fully guaranteed contract in the NFL and congratulations. Absolutely. God in terms of contracts. Max, if I were an Eagles fan, the things I would be worried about from this article again, not the contents. It's more the fact that one, it the best case scenario,
you have some massive leak problems. We're all trying to find the guy who's doing this. Okay. And then the worst case scenario, there actually isn't a massive leak problem. This is a coordinated attack. Kind of like what PFT was saying that they're trying to get ready get everyone ready for a move that's coming to get rid of jail in hurts. I would not be surprised if how he'd write. Yeah, absolutely. Because it did feel like a, hey, we're not we're getting everyone ready
in the mindset we're basically giving you ammo. So when this happens, you could say, aha,
That it was because of all this and, you know, we're dumb as fans.
enough reasons in anonymous sources and enough like talking points when they, if they make a drastic move, you could be like, well, yeah, you know, there was, there was some issues. It's, it's,
it's, a lot of people are saying it's basically what they did with Carson Wentz and jailing.
Right. Yeah. Right. That like, I would not be surprised if there's a day to a quarter back that, that, that. Correct. Correct. Or, or maybe a Thai Simpson or a Tana McKee. I wouldn't be surprised with anything because hurts gets paid a lot of money. I actually,
“I think it's enormously Tana McKee because they were shopping Tana McKee. Yeah, it was Tana McKee.”
They wouldn't have been shopping. Max, take your headphones off real quick. Yeah, please. Okay. Um, Hank, this is, this is wildly disrespectful to jailing hurts. I agree. Like, the guy is a Superbowl MVP quarterback. He outplayed Patrick Holmes in two Superbowl. Two Superbowl. He had a bad season last year. The whole offense had a bad season last year. And for everybody to just like turn and
take their knives out and start stabbing this guy in the back repeatedly, it feels, I mean, it's a,
it's a fucked up situation. He's got a, he doesn't have a lot of friends in that building. He doesn't. And I feel, I feel bad for the guy. He doesn't deserve this, but it, it does feel like it was a court, they called in the code red. Yeah. And they're just having a little sock party on him. Just beat the fuck out and put a hit out on him. I feel bad for jailing hurts. He doesn't deserve any of this stuff. He's way too good at player. What do you think, Hank? I'm just wondering how this affects
“uh, AJ Brown's trade value. I think it actually, it seems like, I think it hurts it. So I think it seems”
like he's gone no matter what. Yeah. So it might help, you know, Max, trying to, trying to, to acquire him, because the Eagles are pretty much, they've, seems like they made the decision to move on from AJ Brown. Yeah. Oh, I think AJ Brown, getting rid of AJ Brown is part of that process. I don't know. I think that this might make it more likely for them to keep AJ Brown and move on from jail and hurts. That would be crazy, because he's a Super Bowl MVP that I'll play. Patrick Williams.
I'm not, why not trade both? There's some propaganda from Hank. Why not trade both? I feel like if I was a Eagles fan, that would drive me insane to trade both. Yeah. But AJ Brown's gone in your mind. I, that's biased mind. Yes. Yeah. And where does he go and your mind? Doing good. I appreciate. I appreciate you acknowledging bias. Yeah. I wish I was. No, I appreciate that. Yeah. Max, do you think it's one bias he's still going to think it's more
or less likely now that AJ Brown gets traded. I don't know. I think I, I've thought AJ Brown was probably going for a while now. I think it's just going to, he's just going to get traded after Jennifer's. The one he's not going to, yeah. The one thing I will say that I do love about Philadelphia. And Max, you could back me up. I'm PFT's division rivals with Philadelphia. Hank hates a city of Philadelphia.
I think I've always been for I like Philadelphia. I think the fans are awesome. I think it's good
for the ecosystem. They're going to spend the next week, trashing Jeremy Fowler. And then when they do trade jail and hurts, they're going to be like, Jeremy Fowler, you were right. I think they're still going to hate him. Like there's a chance that everyone, a lot of Eagles fans hate Jeremy Fowler. And then like come September, they're going to be posting Jeremy Fowler's article being like, this is why. But what about when jail and hurts doesn't have to be here? Then they'll be able to
trash them. But you see what I'm saying. Yes, I am aware of that situation. Are you blocked by Jeremy Fowler? I haven't said anything about actually. I know I did say one thing. I said, I just say, fuck you, buddy. Just tweet him. I don't know. I was fired up yesterday. I quote tweeted some like random Eagles account. That was like, why are we running this story today? But and people were like, obviously, it's an Eagles account. They're going to post about it. But I wasn't talking about
them. I was talking about Jeremy Fowler. I should have quote tweeted Jeremy Fowler himself. Yeah, say fuck you, buddy. Do them. Just say it. Just said the shot. Yeah. Send it. They're at a crossroads. Yeah. They're at a cross. That's when Jeremy Fowler's reporting. So this is a crossroads. It could also be like, Oh, you're going, you don't even have to do. You could just do at Jeremy Fowler. So
“it's not public. Like it's, oh, yeah. I'm not even if you want to go full out there. But yeah,”
this could just be one season and let's see what happens with jail and hurts. Like he has to something has to change going to this year. And then if nothing changes, then they move on. Or it could just be this this offseason. I don't know. He really, what we've got to get off. Yeah. That's a meme's line. Yeah. I was in my head. I was like, if I were memes, what would I, what would I say here? And I think get fucked. Is that a good, good play, a good move
right there? Perfect. Yeah. Well, we'll follow up in in 20 minutes. If you got blocks. I think he was blocking some Eagle Sands. That is what it is. You got to shoot the messenger. Sometimes, yeah, if you get bad news, you got to shoot the messenger. Actually, if it's, if it's an article that comes out early April, just, hey, FYI, it honestly sounds like a way that me and Big Cat would start
Episode of part of my take in a dead week in April, just to fuck with Max.
out of nowhere. I have no idea what, it sounds like some of that's been planned for a long time. And in the, the fact that it's, you know, happening when the entire league is at the same hotel.
Yeah. In Arizona, it doesn't, it's just the leagues are really what the problem is, Max.
Unless, unless again, it's the, the plan is, this is, this was all planned out. And then they're going to draft a quarterback and move on from jail and heart. I don't think it was like six or seven
“guys just like independently deciding now is the time to leak. Yeah. I think there's, there were a”
couple of people that gave the Greenlight said, yeah, you can talk to Jeremy Fowler now. See, it's someone of the Eagles put a head out. I'm saying, somebody at the Eagles might need to have a message sent to him or maybe Kevin Tullo just has a lot of buddies that one of the different. Is someone's the staff? I was trying to look into that. I think he is. Because I haven't seen anywhere that he's not. Okay. It's not not on the staff.
He's not not on the staff. Yeah, that's fair. He's somewhere. Oh, wait. That's complete lie. He's passing a coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. No, I thought I looked into it. Guess I did. Oh, man. We got the best researchers in the business here. He's down in Miami. You know what? Probably happened is I think I googled it to look at this and then I got distracted by something and you saw it. You saw it. You saw it. You saw follow through. You googled Kevin
Ptole and saw the first picture of him and the Eagles. Yeah, that hat and you're like, oh, I guess he's
still on the team. And here it still says teams. Yeah. Yeah. But then, you know, you go to, all you got to do is look over to the overview when it says Miami Dolphins and I remempt. And now that we talking, we're talking about this. I remember when he got hired by this. Yeah. It's I remember thinking like, wow, what a loser organization hiring a loser code. Okay. That's it, Max. That was actually very, that wasn't, I think we all. I think that was a great follow-up. Yeah, I'm okay with all of that.
I think we all agree because we all kind of had the same takeways. Like, it's not the jail and hurts bashing. It's the leaks. And is this something that they're trying to set up another play for all? Like, if there's a guy that's that good, that's played at that high of a level and you're
“not getting it out of him anymore, you have to look at your coaches first. Yeah. There's something”
else that might be going wrong. The fact that they all turned on him at one time tells me they're they're looking to get him out of there. Yeah. And some team would probably be looking to overpay for him and how he, you know, how he sees a situation like that and he won't be able to help himself if the team's like, oh, but that's another thing about the leaks. Like, the, if you was trying to get rid of him, now his stock just went down after after this. Oh, good point. Like, good point. How he's
very big on like trying to get the most out of all of their guys right now is not the most after this. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a fair counterpoint. Kurt Cousins, like we said, Raiders signed Bill for $8. He is now made. So he's fully guaranteed for again, the 11th straight season.
Shout out Kurt Cousins. If he plays out this contract, he will make $343 million in his NFL career.
Yeah. Absolutely. Legend. Good for him. Played it right. I mean, going back to the first time he got paid. Everybody called him weird for like they said the situation was messed up going into like back to back to back, uh, tag years and then somehow his agent only picks up the phone for guaranteed money, even going to Atlanta. They guaranteed money that he got there for not really working that hard. Pretty, pretty legendary. Yeah. And then this contract with Vegas, it sounds like
it's, it's really a one year, 20 million dollar contract and then they can, they can go back to it after the fact. I know the Raiders are saying that they, they don't want Mendoza to start this year. Yeah. So Kirk might start and it's also, I, I can't think of a better pairing than Kirk Cousins in Fernando, Mendoza. All right. Yeah. We were, uh, we're live in Wake Up Arsenal when it broke and Big T goes, they might build a mega church. Yeah. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're going
to be best for it. Yeah. It's going to be great. It's, it's a perfect, perfect fit and Kirk Cousins is going to be pretty much like a, like a coach. Yeah. He's going to be like a second coach trying to,
“I think it'll be a good teammate, uh, helping to bring Mendoza along and probably, they'll, they're just”
like brothers. They're the same guy. Just ones a little bit younger and a little bit bigger, um, but they're going to get along well and I feel like this is, it's a, uh, very funny thing that there's such a great fit, but it's also in Las Vegas, the city that's like least, it's the, it's the least Kirk Cousins city in North America. I think it's at least Fernando Mendoza's city. They need a wild card third string. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He's like Kelly. Yeah,
get Kelly and the mix there. Johnny Menzel. Yeah. That would be so sick. They get, I think they little have an inhale. Yeah. They need a little bit of shit in that locker room, right? Well, Max draws you still there. That's true. Yeah. He's a dog. He is. He's an absolute dog. Yeah,
Christian Wilkins back in the mix.
Final Four Talk. The Jade Nivey thing is gotten weirder. It's very, very weird. It's also just, everyone's picking aside and not, the, the story was that he, I hope it gets, uh, aka our general
manager of fire, which it should, but the story that he basically said told the trainers that Jesus
healed his knee and then he got an MRI and they're like, no. I mean, far beyond for me to tell him that he's wrong. Yeah. Like try to, okay, try to play. Mike might be, and then Jesus Christ, Jesus got crossed up too. Yeah. Yeah. And then Tiger, all the, all the, all the videos came out, did not look good.
“Yeah. Um, the body can put the blanket. That's what happens in movies. Like after the, the good”
guy, the cop, like winds at the end, they, they show up with the ambulance and they're like, here's a blanket to put over you in a little butterfly bandage to stitch up your face. You they save the kid out of the well. Yeah. I can move blanket. I don't know what that Tiger needed to blanket for that. Um, but Tiger taken a knee. That was like he looked like Drew Breeze. It was a solid knee that he was taking. It was a solid knee for a long time. Um, yeah. I just hope same thing with Tiger
and, uh, and I hope that they both are okay. Yeah. Mentally. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Should we talk about the final four? Are we ready? Should we do, we, we, we do have a, uh, we're going to do a bet. So let me do, let me do the ad real quick and then we'll do, we'll figure out a bet for the people. Uh, it will be tough for people in Illinois three, three team parlay and some people are not going to be able to bet it. We're going to include the Illinois UConn
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“and then we'll do our pick? Let's just do it now. Okay, let's do the pick now. Okay, what do you got?”
I would like Arizona money line. Okay, okay. I don't hate that. I don't hate it either. Plus 105 right now. Plus 105. Arizona money line. The fact that they're underdogs is crazy to me. Michigan's really, really good. Arizona has looked monster. Arizona's really, really good. They're true the best teams in a long, long time to be matched up in a final four pft. I think you got to go with a total in this game. So I'm actually going to be not in Illinois this weekend.
So does that mean that I could make my leg the Illinois game? Well, I was going to do it because I'm going to be an indie. Okay. Yeah, if you wanted, so I'll just, well, if you have something
else, because I have, I was going to take the first half over Illinois in UConn. Okay, 63 and a half,
I believe it is. And we'll, we'll make sure it's updated. But yeah, I was going to be mine. So you can go off that. I was going to go with UConn over 68 and a half points. Love that. I don't think that
They're going to start off shooting as poorly as they did in the Elite 8.
I'm excited for these games. I think it's going to be great, great, great basketball. You're very
excited. So, so if we're just going, just quick, quick stats. In fact, you, everyone knows that the, they love the, the Ken Palm stats pre-tournament and, and so 19 of the last 21 champions have a top 10 Ken Palm offense. If that holds true, UConn's eliminated. It's Illinois, one, Arizona, four, Michigan, five. Those are the three that fit the profile. Now, what was UConn? They're 28. But here's the wrinkle to that stats. So like I said, 19 of the last 21 champions had a top 10
Ken Palm offense. The two champions that did not have a top 10 Ken Palm offense. Any guesses? Any guesses? Yeah. Twice. Yeah. 2011 UConn and 2014 UConn makes sense. So it's really the
stat is 21 out of the last 21 champions if either had a top 10 offense or been named UConn. But
but also those are the old iteration of UConn. Not like they current Danny Hurley iteration. Correct. But yeah, that was the Kevin Olly UConn and that was Jim Calhoun's last championship. But it is
“funny that the two, the two outliers are UConn who is here. I think that it's a very important”
conversation that we should start having, just in case UConn does win another national championship. That would make it three for Danny Hurley. I think that would make Danny Hurley the best balled coach in sports history in sports history. I think it would. The only, I thought about it. The only other option could be red R-box. Okay. But he wasn't balled for his entire career. Okay. I think right now he's up there. I think he's already on the Mount Rushmore of
bald head coaches. But if he wins a third, that puts you in rare fried air with college basketball.
Wouldn't you, under that same reasoning, what about Bill Self? No, no, to pay. Like Danny Hurley, he wears it loud. He would not proud. He owns it. He is very bald. There's no questions. Okay. We're not talking about Tom Tibodot here. We're talking about Danny Hurley, bald bald. All right. I got a couple others that all threw out there. Okay. If we want to go talking soccer, Pep. Pep Guardiola? Has he won a lot? I think he's won a lot. I honestly don't know
that much about Pep. I know that you look up Pep Guardiola winning. He's Hank's best friends, best friend. Yeah, that's true, Hank. Do you have any thoughts on Pep? Joe Mizzool loves him. I know nothing about him. Okay. Who's called? Man United. Um, some team. I actually don't know either. I think he was man city for a while. And then he was, I think he's somewhere else now.
“I don't know how much he's won. I think he's, he's very, very highly regarded. How many trophies?”
Pep Guardiola? How many trophies? He's won 40 major trophies? They give out trophies for everything. No. That includes 12 league titles, 16 domestic cups, 12 international titles, three champions, leagues, and four FIFA club world cups. That's a lot. It's a lot. I get a shit load of trophies. I think I'll, I'll make this a non-soccer related. All right, non-soccer on Tom Landry. Do we know, because Tom Landry had the hat? He did have the hat, so we don't know if we want to
eliminate him. Yeah. Was Tom Landry bald. I think he was. I think he was very bald. I think he actually had like the perfect male pattern bald as Larry David. Yeah, the hoop. Yeah. He was, yes, I'm looking at a picture of Tom Landry. He was, he was very bald. Put the hat. I feel like. Yeah, I agree. That's a hat to throw now. I'm showing out guys. Get the discussion going. Matt Nagy. He's up there, too. Yes, but yeah. He won coach the year. I keep forgetting that. He did win coach the year.
“Tarkini and I believe was bald. Yep, Rick Majeras. Yep, Rick Majeras. Yeah, but I,”
if you get your right. No, I, I'm just throwing out names just throw out names, but I, I think you might be right. Like somebody somebody told me, Tony Dungey should be up there in that conversation. I think as it stands right now, I have won. Danny Hurley's got two college basketball national championships. Tony Dungey has won Super Bowl. Yeah. Those are equivalent. Okay. What about Scotty Bowman? Okay. Now, now we're getting in some territory that I'm not that familiar with.
So Scotty Bowman. He's a legendary coach. How many Stanley cups does he have? He won one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine in certain in some capacity. Nine, nine Stanley cups as a coach. As a coach. That's not what about a head coat. That's a ton. That's a shit load of Stanley cups. I don't know. I would be okay. I would, I would respectfully, I would put Scotty Bowman maybe ahead of Dan Hurley. But like, what are, who are the other coaches that have three off the
top my head? Bob Knight, right? Yeah. Roy Williams, I believe, has three. Who else? Oh, of a college
Coach, yeah.
Who else? Jim Calhoun, Jim Calhoun has four, three. Yes. No, he's four. No, he's three. Three. He's three.
Jim Calhoun has three. We're not going all the way back there. He ain't just wanted to shout out eight off. Coach K, Roy Williams. I'm just trying to think. Yeah. So, I mean, you're right, PFT, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good thought starter. Yeah, it's a good, it's a good thought starter. And I don't, I don't hate the, uh, the take that he would be, he'd be the, the best, the Scottie Bowman probably hurts his case a little. Bob Knight has three.
Jim Calhoun has three. Roy Williams has three. Uh, and then Bill Sulf has two. Repetino has two. Calhs still has one. Calhs got one. Yeah, but I mean, if, I would hurtly get this. He writes got two.
He's young and still a lot of, a lot of meat left on that ball. He's incredible. Coach. He's a great,
“great head coach. I think sometimes, and when we talk to him, I was thinking about this,”
sometimes he's such a psychopath that we just kind of fall in love with how fun he is and how like how polarizing he is. And we forget the fact that he is a very, very good basketball coach, exes knows and a super smart guy. Yes, yes. He, uh, he's a hell of a coach. And we're going to talk about it with Steve, but the thing I keep going back to is that you con in the Big East versus you con in the non-conferences, uh, stark difference. Well, six times the last four years in the non-conference.
And this is a non-conference game now. For Illinois, Illinois has been, uh, it's, I would say they're the least talked about of the four teams just because Hugh Con's been there, Michigan Arizona, everyone's saying, that's the national title. I totally disagree. Illinois is so goddamn good. And Brad Underwood is such a good coach as well. Underwood is 75% against the spread win percentage in the more prep time rounds. That's round to 64 sweet 16 final four. So that's tied for fourth
best minimum 10 games for any coach since 1985. The top four are Chris Beard, Chris Mac, Dan Hurley, who's 10 and three against Fred and Brad Underwood, 9 and three. So he's an insanely good coach
“and it's going to be an awesome matchup. I think, wow, I feel like Wagner's going to be,”
I don't know, this might be his. He's already had his coming out party, but yeah, it's like even more so. I mean, when, yeah, when when he takes over games, he's the most fun to watch. Yeah, I, I have no idea. I, in either of these two games. I think they're both going to be awesome games. I think that's my prediction is they're both going to be within five. I would love it. I mean, they're both spreads with this low. I think they're both going to be
close games. If, if you had gun to my head, I would say Arizona and I would, I think I would say Yukon, but Illinois is great team. Routy out in this fear, too. Routy. Oh, like Yukon, Illinois being
there, easy, easy trip for them. Michigan, always travel as well. Yukon, yeah, our house. Yeah.
I think it's going to be one of the more Routy final four games. They are also Illinois is the, just by point differential entering the final four, they're the fourth best team seeded three or higher to make the final four in terms of point differential. They're, they're plus 19.8 points in their first four games. The best three or higher was 2023 Yukon plus 2022 and half, and they won the title. So it's like, yeah, these get in the game that they played
early in the season, just throw it out. Steve will tell you exactly why the one thing he didn't mention, it was also a game that was played on NBA Cup floor. Yeah, and it was brutal to watch. So I hated that. I was contemplate BYU early in the season. I NBA Cup floor. It's like, this is just because NBA Cup, you get it, putting for a college game and makes no sense. Yep. So that game's going to be great. And then Arizona, Michigan, oh boy, it's, it's going to be awesome.
“Big boy basketball. Big boy basketball. The only thing I'd be worried about if our”
Michigan is that they got to stop giving Elliott Kato stuff that he's allergic to right before they leave. Yeah. So what happened? What was he allergic to? I don't know what he was allergic to, but he had to get medical attention. He was carded off during Wolverine's practice after suffering in allergic reaction. That's like, that's got to be worth the end of the season. You got to know what the guy's allergic to. This sounds like some some classic Tom Florey,
some Ohio State hijinks, some some malfeasance. Yeah, I don't know. Like, yeah, what are you getting allergic to in the middle of practice? I don't know. But yeah, it does, it does feel like something's up. He is going to be okay though. Yeah, I think he's going to be fine. There was also, I think, I saw that was the axle was, was life was he live streaming last night till like two in the morning? Did you see a story like that? Yeah, axle is, how do we feel about yeah, axle?
Why said I, he's unbelievable player.
Yeah. All right. I don't know if he was live streaming. Maybe I just saw that in passing that was not correct. Yeah. Well, I don't like the, we talked about it. I don't like that he was like calling out being disrespected by freshman guarding him when he's 23 years old. But man, I don't, Michigan doesn't deserve another title after football. Yeah. I mean, this is, we're living in the Dave Port noise, no globe. This would be his final boss. This has gotten everything else.
“This is it. Like he's, but all he's focused on is how bad the Red Sox are. Yeah. It's the only thing”
that he cares about right now. Well, he did, he did the side he was going to bet the Red Sox, every single game this year. Have they started on six? One, five, one and five. So that's the tough start. Yeah. He, uh, axle is very good. Michigan is awesome. This is going to be just tightens. I, I don't know. I don't know about this game. I keep going back and forth. You like Arizona a lot? Well, Arizona. This is classic length versus strength. I just length versus length. Yeah. And strength
versus strength. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I, I feel like Arizona's bigs might be more powerful, but not
by much. But Michigan's bigs are great on defense. I'm excited. Again, I think it's going to be another close game. I think, I think, I think Hank, I would agree with you. I would say I would lean Arizona, but I think I think America's the real winner. That's my take. Absolutely. By the way, the, did you see the ratings for the Duke UConn game was like 19 million people watch? We're in a, it's proving true for all the, for all the naysayers and people said that college college sports
are, are going down and the tournament is losses ruster. People are watching. We are in a golden age of Duke choking. Yeah. The last five years have just been a hell of a run that America's been on.
“So that, yeah, you said 19 million. I think so. If you can find it max, I think it was 19.”
It was a lot of people. A lot of people tuned in late to see and what a game it was. Do we, do we cover that game? I think we're going to talk about what Stanford is. Yeah. All right. All right. What else? Oh, no, I was off. Now you're right. Oh,
peak that 19. Yeah, average 13 point. I don't, can I just say I never will understand
how any of this shit works. Oh, they're like average rating and the one that comes out overnight. No, don't don't don't don't get it whatsoever. You could sit down and explain it to me. How are they tracking it? The Nielsen rating makes no sense to me. I like I get the concept of it that they just put it in average person's home and then they try to, but I still don't get it. Yeah, for a while, you, you had to write it down. Like you would have to keep a log of everything that you watched in your house
and like mail in a notebook. Do you know that we have a person in this office who used to be a sales person for the Nielsen ratings? He used to go door to door selling Nielsen boxes. Did you guys know that? If I were to guess Steven Chey, Twitch, Twitch. Oh, really? That's class. Yeah. I mean, Steven Chey's the number one box guy that we got. He is the number of box guys. What is a Nielsen box like why would it consume or like to have that? All right, either power.
You could use your views matter. You could paint like a hundred bucks a month ago. Oh, yeah. The power you would have. Like you could watch whatever you want and then the powers that be that collect that data, they would think that whatever it is you watch is typical of like a hundred
thousand homes. It's a very powerful position. I'd like to get a Nielsen rating and Zack's apartment.
Oh, yeah. Zack, I can do an assignment this week. I can't remember. I assignment this week. Yeah. It's a research something. I can't, I'm vaguely thinking that I did, but I can't remember fact. I think the last assignment was the fun facts for the group of 16. Okay. I gave you an assignment. Yeah, notes on the Eagles article. Yeah, I didn't ask you about those. We don't have to, we already did that. No, no. Oh, no. I asked you to look up. That's my first thing.
Yeah, we were passing, I think we talked last week in the fast went well. Yeah. We were talking fast at the in Arizona. I ended up in 50 hours. And I actually, it was great. Did you, did you,
“did you go blow out mail on the way back in or do you ease in? I eased in. That's what I call an hour”
after easing and I went blow out mail. What was that? What did you ease in with? Bob Roth and some carrots. What did you blow out with? Just a huge play of spaghetti and meat sauce. Oh, what an evening. It's great in the ice cream. Zach, National Sports System. National Sports Podcast. What were your notes that you took from the Eagles article? You want me to share a couple? Yeah, just like some things that I noticed. I
were in the article. Yeah, regularly pushing back on things that would diversify the offensive
Scheme.
Maybe herds may be surrounded by Yesmen. And with Eagles passing game, bringing completely down
last season, they may have to heavily rely on take one barcally moving forward. The Yesmen thing, this is exact opposite of Yesmen. I was just going off the article. This is just going off the report, but this report in itself proves that there's not Yesmen, because it's people that don't
“agree. That's why you tweet him. Get fucked. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You're being a Yesman right now.”
Oh, update. See if Jeremy Father blocked you. I did have two other things. One, this is for you, PFT, a pro-wemby stat. Yeah. Are you ready for this? The Sid Antonio spurs on January 31st this year,
where their record was 32 in 16. Their record on April 1st, which was Wednesday 57 and 18,
it lost two games, two games in the month of February and March. Yeah, they've been, they've been on a hell of a run. Also, our guy's stat hole, he has put together a couple stats for me, just to raise awareness to how good Wimby has been, how effective he's been. He's got a new stat that he came out with. I love this stat. It's just called things. So it takes into account everything. Like points or things, rebounds or things, blocks or things, steals or things, and Wimby leads SGA in things this season
on a per game basis by quite a bit, actually. He's the number one guy in the NBA in terms of things per game. And also his defense is just so much better than SGA's. Wimby's number one,
“by far in the entire NBA, B-Ball Paul is second. And then I think SGA is eighth on his own team”
in defense. So if defense matters, I feel like you got to go with the god of the hour. You got to, you got to. Okay, I've got two, I have two other things to go ahead. You go ahead. Now you go. Well, I was going to say, what do we think is a group knowing that LeBron James is most likely washed us? LeBron, with our guy's Bob does sport. It's cool. He probably saw Hank, Dave Laff and Hank's face when he was not allowed to play in the area of rotational. He saw you in Luke Juan, PFT. He
probably was blown away by me at Nade Shots. Come Roddy though. He saw me deny a bunch of appeals and do nothing else. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. I mean LeBron, like I said, I've said it when we talked about him doing the golf swings on the sideline, it's like the farther we get, the more I'm like, I kind of love this guy. Like we're a lot more like than maybe I ever thought. That's you and LeBron. He goes to work and thinks about golf and it goes home and watches,
you know, Bob just sports in the boys. Yeah. Same. Yeah. You guys are pretty much the same guy.
“Pretty much. Pretty much the same. He struggles to dunk now too. Yeah, I think in what I've seen so far”
from the video, he LeBron might just be hilarious. You might just be a very funny guy. I don't like
you guys just switching up like I'm not this is not I'm not this is gonna live. I've always like
LeBron. This is golf LeBron. This is golf LeBron. This is golf LeBron that we're talking about. LeBoff. LeBoff. But I'm not. I'm not switching up. When he was talking about Memphis, that was very, very funny in the video. He is I've never seen LeBron do this sort of content before. I like it. Yeah. Max. I went on the record. I am very much looking forward to the opportunity for LeBron and there's probably a 0.05 chance. He actually competes in an
internet invitation. But I'm looking forward to that moment when he's standing over a big pot. And I will say absolutely nothing but I will laugh when Dave says something. I like I'm a pussy. I was thinking about how I was thinking about that as well. And I think in my head and my imagination it goes like him. Oh, I think I wanted to do the interpretation and then someone on his team giving him a binder with like things that Dave has said and other people at
parcel have said and he's like, oh, maybe not. Yeah. Yeah. But imagine Dave standing over a LeBron pot. Yeah. I mean, it would be a fever dream. It actually would be like, how do we end up in this spot? Oh, LeBron and the Duke going out day one as a team. Yeah. By the way. By the way, Tommy Lloyd, did you see his his press conference? He's I feel like he's the UNCA coach. I think he might be the
UNCA coach.
I've decided to approach it. He's not a multitasker in his wifehood of tests. I'm 100% locked in on Arizona basketball right now. I'm excited to see what this team could do. I have a real strong belief in this team and this team deserves my full attention. So that's where I'm giving them. I feel like when you when you bring in your wife as a shield. Yeah. As a character witness. Yeah. You're gone.
“Yeah. I think Tommy. Hey guys. I swear to God. I'm not going to UNC just ask my wife. Oh,”
she does. Oh, she's not doing a press conference. Well, if you could ask her, she would say the same. I think, uh, Miss Lloyd might be very active on Chapel Hills, they're low right about now. Yeah. I think she might be cruising, looking at some nice living room. You probably get some tips from Jordan. Yeah. She's probably getting some some tips on where to brunch with Jordan. Oh, yeah. Let's look at
Chapel Hills places that beautiful is looking incredible gorgeous gorgeous North Carolina in general.
Five million. Oh, you're going five millie top five state. That's just land. We just got land for five millies. He's got a he can't be buying land. You can't be buying land. You got to be buying oh six. That that's where you can get for six millie there. Oh, yeah. That's a nice house. That is pretty Tommy Lloyd. You're going to like that. Yeah. Two. Oh, basket out of basketball. Basketball who's a kind of basketball. Yeah, probably who's Tommy Lloyd's doing. Yep. Are they aied it in to appeal the
Tommy Lloyd? I feel like though. I mean, Arizona's pretty nice place to live too. It is, but I mean, you know, it's hot there. It's hot in the summer. Yeah. But it's a dry swamp ass. It's dry. It's dry. The tear me suits socks. It's dry. It's a dry heat. Okay. We got anything else? Should we get to our guy? Oh, anything master's pre-pre-pre-view? Sad feels not planned. Yeah. First time since 1994 that there will be at least one of Tiger Phil. I'm sad about that too. That is sad. I like seeing the fill out there.
Oh, wow. He's looking at a $13 million own a house. You can get a better house in Arizona, but the price is better in Chapel Hill. More bang for your buck. Some of these houses on Zill would
“you get to that price point. It looks like a museum. You would live in a house where you should”
you be worried that you break anything. And I think it's, the kinds of houses that you'd like still be finding out different features of your house after like two years of living there. Yes.
Just an insane Airbnb where it never feels like home. Yeah. I don't know there was fireplace in
this room. Just one time I would like, I would like for like a $13 million house on Zill to have in the living room. Just a lazy boy that looks like it's been farted in 7,000 times. Are just a room that's just a wall of TVs. Yeah. Yeah. Just give me, I want to, I want to know what normal house in America is the most TVs. I got a lot. Yeah. You do have a way. It might be me. It might be me. It might be me. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Stanford Steve and then we have Firefest
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Coverage options are selected by the customer availability and eligibility vary by state. And now here's Stanford Steve. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Our due to the year. He came on for conference championship week. We are not going to see him at the final four sadly. The tradition is is is broken. It is Stanford Steve. He's going to the
Women's final four with his daughters shout out, "Dad of the year, due to the...
So because we're not going to see him, we figured, "Hey, let's have you on before the final four. What a final four. It's going to be get all your thoughts. Are you going to regret not spending that Sunday with us, though? Because that was, I think we did it probably six or seven years in a row, Sunday a final four. Go get wings with Steve. I'm sad." Yeah, it's Indy, Titus, get him back off the mat, get him out of the mud.
Good luck. See how he's doing. But yeah, if I'm going to trade you guys for something, it's got to be the family, right? wifey and kids, Arizona, I figure it's a decent spot to go, Scott's Dale. But yeah, this is tradition that's broken and it's totally my fault and I appreciate the lack of ball breaking on your part, Dan. But I know you guys haven't even gotten there and
“probably pick up once a couple cocktails start flowing and that's how things go. But we're a”
big boys. We can handle things. You hit my soft spot because I actually like, as a kid, all I wanted to do was go to the final four and I am going to, I'm planning on some day. I actually was thinking about it this year, but my son's just, he's like, he's six years old. I don't know if he can do a full weekend. So in the future, I'm going to start bringing my kids to the final four. So he hit my soft spot. That's an excused absence. But let's do it. Let's hop in. What a final four.
Oh, I totally forgot PFT. Braylon Mullins hit that shot against Duke. Yeah, we should talk a little bit about. We got it about the Elite A. That was so silly. How we got here. Steve, so you were at the game. How close of advantage point did you have in this shot? If you see meteor, if you see Rob Doster from Field to 68, I'm sitting right next to him like he has a perfect video down the other
“end. I was on the other end first row saw the whole thing first hand. So yeah, that was that was”
an all-timeer. But I will say this and people have their thoughts on what they do when their teams play and whatever. But this, you know, Dan is known me for a long time. And I do believe in the happiness hedge. I do believe in the reverse of jinx. Yeah. And that came to the all-out fruition pre-turnement. Let's just say Dan and I are in sort of the same pools. And there are investments made in teams before the tournament. And Yucan is one of my teams for a possibility
of some good finances. But to sit there and watch it, I always expect to worse, even being a Duke fan.
And it was just sitting there the whole second half, like Bill Raffery walks over to me a half time of the game and we're just sitting there telling me what's the line on this game? And I was like five and he was like, who do you got? I'm like the team that's down 13. I'm like, no, I don't make a run. We'll be fine. Like it's, it's, it's, at the whole time I'm like, our house is going to be bad. How's this going to be bad? The history of Duke and Yucan, you know, going all the way
back. I think the last time in the tournament was that 04. But then you know, you have the late new years, which really started up, I think, Yucan's an angst towards Duke. And everybody has their
story about Duke. So then Duke loses. And it's always immediate. Like when it happens now,
because of the hatred, and you guys are in this tier, it's like, all right, I'm not going on social media for like three days. So I get to Monday night, I get home, Scott and I do the show. It's probably three in the morning. We had Alex Carriman on the show. We did bad beat to the March of college basketball season. We did something out. So I just go on to post those clips in the first thing I see is Dan talking about how he came multiple Sunday. And I'm just like, this is why
“you don't go on social media. There's nothing good. That's going to come out. You have to take a”
breather. I go back to the Packers Super Bowl with Brett Farwin. They lost to the Broncos. And I mean, college is like, all right, you can't watch sports center for a week. Because it's all they talk about in that. And I think it's part of the grieving process. But to Dan's point, I still have this, Dan. Yeah, what do you got? And it's all I have to throw in your face. Oh, 2015. Yeah. Right there, buddy.
Listen, that's fine. Listen, I know that I've said this speech a billion times. I'll never get
that back. But you know what I will get? Is a ring. Every time Duke goes out in tragic fashion and holy shit. I'm like, remember remember the old Patrick Waw quote, like, I can't hear you because I got some rings in my ears. That's what I got right now with Duke because I got you. That was, I'm still coming, by the way. Like right now, you are coming. You are way. All right. So, so I will give you credit Steve. You called this. You said Duke wasn't on your list. Yes. It was because of
It because like this is this is what happened within this year.
and all three of them. They had a massive lead and they couldn't figure it out in the end.
“My theory is this and you could tell me if it's wrong. I think it's just the arrogance of Duke”
for these last two years to it will hold on and Kale Foster obviously getting hurt hurts. But the arrogance of Duke the last two years being like, you know what? We don't need a true point card. We don't need a guy who we can trust who can get his shot off the dribble who can bring who can break a press who can in those big moments calm down the offense. They thought they could, they were better than basketball. That's great that you look at that way. I'm sure
they will assess the roster. And I don't see how they're that hateable. I get everybody's eggs towards the worst. Okay. And how great he was. But like these guys, the last couple of years have been just awesome to watch what I will say which I think is maddening and it's got to be maddening. For John Shire and to your guys' point is he was the point card in 2010 on the National Championship team. He was the guy that they ran a play for in that exact circumstance.
Yep. Give me the ball. They're going to follow me. I will go to the follow line and make the shots. And he did that throughout his career. So that's one thing. But you know you guys are football guys and we say this all the time whether it's college football or NFL football and this is the way I kind of related to it. We have a rookie, say you got a rookie quarterback in the NFL right and he's going to the playoffs. And it's like, well, he's not a rookie anymore. He's got 15 starts.
And he's, you know, he's seen everything he needs to see. As a rookie goes, blah, blah, all this.
“That's what Duke is. You know, relying on freshmen. You know, you say they're, they're they've lost”
two games. They've won 30 games. You know, they're not freshmen anymore. They're still freshmen. And the whole thing starts because Cam doesn't catch the ball clean. He gives it to Saur and Saur gives it to Caden. And that's what happened. So the, the, the, the presence of mine too of Yukon. And that instance to not rush and foul or, you know, do something crazy and just take it in and Wayne it out. Proved to be the best. And you know, we had Kairman on. He talked, you know, you guys had
early on. It's really hard to simulate those kind of instances. And they said they do it in practice. And they were ready for it. So all credits to them. It's, it's been an unbelievable run. But, you know, to that Yukon point, again, thanks for pointing that out there in the list. It's 22 years in a row. All four teams are in the final four that were on the list. So it's, it's dicey at that point in the game. But Yukon is a team, you know, was, say, three and a half weeks ago before the market lost,
they're on the one line. Yeah. You know, like, they're like, and then, you know, they had it, I said, all turn, they just, they were the number one team in the whole NCAA tournament that just need to get out of their conference. With the bulls, I, they have how physical the big East is, knowing the payback that was common with St. John's in a collision course in the big East championship to, to, to, you know, get back at them for the embarrassed, but they gave them
and Hartford. They just need to get out of the tournament. And it was, you know, one of my most dislike things with the bracket. This was seen St. John's in Yukon, two of the only two of
three big East teams. There was a third team that made it, right? Is there a third team in that?
Oh, 13. Was there a 13 max? Was there a 13? I think I was. You guys are the basketball guys here. Was there a 13? All right. Max baseball, I have to say it's wrong. Hofstra, Hofstra did make it. But to see those two teams in the same bracket, I honestly thought that they were going to meet in the lead eight to go to the final four Duke beat St. John's. Yeah, Duke whistle. No, Duke whistle beat St. John's got it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to jump back
something you said about John Scharer. He's been in that position so many times as a player. Does that make it worse for him as a coach? The fact that that he allowed this to happen? I go back and forth. I'm sure it's a rough one. You know, because you look at Tennessee, great story, three elite eight to the year and they get run out of the building by Michigan. And then you have Duke who's, you know, was the one seed put in the toughest region and is right there
“on the cusp, two point lead with ten seconds left. I think that's the art of coaching, right?”
PFT, like you have to hand it off at some point. Like you can only put your guys
in out there in certain situations. I think they would take that scenario back in a second.
If that's what you got to do to go to the final four, they would take it. So I feel like the difference there. There's like Tennessee over at Chief, big time, Duke under Chief, big time. Yeah, that's the expectation thing. And I get it. Everybody wants a championship or the season sucks. Like the Brasca basketball. I know it's not in the same tier, but like they
Lose to a rival in Iowa, but they made, you know, they won their first two
NCAA tournament games of all time. Good season. I'm not saying it's a successful season for Duke,
“but that's how hard it is to win, man. And when you magnify things down for what you”
count has done, it's absolutely incredible. It is having been in one for care, man. On teams, it's nuts with, and that's all you ask for, right? In the NFL, you're playing all season to getting it, you know, they call it the tournament now, the playoffs. You want that opportunity. And what you kind of has done with the opportunity is it's been unbelievable. And then you look at Duke's opportunities with double digit leads the last two years in a final four in the lead eight.
Uh, it hurts for sure, because you're at that point. You'd put in all the work. You did everything you were supposed to do, and you can't close the door. Uh, but I thought this one was more of Yukon, make it play. Because I go back to watching that the first half. Yeah. The last three 24. Duke
does its score. They're up 19. And if you get that in thing into the 20s, you never know what's
going to happen. Do Yukon's got to change their style, play. They got to, you know, pick up pace and
“all that. And now you're really up against it. But uh, the last three 24, Duke got so I think,”
you know, Psalmist two free throws, and there wasn't too many field goal attempts. But that's sort of weathered to storm. And then in that building, you know it, uh, you guys both know it that the 50 50 fans, which I mean, it's a great basketball area here in DC in a lot of Maryland in Georgetown. In any money that's 50 50, that's not that game is rooting for the underdog in against too. Yeah. So it went from like 60, 40 I would say at the beginning of the game when Duke's
rolling, so I'd definitely 50 50 in the momentum swung it even more. So it, it was a frenzy for sure. And I want to have your back Steve, you, you are right. Um, Duke didn't have a bad year. I know that you are off off social media. So you probably missed it. But I, I listened to a bunch of Duke podcast on Monday morning. And so you probably missed this, but this is from the Duke basketball roundup. And they summed it up perfectly, because you guys did hang banners. So this is the guys.
It was the first time in Duke basketball history that Duke teams won 35 games in consecutive
seasons and back to back years. Folks, how greedy are you? Yeah. Are you really going through a little meant a lost season or something like that? And a year where we won 35 games and hung multiple banners. It was the first time multiple banners. Hardware. And you just came again. I just came again. See, I got one, one more question about this. Because like, you know, the cap played, you did,
“you did win 35 games back back years. How multiple banners, how greedy are you multiple banners?”
Where would this stack in terms of the disappointments of the last like six seasons for Duke basketball? So just to to run it back, there was the loss in the final four against UNC, which was coach K's retirement. There was one season where I Duke didn't even make the NCAA tournament as well. There was a loss against head of seeing the round of 32. The loss against NC State in the elite eight. And then last year the loss in the final four against Houston. So I guess what I'm saying is this
might not even be in the top four. Yeah. And when you're in the tournament that much and you go that far all the time, it's really hard to rank. Still the all-timeer is 95 with Grant Hill, Scotty Thurman and Arkansas making that shot at the end. Yeah, that really hit the losing the Jason kid in 93 for Bobby Hurley, not to go back to the lead eight that one really hurt. So yeah, it's up there. Yeah. When you make it, it's hard to decipher. Yeah, I appreciate you bringing
up all those great times. Yeah. All right, well, friends do. People do forget the time they do, yeah. People forget the time that Duke didn't make the tournament. Yeah. We don't talk about that. Yeah. Who won it that year? That's a fair question, Steve. I'm going to put up a banner. There's a fair question, the very very question. All right, Steve. China. We won. Thank you for, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it.
Well, yeah. No, no, I'm just kidding. Oh, thank you. I want to say something nice. Steve, you know, it suits you. Thanks. That's your spot. You did. He's Steve said how much you can do Duke. I was like, just a little touch. Just a tiny touch. Steve, thank you. You gave, you gave out a very sharp pick at the the start of the tournament on the women's side. You said it was Texas and USC Seth Carolina to make the final four parlay them. It was I believe
minus 125. I got it at. So, thank you, Steve. That was nice. A little rest day. I squirled away from myself. Now I got some bullets ready to fire. I hope a lot of people out there took your advice. I appreciate it. I woke up. I forgot about it, too. I woke up the next morning to some tax of people that put it in. I guess the day they listened. It woke up with a plus body.
So, that's always great to do. But yeah, we're, we're, we're trying. If you listen,
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on something that's the narrative that's going around right now that the National Championship
“is the late game on Saturday night. I think that's so disrespectful to Yukon and Illinois.”
Two teams that absolutely can win this whole thing. And so, I'll start with Yukon. We just talked about him. But just to put it in perspective, because we, we think alike a lot. And we said this, uh, conference championship we're going to be talking about it that Yukon is just,
they get beat up in the Big East. In the Big East, they always have moments the market loss,
all that stuff. Just to put it in perspective in the last four years, Yukon is 56 and 6 in their non-conference. And their losses are one at Allen Field House, tough place to win. The absolute disaster in Maui where they lost three games and it was just a total shit show. And then they lost the National Champions last year by two points in Florida. And this year they lost the Arizona early in the season when they were down a couple of starters. They lost by four. This team when
they get out of the conference is completely different. And so I think that like discounting Yukon in this game and possibly Monday night is crazy to me. How do you think this matchup is with Illinois? Because Illinois is also like they're just so good. They're so big. They do everything. They play great ball. They spread the ball around. King Wagler might be the best bang for a buck freshman we will ever see in the end in college basketball. Yeah. And I made a mistake of going back
and watching the first game when they played guys. It's not even, don't even bother. The Boswell
leads Illinois and scoring 25 points. He handles the whole, the ball, the whole game. Wagler's
“had filed trouble. I think he took three shots in the game. Terrestree was often injury. Yukon was still”
finding themselves, but Yukon Bolt race, the solo ball was making shots. They made three driving play 22 minutes. I think he scored more the Terrestree. So that's a waste of time. Illinois looks like a totally different team now. But to your point then, I totally agree. I'm just, I think we should be fortunate that we are getting Arizona and Michigan to play. Like we're getting that game. And I said before to tournament we need to see like the combination of Arizona, Michigan and
Florida like maybe two games, but like those teams need to see each other. And then the way the the bracket breaks out. We do get Arizona and Michigan in the final four, but I'm totally with you. Illinois, I mean, the two-hour drive, I believe from Japan. You're in Chicago, guys. We know that.
And how orange goes and travels, they'll be, I never doubt Michigan because of the army that they
have as a fan base, but there's going to be a whole hell of a lot of orange there. And then you got
“Yukon, which when I think about it and what makes Hurley in that program so special, they're not”
afraid of a goddamn thing. They go play Russia right now. They don't care where the game is. They're going to show up and play. So I think they're super dangerous. They still have versatility. Demories not healthy at the point car position, but Malachi has got plenty of experience. And he was the guy that finally made a three for Yukon. He was the first guy to make a three for Yukon. Whoever had that in your player props, you're you've cashed in big time. But this, the winner of
Yukon Illinois can for sure win the national championship. The problem is you got to win this one. Yeah. And you mentioned the, you know, the rematch aspect, it doesn't mean anything. You know, Woggler has been unbelievable in what he's done. And I, I think it was Stan Van that was calling his games and talk about the way he decelerates going to the hoop and the way he has size and length and his ball handling. And the overall size, I wasn't saw Illinois play Maryland here.
And I just couldn't believe like starting line of say, come out how big they are. But I look at what Yukon did to Duke in their size. They made guys run off screen. They made the bigs and all that size run on the, and work their asses off on the other side. So I think Yukon does the same thing. I do think Mullins has a lot on him. Like the social media aspect of today's game, a kid from Indiana going back and kid that made this shot. I mean, doing the today's show,
how does he handle that? There's not a better staff to handle that than Dan Hurley's staff. So you have that factor in and solo ball is the guy that, if it looks like there might be a wrist issue. But you know, he's, I think he's under 30% now from three that doesn't bother me. He has plenty of experience. So I like Yukon in the game. Illinois has been the most impressive
Team to me in getting here and what the road was, having to go to Houston and...
you know, everybody's favorite story in Iowa and having a game against them and a rival
from your conference to get to a final four. That road is pretty darn impressive. But the experience of Yukon and what terrorist read is done. We put up a crazy last night on Sports Center. I just was thinking about the top of my head, you know, 31 and 27 against Furman being at the Michigan State Game. You know, Michigan State comes back, takes the lead twice in that game and bull every time after that happens. Hurley calls time out. They run their offensive set. Where does the ball go?
Down in the block, read gets a bucket. He's in the tier of Akima Lajuan and Bill Walden. When it comes to points and rebounds and what you're averaging, and then say tournament,
“that's how special this run has been in the four games that he has played. So there's more”
trust for me in what Yukon does and with that and I believe Yukon wins a really, really close game. I think terrorist reads going to be the big big thing in this because I don't, I think Illinois is going to let him shoot a lot. I think they're going to say, hey, if you don't hit your threes, we're going to be fine and we're going to make sure that you don't hit your threes and get comfortable and Yukon hasn't been hitting threes and be like, hey, terrorist read, you can take 20
shots in this game. We can live with that, especially with the size that Illinois has and on the glass, like they will not let you like pound them on the glass so that it's okay, you know, terrorist read. If he's getting the ball down low, it's not as much terrorist read's been awesome. As long as you can't get a couple shots, you know, he's going to get a lot of his own rebounds. If they stop that, Illinois is just so tough. It's such a great game. It really is.
To your point too, they have so much size where they can just play behind reading and say shoot over us. Right. But he is that, I mean, his footwork is unbelievable. He was the best player on the floor against Duke and watching it, which is so damn impressive. And the other thing what Yukon does is they run all that stuff at the beginning of the shot clock to get you out of position, whether it's true, whether it's a, you know, a backdoor cut, you are out of position to defend different things.
And we haven't really seen those back, you know, that care man made a great with clinging when they run the back to back titles. That stuff's still there. So Illinois has to be buttoned up. But
“to their point, they have been very, very improved defensively. And that's why they've got here.”
They buckled down. Not many team people thought they could go to Houston and win an ugly game. They did that because they made threes as you mentioned. So on the other side, Arizona Michigan, I think everyone's going to be talking about the, the bigs in that and like well Michigan's defense. Well, they be able to stop Arizona's bigs. It's like, that's, that's where I think most people's
eyes are keen on. But from your perspective, who is the most important player? Maybe not the best
player in this game, but the most important one. I think it's car check off for Arizona, because when you look at matchups and who's going to guard who, I really like the idea of Arizona having buries and Bradley to put on Kado. Being here in DC and going to the Duke Michigan game, Duke beat them because they controlled the glass against all that size and Kado couldn't make shots. And now you have two guys that could trade off on guarding Kado. So I think, or I believe Arizona
can frustrate Michigan offensively. And then in car check off, you have a guy. I'm not saying he's going to do it. But he can match size with athleticism against Yax. You know, Linda Borg has been the best player, you know, in the tournament when you look at
“from moments and flashes and animals, alley up throws and he's, I believe he's 69 to 20,”
which is, which is subsized, going up and down the court. But Arizona has a guy, Delorcello's a guy who could come off and make threes. And if it does get tight, my favorite thing about Arizona is they don't care who scores. You know, Colopy had some big baskets while Purdue was making a run. And buries can make threes. Bradley's is good as it gets as far as, you know, having the ball in your hand late in a shot clock and getting a basket. So I favor Arizona and then
to my, my biggest issue is the coaching matchup, I favor Michigan. I think Dusty May has an edge there, bringing FAU to a final four. And then also handling, you know, we talked about expectations earlier. Like FAU had everybody back from that final 14. They didn't even, I don't even think they made the tournament. Yeah. And you have that, but he's had success with Michigan. He's got what he wants in that roster. And both teams are really capable of like a title wave and avalanche in that,
like in the Tennessee game, those at 22 to 0 run in the first half that puts that out. Arizona comes
out in the second half and shuts down Purdue. So both teams get a lot of easy offense off their defense, who, who has the bigger spurt in that. And they're not great three point shooting teams.
Now you're going into a football stadium.
And I hate doing it. And then you'll probably hate even more. I think you got to take the on there. I listen, I'm going to be at the game. Yeah. I can't take an undergrad. I'm a game I'm at,
but I actually have you ever, like, no, you make a list of numbers you've taken in person. Never.
That's a, unbelievable. Start it. Start it. Be fun. Yeah. Never. Go back to indie. You've had great moments there as a fan. I'll go to fuck you. I'll go to, you don't make us go back to what angle did you like the most about the Braille and Mullen shot? What, uh, the, no, I, I'm, I'm so stupid. I'll take like, I'll go to an early season Cubs game at Riggly and see the flags blowing in and I'll be like, over six and a half got to do it. We can, and then watch like a
one nothing game and be like, fuck, every, every ball hit hard, you know, ends up 20 feet from the, from the, from the IV. The, uh, so Michigan, let me, I'm going to push back on you. I kind of like Michigan in this game. Okay. And here's why I just, and maybe this will, this is why the match of so fast thing to me. Michigan is the best team in the country at Rim Denial and letting team score at the rim. They don't let you do it. They just, they have the size to stop you at the rim.
That's where Arizona wants to eat. It's a true best on best and it's kind of like a, it's a
“gamble of which best is going to win. I, I, I think it's, we Michigan's. I don't know.”
I just love the bracket and how we got here with these four teams and we get here and we have a, what, one and a half points bread and a two and a half, two points bread. Yeah, maybe that's one,
that's one and a half, two. Like it's amazing how it all works out. I, uh, Max is in a research guy.
I was going to say, I want to say the last time you caught him was an underdog and the final four was in Detroit and they lost to Michigan State. But anyway, no, they were probably an underdog with Ollie, weren't they? Oh, yeah, that was before. Yeah, it's 24, they'd be Florida. Do you think that Dusty may might be distracted like actively trying to recruit Arizona's players during the game? Good question, PFT. Yeah, really good question. Maybe he's talking to these
guys and he's like, hey, I'll let you get 20 and 10 if you promise that you're going to be a Wolverine next year. Oh, I thought you maybe because he was going to go to North Carolina. Oh, well, that, too.
“Yeah, so he's probably taking the phone calls and outside, but then I think during the game,”
he's going to be like, I need, I need this guy to be a Wolverine next year. You can't doubt him, but how he's gotten guys. Yeah, he's he's he's a plus is in the portal. But that is January, February, is oh, May, May, early. That's yeah, there you go, that's the calendar. Oh, it's early at the end of March. I am excited to see this matchup because I, I don't know, if if Arizona goes down, do you think they try to shoot the ball? You think they try to, like,
catch up trying to hit threes or do they just keep it up and say we're going to pound you on the inside? I think, I think officiating's huge. As to, you know, we've seen Marigot, you know, fouls early in games, a Walker got in foul trouble against Purdue, who has plenty of size, and he's had the biggest guy. He uses his girth to move guys around. So Arizona shoots open threes. I don't think they'll shy away from those. It's just a matter if if you get down, like, you know,
you kind of, if they get down double digits, we've seen that before, they're not going to shy away from anything. Arizona tends to stay with it. You know, I mentioned co-op in that run, making those like 12 footers in the lane. Those are shots you don't see anymore because it's three pointers or dunks. But I don't see either team tents enough because both teams, I think, big cats, a Ken Palm guy. What do you got for Ken Palm on these teams? For what? Michigan's,
what? They got to be top five offense, top defense. They're, they're five offense, one defense. Yeah, what do you got in Arizona? And Arizona is for offense to defense. It couldn't be a better matchup.
And by the way, they're back to the over under. I actually like the under in the first game, too.
Yeah, I wouldn't bet it. But I think that those two teams are going to, like, the trend and step up and they can under. The way you kind of know, Illinois play, they are, they are very
“methodical with their possessions and they're, that's why they're so efficient, especially Illinois.”
So efficient is, they get the best shot and they're not, they're not trying to, you know, making it attract me, they're just going to get great shots. You should just, like, next year, you know, when all those playoff expectations come for the bears, just take all under Caleb Williams. Play a prop. Not win a hit. Win a hit. Win a hit this year. I just say, if he doesn't play well, then you win money, which under under under on Prop. See, I didn't listen, there's a time to take
unders. It's a movie theater. When have you movie unders? You go to a movie theater. You put it. You spray the board on the unders. You'll watch the movie for two hours. You come out and you say,
Oh, I want to lost.
swim any of these out. I have to worry about. It's on games. You don't watch. Yeah, playing. But watching I, I'm with Big Cat on this one, watching a game live. If you're at the game and you took an under on it, that you might as well not go to the game. It's like going to the game be like, well, I'm, I'm signing up to have the worst time ever at this game. Yeah. But you could put yourself at this position where you couldn't win really early. No, but that doesn't matter. No, you can't
win early because with an under, you never know. Like, it's, it's, it's always alive. Like, you can,
“the, the possibility of losing that bet is, is always looming over you. Yeah. Uh, I think the”
chiefs for the last Super Bowl they played in had that under it, which was dead lock and my homes didn't come out of the game and threw touchdown. Oh, so you're saying life's too short to bet the under. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Steve, while we have you here, you're also a football guy. What do you think's going on with Jill and Hertz? You know, I said on Sports Center last time when Scott offered just the idea of Philadelphia and what it brings to the table. I think the medicine
everyone in the world needs, whether you root for the Eagles or you don't, is a four and 13 season for the Eagles. It'll be great for everybody because it'll manage the expectations for
Eagles fans. And then everyone else can remember what it was like back in the day when the Eagles
were not a good football team. So I think that's, that's a great, a great synopsis if they just want to go for in 13 and let everybody else in the NFC East have a piece of the pie and and everybody else that does a root for them, a root for their teams. And, and they, we don't have to, you know, cover every waking second of that football. I'm sick of it. You know, yeah, it's, it's, it's, I mean, and we don't even live there. Right. Yeah. They are the economy, right, Max?
I don't want to keep talking about it all the time. And but they, they're just constantly shoved in my face. And I don't want to keep bringing out the Max because Max has health problems when he talks about the Eagles as his blood pressure. And I don't want to do that to him. So I, I'm just, I agree with you, Steve. I think like everybody just, let's take a step back and let the Eagles do what the Eagles are going to do. Mm-hmm. Leave the
“Max, you should recreate the lead Brittany alone video. And what's the, what's the fly”
of the Eagles ready? I never see him anymore. Get him out of Eagles games. Yeah.
That's him. Yeah. Flyers are fighting for a playoff spot. There we go. Let's go. I'm telling the lamb. I safe. Oh, what do you got for the women's? Do you have a, do you have a bet? It was eight, this is, I'm excited for the women's final four. The tournament has not been great. It's just been buzz off after buzz saw with all these teams. Yeah, just look at the points reds and what they did. And now we actually have points breads in the single digits, uh, which is
mind blowing to me. I have like seven different bets on Yukon and winning it all from the, you know, beginning of the season. I, I got, I, I, I, it was minus, I went and saw him play. They played it in an apolis area. It's Louisville. I think it was first game of the year. Betum, I think it was around minus 190. It got all the way up to 280 I have. And now they're minus 180. And I think that just do that instead of having to worry about laying to six and a half. Okay. Uh, I do like them. Uh, how about a Yukon men's
women's parlay, money line parlay? That could be profitable money. I just don't see anyone touch them. South Carolina is a shoot the ball well enough. I think Texas and UCLA are going to have a battle. Texas beat UCLA that UCLA's only lost. But I just don't think they had the winner of that game has enough to keep up with, uh, Yukon offensively. Um, you know, Yukon, the Elite eight got strong in AZ food taken away in the role player stepped up. It's just what Gino does. He grooms these players.
Uh, for these kind of moments, um, I love this press cover, talking about the, the atrocity that tournament is having to come to immediate 7 a.m. in the morning and have a shoot around at 7 p.m. Uh, they went from Fort Worth right to Arizona. So you got to assume they're locked in and uh, uh, I just, I don't like the matchups, right? Like as we see the tournament, the matchups, uh, for Yukon, I don't like any further opposing team. And I trust Gino in this scenario. I think,
uh, Sarah strong in AZ footer, that good. And I believe they cut the nest out. Are you going to be taking any hunters at these games? I was actually thinking about the Texas UCLA under. Yeah. You're disgusting. Familiarity, um, with that. And, uh, you know, those teams see each
“other and, you know, defend in a three point line. That's what you got to do when you're rooting”
for that under. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. Steve. I got one last question for you. It's a rowback question. Are H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off for purchase. No, it's a good one. Rowback dot com promo code take. We made the bet before before the tournament that if Duke wanted all you'd come to Max's bachelor party, is it? Is there a chance you could still come to Max's bachelor party? Yeah. Okay. Due to the year, that's why it's due to the year. Be great.
Get. Could I be, uh, the number one. Okay. That'd be our one one pick. We can go through some contract negotiation. Okay. Listen. Well, you got to do a show up. Everything's paid for. Yes,
If you'll be, you'd be first overall out of the list of invites.
phantom. Phantom on one or something like that. Yeah, phantom will nerd. Well, he's good. It's a package deal.
“I got the top of the eye. I have an invited Scotch. I invite Scotch. There's zero. He's a big fan of”
Max's after the Maryland Philadelphia discussion. Oh, you say. I just said what I was feeling. That's all I did. I understand. I understand. You got to understand something about Scotch's moments. Yes, Steve knows this obviously better than anyone. Scotch has built his literally like a jet and jekyll and hide when it comes to like the the the part that you see and the nice he's the nicest guy in the world like such a good friend. But when Maryland basketball comes up, you don't want to be anywhere near
him. Like don't you admit that? Don't you? It's not funny to him when you bust his balls. There are
no jokes about Maryland basketball. I agree. I don't think it's funny when you guys bust my balls
every single day. Yeah, the difference the rest of the world begs to differ. Yeah, but I don't find it funny. But we know it's funny. It's hysterical. It's not in the seat. If you see Scott at a gust of this week when he's got the suit on and he's all like don't bring up Maryland. No, don't. And we'll have them on the show after after the master's as a tradition. Max, you can you can invite him face to face. Yeah, I have nothing bad to say about Maryland basketball. Yeah, that's my whole
school's coach. I feel it. I'm not sorry that I stole his coach. I just said that I don't think about Maryland basketball. And that's all I was saying. All right, I'm going to I'm going to face some right now. Let's see if I'll answer. Because I'm like imagine if we, you know, what is also can't hear me because I'm in the. Yeah, that one is the same work. Yeah. All right, we'll see if we'll see if we'll see. I imagine. When he said Butler's cabin, that's a perfect place. Yeah,
yeah, but imagine like because there is the, you know, everyone's been in this spot where you over invite and then if everyone says yes, what have Scott and Kevin Willard are just sharing a cabin on Saturn, tops off just having some drinks at the point. That could be good. Yeah, when I could be good. Yeah, men fences. I like that. I like that idea. Maybe we could find some unity between Maryland and Kevin Willard. Yeah, Steve, one last last question you mentioned earlier
before we start taping, you might have a draft nugget for me. So I guess you're an insider now. Oh, no. Oh, you guys are inspired. I was just doing some all work around here down here in a district, you know, what do we 400 days away from having the draft here? Yeah. But for this year's draft, who do you want the commanders to get at seven? All right. So I think that if the physical and the medical checkout, which is a big issue, if I don't have access to any of that information,
Caleb Downs, I think I think he might be the best player. I think he might be the best player. I think he might be the best player in the entire draft. It's just about like, do you want to spend that pick on a safety number one and then number two is he healthy medically? And then I've heard a lot of
smoke about love recently that if love is available, that's what I wanted to get to love is always
“available. Yeah, just remember that. Keep an open heart. I didn't like that Caleb Downs didn't run”
a 40. I'll just say that. Oh, anywhere. I did not. I don't like that as a safety like just run it. I mean, they say they say the the field they run on at proday at Ohio State's 39 yards too. So you're going to have a good time. I mean, I see enough of him playing football that I know he's fast and shit. Like I'm not worried about his speed. Okay. Uh, as far as the running back goes, the last running back drafted in the top 10 to win a Super Bowl with that team is to last running back drafted in the top 10 to win a
Super Bowl with Washington team obviously are with that team and with the team that they that they picked after them. Yeah, I don't know. It's like Reggie Bush, but he didn't lead that team in rushing that year. Thomas led the Saints that year. And so you go back even farther. It's Jamal Lewis with the Ravens. Wow. Wow. Wow. So that's what scares me about Jeremiah love because I hate to admit it, but we kind of lead a not need a lot of pieces on the on the roster here. Well, that's the thing.
Yeah, if you drafted running back top 10 as a team that's not one piece away and a running back
“is one piece away. I think Jeremiah love is incredible. Mm-hmm. And I think you guys like Zicul Elliot was”
one. Yeah. Todd Groely was one. Obviously Barclay James teams, McCaffrey James teams. So it's just something just something while you're watching it. Are you guys going to the draft? No. No. No. Ah. Remember when you used to go to the draft? It's not that great. The problem with the draft is it's made for TV and it also like and Friday and Saturday are wave are way more fun as a fan. Yeah. And you can't like no one's going to do an interview right before their biggest night.
Yeah.
aren't there. So like would you guys go to the draft if you were getting drafted? Yeah.
If I would. If you go fishing with my dad and what would the top top? Yeah. Yeah.
“So if it was some styles would I go? If you were sunny styles would you go to the draft?”
Yeah. If I was sunny styles I would try to be on camera as much as possible with my shirt off. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What if you were tie Simpson? Yes. No. No. I would tie Simpson. That's a big like when is this guy going to get picked possibility? No. But I would. Here's why I would if I were tie Simpson. One or Lovsky has been doing a great job of boosting up tie Simpson and also we're going to have tie Simpson on in a couple weeks. So as soon as he comes on PMT look what we did for Josh Allen.
Tie Simpson top 10 pick might want to bet it right now before he comes on PMT. That's insider trading.
That is insider trading. I think I'm excited that Pittsburgh gave all the kids in town the day off
school. I think that's great. It's like yeah the NFL's in town. So the schools are going to be a thing. Don't worry about that. I respect their respect for the game of football. But I'm not going to go to the draft anymore. I don't take it. It's just like there's it's so it's so much better on TV and it's not even that good on TV. Wow. So you're saying you could be better. I'm saying it. Well, yeah. I mean the draft is like essentially they call names and then you get excited about
“the name that you hear for your team. You don't muggle around the desk. Is that where you're saying?”
I'm just saying like the the spectacle of the draft is not I don't love watching it. I love finding out the information from the draft as it happens. But like I don't know that you can make that must watch TV endeavor. They did cut down the time in between picks. So that's good. They did it. Yeah. Bad news for the Vikings. I think we're going to do draft in the middle TV and then we'll have just you can do last 10 seconds on replay on both sides. Steve, I'm not joking. We sat in the
gambling cave. We we we watch it like seven times. I bet you did. Yeah. It was so good. I'm coming to charge that remote to keep reminding. I think it was unanimous. Yeah. I think you actually did it because
I that I always wonder about the games because I tune in. Like I said, I was not tuning in after
that game. But you guys had two separate cave like one New York and one Chicago. No, we just said the one here. I just we just have a guy who actually was probably I think it's been my system. Dom has been remote guy all all the marks. He's done a good job. So he just has him in his hands. Do you do you know what we did to Steve is because of the stupid, you know, first two rounds the scores are ahead. We put. Yes. We taped the TVs this. Love it. Great job. Dom taped all the TVs for us.
That's a hell of a job because you had I got when I was at home the off-nights are not being at the games. I had to put the game that was first on the direct cable. Yeah. TV. But then that game
“sped up the the second game that started. I think it was Iowa Nebraska sped up. They were”
literally at the same time of the game in each. So yeah, you had to not look at the top of the screen great job by Dom getting the tape up there. Yeah. It just seemed like the easiest thing for them to fix. Yeah. It's makes no sense. Yeah. There's I can write a book on how we can fix the tournament. Yeah. It could be so much better. Okay. Steve, you're the best. Enjoy the final four in Arizona. I'm so we want to chase you said hi. Yes. Yeah. Please do. Yes. Yeah. Are you going?
I believe so. You know, three kids under 12. I didn't feel like chase these best. A great spot to go. That's fine. Get the medium. Get the spicy and then get the the works. I'm just going to get like a variety and I'm just going to call that to Titus. Yeah. Cracked the window. Leave them in the car. It's not that hot in Arizona. Yeah. I'll be right back. I'm going to eat 30 wigs. Oh, imagine Steve. Yeah. He just leaves the car on with the AC. It's got the sign that people
put for their dogs. Like don't worry. These three little girls have air conditioning. I'm just inside eating the board. And an ass. Oh, all right. You didn't go to rig leave for that Angel's game. Did you that was 10 degrees? I know. No. Oh my god. That looked cold. The fact that we had to play five games in March in Chicago is the scheduling making makes no sense every year. Majorally baseball every year. Majorally baseball. Opening day should be literally today.
That's when it should have been. It shouldn't have been last week. It just felt off. It should be right before the final four. So, all right Steve, you're the best. Enjoy your trip. Appreciate you guys. See Steve. Stay in for Steve's brought to you by Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game.
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Always. Always. Always. Yes. Nice sweatpants. Thanks. Going to strip club later.
What? It was a call back to our inside joke about Shane showing up to the bar on Friday with
“sweatpants on. He said he was on a strip club. Yeah, it does exactly the same. The gray ones?”
It was like anything looked exactly like. You were gray sweatpants to a strip club. You were a brave man. I know Shane is wrong as I said. He's so bad. This is not. This is not. I'm not. You fixing it bolted. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't. I don't think he ended up going, but he did show up to the bar. No, he went home and got changed. Yeah. It was the top one. It was the top one for Shane. He had the exact same sweatpants on.
And he's like, yeah, I'm thinking maybe we'll go to strip club tonight and we always like in gray sweatpants. I would not have brought this up. I don't like to be the one to expose the boys. I want to brought it up unless there's topical. We did. We did also. I took the boys there being people. He's out to dinner on Wednesday and he just came nowhere and sweatpants. I was like, I don't think you can wear those. He's like, I didn't bring any other pants.
He didn't. I don't know what happened. He's like, for 5th time. That's after not a trip. It's like, you got me mad. I was like, I don't like, you can try. I just don't want you to get turned away. Right. And then he kind of was like, I didn't bring other pants. I was like, why? I'm staying up for Shane. sweatpants are they're comfortable. But if you're packing for a trip, you got to, yeah, you got to hang it. At least you're also a crazy outfit guy, too. That's not necessarily
true all the time. But yeah, that's all right. I've always packed one pair of jeans at least.
“That's what you got to have one pair of jeans. Yeah. Next year on spring break, we got to get”
you got to get Shane. You might not listen to them. Sorry about your friend. What's up? Did I tell the story about your friend? No, not the world. Yeah, yeah. I was 15. It was two buddies from my high school. Yeah. And the same thing we were going to dinner and his buddy from high school was wearing red capitals sweatpants in a Washington commander's t-shirt. And his other buddies, like, dude, you can't wear that to dinner. And I was like, this is, this is where you get it from.
People are like, yeah, come on, man. Like, I've got to at least wear some nice clothes. Yeah, come on. Yeah, take off those washing capitals comfy sweatpants. No, who gets dressed up like that? It's like 50, literally basically what you're wearing right now. I don't know what pants you're wearing. Yeah, no, he, yeah, 99% of his shit is like team issued gear. But yeah, listen, I get a chain like you want to be comfy. But like, don't do a strip club in sweatpants. That's kind of wild.
“That's that's a wild one. I almost could Chris, I think black sweatpants. Yeah,”
say dark sweatpants. And, but great sweatpants. We, you know what, around shoved up with, you know what? Instead of doing like matching shirts for Max Max's bachelor party, we should get matching gray sweatpants for strip club night. No, thank you. Get juicy right across the ass. Yeah. All right. No, I am. I am dressed up, just casual. I'm sick. I've got a, do you actually are sick? I've sneezed. Oh, I don't know what's allergies. Like, I don't, I'm not allergies. I'm not
allergies. I'm not allergies. I'm not allergies. I'm not allergies. I've never had allergies in my life. So,
why would you say, I don't know what's allergy? I have sneezed rough estimate like a hundred times in the past day and a half. I can't stand Max does it, did this a couple weeks ago. Remember, you're sick? Yeah, it was one day. Yeah, you were like, oh, it's allergies. Like, no, it's not. It could have been allergies. But allergy people use it as a fucking, they're sick. And also, how could it be allergies? You still, none of the, no, it's changing seasons. But none of the
trees are starting at night. It was nice on Monday. That's the thing. It was nice on Monday. Thursday was warm. I got cold. Maybe some, I don't know. But how do you get allergies? It's going to change our body. Any time the weather circulates, like 25 degrees or 30 degrees
Back and forth.
spectallers called night and day. I'm not blame the allergies. I don't typically get, you don't have
“allergies any. That's why you can't blame it. You're sick. But I just, yeah, I have some type of bug”
that has caused me to sneeze and like not sneeze once. It's like when I sneeze, I sneeze like six times a row and I've had like your sick. That's three hours or so. You're sick. You're describing, having a cold. Yeah. So I, I got a cold. Is that your first? My fire. It's a really good fire. That's a really good fire. Well, like you guys know when I sneeze, it's like it's violent. Yeah. It's worse than you thought. I mean, I was doing friends at that and he was like, what the
fuck is wrong with you? And it's like, there's nothing, well, I mean, we've said this before, but there's nothing worse than, like sneezing is like the worst thing that can happen to you. Sometimes feels good. I like to sneeze. But what if you, when you sneeze and you don't have like a tissue or napkin, it's not rocket and you're in front of someone and you just have to like sneeze, but then if you sneeze and you're sweatshirt, it's like, oh, I hope I, I hold it in if I don't have some.
Yeah. I'll, I'll just straight up like plug my nose. You guys know how my sazer way too powerful
“for that. You can't plug up like my brain. I think it would explode if I tried to, to hold in that”
power. Do you guys not rocket? No. No. I love not rocket outside. It's great. I really have, oh, I have that my arsenal. Oh, it's, it's awesome. I'll miss it. Like, it's called on your face. I got a really blow. Yeah, I really got to let it have it. Yeah, blow. All right, 50. Feel better, Hank. You feel better. We're all rooting for you. Thanks. Get well soon. Appreciate it. Um, my pretty good week for me this week. I did forget a birthday on April 1st. I thought it was
worse. Um, I thought I forgot my dog Blake's birthday. But I got mixed up. It was actually Lee Roy's birthday on April 1st. So happy retroactive birthday to Lee Roy, my dead dog. And then I also, I was actually just talking to Zach about this the day and before we came in here today, I decided that right now, if you've been watching the bar stool, state farm, basketball league that we've done, which has been a great series. I did, uh, I pulled my calf on the first day of warm ups
and the first day of the games. And so I haven't really been able to exercise since then. And then when I started to rehab on my calf, I pulled my other calf trying to exercise that. So I haven't been able to run and I'm, I'm worried that I'm going to get really, really out of shape even more so that I am right now. So I decided that I would just start walking. I'm, I'm taking a page out of Frank that tanks inspirational journey. And I'm going to try to get as many steps as I can.
One way to do that is with those, like, little walking pads. And I told, uh, I told the fellas I was going to get one. And then your assistant Dom said we actually have some,
that's been an order that has never been used. I was like, okay, let's get it set up. So Zach
reminded me that I'm going to get it set up. The rule I came up for myself with is if I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling. Oh. So I'm not going to let myself just mindlessly scroll through my phone. Right. Unless I'm on the walking pad. And I feel like that's going to, my steps, they should be like easy 10,000 a day, 12,000 a day. Like I get check emails and stuff, but if I'm, if I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. And, uh, but it's in your crying. It's really just start to, uh, to
occur to me how much scrolling that's going to be a lot of trouble. Like how many steps yesterday? Uh, yesterday 8,000 steps 8,000. I forget the exact. We're scrolling. I was scrolling for a little bit, but I haven't got the pads set up. I just, I scrolled on my own, but I also, we did sit down and watch the baseball game yesterday for a little bit. Um, and I was on my phone for that. But yeah, that's, if you look at your screen time, just imagine if you took every second, you're on your phone,
and you were walking somewhere. I feel like that's a great, crazy, great diet. Yeah. I like it. I'll try it. I'll get a couple pads set up like randomly around the up. You're, you're scrolling,
“you're scrolling. I'm trying to make the video right now. A compilation, uh, I think I literally”
didn't make a single shot in three games of the partial basketball season. Yeah, but yeah, that great block on max. I did have that. And also you don't take it that seriously. No, right, so it doesn't matter. You made that leg up against Katie. I did make that leg up, you shit yourself. I made the leg up. Yeah. You shit yourself? Well, I mean, I didn't like bail out. I didn't pretend I was ready to go and then take an injury like right when it started to
attempt to play. So at least I had that guy. At least I had that guy. At least I had that guy going for me. This is good. Actually, this is progress because yesterday, Hank told me that I was just
retired from all sports. Yeah, I always saw anything because I go, I just, I'm not going to say it,
because I support you. I know what you're saying. I would say it. Say it. I support you. I don't, I don't want this to come, but I don't want us to call for less. Just say it. He's injured a lot. This last year's been bad. You never injured for golf. That's. Yeah, I didn't say that. Max said
That.
during the Ryder Cup last year. Yeah, but you play. Yeah, play through it. Right. But here's, okay,
here's what it comes down. You're in a wheelchair. Literally. Yeah. I was literally in a wheelchair.
With the, with the calves, both being pulled at the same time. And I told you guys, like, a year ago, I was like golfing well. So it's like, I don't, I think whatever you got going on at this work. I think I said this on the show, like a year ago, for some reason in the mornings when I wake up, both my calves have been super tight. That was like a year ago. I started to notice it. Then I pulled one like four times. Then I pulled the other one when I was trying to recover
from the first one. I'm definitely afraid that unless I do like monthsworth of physical therapy, that is going to be the Achilles. So what? Why was you physical therapy? I haven't done that.
Oh, you had you been going to a physical therapy? I went to one physical therapist. I got the
“exercises. And then I'm doing those on my own. That's how physical therapy works usually. I think”
if you're actually afraid you should go see the physical therapists like two or three times a week. Well, I went to the physical therapist, and they said, "Here are the exercises you can do." And then I'm doing all those exercises. But yeah, you're, you go to the physical therapist once a week, and then you do those on your own, throughout the week, and then go back. I'm not going to go back, though. Yeah, you're just, you're just, you're just, you may well just look on YouTube. Like, how do I do
correct? I got this, which I might have done. Yeah. Yeah, there's, did you actually shift physical therapy? No. I just looked at it. I did it. I did it on YouTube. Like, I had an appointment. No, it's therapist on YouTube. This is the part with injuries. Like, I mean, I do the same thing as you, where I was like, I think I got, when I hurt my calf, you did do the same. Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying. I hurt my calf, but I know that it won't. I know that I'm going to, I should be going to a physical therapist. When I hurt my back, when I threw it my back, I went to a physical therapist three times a week for like two months. That was the only way. I got better.
You can't get better unless you just go. I do have an appointment. I, I fully understand, I fuck. I did the exact same thing of just not going. I do have an appointment that I didn't go. Next Tuesday morning. I have an appointment with, with the back doctor. Okay. So that's locked in. And then I'm doing the physical therapy that I got from the doctor that I basically saw online. And I've been doing those exercise. And I'm walking. But I know that if I play in the soccer thing, it's like, this would be a bad time to pop the Achilles. The group. Yeah.
“The group. Very good time. And I don't think it's a good time. There's not, never a good time. But I, and I think the fact that I'm thinking about it,”
makes it more likely that it's going to happen. So I got to get the calves back being strong again. And then I can do your little soccer tournament tank. By the way, do you speak to the doctors? If you guys ever seen a dermatologist? No, my wife signed me up for that. I don't fucking want to go. You got to get them. You got good skin. I know. But they're going to be like, they're probably going to be like, don't go in the center or something. I still got to find a primary care doctor. I haven't had one. He's good.
I got one. He's good. He's good. He's a nerd. Like big time nerd. Good. We need it. Yeah. That's, I want my, he's the one who was like, what do you do? Like, remember I told the story that he, he asked, like, how many drinks I have a week? And I was like, I actually don't really drink. And then I caught myself. I was like, put I used to like get fucked up. Because I was like, I don't want to look like a loser. He's like, yeah, I don't why are you telling me this. He was very honest with me. It's good. It's like, I don't care.
“All right. My firefresh rate for this Hank. Yeah. It is true firefresh. So last week we went”
down to Scottsdale. Awesome trip. We're going to do it again next year. It was great time. So like, I was with my kids for 90% of the trip. Then we did the show. And then on Friday, I played nine holes with PFT in my friend. I enjoyed golfing on Friday. He did. He really did. I'm scared. We had a really good time. I actually enjoyed golfing. And that is my firefresh. It's a fun sport. Like, we had a, it would be my good, good friend. And we had a, very good. We had a blast.
It sucks. We had such a good time. I feel bad even saying this. But since you, you brought it up in the firefresh, we started playing some holes in the back nine. Yes. As the, as the college basketball games were setting off. I said it. I said to PFT has like P, Hank would fucking, because I had the,
I had the game out. I was watching it. Yeah. We were worried about the first five minutes to say
John's dude because I was like, if Hank saw this, he would fucking, he would be killing me. No, see, I'm, I'm, I'm supportive. Nothing but support. Appreciate. This is, yeah, this is Hank's. There's a stream. The fact that I was playing golfing enjoyed it is his dream. It's his last infinity stone. Maybe you take me out golfing. I actually asked him to golf tomorrow. Yeah. But we're not out of schedule. No, yeah, because I have to go to Indy. But I was like, hey, maybe we'll find a,
in my stupid brain. I was like, we'll find a course like halfway to Indianapolis. Let's do it. Just stop on the way. Yeah. Let's do it. Um, okay. Zach. My professor's week is, uh, I think
People on the internet might just be too in on grammar, too in on spelling.
unfortunately. Spell protein. Well, we, we did this PROT, all I have is PROTTI any. I don't know.
I don't have the other one. But wait. PROTTI any? Yes. Which is not correct. We just did this at the
“desk. That's not right. But I, I don't, I don't have the other spelling. Why are people attacking you?”
It was, this is what happened. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean you don't have the other spelling on you? So I got to correct one. Matt, let Max t this story. Okay. Go ahead, Max. So we're sitting back here this morning. Zach shows me a bunch of replies to a comment that he had on Instagram. It was Gary Brecker. Ted X did it. Yep. He did a video of himself throwing out a bunch of McDonald's being like, you don't need this. And Zach was like, I'm getting roasted by fitness
people online right now because I said, what a waste to this guy throwing out all these McDonald's. And it's bullshit. It's like, everyone's roasting me because it's all just fitness guys. Meems pulls up the actual comment. And he says, SMH, what a waste. But spell it. It W-A-I-S-T.
So no one is roasting him. First fitness. They are roasting him because he spelled it W-A-I-S-T.
The seed oil guys in the hydrogen and water guys were coming after me. And I just thought it was via them being fitness-pilled. They knew waste was waste. That's one of the things I don't understand was spelling his or grant grammars. What are you trying to say? You're trying to smash when they read that. Can I see some of the replies? They actually don't because in this scenario, you could be talking about, yeah, waste is waste. It could be great compliment. Those are two different things. Yeah,
“you should, you could be saying, oh, wow, what a waste on Gary Brecker. That's a good point. Never mind.”
It sounds like I'm hitting on him now. They're commenting. That's waste. I'm throwing out the McDonald's. That didn't click. Damn. It is a double answer. You actually sneaky made a great joke. Oh, no. These people are being very mean to you. Yeah, they are. I just don't understand the they're perfect. Oh, I love this guy saying 10, 10 rage mate. Like you did this on purpose. I wouldn't felt good, but I didn't have the, I didn't have the courage to reply to him. Like it was
not on purpose. Yeah, that was actually totally true. It was already a man. They are fitness pill. They're a big time fitness pill. You got a bunch of red light guys just going in on grammar. Yeah, some of these guys are crazy, man. They're just, like, oh, yeah, alcohol is actually, no, I saw that, that, that, I think it was Grand Card on 10x. He was like, there's no good benefits alcohol. It's like, okay, yeah, there is. What about, like, hanging out with friends in college and
partying and having a good time and like being able to talk to chicks. What about, what about getting drunk? Yeah, what about having a nice twist to see on a backyard. No July. Yeah,
“fucking sick. Great time. There's a lot of benefits. Love it. Good show. Hey, are you guys streaming?”
Is that take the floor? Yeah, we're going to be streaming on Friday. What are you streaming? I mean, I'm actually going to play the rewind game. We're going to build a dynasty of, uh, VHS dynasty. We're going to play retro. We rewind. You're, you're opening a, we're opening a video store virtually. And we're going to start, start this right after the act. We're going to go for a couple of hours. This is,
this is the first week of the weekly Zach streams. I'm going to join them tomorrow. We're going to do it together.
It's going to be fun. Zach, hop in the PMT YouTube chat. Sorry for, uh, probably nothing the next two weeks. But after that, we still got to win with Oregon. We got, that's, we still owe a national title with Oregon. It slipped away. It was right there. It's finger tips. I also just was playing the fall guys before we did the show because it was up already on the computer and I got to the final round and it said the graphics were updated for the final round and booted me. Oh, that's a problem. Yeah.
Shayne, are you wearing sweatpants? Shayne, can you carry on with the headphones? I think he's bad. He's not. Well, Shayne put the cans on. Yeah, he rolled this. I, I rolled this. I rolled that he just did. I know the second to go up right up is what he did. Shayne, are you wearing a sweater? You're mad at us? I'm wearing a sweater. Are you mad at us? Nothing's sacred anymore. The fuck credit to me. I said I didn't want to do this and I wasn't going to do it.
Correct to me. I didn't want to get go. Yeah, you, you, you were having fun with it on Friday night. I mean, you thought it was funny and then you didn't think it was funny. Yeah. I didn't think it was funny. But then we got it. Yeah, we got it. It's here for Sue. The Timmer Sue was awesome. No, no, you were very like the move to get me. I don't know. I don't need, I don't need a pity. Thank you. No, but I don't know if you did want for me. Do you want me to be legit with my reviews or do you want me?
I agree. I agree with that. Yes, I do. But don't say you enjoyed the Timmer Sue. I enjoyed the move, but like, I could just say there's a terrible order. Yeah. I just, I want to be 100% real with these.
I can't be a joke here.
Shane, for the Timmer Sue crawl, we will all wear sweatpants. I was going to anywhere.
“Yeah, we will all wear the same gray sweatpants. And we probably will be going to night restaurants.”
Yeah. Let's do it. Right. We finished Timmer Sue crawl with the strip club. As you all just puking up terms, they got a lot of lady fingers at the strip club. Oh, yeah. All right. Good show, boys. Let's finish it off with a numbers 23, three, 16 because Max home was just missed a birdie on the 16. 16. I'm going to go with 90.
56. 90. 19. 10. Max home is 69. Every 10. Super 10. 99. Oh, it's when you're at an imaginary bed in the living
where we were last week. He's a Italian. I got 10 last week and some one asked if I was on the peptide
“tan. Oh, yeah. Which is an awesome compliment. Did you see that guy's that guy's video?”
What guy? The peptide tan guy? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Someone sent it to me and it was actually spider spider sent this. It looked like it was like, I know you're taking peptides. You looked really tan this week. Is are you on the peptide? It looked like that picture. Hey. 35. And he won anyone. Anyone. Anyone. Anyone. Gone spread my way. 23.
56. 69. Same number. Same thing. It's my chance. It's got the show. It's got it. 73. 73. 70's of the home. Yeah, lots of three. We just had 73. Yeah. Number's hot. The hottest in the world. Happy birthday to recurring guests of part of my take. Frank Minsky and Eric Andre. Oh, love guests. Also Brandon Graham. I birthday, Amanda buttons. I'm retracting the brand name. What is Frank's birthday? No,
no happy birthday. What is Frank's birthday? Well, you can't be sure. This is me and memes and segment. Yeah. What is Frank's birthday? Well, me. It's an April. Hey, Brandon Graham. Wait.
“April. Wait. Oh, no. I think I looked up the right. It's it's Saturday. It's April 4th, right?”
Okay. So it's April 3rd. I know. I know there's shows. It's remarkable how bad you are. April 4th. I think I'm allowed to wish Frank Minsky a happy birthday on Saturday on a Friday episode of part of my take. You're a joke. But I agree. Thank you, memes with Hank. Wait. Well, man, that was good. When is Amanda Bindsburg today?
Third, they were Eddie Murphy and output. Oh, oh. Oh, man. Frank James good all. Oh,
damn good. Yeah, it is it's. It's April 4th. It's not April 3rd. I'm starting out on the day early. Brando. Let. Let me be the first to wish Frank Minsky and Eric Andre happy birthday. Love you guys. Oh, Robin. Adam Scott. Oh, there's a bunch of birthdays today. Adam Scott. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, shit. And Luke McAfrey happy birthday. Luke McAfrey. You already got it.
I don't know. I already got it. I was going. I already was going. All right. Yeah, keep getting happy birthday. Luke McAfrey. Look up the wrong date. I am terrible at this. I'm trying it. All right. We're keeping it. All right. We're keeping it now. Every day I try. I love you guys. [Music] . [Music]
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