Grit Week Continues, Lane Kiffin, Blake Bortles, Wemby’s Incredible Game 1, Knicks Kill The Cavs Plus Hot Seat/Cool Throne

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On today's part of my take presented by Drath King's, grit-week continues. We spent the day at LSU. We have an awesome interview with Lane Kiffin on the show. We also were in Jacksonville on Monday. We did the construction with Blake Portals. And we have him on the show as well. I'll say it right now.

“Maybe we're a interview we've ever done because it was in the back of a 130 degree”

Vanity Woodhead. But we love Blake. So it was still some funny moments because we were dying. That's it. It's 30% gold, 70% gold. Yeah. Yeah. But we love Blake. We have a great vlog coming out on Thursday with Blake. We did some really cool stuff in Jacksonville on Monday.

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with Wemby because we have a lot of Wemby to talk about because what we watched on Monday night or for our case, what we listened to in Vanity Woodhead, which was kind of a fun experience, listening to a basketball game on radio, old school. Wemby, I can't stop thinking about Wemby, but then Jail and Brunson happened and the next eliminated a 20 was a 20 point fourth quarter deficit. Essentially at the hands of Jail and Brunson cooking, frying, grilling, chopping,

hunting, hunting. He was hunting, killing, whatever you want to put him on skates, James Harden and shaved him. And the next are now up 1-0 and I don't, I don't want to say a series is over after one game. Seriously, you can't lose that game if you're the Cavaliers. Seriously, over when it went into overtime, we said the Cavs have to win this. This is must when you can't give this up all-time choke. They choked it away. Choked it away. And we should give credit.

You said obviously like Brunson, yes. OG is awesome at defense. Yeah. He had them in hell.

OG's incredible defense. James Harden, I just don't know. He missed a lot of shots and he just got

fried on defense. I don't know if he had another option, but it felt like anything else would work there. And it did feel, this is why Nick's fans deservedly so will die for Jail and Brunson, because he is that type of guy, where when everything feels like it's going to shit and MSG doesn't have that buzz to it. He brings the buzz back and he puts on a performance like that.

“Also shout out Landry Shamet. I think he went three for three for three for three, and one that was”

just impossible to go in. And yeah, memes, Zach, congratulations, game one. I'm going to say it.

losing that game because it was one of those situations where I would always think that the team

that had just played in the game seven two days ago is not going to be up to stuff when it comes to game one. It's like almost an auto loss. We saw it with the sixers. Max talked about it, the scheduled loss. The calves come out and the next look like the team that had played two days ago. They were rusty too much rest. Yeah, too much rest much rest. It took them three quarters to wake up. And then when they woke up, they woke up. So congratulations. The calves had that game.

They were going to steal game one. They were going to be able to go back to Cleveland. You know, splitting the first two games, which I guess they still could do potentially. But you can't lose that game. That was the worst three quarters I've ever watched them play. Like any team in the NBA could be them, like even the wizards. Like they would seem to fit unnecessary. Well, he had hit our

“quote of talking about the wizards. Yeah. Also. I mean, it's memes brought it up. I think you can make”

the argument that AJ debates is he's going to the best possible situation for a rookie. It might not be in the history of the NBA. Well, no, let's just say that whoever it is is going to the best situation in the history of the NBA for a rookie. Yeah, no, it was so bad. I was begging you guys to record that. But then you were being a piece of shit. Yeah, I would like to apologize to you guys.

I also never left my bed. That also on me. Oh, thank you. We're debating what memes was doing.

How he's watching the game. Some people said standing up pacing in front of your TV. I thought you might be in bed. You might be tucked in. It was. So, so the return. I was tucked in. The reason why we're calling memes a piece of shit is we've had one of the longest days. We we were up at five o'clock in the morning to do hot yoga with Lane Kiffin. We played what it felt like it was not yoga, but it wasn't going to get to it with Lane Kiffin. Yeah, that was a fucking lie. Yeah,

“I was fucked up. We played a million sports. We were out in the sun all day. We've been up since”

five. We just wanted to record the pod and memes hit us with when when the cast went up 20. He said, okay, let's record the pod for the love of God. Can we please? That was a way for the wait for point play. Yeah. And then he, we all come down here and memes just didn't come down here. And then the next come all the way back. And then we have over time. So piece of shit, but also congrats. Yeah, I apologize, but I also don't apologize. You don't have such a such a great comeback. Yeah,

you know what? Jambroughts is so good at basketball. I'm gonna name my first kid at Jambroughts. Oh, congrats on being pregnant. Thank you. First name. Jambroughts? Yeah, first, first and last name. Jambroughts. Zach. Jail and Broughts is a ability to just blow by guys when he knows he's got a turn it on. Maybe the most hustle in the entire NBA, what a comeback. Let's go. Love the shit. Yeah, I was hell. Yeah, I've been honest with you guys. I was devastated. I was watching the game

down at the, the, the game on the TV at the bar downstairs. And there's kind of a sad site and then things just start turning around and they started ripping because no shots were falling

“early. Like we, we were a baseball from three early. Yeah, they were two for 19. Yeah, I think”

you got to like four for 24 and I just terrible. I'll be honest, after that first half, I felt like neither team was really impressive at all. Like, even though the calves were winning, they didn't look like they were playing that good. We ran out, we got some ice cream at halftime, just to do you like your ice cream? Is it a brown upside down? I invented the ice cream chaser, which I think you actually do, what you do is not even a chaser, it's just two ice creams, two ice creams. But yeah,

I invented the ice cream chaser, this trip. It's getting a regular large waffle cone and then a small cup that you can just finish yourself off with. Cup travels as a good move. Yeah, two different flavors. You got to go two different flavors. I've been going mint chip, which is like, it's almost like brushing your teeth. I eat the waffle cone and I brush my teeth and mint chip. There's a big movement to keep mint in the bathroom. People that don't like mint chocolate

chip flavored ice cream. I love it. I don't care. Yeah, so good. I, I'm going to eat whatever ice from my wife. You want to mint chip in the bathroom? Yeah, no, no, they're saying they're saying like mint blones and toothpaste to blones, mouthwash. I'm a big mint fan and big cats write. You can use it and lose ice cream flavor there. I mean, yeah, well, it's not the best. That's wrong. Don't yet. Also, they don't have a large flavor. You went too far, Hank. There was no large flavor. It was

a small medium and then best value. That was just their name for large. Yeah. Fantastic consistency

from the place you from today. Yeah, I never really got to never do an ice cream place where

they roll it up like a like Chipotle. You know, the marble top first time. Yeah, Hank was pissed and I was like dude, just wait. And he's like, oh my god, they did it. They made me mint chip. All right. So yeah, back to the game. Cats got to stop doing stupid fouls too. When he had that foul on the OG dry by,

good tonight. No terrible. No. Was I was half a weather? I'm not sure. They've priced out the

everyday next fan like in half a half. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I saw a devil where's Prada. I'm kind of back in on in half way. I regret talking shit about her. Okay. She's very good in that.

“There's a good half way. I'll go see the second one. I think I might. Yeah,”

half to think I might. That's all. Also, you see, like, my, my green pull back a bang. He, he, he almost banged. He double clutched a bang. Yeah. He almost banged the calves. Who was it that shot the last shot in really. Yeah, Samarro. Yeah. He almost banged it and he pulled it back. That's professional. Yeah. He knows what to do that. It's crazy that it, like, that was a, you just can't lose that game. You cannot lose that game if you're, if you're the calves.

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's over. Next and forth. It's jover. Yeah. Okay. The next game. Nope. Zach's telling you to cool down and hang. No, I didn't. He pumped, he pumped the brakes on you. That was more so internally. It came out physically, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't say pumped the brakes. Maybe just like something. All right. So not next and four next and what? Nixon success. We just got a one game. Oh, I like that. Nixon success. The other game was

absolutely incredible. Yeah. We, it's, it's, it's always the best when in sports,

you expect like a great series. And obviously, the series is a lot to go. But you expect two great teams to give you a great game. And somehow, okay, see San Antonio, game one went past that level. And Wendy, I just, I've been thinking about Wendy. I can't stop thinking about Wendy. He is the resource at it. He's the best watch in the NBA right now. It's not even close. I don't think results have the not even close part. But just his entire performance, leaving it like he was so

gasped, that three that looked like we were talking about it. It looked like it was almost like there was a whistle beforehand because it was like in slow motion. It was just incredible. It was just an incredible game and incredible watch. The spurs, the young spurs. Did you see the spurs

starting line up because Darren Fox was out with an injury. So Dylan Harper started.

The spurs starting line up. I think their average age was 22 years old. Yeah. Like full all of them. It's, yeah, here it is. Harper 20, castle 21, self 25, when be 22. And then you want to, you want to hit up your guy, champagne. Pat, would you call him? It's so popular. Yeah, for example, a champion. Yeah, 20. 24. The average age for the, the San Antonio Spurs. It took game one against the defending champions. 22 years old. 346 days. Yeah, that,

that three by Wimbie. I mean, there's no defense for it. There's no possible way to guard it. And if you try to guard them away from the basket, you're going to put like Alscaruso on them, which Alscaruso is playing on the floor. And Alscaruso is a great defender. He's an awesome defender. Also, great three points for the last point. You can't have a guy that's like six, six guarding guy that's seven five. But I don't even, I don't even blame him on that because it's like,

“no, you said that shot was so deep. That's why I'm saying like Wimbie is like, that's how much”

of a problem he is like, you cannot defend him. Then he's hitting those shots. That was a stepshot. It's impossible to stop the guy. And why I do have one bone to pick with memes about that, something that we posted after that shot, he said, Wimbie was or affirming afterwards. Oh, no, dude, that was the coolest moment when he was standing there. Not as spurs teammates were just going crazy for him. That everything that's awesome is

or affirming. That was or affirming. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. No, they also looked at my definition. That's wonderful. With Wimbie standing in front of him, they all look so cute, like little munchkins. It was so, with so fucking awesome. What is your definition? He said by definition, that was or affirming. Yeah, he knew what he was doing. He was standing in front of the bed. He hit it. He hit it. He was the shot. And then he looked at his teammates. It was like,

yeah, no, he looked to the crowd. Then he looked at his teammates. He was like, yeah, I'm the best. And he wanted to capture that moment. That's or affirming. Why don't we have to turn that into something negative? Like, it's not negative. Are you or affirming right now? You're doing the thing. I think memes might. Oh, you're doing a face right now. memes might be or affirming.

“No, or affirming, you're just you're just farming aura. And that's what he did in that moment.”

I don't, it seems like it's negative connotation. I think he just hit the shot and it was an awesome moment. I guess, I don't care about nor affirming. I don't even understand it. It was just cool. Like, the, they looked so cute. Like, going crazy for him. It was cool. I mean, it's just, I can't,

They were doing a good job double-teaming him. When be also was just playing like free safety and being like, hey, let's just let Lou Dort shoot. And that's a tough. When you, when your shots don't fall, that's tough. Can I do a real quick, just rattle off some Wemby stats for you guys? Just because

they're so awesome. Okay. Wemby is the first player with 35 points and 20 rebounds in a conference

finals game since Charles Parkley in 1993, at least 35 points and 20 rebounds. Wemby was the first, the youngest player since Karim with 40 points and 20 rebounds in a playoff game. Wemby had 41 points and 24 rebounds. Only players to reach those numbers in a playoff game. Since 1968, Charles Parkley, a team, a team again, willed and Karim. That's pretty insane company. Wemby also had 24 rebounds. The Thunder Starters had 23.

Insane. Also the Thunder, they're on off with Wemby on and off the floor. When Wemby was off the floor, the Thunder went 10 for 16 from the field. When Wemby was on the floor, they went 16 for 50. It's the Kirkold's very stat that he had at the end of the regular season when he basically was like, if you look at the numbers, whenever Wemby is playing on the court, he basically makes the other team a lesser version of the Brooklyn nets in terms of offensive efficiency. He's that special.

“And I think I'm going to say something. I think I'm starting to feel bad for LeBron because Wemby's”

probably better than LeBron. He probably can have a better career than LeBron. Right after.

There are these moments in the playoffs that you always look at. We'll look back at that

game and be like, that's when Wemby announced himself. Yeah. Like with LeBron, I would say it was probably that series against the pistons where he just said, okay, it's going to be me against all you guys. Yeah. Wemby's scored. Yeah, whatever it was like 20 points in a row. Yeah. This was this was when Wemby was like, okay, I'm a superstar and he was by far the best player on the court. He's probably the best player in the NBA. I would say, here's where I'm at with Wemby.

He has to win a minimum 7 championships. Has to. If he doesn't disappoint me. Okay. Okay. I mean, I think the problem with Wemby is he is 75. So the injury concern, you just hope he stays healthy. He's so much fun to watch. 7 championship tanks. What do you think? That's ridiculous. Okay. What? What? Why would you say that? When you said that, it was like literally made a disgusted face through his hands. That's ridiculous.

7. I mean, that's just a bit right now. Just play a long egg. Oh, yeah. Agreed. Thank you. Okay. Hey, I would love to have Hank just like react to

“everything that we say that's a joke. Just like that's ridiculous. That's what you say that.”

I do, I do kind of like the thundering game, too, because it did feel like the thunder or the spurs. Not that they're happy with, you know, it's only game one, but they emptied the tank. And the thundered do go 10 deep. So like Wemby played so many minutes. He left it all. He was gas. He was just, he was just like throwing the like his body around at the end. So it's crazy. He's in the regular season. They put them on a big time minutes restriction. Like they

were smart. They held him back. And the plan was always going to be get to the playoffs

unleashed Wemby. And then when you do that, then you have the natural question of like can he deal with more minutes? How's his fitness going to be? It doesn't. He's he's in great shape. And he was he like hitting that shot at the very end after all those minutes when he was exhausted. Like I don't know what you can do to stop the guy. No, I don't see how it's possible to stop them. No, he's I mean, he, if he gets a ball anywhere near the remits in, he can, he can, he can dribble,

he can shoot, he can do everything. And then on defense, he just, everyone has to alter their shot. Again, I mean, this, that alone with Wemby off the floor, the thundered were 10 for 16 from the field and with Wemby on the floor, there were 16 for 50. Now, they could probably, if they make some more open threes, they probably, you know, everything looks different. But still, that's just what he does defensively. And I like how he's got like a little

bit of a mean streak in him. Now, it might just be because he's going up against chat. And they've got a great rivalry that's gone back years where they, it looks like they actually don't like each other, which I love. I love seeing those guys go out of like that.

“So that gave him a little bit more motivation. But I guess the only way you can stop the guy”

is like get him in foul trouble. Yeah, besides that, I don't really know what you can do.

of the game at overtime on TV. But we listened to the game in Vanitywood had, I kind of like

listening to a game. You feel, I don't know. I just, you feel locked in. And it's a different experience when you listen to the game on the radio, as opposed to like just listening to like the TV. Yeah. You know, like it, because you can go like YouTube TV and have that play through the stereo. No, we were doing really good. But we're going to the region. We're going the region to be a pro-listen mode. Yep. That's right. And it's all-time horse voice. Yep. Yeah.

The other game we had, it was a great night for great two nights for playoffs. The Canadian's advanced feel terrible for Buffalo. Kind of a soft goal. Yep. Sabers, like the Montreal

jumped out early in the state, felt like the Sabers were the better team for the last two periods.

And that just sucks. Such a for Buffalo. Heart breaking way to lose. Yeah. Yeah. And your one step closer to having to eat two croissants a day. Yeah. Let's move to become a French citizen,

“tonight. I think that the hurricanes, I'm putting some faith in them for the first time.”

I will be rooting for the Carolina hurricanes. Yeah, they're, they're. You're good. Oh. What do you say that, Hank? You're good. They're like the next. The hurricanes are that much better. Well, that's ridiculous. He's, he's doing a page of shit. Yeah, he's doing a bit. Yeah. He's doing a bit back to you. God. I'm so jealous of memes right now. He just Twitter search nicks and has just scroll. It has just been scrolling ever since. Well,

you've been finding. That's the best. It's the best feeling after when you're just, what is every one thing. He can just, he can Twitter search Brunson. Oh, yeah. It's all right. I can get Twitter search hard. You can watch locked on calves. He wasn't locked on calves tomorrow. Yeah. You're going to get some locked on calves. What do you find in, what do you find in memes? Do you tell? The calves have a 99.9% chance of winning this game. Oh, man. That's obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is. It's just so good.

Um, Zach or memes? The great reveal tweet was, uh, I'm deactivating. MGM building a new hotel wing in Las Vegas off tonight. 95% of the money bet at a sports book was on next minus seven and a half tonight. They're down 20 with 729 to go. Oh, they did love that one by 11. Um, by 11. memes or Zach, you can answer this question. So, um, obviously great comeback, but the fact that they were down by so much, are you just completely like wiping that off throwing that off to like,

it was a long layoff. So, we had to knock the rust and then we're, we're good moving four doors. Are any lingering concern with the fact that you guys were down so big in this game? So I would say to that is in sweeping in team, you then get to rest too much rest, mainly the hibernation, and sometimes it takes a bear a little bit to wake up when the bear wakes up. Better watch out. Catcher did. Let's just say it. The catcher did. Like that. You can't lose that game. They called

one time out in the in the 30 to eight run. They just, James Harden got cooked. They're up 20 in the fourth quarter. The next snatch their soul, snatch their heart, it's over. I'm sorry. I mean, what are we talking about? You know that means you know in your heart of hearts, like you can't lose a game when you're up 20 with how much time was left? Eight minutes? Yes. I thought they were, I thought they were going to take out the starters. That was like, that was the vibe that

it was going towards like a minute more. It would have been like take out the starters. Jim Bruts is like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to fucking fry James Harden and we're going to be back

“in this game. Yeah, I think we're good, but the the third quarter defense when they were double”

team in a half court. I don't know what the fuck that was. So we need it. We need to actually make some coaching adjustments and not double team. Leave their three points. You played like shit and you won't sell bad, but it was great basketball game. You weren't about it. It wasn't Wemby. I mean, there's no great basketball game has to have Wemby. Yeah, that's true. It's like a different sport. Yeah. Yeah, it was great ending. Great ending. Great ending, great ending. It's like watching

movie with no boobs. Mm-hmm. Who's all right? Not me. Never. Would you? Are you nervous about

Wemby? No. We have Mr. Robbs. Oh, you have the Wemby stuff. Wait, but Mr. Robbs and why did he not play that much tonight? They were, they were doing hack image. Do you think anyone in the Nick organization is like, hey, dude, just maybe a little loft on the free throws? I think so. I don't know

“why not try on her hand at this. Yeah, just like just like it's not hey, Mitchell, you have to change”

everything. Just just a little arc. Maybe just put, you know what they need to do? Just have a broomstick

NBA that hackshack still works. It's just line drives right at the hoop. It's crazy.

“And you see how important he is when he's out there. Yeah, shit. If you have to. Okay,”

quick, other two stories Jason kid fired. Yep. What? I think that's the only reason I bring it up is I actually think it's probably the best job because you get to coach Cooper Flag. Like that's a, that's a very, that's a, that's a, that's a big time job now. I've, Jason kid, I feel like he's just been placed to place and just had good players. Yeah, and he, he, he, he bought himself a couple years when he figured out that when he wears like thick horn rim glasses, he looks smarter and

everyone was like, maybe this guy's a genius. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Kenny Akinsan said, I like to hold my timeouts. I try to hold them. Good job, dude. Yep. Way to hold your timeouts when they're going on a 38 run and MSG's roof is about to fucking fall off. Yeah. No. How do you say that? I like to hold my timeouts as you, as you lose that lead. And the other one is, we'll discuss this in a later time,

“but we were dead right about the Blazers owner when he didn't buy the t-shirts. Dunden. He,”

he did like a mass firing today that looked like he just went into his spreadsheet and picked like the highest paid employees. There's just like, you're out. So that guy sucks. We're on him. We'll, it'll be a later to be continued. We're on him. Yeah. That guy's a, he was a payday loan king that had a bunch of lawsuits. Yeah. Yeah. Not a good guy. Also, just a quick shout out

to our guy Sawyer at LSU. Yeah. Incredible day. We have so much content we did today. The

Lane Kiffin interview is so awesome. We basically like hung out with Lane Kiffin all day so that by the time we did the interview, it was like, yeah, we just been hanging out all day. And it made the interview even that much better. So, and we did a crawfish point. We did everything. So, he was the hospitality here at LSU was like top top notch and it's a lot because Sawyer, who's an AWL. So, yeah, unbelievable day. Second to none. Also, uh, shout out all the gooders out there.

Oh, yeah, all the gooders. Awesome. One, uh, Joel and bead can grads. You got a chip. What are you, what are you doing, Mames? You guys see Benson is one shape chip today. Yeah. Yep. Fishing. Oh, congrats to him. Yeah. Well, his teammates carried him. No, Max, where are you going to say? Quick. Fuck you, me. Oh. We've also reached the point of great week. Yeah. We're just we're to do you guys see the NFL news. Do tell the owner voted to go from 10 international

games to 11. You fucking pieces. She's crazy. Fuck you, Mames. Max, were you going to say before that? About LSU. No, no, you had somebody say. He was a live. No. No, we're not doing that today. Max,

“were you going to say quick? Nothing. No, you should say something about LSU. It's over. I was”

just saying we have a vlog coming out next week of the day. Okay. And it was a great day. It was seriously one of the, it was also very funny because we had a moment where we had just played a bunch of sports, done hot yoga, like hung out with friends and we did VR. We did the jugs machine, all this shit. And Hank was like, man, this is so much fun. Like just doing all the shit. And I was like, yeah, it is. And then I stopped and was like, wait, we do this every day. Our lives are pretty awesome.

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“during the ceremony. Shout out, Druski, come on the pod. Did he put a lot of makeup on or something?”

Ah, for the way he announced his Jackson Smith, the Jigsaw's name, would give him the offensive player of the year award. Hank, when everyone we were last in LSU and Druski saw you puke at a blackjack table, that didn't happen, but I do remember being here with Druski. There was literally a clip of you and Druski on the sideline, when he's like, oh yeah, I remember you from last night, you were puke on the blackjack table. Yeah, I mean, Druski is a comedian.

That was, that was, that was, if I was, if I was puke on the blackjack table, I would have got kicked out. I did not get kicked out. He looked at you in the video. He goes, you were fucked up. Yeah, you were fucked up, man. It was not what's fucked up. Okay, uh, they, he got his award and on the award it was engraved and it felt defensive player of the year. But that's kind of cool. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald ended his career

with more tackles than drops. People forget that. He probably could have won that award. But with JSN, he, he was offended by it. He's like, you guys still don't respect me. So he's probably going to get a new plaque. And in which case when he does, let me just say that, uh, JSN, we'll take the mislabeled plaque. We are in that business. And we will put it in our, it'll be the only thing in our trophy case of personal sports. We are, well, until we get the civil conflict.

We're for round for now. Yeah. But we are our stopping Florida State yesterday was incredible because we were able to secure the manner that is Florida State number four ranking canceled season, which they actually raised. And we're going to get the Florida State head coach on in a couple weeks. But, uh, yeah, we are, we're fully in on the memorabilia of things that shouldn't be

memorabilia. Banners that should never exist trophies that should never have been printed

and troughs and troughs and pissed troughs. Uh, and then my cool throw. I have a couple. First one, I don't know if we're going to talk about or not. But by the way, with the, uh, the Washington Mystics season attendance record, I've got, uh, I'm in contact with the highest sources. That's interesting because Rico Bosco weirdly, when we got the Florida State Banner didn't say anything like, hey, awesome job, cool banner. He just tweeted to the Washington Mystics banner and said,

I've heard that this is unattainable. Well, it was our treat of hot out say this Rico is not in touch

“with the high level sources that I'm in touch. I think he was a little jealous that we went to a”

basketball facility. Well, you know what, I got, I got a jumpsuit and I was going to give it to Rico, but don't see mouth off. I guess well, I'll just have to let it on fire. He did mouth off. I'll give him mine. Uh, my cool throw and part of my cheesecake. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told that. I would say so. Are we telling this? Are we? Yeah. I'll, I'll tell it because it was, uh, so the Bella check interview everyone should go, uh, watch, listen, incredible interview. I think we all walked away being like,

that was so much fun. Uh, we want to do it again. And quick side note, touch her rich bosses, watch radio is shit. Not me for thank you. Bill, but I'll check. Fuck that one too. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to journalists move. I do know how, how many times you're going to say,

we are not journalists. We will never be journalists, not a single person in this room went to a

we will be open about our bias. We will do softball interviews if we want to. We don't care. We're here to entertain you and make you laugh. That's our job. And we went to the school. We went to clown school. Yeah. Any sort of news or journalism that we actually end up doing is completely bi-accident. Yeah. Like if we ask a question, it's somehow getting news with the answer, but I don't understand whether they're upset with Hank for just being like, thank you. Thank you,

Coach. You're glazing? You arrived on it? Yeah. We've been asking all of that. Do you have a channel? Yes. Yes. Yeah. You break it off? Absolutely. And I do it again. So, back to this story.

So, Bellachek, incredible interview. Awesome time at Chapel Hill. I said it on Monday,

but my good friend Brandon, who was able to who works for Bellachek, was able to get us, you know, there and we got it all coordinated. And it was great because they didn't say like, hey, can't ask this, can't do this. We approached the interview how we wanted to approach it. We did not see George Jordan at all at Chapel Hill. We were kind of upset about that because we'd like say hello to her. On Sunday night, I get a call from Coach Bellachek. This was like right

before the interview is going to go live. And in my head, I'm like, fuck, like he's going to say that he doesn't want us to air it or so we did something wrong. Just thinking of the worst moments, like just being like playing in your head, like something bad is about to happen. We're not going to

be able to air this interview. Why would he want to call like, yeah, at the last. Yeah. What could possibly

this be about? And so he calls me and everyone's in the room. And he just goes, I had a great time. I just wanted to tell you I had a great time. Thank you guys for coming. But just one thing. And I'm like, in my head, like my life flash before I was like, fuck, he's like, it's all going to come crashing down. He's going to be like, don't run this interview. He's like, did you guys promise Jordan cheese steaks last year? And I was like, oh, fuck, we did. We promised her an NIL deal. He's like,

yeah, she said that she wants her cheese steaks. So we got to get her size. So now that's

“priority number one for this podcast. Yes. And she's I think going to be the only NIL athlete”

that we're targeting for the upcoming year. She is our queen. She's number one. We love Jordan. We will die for Jordan. Whatever she needs, she gets. We might even have to name a sandwich after or wrap or like, I don't know, maybe some other maybe a dessert because she's very sweet. So I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to make it work Jordan. And yeah, thank you for holding us accountable. I'm glad that you remembered that. Yeah, I know. I mean, you guys are all in the room.

Where was going through your head? Like, you guys were all freaking out too. I was, yeah, I was expecting like a plug to try and get pulled, which was going to be a weird back and forth because we'd already announced the interview was coming out. Like, I instinctively was assuming the worst. So assuming

the worst, and it was never your bell check. He was just the same. He was like, thank you guys.

That was so much fun. Really appreciate you guys coming. We need to get your Donner cheese steaks. And I was like, yes, we do. That's actually on us. We're fucking scumbags. It was right after we released like the promo video for it. Yes. So like, outlets were starting to pick it up and being like, all right. Oh, Bill Belch, I'm going to be on part of my take tomorrow, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I thought it was like, Oh, he, he isn't liking the amount of attention

that the score goes down. So I was like, we're fucked. Something bad's going to happen. We're going to have to scramble. We're, we're at a bad spot. But we are fucked in a different way because we promised Jordan cheese thing. We did not deliver and Jordan, you can still come on the podcast

“anytime. But yeah, we's, I think that was, I don't know about you guys, but I got a ton of messages”

being like, that was an awesome interview. It feels good to be able to like, every now and then, like, we, we, we've been doing it for so long that we've kind of hit like all of the white whales. There's a few still out there Kevin Grant, but every, yes, big time Kevin Grant, but every now and then when we get one, it's just like, Oh, fuck. Yeah, like this, this is, this is the secret sauce. This feels good. So I think you'll come back on. I hope to do. I have a ton more questions.

I hope so. And yeah, with Jordan, so maybe we could sponsor her, her cheer team. I'm down. Code Black is the name of it. Okay. We could, we could figure something out. Maybe I release this Stel Blue Coffee Black. Code Black sounds like it. Maybe it's a mix of code red and coffee. Yeah. Mountain Dew presents cold black. Oh, code. Coach doesn't like coffee. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. He gets all, he gets all of his energy through football. We'll

such a metal quote. We'll figure that out. And Zach had the question of the day. Yeah. The, the alarm clock thing. People absolutely love that Zach. Yeah. Yeah. He was, uh, he was sitting in, is almost a throne of achievement because the, the trophies were behind him. And their rings were to the right. And it was legitimately like, I don't know. It was very overwhelming.

“And he was, uh, is great interview. Yeah. All right. Are other cool drones?”

I thought I was just jailing Brown. Yeah. He just keeps going out, Steven A Smith,

He's just, he's on the cool throne. He told him to quit. But then Steven A said that he's got,

“he's got dirt. Yeah. He says that fucking, come, release it dude. But then you're going to challenge”

that. Yeah. You think that's true? Yeah. Steven, it's, yeah. I like, I just like the call, like, fuck Steven A, fuck Steven B, fuck Steven C. You Steven C. Just fuck them all. Now Hank, what if Steven A, Steven Coletti or B or C listens to this podcast right now? And it's like, wow, Hank's talking tough. I'm going to release it. And then it blows up the Celtics. That's not going to happen. Okay. All right. So, listen, why get laughed at when I call out the

aliens, you like, don't do that. Don't, don't, don't, don't poke the aliens. You're poking Steven A. Oh. Okay. All right. Well, someone please send this to Steven A. Perk also said that he had some evidence. He had some evidence. Yeah. Perk is a fucking hater. Perk, but they kicked Perk out

of the, the first few years ago. Wow. Well, all of a sudden, better ever said. I'm saying as a Perk

said that he has texts from people around the Celtics organization that keep text and whenever whenever jail and Brown goes live. And there's once he doesn't perk. Okay. Perk alienated himself years ago. All right. Because of his hate of jail and Brown. So you can't fix a lot. He's like, he's, he's dug its feet in the sand and he's keeping those feet. Are you, are you saying he's all right dug in the sand? What if jail and Brown gets traded or are you backing on Perk? No. Okay.

I don't like, I don't dislike Perk, but it's like you do. Yeah. He's been on the outside looking in since whatever was 2022. So Perk in Steven A. Hank's talking mad shit. Yeah. He said be careful what you wish for. He's going out. He's going through the endorsements. He's going into the locker room. He's going to dig. Are you worried about what to come out? Is that a huge deal with Oakley, which was again, Steven A is a big thing. Like you don't want, you sponsors don't like

you. And then it's like he's having this big deal with Oakley. So now worried about what could come out.

No. Okay. All right. Clear the hell on. Yeah. My hot seat is friendship. Yeah. People being best friends. Yeah. Max. Yeah. I had this too.

“AJ Brown, he got married and I think Laguna Gates, you're gonna get you're gonna fall for fake news right now. Oh, this is fake news. I haven't said anything. This is fake news. That was not on my house. I haven't said anything. jail. It's on.”

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't finish. I don't finish. I don't finish. I don't finish. I don't finish. Keep going. Okay, why wasn't jailing jailing her said jail? jail church was not at the wedding. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, well, the first report was that no eagles player. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is everything okay between AJ Brown jailing her? It's because jailing her is was not invited to his wedding and the rumor on the street is that we don't know that. jailing her stock confirmed. What? That he wasn't invited was not confirmed. It's just that he did not attend. Well, the story that he did.

Well, the story that I've read, wait, the story that I read was that jailing her is invited. He was invited to AJ Brown's engagement party, but he decided not to go because it was the night of the Met Gala. And so AJ was then like fine, then you're not coming to my wedding. Last year's Met Gala. Hey, and the engagement party and then a wedding. Yeah, I know. Possibly last year's Met Gala. It also could not be a real story, but the real story is that that AJ Brown did not have his quarterback and his wedding.

Well, AJ Brown is no longer a member of the. That's true. That's true. Not true. Wrong. Don't you think this class if you do that too early, then how he's not going to be able to negotiate?

Yeah. What you're doing right now, you're taking his price. There's so many there's so many suitors out there. Listen, I said the whole thing about us not going to journalism, school or know what journalism is or reading books, but we are all representatives of our respective teams.

“So you, you are now saying that he's not a member of the team, like everyone's been like, Oh, cool. Like how's here's a third rounder?”

He's he's already off the team.

No, it starts with the first.

But not anymore because you just said he's off the team. You just killed all your leverage, dude. They might not even need to trade anything because he said that he's gone. Yeah. I might just be able to pick him up. I'll wave off the street. I'm too tired for this for this bed right now. Well, what you did was, so he is actually on the team.

There's a chance that he's not traded. Oh, my god. He just hit many invoices. There's a chance that he's not traded, Max. So I don't know.

Ideally, I would like my wide receiver to invite my quarterback to his wedding. Do you think he was invited and turned it down? Because we would like to, I'd like to say right now that PTA will not be at Max's wedding. So, shall I make? But I'm going to get on the sea's cool throw.

But I'm getting him a nice present. And we all, we're at his bachelor party. Hmm. So that counts. Which is way better, way better than a wedding.

Hmm. Rude. Very rude. Why? He's a fact.

I mean, thanks. Thanks, Hank.

That was a funny idea.

I turned it down to go to the Met Gala.

I'm going shopping for my clothes for the Met Gala so I can't make it. Okay. Then my cool throne is bit of rivalries. Oh. Bit of rivalries.

So Alk Tras, the tennis player, he's been injured for a while now. And he fired off. Maybe the wildest Instagram story that I've seen in a while in terms of like, for an audience of one person.

“So the rivalry in tennis is Alcatraz Center, right?”

Look at this Instagram post that he just dropped the other day. This is from Alcatraz. He says, I watched the final from home with ice on my wrist. Every time I phone vibrates, it's your name again. Another trophy.

Another Sunday you make history like it's a normal thing. Nine master's trophies already crazy. Sometimes I think you win too much when I'm not there. Tennis feels weird when I'm not looking at you across the net between points. So far.

Towards too quiet without our matches, I miss this feeling.

Walking on court knowing you were on the other side waiting for war. Rehab is hard because my body rest, but my mind still want to chase you. Every match you win make me want to come back faster. Enjoy this moment, really. You deserve everything you were living now.

But don't forget, I'm coming back soon. And I think we both know that the best matches still didn't happen yet. I come back soon. And I hope you were still waiting there. Bob Moss.

Guys want to fuck. This is your love. It's either rivalry. These guys are going to fuck. If they haven't fucked already, they respect each other so much as competitors and as rivals.

They are going to fuck each other. It's not even a question. Like this is a future respect. Yeah, not like I don't think this is gay at all. It would be just like, you know, like I respect you so much.

We've fought so many battles on the court. It's almost like fucking myself. It would be improper for us not to make love. Yeah. I just for the vibes and also like it's pretty much masturbation.

Well, yeah.

And it's basically they're saying we're almost sacrificing our bodies for this rivalry,

but physically and sexually. Yeah. We have to do this.

“In fact, like if we don't do this, I think that's a disgrace to the sport.”

Correct. To the game that we've put so many hours in. Correct. Do you think they would fuck on grass or on clay? Hard court.

Hard court? Yeah. Great. That would get scrappy. But yeah, Carlos Alcatra.

Listen, I like the rivalry because they've given us like the only ten matches that I've cared about within the last five years. I think it just got taken up a notch with this post. Yeah. And it's awesome to know that he's at home watching him.

Like feeling a mix of almost anger that he's not there. But also like intense, intense aeroticism. Yes. Watching him when big time. What do you think, Zach?

Uh, I think it's a competition. They're so competitive that it's like, I'll take your body on the court. And, you know, as two dudes do, as tennis pros, possibly in the bedroom now. Because that was a poem. I felt like a romance novel.

Yeah. Maybe a poem. You know what? They're so evenly matched. An intense, you know, what you call a tie.

Love. How about that? That's good. How about you? To PFT's lowkey snap there.

That's good. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's uncharted territory.

You just start fucking your competitors. Yeah. And also, but also, like, you're fucking your competitor, but he's also fucking you. Yeah. Because that's like so.

Maybe 69. Yeah. So he. [laughter] Okay.

Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. My hot seat is, um, anyone who thought they had plans for life after death in terms of, like, hey, are they going to get cremated?

Are they going to get buried? They're going to get buried because I, I stumbled upon this. Uh, this was a, I found it on Twitter, but it was a, uh, Reddit post about what a guy wants to his wife to do for him after he dies.

“And this is the most metal thing ever that we all, I think we all should agree to this right now.”

So this is, uh, this is the wife writing. She says, my husband has some disturbing requests for after he's passed away. This one is really bizarre. And I'm sorry I had a time. My husband of 12 years has some medical problems recently.

The top who, about end of life plans came up and I asked if he wanted to be buried. He didn't want that nor did he want to be cremated. My husband wants me to have his skull taken from his body and cleaned. Then he wants the skull put on the mantle piece in the living room. The rest of his body he wants sent to one of those places that makes the gems out of

bodies and made into two blue diamonds. He then wants those gems to be put in the eye socket of the skull to look like eyes. Then he can watch the family home and be passed down through generations with the fuck. That's awesome. Imagine, dad just sitting there, skull like on the mantle piece.

I'll phone a shelf.

That's your dad. Yeah.

I, I think you got to do this just to haunt your family.

I respect it. They wouldn't fuck around. He might be a supervillain. Yeah. True, but also pretty badass.

You're like, are you going to deny this man's wishes? I guess you could. You just feel like he's already dead. But what if you like start to get away with stuff? Then like you lose the power that your dad has over you.

Yeah. Like you lose all the fear that you might have. True or like something bad happens. Like I thought you were watching over us, dad. Yeah.

“I think in order to really pull this off first, you have to fake your own death.”

And then do like a dummy head. And then when the kid screws up, then the dad like secretly. Yeah, with a nanny camera. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the bear with a nanny camera. Yeah. And then on creepy way.

And after you're fake dad.

Like in a normal way. Yeah. In a normal way, you got to fake die. Yeah. Move states.

Then implants nanny cam into your old house and watch your kids. But only interjects every now and then. I think it would be like if you are going to die soon. Then you, you're like, I got to move out of the state for a while. Yeah.

And then mess with them. And then when you really die, then the power still stays in your kids. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. My cool throw. And I got to one is we talked about it a little bit on Monday. But more details came out. My cool throw is PCA because people were getting upset because the video came out of him.

Telling the woman the white socks fan to suck his dick. And I have no problem with it. Anyone who has a problem with it doesn't respect rivalries and sports. And like it's also. We've got no weird point where.

I feel like fans feel like they can just say whatever. And then and then if a player says something back like, oh, how could you say that? No, fuck that. If you talk shit to a player in your shot, the players should be able to talk shit back to you. I actually respect that.

I respect a player talking shit back to a fan far more than like the LeBron's or Roy's where they just get fans kicked out. I don't think the PCA. Like I don't think that the two of them, the woman or PCA. Left that exchange still upset at you.

No, I think they left that exchange being like good banter. And again, PCA is a he's a lightning rod type of guy. And that's great for sports. I'm happy he's on the cubs. Other teams fucking hate him, which I, that's fine.

That's great. Like he bothers other people. And like when he doesn't do well, they love to shit on him, which. And then when he does great, I love to praise him. So it's part of sports.

It's part of rivalry part of talking shit. I love it. I think there's no harm, no foul. And I also just think that if you talk, if you are going to say whatever you want, like if you're going to fly off the handle against a player in your shot.

And they turn around and talk shit back to you.

“You should just be like, hey, guess what?”

All's fair. That's way better than the Roy kicking the guy out. Way better. I agree. Roy should have turned around and been like, fuck you.

I won the rider cup in your face. What do you say, Max? I did that this once as a 10 year old and little league. You told a guy to suck your dick. Well, I was playing, no, I was playing right field.

And there was a family member of the other team that was heckling me as I was trying to catch it. And I turned around and just flipped flipped off as a 10 year old. And it was big deal. That's what? That's good sports time.

Like the heckling a 10 year old little league. Yeah. I haven't strapped for it. Burwen Payley literally big rivalry. You got trouble for him.

I'm sorry. I didn't get thrown out of the game. I did get my, I just turned talking to for my parents for sure, though. And now you don't swear at all anymore. I just, I just, I just, I just gave the finger.

But I was 10 years old so that was a little alarming at the time. So yeah, I'm pro this. Yes. I think we all are pro this. And to the people that are saying like the woman that did it is now like crying about and playing the victim.

I don't think that she is at all.

“I think like again, it was like they stepped out of the ring like two boxes.”

I just went, you know, they went 10 rounds against each other. It was a decision. And then she walks away. They'll meet each other again. This is a perfect litmus test of like, do I, do I like you as a person?

What I want to hang out with you as a person. If you watch this interaction and your reaction is that's classless. How dare he? I don't want to be your friend. If you watch this interaction, you're like, yeah, it's sports.

That's fucking funny. They're going back and forth to each other. That, that gave the woman a story for the rest of her life. Yeah. There you go.

So all, all's fair. And then my other cool throne is Vinnie Woodhead too. Absolute beast. So we've talked about it, but Vinnie Woodhead won was a complete, which was dead.

And then came back alive because Billy never jumped it.

Was a death trap. Was not. Was was on its last legs. We've retired it. We actually crushed it in metal and made it an art installation in our office, which is pretty sick.

Got that up. I had bought, bought, bought.

I bought Vinnie Woodhead too.

“I think it was like last, late last summer.”

And from late last summer until yesterday, it had driven maybe 15 miles. We had not used it. It was just kind of on the sideline waiting. Yesterday, we just threw it in the fire. But 600 miles, one day Vinnie Woodhead too, just an absolute champ.

And it's got some nice, it's comfortable. It looks exactly like Vinnie Woodhead. One, the only quirks we have is when you, there's a couple of one is the dashboard just went blank in the middle of the drive. That had been some time.

That was fine. That's probably when we got the hour back. Yeah, that's when we got the hour back. The other was, if I, if I floor it, the AC turns off. Also fine.

Because it's actually nice, you just get like a little break from the AC and then it blast back on.

When it comes back on, it actually feels better because it's like, you get to experience the heat for a second.

And then the cold feels even cold. It's like a turbo AC. And then this Predometer is like just not correct. But that doesn't matter. I was just, I was going fast.

We were going fast. And it held up. So child Vinnie Woodhead too. It was actually very comfortable too. It's a great time.

It's a great time. It's a great drive. Some of the fellow sleep. Yeah. That's how comfortable it is.

Do you want to say sorry? Sorry for, for saying that. I would say that. Hank Hank. This is, this is fake news.

Well, okay.

“Between Hank and Max calling fake news before anything's been set.”

Yeah. You guys got to let, let the speed before you judge for making a joke and you not being able to take a joke. Oh, sorry. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

This sounds like a fair apology. Let's hear about. Yeah. Let's, let's send the stage real quick. Oh, take over the car for 10 hours.

Hank had slept and played golf in the back.

I mean, I would have driven you never let anyone else drive.

I'm not saying that, but I'm not saying that. What else am I supposed to do? Not say you suck at driving. That, okay. We were driving for 10 hours.

It was loopy. I was loopy. I was, we were messing around. I made what I thought was a very obvious joke. I've heard what you even said.

But I was like, yeah, but you suck at driving. Which, again, was. I thought very obviously. But again, it was also like 500. And then you got in here.

And then you got in here. No, I didn't. You said that. I'm actually mad. Then today you're like, I'm actually mad.

You said that. No, did you said I'm actually mad. I'm actually mad that you were pretending you didn't say it. Well, then again, the camera went on. And I again thought we were just busing balls.

The camera went on. I was like, pick out. You did such a good job. Yeah. Because you're actually getting really mad.

And then you have your flaws. That was the camera went on outside. What to put it out. Yeah. You can do whatever you want.

I was, again, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for making a joke. And you're not being able to take it. Oh, that's such a piece of shit. So hey, what I likened to is Hank is a spoiled little kid who sits in the back of the car.

Sleeps, plays video games, watches his iPad. And then in the last five minutes of the drive is like, are we fucking there? What? And like, complaints. And like, that's what he does.

He did it for the biggest drive. He did it for the biggest drive. It's like what? I wouldn't have driven. I would have driven.

No. I don't think you wanted to drive. I've driven the RV across the country multiple times. Yeah, we're just like 11 years ago. And also, I think that you would have rather played golf on your video.

Yeah. The bad. It was a live video game. Play now to spin them in the back. See, whatever.

I, again, I'm sorry. We had a great time. We had a great time. Hank, you know. How don't do that?

Hank is the buddy that goes to bed. He gets like really, really drunk. And he falls asleep at like 9.30 at night. And then everyone else goes out. And then we wake up in the morning and everyone's super hungover at 10.

You're like, come on. Why aren't we drinking? Because you got a full night sleep.

“That's what, that's what it felt like when we got into Baton Rouge.”

Yeah. We were on our last legs. We were tired. We're also at the point of great week where we're just yelling at each other forever. We love that.

We've spent too much. We're also at the point of much time. Great week where we're getting easily duped by fake stories. Because that tennis thing came from a tennis scintle. I know that tennis has scintle.

So we did that entire thing. Oh no. PFC. I didn't know that there was a tennis scintle. What can I say?

So what happened was I absent mine. I do our offer. I booked your offer Q2. I booked marked it last night. Would else have a screwed up.

Hank, tell me. Pratel. Birthdays. We go with a birthday. The list goes on.

PFC status is now keeping a list of every birthday that you get wrong. Which is the bullshit.

There's a six billion people who's birthdays.

Hey. Hey guys. I accept your apology. Okay. Thank you.

I'm sorry. I'm not actually mad. I was very tired at the end of that ride. That was a long ass day. Yeah.

It was a good trip. Yeah. Also, I agree. I should have let you drive. But I was very excited to drive in.

I spent a lot of money on that then. And we never used it. So I was pumped. Think fucking drives well. Yeah.

No. It's exactly the exact same van as that's family one. Yes.

I didn't think we'd be passing cars at ease.

But when you needed to go around. I didn't. Ready for the occasion. And I went. I went no tweets.

It was full.

“Just like the only two tweets were when we stopped for gas.”

I talked to big cap before we hit the road. And I was like, big hat. If you want to use your phone. I'm going to drive. We're not going to take Vanion and I ten and have you scroll on the entire time.

And yeah. I felt safe.

I felt safe without big cap.

I can't. On Twitter. I felt. All right. I was.

I was so safe. I fell asleep. If I didn't feel safe. I was like, so long. I was like sitting there clutch, you know, clutching both both armrests.

Well, exactly. Having to deal with the fact that you put your toes in his fucking ears because you were on troll mode. That was a lame mood. You were doing that. Yeah.

He's. He's like, he got into six year old mood. Loopy. So that's your phone died. Yes.

Just be it. You're phone died. And then you're like, I'm going to. nine of 10 on the road and you're like, I'm going to spend the last hour just fucking with everyone. Yes, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, Zach. But that was obvious.

My uh, my cool throw in the, or my house at this week is going to be, guys, you don't like contact because Ken's back. Ken's got to be saying week one or turning against the cowboys. So, okay, broken Fabia ankle this way, but he's saying, look boys, I'm back. He said the hardest hurdle was the, the mental game of like being able to trust it again. So, okay, we're getting full full contact running backs. That helps. And I'm excited. He just laughed on to watch. That is. Yeah. Yeah. Are the giants

the team I'm going to sell myself on? Mentally. You did last year. I know I did. That was really stupid. Something like, Sun and I football week on just screams. Everyone's going to get excited for that game and it could just be like, I think, but hardball changes it. That is true. That is true. Mm-hmm. When it's neighbors coming back, that's the question. He got another knee scope.

“Although we never met. What? You got another knee scope. You have to charge yourself. Same knee.”

I think so. What? What do you say? What is it? The charger still stake. The charges do not stink. Chargers stay. That seemed like in the out of the blue shot. Why was it, why? Well, because because we said the same thing about hardball going to the chargers, chargers are going to be. But the chargers have been good. The chargers have turned it around. Yeah, hardball got him to the plant. What are you talking about? They're in the playoffs.

Ever their old playoff team, like two out of three years, and they lost their entire offensive line last year and somehow got there. Do you remember what they were like before hardball got there? Why is that point made? There's a playoff. This is crazy. Yeah. This is crazy. Chargers. I think you're just thinking they lost, they lost. Well, I don't know. So I'm just thinking anti-giant right now. I would absolutely, if you, if you ask any

chargers fan has the hardball era been a success so far, you were sounding yes. We're sounding yes. They were dog shit with Justin Herbert and they did. What do you talk about? They had a 27 point lead in the playoffs. Yeah. That was the best. That was bad. That was bad. It was bad. Like a few years ago. Yeah, but they just get a pass because they're the chargers. No, no, no, remember Brandon's silly. Remember the game against the

Raiders? The worst game ever played when they lost my 700 member Eastern stick. Yeah. Like they were choke. That last year they were very bad. Yeah. And hardball came in and clean that shit up. And then if we're Sean Slater and Joe Alt don't get hurt, maybe it's a different story. Maybe they, no, Justin Herbert probably still lose the fight. Has he, he hasn't won a half game shit. No. There was a lot of exceptions in the playoffs tends to. That was quite the way we had your back.

We did have your back. I think I think we realized you had won a play.

“What Max was saying was like the only thing he remembers is that Pune of Ford left the team. So”

he's like, oh, they must be bad down. How do the chargers even like come here? It's a question. That was kind of crazy. The chargers got out. I put it. Well, yeah. I was just thinking. The hardball is just like the hardball's aren't good. Is that what you're thinking? No, I'm because it's more so coping of like, oh, yeah. The giants could be a threat now. Harballs there. And then I really thought about it. I was like, I actually thought the chargers were going to be a threat.

The chargers aren't a threat. Chargers had the fifth pick and their defense gave up 35 points a game that they before horrible. Okay. I just could be, then we, what, one of them can't win a fucking play. They're still not like a they still can't want to play off game. That's facts. It's got you there. Didn't they acquire some pieces on the offensive line? So maybe not so many sexes. That's hopefully health. And then we got a biotish. And then we drafted a fucking

center is never played garden as a life to play guard. So who knows. But that was a lot of charge.

When Shane's preview Max might be right. Yeah. I saw I Shane, panty night you saw us. We fucking jumped down Max's throat there. Then we kind of got some clarity. We're like, he's kind of making some good points. You talk to him. Shane talked to set out of our rapid defense. We were ready to go. We realized that. He's kind of right. You guys will probably

actually bummed him out hard. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. We've been together too long. Okay. And then my cool thorn today is going to be SGA because not only did SGA win the MP again. He also blessed the entire team back to back years. I got the guys some gift bags. I saw some customizable golf bags,

some trench coat. I never seen a trench coat move before. That was quite the gift. Okay. I

would have did it as a team. And then also got to boy some timepiece situations. Watch this again. Yeah. Watch this again. But he went a AP offshore and AP uh real hoax. Mostly AP offshores. A lot of offshores. What are you guys talking about? So like, I'm not a watch guy. Max's a watch guy. He's a watch guy. He's a watch guy. They were going to officially AP offshore. So it's like a dive watch or like you go out like deep deep sea with it. It's got like more waterproof or how

“meters things like that. Decent amount of meters. What? Decent amount of meters. How many?”

Top my head. I don't have that. But I do know that there's three hundred. I learned 20. I learned that. Those are the models. None of those guys are going to want to. Yeah. No, no one's. It's bullshit. They're selling watches that go that deep when no human goes that deep. No leave your time at AD. The uh the trench coat gift that if you give Chet home grenade trench coat, it must be impossible for him to walk around without everybody thinking that it's three kids inside there. Yes.

Did you see what the trench coat looked on? Chet? No. It was just the most normal looking jacket. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because if I see him, I'm like, there's two kids under there. You're sneaking into a movie. And there's a lot of people online also seeing that, uh, S.A. might have got banged by the jeweler because they off the bunch of those offshores instead of the Royal Oaks to them. So they're they're moving inventory maybe on S.J. A. Okay. What do they call watch

Tik Tok. Watch talk. Just Tik Tok. Tik Tok. Tik Tok. Tiktok. Tiktok. Tiktok Square. Tiktok. Mm-hmm. Took me a while to get there. I got there. Yep. No, I just think about it. Yeah. Tiktok. Tik Tok. Tiktok. Tiktok. Yeah. That's good. That's good. All right. Should we get to our end of use? We're laying kiffin and blake portals. By the way, we should just say uh the blake portals interview.

“I think is so bad. It's good. Uh it was 7,000 degrees in vanity. And oh yeah. Dave, you're”

expect we're on blake portals to come on anytime. If you're expecting us to have a long nuanced conversation with blake portals, this is not the interview for you. But we had just finished working construction. Yeah. I mean, I think it's funny, but it's awesome. You're going to watch. You're going to listen to be like, what just happened? I think the van was probably 130 degrees. It was so bad. Yeah. Before we get to Coach Lane Kiffin, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy.

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“It is LSU head coach, Lane Kiffin, in his office and it's great week presented by Chevy. So”

Coach, we got a lot to talk about because we spent the whole day with you. But the first question

is always on great week. What does the word grit mean to you? The ability to keep going like when

it gets tough, you know, and you just feel like, yeah, I'm not sure, you know, just the grind of it, the grit down. We experienced it today. Yes, some of your cast, you know, the multiple times. There were so many times. You and I just looked at each other when they were laying down and they were quitting. And I just, we didn't say it, but I just knew we were basically saying grit together. Yeah. And we kept going. Well, I was also constantly saying, uh, finished strong because I was hoping that I could gaslight the

yoga instructor into being like, all right, that was it. Didn't work. Didn't work. I did after, you know, there's a mirror in the front. So some of the people afterwards, you know, later in the day, they were like, do you realize he kept yelling like, come on, finish guys, finish guys, but you were just laying there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Every time I was yelling, I was not moving to like, if there wasn't a mirror that they were like, man, this guy in the back, man. That's a great grinding. I really

got grit. Yeah. So we did the hot yoga with you at 6 a.m. My theory was every time I started to get tired.

I would just hold my fours up in the fourth quarter. And if it was like a third of the way through,

a quarter of the way through, if you just put your fours up, you feel like it's the end. You can give yourself that that last push. Yeah. But it wasn't, it wasn't hot yoga. You told us we're going to go for hot yoga. It was the first thing happens when we walk in like go grab 20 pound dumbbells. And I'm just doing like hand cleans and Olympic weight lifting in a sauna 10 minutes in. I was like,

day. That's so stupid. Every day. That's so dumb. No matter what, every single day, non-negotiable,

non-negotiable, we need to go shape that a little bit. No. Like what if what if you had a coach that you were trying to hire? And you were like, non-negotiable, we got to do yoga every day. He's like, I can't do that. Not every day. No, I can't just for me. Just for me. Just for me. Yeah. I make now in life, I just make non-negotiables. Like, it doesn't matter no matter what. And then I don't ever have to talk to myself. I don't ever have to like go, am I going to get up or am I not? That's smart. Am I

going to eat this or not? How many are I going to drink this or not? If it's just a non-negotiable, it's not even a conversation. So what are the other non-negotiable? No bread? Ever? Ever? It's crazy.

“Okay. You don't eat sandwiches. No alcohol? No. All right. Wait, the no bread. Can we go back to that?”

Okay. I'm going to just say it. I think that makes you less of a football coach. Okay. Because I just

think that like part of being a football coach, you got to get strength from carbs. And you're just not doing that.

Okay. Then you're really not going to like the next one because there's no alcohol. Okay. That's not it. I get the alcohol. It's fine. Yeah. It's not dick a beer. Yeah. But I mean, people stop drinking all the time. Like I just have a good for a coach. Like you need beer. Yeah. Okay. So what else? Bread, possibly need those things. And then every day no matter what no matter where you're getting up and finding a workout. So workout, you're not saying hot yoga. Because if you do the same one here.

Right. But if I'm out of time, it usually is the same thing. Okay. We just find a studio. Okay. I did notice that more than a few times, I would say probably like six or seven times during the workout, you would get up and you would talk to one of your guys that was in there. Yeah. And I was wondering to myself, like, do you get, do you get ideas while you're working on the morning? Uh, sometimes. But usually, if it's a little slower. Yeah. But usually a lot of times I'm just going

over like it's kind of like a team. Like if I should have talked to you guys before. First off,

there's no yoga in it for the most part. Yes. We just years ago, it started as yoga. Years ago, probably five, six years ago, and Oxford started in the hot yoga studio. It was all yoga. And then it transformed to some people were like, yeah, we want some more, you know, like then it turned into this like hit class, like then it was weights and it was cardio. And then at the end, it was just like, all right, fuck it. Like put it all together and just make the hardest shit and the

“hotest shit that you can. You did that. And that's what it became. Yeah. You did something very”

mean to me, which was right at the start. You moved me over a little bit and you had this young lady come work out right next to me. And then you're like, yeah, she's a four time NCAA champion gymnast. Yeah. Enjoy. And then I just, I just sweat on this poor girl's math into. I do apologize for her ass. Five times to her. I was like, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be, I'm, I'm a slob. I understand. I think less of myself than you think of me. So let me just beat myself up. But she was just

kicking my ass at this workout the entire time. I don't know if you were doing that to test me or just because you wanted me to get my ass kicked by a girl. But it was a great way to start today. I had a blast. What? What was a couple of reasons and they're one like if you put greatness around you, then it just brings you up. So she's like the most decorated gymnast in the history of the school. One in the history of all of colleges, Haley Bryant. So she comes to class. So like I

put her there figured like, okay, if I put her next to you, it's going to bring you up. I'm here's like the greatest of what she, you know, ever at doing it. You know, plus you guys were all back got in and we were like, oh, like back tight like this. And it was like kind of six dudes, you know.

“Yeah. It's kind of like the movie theater thing. That's what we were going to space between each other”

though, you know, like yeah. So it was like, all right, let's spread out a little bit here. Like it was to put someone between us, you know, didn't really know. Yeah. And who was the coach to who kept on yelling for us to take off our shirts? That was weird. Yeah, because like he said it like three or four times and me's acting max. Yeah. I just at one point turn around and I was just like, dude, we're not taking off our shirts. They're not coming off. We'll die in here. So that was listen,

I credit to you for getting up and doing that. I actually, I don't know if you saw, but I retired from Hot Yoga. Oh, no, I didn't want to walk at my kids graduation. So I'm not going to be doing Hot Yoga ever again. But I walk around like that because you start to like become a team in it. So it's like you against her, against the instructor. I should have told you guys that before like kind of like, you got to get in like, hey, we don't like her. Yeah. We're not going to let her beat us

no matter what. I did not like her. Yeah. No, I hated her. She walked in and I'm like, okay, there's an instructor. Oh, boy. Yeah. I was like this. She was like, yeah. She was, she was a problem. She was also very good at identifying when we were trying to like lay low and not necessarily do all the work. But I used to be really good at that back in the day. Like, if it was basketball practice football practice, I could tell when the coach wasn't looking. Yeah. So I would like

slack off a little bit. She, she had eyes everywhere in that room and she would call you out. And that's one of the, in my opinion, that's a, that's a bummer about modern football. It's like, guys, like me, we can't get away with that practice anymore. You put chips in our shoulder pads and you look at everything now. Yeah. Too many cameras, too many angles. Yeah. For football players, you wait. But in there, she gets because of the mirror, too. So even when she's looking that way,

The back row. It was good. And so I, I theorized the back rows actually cooler 10 degrees more than the front. So we're actually in the easier spot. Oh, yeah. There was a, there was a moment where there was a

“door behind Zach and I and there was a, I think someone had put like a towel or something underneath”

the door. And I started ripping it the towel to get a small draft going to the door. Yes, because I was, we were like a prisoner's trying to escape. So it was tough. It was soft. It was soft. It's like, so when someone walked out, he had a water in that door open. And he's like,

oh, yeah. Oh, thank you, God. Incredible breathing in there. I think I put my face towards it.

I was like, give me more of that. But honestly, it was a good workout. I was telling the guys, I know that big cat retired. I'm going to get into doing yoga. I feel like that's, and I retired from running. I retired from a lot of stuff. But I feel like yoga might be a good thing to add to my repertoire. So you, but do you miss doing the yoga? Now that you've switched over to doing more of the cardio high intense stuff? I do. Now, um, on Sunday, it'll be a lot more yoga, you know, kind of like recovery

day. And so I do like that. I do like that. I do like that. You change it when you go back to that. Because that's very non football. Yeah. But that really like gets you breathing, gets you kind of out of all the other stuff. You know, and you got to, you got to stay in really uncomfortable things.

“Which I tell to guys, that's why I like bringing our coaches. You know, like you stay in really”

uncomfortable things in the heat. And that's life. That's, that's like that. Yeah. It's always hot too.

Yeah. It's life. But it's so long. Yeah. All right. So I want to play a game with you. It's, it's called a good average bad. So you got to grade yourself. And actually the first thing is hot yoga. Good average bad. How are you at those? Good. Okay. Football coaching. Good. Breakups. Bad. Yeah. Really bad coach. Really bad breakups here. They really like actually the worst of all time. Yeah. It makes me feel good. I'll be a good run. How are you doing after

your breakup? Because you, you know, do you feel how much the internet kind of hates you right now? Yeah. You do. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I've been off for like a week. It was good. Yeah. You know, I was like, hey, let me just see what this like here. You know, like remove myself a little bit. So I've actually been off for probably a week. Yeah. We've been for the first time ever. Is, do you, are you, obviously you guys start the season of Clemson, but you play

Ole Miss week three? Is that already kind of circled in your head? Like, okay. This is going to be serious. Like, there's a lot of animosity back and forth. Yeah. That was already there. Yeah. That was, I felt that at the airport when we left that. Yeah.

You know, yeah. So I've always known that was going to be there. Yeah. The airport seemed

was quite something. Yeah. Yeah. We go ahead. I was going to say before you left at the airport, like who's called was it to get Marty Smith to like drive a mini van onto the tarmac before. And like one last thing before I leave. Let me get Marty out here in front of the plane. No, no, no. Marty was like, it was like Scooby Doo like in the in the mini van like that. You know, like the shaggy van, whatever it was like he's like coming driving driving by. He's like,

I got to get this interview. Whatever. I'm like, he called me because he was waiting at the airport. You know, like no one we, hey, we had to leave through the airport. So he was going to try to get me there. And he like called me. It's like, I don't think you're going to be getting through this airport here, buddy. Yeah. It was some. So like, obviously it's all the dust is settled somewhat, but it was chaotic. You were, you had essentially taken, you know, hostage of the internet

in this college football world for a week there. And, you know, this happened maybe a couple

“other times in your career. Would you say, would it be fair to characterize you as a messy bitch?”

Messy Indians. That's for sure. What's really crazy about the thing is, is my Indians in my control, obviously you get fired in the control. But the two times where, you know, the Tennessee and the No-Miss leaving, I was, I thought I was trying to do. Right. Things right. Right. And obviously they didn't go very well. Yeah. So it's hard. I mean, it's hard. I will say that it's hard, especially if you're,

especially in the middle of the season when you have a college playoff team, like that's a very difficult thing to navigate. I don't know what the right answer is. You know, it's kind of a, what would be, if you could go back and do it differently, would you do it any differently? Yeah. I think I would have just came in and said, okay, I'm leaving. I'm very appreciative of everything. You know, I spent a lot of time right there fighting to coach the team. You know, trying to keep

everything together, totally respect their decision. You know, the other guy for that not to happen. I get it. But I was trying so hard to keep that together. Like, hey, let us all coach like this whole thing. You know, let's see if we can go in the whole thing. And so obviously that didn't happen that way, which has been created a lot of it because that was a whole night and morning of that and then was going to happen. And then the team meeting moved back and all the things that went with it,

and then you couldn't have a normal team meeting because of that time and it, you know,

I mean, I don't know how much it would have saved, right? Just going in and saying instead of trying

to say, hey, I really want to go, hey, I'm not coaching. I'm taking the job and I'm pretty stiff, but I think you still would, you definitely would have had their ports in all that. But as tough as that is on so many parts from on them, on me, on walking with a 12 year old nephew that they're young and all that stuff, that also speaks to the SEC. And what else does that happen? Definitely. That the people that for six years love you, want to build a statue, chant for you

at the last game to stay, and then they hate you like that. Yeah. And then you land, whatever that is, probably 45 minute flight, and then you land here in the people here that when we'd play here, we're yelling at me, hate me. Yep. And saying everything I did was horrible. We love you. Yeah, that's also the beauty of this. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, like Ole Miss fans who are upset, still upset. Like, I'm like, that's sports, you, you have every right to be like that. You

aren't, I mean, that's just people live and die with their teams. And so when things happen,

“they're going to get emotional. And that's what makes sports great is fans being that invested.”

Yeah, I think you saw it, obviously, you knew it, but you saw it even more so during the whole thing. Yeah, I think there's some parts that are kind of funny when you experience you're going through, like, like you said, that's SEC fans and the passion of it. And everything that you were doing there, they embraced at the time because you're theirs. Man, this is great, man. Our coach does yoga. You know, he's on social media all the time.

And he trolls the other fans. We love what he does. And then you leave and they were like, we hate him. He does yoga. He trolls over time. And then the new ones here that hated it are like, we love to do our coach does yoga. We both love that he trolled all guy. And then I love work running into people and you run into people here and they're like, coach,

always been wanting you. Yeah, you're even my guy. I'm on. I've always appreciated.

You're like, I saw you yelling at me in this tunnel the one time I was Tiger Stadium. Yeah, it's interesting because, like, you were put, then it was a very weird situation this postseason where Ole Miss was on a little run. And then you were getting compensated by Ole Miss, but you were the coach of a rival team and it felt like Ole Miss's, their fans didn't want you to be happy with any success that Ole Miss was having. So like, what was that like for you

personally watching that team play? Yeah, that was really hard. And I didn't care less. I don't let's probably says about the finance. I didn't even know that was in the contract. You know that if they won, then I was getting paid through here, you know, like, I actually didn't even know it till I read about it. I know that sounds crazy. So you did that anyway? I'm a call bullshit on that. No, I really didn't. They put all, that's that's Jimmy Sexton. Okay. And the stuff that you

didn't hear the most of the time. Yeah, you lost the money. Yeah, what's actually when I read it, I called him and I like, wait, I don't understand. It's like, well, you know, we put it in there because if you stayed, you were going to get that. Right. So the new place took you, they're going to pay you

“it right to come. You should probably pay us for what we did to you on the softball diamond today.”

That's, that's, well, I think that's fair compensation. But yeah, I really don't, I really don't understand how as we went to put together teams. And I learned about this softball game today. And that you have a real team. Yes, we did have played a lot before. We have your undefeated. Yes, this was not our full team, but yes. Okay, but you are undefeated. Okay. And I don't know anything about this. And then we're going to play. So you guys take Sawyer our best player and all right,

Sawyer, let's go put together our teams like, yeah, put together your team. What do you mean you put together? I'm on the other team. Yeah. But you said, on the field, you were, you were saying, you were telling Sawyer, he was over five today. He was. So that's something that's five times we had five

hours. That's it. But yeah, in the book, he's over five. You never hit today. Who are you? I want to

hear it. And you guys better hire him because they have a job tomorrow. I want to hear what it was like for you personally, like watching those games. And what that felt. Yeah, that was really tough. You know, especially as you see their faces, you know, walk off as they're losing that game. And you know, like, it gets a one-play game. And then, you know, what did it make a difference? If they would let us coach, you know, and I'm not going to say about myself as they had coach,

because Pete did a great job. But then that means Pete go to what is still been in the pressbox, calling defenses, you know, for together. And all our assistance would have been there in strength coaches. Every, you know, everything would have been together. Is that the difference of one play in a Miami game, I would like to think it is. So you're watching that same cow, man. We could, we could be going to the National Championship. So you feel for the kids in that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's talk

about this year's LSU team. 60 transfers? Yeah. What is that? Like, it's obviously you've seen so much football coach, the NFL coach and college, things have changed so much. What does that mean

“as a head coach when you have to do turn over a roster to that level? Where it's like, I like instilling”

culture and stealing the, the type of football players you want. Is it, is it difficult? Yeah. Yeah. We, the good thing is we've had some practice. You know, like last year that team we just talked about that. Well, when 13 games, 11 and one regular season, that was actually a rebuilt team.

and darted to quarterback to the first round and a lot of NFL players. So that was a rebuilt

team of the ton of portal players again. So we have had practice in this in today's era of college football, especially the way we built teams year and year out there. So we've, we've done this. It is like almost every year you're redo doing your culture. This is a little harder because we weren't here. So none of the returning players, even another returning to LSU, they don't know our culture. Right. So in that way, it's a little bit like an expansion team, you know. But

you know, at the same time, other people are going to the same same things. What's the hardest thing like culture-wise to instill in a team? Is it like toughness? Is it, you know, smarts to play the way that you want to play? Like whether it be up tempo offense? Like what is the, what's the

“hardest barrier for you that you find when you're trying to get the guys on the same page?”

I think it's really challenging nowadays because it's really hard to get guys to put together individual, put away individual things. You know, everything is so individual-based and if I play this and I think I'm going to get this contract, I'm going to get this. So I need my stats, you know, because I got to get an apparel and get paid. So getting guys to really buy into, we understand that, you know, I think that we do a good job of really understanding how they think.

So we're not like, hey, you got to be a team. Don't care about anything, you know, like that's not realistic, you know. But understanding like the enjoyment and what they will get out of playing really well as a team, having great years like what we've done previously in the memories that

they'll have from that. Right. You know, first everything being individual.

What about the idea of having to derecute somebody after they get to campus? Like as they already accepted, they're trying to see where they fit on the team. Some guys need to be humbled a little bit, coming to certain times of the year. Is that the same thing? Like nowadays or have you found that it's changed with denial and the portal. Like you can't actually derecute somebody. You can't, like it's harder to humble these guys. Yeah, I think, you know, with denial and portal,

there's a lot of problems that have been created. I think with them getting paid, I don't think that's as challenging. I don't think it's as challenging to get guys to do things because or pay in you. You don't want to do it. There's fine system, you know, just like the NFL. And so it's, I find it's actually easier. They kind of in their mind, you know, think they're like pros now, which is good. That's how we talk to them. They are. So you get high expectations. And we get paid.

Hey, we expect you to do these things. We expect you to do these things in the weight room in the film room, all these different things. And hey, if you want to be an almost student, not really do, all those things. That's fine. Go see the GM and get back after your money. Right. You know,

“if you want to do half the work. Yeah. So I think in that way, it's a little bit easier that way. Like,”

hey, you bring them in. Hey, this is what you need to do. And if you don't, you know, you're getting found. There's a fine system for those things. But also what's going to happen at the end of the year? Cut. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It's good point. If you're recruiting a quarter back, what is it? What does Lane Kiffin quarterback look like? If you were draw it up in the lab? Yeah. You know, we, first off, we, we adjust really to our quarterback. So it's not like the

quarterbacks that'll look just like this. You know, I mean, we're, we're going to take really good players in over years. They look really different. And then we, we move our system around to fit them, you know what they do best. So we don't look for these specific height, weight, speed, arm, you know, but really competitiveness. You know, they all need to be really competitive. I really like guys that can make the out of rhythm plays. You know, we, we've, we have tried to move more

towards athletic move around guys because in college, especially so much stuff out of rhythm,

“and it comes down to, hey, we don't make the right calls all the time. They get paid as defensive”

coordinators too. And that's coverage. You got really good defensive players and things. And at the end of the day, when that guy comes free, and we don't make a right call or the left guy gets beat. Do you make a miss and make the third down play? And that's really a lot of times what advances in the playoffs. Yeah. Deep in the year does that guy do it. We get all the credit for coachman. That was a great job. Well, really the corner came free and you guys made a quarter, you know,

trained that makes a miss and runs all over to make the play. That's called good recruiting. Right. Yeah, was treated at one of those guys where it's like, you, he, he obviously was unheralded guy. And what was it about him that you're like, okay, we can work with that. We can make a system around his ranks. Yeah. Well, you one, you look at, he's winner. So highly competitive. Winner just won the National Championship as a quarterback. And, you know, it's interesting, you know, he, you know,

he messed up, we're going to go play pickle ball today. But you guys did, you weren't going to do that. So yeah, we fight. It's not a real slow. Listen, when, when we know we're going to lose, we don't play. Okay.

Yeah. So I played when we first got trained at him. I went and played pickle ball with me. Never

played. And the way he picked up in the competitiveness that he had in his hand-eye coordination, you could tell like this guy was really elite special. So was playing pickle ball. So what you're saying is that not playing pickle ball with you today, we missed a potential try out to be your starting quarterback. Yeah. Is that fair to say? That is. Yeah. That sucks. And you could just be like,

And everything. And then would just be like, you got this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We could help. We're just good. Good. Good. Down here in the county and just, yeah. Big cats. Good. Ready to go. Yeah. All right. So, and then what about Sam Levitt, your quarterback, who's awesome, played Arizona State took their team to the to the playoffs? What, what do you see in him that you're like, this is a guy. And maybe what's the system? Like, is the system shifting here with what you're going to

try to do that may be different than last year? Yeah. I think what we see in him is some similarities. You know, winner, highly competitive. You know, he took the team to the playoffs. You know, two years ago, made a lot of plays. You know, where things broke down. He had to make plays of this feet. And he's really, really competitive and smart. Really student of the game loves watching it. He actually has been very limited because of surgery in what he could do. But the way that he's

approached the game and how serious is about being great. Awesome. Yeah. We saw him actually in the lock. We did. He's throwing like, he was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to throw from 10 to 12 tomorrow. He's talking to a player. It's like, all right. There was a, he's off season. One anonymous player that we spoke with, uh, wanted me to ask if you're a big dash pro fan. I don't know what that means.

“I don't either. Dash pro. I feel like I'm just a secret. I think he wants you to run your place. Tell”

us you're keeping a secret play from us. No, I thought that was like one of those things that the kids say nowadays. That was. Dash pro. How many secret plays do you have? We're a lot of gas secret plays. They're called gas. Okay. What is that? Gas means like you go really fast and just give it one word and you got to memorize everything around it. Okay. Okay. But he's there like, sorry. I feel like we're in a name gas plays after this. We need to master people too.

Oh, okay. Nice. Nice. I love like gas big cat. Yeah. That one slow down. That one slow down and it lay down and say, "Finish strong." Yeah. All we put like iconic people at the school. Yeah, yeah, uh, gas Libby done. Yeah. And then this is a certain play and it's, you know, names they can remember. Can we give you one? That maybe you can use, uh, this here, gas sack. This is our guy. Gas Cornelius. I know. I know. I know. You know, I know. I know where you

go. I know where you go, I know where you go, I know where you go, I know where you go, I know where you go. Gas Zach would be a slow down play. Yeah. I mean, that's a good thing. I killed it all down play.

Hey, guys, here's what we're going to take all of the clock up because the guy can't wake up with his

name alarm. Yeah, like so. Yep. Yeah. So maybe that could be like in the game play. Yes.

“Gas sack. Corn clock. Corn clock. Yes. Burn clock. Yeah. I like that a lot. You should. Yeah.”

That's, you know, they got, hey, that's it. No, you know, they would like milk the clock with you milk the clock. Yeah. Zach the clock. That's a lot. Take it on all the way. I don't care what happens. You do not wake up. We're not staffed that ball. It's beautiful about this moment right here is like, there's an outside chance that 60 years from now and football coaches are just going to call it Zach in the clock. Zach in the clock. And it's from right is from this moment right now.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. You know what we're going to use it. Yeah. You know, since I saw the thing where you did the clock. Yes. Yes. Don't go to the ground in the 60 year. Yeah. Yeah.

Games. Maybe. Maybe. You've never been crazy. You never been crazy. You know, sure. That's great.

Not. Oh, it's your girlfriend will be around. Yes. She will. You're on our Queen. Our Queen keeps me on. Yeah. Yeah. Part of my sheet. Maybe that's what he's thinking. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He's the same. Yes. He's that. It feels to be around. All right. I have a question from an LSU fan. Our friend Van Lathen, I texted him because he's from here and he's a big LSU fan. His I was like, Hey, what? What do LSU fans want to know from Lane Kiffin? And he said,

what will he do to make them play like the animals we see? Yeah. Yeah. He's something about LSU football. Where it's like, even the ups and downs, there's a physicality that LSU football kind of always brings, especially on the defensive line where you're like, Oh, man, dude, it's just absolutely destroying people. So what what are you going to do to make that culture continue? Yeah. That that was one of the first things was like, I said, it's like, we need to return LSU

physical style the way that it was especially defensive. When you were scared to play LSU,

you know, is that our bandmas that he's other places? And it was always like, shit, when you got

to play LSU's even, and if you got to play him in Tiger Stadium, yeah. So to get that back one players, get those type of players, you know, but then I'll say that mindset like, hey, man, they got to come play you and you got to train that way, you got to think that way, like, you're at LSU. And this is, and we do that when you say, Deaver crew, them, it's not as hard because we sit here on this couch with them and in recruiting or in a portal say, this is what is going to be,

it's going to be really, really hard here. We're going to work you really hard. You're going

“to put a lot of time and it's going to be really physical and intense. So that's how we're going to”

train. So if you don't want that, that's okay, but don't come here. Right. And that's that's how you got to do it here and get those type of guys that have that mindset that match the fans that match the stadium so that they're, they're working together. It is because you really do work together.

our net tough phase and the fans come. Yeah, feel like that weight on the other side. And I'm

like, woo. Yeah. No, we've said, we've come to a couple of games here and it is the best, like, whenever someone asks me, like, hey, where should I go see a game and like, you got to go to LSU on a Saturday night? And I mean, I'm a Wisconsin fan. I'm not trying to blow smoke. It's just, the sound here is just different. It sounds like lightning and thunder when you come out on a different standard on the field. When you say that you had a question from a LSU fan, I thought you were going

to say, uh, been meant. Oh, mm. Yeah, we're not. Was that a question for you, which is, uh, do you hate

“me? No, you should. You should. You should. Look at him. Why have been on social media for weeks?”

Or maybe he's done something. I don't know. I'll probably know that's different. Just a beauty being off of it. I've realized because there are people hate you. You don't even know it. Yes. It's not really happening. It's true. Yeah. It's not, if you don't look at it, would Tyler the creator say, like, you're getting cyberbullied, just turn your phone off. Yeah. It's because it's not happening. Yeah. That's gone. But yeah, you know, you can hate him.

It's okay. He's, he's, he's a hateable person. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, he's just nice guy. He's really hateable. Yeah. Um, I like him. I feel like he means well. Yeah. He does. He does. I know. He means well. He definitely means well. Please, you know, both sides. Yeah. A little too much. Yeah. That might be actually like he faced timing before like the playoff game and the cardings like being all nice, narrowing, been in the old missfins or man at him for

being nice. Yeah. And so then he tries to like go back and be nice to them. He's very good at finding a way to get like the maximum amount of people mad at him. It's a good skill. Yeah.

He always, I got it. Yeah. He just, I'm good at it. He gets. Yeah. That's true. You might be the

Ben men's of college football. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Actually, no. I read the music. You're the opposite of Ben men's and his some of his. Yes. That's true. That's true. That's true. Um, do, would you say that you're more of a part of my take podcast guest and maybe less of a vanity fair profile guy? Yeah. In the future? Yeah. Yeah. Why did you do that because you wanted nice pictures? That's sorry. SID's ID. Yeah. Yeah. There he is. You look, because I've told you before

Michael, I was like, what, what are we doing? He's like, you know, this is a different. This is not sports. These are new people. You know, that will get to hear about LSU and everything, you know, they'll do a really good job. They'll come in here. You know, they're not many questions and stuff and they're here for like four hours and then it became what it

“became. You should have taken him to hot yoga because that's you. There was a strategy today”

where you were just like, we're going to tire him out. So to where they can't even think when they interview me, yeah. So it's good strategy. I just called you to bend mince college football. That was not a real thought. You're just came out of my hydration. It's so bad that you're brain. I'm about teammate right now. If I pissed on one of those strips, it'd be like, you got to, you got to drink 16 ounces asap. That's exactly what he does in the back. Yeah. Yeah. He's like,

if you're like orange. Yeah. He's got, but it's a problem. You pissed on. What were you? I didn't, I didn't get one of the strips. I just saw the sign. Yeah. I was a solid orange all day. All day. And I saw I can't imagine what I'm like after, although you got hydration today at nutrition. Yeah, hydration in your in your juice place. That was good time. Speaking of juice, this will be the only like hard-hitting journalism question I asked today. One of the big things

that came out of the breakup at Ole Miss was, "Do you, did you actually own that dog juice?" Yeah. So I want to give you some space to clarify and think carefully because this is going to be a country. People will look into it. What was your relationship like with juice? And what is it like to this day? I feel like it's one of those like, number of awesome things like what we said. You're there as everybody loves you and then you leave and then it's like everything changes to like,

and that was one of the really good ones. Like, you know that he didn't know juice. It's fake, you know, it was just a stunt, you know, PR stunt that I had this dog, you know, like, we got a landry actually picked the dog. I went out into Wild Rose. I can't know if she wanted a dog, because she had just moved from California and so she picked out juice and that's really it. We didn't have a plan for him to be this mascot or any of the things that happened and she just

kind of ran into that. So was it your dog? Yes, in your house, in my house. Now, oh, now, Tom, our dog trainer guy, cow wild Rose. Okay. Tom would keep him at time because of my schedule

for how long. You know, once Landry went to, I first had him every day. Okay. You know,

kid and then like the parent, you know, like the parent. Yeah. And then when Landry went to college. Okay. Now, nobody was at the house. Right. So Tom would keep him up. You know, like, during the week, then, you know, like I get him back on Thursday. You know,

“he'd be with us for the weekend and then go back. Okay. That's why it was kind of like”

joint, joint custody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To force the dog dad is what I'm hearing, which is better than going like to Christie, know him route with things with the dog. Yeah.

because I don't have a house yet. Okay. Okay. So juice has gone back and forth and I got to get a house.

“Okay. She gets juice. Yes. Because at first, I did bring him here. Okay.”

And then, like, there's this little dog, you know, bed over there. Good for him. We have a little guy that dogs ever been in that bed. There's Hera. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. But then we hear the problem. What's the dog going to do all day? Because I don't have a house. So then he was up here and he's here all day. Like, and it was like, okay. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, Tom,

like, people are going back and forth. You know, like, so that they drove him back up. And then Tom would keep him for a little bit and he'd come down a visit a little bit. So okay. So Tom has a dog right now. Tom, physio is a dog right now. He physically has a dog. So if we call, if we FaceTime Tom, yes, he could show us proof of life of juice. Yes. That's all right. Go ahead. We can do it. Sorry, FaceTime Tom. How committed are we to, to getting juice on campus? Like,

first time, you have a night game. I'm sure Kirk Herbsfreech is going to bring one of his,

like, several dogs here. Yeah. Can we get, we'll, we'll juice beyond camera once the season starts. Yeah, I hope you're right. And then we'll house by then. Okay. Okay. I was just so forward to focus on spring ball. Yeah. And then like I was close to a house and it fell through. And so like, I don't have the house yet. You know, like, need the house to get that out of the house and the dog came down. We need two houses. So too much information. But you know, you know, not exactly what they want. It's not the sun. And then

“later, that's why we moved down. Well, but we lived separate sex life. So we're going to get two houses.”

Both places we had two in Oxford. Well, she has two dogs there. So then we got to get two here. We got her to want found hers and find mine yet. And she's got the two dogs. They don't get along with juice. So that was part of it. Okay. Okay. This is exactly what it's good. We're getting to the bottom of this. Yeah. We're a blended family. You know, yeah. Yeah. Brandon Walker does nothing. The juices real. It's my guy. Yeah. He is your guy. He's actually the, he's actually the embodiment of

SEC where it's like he hated you. Exactly. Then you left. He's like lovely and given the right. He's doing it for me. So you haven't been online. But for the last week or so, Brandon has been like the number one defender of you. I feel like he's been for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's really glad that you left. Yeah. Absolutely. He's like, actually, I feel like why he was there. He would actually say Lane Kiffin is the best coaching college football. Uh-huh. Because he was you want to get me out.

Yeah. So he, he actually thought like ADs would listen to him. Yes. Okay. If I say he's great. Yeah. Maybe the LSU and Florida AD will listen to Brandon. Oh, they do. He's a number one college football analyst, maybe they do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bring him to SEC meetings. No, it's okay. Oh, they did. He could rank to coach. Yeah. He loves doing less. He loves doing less. It would be safe to say though that like you're talking about like messy divorces. Your divorce

from FAU is maybe the cleanest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in the future, if people accuse you of being messy with these things, be like, hey, go talk to FAU. I did it. Good ones. Yeah, they'll, they'll say nice things about me. One time I did it. And actually, the more when people say like, oh, teams are distracted, they can't play well. You know, that was the whole thing kind of at the end. They're not going to be able to play well. They're too distracted and distracted old misty. Like,

I got started when we were playing at Oklahoma. You know, and they were not going to play well. And the NAGBOL, they certainly can't play well because they're distracted because every same their coaches leave and well, we played really well. And FAU actually, I take the old Miss job that morning of the conference championship. We don't play till later in the day. The players are actually seeing that we're telling them they're seeing it on Sports Center that

were leaving. And then we go win by like 40 in the conference. Yeah. Yeah. That's all you're open with them. Yeah. Just like, at Ole Miss, I told them all along. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

And this, you'll never find a recruit or a parent normally when you leave. They say, well, man,

he told us he was going to be here. You know, when we sign your beer forever, I never once said, I'd, they'd always ask me, they'd sit right on the couch and say, hey, are you going to be here forever if we come to Ole Miss? I said, I don't know that. Right. I know I love it here, but I can't tell you I'm going to be here forever. Yeah. That's always up front with them. Yeah. Yeah. We, we are on a group chat together and we go back. We bounce a lot of ideas off each other.

Yeah. How, how would you say your understanding of music? Get me to be cats? Yeah, Tom. Okay. Okay. We'll face some. How would you rank up me in big cats contributions that group chat in terms of plays that we can think about running next year? Well, yeah. We fell into a problem. Because first off, our group chat was us.

Yeah. Sawyer that now works for us here at Akimadus. He was on the first brigade,

“really called first platoon. Yeah. That's what they named it. Like the really got on the first”

plane. Well, there were two planes. Yeah. Thank you for the service. Yeah. And some people were like, okay, you know, like, hey, okay, we're coming. And then all of a sudden as should got like a little crazy. If you were like, we're not sure we're getting on the plane. Yeah. No, I was like, hey, where's Glasscock? We got to find them. Yeah. Yeah. Where's Glasscock and Joe Cox? Yeah, we got to find these guys. Yeah. Supposedly they're coming. And then like, they were all saying they're coming.

to that, if you go out there, man, there's a lot of people at that airport. You know, it's really ugly. And then like, they start face time into, hey, are you on the plane? Yeah, I carry on the plane.

Yeah. So anyway, um, yeah, the first brigade. So he gets on. Well, we leave, we leave Fisher.

Yeah. You know, which is okay. You great guy. He got married, you know, and then like, you know, his wife's there and so it was complicated. So they stayed there. All right. Well, he was still in our group chat at that point. So we're talking play scheme. And we're like, a lot of stuff you guys give us, because we actually implement high intel fake punt punt. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Now it's the operational security issue. We have roles on normal down in distance. Yep. Yep. Yep. So we had to get him out of it.

Out of it. So it's a big time. I mean, there's two, I got a lot of group chats of really kind of like high level people, really high level thoughts. You know, you got elite SEC coaches in one. You got some other people in that. I won't talk about, you know, and in there's ours. We should throw peak Carol in ours. Just toss him in. Yeah. That's true. He does like that. He likes

outside the box. Yeah. Okay. He's never heard a fake punt punt. I showed you it worked.

I sent you that clip. Yeah. It worked. I can't remember who was like division 3D. But it worked.

“They did not see that coming. Is there a, uh, is there actually a, like an SEC head coaches group chat?”

Yeah. There's two. There's the one with everybody. Uh-huh. You know that they have so that like the assistant commissioner can have it in it. You know, like, so they're all the coaches. If they want to like tell us something, there's a role change, you know, and then there's like one kind of created on our own. You know, that's just like some select ones. Not that we're better than anybody. Just, right? You know, that we're close. And so we kind of bitch about things together or throw ideas

out and they're together and stuff. You know, look at I guess about the other coaches. You know, can I guess who's in it? Well, you don't know if I'm allowed to say it because Kirby's made a rule that that's everybody knows Kirby's in it. So I didn't just bring it to everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Sark. We know something is in it for sure. Friends of Sark. Yeah. I'm not too long. So I think that was really okay. But here, air is here. I've gotten in trouble for this before because I've talked about this

“with people. I think it was Theo Vaughn's podcast and like, and in Kirby's like dude, it's fight club,”

man. You can't talk about, yeah, this group. You can't talk about what happens in here. And you keep breaking the rule and you're the one that started the group. You know, like, so do you think maybe they started a new group chat without you because they can't trust you in yours? I don't want to put that thought in your head. That's a mean thing for me to do. Well, it's not something to do. It is crazy because the group has six people. Okay. All right. Now again. But then there's so many

separate ones and there's basically like a group. There's there's every group that doesn't have

each one of them in it one time. All right. So like, hey, man, you know, like, that guy really just got smoked Saturday and like, you want to say something funny Saturday night, you know, like send something. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of funny or something. Yeah. Who added somewhere else to it? Was that you? Or did somebody else do that? And he's not an artist. Oh, but a good job. Okay. So we can do that. What was the time you talked to Brent Venables? Um, I'm good with him. But I, I just another one of the stuff. Yeah,

okay. All right. Okay, all right. Now again somewhere. Uh, so we're Steve Elco think about the price of crude oil these days. Like, I know that's right tied in with like all the boosters. Steve. Oh, yeah. I'll go. Yeah. Mike Elco. Sorry. Oh, that's all right. Steve. I'll get you. Steve, you better make it for more. Elco. Elco. You know, Elco. Oh, we got it. We got juice. This is going to be huge. You, you don't drop. You don't drop. No, hold on.

Tom. Yeah. How you doing? Can we see juice, please? Please produce juice. Okay. Let's try to figure out. Flip the camera. Which. Okay. I can tell he's actively working. There's juice. Nope. That's just. Nope. That looks like a drawing of a dog.

“Can we see the tag? Yeah. We can see it. We can see juice. Can we zoom in on the tag, please?”

Oh, yeah. All right. We're going to need that. Oh, yeah. There's juice. We're going to. Yes, so Brandon. Yeah. Brandon really says that juice doesn't it? Yeah. Tom, we're going to need a couple of mouse swabs just to confirm that juice is real. So just send that to us. Call his name. Walk the other side of the room, call his name. I bet you'd juice his head will turn if I whistle he knows my whistle. Okay. All right.

This is going to happen. I said juice after here. I needed you to say juice first. Can you just hold the camera really close to his tag? Yeah. Can you zoom in on his tag, please? On his tag. He's named tag. He's named no name tag. He's named your father. Yeah. We'll blur this. He's a hunting dog. You don't put it. They're not going to tag on him. You don't go in the other room and call it called. Call your name.

When you think they have like the dog bone with the like the bad dress on there. It's like a real hunt dog. Just start with juice.

Confirm. Thank you. Talk. We appreciate it. All right. See you. All right. All right. You know what? You got us. This is you. Yep. I want you to think he's actually like a world-class hunting dog. So he's like, it's like the manning of dogs. Like when you go out there to like their facility, people fly planes into

get these dogs. And like juices, grandfathers like on the wall. You know, I'm front of magazines. Like, so he's like world-class hunting dog. Like, he's like a manning. It's like a manning dog. Oh, my dog's like hunting. And so like we have this dog. I don't know anything about hunting whatever. But yeah, so he doesn't have a name tag like like, yeah, thank you. I'm about coaches are supposed to drink beer like tough hunting dogs.

They don't have like a name tag. Yeah. No, thanks. Yeah. That was juice. I can confirm.

“I was confused. Confirm. You can talk probably like what the fuck?”

No, this is basically like the most like publicatory better watch out because we might get a

policy. We just found out that your dog is real. He didn't approve Brandon wrong. Oh, man. That's great. That's great. Hey, so do you think of offensive new offensive plays just randomly like when you're back to like our group chat? Because we're obviously giving you some great stuff to think about. But are you like walking down the street or at hot yoga? And it's just like your brain just starts thinking, I don't know. What if I did this with

the receiver? What if I did this other day? Yeah. Yeah. So voicemails. I've learned to use voicemails a lot. Like Charlie Weiss. So like I'm laying there getting ready for bed or something like that, you know, like you're laying in something just pops in. You know, it's like dark so you can't really text and all that you don't like wake up and see the screen right? So I just voicemail him. Hey, what if we put the receiver down in this way? Hey, what if we thought about this tomorrow?

Remind me of this in the morning voicemails. Okay. So that's, I mean, that's cool to be there. Like you could do that like on Friday nights to me. Yeah. In our group chat, like you're just kind of laying there. Yeah. You know, like, or you had the bar or whatever. I don't really go to the bar. Yeah. Okay.

“But you think of something. Yeah. Just voicemail me. Hey, coach tomorrow, man. I think that you”

run this the first shark wheel. Shark wheel. Yeah. Just hit it. Shark wheel. Spam it against Ole Miss week three shark wheel. Shark wheel. Shark wheel. Yeah. That's good. You can Sam Levitt out in space. Yeah. You put the linebackers in complete conflict. You're ready to go. That's shark wheel. Was it hard to? I love how your group just nods that. Yeah. I want a couple of national titles playing

the video game and I think I ran shark wheel 90 percent of it. What's the most you've ever run

the same play like over a quarter video game? Yeah. I want a title here. That'll show. One one 10 to see. One one to LSU. I was, is this gonna happen? It's put like the coach. You can be the coach and like draw yourself. It was done. I should remember. It was during COVID when we had no sports. I bought the old game from 2014 and just started streaming myself playing it. And I was just like, I went through multiple seasons losing in like horrific ways and it kept building and building.

And we had no sports. So like by the end, 100,000 people were watching. Yeah. I remember this. Yeah. Shark wheel. Yeah. I don't know what I see. Okay. I know something about this too.

“Like I like I think I tweeted something at you about this or something like you're playing”

like we could beat you. Because I did beat Ole Miss a couple of times. I was in the SEC both with tennis. But wait, weren't you like a small team or something? I started it Toledo and I went or you got new head jobs. Yeah. I would go around. I was FSU also coming back to Texas Tech, USC, hopped around. Yeah. Once that is. I knew where I'm going to. You don't have. Well actually, like with Big Cat went through with those fan bases. Pretty similar in a video game.

Like he had people that were mad at him for leaving their school. Yeah. Like he knows you. He knew exactly what you go through. Yeah. I had people at the airport. Yeah. I would leave. Just yell and shit at me. Sorry, god. I don't be awesome actually if they made the game. And then when you do like, you know, you get better jobs. Yeah. Like you move on and like in what you're saying. Yeah. So we move on and they like show the

people like at the airport. Yeah. They're burning things on campus. Yeah. Right. He would spam the same play. Like have you ever done that to an opponent like run the same play 10 times in a row? Yeah. Uh, we can actually say it as now. Um, Mulligan, it was. So if you said Mulligan, it's all you had to say, all the players knew to run the exact same play. And you did and then like sometimes it would hit and you would. Mulligan. Yeah. Keep going on again. One more. Yeah. We actually

did an Ole Miss Alabama in the COVID time when there's really high scoring games. Yeah. And that year I was like 15, something to 48 or something. We lost Alabama, but we kept running the same play like four times in a row. Mulligan. What was it? Uh, it was like a zone play with a tight and

sliding back and hit like on third and forever. And then we just kept running it. Yeah. That's

kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to feel cringey. Um, have you talked to Coach O at all? You obviously have history with them. And we love Coach O. Yeah. Um, we'd love to see him back.

This is home. Yeah. Well, here you, you might have joined a professional today. No, not yet. Oh,

he, he might say. Yeah. Okay. What was the, uh, when you were with him at Tennessee, what was the projector story from your from your, uh, point of view? Can you set the scene for for what Coach

“O did with the projector before I think it was Tennessee, Alabama? Uh, I got so many. He keeps”

you in so many times. No, are you just, I don't even remember it. I agree broke the projector. He smashed it against the wall as you're opening act. That's, that's, that's, that's follow. That's like nothing. He, he used to actually like smash the projector and like everything in like the meaning room in the hotel like the morning of the game of the jewelry. Get everyone fired up. Like they come in like, hey, just one time. Yeah. You know, if I can give you all fired up and we like come

down like me and start, we, this was like, we're all assistants there. You know, he was like, Coach Kirby, like, all right, get him going, which I got him now. You know, I'm sucking on like, it's like eight hours for a kickoff. Like, what are we doing here? Because we're more like, hey, let's just like show them plays. You know, you get some tips and reminders. Let me go back up stairs. You know, like, lay around and push up and go on. Like, okay, it's 70. I don't play for eight

hours. It works, though. No. Yeah. And they just break shit. Yeah. And then they just start breaking shit. And then, like, our director of football ops, like, I'm Monday to be like, uh, here's our bill, like, because we broke a chandelier for everything like, you know, in the whole, like hotel room,

“you know, we're in the game to like, get him going. That's how he gets him going. This is wartime.”

We got to take it outside. Yeah. I love that. I love that. Disciple emphasize things are thumbs up and we're to see right back on the group chat. That's smart. No, he's not on there. He's on the big one. He's on the big one. Okay. He's on the big one. On the big one confirmed on the big one. He's on the big one. Here's the sad thing. And this happens in the side one. So I'll give you this. I mean, I had to at the end of the year things change. Yeah. So to be group chat changes.

And then every would be like, in our little one, like, Kirby Rolex, like, I'm breaking the rules right now, but whatever. Yeah. I mean, it's okay. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be real fuller in interviews. Okay. Who's going to take him out of the conversation? Yeah. I just got fired. You know, yeah, that's a sad moment. It was like Billy Napier has left the conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's worse. No, but they don't leave on their own.

Right. So one of us has to take him out. Yeah. That is not also that's kind of funny for for everybody else. I get a sad way. It's funny for everybody to like look at that. And it's like, they're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like

It's like there's a group of moves here. It's like big that move. Right. So you had to remove Mark Stoops. Oh, I know what we did. I know we did. Now I remember here's what we did

we just started a new one. So nobody ever saw the guy. Yeah, you have like the disease grew up because sometimes I just like all right name the new one. I go to some and they say all the time like I send more things times 10 than everybody. Right. You're that guy. I'm that guy. Yeah. Like basically sometimes I feel like I'm like talking to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And then by one other person. I'll be like, sorry. I guess we could just like have our own conversation. So then like then you start the new ones, but here's the problem. They're not named right. So then like, hey, I want to like go and I'm like, okay, I'm going to send this

picture to our group. Whatever it is or something like this. It's like, I write Kirby and then it pulls up like so many. So I'm like, oh, here's one with everybody. You know, and it says us and then they'll like said to it just text the old one. Right. You know, so it's definitely just confused that one. He's actually like that's a bad human. I've been the longest standing members. Yeah, but that's a tough move when that happens. You know, you got to you. What you got to do is you got to name it. You also got to change the picture. Yeah. Do you have a picture is what he's like catches your eye. You're like, okay. This is the new one. Yeah. That's the move.

Just a lot that says SEC head coaches just put us in there and we'll we'll police.

“We've been silent partner. Yeah. We won't. I promise you. There's not there's so much great stuff in there. I bet we could respond if you won't. We'll just thumbs up shit. I don't care. What's what is the picture at the top? Is it just the SEC logo?”

That rocks. That's class. That's cool. That's like the last move. Yeah. That's an old club. Is the SEC dead though? Because a big 10 kind of whips the SEC now.

Yeah, it is. First statement. Why do you think it's been so long since the SEC won an ad. It's like there's like four year olds in the SEC win an ad.

There's a lot into that. I think that I think it's set up in a good way for the top heavy teams there right now. I think now and it's going to get better. We're going to nine games and our bottom is harder than theirs. Okay. And our bottom stadiums. You know, our harder than theirs. So we're going to beat each other up more. And they're going to sit up there and have two, three hard games a year. You know. And so their their top teams and our top teams when they go to the playoffs. Okay. They're in better shape.

That that stuff matters. You know, it's like I've always been opponent to stay at eight games and let us make our own whoever want to play in knockout. Don't tell us who we have to play. Right.

And we would do like the model of the last place I was just at. Look at our we went 20 and only non conference regular season games and almost 20 now. We didn't play in them big like openers. This place went in a four year span lost three or four openers. Yeah, they played hard games. So you played. Yeah. That's so great. Whatever. Well, you don't get rewarded for it because it's not worth it enough. And this makes it. But also that schedule. We're half your games. You don't have to get up for it's just a it's a mental toll.

That you got to play when you get enough or plus also you're good players out by the fourth quarter. So you're play count at the end of the years less. One of the really good teams there rested a couple of their good players in games at the conference games at the end of the year.

“I think it could be better shape for the for the playoff. Which is now longer. And I think as you look at our model of mess like that schedule. We played eight home games last year.”

Okay. Look, that team was a really good shape physically and mentally to go into the playoff. Yeah.

You always lost the Washington state. Yeah. And that was the that was the rap poison game where we we gave you guys rap poison.

I looked like a genius. I was like this is the biggest trap game ever take Washington state. And then you put it in front of your team. And I almost was right. I almost you guys almost fucked that up. So watch this. This is why scheduling matters. Okay. So was that the hardest non-convers team out there? No. Nope. We're not playing Ohio State or something. So. Well, we'll include this in our group chat. What we have figured out is basically every year you're going to have a blackout game. Good and bad. Yep. Just what's going to happen.

The ball is going to go that way, man. Someone's going to hear like everything's going to go good in one game. You're going to blackout game, man. Like, and it might be a side of the ball. Right. But in every year, you're going to have a blackout bad game. Can you survive the bad blackout? Well, if that day of your bad blackout, you're playing somebody that's not great. Maybe you can survive it. We played horrible that day. No energy, 11 a.m. ticket. Just what happened?

Yeah. And we survived it. Right. We survived our blackout game. Right. Because that is always interesting to me as a college coach.

How do you after a big win? Like, they are kids at the end of the day. Like, they're obviously there's some, you know, guys are playing in their mid 20s. But there's a lot of 18 19 20 year old kids who have a huge moment. And then they got to go play the next week. How do you get off the mat? How do you get them to turn the page? Because just human nature. When you do something very like incredible successful that you're going to, you're going to basket it for a little bit.

“Relief syndrome. That's what happens. That happens to adults.”

Right. In a fellow player, you have that game, the let down game. So it certainly happens in college. It happens to all of it. It's really hard to battle against relief syndrome. Like, we're good. I got this, man. We just want that game. And now it's harder than ever because what do they do? All day long read about how great they are. This have great. They are just game. They know spreads. They know like how hey, when we're not supposed to lose this game, more than they didn't even like see that stuff.

Right. They're reading a paper back in the day. So now they see all that. So it's even more that that's why you've got to try to get them to understand like every game. Man, is independent of every other game. Yeah. Yeah. Really, it really is hard to do. Yeah. And every game is independent and every every game, previous game and it doesn't matter, man. If you beat him before.

And you guys, we got to go play it doesn't matter that I beat him, but you didn't let you Austin. All that shit doesn't matter. Yeah. That's every game is independent. That that that narrow victory that you had against Ole Miss helped me because I want to James Madison. So we also narrowly beat Washington state. And then I got to be like, well Ole Miss, they're tough team Ole Miss. So James, it's basically you would beat Ole Miss. It's basically we beat Ole Miss actually.

“I think we might have beaten you. Yeah, but I'm not pretty last year.”

Yeah, we kicked your ass. Yeah. Overrated. That's a belt taste. So our former coach, Signetti, went to Indiana, has obviously been on an incredible run. How much do you adjust things like you get somebody like him that comes in? When's that a place that nobody thinks you'd be able to win at?

Or do you change anything at all based on how he has chosen to like attack the portal, build a team?

“Like do you change anything about the way you operate?”

Yeah, we don't because there's a lot of similarities there about building through portal and, you know, how to invest in which players and top players and stuff. So I think there's a lot of similarities in the models of how the teams were built. You know, portal heavy, not traditional, national high school, you know, five star players. So there's a lot of similarities in the models of how we do it.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Was it hard to keep whip weeks here? Um, yeah, I mean, he was thinking about going. Yeah. And... [laughs]

Well, I just feel like it wasn't a professional question, but I was asked. I'm going to answer it professionally. That was a professional question, okay? What was it like re-recording whip weeks? I almost leaned into it.

That was getting a very unprofessional answer. It was like, okay, actually carry. Yes, I do. I was like, is this any of where I started? He's like, hey, don't get too loose with them. Now, you know, you do this with people, and then all of a sudden you say those things,

and then we got to like, go back track. Yeah. So I'm trying to be on metal behavior. How about how about you don't say the thing that you were, you were going to back track on, but you can just do the back track as if you had said.

Yeah, that track right now. So back track, what you almost said? Yeah. I'm sorry, I was taking out a contact. I actually do this all the time.

I'd be like, to people all the time. Oh, like, kind. Like, I shouldn't say this at all, and then I just say it. Yeah, I think it was like, hey, no, you know, I really, you know, like, it would be rude to say this.

But this is what I was thinking. And then they're like, what you said it anyway. Yeah, we do it all the time on the show. Yeah, like, I'm not going to say it. And they're like, oh, we got to say it.

Yeah, well, now it's not as funny.

“Yeah, but she was going to be like, yeah, well, you know, I just called as girlfriend.”

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So now, you're at the back track. Now, back track. Now, tell us the apology.

Now, I'm going to apologize for. Yeah, just saying, yeah, call the girlfriend thing. Yeah, call the girlfriend who's the daughter of me. Right. You know, like, the gentleman's day.

Yeah, yeah. So it's taking out the context. I don't accept the apology. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

Just want to let everyone know. We hear it coach football.

Yeah, but here's the thing.

You got to wait a few days. You got to wait a few days. Wait, wait a few days to apologize. So in the story comes back again. You're just dying down.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. We're finally moving on. Make sure you get that.

I really apologize. That's the message. You got to keep everyone talking about you. And then it's like, man, he apologized. Oh, no.

Did he actually just bring it back up again? Yeah. What did he apologize for? Yeah. All right.

I got one last question. This has been so much fun. We've had an incredible day. You guys have been like the best in terms of hosts. We've done everything.

Hot yoga, softball. We did. We did the. We crazy beat you and softball. We beat you and softball.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, that relief syndrome thing, like we could play softball 100 times. You beat you guys all your times.

Every game is independent of the other. No, not that. No, not that. Actually, if you play a sort of base every time. There's what I disagree with every time.

That's what I disagree with. One. Okay. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of factors that go into this.

Now we had no. Our team had no idea about like the new ball that you all use. We don't know that even though we had some softball people. They're not used to the softball coaches from the softball team. Yes, correct.

Okay. Yeah. But it's kind of like it. It's like four or ten percent. All different.

Then like now you guys need to strategically like place your outfield. People and stuff like now we realize the ball can't really travel that far. Like, well, so let me ask you a question. If you if we played that game again. Yeah.

Now would you put yourself a third base?

That's the other thing. I didn't know my team. Now I know. I don't even know the people that are on the team. Would you put yourself a third base?

No. Okay. But also this. That would be better now. Maybe I would.

No. No. You're back to a loss. No. Because I know the ball now.

The damn boat first off. You got to have a different game plan in the first inning and then later in. Yes. Because the ball gets softer. I told you guys that.

Yeah, you get hit the ball. Yeah, but I didn't really realize. Yeah.

“I think you should try to hit hard grounders in the first inning.”

Yeah. It's hard to feel. Yeah. Then once you're kind of scared of that ball at first. Because like, wait, I don't have a glove.

Right. Then you realize all right. This ball got soft man. Like if you can toss it around. Yeah.

Would you consider yourself to be a good loser? No. Yeah. I mean, I mean, show me good loser. I'll show you a loser.

So again, you don't want to lose. It makes sense. Good one. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. I keep up with that. And usually they're good losing. They've gotten used to it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I keep up with that. I keep up with that.

I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that.

I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that. I keep up with that.

I keep up with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Paul O.S.

Huddy's jogger shorts. Robac.com, promo code Take Zach. That was a really good job. I thought you were reaching it over there. No, no.

Yeah. I'm really glad in my head. Wow. It's like three lines.

Mulligan. We don't even need that. Mulligan. Zach. Guess that.

Three lines. Max could play for you. My guy. It's gone on.

“Coach, I appreciate you for your time today.”

I was a curious. I did see he recently.

I don't know this is developing friendship.

I saw you take on stage a little boozy a couple of weeks ago. And I was curious. If for the city of Bad Rouge, if there was any talks, it may be having him run down the tunnel with the team. One game this season.

Hmm. Yeah. I don't think the tunnel thing. You know, that's kind of sacred in that. You know, we've discussed different people.

And we did this at the previous place. You know, doing like the tiger walk with us. She knows that they kind of walk in the stadium. Kind of like the Morgan Wall and thing. Yeah.

You know, like so. We've discussed that. We've talked to boozy about that. Okay. Awesome.

Nice. Very follow up. And it's also curious like boozy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We're going to be catfish. I just wanted to cut like real fish. And I was in the videos.

And he's like, damn, that's scary out there.

You know, like, we go way out.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

“We had some of the chips yesterday in the van.”

There we go. Yeah. Yeah. We had some of the chips yesterday. In the van.

There we go. Yeah. Yeah. We had some of the chips yesterday. Check it out.

Yeah. All right. Go ahead, Zach. I was also curious whether it be a Tennessee, you know, Florida. Ole Miss.

Now here at LSU. What is it about coaching in a in the south? Because there are some of the sets aside. Coaching the south compared to other regions. Again, United States.

Like just has you keep coming back. Or. Good question. He's just cracks me. It's a good question.

Yeah. Because I really. I told you, self-admitted. Like I don't see the show all the time. Yeah.

It's a Sawyer like just kind of like gives me the funny clips. Yeah. And so Sawyer this morning like comes in and shows his clip with Bill Chek and the alarms and all that stuff. I was like, he's acting in that.

No. So that's what I said today. Like he, he walked around. I was like, he's acting the exact same again. Yep.

He's the same. Yeah. SEC. It's just what we talked about. The reaction there.

You know, when you change job, look at the two previous SEC had jobs and you move and you change the neighbors. Like, well, if you think about their action was because I came to LSU. Well, that reaction at Tennessee wasn't another. That wasn't a rival school because it was like, well, if you were to left for a

rival school, Ole Miss would have been fine. Yeah. Tennessee wasn't because that's the passion of. That's the same reason why the stadiums are the way. The intensity is the way it is.

It means more. You know, we talked about, well, the big ten and winning. You know, those championship chips and so. But the SEC, what we talked about, you got to get up every week. And you got to play in that every week.

And the fans have that. The sit, the towns have that. And it's really cool. I mean, it really, I know it gets overplayed. Like, it means more, but it does, man.

It ruins people's like whole year when they lose a rivalry game down here. Is there a, is there any kind of like feeling you could equate to, like having the city and at the SEC school behind you, just like, it's almost bigger than the game. Like the entire city just around it like way to see this team win.

Is there any feeling that's close to that? Or is it, well, like anything else? It really is, you know, we guard against it. You know, we talk a lot against it because, you know, coaches, the kids experience, you know,

to become like these little gods and these towns and stuff. You know, like, what that's great when it's going good, but then when it goes bad, it's the other way.

Like, this is what, when I first got it, when I rise.

Whether you win or lose, whichever it is, that kid, he's not escaping it all week. Because everywhere you go. Now you go, like, let's say when I was at USC, like, kid goes to class, you know, like,

have to kids in class have no idea what happened in the game. You know what I mean? Like, or, you know, the gas station they don't know. Here, Tennessee, you know, places like that. Alabama, and everybody knows everything.

So it's like, man, when it's good, it's good, but you also got a guard from that. It guys get too high because everywhere they go, they hear, man, you're great, man. Especially when you talk about what down games.

Yeah. And you got this game. They're hearing that everywhere they go. Because everybody knows. Right.

They go down to eat, they get lunch. Everybody down there knows. The janitors, everybody knows what happened last week. And it knows exactly how they played. Yeah.

Did you have a laugh with Caleb and Debore about that woman who said,

“if she wanted a lottery, she'd buy out his contract?”

Did you have her in the laugh on the group chat? But see, you think you're figuring out the small group chat. There's still the big one that all these guys are on. Yeah, no. Without one's business.

I'm talking about that. Yeah. So I don't talk about that. So I kind of break that a little bit. You got in Debore not in the small group chat.

No. And in fairness. Well, he's not in fairness. He's not in fairness. He's not in fairness.

He's not in fairness. Yeah. In fairness, you wouldn't get in that fast. Right. So you're new on coaches.

Yeah. Yeah. These are usually like relationships that have been developed. Like trickwits. Yeah.

Yeah. You should actually make it like that. Yeah, I know. I got it. You make it like if you beat a new coach beats you or curvy.

They get in. That'd be fun. That's good. Yeah. I mean, got to keep you guys honest.

Do you ever just drop memes in the official one like back to Greg Sanky? Like you just mess around in the official group chat? You mean, he's not in though. Oh.

He's not. He delegates that.

Yeah, throw us in that one.

Yeah. That would be great. You'll just be the moderator. But I send things to Greg Sanky. He would tell you if he didn't read it.

Nobody else sends to him. Yeah. That's just me. Yeah.

“Have you gotten to meet and know Mike the Tiger yet?”

Hmm. Hmm. Not really besides just going by or once. Yeah. We said hello to him.

You haven't like. If you like. I mean, I didn't want to try to like have a moment. I don't like see. Yeah.

Yeah. I actually do feel like that. I think that's really why we need coach. Yeah. Just for things like that.

Yeah. Because actually what we're discussing right there and halfway joking. He knows. No. He has a relationship with Mike.

He does. There's a person. It's based on beauty. And even if the Tiger doesn't know, he would tell you that he believes. Oh, yeah.

Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. Coach. Me and a tiger.

We've been knowing Jennifer long time. Yes. Coach. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. This is a pretty might. Oh. All right. Oh, Coach.

Thank you for an unbelievable day. We appreciate it. Great week. There's been awesome. And best luck this season.

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Hersheyland.com/reases. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guests. Is there our guy Blake Portals in the back of any wood head to? First time we've had anyone back here.

What's up, dude? What's going on? Thanks for having me. And we're, we're also, we should say. We just, we just built an entire play set for,

with with a, with a great company called Rock Solid. Go check them out. For a young kid, two-year-old who's battling cancer. Feels good boys. We, we just put in a hard day's work.

Yeah. Great event. Awesome thing to do for, for a kid and his family. And I mean, we got to live out of dream of working construction. Yeah.

Construction warps. I'm sick in a second.

“We figured that probably wouldn't be the best thing to do.”

I was offered for that early. And I was like, I don't think that's what we should do in the back. Maybe a backyard of this kid's house. Maybe not. Maybe a little bit later.

Yeah. But he was so happy to see when Blake handed him a Jackson's Volvo Jaguar's football. So that was cool to see Blake. He's still got the touch.

Yeah. I didn't get a golden hammer. Yeah. No big deal. I did.

You and Max were awarded the golden hammer. And Zach, so we feel pretty good about that. Blake, I saw you just a couple months ago in Hank and I were down here for, for TPC. At saw a grass. And we went golfing.

Afterwards, we had a few beers over at our place. And you told a story that I was hoping that you would share with our audience about. Because I was complimenting you and how fast you were. Like you had. I think, among all like qualified quarterbacks, you had the highest yards per carry.

Of any AFC quarterback of all time. Yeah. So you were fast. You're fast guy. And then you were telling me a story about when you first got drafted by the Jaguar.

It's how fast you were that you tried to talk to your coach about maybe letting you play a different position. Yeah. I thought early on that tight-end could have been a potential better. Just long-term situation for my skill set. And they kind of pushed back on that.

So I ended up playing quarterback. Why did they push back? Because it was the fact they drafted you three.

“I think that had something to do with that.”

Yeah. And you're going to say, like, Blake, Blake, we just, we just drafted you third overall. Please don't ever say that to anybody again. Yeah. And so I kept that one of myself.

But I would hope that he's real. I would hop in drills every now and then quarterback ended up being alright. Yeah. That was great. And you were, I'm just, I suggest that was fitting for a tight-end.

I always thought. But I did say that to remind people that you were, you're an athlete. Absolutely. I'd more offers the play tight-end than the colleagues in quarterback. Where else were you offered?

I had never played tight-end before.

Okay. Colorado State. Okay. Western Kentucky told me I was too slow, so they wanted me to play tight-end. I was too slow to play quarterback.

Okay. And then Purdue. Oh. Yeah. That was an interesting place for you.

The guys really fit your personality. And watched me throw in high school for an hour and a half. And made me do all these extra drills. And at the end was like, yeah, we're going to offer your scholarship as a tight-end. Yeah.

Yeah. Do you miss it at all? Do you miss football? I do. I miss it a lot.

I still talked to people and getting old now. I know more coaches than players. Yeah. But enjoy watching. And miss hanging out.

The locker room, all the typical stuff being around the guys.

I didn't at first.

How's the little sour originally?

Yeah. And then that lasted like half a season. And then I started watching. It's just fun to watch and root for guys that you know. And coaches and cheese.

It's so hot back here. So hot back here. So hot. When you saw, when you saw Philip Rivers play this year. Were you like, I thought it wouldn't be a good play.

I thought it could play. No. Yeah. For me, that would be the straw. That would be like the last one where it's like, I'm better than Philip Rivers.

No. I think Philip had it. The mental edge probably the physical was well. I think I told you this last time I saw you. I happened to get in.

I played catch it. Like we got two boys that live next to his neighbors. Like 10 and 12. Great kids. Good athletes.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. How are they catching? They're great.

Yeah. Yeah. So we were having.

When we were doing the construction.

“I think that's why we didn't get the golden hammers.”

We were catching up. We saw a track. Talking about our kids. So you. You said in Florida they have they have T-ball.

They have travel T-ball. Travel T-ball. Florida's just, you know, it's competitive. And it's competitive like right away. Right.

As soon as you, there's no wreck league. And like, let's just have fun. As soon as you sign up. It's like. We're here to win championships and turn professional.

Dude, is there like part of you that's like, hey, I actually was a professional athlete. This is ridiculously. Like, I didn't need travel T-ball five years old. And I went to the NFL. I think that's part of it.

With with there's actually, I was coaching my daughter. And it's an all girls flag football league. There's like over 500 of them called Girl Power. It's awesome. But there was like four X NFL guys that were out there coaching.

And the four X NFL guys were by far the most relaxed children. Right. You know, everybody else. It's they if she championship game every Sunday. Right.

Because I feel like you like guys, you know, who actually played professionally. They're like, hey, most of these kids are not going to do anything. They're going to have fun. But yeah. Make it fun.

Depending that a five year old is going to be in the ML league. No doubt. Keep them signing up. Keep them having fun. Teach them the game.

And instill some quality traits.

“And then it's all kind of irrelevant till you hit puberty.”

It will be sick though. If one of your kids goes pro. It would because we're like, we'll hopefully still be doing this podcast. And that would be awesome. Vanity would.

Yeah. Full circle moment. Yeah. That would be so awesome. We're going to be 160 in the back of this man.

Dude. It's so fucking. What are you listening to? What do you think it is right now? Wait, who on.

Mask him. I want to know what temperature it is. Okay. It's got to be 120. I think it's.

What do we need to do, Max? What? Say it. Just say it. It's so hot.

Just fucking say it. Oh, yeah. Hey, what is grimming to you, dude? It's 700 degrees. I can't.

This is great. What? What? Blake. What is great mean to you.

Presented by draft. Okay. Shadow track. Yeah. Good sports.

Okay. All right. I hope to take. Okay. Okay.

Okay. We now. Can we keep this part in though? We keep all this in. And then I'll.

And then you put the. The question we're about to do. You put it the beginning. Yeah. All right.

All right. All right. We now welcome on the very, very, very special guest. That is Blake Portals. We're in the back of any wood head.

Two. Blake. I start this. I start every single interview with this question. Presented by draft Kings.

What does gritt mean to you, dude? I just battled in through on the back of any wood head. What's going on? 25. And just drip and sweat.

After building the swing set with a great company for a great cause. Yeah. That's going back to the middle. Let's go back to the middle of the interview. We're back.

We close to the end because it's so fucking hot in here. I feel like I'm going to sauna. Blake.

“What's the grittier doing this podcast in the back of this van?”

Or when you had to write a chapter of our book. Oh, yeah. Oh, god. I had a little until the Blake. Yeah.

We talked about the book. It's close. The book might. The book might take. He said that he was.

Our, our ghostwriter emailed him a couple times. He was like, is this good with you and Blake just said yes?

And just never read anything that he wrote before.

That's safe enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you have?

What do you do every day? Well, um, you know, I got three kids. So I did a lot of that. That's a lot. Big on, you know, I pack lunches and drop off.

Me and my wife rotate. Dropper. We got a one year old. So there's always a baby at the house. Yeah.

One of us is always with him. But you know, it's about it here and there. Random things. But during the like off like a normal day. Yeah.

Like you drop off the kids. Drop off. And then you're just like, all right, chill. Like I'm on this is me from a place of envy. Yeah.

There's not there's random activities and things that happen here and there. But for the most part, like, I'll work out. And yeah, it's kind of hang out. It's just like great. You had a great career.

You made a lot of money. And now you're tired in your mid 30s. Yeah. And I feel like most people aren't retired in their mid 30s. No.

The selection of people that you get to hang out with that are also retired are probably a little bit older than me.

So are you making friends with like older dudes? Yes. Like my goal was when I first got done, I was like, I'm just going to play golf every single day. And I realized a lot of the guys up there doing that were older and been divorced multiple times. And maybe absentee fathers.

So I limited the golf and went back home. But yeah, it's a lot of older hanging out playing golf because there's not many mid 30 year olds that can play golf on a Tuesday. Right. Right. Right.

9/30 in the morning. So yeah. It's diverse. How's your game? Up and down.

Some good. What should we do with your handicap? I guess seven. Oh, that's pretty good.

Think about Blake is I've never heard anybody else do this.

But you're a right-handed guy. And you play golf left-hand. Yeah. Hank and I both play golf left-handed. We actually had he borrowed some of my clubs when we played with you guys last time.

And he told me earlier it was kind of like the catalyst to him fully go and lefty. Yeah. So I like to believe I had a bit of influence on that. He needs your representation. You're the person we should blame for this whole fucking thing.

I mean his swing aesthetically is significantly better left-hand. Yeah.

“And what the result show I think is, you know, we haven't seen that yet.”

So he's a common. He found I think he's actually left-hand. You're actually right-handed. Yeah. Do everything right-hand is swing left-hand.

Swing left-hand. Does this count as our hot yoga? Yeah. I don't know. I think we're good.

It's 7,000 degrees back here. I'm about to pass out. That was awesome that we did that. That was cool building the play set. I do think that was not what we.

Our original idea was to sit on a construction site and do absolutely nothing.

Which you've talked about like how sick it would be.

The planched it. I had a buddy that like has a big site and he was like, "You guys can just come down here and kind of mess around on some heavy machinery." But you know what? You told me that. Well, you told me this.

Yeah, we know that. It's like we have to do this. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's a machinery.

It does. It does. But Chad, it was rock solid foundation. Yes. It's a really cool organization.

Yeah. I'm glad that we got to experience this together. It turns out we're a lot better with tools and we thought that we'd be. We're pretty good. It's not the tools part.

It's the directions. Yeah. There was a couple of times where Blake and I missed the step because we were just talking and caught up in conversation. Um, so the directions is the hard part. Yeah.

It's nice when you have like an adult supervisor there. Yeah. I was just kept on saying that. I'll help. All the adult supervisors were younger than us though.

Yeah. So we'd be like, "We need an adult and then a 30-year-old would come over." Yeah. Nice. Here we go.

Ice cold twisted tea. In the back of any woodhead. That's great. Hmm. Can I get a water?

[laughter] Um, that's key. Do you have a last question? It's so hot. We're going to have you back on when it's not so hot.

No, this is great. This is kind of stupid. Oh, what do you think about the Jaguar season? Last season? Ah, the next season.

Next season. You actually know it, but any Jaguar season. You pick a season. Any year at the Jaguar's history. Just be like, "That was pretty cool."

Seventeen was fun. Okay, that was. Yeah. What about? 95.

Yeah, what about? What about? Oh wait. Uh, yeah. I don't know.

That would be like David Garard, you know, maybe before him. We're about like 97. When you guys beat the Denver Broncos. Burnt out. Jimmy Smith.

Mm-hm. Keenima Cardell. Oh, two years ago. Two years ago. Not great.

I missed the playoffs. What about three years ago? The Urban Meyer season. What was that like?

“Uh, I don't know a ton about it, but I, you know, I think some changes were made.”

Okay. What about last year? And then going forward this year in the year after. Uh, last year is awesome. Um, Liam's great.

And get to spend some time with him in LA. Uh, yeah. Trevor's awesome. Got to know him a little bit. And I think they're, they're set up to be good for a long time.

So it's cool to watch. And the cities, you know, fired up and pumped around him. Do you, uh, do you, uh, do you, are you like, uh, like Jaguar fan? I root for him. Yeah.

Because there's still some people like in the support staff. Right. And like, no, none of the players were there. Um, but like root for him. Of course to do well.

No, some of the guys in the city's just happier when they win. Yeah. So everybody's in a better mood.

I went to my first one last year.

Uh, my daughter did the half-time cheerleading show. So he really supported. Um, great game. I mean, the new stadium will be sweet to you coming up. Yep.

They get to play in Orlando for your next, uh, next season. Right. Is there a team besides Jaguar? So you look at like your second favorite team that you play for? Um, just try the Rams.

Make very staffers cool to watch. Yeah. It's great. Roof for guys I know. Like watching guys I know.

Do you still have a Tesla? No. Wait. I went to trade it in. And uh, I didn't know how taxes worked on trade-ins.

“Like if you traded into cash, you have to pay taxes.”

But if you just traded in, they, if Rose rolls over fully into a trade-in. So I traded in and got a truck. Got it. It's nice. Nice.

So my wife was like, I come back expecting me to like, Uber back home with a check. And I drove. No, you said got the truck. Yeah.

Zach, last question. Robback question because it's 7,000 degrees back here. Come on, Zach. I think you guys had a year so quick. Robback question.

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Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Backblood. Blake, I was curious your thoughts on pickleball.

And if it's a competitive sport. Okay.

“I mean, I think it's competitive for sure.”

Anything can be competitive. I've played it some. I think it's fun. I think it's more fun as like a casual grab beer's after than like getting serious and trying to play in tournaments.

But teach their own. Do you love pickleball? Uh, I do think it's fun game. Do you think there's a world where, uh, kind of the competitive aspect of it expands. And we see more like a major tournament on TV or anything.

It's more of just like a leisurely fun thing. Yeah. Personally, I think it's more leisurely and fun. I don't know because it like the youth level. I guess you'd have to start like sniping off some of the kids playing tennis.

Yeah. The pickleball. I don't know. Who made you ask that question?

You've never talked about pickleball in your life.

I was just curious. I heard you guys tell my AU child sports earlier. And I was going to ask maybe if you saw a future in AU pickleball for the kid as well. I think I was a kid to go to Mike puts you up to this. You want to ask him a Florida question to Florida boys?

I can do that as well. Uh, you, uh, do you prefer the golf or do you prefer the East Coast? Where do you, like, if you're vacation or you're the family going out, kind of more relaxed, like, in Maria? Where are you going, like, Coco?

Um, I mean, Coco and Daytona's phenomenal group going there.

“Uh, but I think, I mean, the golf water.”

We live here, but the golf water. Like when you can walk in, like, waste height and still see your feet. It's nice first. You know, over here. It's a little darker.

In a guy I see. It's okay. Since you are incredibly athletic. How do you do you want to skin board? Uh, okay.

Haven't skin boarded in a while. Uh, used to be good at it. I caught a toe a couple of times. You know, you're like bang the sand off the back of the bang your toe.

Um, it's been a couple of decades, but we could try again.

Awesome. Thank you. All right. Good question. Great question.

Okay. Sorry for the, this is so hot. It's so hot. This has been great. It's been awesome day.

We appreciate you coming here and doing this with us. And we, like, checked the box. We not only built a playground for a kid fighting cancer, but Got to hang out on construction site. That's right.

It's more of a signal. Yes. Yeah. It's going to be awesome. Yeah.

Outside the sauna. All right. Big portals. Okay. Let's wrap up the show.

We've got guys on grit Hank. Put this in your vlog. Do you film this act? Uh, what's up? Father three BFT, honk.

Batgirl, Connor, and Zach. There's a throwback question for guys on grit. What's the most inconvenient minor injury that a man that a guy would have to play through the pain slash time insert grit in an office job?

“Like an injury where you have to go to work?”

Yeah. Paper cut. Let's see. I'll throw on your foot. I broke my foot.

Big cat cat. Bit by dog. Hmm. Candystones. Minor thing that you'd play through?

No. For an office job that I got out of to play through. Good views on the question. So the question is like, what is two week of an injury to call and sick for work for? Got it.

So like if you got a sprained ankle, but it's really bad. Yeah. You can't do that. You got to go to work. I think I broke my foot.

Came into work. Yeah. You got to go at that. Yeah. I think honestly, you can take work off for nothing.

Like you can lie about an injury. Which is actually more masculine. Li-green. Then actually having like a small injury that you do call and sick. I think it also depends on how it happened.

If you like say break your leg because you got hit by a car, that's totally fair to be like, hey, I need a couple days. If you break your leg because you were like, you know, skiing out of a helicopter or, you know, it's awesome or playing like a shitload of pickup basketball.

It's like fuck. I should, you know. Yeah. I've grown adults. I probably shouldn't have been doing this stuff to put myself in harm's way.

I gotta go to work. Back when I lived in Austin, I, I dislocated my shoulder really bad. Had to go to the hospital. They couldn't get it back in for about an hour and a half, two hours.

And I told my boss that I was going to miss work the next day, because I dislocated it playing rugby, but in reality, I dislocated it playing kickball. I don't really kick it to that. But it's like what I can say that.

Yeah. When I broke my finger playing, a goalball on the act where you just laid down on the ground, blindfolded and roll a ball back and forth. That was a tough one to be like, hey.

Or when I, when I had a tear of my hamstring, running from eggdoss. Those are ones. It's just like, you don't want to tell anyone. Yeah.

It's way cooler for you to like tear your hamstring,

Because because of the grass.

Yeah.

“Because one, because Max called me a pussy,”

and then we went down the line of calling each other a pussy. I don't think anyone called me a pussy. I think I was calling myself a pussy. No, it was, it was, it was going to be just me, or just Max running until he called me out,

and then it was just everyone has to run. He knew what he was doing. It was so easy. Yeah. I actually looked at the guys from UNC.

And I was like, watch this. He's going to do it in a minute. And I fully admit how easy. Like, I could do the same to you. Oh, yeah.

It's just, we, we have a problem as guys. And then PFT has a problem where we just yell at him for doing athletic things. And he's like, no, I can do it. I can do it.

I can do it. Again, I'm retired from running. I'm a yoga guy now.

So we have like one thing pop up being like a run.

Yesterday, we were at Florida Stadium. We were doing an explosive squat to see our explosive numbers, which couldn't be worse thing for PFT to do. And I physically had to go over and pull you off of the machine. He did.

Yeah. Listen, I see dudes competing. I want to compete. Sorry. I started a new job three weeks ago.

My new boss took me golfing. I'm a Bowie golfer. I was probably plus 53-9. The lights were too bright. Got too nervous.

Just absolutely no grit. We, plus 53. That's not even being able to hit the ball like five feet. Yeah. How do I get gritty on the golf course?

Absolutely not switching the lefty. You don't have to get gritty on the golf course. Could you imagine, like, this is a real thing that I think a lot of dudes probably have to struggle with is like, the golf is part of their job in some capacity and being that bad.

Well, Hank, I wasn't talking about you. And being that bad has got to be absolutely miserable. I think it matters. It matters big time. What kind of job you have.

Like if you're in a sales shop and you're hitting this tail. You're not closing your ears.

“You should be fired if it's like an outside sales roll.”

Yeah. You're going to be out with clients. I'm sorry. It's not going to work out. Now, if it's like customer service and you're doing a good job like making fun of yourself

as you mess up, that could be a good thing. So I need to know what kind of job it's got. If it's like manual labor and your boss would just like, let's go and play some golf. That might also be a good thing. Just be like, as long as you're like, this sports gay.

Yeah. And they'll be like, yeah. You got to just, uh, you got to just get really, really good in secret and then show up and and be awesome and be like, yeah, I watched one YouTube video boss. That's what that would be my advice.

Love the show. Great interview with Coach Bellcheck. It's such a great lesson. Each time you have a big time coach on the show. Question about grit from a guy, also named Zach.

Why is it harder to stay gritty about small daily habits than about big dramatic goals? I don't know what we're all lazy. By the way, I just disagree with that. Did, well, aside from that, just popped in my head. We learned a fun fact in the van.

Zach, what's your middle name? Anthony. So what are your initials? Uh, Aziz. Aziz.

Aziz. Aziz. Aziz. Aziz. Yes.

It's fucking rock. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So anytime you get something monogram to just say Zach. Aziz.

Aziz. Yeah. I don't really, I disagree. I don't agree with what they said. I do.

You're just like day to day. Like, overall you can be gritty but day to day. You can be lazy. Like, I'll do the dishes tomorrow. That's what you said.

Oh, I thought he was saying the opposite where it's easier to be gritty about day to day. Can you read it again? Yeah. Read it again. He wasn't listening.

I was listening.

“Why is it harder to stay gritty about small daily habits?”

Oh, yeah. He's a big traumatic old. So I agree with this guy. Good point. Excellent point guy.

I don't know because, yeah. If you really care about your long-term goal, go on something then you're going to stick to it. What were you just saying? Goal. If you really care about your long-term goal then you're going to stick to it because you actually care about it.

And that's like why you do everything in your day to day life. But like, you don't really care about moving the lawn. Yeah.

And you can always just do it tomorrow.

Right. But tomorrow is never promised. Yeah. I mean, this is every person in the world where it's like trying to get daily habits routines and it's hard to do. But if you're like, hey, I have a goal, the five-year plan, you can visualize it.

It's how I end up in most of my situations. All right. Last one. Most of your situations. Like dunking.

Yeah. I've read everything. Six bags. Six bags. Six bags.

I got you said. Why the buddy pregnant? I got a few of those today. Lefty golfing. Lefty golfing.

It's been going well though. I posted a picture of me last night that I've never looked fatter than it.

That was crazy.

That was a horrendous picture.

Wait. Was it the one where you're saying, from the van, he would head to the corner. He would head to the corner. I said, you saw me taking a picture. Wait, Danny, what had it was in that picture?

I couldn't see it. Max blocked all the things. It was the worst picture of me ever taken. You saw me taking the picture. Whatever.

You did. I said, turn off the light. I'm taking a picture. You didn't. You didn't tell me you're doing a panorama.

It's like it spreads them out. It's up to 2%. Did your phone? It ate up all the memory on your phone. You got it?

Last one. Then a golf caddy in the past 10 summers.

Or a movie Chicago in a few weeks.

I've been a golf caddy in the past 10 summers. Frankly, I'm not making as much money as I like. I'm thinking about cadding on weekends. Once I start my job to help get some money saved up, I'm broke a shit right now.

“Is this gritty and strategic or corny in a bad way to start post-grad life in a new city?”

No. That's gritty. I like that. This guy's got grit. Yeah.

Gritty's how? Gritty's how? It's good hustle. I'm like in the picture. It means for a bad lighting.

How do you look that bad? I look pretty bad. I have a war of specter, Max. And it's actually very unfair because Max, you look good. You look slim.

You do look so powerful. Nobody looks her best. Post 10 hours in a car.

Through different states fueled entirely on gas station snacks.

There was a lot going on because I was trying to take a picture. But it was also over time of the spurs game. I was watching on my phone. I was trying to get the battery off. It's a lot going on.

My bad Max. Sorry about that. Yeah, it's okay. I have enough bad angles out there.

“It doesn't really affect me too much anymore.”

That's my bad. All right. Good show boys. Numbers. 101.

12. Nice gas tank. 12. He's on his troll. That was a funny guy.

That was a good big. He's on his troll. That was another one of Hank's little six waves. He's on his troll. He's on his troll.

He's on his troll. It's going to be a long couple days. I'm going to go a 61. Yeah. When you get tired, then you get loopy.

All right. 77. Anyone else? 11. 27.

It is. 65. Hmm. Good. No one wants good.

What do you want? What do you want?

“When that happens, I hope that my number isn't.”

I know. I won one of those. I want to. Yeah. I don't even want to know that.

I won. May 20th, shout out. Happy birthday to hard factor will. Also shout out to Jason Worth. Not for life.

World Series champion. Shout out to Patrick Ewing. He had to tape his dick to the side of his leg. It was so big. Happy birthday to David Wells.

And then on Thursday, it's Josh Allen's birthday. That's great day. Josh Allen. Happy birthday to Bobby Cox or IP. Happy birthday to Crispin Wa.

I can't believe that's crazy. That's crazy. Whoa. I also covered all the bases. I don't know.

There might be somebody on that bill. I can't believe PFT forgot Crispin Wa's birthday. And then Hank will be like, "Oh, I'll be if you're so bad at this." I also, I can't. The crossface crippler, I'll give you for good.

But before. I can't believe we did a fucking 10 minute segment about Alcaras. I'm sitting or sucking each other off. It was just a totally fake. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I was crazy. I booked marked it in the middle of the game last night. I was like, I'm going to go back and revisit this. And then I forgot to go back and revisit it.

And it was in my bookmarks. Because I was going to use it for today's show. And then it turns out to be a fucking tennis central account. All right, see you. Let me go.

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