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And then we have Coach Tom Iso on the show. It feels like every single year we have Monde right around now because he's every single year. He's in the sweet 16.

“We're going to do hotseek cool throne. We're going to do a little mini baseball preview, right?”

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Welcome to part of my take. We're going to buy draft kings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, March 25th. And it's PMT Spring Break. Woo. Let's go. Someone take your top top off. Oh yeah. Show your titties. It's tit week. It's tit week. That should be actually like that's

a nice addition. We should do boobs to the annual calendar tit week. Yeah. First boob. Go. Zach.

First boob. First boob. It was definitely movie centric or demon IRA. Yep. Your mom. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, yeah. Get the life. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Shout to mothers. The original. Yeah.

“Original families. The original cream team. Oh no. PMT. What are you not saying about his mom?”

heavies. She is. Yeah. I'm not sure you're very, very lady. We're just possible. That's just the horniness that happens on Spring Break. I did a valet mom. Yeah. I just valet my soul. Thank you. Thanks mom. Yeah. We're in Arizona Spring Break. How's everyone feeling? I feel like we had a nice day and a half of getting in the sun after March madness. Yeah. I did a 16 hour fast where all I had was a bowl of cereal and a half a turkey sandwich. That's pretty good.

I did a 16 hour slow. I went out for wings last night. Nice. Just to kind of like ease my way out. It's my way of easing my way out of this stuff that we've been eating for the past like six days. Yeah. It's just like I didn't do a full order wings. I had like eight to ten wings. Yeah. Just to kind of like let me down gently. How's everyone else feel? I'm great. I know it's spring break and we want to like take it easy to take some time off. But I I still want to stay focused

the last night. I went to a very militaristic restaurant. Had some good food at that at Houston. A good establishment. A great family establishment family. A family establishment. Super super nice. But I I re-watched the biz video and he's just like greatest

“establishment. Very militaristic operation over there. I think I think when he said that he just”

didn't know what a chain was. He just and I think he's meant it's like run well. Yeah, like the bus of people outside work there. So they have standards and everybody there has like good haircuts. Yeah. And everyone follows their assignments and then does their job. They all appear to be under the age of 42 now. Yeah. Yeah. They run a nice tight ship. Great restaurant now. Yeah. Are we going to or are we going to have to because that was so the age for

service now 30 has been extended 33 to 42. It's up to 42 now. We're 41. That felt personal. It felt very personal. They Uncle Sam saw me in Big Cat's bodies and they were like,

perfect for the front line to just get mowed down. Yeah. Listen, I will listen, I it's well documented if you put me behind the scene of an F 35. That's the F. I'm not getting shot down. You'd puke because you're scared of heights. I'm terrified of heights. That part would be a problem. Is a problem. Yeah. All right. So sports news where we got going on the world. Hubert Davis officially fired. RIP. You got to make Bradstay even say no. You got a call. He is

“going to say no. Yep. But you have to make him say no. I did see there was a message board I”

wanted to share with you guys from a Carolina fan. What do you think they're fantasy highways? They're fantasy high fantasy. I have regular fantasy in reality. Okay. They're fantasy higher. I don't know that there's that much of a fantasy higher besides like the Billy Donovan's or the of the Bradstay, even to the world. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You would think that. No. Fantasy's Kelvin Samson. Realty is Bradstay. That's his first. They said fantasy Kelvin Samson,

reality Bradstay even's Luke Murray. My husband wants Tony Bennett, but his style ball makes me want to claw my eyes out. Yeah. I don't know that they want Tony Bennett just because he coached up the road in Charlottesville. I don't think they want him. I I could see them going after a couple NBA guys. I could see, you know, the the funniest he'll turn possible would be if JJ Reddick took that job. That would be great. That would be so funny. Not going to happen,

obviously. But but it's just very funny. The reality is Bradstay even's for Carolina fans

because this is a job. You know, Hubert Davis was kind of hand-picked, succession, all that stuff. This is a job that doesn't come open very often. And it is a true blue blood job. Even if you listen to everything J William says, which he did you see that take he had. He's like, if it wasn't for the logo, no one would be talking about UNC because it's not really a blue blood. Well, yeah, the logo is pretty important, dude. It's the it's the logo of a team that's won a ton of

national titles and a ton of final force. Yeah, it's it's blue blood. Yeah, it's like Duke would not be nearly the brand that it was if it wasn't for UNC and that rivalry. It's like they both feed off. If you take away if you take away the name Duke and the logo, it wouldn't be Duke. Not at all. Yeah, so it's good point. But yeah, so it's interesting because I do think they could get pretty much anyone they want. They should be able to. I mean, it should be one of the best jobs in

the country. I, everyone keeps saying NATO's. I think that we should keep that rumor going up. I think they're very heavily and there's there's mutual interest. I think NATO's cultural fit there. NATO's is extremely interest in the job. It'll be interesting to see if he's able to focus on his

team this week. Maybe the most important week that they have. But when people be talking about

NATO's as much of this job, if you didn't wear those jackets, they feel like they feel like Carolina jacket. Carolina blue jackets. Yeah. And like just the words, the plaids. It feels like he's been accepting people into anticipating him being the next UNC coach for a while. I don't think he'd be great fit there. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Otsilberger's going to be a name that they talk about.

“I got a name. I know if you want to go. I'm a shame to admit that I've fallen in love with this”

person because they are technically a rival, but I have fallen hard for Ben McCall. Yeah. I've fallen hard. I've read a lot of Ben McCallum this last week. Last few days after beating Florida, this guy fucking rocks. He just wins everywhere. He also Iowa is the Cinderella that everyone's been planning for. If you look at Iowa and like their roster and where these guys started playing college basketball, Ben &starch was the Northwestern and Surrey State. They had a Robert Morris,

two Wyoming, two Drake, one Northwest Florida State. Like this is your Cinderella. This is not a roster of five star recruits of guys who are making $7 million. This is your Cinderella. And

Ben McCallum always talking about like toughness. And I saw this other thread where it was a coach that

basically coached a vision to and essentially said, we spent our entire time trying to beat their team. And no one else. And he's like, that's all. It's the hardest nut to crack. The way he's able to manipulate games with pace and the point car position. And I fall in hard and fast for Ben McCallum. I mean, it's a great story. Yeah. Iowa's story is great. I think in the big 10,

“if you're looking at coaches that you have to, you have to call it, yeah, you got to talk to Dusty.”

You got to make him say no. You got to make Dusty may say no. A lot of knows you got to get. And there's a lot of people that you want to keep in the building too. Like you can't let him leave if they get there. Right. So if they say yes to visit, then you got to keep them there. Dusty, I think, would be a guy that you can't let him leave without a contract. I think people are talking about Danny Hurley. I think you do have to make Danny Hurley. Have to make him say no. Yeah.

Kevin Willer to say yes. No. Right. But you also don't want Kevin Willer to stand up if you say does anybody object. Right. That's true. That's true. So yeah, we'll be interesting to see what happens. I would, what do you guys early takes on these games because we're going to we're here till Saturday. So we'll be recording after the games on Thursday. I'm just juiced up for the for the sweet $16. I'm juiced. I'm ready to go. I like Purdue. I like Purdue a lot. I like Arkansas.

A cuff versus Arizona. Yeah. It's going to be incredible. It's going to be excellent. And then I

like Houston, but big shocker there. I always like Houston. Yeah. Yeah. I actually think going like

when that game shadow Tom Finnelly. He's going like that. I said this. What else is what else is going on in the sports world? I got my most kickass guys in the tournament. Okay. Go on. I want to make our five. Yeah. I mean, cone cars my one. Okay, cone cars on the list. It's got to be still in the tournament. Still in the tournament. Yeah. A cuff and cone car have to be one, one, two, easy. Okay. I nominate Jojo Tugler. Okay. Not the best player on the team, but probably the most kickass player.

Yep. What about LeBaron? Yeah. LeBaron filing. Yeah. Yeah. He's kickass. He's got to be on there. And then what's the same? Gatoroid, the steroid, the jacked up, Florida fans. He's not in the tournament. I know he got balanced, but I feel like he should be on tournament. But he'll kick your

“heel kick or act. I think we got to kick sass. What? Zubi kick sass was a four or five. Do we should”

get five? I think no. No. No. I think we got to get Sam Hoyberg on there. You got to have a coach

son. Yes. Sam Hoyberg. Okay. That's a great starting. So I think that might be six, but that doesn't find, that's fine. Just make the graph. I think we got three point cards. Wait. What we see was we've cone car, a cuff, Sam Hoyberg, Zubi, Jojo Tugler. Jojo Tugler. And then there was one other, right? LeBaron. LeBaron. Yeah. All right. That's our starting five and having to be six names. Yeah. Those are the most kickass. I actually think that's a great list. And then maybe

underneath say did not make the roster boozer. Would you like to make the case in the Florida guy? Yeah. And the Florida guy. Would you like to make the case for loser? I mean he's the highest traffic left in the tournament. Oh, they've already done the draft. He's going to be the highest traffic left in the tournament. You don't know that. What about his medicals? What if his medicals

“aren't great? I think he's the most exciting player. We don't know that. Yeah. You know what?”

Wait. You said most exciting? You think he's more excited? He's not. That's what I'm saying about. I didn't mean as a slight against the guy. I don't think he's like a big man. It's a different art. He's a different art download. He's a unbelievable player. But he's not more exciting than Darius. This is everyone talks about, you know. In fact, I would say he's not exciting at all. No. You just don't respect the postgate. Here's a flash guy. I'm not a flash guy. No, that's

not true. We have, I mean, Zuby and Hoiber. Yeah. Hoiber just fucking gritty as fuck. Is he big? No. No. Jojo. Big heart. I respect the post. I was shocked when I looked it up about, about Tugler because he does play like he's seven feet tall. I think he's like six, seven, or six, eight. It's like, you know, Dwight Howard. Yeah. Very relatable. Dwight Howard. It is. It's probably the most, six, seven is probably the most relatable thing across all ages. Yeah. It does. It's

“more famous than I show speed. But he's one of those guys like Dwight Howard that I think he,”

he just appears to be way taller because he's got the big wingspan. But yeah, that actually shot him up my most badass guy because he's a sinner who's like six, eight. Are you nervous about Duke, okay? Not St. John's. No. They're going to grind you more worried about Yucon or Michigan State. St. John's though. They just play, but you know, so fucking good, man. Do you trust Sean? It might be the best coach ever, just in terms of having to go as many stops as you go.

It is that the coaching, obviously, it's just experience like that. That's the biggest experience disparity. But I think it can be a good test for Sean. If there's 13 seconds, who do you trust to get a shot off? Rick Patino? Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. And with two seconds of spare. Yeah. John'shire, great coach. Good coach. Good coach. Good to win. Not great yet. Yeah. He's green. This is how you go. Go from Greece. He's got to go against the big dogs. Yeah. Big time. Okay.

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So Iowa? A lot of black and gold. Iowa Purdue. Should I pick the later game so that we have

“something to maybe have waiting for us? I think Arizona might kill them. I think Arizona might kill them.”

Trust you, good. Okay. We'll do that. Iowa Purdue Arizona. Okay. Yeah. We feel good about it. No. I don't either. No. I don't have anything I don't like. Should we hit the ball of them? You want to flip all of them? Yeah, you want to. All right. All right. New Brasca, Texas, Arkansas. Okay. All right. All right. Yes. This will be interesting to see how this works out. Yeah. I'm excited for Jack to read this text because I have to send it to him every time we do it. So I just said Iowa Purdue Arizona spreads for the parlay,

just kidding. Flip all of them. Yeah. I just felt I flipped it over. About all of them. Yeah. Because I was like, I do think Arizona is significantly better than Arkansas. But then think about betting against a cuff seven and a half points just makes makes me want to puke. Right. And I think that Purdue is a lot better. Obviously a lot more experienced than Texas, but then also Sean Miller's awesome. But then code Purdue. Yeah. And Sean Miller. But then Purdue.

“You have to shut. You might have to make Sean Miller say no. Sean Miller in round of 16.”

You want him to say no. Round of eight. Yeah. You want him to say I don't know who this is. I'm not taking this job. Oh, um, I did think of one other huge, huge name that they're probably thinking about in Chapel Hill right now. Tom Creen. Yeah. Tom Creen. You have to, I've, for my sources, I'm hearing that Tom Creen is a finalist for the job. Make him say no. And when they fire a Heber Davis, they did so with the understanding that they had Tom Creen as an option. Yeah. I like that a lot.

By the way, this weekend. So we have 47 MLB games, 12 NCAA men's games, 20 NCAA women's games, NBA NHL playoff push, World Cup. Uh, I guess there's qualifiers. So yeah, Italy plays against Northern Ireland on Thursday. And if they lose, then Italy's out of the world cup. Okay. You see F here. You're in front of the island. Oh, yeah. You ask everyone in action college baseball and softball conference play. We have a sports conference weekend. A lot of meaningful sports. Yeah.

Very excited for that. Uh, okay. Should we talk baseball? Which is starting on

“Thursday, technically Wednesday night. Yeah. So, scoring Yankees, giants. Did I get that right?”

On Netflix. I knew that nailed that. I knew all that. The hand is throwing out the first pitch.

What? You heard me like from Super Smash Bros. Close. What is the hand? What? What did you say? The hand from throwing out the first pitch? What is the hand? The hand from the show Wednesday from Netflix is throwing out the first. God, God. I'll be great. I love cross. I love integrated cross promotion. Yeah. Yeah. It's the best. Hell, yes. Okay. So what, uh, what do we think of our baseball? Uh, it's bad. It's pretty cool. It's back. Is it possible? It could be a week and a half early.

Yes. I, I've been saying this like, I can't remember how many, I can't believe how many times I've said this to different people, like the fact that the Cubs have five games in March at Rigly is bullshit. It just, it feels like what should be next Thursday. Not this Thursday. No, I'm excited for

great offseason for baseball. In fact, a great postseason into a great offseason. Yep. Kind of somewhat dampened by the fact that it seems like the Dodgers are just going to win it all again. And there's going to be a lock-out. And there's going to be a lock-out. That's awesome. But we can just kind of like

forget about all that for a second. Um, I'll let you guys do your, your positive spends and what

you're thinking for this year. I'm going into the season. Uh, this is going to be a very tough year for me because we're in year seven of Rigbyl and DC with the expectation again being another 90 lost season. You're seven of that. Now we did overhaul the front office and I think we've got a direction. We traded away all of our good players. CJ Abrams is probably going to be traded away

“this year. The only thing I have to look forward to this season is James Woods just being a”

fucking monster and getting 35 plus home runs. Yeah. That's the only thing that I'm going to the season looking forward to as a, as a Nat's fan. Um, it's a, it's a sad state of affairs. When you, you're getting ready to start a long ass summer and those are your expectations. I'm bummed

out about that. I want to care about baseball again. I want to be excited about my team in baseball again.

It makes the summer so much better. But for seven years. Yeah. It's been this dog shit. And uh, yeah, just kind of a bummer going into it. You're kind of the tank master between this and the wizards. Seven year, yeah. Well, the difference is I have expectations and I like the national's. Right. Right. But like even still, it does suck going into a season. We're like, they're going to be dog shit. You know it right away. There's really nothing. I mean,

best case scenario. We overachieve in our new manager. We get a Blake managing the team. He's like 32 years old. That's cool. Um, maybe we overachieve and get 70 wins. Maybe 75. That's really the ceiling that I'm looking at this year. 75 wins. And we will do a full baseball preview during our dinners only in July 4th week. But this is just our personal team. Zach, what team do you root for? If I was going to root for Emily baseball team, probably had to be the race. The race.

Okay. Do you fall baseball? I don't fall. I don't fall them enough to have a baseball preview right this second. We'll give us a chance. Uh, you know, every since the roof came off after the storm, tough look. Uh, like that's that's bad energy for the team. Uh, but uh, they can persevere. They can push through. They're good about it. Tap a straw. Uh, hopefully strong enough. Yeah. Yeah. They were as you frisk you down the stretch last year.

They were flirting with the playoffs spot. We got to get past Fergation and like we got to

“we got around third. We got to get there. Yeah. You ever, um, you ever come to tell the race by mistake?”

They're, uh, I will say I did, I love the old Devory's logo. Yeah. They're so good. The old people won't throw backs. It's so awesome. And they started getting into the purples and the

teals all man. But I have, I have, I probably still never said it before. Yeah, post name change.

Yeah. By the way, I got, I got some pushmen because we're talking about old stuff. Some pushback about the nostalgia. Take I had on Monday because people were like, you guys wanted the Larry O'Brien trophy on the court. Yes, we did. But that was also less nostalgia. More like why would they not make the NBA finals feel special? I did get kind of owned today because someone had a similar nostalgia take and it was just that they missed the, like,

bubble dome, uh, domes that used to exist. Like the Indianapolis Colts one, the one of the Minneapolis. And I'm just, no, that wasn't bubble. Like, you know, the actual, like, big, what, like, looks like marshmallows. And I saw it. I was like, I kind of fucking agree with that. You just, like, I didn't just like, because it looked like marshmallow. Yeah. It's like, God, damn it. I just got nostalgic. It was the tastiest looking roof. I'll give you that.

But it was so funny because it was like, so was like, make the final four, look like this again. And the only difference was, it was just the old cult stadium, not Lucas oil. Yeah. No, it was just the only difference was a bubble dome. The nostalgia, the old courts. I don't give a shit about the old court. I don't. I really don't. I know. I don't love the new bracket

“center court thing. Yeah. I think that you could do that a little bit better. But yeah, I don't give”

a shit about seeing if this game's being. Also, you could tell for no California. Where it's being played because they have the where it's being played on the baseline and at the center court. Yeah. Either way, memes, mats. I think they're going to be better than expected. They'll probably start off the low because they have a ton of new guys. But I think they're really good. Boba shit. What's really good? I'll get a new dish. Say like, what's what's a successful season

over 91 and playoffs. Yeah. Have to have to make the playoffs. And I'll see us. And I'll see us. Okay. But fired up to new pieces. Love that. Yeah. Max. I think Philly's a regression goal. Still make the playoffs as a wild card team. They'll sneak in

what the expectation is, the ceiling for your team, the ceiling for the wash of nationals is the

Philly's losing the first round of playoff. And Bryce Walker goes home sad.

“Yeah. Is there you probably hit stall for Harper at that home run? Honestly, a little bit. Yeah.”

I fell into my Hank feelings a little bit. Because if we're going to lose the world baseball classic, I was really hoping that it was going to be a Bryce Harper strikeout. It was great all there was all the Harper haters were out full for whatever. We're not talking about world baseball classic. I'm actually the biggest Bryce Harper fan in the world. No, you're not. I am. I love Bryce Harper. When he left DC and he said, I can't wait to bring a world championship to Washington.

I thought that was a cool thing that he said and I was like, oh no, I'm a Philly. I misspoke, I meant to say Philly's. And then we want a championship and he didn't. That was awesome. I love him. Next is giving the thumbs up. He's giving thumbs up. He's he's he's he's not speaking. Hank. I'm just really excited to watch my favorite player, Garrett Whitlock, revenge tour. Game of the game winning RBI in the world baseball classic. I mean, he's been on team forever.

He's going to really prove himself the share and show the haters that he's one of the best relievers in baseball. I don't have expectations. I don't have expectations. I wish we kept pregnant. I like pregnant a lot. Yeah, he's the man. I'm happy he's in Chicago at least. But I just feel like the Red Sox ownership does not care about winning as much as just like being under the whatever luxury tax and saving money. Yeah. And probably will make the way off.

Damn. This was a depressing preview for everyone's teams. I I think the cops are going to be

really fucking good. I think they might, I think they're the second best team to the end out. So

I guess my expectations might be a little too high. But I think they're going to be really, really good. I think they should. They should definitely win the NL Central and be in the NLCS. That would be, that would be my ceiling. I don't know. The Dodgers are just still a monster. I think the Cubs are going to be really fucking good. I was there. I went to the game today. Got my first 50, 50 loss out of the way. I was able to see some of the players. My kids got to,

my kids got to take a picture of PCA. It was pretty awesome. Tons of Cubs are eight of you also. You just resigned today, right? He last night. Yeah. So they signed it. It's the interesting deal because he had four years left of control. We're arbitration years. The Cubs are, it's a, I think it's a five year deal starting next year. I love it because he's a, he's the type

“of guy you should bet on. And like he's a centerpiece type of player. He obviously still has,”

has like room to grow. He'd be the first person to say that. But I think he's an awesome player and like super star potential. Philly is a similar thing. Yeah. Yesterday too. They had Christopher Sanchez under like a very team friendly deal because they, they extended him before he became like Christopher Sanchez now. Yeah. And they just like basically were like, you're getting paid. You should be getting paid way more than you are. We're going to extend you a couple more years and like

really bump up. Right. Right. I mean, PCA doesn't have to go to arbitration. He gets this guaranteed money. And the Cubs on the other side, if PCA continues to get better and becomes like an MVP caliber, which he was for 70% of the year last year. But it's let's say he's an MVP, like one or two

MVP voter type of guy. He's on a, like, great deal for the Cubs. So I think it was like 115 million

over five years. So I'm pumped. I'm excited for the cut in Justin's deal coming back and May is going to be huge. I think that memes should be more excited about the mess. Yeah. I also had PFT on my side. I've reached, I got at the end two years ago. PFT had to put on a future for the 2021 26 Mets during our whole episode that we dug. PFT said we won't get to 2026. So I'll just place a future on the Mets when we get to 2026. Oh, so I got a bet on the mess. Yeah. I'll do it right now.

You're supposed to bet it back in February. I forgot to bet in February. Is it okay if I bet it now? Yeah. No. It's illegal now. Okay. I'm going to put a massive one right now, memes. Shane, you fall a lot of baseball. Were any of these takes? Do you agree with these takes? For the most part. Yeah. I think the Mets are super exciting. I disagree with Hank though. As a Red Sox fan, I'm pretty, I'm pretty pumped. They got Ranger Swarez. They got Sonny Gray.

That rotation is going to be one of the best in baseball. Sonny Gray is played baseball for a thousand. But he's still elite. I know. I know. I think it was just over like a three R. A last year.

“Like that rotation is going to be so good. It's just funny because I think I remember Sonny Gray”

when he was an electric rookie and it was. Athletics. 17 years ago. It was like 2012 or something like that. Yeah. I know it wasn't actually 17 years ago, but it feels like that.

Caleb Durbin. The the future's bright. Hopefully. Okay. It's a good preview. What, what are you guys? Great preview. It's a great preview. Great preview.

“It means you should be more optimistic though. No, I fired up.”

Who do you guys see how the how the team looks with all the new guys? But the Mets also did lose a lot of guys. They did they did a lot of it. And Lanzo on the order and do. Or else might be good this year. Or else should be good. Also, I forgot to mention. We have to have too far into an MLB preview. No, but you've seen that. Or else comment was dangerous. Yeah. Okay, but I've got one more thing. This is, this is actually really in depth. Could change everything I just said about the Nats. Okay.

We finally got an expensive pitching machine. Oh, that's the big, that's the big off season news.

Like, yeah, hey, congrats on getting boba shut memes. We got a new pitching machine. That reminds me bad news for the pitching machine we want to buy in the office. Because I found out today, because I think what you're talking about, the clubs have multiple of the most teams do. Yeah. And I asked about it. It's, you have to pay yearly yearly fee. Like, for the technology. Yeah. That's, we do that nice cream money. $75,000 a year.

Is that, I mean, we're spent a lot of money. We're spent a lot of money. It sounds like I'm just hoping us out of the ice cream machine now. No, I'm just saying, Max, get on the needle. It's been a lot of money. It's been a lot of money. We don't spend 75 can ice cream here, though.

What are we doing on the ice cream a week? You're in, you're in. I always do two cases a week

of each flavor. And what is the price? That's probably about $150.

“Topping. Topping selections. I think I'm not a mince that mincey paid for that.”

Yeah, it's paycheck. Yeah, mincey is topping specialists. And quite a few of the topping companies out there are great enough to be like, hey, try these topics out. So we've got some donate topping as well. Alright, I plug in if you're done here. You're a topping company and you want to pop off in a sock. Give me some top. Zack, this would be a good time to talk to you about your tweet from last night. Did this happen to you, guys, too? No, because we can track

how long a flight is. Big I go. We may have been dating. Oh, I got a little blinds, though. I I don't know the same thing. Read the tweet. Zack, your tweet was, I thought we were 10 minutes from landing three different times on this flight. We got to do something about time zones. Big I, it was, it was so confusing. Like the way I don't know if he was dipping in and out at different zones. But it just felt like it kept saying 710 arrival. And for like two and a half hours

of the flight, I looked on on my phone. I was like, it's almost 7 to get to 710. But and it just

never was. There was a world where we were just going to be in the air forever. Like it didn't,

I didn't see an into this flight coming anytime soon. But Zack, the flight time is like three and a half hours. Also sneaky, sneaky, big flight didn't know was three and a half. Yeah, we got kind of all the way out there. U.S. Pretty big. But what, what have you dosed off? I've done that before on a flight. You fall asleep and you wake up, you check the time, you're like, oh, we're about to land and they're like, oh, wait. Here's what I'm confused about, like, an hour into the flight. You're

“switched the times over. You like, oh, we're about to land. I think we switched, like, I don't know”

on airplane mode. I might not have switched. I don't know what there was a small nap in in in flight. I don't know how long or what time. But also, I'm not quite sure we switched that like an hour in. I think we might have switched. If we switched an hour in, we also switched like two and a half hours in because it clocked up. Yeah. Well, yeah. Mountain time, west coast time. And you wait two times. We start central, go to mountain, end up west coast. Well, that's also Arizona because

you go, it's, start central, go to mountain, go to Arizona because Arizona doesn't do daily savings. So there is a third switch. There is a third switch. No, there's just Pacific time though. No, it's not. We have to be right now. It's right now. It's Pacific time. Yeah. But we're not. We're not. There is no western time zone. We are in central time zone, just Arizona. One other is in one time. Yes. What's right? We're in, we're in the, we're in the

Pacific time right now. We had this conversation before. No, it's in, we're talking to, I think it was like a huge Texan's record against west coast teams. And imagine having this kind of confusion at that kind of elevation. Yes. Like, yeah. I don't know man. There's a way in the Pacific time zone right now, Max. Correct. But I need to look at it on the map. Talia's got to be so. She's sitting at 15 second fast forward button right now for sure.

Yes, Arizona is the address. Look, it's not something central. It's mountain. Arizona is mountain time. Right. Because they don't do, because they don't do both the like savings. Right.

no map. It was right. Like, but what I said was correct. It was. I said, but we'll switch in time

time and then you switching to Arizona. But Arizona is not like, I have a question that might I don't want to say what you're not fucking getting here. I have a question that can help explain.

“I think I think I'm sorry, Max. Right now, the people from the I heart podcast awards are”

sitting in a letter to our lawyers. Can we get that back? Is there? No, no, no, no, no, let's go back. I understand that. I understand that. But I'm just saying we, yes, we're in Pacific time. Right, but we're two hours back right now. You're in Pacific time. You keep saying that we go to Arizona. I get the part that we live in Arizona. All right. But it is Pacific time right now is, but it's is there a time zone. That one. This is still going. This is the deodorant all over again.

Or two hours or two hours. Or two hours. We're in Arizona. We are currently two hours back from when we live in Chicago. Okay, Pacific time zone is there a place we can go right now that is one hour back. Yeah, if we just go east anywhere east right mountain mountain. So we could go both ways for an hour. We were talking about crossing across going across time zone line. Right in America. We have not gone across the Pacific time zone line in America. We're right, but we're in the Pacific

time zone. Correct because you went into Arizona, which is what I said. Right, so he went two time zones. Yes, but it was like, but we flew three time changes. Correct. Yes. But it's because of Arizona. Not the exact point is. So it thoughts on universal time. What do we think? Yeah, like, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. We don't get like two minutes. But there's one time zone.

“Whatever big band says it is, that's what it is. Yeah, man. It's just we'll figure it out. We're just hopeless.”

One of our biggest, one of our biggest struggles on this podcast, it's forever or full time zones. Remember when we used to go back to year one? It goes back to, it goes back. That's just given up.

I've given up, given up on time zones. Yeah, I'll never beat them. But why does it feel like

to more we work through this? We're getting further away from knowing what time is going to be. It's, at least we get personally. We get angry. It just fucks us up. Time makes us angry. He's not angry. He's still really fucking angry. Yeah, he was just crazy. I'm right. I know, but I am too. Me too. We're all right. I get what you're saying. You're still in the mountain time zone. We were just nowhere in Pacific time zone.

In America, we are in the mountain time zone. Right, but we're, we're practicing Pacific time. Correct. But in America, we are in the mountain time zone. Right. It's just that Arizona doesn't do daylight savings. Right, and the mountain time zone. We're currently in the Pacific time zone, right? We're literally in the Pacific time zone. We'll get any map of American time zone. Would they go, we're, the Pacific time.

You're, you're a slave to the map to big map. We're Pacific time zone. No, the time is, listen dude, we're in the lot, but hey, hey, Max, Ren McNally's not going to fuck you, bro. I don't know who Ren McNally is. Clearly, we're in the Pacific. What's the sound guy thinking right now? What are you thinking? Are you thinking this is the dumbest thing you've

“ever listened to? What was your name again? I'm sorry, Adam. Adam, what are you thinking right now?”

I understand the confusion, but we just don't believe in changing time. Right, what time zone are in? We're in a mountain standard time. Right, but currently we align with Pacific time, but then we don't change. Right. And we have to compensate for all of you that change. Right, point, Max, point, Max, but it's still wearing Pacific time right now. Yeah, it's the same time as Pacific time. Right. Yes, it's the same time as, that I will agree. That's it. It's the same time.

It should just sit from the start. Yeah, why did you say that? That's basically what I said. No, it's that. You said air, we landed in Arizona, because so we're in mountain, we're in mountain acknowledging Pacific. Correct. So currently practicing Pacific in mountain. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We're a mountain time zone dressed up as Pacific time zone. No, it's a mountain, we're presenting. Yeah, we're presenting the Pacific time zone. And we respect Arizona's right to choose,

which time course it wants to be. All right, we nailed it. No, it wasn't, that wasn't going to go anywhere. Okay, anything else was too hot, see cool throw. He was, I feel like he was about to attack me.

Now he got very angry. I think the problem is I started crying laughing, which is never,

that's like a trigger for it. It's like a bull seeing red. I don't like, I don't like that. I couldn't help myself. I wanted to see that. What did you see? The one is, it's the heat.

will get a little tires. I go here to 60 so fast. Yeah, sure. Sure. Okay, yeah,

“either way, I don't think we're going to be able to get one of these pitching machines.”

Yeah, yeah, they're all spoken for the different pitching machine though. My favorite part of

that story with the Nats was like, we are finally at the level where we will spend money on a pitching

machine and it's not for the batters. The first thing we did was we had the pitchers step into the cage against the pitching machines so that our GM could show them their own stuff. What so that they could feel good about, oh shit, I'm nasty. I'm a nasty pitcher. Look how good my stuff is. Okay, which seems like the saddest way to start a season. Yeah. It's like you're good enough, pal. Absolutely. Damn. Yeah. Again, not great. Things aren't great in our nation's capital. No.

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coverage options are selected by the customer availability and eligibility vary by state. Were you going to protect me when mask came at me like that? Yeah, he was never easy. He was telling you. Those were what they do. I think you're bought. I just wanted to say that. Yes, and you're all parked real bite. It is. One thing about masks. That was a mistake. If you started, we're back in my ass over time. So he started looking wailing on me and everyone

had like stopped doing what are you doing? We are back in the origin place of the thing. If I yeah, that's true. Arizona is a trigger for you. Yeah, it's a place. I would be the fuck out of it. I would be the fuck out of it. What thing about you? All right. Anyway, transition. That's what's moving from that. My hot seat's the Philadelphia 76. They had a tribute video for Jared McCain. What? They traded away near months ago. Are you talking about Jared McCain? They drafted one

year ago. Look at the year for three months. Came back and seemed like he was maybe the most Philadelphia 76 from all the time. More than AI. Like the reception that he received was it was heartwarming. Yeah, I mean, playing great. I mean, how it's, we can't exist. We get in trouble for cheering to, we get in trouble for booing all of our players. And now we're getting in trouble for cheering for players. I did not, I did not put the 76ers fans on my hot seat. No, you can't

organize the organization. Oh, yeah, no, that's that's that's crazy to have a fair comeback video

for that. Yeah, trade him in the first place didn't make sense. And then to be like, yeah,

let's honor this guy. They fucked up. They fucked up. They fucked up. They fucked up. So I know that 10 minutes video. It's not. It didn't be video. We are the highlights with the sixers. Yeah. Jim. Yeah. We got hurt. They did a 10 minute video for 10 minutes. We are in a different time zone right now. So you don't know that. We got to stop talking about time. Max, why, why, why would the front office do that? Why would you do the feels like it's like, I'm just a mini that they're

wrong to trade them. Why would you do that? I don't make these decisions. I'm not even a tamer for this episode. Can you guys, let me out, I'm not talking to you. I have a question. I have a question.

“Max, like, I think it goes right now. I'm just going to look like you guys just yelling off camera”

the entire time. Max, I have a question. Who set up the cameras? I don't sit. When we go on the road, I don't sit on the camera. I don't, I'm not on the camera. Why would you do that? I don't sit on the camera. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I like Jeremy Kane. I'm happy that Jeremy Kane got a warm welcome. It too. What you were saying? Max, would you, um, could you see, how are we doing something like this? Probably not. Why, why don't you have

the same anger? Like, you don't get as riled up about that. It's almost like you expect to sixers to screw up. Yeah, the sixers are, I want the sixers season to end. That's where I'm like a super villain. I want it. I want to be a villain with this season with the sixers. You sound

play and bullshit. Play and Zorps. The worst worst place to be in. Absolutely worst. Max, didn't

Jeremy Kane draw a diss track on the sixers after they traded them. Oh, really? Did us. Wow. There's a Zack. He's so cool. But no matter what Zack just goes to back to Twitch streams. Jeremy Kane went on a Twitch stream one time and said one line about the sixers.

“And was it mean? I just felt like a diss track was worth noting. Was it on a Twitch stream?”

That's a true point. Was it a live rap? Was it a live verse? Yes. That speaks to his talent as a musician. Yes. So the platform? He said a line about the sixers on a Twitch stream. That was what was the line. I don't remember. I don't think there's ever something that you can't be like this person said this on a Twitch stream and have it be something good.

No, there's been like a lot of time. Hey, this person says something on a tradition. Oh,

should I go check it out? They probably said something really nice about me. No, that's where you drop your distance. Oh, I've got, I've got the, uh, I've got the official lyric here. So it's during a Twitch live stream, McCain danced along to a new track from plaque boy max, which contains the lyric. We better not run into Philly because if we do shit going gets sticky. So that's a plaque boy max. And that's the guy. Shocker, the thunder would

“beat the sixers if they run into each other. And that that's the guy you should go get. That's the guy”

you made a 10 minute video for. Damn. Good hot C. Egg. Great hot C. My cool throw is canoes. Favorite Italian dessert. Yeah. My cool throw is that's Tiger Woods. I like it. I like to hear me, too. Oh, I mean, dude, we're, let's just throw this out there because I want to know what the AWS think would they be interested in us doing a termist who crawl this summer, where we go, we try to termist who at seven or eight different restaurants in a row on a

run. Our guy Shane wants to do this. We don't have any meals whatsoever just to end. Yeah. Just one termist who after the other. We can use many. We could use many for it. Yeah. Go stop to stop. Would they would you would people be in on the termist who crawl for a video of that? Sound off in the comments. They're like, it's going to be like a that's baseball thing. Like that's got to be there's got to be so many termist who crawls out there. Oh yeah, for sure. We're

definitely going to there's going to be like a termist who fest that we just missed. They're going to be like mad that we're just jacking their idea. That's baseball. It's got to be on the top. Yeah. Hello, those guys. I actually checked in with them because we're in Scottsdale. I had a

“respect that taxi. I was like, hey, just you know, I'm on your turf. That's a respectful move, right?”

You don't want to you're running into someone like randomly on the street and then like their crew comes up on you. Yeah, because I'm like, you see cats here. Yeah, right. Exactly. My cool drone, other cool drone Tiger Woods kind of kind of hot seat. We were talking. They were he played in the TGL finals. We were talking about sad banners the other day or funny banners. And I was hoping that Max Max's team would win the finals. So we could hang up a TGL band, a Jupiter.

Oh, what did it say? TGL bander, but they they they lost. That's the thing about Jupiter. Unlike Saturn, no rings. Yeah, right. Max drops from Jupiter. That's a good. That's a banger. That's a banger. We're so on such good stuff. So we wait to Tiger play. Tiger played. And they got killed. Why did he come? So we got to the final without Tiger. And then he he was like, oh, I got to play. Well, they've lost the first granted the final.

Right, but they got they they went all the way to the final. Right. How many rounds of that is a lot? A lot without Tiger. And then they get to the final the final final. And Tiger's like, well, they need me now. And I haven't played in forever. They just geared up for the masters. I was like, I'm going to get some some selfish. I hate Tiger realizes he cost the Jupiter. What are they called? Jupiter. G.C. Blinks or Jupiter. Links, a championship. All the Jupiter

links fans out there that have been dying for a championship. Is this how many seasons? Two and who's all two who's on Jupiter? Jupiter win last year. Max home of they did not win last.

Okay. So yeah, the the curse continues. Yeah. I actually say right now Jupiter is never going to win one.

Tom Kim or coworker Kevin Kisner. Oxhays on there. They kind of have a you know. It matches. It's really a super team. Max is the anchor. Max. I'm going to say right now. He's there every week. I don't want to speak on behalf of Max, but we're as representative of Max home, we're going to demand a trade. We have to get off Jupiter. This is bullshit. We have to get off Jupiter. It's crazy. It's crazy that we got Tiger Woods and we can't win. Yeah. Like they should

rig it for Tiger Woods. If this was live, they would rig it for Tiger. Who's spotted he take? Kisner. And was Kisner playing well?

ball. He's done four point out. Right. I knew that, but okay. He had Tiger got killed.

And Kisner was saying, I actually don't even know if Tiger got killed. I don't know how to fall this score sheet. You just he missed like a three. He missed a bad pot. He did. Yeah.

“I'm a motorcycle. He golf club man myself. Is that a golf club? I think that's the new team that”

I was good. How many teams? How many teams? How many teams are there? Brooks. They got to be holding that spot for Brooks. Yeah. Maybe they got LA, New York, Jupiter, Boston, the Bay, the Bay, Boston Common, probably six. Okay. Atlanta Drive, Atlanta Drive. They were last year's champions. Who could forget? Yeah. They went to Magic City. Probably.

So we have six teams and then Motor City looks like it's still to come.

Motorcy's an expansion team. Except, but my bet would be that Brooks might be on that. This is like a fever dream that you guys are talking about right now. It's I feel like we're video games have become reality. So the only time I've ever watched is the only time I've ever watched this is when Maxoma celebrated after a fake hole in one. I saw that. To make got it. What? Fake hole in one. It was a fake hole in one. Why do you do you get a hole in one? It was a hole in one

that's teammate got and then he jacked up his teammate in celebration. But it was a fake part. Well, it's there's no hole. Where they got a hole on the screen. He's saying jerseys jerseys hole more as a fake hole. No, it's real, but there's no hole. So there was so Jerry's just fake. Well, yeah. That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. But it still rocks. Yeah.

“And also if let's say a professional gets a hole in one of the simulator, you should not celebrate.”

Yeah. That's an act like you've been there before. But it sounds like they're on the hunt for a championship. But it also sounds like you haven't really competed. But it also sounds like Jupiter has a team full of not professionals. Kisner and Tiger Woods. Yeah, it's true. So what are we talking about? That it shouldn't sell. That's true. I'm going to hate this episode. It's all it's. It's all he's on. Subscribe. This is the boys around spring breaks. Bring

great rocks. All right. We're going to get a little loose of that. Could hot sea cool thrown hand. Good hot sea cool throw. Great job. Uh, my hot seat is short kinks. Hmm. So baseball is converting to the ABS system and they're having to measure all the players to see what their strike zone is. And through the official measurements that the players are doing, we've seen that there are a few guys that have taken some liberties with their listed heights in the programs. Ah smart. Uh, including

bone-ailer who I'm a bone-ailer fan. He was listed at six feet. Okay. He's five nine. He's five nine.

I'm five nine. I've never once ever claimed to be listed at five nine. Yeah. I'm listed at five

nine. I've never once thought about being, that's a big difference. Five nine to six feet. Your guy, pregnant would it be like five six to five nine? I'm not. Well, first of all, I'm not five six. No, I'm saying that would be like the difference. I am five eight and I say that I'm five nine. That's like me saying, I'm I'm six five five. Yeah. That's a big difference. Um, Breggman was listed at six feet. He's actually five ten. Yeah. But that's just like he wanted to be

six feet. Um, Connor Wong was six but one. He's actually five ten. And Gavin Lux went from six to to five eleven. So there's reverse. Yeah. Or certain of six to five eleven. Okay, shorter. Yeah. Yeah. He's five eleven. He was listed at six. Oh, God. So like across the league, there's guys that are crossing the six foot line that have just been lying about the poll time. Right.

“That's fair. God. You got to do that. Yeah. You have to switch with you over to that. Absolutely.”

Yeah. I'm probably like five, I mean, I'm six feet. But I think they might have probably five eleven and a half. That's an five tenor above yours. No. Yeah. Your six feet. Yeah. One spikes. That's sure you've got to remember spikes. Yeah. If they were wearing the cleats. Yeah. I all am saying six feet to five nine is crazy. No, that is not that's that's that's. Yeah. I think five ten and a half and you're okay with spikes. Yeah. My other hot seed is Tom Brady. Tom Brady issued an apology yesterday too.

It's actually issued a couple of apologies for this. Did you hear the Timber Carver story? No. So Tom, you're also not subscribed to Tom Brady's newsletter that he emails to you. He has a newsletter. Tom Brady's got a newsletter that he puts out. Could you subscribe? No, but I knew about it. Yeah. Are you shocked that PFT's subscribed? He's not subscribed. I'm not subscribed, but he recently, I think like two weeks ago, it pinned a touching tribute to the recently deceased Timber Carver.

Timber Carver got them. He floorioed him. No, Timber Carver died like three years ago. Oh, okay. So he got around to it. He finally had around to it. But it was the touching tribute made it seem like he just passed away. Just died. Like last week. Okay. But I guess, but it's different for different people. That's true. That's a fair point, Hank. He just had to lay it on set grief. You know what? What Tom Brady? I could actually see that like anything that happened during his

blank career. He never processed any of it outside of football. Yeah. Like Tom Brady probably never

processed 9/11. Yeah. He didn't. He was such a psycho all he cared about. Probably found out about it like two years ago. Yeah. So this is actually that would be the spend zone I would go with if it was Tom Brady. And then my cool throne doesn't matter. He was so back up when that happened. Well, yeah. And then after the game, the next game got delayed by a week. And then after that, that's when Drew bloods so got his spleen knocked out. So like without a sum of been ladden,

there would be no Tom Brady maybe. Yeah. Good point. You ever think about that? Shout out. Hmm. Sure. Shout out. You shout out.

“Sama? Did you shout out, Sama? Oh shout out. He should have Tom Brady. He should have who. I think that's”

going to have to be a cool cool. I think you just shout out, Sama. I didn't knives and shout out. Yeah, shout out, shout out to who? Brady. TV. Yeah. Love you. Brady's got he's got all the jokes recently. He's cracking wise. It's fun to see the the lighter set of Tom making fun of Jane Daniel's mom.

Tom Brady's never done anything weird with his kids. That makes him feel like they're too close.

If it jaded's mom did to Jayden, what Tom Brady did to his son. Everybody would talk about it. Is it true? It'd be a national news story. It's true. Okay. Anyways, my cool throne is Louis Suarez. Oh, the old soccer player that has a biting problem. Yeah. Because I think there's a new mouth on the block. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Depuca. Ha has been. What's the word I'm looking for? Accused. Accused by a young lady that he bit her thumb and her shoulder.

And she filed some sort of a legal filing and it shows the picture of a bite pattern that allegedly belongs to Puka. Depuca. And. Depuca has hired an attorney who dismissed the conduct as horse play. But admitted that the bite occurred. Oh, they said that. Yes, it left a temporary mark. So this is not a good lawyer. My problem is is Puka and Iku has hired the worst lawyer in America

to defend him against the biting allegations. You don't want your lawyer should never step

in front of a camera and say, yes, he did the shit, but in his defense, it's kind of horse play. Like boys will be boys. Yeah. You need a lawyer that's just that's just going to be like, you didn't do shit next question. Yeah. Two rows in house would never do this. So just keep keep an eye on Puka. Yeah. Keep an eye on Puka. That was a weird story. He feels like things are getting weird shit. Things have gotten weird with Puka in the last calendar year. He's starting

to get into that zone of like, I guess we need one of those water severs who like, there's just going to be a story that pops up. And yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I believe any of these switch stream and and bits someone. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. That makes perfect sense. Depuca. Depuca.

“Depuca. That's what he does. All right. My hot seat is all of us because I got a tweet that's been”

in my head for like four days. You guys see this, the dream job or not it may be it's not dream job, but this was from William Galway said had dinner at a local establishment last night and was informed that someone on staff was the designated TV remote guide to switch between games. No bartending, no waiting tables just ball. 10 out of 10 job 100% tip. That's the best job ever. Right. A lot of stress. A lot of stress, but also like not even someone to ask you like where

like where's the bathroom, you're like, no dude. I'm ball. Yeah. You got ball. It's it's some it's a great job. You got to get it right though. But you know this guy does. Yes. Zero. You don't do this job without immense pride in this job. I've actually, I've always been shocked at how frequently I'll be at a bar and and either yeah, usually at the bartender will have no idea how to change the channel. Yeah. Like that's if I was a bartender I would that's the first thing I would do. Right. Like

day one I'd be like give me all the remotes you got. But the fact that this guy doesn't do any you know everyone else that like in the back of the kitchen probably hates him too. Because he just shows up to work and he's like another hard day of just hitting the back button. You also have to

“be convict. You have to have conviction in your beliefs because if that's your full-time job,”

you're going to get dragged in a hundred different directions by different tables and you have to be you have to be firm and be like this is a better game. Yeah. This one stays on. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Barnes and Noble. Yeah. Barnes and Noble going to be a uh I think they're doing a

discount on their right now. Yes. On Barnes and Noble. So if you buy it on Barnes and Noble you will save some money also selfishly like I we've been told that if we can spread out where it gets bought we have a better chance of being a New York Times best seller. And I also think that that's something that all AWS should strive for too because then when someone makes fun of you listening to this podcast Talia you can be like well actually they're New York Times best sellers. So it's a pre-order

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ebook and the audio book as well and use code pre-order 25. Love it. That's code pre-order 25. You get 25% off when you pre-order and you get 35% off if you're premium Barnes and Noble member. No offense to our entire audience. What percentage of them are premium Barnes and Noble's? Okay. Zero. No. It's not it's there's at least one there's gotta be one. So yourself one percent I feel it feels ambitious. Yeah. Yeah. Wait I'd say it's gotta be at least two. I would like to

“know. Two percent is high. I'm I think it's so low. I like I would be I'd considering being like”

let's invite all the premium Barnes and Noble people to the office. We will be like we'll have to buy two large pizzas. We're good. Yeah. You know what uh tag memes if you are a Barnes

and Noble premium customer. First one I I brought a Hank doll with me first one gets the Hank doll

love that and then my cool throw is getting horny of press conferences because we had two instances of this. Hell yeah. First one kind of bet like dude you gotta have better timing better place everything the Michigan defensive coordinator floored with one of the female reporters during a press conference saying the reporter was the best looking one in the bunch. Okay. This is from the school to brought you Sean more with uh saying he's gonna kill himself with a butter knife. You've got a rank

him. Yeah. That's they one if you're too far. You got a rank him. You got a rank him. You got a rank him on the final tweet. Yeah. And then uh our guy Brian Hodgson who just uh got the job of Providence the shock. Who is we we like him uh he said it he a classic line. He said if you ever want to question my recruiting ability just look at my wife Jordan. That's a good line. Great that's a good line. And also let's just say he can back it up. It's also him being like

I don't deserve this. Yeah. So he's like kind of he's put himself down a little bit. It's about

“dudes are allowed to be horny about their wives. Have you seen a picture of them? What's your name?”

Jordan and uh Brian Hodgson um there's only one Jordan H in uh college coaching for me and I think he's okay with us saying this but he's right. He's right. 100% correct. He's a hundred percent correct. It might be the most correct this has ever been. Okay I'm looking at this guy right here. There you guys. Look that's a very correct. Oh yeah hey hey nice work. Very correct. Not saying he's bad looking guy but yeah. He's a good recruiter. No Brian you're right yeah good recruiter. Respect Floor you're

going to say. I also agree with him like that that does help for like if you can prove that you can recruit well there you can recruit well in basketballs. Brian respectfully I'm not gonna have the part. What do you say? I don't know that it proves anything that Max is saying but I like I agree.

“Why not? Guys got a hot wife. That's what you want to go play for him. Yeah. No. Yeah the closer it's wife.”

But he convinced but he convinced his wife that he was like worth. It's about time. We're here to be like he convinced her. I mean like let's be honest there is an element of trickery and fall. Yeah. He did he definitely been like this is the right one. He definitely pulled the pull. He pulled a quarter out behind his ears. He did a little got your nose and then boom got married. He fooled her. What he did was he was like yeah he's like hey hey I know you're not blown away

right now but just hang on here's my bank account. Yeah we're gonna be good. Yeah I can really coach ball. Don't worry. I got this. Trust me I get better. It's you're gonna love me. So off the trail. Give me give me just a month of your time and you will love me.

No he's he's a good coach and awesome story like he's the the rise he's had. He was it.

He was NATO's assistant four or five years ago that Arkansas State then South Florida now Providence Providence deserves a good coach came English. Uh are you nervous about him Max? He's a good coach. The shock. Every coach in the Big East is a good coach. Well not came English. I like what I want the Big East to be great Dougward Doug. I want I know. God but they they had coach in waiting for all the coach in waiting. Not good. Not all the time. Yeah true not all the time.

The coach in waiting is the hard thing to pull off. Yeah we just saw a Hubert. That's what I was

“it. That's what I was just referring to. All right Zach how's he cool to run?”

Oh my how's he this week is gonna be uh it'll be ball parks. Uh have you guys seen the

trout the most Mickey Mouse 999 challenge bundles being debut across America. It's it's become too

corporate. It started last year a little bit where they're like we'll do the 999 but it's like fun sized. Those hot. They're trying to nerf. They're nerfing guys like Doich. Yeah it's as sure to guys who came before this commercialized challenge that did put in the work. It's still in Valorance. What is? Do you know the Doich did the 999 challenge last summer in three innings. So it's 993. That's pretty it's insane. I'm gonna go one step before. He did before case race correct. I'm going to tell you another story. Do

you know that there's somebody in this room who did a 999 challenge but instead of baseball Marvel rivals games. What is that? What is that challenge? Me and my friends were just playing the game one day and we're just like what if you think we could play this game and also drink nine beers and nine hot dogs one for each game. That sounds like fun. It was a great time we did it in the Xbox party. How many how many hours does it take? Each game's like 10 minutes so it's probably like

hour to a we didn't that's pretty good underestimated how how much shorter a game of Marvel rivals is to an ending of baseball. Yeah. Exactly. How much longer is it going to be until you're comfortable enough around us to get drunk? Uh we uh I'm I just don't drink very often. Uh you say that every weekend. We have to be with the beers of the Airbnb last time. I see you in that is true. In like Instagram stories just whipping it up, whipping it up at the club.

I dig a lot side recently but that's not like historically a regular thing. I don't have a beer. Do you guys any time? We actually did last uh where were were you guys there? I don't you guys might not have been the PFT and Hank you might not have been there when we went to the club's rooftop? You with us? I was not there that night. You weren't there. Yeah. I did beer. You got fucked up. He was drinking beers. He's dropped. Uh I didn't

impute by it. No but beer at the rooftop. dudes were like chug with me Zack and he did it multiple time. That's the thing people are so kind and they come up doing like let's have a beer together

“and it's like you have to be in on everyone of those beers. Yeah. You can't say no. No Jack.”

That's it. That's it. Yeah. You have to admit people come up to him and ask he has to say yes. We're going to happen. We're gonna happen in reason like now. Let's cut that part. Yeah. That's all right. All right my bad. Don't say that. That was a really bad thing for you. Cut, cut, cut. Keep that. No, no. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I didn't think about the repercussions of saying it. That's correct. But nobody's usually people should go up and ask

to do what I have a drink with you. Have it to us that he was at? I don't know how it. I don't know where what what are we doing with this. We're keeping it in. I hit the mic every time he goes outside. Hey, you go. He doesn't go out. The last time I did go out there, I didn't go out a lot. This will just be an excuse for him not to go out. He can learn how to say no.

I'll get there for sure. He'll never do that. I really don't know. There's a nice thing to do.

Keep this in. It's just part of this episode that I don't. We might have to submit to the podcast all them for just stupidity. Okay. Please. AWS don't do that. Don't do that. It'd better be a trinity. Our favorite. We'd love to see. You know, a cool thing. I got two quick ones and that's okay. You because you're going to get a ton of new friends. We might make a lot of a lot more

“friends. I think everybody here, if we just, if we strive to get like 10 more friends this summer,”

that'll be if it can buy in like 70 more friends. Hey, I don't know guys, apparently I was seeing anything the other day, people have way more friends that we first thought. You know what? I think they are so so. I like what I thought so, but I don't think it's Casey anymore. Everyone on this podcast try to make a new friend. I'll make one new friend. Yeah, man is you're going to make a new friend this year for his act. One new friend. I don't want as well.

Okay. Should we all present our new friend after we make them? We maybe have a maybe in July. We have a new friend show. Well, that would be pretty funny. This show is insane. I like it.

It's my buddy. Yeah. Hey, this is my power. I just told me a new friend. I got one new friend. Has to be brand new. Can't try to fake us out and be like, I found this new friend, but really we find out you went to college with them. brand new question. Does it they have to be a real friend? Like say you get a power out. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I wrote like

“you have to know him in the flesh. Yeah, fair. You do flesh to flesh sugar hands. Got you. Yeah.”

All right. Everyone's going to bring one new friend. One day, one of them. We're going to do that episode. Sometimes in July after the take he's after the take he's will do our one new friend episode. And we'll all introduce him. Like, hey, here's our guy. I'll make good. I want to try to find it. Really cool. I don't, you know, some sort of good. What if then what if all those guys become friends? That'd be sick. If that happens, then when we all make 10

friends. Yeah. Then we're now the big friend group. Yeah. We had no, we're going to make like everyone. Every friend we bring is going to be our new friend. So yeah, we're going to automatically just we just hack this. Because if I make a new friend chances are that pretty good that they would get along with all my friends. Right. That is true. Yeah. What a group chat. Okay. We have a new cool throne. Oh, cool throne. Two quick ones. Uh, first one is going to be

uh, the want to David. Uh, he has retirement. Uh, just want to say thank you the want to David 14 great seasons, buccaneer through and through, transcends the game. Hopefully, if I don't have any say, but future Hall of Famer, Super Bowl contributor. Yeah, that was the quick one, just because I got a shotgun. I mean, I hope you could just spend more time with the family, people that you love fruits of your labor. Make some speech. He gave, he got a motion. I mean,

14 years at that position is incredible. Really incredible. Great human being even better football

player. Okay. And then. Uh, yeah, I can do the other quick one if you want. Uh, I've got a Hanuman Tana fans. Oh, did you guys see 20 at the year anniversary of Hanuman Tana? No, no. No, fair. I saw a tag. I did. Yeah. Why didn't watch it, but I haven't seen all the things. Oh, yeah, I would like to watch it. Yeah. It looked pretty good. They got a musical performances. They got some

“sit down interviews. I believe, uh, I was Cooper hosting entire thing. My story was quoted saying, uh,”

Oscar was, uh, a little crazy for being such a huge fan because she said she got some money moved in right next door. And then, uh, it was like, hey, my, I didn't know you lived in this neighborhood. My story is like, well, you interviewed me at home like five years ago. You definitely knew I lived in this neighborhood. Yeah. She had done it was also about that interview. Oh, I need a list of every subject you've hit on this show. That is on this episode specifically. I feel like we've been

everywhere. Like if you're Molly Cyrus and a podcaster is paying that much attention to you. You have a little creep down down here. Yeah. But it's Molly Cyrus. Hey, what's trans scenes any kind

of, uh, everything I would doubt never. Uh, okay. Let's get to our interviews. We got John Fanna,

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how we feel in overall. Give us some recap of the first four days of the tournament. Just give us

a vibe check. How we feeling? Well, we're feeling good, big cat. And the the biggest theme is the big ten. We're out of the gates as you wear your your badgers cap. I was thinking of you on Sunday night,

for a big cat because they, they were certainly talented enough, but they ran into high point who

“almost ran into Arkansas. But for the big ten to have not won a championship in men's college”

basketball since 2000 and have six of the sweet 16 is certainly a headliner. Yeah, church bells, Godzilla bells ring the bells in San Diego, ring them all the way to Washington, DC, Dylan darling says, I am not going to let St. John's lose on a Sunday on a Sunday during length. We are finding a way to win this game. He drives the lane. He calls his own play, which the name of the play is power. And Rick Patino has empowered St. John's to be good again, off to the sweet 16. Oh, the East region is

though. Patino Hurley, Shire, are you, Shisheski? You know that Mike Shisheski will be sitting courtside somewhere in our nation's capital. If they can find a ticket tickets are going for four figures down in our nation's capital. This is going to be massive a capital one arena. Can't not wait for it. Illinois and Houston, you've got Illinois who they could go international and win up a bar fight at just about anywhere in Europe with Brad Underwood in his tracksuit Lee in

the way. And any guy Kelvin Samson, he could win a bar fight anywhere on the planet with his team because they're tough as hell. I cannot wait for that game. I am so excited to see that game. I thought Michigan restored themselves and they look the part of a team that's going to be very, very difficult to be. The NCA's Assist King in Braiden Smith is alive in this tournament. Are there people out there who are, you know, criticizing the the big dance for the lack of a Cinderella? Yes,

then certainly Texas is not one of those. That being said, the game still delivered several amazing

moments. There were a lot of almost before Iowa shocked us all. Nobody had that in their bingo card. That the tournament needed that. They needed that. Oh, oh, especially not you. I did not need that. Yeah. And I have a I have a apologize to Hawkeye fans and Liam Blotman. Yeah, I saw Liam Blotman's bingo card. He had that on there. Yeah, and you, if you call him an idiot, you call him a ball and not a ball. No, you said, child, please. Yeah.

Child, please. I did say that. And you know what though? I am a man of integrity. I'm like some of our colleagues. And I had known I was wrong and apologize for for being wrong. Very sorry, but the tournament still delivers really good moments. And I firmly believe that,

“you know, we're going to see like the Cinderella. I don't think she's dead forever. I think when she”

finally comes out of her casket, we'll appreciate it that much more. Yeah. But we're setting up for really fun action in the second weekend. And a couple of games that could just be ridiculous. Sunday in the tournament was the best the four days. Yeah. Multiple buzzer beaters. And in some moments that made you say, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. No, we are our take was that, you know, we saw it. There's obviously a lot of people are like, oh, we missed the 13 through 16s having a shot.

Outside of, you know, Friday night, maybe it felt, it was awesome. And yeah, missed that one pop of like a 14 seed, you know, winning a first round game. But on that, the tournament has been great.

And now we have 16 incredible teams, incredible coaches. And it feels like I know you can like say,

there's a couple of teams. It may be a real, real long shot, but there are some really good teams, really good matchups. It feels like anyone can get to this final four. Anyway, it could get to this final four. To me, like the best player in the tournament right now doesn't play for any of the remaining one seeds doesn't even play for any of the remaining two or three seeds. Yep. To me, the best player in this tournament right now is Darius A. Cup Junior. Yep. He is ridiculously gifted

“and just a total stud. And his ability to change a game, it's special guys. He is, I think we talked”

about it a few weeks back. He could go on a Kemba like run. He reminds me of that with with with the level he plays. So, you know, here you have John Caliperi as the underdog again in that checkered right in white jacket, strolling in later this week to take on Arizona. And I think he's got as much of a shot as anybody, even though his team can struggle defensively at times. They got athletes. And those athletes play really good ball. But, you know, look, you're right. We could have, we could have

Michigan's to fitting title team. Purdue is playing the best basketball they've played all season. Any of Duke UConn Michigan say it or St. Josh could come out of the East region. I wouldn't be

is that Nebraska and Iowa are both in the sweet 16 and both playing each other for the right to go to the elite age. It's incredible. I have all the things that you look at. What, what is

“the security situation going to be in that building in Houston between those two fan bases?”

Yeah, it's, it's not. It's crazy these teams hate each other for football. And they never

have been, Nebraska they've been there. Iowa's been a long time. And then look up and they say, oh man, we have to play each other. Like, this is, I love it though. It's going to be great because one of those teams is going to the elite. I liked it to play each other. I'm, I'm glad that it's going to be like that, that board, it's going to be that clash between two very similar fan bases and one of them is guaranteed to be the elite. Also, PFT could, could we, could we have it the first

media time out? The score would be three three. I'll be perfect. Yeah. Can they figure out how to punch? Yeah. What, what, what would the equivalent be of punching in that game? CBS could do something really funny and roll the, the college football theme music under the first media time out if it's like six three or three three. I honestly think you're missing a huge opportunity to have a

“half court ceremony at some point in this game with Kirk Ferenx on one side in the court.”

Mm-hm. And all of Nebraska head football coaches during Kirk Ferenx's tenure on the other side. Mm-hm. Yeah. I mean, to, to truly honor that, that football vibe, there, there should be multiple shot clock violations, a lot of jump balls in the game. Just like playing, so you don't want to commit any turnovers necessarily, but if you can commit a turnover after taking 29 seconds off the clock, not that bad. I want, yeah. It, it should be a great game and they are exciting

teams to watch too, like they Nebraska especially. I feel like they play a brand of basketball that is, it's different from Iowa and Nebraska football. We think of for those schools.

And fellas, the, the, the huskers, you're right. Their style is amazing to watch.

It's comes from different sources too, like, you know, it could be priced Sanford on a possession, but you can chill. The coach is son, you know, the coaches twins are on the team and on

“their 23rd birthday. They, they come up big and Sam comes up huge with two amazing sequences,”

but more than anything. You know, the biggest winners are the first weekend Nebraska fans. That, that fan base showed out. I haven't seen a first weekend site look like that on TV and sound like that in TV in quite some time. They understood the assignment. And for Iowa, Iowa is a refreshing story. You can't, you, how could you dislike this? A bunch of D2 guys that went to Drake, they wanted Drake, they want a tournament game of Drake, then they go to the Big 10,

and now they're, they're, they've won two games, and they just took out the Raining National Champions, which it's wild to think that since 2007, the defending champion has been unable to make it the second weekend, except for Eucon in 2024. That is an crazy note. If you're trying to repeat, it's so damn hard to repeat. Only Dan Hurley has been able to do it. And Dan Hurley is still alive, fellas, and he's facing top as well. Yeah. By the way, the Iowa part is, it really

is crazy considering how they were going down the stretch. In the last month of the season, they did not look good. They were kind of leaking oil as it went down, but they just kept on. I mean, they were still kind of rated high in Ken Palm and net rankings. That team was

Ben McCallum's a really good coach, and getting to the sweet 16 after Fram McAfrey, never been able

to do that in 15 years being there. It's pretty nuts. It's, it's crazy how the sport works. It is, and it shows you that you can't just pull out your wallet and pay for a sweet 16. Yeah. Iowa, Iowa did, they don't have the most money in the big 10. I don't even think they have top five or six money in the big 10. I really don't. So that you got to give them a ton of credit. On a night where Ben, it starts to even shoot the ball well. He didn't even have a break game,

but Tavion Banks, who started his career at a Juco College. And, and Alvaro Fogaris, who was that Robert Morris last year? And look, this just shows you can coach people from the portal. Now, it's nine month contracts. That's the tough part for the mid-majors and whatnot. But Fogaris, we love a great story. The young man loses his dad when he was nine years of age, and he points to the sky when he hits the shot of his life. That's the stuff of March. It's the

stuff that we love and that that that empathizes with America. And the Iowa Hawkeyes are moving on, and there is a big 10 conference game in the second weekend. But yeah, you're right, they can't like Ben McCollum has won everywhere he's gone. If you can't get behind this story, this is a guy. He wasn't handed everything in his life. He's only 44. He's won four national championships in division two. He was at Northwest Missouri State for 15 years before he gets a look in D1. Think

guys would have gone to D1 after five years. He spent 15 in division two and he's only 44. Could Ben McCollum be the next coaching star. If he takes Iowa to the second weekend in year one, why not? And by the way, I don't know how you guys feel. I like that he suits up in the in the love it. I love it. I love that. I love that. Yeah, that's a great look. So speaking of that, John,

we have, you know, you and C might become available. Never talked about another man's job,

but it seems like they've kind of soured on the relationship there a little bit. Kansas bill self still make it up his mind. But he didn't he didn't seem very committed like it. If I were to just guess based on how he sounded after that loss. And yeah, granted, he was getting over a tough loss to say John's. But he didn't sound like a man that was excited to get back to work. We could have some big jobs coming available. Would Ben McCollum be a guy that you have to make

“him say no. Well, you have to make him say no. I think that his mindset will be I was the”

high major gave me a chance and we just went to a sweet 16. Let's up, let's up the pot of resources that we have. Remember Ben is an Iowa city native. So he is home. So that's something to consider here. But there's no question that that he's going to be contacted. I mean, look, if Kansas contacts you about their vacancy, you have to take the call. You have to talk with them. It's one of the best jobs in the sport. And it's the best home court advantage in all the sport.

But, you know, to me, he's a name to certainly monitor a name that I would munder as Mark Buyington, who's done a great job now at Vanderbilt. He did a wonderful job at James Madison. And I think that if I was Carolina or Kansas, he would be one of my first calls. I also think Dan Hurley will get a call. I don't think Dan Hurley is going anywhere. I think he loves being a Connecticut. But, yeah, if you're North Carolina or Kansas, you want to make a splash, you're

going to call the guy that's perceived as the best coach in the sport right now today. So the cycle is going to be fascinating. I mean, to me, when Carolina loses a 19 point lead to VCU, and loses that game. Like I instantly just think of Bubba Cunningham and Carolina, talk about a total nightmare of a last 12 months. Like you want a bunch of press conferences in one

“night. You certainly won one with with Bill Belichick. But that was about the only thing that you”

happened to win. And now, you know, you're staring at having to make another change. And that changes the size of one because Carolina basketballs obviously still can't. Right. Right. Yeah, the uh, that wouldn't be interesting. Have you um, have you heard Brad Stevens name throw it out there? You got to call him and make him say no, right? Yeah, you have to call him and make him say no.

Okay, good. I hope it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I always laugh when these lists first get published because

it's like Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan. Yeah, Billy, Billy, Billy. Yeah, he's got to make him say no, Johnny. And like you said, if it's Kansas, if you're Brad Stevens, you have to take the call. Yeah, you got to take a call and then you're going to make it say no. It sounds like you just set yourself up. Kansas and Brad Stevens, according to you, are at least discussing the the potential of a head coaching vacancy. Correct. Yeah. You know, as much as you and I will discuss

say no, most cocktail in Indianapolis. Yeah. And we need maybe we'll end up meeting there and getting some. Yeah. We need, as Stevens will say, I'll take a charter plane down and entertain the discussion to play the NBA playoffs don't start for a couple weeks. This is what happens every single cycle. And it, it's what will happen again. So yes, you've set me up here and, and yes, Brad Stevens and North Carolina by having one, one discussion with the agent, you know, we'll back, will they back

“up the truck? Yeah, they, of course, they were back in the truck. Will it have been problem?”

You know, keep keep one eye on Todd Gold. You never know if, if I think he's happy at Florida,

but, but he's certainly going to have some appeal in this cycle as well. Yeah. I mean, Brad Stevens does have Indiana ties too. So he knows where St. Almost is. I think there's going to be a meeting. I think there might be a meeting. Oh, at the final four. Yeah, at the final four. Just keep, keep your other eye on that one eye on Todd Gold and the other eye on the basement at Stain Omo's. And then it is about time for that annual discussion of TJ Otselberger too.

Like where's he going to go? Yeah. And I've fallen for that one. That's not happening. He's very happy at Iowa State. Cyclone fans will give very angry about this that we're even entertained the thought. They give very mad all the time at, when, whenever things get, but TJ is, is happy to be at, and I will stay and I think he will continue forging on now for year six in aim. He's not going

up when things, when things open up. I like, I kind of want just, just for a day just to get big cats reaction. I just want there to be like, uh, oh, you know what I did like over the weekend. Somebody put it out there. I think no escalators. You confandicount said, you know, if, if you're Kentucky and you ever moved on from Mark Pope, you'd have to be looking at a guy who's established in the SEC and it's one and another school like John Calipari. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

cows won the, he's completely won the breakup. That's not even, it's not even close. Through two years, it's, it's, it's going bad for Kentucky. Can I ask you guys a question? Do you have

“the, um, the, sometimes you have to go back to the board. Yeah. I can get it made. Like, do you have like 25”

of those like sitting in a pantry? I just have, uh, I have, I want to our guys make them. Um, so yeah, I can make one for you. No problem. Like, if you're, if you're thinking Jeff Fisher to Kentucky, then we can get that one out within 15 seconds. Yeah, but if you want cows, it's going to take a couple hours. But I got you. I'll, I'll have it out by the end of the day. Oh, I mean, that's, there's just so much there. It's, if you're in big blue nation right now, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

you're pissed. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You have to be. And when people, someone said like over the weekend, oh, you know, um, uh, well, he's, he's, he's heading in the right direction, right direction.

They spent $22 million on their roster and they're not one of the last 16 teams in the tournament.

They almost lost the Santa Clara. I'm, I'm sorry, but when you spend that kind of money, that's not right direction. Also side note from the first weekend side note, and I'm going to get you to fire it up right now. Can people learn to take a joke? Yeah. Oh, weird. Wait, hold on, time out, time out. We should go. Uh, time out disclaimer for everyone listening right now. Kevin Willard did a 10 John Finters wedding. Go ahead. People need to learn to take a freaking

“joke. He said, thank you, Max. There's Max. How many days away from your big party?”

Oh, yeah. Yeah. He brought it. So yeah, Johnny, we invited Kevin Willard on Max's bachelor party. Can you get that talk? Can you make the call, please? Please. I will make the call. Okay, thank you. No, all he needs is a flight. We got him for everything. I will make the call. Uh, yeah, we'll, we'll try to make that happen. I think you'd have a a wonderful time in Las Vegas. Listen, he was, he, he is a Latino guy. He and mid-cronen are both

Latino guys who work for Latino. So whether their jokes always land or not is a different story,

what, of course, he's not firing his staff. Come on, people. Like, I saw, I saw national analysts be like, I don't like this. Look, I don't like get a grip. He was kidding that they weren't guarding in bounds. Plays, they weren't guarding you. By the way, Utah State,

“they gave Arizona a good game. But shout outs of the Aggies. Yeah. Well, Jerry, Jared Calhoun,”

he could be going to Cincinnati. You know, I wouldn't be surprised one bit. Take a joke. Willard was kidding. He, he's not going to fire people. They are families. He's in year one of Villanova. He's never been like that to do that. Learn some humor America. Learn some humor. I don't know. We're seeing pretty serious to me. We tried to fire our staff all the time, Johnny. Yeah. John. Meam has been on a pit for the last four years. That's true. John, I don't know.

Let's begin that. John, why don't coaches, how come no teams can end down the ball anymore? A lot of, a lot of them do not. I don't know why. But doing a bunch of games throughout the season, it's amazing to me how often this is an issue. Yeah. And on many times, the end bounds pass goes to the back court. It go, you know, it's a football heave just to get to the point guard and sometimes that pass gets contested. I'm not sure. I mean, like, obviously, I'm not a coach. But what happened to the

CYO staff play? Good boy. Yeah. I was always either the screener. So the staff play,

we're guys in a steel file. One guy judge right and goes to the opposite block. The other guy judge's left and goes to the baseline. Sometimes I was that man and nobody was guarding me and back in the day could lace that 15 footer home. The third guy you want to have some girth on you, you are turning around and you are setting a screen for the fourth guy to bull those his way down the lane and go up to the rim. Yeah. I mean, I know it's a tail as old as time,

but watching some of these imbalance plays. Don't tell me that the bread and butter situation won't work. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. Like, we know they're scouting. We know there's video,

thrown in bounce pass before. Like they were terrified of the moment. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what

“it's been. But by the way, that's how Kansas lost the same John's. Yeah. Like, they couldn't”

end down the ball against full core pressure. Yeah. It's March. Yeah. You have to see who is same way. Tennessee survived, but same way. Kentucky had a million turnovers. It did feel like there was moments where it was, you know, maybe it was just a coaching disadvantage. But teams were just didn't feel prepared for that moment. And we're talking about Hall of Fame coaches. We're talking about Rick Barnes and Bill Sal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, speaking of Willer, can we press Kevin Willer could break it

out and he could dance at a wedding, too. Yeah. He definitely could and he wants to fire all his staff and it's pretty offensive. It's a position of power John that you shouldn't, you shouldn't

make jokes like that. I never would do that. Did you ever feel like he was going to fire all

of his groomsmen? Like, like, everybody better be, if you're in the crowd, be ready for the call up. You know, it's just, and like a certain colleague of ours, of course, had to tweet as the game went final. Sure, he's got plenty of weddings to attend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good one. Yeah. That's a nice spring. Hey, question about your, your biggest St. John's new con still alive in the same region, which kind of sucks. If you ask me, I mean, a third would be cool or fourth would be cool.

“But I still, I think the tournament, I don't love rematches. How do you, how do you see this going”

for St. John's new con? Have you, have you, have you talked to either guy, Petino or Hurley, hot like there? I think Hurley doesn't have his best new con team, but he's just such a good coach.

And St. John's, not that it's all gravy, but Petino's done everything he said he was going to do

when he got to St. John's. Yeah. Hurley is Michael Myers right now in that he's just wired differently and you can't put him down. And even though his team did not play well against Furman, they played quite well against UCLA. So he's got, he's the Michael Myers this tournament. And then it's, it's very simple, but like Rick Petino is the Alpatino of this tournament. He is the, he is driving the hurts from the west coast to the east coast. And his next potential victim is Duke and John

Shire. And look, how do I see this? Teams that consistently shoot the three and shoot it well are the ones that give St. John's issues because you can only defend that so well. And St. John's, they're not a three point shooting team. Now, Kansas said we're just going to keep daring you to shoot and they made enough of them to win the game, but they only failly scored 67 points. They, they can give Duke problems because size and physicality give Duke issues. And they're

going to be able to slow down Cameron Booser. I really do feel that way. And so then he comes down to, well, I, well, Isaiah Evans, well, Captain Booser, you know, Foster, we don't know about his status. Can Domay Sark give them some more perimeter shooting. Domay Sark's a real X factor for Duke. And he, any, any was in the win over TCU. But how do I see it? I see it being a close game because Big Cat and PFT, St. John's on prep with a Hall of Fame coach, they're going to be ready to go.

A one day turnaround for Duke, I'd feel a little bit differently. Having four or five days they're going to know everything about Duke. They're going to be ready defensively. If they make enough shots and they get enough shot making from Joe Sonsan and Ian Jackson, Oziad sellers, they're going to have a chance. You con Michigan State is a boxing match. It could, it could be the best game of the, of the sweet 16. You have two coaches who just simply refuse to lose and typically,

they just don't lose in this tournament. Michigan State is playing as well as anybody right now. Jeremy Fears is a beast. They're getting enough shot making from Cohen cars now taken off. How about Cohen car? Yeah. He's more than, bunker. He's a score. Colour and Cooper inside to me,

“"Centeris Reed" can the Big Bear, can the Big Bear with his honey bucket for UConn hold up?”

Because he's got to go up against Colour and Cooper, and UConn doesn't have anybody behind Reed that can really will themselves physically. Like Eric Ryebis talented, but he's not Teris Reed, and he's not Jackson, Colour, Carson Cooper. So Reed has to avoid foul trouble. And then, well, Alex Cariband and Braille and Mullins keep making trees. If they do, it's going to be very difficult for UConn to lose. Yeah. And these are toss-up games. The two of them, DC is going to

be an event on Friday night. That's not a double higher. That is an event. Yeah. Yeah. A great. What about Arizona Arkansas? I can't figure out this game. Both teams have looked really good. Arizona's, they struggled a little bit with Utah State. Things got a little dicey then they pulled away. Actually, made some big threes, which we don't really expect from Arizona. And then Arkansas has just played the most entertaining basketball ever. And I love watching

in this tournament. But I can't figure out how this match up plays out. What should I be

“anticipating in that sweet 16 game? Well, what you should be anticipating is, for Arizona,”

their ability to get to the rim and make it a game in the, in the mud. They got to make this dirty. They got to make it physical. They got to make it a bit of a football game and say, Arkansas, you're going to play the game on our terms. And we're going to punch in the face. Like that's how Arizona has to approach this game. They cannot get into a glamour contest. They can't. Because Arkansas, they've got the king. I'm going to call them right now. I'm going to call

the king hog. I love it. King, dare you say, Cove Junior is King hog. King hog. King hog. Woopig, A-Coff. That's, that's how well he is playing right now. And if you try to get into a, let's let's just get into a three point shot making contest, Arizona still bought him 15 in the country. Right. How much they rely on the three. Now, Arkansas, they're not going to hit 13 of them. But they went 9 to 16 against high point. And A-Coff had the 36 to me for Arizona.

Jayden Bradley, his ability to defend is very important in this game. And then co-opete and braiden buries have made winning plays all year. They've made winning plays all season long. Who's better? A-Coff from Relie Thomas and Relie Thomas or is it Pete and Buries who are driving the bus? And then for Arkansas, they need Malik, you end to keep playing well. Because you got, on the other side, Arizona's got the size. They're going to rebound the basketball. They're going

to protect the rim. And that starts with Krivas. You can't let Mo Krivas have 20 and 11. If you let him do that, Arizona's going to win. In my original bracket. And you guys know, I'm a man of integrity. I apologize to Iowa fans. Yep. Uh-huh. My original bracket has Arkansas pulling off the upset. Their athletes, their speed King hog wears the crown and takes Arkansas on the elite. And he doesn't stop there. He takes them to the final four. I love it. All right. Well, a confident in the

chin in the final four would be incredible. Yeah. Gunter had Johnny, uh, which coach, which remaining coach do you trust the most? Hmm. Hmm. We're a real good question. Yeah. We're a good question.

“That's why I asked it. Gunter's your head. Oh, I think he's a shotgun. Meem says a shotgun. Meem says a”

shotgun. Yeah. It's it's time as though because I never hit here's here's why I trust him.

It was going to be is over Calvin Samson. And by the way, I think I think Houston's going to get some final four. And I think they if I had to pick right now, it seemed to win the national championship. It's Houston redemption tour. Uh, I just, you know, I think it could be used to Michigan in the final. And there's something about the theater. Uh, for the Houston Cougars coming so close last year. But my answer was, is it? And my answer is this. Oh, because the guy doesn't get blown out.

He doesn't let Miss shots impact how his team plays. I want to coach who gets his team in the game in the last three minutes. No matter the opponent. Uh-huh. And I don't see you come blowing out Michigan State. I think it'll be down to the wire. And I think Michigan State can beat anybody in this tournament because they have point guard play. They have two big men. And now Jordan Scott and

Cohen Carr and even Cam Ward are supplying enough depth with Michigan State. The question always

is, do they have enough sources of scoring? This team now does. And ISO's got a great way about him. And I know that he, you know, I get when people are like, well, you know, he's got the title in 2000. But what else? Guys, this guy turns out second weekends with teams sometimes that are not qualified to do it every single year. And this team's qualified to make attending atlas. So I can't go get it, you know, ISO, Hurley, Patino, all being in the same region's tough. But ISO's track record,

as much as Rick did it and had glory years. Remember this about Patino. He has been to a sweet 16 in 11 years. Now, he was out of the sport. He was in Greece. He's an amazing coach. But I also give that answer knowing Michigan State's point guard play. Something that St. John's does not have. Even you kind of spin up and down. ISO's got a point guard. He's got two big and he's got enough shot making. He beat Zion Williamson with this type of team. Yeah,

“yeah, come out of this with this type of team. That's why I say ISO. Okay. So right now on”

trafficking sportsbook, which you are sponsor with Johnny, plus four 75 to get Michigan State into the final four. So if you want to, if you want to bet on, if you want to bet on ISO, I like that.

That's an East. I mean, Friday night is going to be just incredible. It's the batch of

I'm watching the secondary ticker market. And I don't think I've ever seen anything like it

“for a sweet 16. Well, what a double header. It really, it really will be, it'll be phenomenal. I think”

Thursday night. I know it's a 10 o'clock at night, but Illinois Houston, like folks, get into the office late Friday morning. I don't know what, or don't work Friday at all. Yeah. Illinois Houston, down in Houston, will be a tremendous game. Illinois's offensive talent is

amazing. Wargler, Boswell, Stoyacovitch. You know, we don't talk about the, here's page

just, Stoyacovitch. It just could have in 20 plus in a tournament game. The Alinai are fun. Wisconsin beat them in champagne, but the Alinai are fun. Okay, beat them in the big 10 tournament, too. What about, uh, what about Michigan, Alabama? That's a, a lot of people here at Boswell sports are going to have our eyes on that game. Uh-huh. Too tight. It's pretty much right to our two co CEOs of the company. Yeah, Dave and Rico going to the big two, the big two,

I mean, for all the marbles, you talk about a lot on the line for Rico Bosco. Um, Alabama, I don't know if this style can can win a tournament. Um, it's fun to watch when it

“works. And Michigan hasn't really been tested. So who, if you have to bet, would you be put your”

lot with Dave or with Rico? Dave, get in the car. Take a drive. Take a drive and nice, a nice ride. To the airport, because we're going to fly. Okay. And the other one's going to bus and take a nice uh, charter bus with some rolled gold pretzels, and that dissonny water that's two days old, and we're sitting in the back of a shell station. Uh, I, I'm going to go with, uh, Dr. Dave

Portnoy on this one because Michigan's length. Here's the thing. Alabama could have a

shot in this game, because they're top 10 in points. They get off three. That's a plus a baron fine lines amazing. There's no question about it. That being said, Alabama doesn't turn people over. It didn't turn people over. Uh, and Michigan's struggle has been in, in, in the turnover column. And Michigan should be able to get to the rim that will against Alabama. Alabama's interior defense is not there. That spells trouble for the crimson side. It spells trouble for Mr.

Bosco stick, one of my favorite cafeteria snacks growing up, and it smells trouble for that. Alabama sweatsuit. I think that thing gets put away later this week, and I think Dave Portnoy

and the Wolverine's move on. Okay. I liked that. All right. Last question, Johnny. It's always

great to have you on uh, rowback question. RHOBACK dot com promo code take 20% up at first purchase coupsips, follows hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback dot com promo code take. Can you just get us pumped up? Just give us the old fan to just give us a one fan to pump up, you know, about about this

“weekend coming up. Are you feeling sweet America? Because you should be it's here. You need to”

win. If you're squat walking into a building this week, two wins to get to Indianapolis where a champion will be crowned. If you're a big 10th, then you're rejoicing because you've got to conference matchup in this week, 16, who had Nebraska and I won the sweet 16, nor alone squaring off, but there are four other big 10 squats in the sweet 16 in the east in our nation's capital where America will be celebrating its 250th birthday this summer. College basketball will be

celebrated at capital one arena, Duke and St. John's. Petino versus Shire. Coach K will certainly be watching the star power real Cameron Booser on one side. Zubi, dubi, do be do on the other for St. John. You caught in Michigan State. Well, hurlinger is asleep with their eyes open the night before you can count on that. Cohen Carr, Jeremy Fears on one side, Alex Cariband, the winning is Husky, the King Husky on the other. Out of the right side, the bracket here comes that

checker jacket of John Caliperi and Arkansas looking to pull it off over Zona. Shaw Miller wears a cowboy hat now and Texas. They might be sweating, but they're sweating their way to the second weekend. Raiden Smith is the all-time assist leader. Could Purdue break through again and have a home final four a storyline we haven't discussed as much, but we should be discussing more. Michigan, they've been amazing. Alabama, so well coached under Mr. Oats, who will have a better breakfast,

who will bring the muscle, the toughness to that one and then toughness muscle. They are not an option. They are mandatory when Tennessee and Iowa State meet up. This is the sweet 16. This is March.

you will look to the calendar and say Easter weekend is actually next weekend. It's final four weekend and which four teams will emerge into the sunlight and be ready to perform on college basketball and for that weekend sports center stage. The other best Johnny. Thank you. We love you Johnny. You're the best and hopefully we see you soon and let's, let's watch some more games. Nothing better. I love you guys. Will I see you in Indianapolis? You will be on site. I did not

“I'll be there for at least a day. I think we have one live show so we'll get you on that for sure.”

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It feels like it's been a tradition now, which you have made it for many, many years. It is Coach Tom Iso from Michigan State. It's a tradition that you get to the sweet 16.

“You've done it again. 17th, sweet 16. We wanted to have you on. I think this is maybe the”

third or fourth year in a row that we've had you on. First of all, congratulations to getting back

to the sweet 16. I know it's hard to win one tournament game let alone too. And now you're here. How are the vibes? A day after where you're feeling, hey, we did this again. We've gotten at least one step closer. Well, I wish it was a tradition. That means it would automatically happen and it doesn't automatically happen as you guys know. But it is pretty thrilling that we have been the 17 of them. I feel blessed lucky. A lot of good players, a lot of good staff members, a lot of

people that help you get here and you got to have some luck too. Sometimes it's an injury against you sometimes. It's one of your guys. There's a lot of things that go on in these seasons as you can see around the country right now. And I'm just happy we get to still work because the board still work and today that means we're still playing. Yeah, that's fair. And after the game, you said something that caught my eye when you were talking about being a steward of the game.

And I feel like we've got from the old school generation, we've got some of you guys that are still

“sticking around looking after the game for everybody else. We appreciate that. But what did you mean?”

When you said that, it's important to you to be a steward of the game. Well, I mean, that the game really doesn't change and that we have a responsibility of the game more than we do to ourselves or schools or even our players. I mean, the game is what's been so valuable all this time. And I just want you to know that when you say old school, it really does hit a source spot with me. So I can say that to you guys on this station because I know you,

I want to do it the right way. And the right way has been done for not 20 years, not 40 years,

“100 years. You know, you whole people accountable. You have, you know, you're playing for the”

name on the front, not the back. You know, if we're going to be pro ball and go pro ball, but right now we're college. So let's say college and figure out that, you know, there's nothing wrong with holding people accountable. There's nothing wrong with people playing for the players that played here before. There's nothing wrong with playing for your city and your community and your school. That's old school. You guys are a dialogue clue. That's real school. It's right school. It's the way

it's supposed to be. It's an awesome message because I think it's interesting to look around the league and see, you know, a lot of the guys that you coached against for many, many years kind of exited stage left when NIL and transfer portal ramped up. You, you stayed the course and you've you've kept on doing it like you're showing, hey, I can do it, you know, from 20 years ago when you had to guys stay for four years. I can do it now when guys, you know, might be gone or transfer

after a year. It's really a testament to your coaching ability and like your ability to keep everyone together, which I feel like in the locker room afterwards, you got a little emotional.

“And that was the message that everyone here has had a part of it. And that's why that's what”

Michigan State basketball meets. Well, it does. I'm not going to kid you that. And you know, I don't know how long you build a sustained something like this because sooner or later, you know, what players leave and in common all the time. If you don't have a core group and I have a core group, what that'll be like in a year or two who knows. But it is difficult. It's more difficult. It is a reason a lot of these football coaches and basketball coaches have left because they don't

really believe that this is right. Are you ready for this for the players? Not for the coach, not for the school, not for, you know, this and that is, is it right? You know, is it going to help them in the next 70 years? Because that's really our job. I mean, we, we all know that 1% of our guys, 1.2% are going troll, 1.3% of the football players are going troll. So that is a my new number and yet all the rules seem to be made for that. Those guys are going to make money and

do things anyway. So that's my concern is what does money do? What does transferring? What does going place is for the wrong reasons? What does that all do for you? But that should be an offseason

topic for you guys. Because right now it should be about the incredible games going on. Yes,

the opportunity for us to play in another sweet 16 against either two teams we played. You run or UCLA and both of them make me nauseous. So maybe you're right. If I hate the transfer portal, that might be better than talking about those two teams. Yes. All right. So we have some advanced scouting for you. Are you caught in UCLA? So you kind of used it. We're taping this before they play. Yukon were good friends with Coach Dan Hurley, what you have to do to stop him is do not let him drink

his rage piss before the game. So he has a bottle of urine and he drinks it on the sideline before the game tips off. Don't let him have it. That's his secret sauce. Okay. I want to know this because I know both guys I'm close to Danny Hurley and I really am. He's had some pro offers. I did and we talked a lot. I think he does a hell of a job. And McCronen is doing a great job out there too. But I want to know who in the hell is going to fish it that game tonight. That guy is my hero.

“Yeah, some poor bastard. I think what you have to do is if it is against Coach Hurley,”

you got to come out with your own bottle. Just take some water, a little bit of yellow food coloring in there and you have to show him like, hey, what you got, I got one better and just let him know. I'm not here to mess around. We're both triggered piss. Yeah, you know, the advantage of being a veteran guy is all the years I've been here and all the 28 times we've gone to the

tournament. I've still never shot a shot. Guard it anybody made an assist, made a free throw. So I think

Danny and I could drink eat and do whatever we want to do. It's probably not going to have any valuable position on the outcome of the game. I probably disagree with that. You know, back to back title. And I know that you sometimes when your players get amped up during a game, you almost get calmer and you bring them over and you say, hey, I want you calm down. We can't afford to have you get a technical. Let me be the one that costs us the game by getting a technical.

Yeah, it's like when you, when other people are around you, you know, I've seen you on the side.

players get excited and emotional, you almost get more calm in that moment. Is that true? It is true because I know that I know where I can push the envelope and where I can't. I don't think a player does and I don't think referees want to listen to that as much. So you guys probably evaluated that pretty well. Now you gave away my secrets. Yeah, although that

“shot-cock violation at the end of the first half against Louisville. You should have, you should have”

gotten everyone off the court and been like, hey, you guys don't deserve to play ball. I saw you getting mad. I was equally as mad. You can't have that happen. Yeah, there's a lot of things that can't happen, but you know, as much as I joke about the coaching part, I'm not sure I'd want to be an

official in my second life coming back. Yeah, probably not. You probably will be, though, if there's

like Karma's real, you would have to be an official coming back. Now, I'm going to be a football coach. I already decided that because, you know, you can grab guys, you can do things, you can yell, nobody's looking right at you, you can hide between the hundred players, you got down there, you're not right next to the court. Those guys got it made. Those helmet head guys alone. Yeah, but I will say this. The public discourse on you yelling at your players. I think has gone all the way

back where people all have respect where you're coming from. We had, we had your, your guy, Dream on Green on the show. We sat with him for like an hour and a half. It was awesome. And we talked about this where it was like, look, all these, he pointed out, he's like, all these guys who played for coaches, though, will stand up for coaches, though, when one of these clips goes viral. Do you think that's the case? If we didn't think he actually loved us and wanted the best for us? Like,

“so that, that is what people miss and that's what they, you know, sometimes I don't want to say the”

world's gone soft, but you're doing hard coaching, but it comes, he said it comes from a place that he loves you and you have that foundation, then you can talk to anyone, however you want, because you know, it's just honest truth back and forth. Well, it's, it's a responsibility and it's

accountability. I mean, you know, we're not always yelling at people. I mean, I'm Italian, so, you know,

you know what it is. The honest truth is our job is to hope people accountable to accomplish the goals and dreams that they have, not what I just have, what they have. And so, if you were looking at your own son or daughter, if you had one or your cousin or whoever, he was walking across the street and you told him not to do it, this is going to hit by a car. If he did it 10 different times in the car, just miss them, would you say, Johnny, please don't walk across the street,

or would you get after him a little bit, because you know that he's doing something that's going to create a problem and it's not going to end well. And that's what experience does, you know,

“I think, that's what's helped me. And you know what, it just spend a lot of time with your players.”

I love Drey Monty's a best and then they know that, you know, I have meetings with players to let them know. You tell me what you want me to do. You want me to hold your accountable. You want me to let you go. You want me to let you go, then I'd probably put you in the transfer portal, not me, right? You know, that's just the way it is. I mean, guys got a, why would you say, you know, you're almost to apologize for the world's getting soft. The world is getting soft. Yeah. Yeah, you know,

right? So, I mean, but the wind champion chips and it be successful, there's no softness to that. You know, I, I had that bandage, you know, I started here with Nick Saben, you know, with Nick Sly, Bill Belichick used to come here to spend time talking in his camps. I watched the John Thompson's, I talked to Magic Johnson about what Pat Riley was like. You know, I mean, sure, some guys can coach different if they got, you know, 10 McDonald's, all Americans are eight all pro guys,

but he looked at Bill Parsley. He looked at the good coaches. They do it in a different way, but accountability, I think, guys is the key that we're all striving for. Yeah, who's one guy and it seemed this year that has improved a lot. That has taken this, this style of coaching, the tough love of times, and embraced it and improved over his time at the school. I actually think I got a lot of guys that think both of our bigs,

coloring and Cooper have improved, but I, I think Jeremy's improved because he's the guy that, you know, you have to go at the most because he's your quarterback, you know, I was telling that him and I got a lot in common, you know, if, if it's on the court, he gets blame for it. If it's, we lose, I get blame for it. So we're both getting blame for things. So we might as well get a long and do it the right way. And I really enjoyed the way our relationship has grown and what is happening.

It was the same way when I started with my team cleaves and it's never changed those guys,

when I, when I don't think people realize and magic said this to me once, great players want to be

I just sometimes in the high school level now or, you know, nobody does that because kids will leave,

you know, you don't get a ribbon you leave. So it's different. Is that, is it fair for him to say that, that Michigan says point card university? Well, we've had a lot of good ones, you know, I mean, I'm sure some other schools have too, but, you know, you know, the magic man, of course, you know, I was in here then, but, you know, he's one of the greatest of all times. And for me, my team cleaves was the greatest of all times because he embodied everything I believe in,

you know, he ran our team. He found out to make guys better. He, you're talking about a guy who push

“guys, you should be happy. He's not coaching. He pushed his best friends. And that's why we want”

a championship. By the way, I went to three final fours. Yeah. So talking about coaching guys hard,

a very funny story this year happened when you yelled it at one of your players curtain during a timeout saying, you know, my mother can guard better than you. You then had your mom in her retirement home, had the picture. They did a photo shop of her playing defense, loved it. My question, though, because I'm sure you talked about a lot, would you have said that same thing to Cohen Carr, because then you would have maybe had a situation where Cohen Carr's

dunking on your own mother? I had my mother dunking on the broad. So that's even better. If Cohen couldn't guard, I'd say it, but I'd say the people, you know, the difference is guys, my mother turns 100 in me. So she's 99. So that's a little better impact right now. Yeah, you can't guard, you know, my mother at 99 can guard better than you, but probably when she was 75, I was telling kids the same thing, you know, you can't guard my mother. I won't look at

that as insulting, she's my mother. Yeah, does she still have that little durability left? Well, the way there are quite some work now, probably. I was speaking to Cohen Carr, though.

“Are there ever times you're like, oh, my God, it almost stopped and be like, how did he jump so high?”

Because he's just, it's awesome watching him play in dunk. And I know that you don't want to get caught up in it in a moment, but is there, or have you ever been a moment where you're sitting on the sideline, you're almost like, leave your coaching brain and say, holy shit,

that was incredible. You know, I've got one lucky thing. We probably have 130 practices a year,

then you have another 20 of the summer, whatever it is. So I get the CM 150 times. So the 30 that is in the game situation, I've seen better dunks, you know, maybe in practice, but I've been blessed, you know, Jason Richardson, Shannon Robbe. I've had some great leapers in my day, but Cohen had six, six, six, you know, 230 pounds is one of the more powerful dunkers I've ever had. And he's such a good kid. I mean, he's just, he's the world's best kid and he's

starting to play better and better and better right now. And I really enjoy watching him go. Yeah. Yeah. Have you noticed this post season? I've heard a few coaches talking about it. Difference in the balls. Have the balls been as overinflated as we've been told for the last two years? You know, I have heard that. I don't, I, you know, like I said, I don't even get the touch up ball. So I don't know, but we've been shooting it pretty well in the last two games. So

as maybe I should inflate the ones we used during the year. Yeah. I've, I've just heard a few coaches talk about it. I've also noticed that it's coaches that just lost that tend to bring it up. So I've heard coaches talking about it too and

“there's been years that I think, you know, it is amazing that we play with five different balls.”

You know, we got balls here. We ordered like 12 balls from every ball company there is. So that if you're playing Wisconsin, it's one ball. If you're playing somebody else, Louisville, it's another one. If, you know, at least the tournament, they keep them the same. I don't know why we don't do like the NBA, just everybody plays with the same ball and call it a day. Yeah. I agree. Make a lot of sense. When the bracket came out, we, we were, we were talking

about this on Sunday, selection Sunday. Do you think that the committee has some type of like perverse thing where they just want to have Duke and Michigan State in the same region? Because it happens every single year. It's happened more than it share at times. I guess that's a compliment, but I don't think so. I, I think I agree with most of you guys, meaning the talking heads that, you know, the East is the toughest. I mean, I'm looking at a game tonight where Kansas

is playing St. John's in a four or five game, and I'm going, what the hell is that? Yeah, you know,

elite and have a chance, you know, unfortunately, we got a game before that. It'll be a lot harder,

“but when the bracket comes out, you know, I, I don't think there's any conspiracy. I just think”

that, thank God, we've been pretty good and they've been great over the last 20 years, so maybe it ends up that way. Yeah, I mean, just looking at the bracket in the East and just imagining, no matter what four teams are in that regional in Washington, D.C., you're going to get four all-time coaches going at each other. I was just looking at that when that came out. I was, I was getting excited about just thinking about the matchups. We could get out of it. I got a question

for you about about our good friend, John Rothstein, and how he always says January, February,

Iso. Can we change that up? So it's January, February, March, Iso. Wouldn't you rather be known for April than March? I don't care what I'm known for. I just want to win another game, and I want to work another night. You know, I have to all I want to do. I was so excited to come back last night. One of the few times we played on the Thursday Saturday format. So now today, we got the have a team meeting kind of go over a little bit just like so the week and a little bit of the film,

“but I think one of the big things right now is we get a little rest. We get the watch. The team will”

play. We get the watch and my strangers. It is, though, it's at 845 tonight. But I'll stay up and watch that. That'll be good. So I'm whatever John wants, whatever you guys want, I just want to be playing in March and April. How is that? Yeah. I want to change it to a January, February, March, iso. Yeah. And then we sleep in May. That sounds better to me. That does. Yeah. I noticed too in the locker room after you said, you said your players, you know, you guys get us these two. We'll get you

the next two. Is it really when you get into the tournament, your thinking of it is just week like you're not thinking ahead at all. It's just like these next two games in a pocket. And then

these next two games in the pocket. Because you've been elite at the second game in these, you know,

formats where it's a quick turnaround. Is it, you know, really, hey, now it's almost a new tournament starts, you know, when you get to the DC on Friday? Well, I stole it from my herd, Mike Shoshesky, one, say you got to win the weekend. You know, once you get good enough, that you, you're not just trying to win the first game, you know, like Nebraska. I mean, it was unbelievable setting last night. You know, when they, the first night, when they won their first NCAA game, I'm those are exciting

times. But when you win a national championship, then you realize that's, that's all people really care about to a certain extent. So what in a game does the Mario Year win the weekend? And so

we won last weekend. Now we got to win this weekend. And it gets harder to win the weekends because

“the teams get better. But that's what it's all about. And that's what we're going to try to do.”

Yeah. You're saying something about how this team has kind of rejuvenated you a little bit. Me, I don't know if you were saying they made you feel younger or they made you feel like you want to stick around and coach for what like they extended your career by two years, two seasons. What is it about this team? And is that like an accurate statement over you? We just mess around saying that they made you feel too much. I don't know, reporter, told me that it, it doesn't

seem to matter when it is. My team's look pretty similar. Sometimes a little more talent, sometimes not. But I think we play similar. And I just told them that's a compliment. And if he thinks that way, with the team I got in the last couple of years, it does rejuvenate. You know, this and it's been tough on coaches. Okay. It's been tough on people. These new rules. Don't kid yourself. And everybody's wondering what the hell? My guys have been so good.

You know, having lost a lot of them. Most of them are stayed. And they just make me feel good about the profession I'm in. So I've said it often lately. I still love the players. I still love the practices. I still love the job. I just, I don't respect them when the profession is right now. And, but we're partly to blame for that. Yeah. The MCAs, but blame, but the coaches are the blame. And administrators are to blame. I mean, this probably wasn't handled right. It's got to be fixed.

And all I want to do is be part of the solution. Yeah. So going, I actually have a non-bass ball question for you because when you said I'm Italian, I yell our producer who's very Italian. We actually have like all Italians. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He raises his voice. By the way, it's at a level. Yeah. Yeah. So that, by the way, that was my scouting report from McCron and don't raise your voice to them. Okay. So it's on camera dude. Don't do it. All right. So just don't do it. Don't let

it hurtly drink the piss. Don't let McCron and raise your voice. What is your favorite Italian

all three of those. So, you know, you pick and choose different times. But it's not like I'm eating

out a lot. So, you know, it's usually around the office and everything. But yeah, like Italian food, I like steak too. So I'm, I can go anywhere you want. Everything I don't eat is much as fish,

“which is the only thing good for you. So I saw the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Have you, have you had moments”

where you've, because, like I said, we have a lot of Italians in this office and I've heard them say sometimes where they're like, people like don't yell. It's like, hey, I'm not yelling. I'm just Italian. Have you used that before? Where it's like the, they just, their voice just goes up and they can't stop themselves. I think there's a little truth to that. I think every nationality has its own way of expressing, you know, sometimes Italians talk with their hands, other people. Do other things,

you know, but now I tell my players ahead of time. No matter what I say to you, take it for what I'm saying, not all I'm saying it. I know my own, you know, I got faults too, like everybody else. So I usually prep for a set every season, just worry about what's being said, that how it's being said, because I love you all. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. If you do happen to get into a matchup against Rick Patino, have you thought about where in the white suit? Fighting fire with fire.

Now, Rick, let's goodness white suit, man. He's done a hell of a job. Do you tell him what a guy that's reinvented himself a few times? You know, there's, there's one thing he can do. Boy, he can coach. And he's done it at all levels. And he's been successful at all levels. And it's going to be an interesting game tonight. Who are you guys picking? Let's put you guys on the spot. I mean, I picked Kansas, but then a Badunga just got too early foul. So that might not be looking too

“good right now. But I would, I think it would be a good look to have you trying to pull off the white suit,”

Patino trying to pull off the white suit. It would be a good idea. Yeah, I just battle the Titans going after it. But you know what? The difference is, Patino, where suits, I got to dress more like you guys. So yeah, we would say that. I want to bring back suits. I had that take a couple of weeks ago. I think college coaches should bring back suits. Now, some of the guys, like some of the younger guys, I get it. It would be weird if Todd Golden was in a suit, but

you got to be, you got to suit up. So, so do you think you do suit where suits on me? Absolutely. Absolutely. No, I'm not talking about it. We get we get stains on them. We're sloppy guys.

Well, we've never worn suits. So the precedent is never going to suit when everybody's

sweating all over me. I mean, I mean, I'm always looking up at guys. I'm vertically challenged a

“little bit. So I want my nice suit. Maybe bring out the Grinch sweater again. That was an all-time look.”

That was camp. He's another reason to work. I will coach. We really appreciate your time. Whenever you come on with us, it's so much fun. I got one last question, rowback question, RHO, back.com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Cusys, Polos, hoodies, jogger shorts, rowback.com, promo code take. Do you look at your own stats ever? Because I have a stat that's pretty impressive. But Tom is so stat. Do you ever see them? You know what, people throw

them at me once in a while and it'll be common for me to say not really. And then everybody says, oh, sure. But, you know, the only stats I care about are the banners hanging. And even those, I just don't think people are going to look back. You know, they talk about legacies and all that. Hell, people, the greatest person in the world, you know, they're gone in the next week. They forgot about them. So I just worry about, you know, can I have an impact on a game? Can I really have

an impact on players that hopefully will last the lifetime? So any other stat, I don't know, you know, I get a lot of them thrown at me when we accomplish something like Bobby Knight's record, you know, and I say, yeah, but, you know, I bring more conference games than he played. We got more teams,

though, you know, there's always records are not equal. Yeah. Well, here's the stat. I want to throw

at you. You're 26 and nine on two-day turnaround games, the NCAA tournament. So that's the second game of of a weekend. And seven of those losses have come to either a number one seed or eventual national champion. Essentially, the stat is, you know, lose games, you're not supposed to lose. And you, and especially when you're playing the set, you know, the backed back games, or, you know, there's a day in between. But that's pretty insane. You're 26 and nine. If you win the first round,

you're going to the sweet 16. If you win that, you know, if you win in the sweet 16, you're going to the final four. It's, it's a hell of a stat. And it speaks to your coach, because I assume that quit 24-hour turnaround, that's when you got to be a lead at coaching.

film together. And you got to have cerebral players that can pick up things and like 30-minute

“film sessions and walk throughs and all that. But I guess that would be a stat I'd be proud of.”

You know, I, I, I appreciate that. But, um, all I want to do this week, I want to win the

weekend, but I want to really win the first game first, you know. Yeah. Now be Friday night.

Yeah, coach, um, I've a request for you. Throw that white suit question out. That's, you know, some Mickey Mouse stuff. If you guys win another national championship, will you bring back the musical, is it a ghost Broadway? Will you get back on the stage? If we win another national championship, I just might do something that crazy. I know a guy who could produce it and we could raise some money for cancer like we did last time. I can fly YouTube guys in and you guys would be part of the

show if you guys were white suits. Yep. And I'd let you announce behind your little desk there. Let's see if we can go for it. We'll all be happy. And I'll look forward to seeing you guys in a

“couple weeks. Hey, we'll do it. I'll be happy to be part of that show. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well,”

thank you so much, coach, you're the best and best of luck coming up in the sweet 16. Thanks a lot, guys. My son is going to be more happy than I did your show going to even me, so I love it. I love it.

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“the map. He's just upset. He's just wanted to focus on Northern Ireland tomorrow. Is that tomorrow?”

Yeah, it's tomorrow. Jim Bayheim murdered Syracuse basketball with his last year's slash to par chair. Careful, careful. Those words together. Say what you want about Coach K, but at least it chose a worthy successor. Yeah, Jerry McNamara. You got blessed to broken road that led us to him. I feel like you know, this is destiny. I will say, okay, I'm going to say something nice about Coach K. I do think that part of your legacy should be how you leave it to someone else and what it looks like.

Because there are some guys out there that like don't care what happened. You know, they're almost rude against the team. Uh, not saying Jim Bayheim did that. Well, yes, leaving it to

good for Jim Bayheim because Syracuse is, okay, I'm sure it's more complex than what I'm saying right

“now. But it has been sad to see what's happened with Syracuse. All right, but you can also say, yeah,”

credit to Coach K because John Shire so far has like not been a bad coach. He's been pretty good. Well, and also Coach K. I will say I can't I hate that I'm saying anything nice about Coach K, but he did have a lot a lot of guys to choose from to be his successor and also I would say the right seemingly the right one and up. But I would say a Duke your prime for success a lot more so than you are Syracuse. Because there's more stuff that goes into it than like Syracuse has had some

in ILS shoes with money. Syracuse is not not the same program as Duke. I just I Duke was going no matter who they hired to be the next coach as long as it wasn't like a complete nobody. They were going to be

set up in a position to succeed and at Syracuse might not necessarily be the same. Yeah, and Syracuse is

another one of those schools that has been hurt by the fact that football is king and they they went from a big school to an ACC school to chase the football dollars and they're a basketball school.

“And it should be a basketball school and I want Syracuse to be good at basketball.”

People still aren't talking about shock smart reaching one sweet 16 with all the resources of market and missing the tournament altogether. The time for change is now. If Kohlik didn't work out he would have been he would have nothing to hang his hat on which is embarrassing. He had one good year 10 years ago for some reason hangs around producing nothing of substance. I want to say nothing of such like he's been it's been disappointing for him. Yeah, someone a market fan

pointed out my take on shot because I I had this take with frosting what it was like two weeks ago

and after the badgers got pounds they're like dude. The shock of smart and gray guard have been like the same sweet 16's like how the how the fuck you explained that. I was like I root for one of the guys and don't root for the other. That's a pretty good explanation why my my my my bar for success completely changes. Yeah it's pretty pretty simple but yeah no it is it's a it's a cautionary the shock of smart is the cautionary tale of don't succeed too much too early. The shock of smart

is that everyone's going to just be like where's that guy? He's also the cautionary tale of don't be bald by choice dude. Yeah like come on what the fuck was that? Yeah it was weird dude. Yeah like yeah okay we get it you have hair now but like you don't have to rub it in everyone's face. A lot of hair. My culture is not your costume. Him and Nick Wright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah right to that. Good point like Nick Wright is a friend. We have to have a mark on NBA playoffs but you can't do that.

You can't do that to bald guys. You can't like that's really me. There's enough that we have to deal with. Yeah. All right last one how many most following times are we going to see teams down three in the final seconds to the Grand Hill. He passed down the court. I don't know if I've seen one clean catch of the ball all season just pass horizontally and take a chance and have court. Yeah I wish that I actually my take is I wish that we would get side out of bounds in college

basketball because it would make it more exciting at the end of games. When you have like one and a half seconds left there's just a zero percent chance you're going to get a good shot off and it would be awesome if you get side out of bounds. But the the times that you do get a good shot off that is kind of it kind of rocks. It seems like three and a half seconds goes a lot further than it used to though. Like if you were to Xavier Lee got down the court. Yeah that was another

one pendulum column I know that I'm just I need to stop glazing him but the way he defended that it was so perfect. He had a what oh sorry I thought you were loving the he like set up a wall where Xavier Lee almost got disoriented and drove too deep. Yeah where a lot of teams will try to guard you from the beginning. He didn't they didn't they let Xavier Lee get to half court but they like almost sunk their wall so it was like disorienting where he was driving too.

“He's fucking good coach man. Yeah he's the I what is the Cinderella if you want to Cinderella.”

But yeah we're I'm saying though it feels like 1.5 seconds doesn't go as far as it used to. Yeah and 3.5 goes way further than it used to. 3.5 is a full. It's eternity. Yeah it's just darling on St. John's. Yeah I was a that was a full possession. Yeah I'm excited for who's this can be a great 360 16. I would last thing before you stop. Everyone give your full game predictions for. So we we bet what's our parallel hey again. Texas. I think Purdue wins. Texas

covers. I guess we have to say Nebraska. I think Illinois win. And Arkansas. Arkansas. Yeah. I think Arizona wins. Arkansas covers. I think I think Illinois wins. I think Illinois is going to final four. No I think Houston. I think Houston and I think they do it decisively. You could be a blow out Illinois? Yeah. I don't think a blowout. I think

Houston's the wagon. Good. Get with hey drop your tics. Hey blow out. I think it's eight. I'm

“like a lie. It's eight. 18. Whoa. Hell yes. 18. All right we don't have a lottery ball. You want”

to do numbers on here. Ready? I'm going to do eight. 18. 56. 4. Hi. Can you do an 18 for the amount of

holes that you're going to play tomorrow? No. I was doing for the Houston Illinois thing.

Okay I just talked about good coincidence though. I'm going to go try my play.

“Adam you want to guess a number more fourth. Eight. Just guess a number.”

One hundred. 52 is just guess. Eight. Eight. There we go. It doesn't really count on one sucks to win. Yeah no. I don't care. I don't care. It shouldn't even do it on the ground. I feel I feel better about my cougars. My prediction. Eight. Yeah. Eight. It was eight. It was eight. All right. Happy birthday

“to Mike White from the jats. Sarah just for a notice. Survivor. Thank you. He's one of the”

easings. He's in and. Survivor drumming. And who did new millionaire P. Crore Armstrong. Yes. Did you tell him happy birthday when you said I saw happy. Do you say happy birthday? I said happy birthday Joel. Okay happy birthday to P. Crore Armstrong. Yeah your rich. He's super rich. Have fun being rich tomorrow in the man. That kind of sucks at like your birthday the day that you get super rich is like

also your first day of work. Well no Thursday's first day of work. Oh yeah good point. Have fun. Yeah

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