Matthew And Brady Tkachuk, Taylor Twellman Talking World Cup, USMNT Sucks At Soccer Again + Mt Rushmore of Aquatic Animals

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today. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, July 8th. And we suck at soccer yet again. It was an ass kicking. It was now there's no no candy code in this one. We got our asses kicked. That was the worst performance from the US that I've seen in years. Just completely lackluster from the start. So much blamed to go around

Tim Reem, friend of the program, good guy, over the hill, turned into soccer Sean Bradley before

“our very eyes got dunked on twice. Just overall just sluggish. Just what about the goalie?”

Yeah, I mean that was the most embarrassing goal that I've ever seen possible. He did the young way cool. He just couldn't get. He hit the ground. And that's that was a knock he gets Matt Turner to his his his play with his feet is known for being pretty poor. So we thought maybe with Matt frees he might be better at that. Absolutely choked that one. And then Tim Reem decided to just jump out of the way the ball when they shot it up net. Really, really bad. For the one,

I would say it doesn't even really do adjusters. I would say in the PFT expected goals category, I had Belgium 6 US. Point five. And we had to go, Malik Tillman, maybe the the only guy that showed up yesterday and seemed like he was playing with this hair on fire. Still love that guy. So much blame to go around Christian, Pulaske. The long, anointed Captain America future face of this league for American soccer. Absolute no show of a game. I would say worse than a no show of

a game. And then he checks himself out. Just looks lackluster. Looks like he doesn't care at all. Had the most turnovers on the field of anybody that played. Just really, really, really bad. As disappointing, as I've ever seen, as disappointed as I've ever been in US soccer after this game, losing, getting our ass kicked by Netherlands in the last World Cup, we at least played harder.

That's the problem is like, we looked like we weren't even playing hard. No imagination,

no, no, no pace on our counter press. It was just bad all around. There's really nothing good

really nothing that you can take out of that game. It was a failure of a World Cup.

“Yeah, I said, I said, before it started, we have to get to the round of, we have to get to the quarter”

finals. Very minimum. And no, we beat people were making very mean jokes online that we were James Franklin, Penn State James Franklin, and it is actually perfectly appropriate because if you look at who we played, we beat the teams who are supposed to beat. We lost to Turkey. Now, obviously, that game, maybe we weren't playing all of our starters, but still, we lost to Turkey. They're ranked around us. And then we absolutely got asked fucked by the team that was better

than us in Belgium. We are not who we thought we were. No, that's actually literally what I said about the US before the tournament was that we were Penn State. We were Penn State football. Yeah, that has been the perfect comparison of Penn State football. We play every time we, you know what, like for the longest time, all you've needed to do in the United States is like beat Mexico once every two years. And maybe that's just what we're going to do. Maybe that's just

the future of US soccer. It's like, well, beat Mexico once every two years will barely make our way out of group stages most of the time, unless it's on home soil, then we'll put together a team that looks pretty good. We'll barely make out of the group stage, might beat an inferior opponent, might take a good team to extra time. But when the rubber meets the road, we play against a

good team from Europe, they're just going to put it down our throat. And that's just what's always

happened. It's probably what's going to continue to happen. And every four years, that's okay. I'll keep shoveling that shit into my own mouth. I will fall for it. I will overdose on copium. I will get very excited about US soccer. And I'll be disappointed again four years. What do you say about the Golden Generation? Because this was we, we had a disagreement a few months ago, like when we, well, actually was whenever we got poaches the coach. And I was like,

hey, we keep switching coaches. Maybe our players just suck. And I all I heard was all well, pool of such plays for Chelsea. And all these guys are really good. And it's the best we've ever been. It's definitely not the best we've ever been. We've been better. We've gotten further. We sucked. No, so that's the, that's the thing is from a talent standpoint. You can't just throw out the rest of the top leagues in the world and they're scouting departments and say,

they have no idea what they're doing. Because they do have US players on their team. So the talent

“is there. But this is what I was, I was told, that's is the time. That's what I'm saying is like,”

you can't say that the players aren't physically gifted and talented. They have the, you know, they're assigned to the best teams sometimes. Certainly in the top leagues in the world. So like, you can say that, you know, the club teams in Syria don't know what they're doing. But they, they think that our players are talented enough. They just mentally just shut the bed. Like, there's something about the toughness that we lack. I don't know what you can say about that.

I thought poach overall did a good job coaching this team and we did look good against Paraguay, who ended up going on to beat Germany and then, you know, they played well in the knockout stages. So they're, you did a good job at that team. We didn't get anywhere further than we've ever got disappointment. Huge disappointment. So you can say you did a good job. I still stand by the fact that, like, the players from a talent standpoint should be with the exception of like, you know,

we have the 39-year-old center back and he's playing in MLS. But, um, or captain. Or captain? Or captain? Or captain? Or captain? Yeah, just, that was Hank there. Yeah, that was Hank. Listen, there's, there's no excuse for, like the mentality on that. I just don't, I just been told this

“a golden generation. We just got to the exact same spot and got embarrassed. That's what I've just been saying.”

It's like, we're just going to keep nothing's going to change. No matter how good we think we're going to be, we're going to keep, keep overdosing on the copium and it's, it was really, it was a, it was a bad performance as, as disappointed as have ever been in US soccer. Given, we had every reason to be excited about this team, too. We did. They played well in the group stage. We, we'd be the teams who should have been. We lost to, like, we played okay. We played okay in the group stage. Right.

But we, we, we, we, and then beat the teams that we should have been, which doesn't always happen

with US soccer. Like, across the board, look back through the world cups. Like, we don't always beat the teams that we should beat. And we never beat them in, like, just a, a physical, like beat down fashion that we did against Australia and against Paraguay who granted aren't the best soccer teams in the world. I agree. Like, we can't do that shit against European teams. We've seen that time and time again. But there was reason to have excitement about this team. And then just to have

a, just a complete cluster of the game like that sucks ass. I do feel like the fact that it was being held in the United States. People were watching these other teams being like, oh, we're in this too. Like, we can make a run at this. If this was being held, like, you know, like it wasn't guitar. I don't think the people were convinced that this team was, like, really good and got to make a run. Just because it was happening around them so much and like, oh, this world cups in the US,

where the US were in this, like, we can beat these teams. It was, I mean, it was fun. It rooting

deja vu all over again, where it's every four years we do this. And then the thing pieces come out being like soccer, it's too expensive. And we don't have enough guys, kids playing it. What if we just suck at soccer? Like, we just suck at soccer. That's okay. We have so many fucking awesome things. We're, we're dominant in football. We're dominant in basketball. We're dominant in baseball. Well, we didn't win the World Baseball Classic. We're dominant in hockey. We have awesome sports. We have

march badness. We just suck at soccer. And that's okay. I don't think that we suck at soccer. I

“think that we suck at soccer. No, I think you would say if you get bounce in the group stage,”

you absolutely suck at soccer. We suck at soccer. We are a master. Our country is big as ours with the resources that we have. We absolutely suck at soccer. We massively underperform at soccer. That's the way that would blow. That's, that's a, that's a nice way of saying we suck. That's

necessarily underperform. Come on, BFT. We suck at soccer. I think you guys want to be more critical

of this team than I am, but you can't. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't. Well, I just was, because I said, we suck at soccer. Yeah, we don't. Well, you can't beat me at this, because I am, I'm so nervous. You said, we suck at soccer. I'm so much more pissed off about about how this team perform. That's for sure. That is, yes, I agree. Yes, I, I couldn't agree. Yeah, that's absolutely true. You guys cannot beat me. It's a competition of who's the most upset you win for sure. I am

definitely the most upset. Yeah. Like, it's, it's suck. That's shit suck. Fuck that. Fuck, you are soccer sucks. Right. Fuck it. Yeah. I just think most, it's, what, what? Belgium has 11 million people in their - It's like a wild. - It's wild. - Like a wild. - This is a good soccer. - This is a good soccer. - And this is a good soccer. - It's a good soccer.

- It's a good soccer. - It's a good soccer. - It's not even one to top three Belgium 10. - And it's all the last 20 years. - This shit sucks. - We suck it sucks. - We suck it sucks. - We suck it sucks. - We suck it sucks.

- We suck it sucks. - We suck it sucks. - But I'm gonna fall for it again. - We're gonna fall for it.

- I'm gonna, I'm gonna trip over my dick in four years.

- Great time for the world cup and be like, this year it's gonna be different. - And I'll be excited about it. - Oh, the one. - And then I'm gonna, and then we're gonna get thrown in again. - My take is not, my take is we suck it soccer and that's okay.

- Like I don't care that we suck it soccer anymore. I'm going to root for the U.S. team. I'm gonna get excited when we're in the world cup. I'm gonna get hyped up and it's gonna be fun to watch. And then I'm gonna be reminded that we suck it soccer.

- And then it's gonna be like, okay, yeah, that's okay. We suck it soccer, we get so many other things going on. - I disagree that I do care that we suck it soccer. I agree that we suck it soccer. I feel like there's just nothing that we can do though.

That's the thing is we try to fix it every single time. So it's like, what's the definition of insanity? Just doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. I'm no longer gonna expect a different result. I'm gonna keep rooting for the U.S. team.

But when inevitably every single time we get to the round of 16 and we're reminded that we suck it soccer, I'm not gonna be disappointed. I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, we suck it soccer. - So where I differ is that I will definitely

have my heart broken again. - I don't know, I'm gonna be like so far away from heartbreak though. We're so we're the levels to this. Like Belgium is like the ninth best team in the country and they just piece us.

There's so many other teams. Spain would've beat us by a hundred. Senegal would've beat us. - Easily.

“- So that's where that's like the level you should've done.”

- I can't get up. - We just didn't care. That's what I'm pissed off about is the fact that like, we looked like we didn't not care. - Yeah, no absolutely we're pissed off.

- The goal we had a Mac football play. - Yeah, that was a definition of Mac's and what he did there. - Correct. - The review of that goal is like, looks like a wreckly, like JV soccer.

- And he went to Harvard. - It does.

And that's the thing that the US has always had.

We've always had some of the best goalies in the world. What happened? - We've got three hundred four million. I mean, Tim Howard was really, really good. - You had no, I know, I didn't know that.

- Well, Tim Howard was really, really good. Brad Freedle was really, really good. In case the killer's really, really good. We've had very good goalkeepers and to have Matt Turner and Matt Freedle be the only two options

that we had at goalies. - Sounds like, sounds like we have like good catchers in baseball. We should just have them play baseball.

“Maybe that's what we should do instead of the conversation”

being like, how do we get our best athletes to play more soccer? Why is in pool a setch of fucking a wide receiver? He would be sick over the middle. He's got a little wiggle, but he would be a good wide receiver.

- He had like, let's do the opposite. Instead of being like, hey, we gotta get our best football players to play soccer. No, no, let's just get all the guys that are good at soccer to play like mid-level football, make college football

a little bit better. - If we want to get our best athletes playing soccer, we're not, Hugo Gonzalez is gonna play soccer. - Listen, we don't, it's not athletic. Let us, let us is neither.

Like, that's the thing, everyone's like, oh, it's athletic. No, we just suck at soccer. - Yeah. Is there not, it's not like all these other guys or just monsters outside of a few,

They're beating us with skill. We just suck as skill guys.

- Yeah, never close to skill gap.

You say when they're close to skill gap, compared them to rest of the world and soccer. - Right, yeah, yeah. - So it is what it is. - What about the coaching?

- It's due to a lot of blame, right? I didn't say anything about the coach.

“- That's what I'm saying, the coach, I don't even understand.”

- I think the coach deserves, yeah, if you come out looking like that in the most important game in, I'm gonna say, most important game in US soccer, this or the fact that it was a home world cup game.

- That's never been said beforehand. He just uses one time to say that. - Yeah. - Where were we in there like the final four? - No, 2002.

- No, we're in the quarterfinals. - Quarterfinals. - Quarterfinals, maybe. - Yeah. - I mean, I should not be the fact that this is on a home field

and that it had so much hype going into it. You have to put some of that on the coach. Absolutely, yeah, if you look like you, you slip walk through the entire first half. Yeah, that is 100% on the coach.

- He also didn't get further than any other coach and he had, what I've been told is the golden generation. So like that to me is like, yeah, why would he be a good coach? Like, he didn't do anything different. - He didn't do anything.

- He did do different things with a team if you want to talk about like, - The results of what we care. - The world we care. - And I don't care about that.

- And I said going into the tournament that, yes, that is it's gonna be on the coach because you do have players that should be the best that we've ever had. And if you listen, it just doesn't care.

That's what sucks. Like, guy like that can't be the face of US soccer. He does not care. He's like looking forward to getting his break.

He's never really been completely bought in

on playing in all the tournaments. Like, he doesn't really give a shit. We need a dog out there. He's not a dog.

“I think this guy, Kevin Sullivan, from Philadelphia,”

might be a dog. He tries to fuck people up. - We're doing this again. - Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready to stop. - I'm ready, but no, that guy...

- At the same as Philadelphia, got me back in. - He listen, can't, that guy like that cannot be the face of your team. Like, because you draw off that. And it seemed like he didn't care.

He checked out of two games. He did the same in the world cup in 2022. He just doesn't seem like he loves playing for the US national team. - And that's okay, but he shouldn't be playing

for the US national team. - Hey, I want to hear from you in a second, but I also should say, like Belgium should be embarrassed for themselves, for the crying they did with the balligan thing.

They were so much better than us. They could have beaten us with 10 guys.

They should never have said a word.

They should have been like, all right, cool. You guys are gonna get government interference to get him to play the game. We don't care, we'll still beat your ass. I would have respected that more.

So Belgium, listen, I'm, you won the game, Ferenc Square, they were mocking Trump in the locker room. That's all fair, you got to be able to do, we talk a lot of shit, they talk shit back. But the fact that they were ever scared of this team

is not that is not, it also, it probably gave them some bulletin board materials. It seems like everything stacked against them, going into the game. And they're like, fine, fuck it, we ball.

Pank, how are you feeling? - I mean, I feel sad, I was the first game that I really sat down and watched every second oven. It was over from the second it started. - I, we had 60 seconds of joy.

- I had, yeah, literally 61 seconds, like in real time, the game was back. I've had a lot of time in the airport, I had a lot of time thinking about the past few weeks. And I have been watching,

I know I said I don't like soccer. I feel like I said this in the beginning that the group stage is who cares, but once the elimination games come, it's electric. It's been very fun to watch.

Like it's been very fun to follow the last, you know, two weeks, last week at the beach was watching in the bar, all different people from all the for cultures, room, for different teams.

A lot of fun. I was excited about the USPFT. I was drinking the cool aid. Again, spent a lot of time in the airport was kind of bored as a guy.

Let's walk in, took PFTs, bed on draft kings. Like USA, USA, USA, USA, and within 10 minutes, the game was so clearly over there. - It's terrible. - Yeah.

That's what happened. And that's always gonna happen.

“- Yeah, that's what it's like, that's the,”

we suck at soccer. - And I think it's fine for people to get excited about it. I was excited about it. People in the, like, people every single bar

in the airport, in the Denver airport, was filled with people excited to watch the game. I think like 95% of people have completely forgotten that game happened, like, by tomorrow. And they're like, "All right, we suck at soccer."

Life goes on. - Yeah, I'm onto Summer League. - No, yeah, you guys, the worst place that I was on the other day. - Yeah, you're like, oh, I can't believe.

Like, you're still like, really upset. - PFT was in his, he was looking for anything last night. - Yeah, I was, I was hunting dopamine last night after the game was over, 'cause I was, I was so, so upset and so pissed.

I was more than I was angry about this. So we started just roaming the streets of Tahoe. I was looking for any dope we got some ice cream. I was walking by a store and Colton was like, would that make you happy if you went and rented

that three wheel spider car? I was like, absolutely, it would. I tried to rent a three wheeler. They said that they don't do it there. I had to go to a different store.

Then I went to the casino and gambled for about six hours last night, which did actually

So it was pretty happy about that. But no, I'm pissed off. I can't trigger code.

“I'm really, really fucking upset at how bad”

and how little we cared. And we can talk about like a lot of people are doing the hand-wringing over the youth programs and be like, what should we do differently? Wait, let's do that every Thursday.

There's time, there's time for that. When you lose in the playoffs, if you're a football team, you lose in the playoffs, you talk about the guys that fucking sucked on the field. You don't talk about your scouting department.

What? This is a football. Like, you care about football. Yeah. Right.

This is soccer, we don't care about soccer. No, I'm saying. (laughing) That's not true. You completely missed the point of what I was saying.

Okay, my God. Did you see the hypothetical that Steve and Jay threw out there? Is like, would you rather have your team win a Super Bowl or would the US win a World Cup?

I think I'd rather have my team win a week seven, again. That's not true. Maybe, maybe, but make them lose the packers, yeah? If it was the Cowboys, it would be a left-trick. If we won the World Cup, that's super bowl.

First World Cup is not even out.

Yes, super bowl. We had won two more games. I would've taken back every single thing I said and been like, this team is legit and we're a soccer power.

But it wasn't, we weren't even. We didn't even qualify for the World Cup. Oh, that's it. We were gifted and entering the World Cup 'cause we were hosting the party.

It's like, yeah, like you're having the party. You've been coming to your own party. And then they gave us our cupcake group stage and it was also an expanded field. It was like everyone, everyone got out of the group stage.

“That's why, I mean, we already did the who's most upset”

off PFT won that easily. I like rooting for the US men's national team. It was fun. The way we lost to a team like Belgium, who's not even like one of the top four teams

in the world, it's just the levels to it. Like you just see that, you're like, okay, cool. We're so far away, you can't. We're basically a team. We're basically like an 11 seed that won a play in game

and then they played, maybe they won the second round game. Then they played like an actual top 10 team got beat by 20 and you're like, all right, cool.

We were never even close to a final four.

Like I was never in the realm of possibility. - It is crazy though, 'cause Portugal lost. Messi is losing right now as we speak to the one to Egypt, which is crazy. So like, weird stuff happens to soccer.

This was not a weird stuff happens game. This was a vastly, vastly superior, more prepared opponent than we were. That's it, it was just... - Where are you gonna say, Max?

- We saw it. - The goaly thing was weird, that... - We saw it. - That had to have been made for normal and soccer, for some reason. - And it's like, any professional level.

- So here's the thing, Max, it's like, sometimes with goalies, they become goalies 'cause they're not really that good in the field and they don't really practice that much using their feet.

We've got two guys that kind of fit that description. And yeah, it was a why was he out there? - Is there, sometimes you got to come out and... - But he was so far out. - You can come out, a lot of goalies do come out that far

and... - Yeah, I know the ball. - But, I mean, it was a simple play and you can't fuck that up. - Do you think, are you, what are your thoughts about Hank in general?

- I need some word dopamine. - What? - What? (laughs) - That was an all-time make face. - Yeah, messy just scored.

- We're gonna talk about it after this, but yeah.

“- What does that sound like? - What does that sound like?”

- My thoughts on Hank. 'Cause I was into Hank's credit. He hasn't really done this yet. He's probably thought about it. But I thought we were gonna see Hank wheeling in the straw man

that he's been building for the last three weeks to be like, I was told that we were gonna win the world cup which is not something that I've ever said. So I'm pleasantly surprised with Hank. So a good job, fair play to Hank.

- You haven't said that. - Yeah, I know, I thought that you would say like, I was told that we were good enough to win the world cup. - I've known this, that like, I've been well aware of where Hank's dress is.

- How shag Hank was right. - The whole time, I've just been laughing when it's senior, but this has been a thing for like three years. My issue, again, like the world cup is fun. Like I have enjoyed the world cup.

I know I said that in the beginning, like I don't care about soccer. World cup, entertaining, good summer entertainment, knockout games or electric, star players, all that stuff. We're not even part of the world cup in my mind.

But the problem is gonna be,

and like somehow it's gonna happen in like three months. Like I don't know how it's gonna happen. It's gonna like be like way too quickly. We're gonna be in like a con-cath, like sectional, against like Jamaican, PhD's gonna be like,

oh my god, we won four to one, like we're back. That's when it gets annoying. And then it doesn't, like it just keeps coming up, where it's like, I'll tell you, it does not matter. Every time you talk about soccer

for the next three years, it doesn't matter. We, I won't talk about soccer, right now. Like, there's a chance now that we're not hosting world cup, we're gonna even qualify for the next one.

Yeah. So it's, we don't qualify them within,

they should just never place soccer.

I mean, we've only missed qualifying for the world cup one time since what 1990. So it's not like we have a hard time qualifying usually. We did fuck up bad in 2018. I will not like, I don't really talk about soccer

unless it's the US and the world cup.

“So the only way, I'll tell you how they're gonna get me back.”

Hank might be talking about, hey, talk about like the Copa America and like, that's, I bring up once every like nine months on the show and he's like, oh, why are we talking about this again? I'll tell you how they'll get me back.

They're probably gonna hire Pep as the head coach at the national team and if they do that, I'll get back in. I'll get back in. What?

Who's Pat? That's one of the best coaches of all time. And he's, he said in the past things that would make you think, maybe he wouldn't hate coaching. His best friend is Joe Mizzula.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And how would you get him back? How would you get him back? His Joe Mizzula's favorite coach.

What's his, what's his accolades? He's got, he coached, he coached all of it all. EPL. Champions League. But even if we have the best coach of all time,

we'll never have the guys.

Correct. That's not what that was what that was what I was saying. Like that, it's okay to just, again, it's okay to be like excited about the world cup excited to watch USman's actually, I mean, in that camp.

I was so pumped to watch that game last night. But it's like, hey, we're just never going to be on par with the best countries in the world because it's never going to be our number one sport.

It will never be important enough. And it's, it's a reality. It's so much further ingrained in those cultures and countries. I like, they skill gaps too far. We'll never keep up.

Uh, yeah, it's about it. We're cooked. Yeah, I will say like, none of this isn't even political, but I'm not, I'm not a parent, but I don't understand. I do like, hockey is expensive sport.

And they always talk about like how like travel soccer is like pricing how people, how is travel soccer expensive? Yeah, I mean, well, they do because it should be the it's also the people that set up the, like travel hockey, you travel baseball and kind of,

little more, like the equipment they don't want. Yeah, yeah, the people that set up the youth leagues around America did it in a way to make themselves money. When it first started being talked about as like the sport of the future, quote, unquote,

back in the 80s and the people that set it up, they set up the leagues to benefit them.

“So you have to pay if you want a good coach”

and not like somebody's dad that is read a book about coaching soccer. You have to pay that guy a lot of money. The field rentals cost a lot of money, the referees. They try to like swag the kids out with cool equipment

and bags and shit to make it feel like you're not completely wasted your money, but that system is completely broken. It sucks. And I thought coach, he talked about it a couple weeks ago.

He was like, the reason why we don't have the most skilled players in the world is 'cause like all these kids grow up with a soccer ball at their feet from the time that they can walk. And everything about like playing keep away from your brothers or sisters or like your dad tries to get the ball

and you just dribble it away from like, you've got all those tiny little muscle memories built up because you've been playing soccer since you were like two years old. And unless we get every kid in America to do that, which we won't, then we're gonna have,

there's gonna be a skill gap there. It's not necessarily about having our best athletes playing soccer, although that would help. It's just about just having that deep background for each individual player.

- Again, I think, I think Hake Hake was too, when he could have gone a long way and towards the future of soccer, but like no kid was watching that game. - Oh, yeah, no, that's been a hit.

- They had, yeah, they had even come, they had like, lost and shootouts. - Right. - Let alone, they won that game. It's like, I'm saying it wouldn't have been a pendulum

that's long, but it swung the wrong way. - If we had lost in penalties out of been like, I would actually have been disappointed.

“The way we lost, how could you even be disappointed?”

So it's so far away. - Some of the best players in the team didn't even grow up in America. - Yeah. - That's what we're eating.

- That's what we're eating. - That's how the whole world is. - We need more of that. - But it's like, how is that even? - We do need more foreigners to play.

- Yeah, we need all foreigners to do. - Yeah, we should actually have as few Americans as possible. - Right. - On our American soccer team.

- That's one three champions league, six EPLs. - Very good. - He's the best friend. - He's one three champions league, there's two different teams. - Any health to Celtics when the NBA championship.

- Probably a couple years ago. - Yeah, he's, but again, Zach, it feels like you're gonna be like the Pep. - It will matter, you can't let you so much. - Must have just find a bunch of players

that aren't American to be American. - Because it's like, he goes to get to AC Milan, drive he's a great coach, but it's a golden age if we have these as the best players for this U.S. team that will ever up into this time is our best shot.

It doesn't matter, because it's so ingrained through generation, like, say if Hank has a kid, he loves soccer, Hank's not gonna be able to teach his kid about the game. - He will not.

- The way that he did. It's just like, the gap is too big.

It'll never be closed, unfortunately.

I'm saying that's the move that they could pull that. That could bring me back and get me excited again so that I will have my heart broken again. - What are the thoughts on maybe just getting all the way behind rooting for country

and not the actual game play? 'Cause you know the game play probably will end at heartbreak. - And that's me, that's true in for country. And it's like, it's the name on the front of the jersey knowing that we're probably gonna be

in the exact same spot in four years. Sweet 16, look like shit. - The party of the World Cup is fun. - Correct. - That all the bars get stewed back

and everyone's having fun on this whole side. - Talking shit, I don't take back any of this shit I talked to. - No. - It's fun to talk shit. - It's so fun when you're just peace and up Bosnia

and you're peace and up all these little puppies. - And hurts giving up. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm just fucking 'em up, who do you pair away?

Get out of here. - That was fun.

“- See, that's what got me back was seeing how we played”

because we've never played like that before.

And so I was fully bought in and it's, Hank was right. It's not gonna happen. - Can we actually play like is there a way that we could just play an independent schedule?

Like can we be like be why you kinda does this? Whereas like if you just play, if you play teams that you can beat and then you go to the playoff or you go, step up and competition, you one time a year, you get killed.

But let's just like stack a schedule where we just win all the time. - I think what you're saying is like, - All this countries and we just fuck 'em up. - And then maybe we'll need to get some money.

- That's a problem. - And I would actually be worse for us. - We'll become Notre Dame party with us, smoke dust. - Become Notre Dame and we have our traditional game against Mexico every two years and then we just schedule.

- Yeah, the worst countries from around the world, we go to the Americans, we like winning. And that's the worst part about this is that we're competing

in a sport that we're never gonna win that.

So it's like I kinda don't, I will take my ball and go home.

“- We got a home and home against Nepal in the next three years.”

- Yeah. - And then every time World Cup qualifying comes around, we just tell FIFA like look at the numbers that we put up in the last three years. We lost two games and we won 12,

most of them were against Kurdistan. So we should be in the World Cup by our resume that we put together. - Corrects. - Okay, let's talk some more World Cup,

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- Okay, Henry, hot seat, cool throne. - My hot seat is my, my rush more partner of the guy sitting next on my right. - Oh no, Zach, Zach, by the way, can I before whatever hank is about to say,

your eyes have been insane today. - I appreciate that big I thank you. - Like, it's so kind. - I think maybe they're just matching Lake Tahoe's blue, but oh my god.

- There's no context. - And he's doing context. - Oh, they're popping. - Thank you. - You're not doing PEDs, are you?

There's no like blue contact lens? No, just like standard from the eye doctor. - Okay, we were active today on the golf course, I didn't, I didn't want to raise the glass for him. - Yeah, yeah, it's all right.

Like I said blue, put him in sport mode with the context. - Yeah, so now that we're giving you this compliment hank go ahead. - Okay, I sent out when live last night and they announced, there was this list is long.

All the people that got accepted in the stream of university. - I know. - People like chas, delicious, cool butterfly,

- Dean Blindino, cute guns, King 68, the great.

So pink, yeah, and red to funny. - Zacky blue eyes. - No, Zack, on this list that I saw. - No, Zack. - There's rock grade streamers.

“- Zack, you know what the first question is going to be?”

- Mandel millions, you know, from other than them. - Not entirely, that might be a different demo on the, I'm not sure. - Do you know where this is about to go for that? - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that.

- You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that.

- You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that.

- You know where this is about to go for that. - You know where this is about to go for that. - That's where. - Centin, swear, all the way, yeah. - Okay, I could find it. - Did you finish the video on time?

- Yeah, I got it in. I have a screenshot. That was where did we go? - So you and Jill and Brown both got rejected. - Application was sent to the right now.

- Okay, definitely put it in. - What fee was there to apply it to streamer you? - I didn't have a fee to apply. - Okay, so it was like to bring up a phone round online that like you had to pay $3,000 to apply

that just wasn't the case. - So you, why didn't you get accepted? - A lot of grades, a lot of great people applied. I didn't get accepted. - They should do like it.

They should do an ex-interview with you. Like I wanna know why you didn't get in. That'll be nice if they said, hey, if you're looking to get in next year, here's the things that you could improve on.

- They let raw dog moon in. - No, raw dog moon. - I will say it's a big university.

I've never gotten into a big university before,

more of like a community college guy, but yeah, do they streamer community college? - I would just get-- - The universities are easier to get into than smaller universities.

- I didn't get any big university. - No, that's on the whole, it's probably.

“- That's like, the ACT SAT stuff that you know what I mean?”

- Yeah. - Do you think there's a chance for you to get your dad into streaming so that way you become a legacy streamer? I think what needs to happen is like, you know how you get, you get your GPA up and then you transfer?

I tend to work now on getting my streaming GPA up so that I can transfer at different times. - So take care of your dad's right now. - You need to go to like, Dr. Disrespect's community college. (audience laughs)

No, I know what I said. I just, I know what I said. - I just think head down and stream more. - I don't know about Dr. Disrespect's. - Myers-Linard.

- Myers-Linard you. - We just got head down and work boys. I didn't get accepted. Shout out to everybody who did this. I'm gonna be super great learning.

- No, you're not shout out. - Fuck 'em. Fuck Rod Dog, moon. - Is that key things? - Do you think you're right to bank?

- Wait, say that one again? - Straight, the number two, TH bank. - Straight to Iraq, that's right to the bank. - He looks like a bank. - That guy's richer than all.

- Yeah, that guy's a bank. - That guy's, that guy's a paper write. That's good name. - Fucking Josh got in. - That's a fucking Josh.

- Fucking Josh, man. - Shut up fucking Josh. - That's the U as a V, but.

“- Zack, I think that maybe you need to stream more.”

I think that that's probably good to start. - You gotta start. - Yes, you get those streaming numbers up that way when you apply, they look at your resume and say, "Okay, he's not actively trying to start stream."

'Cause I'm sure they don't want to let people in that say, I want to start streaming. They want people that have shown that they want to do it on their own, that are dedicated to it, that they know will come in and then take the education

that they get, which I'm sure is extremely valuable, and put that into practice. - That's what I'm saying. Head down, just gotta stream more. - Zack, would you?

- We'll lock step with that, P.T. - Okay, okay. - Can you play more correct? - Do you like me to tell you the truth or say nothing? Do you have those options?

- Oh, it's always a truth, yeah, for sure.

- You don't want me to just say nothing. - I, I would, I would, I would. - I mean, I'll take it, I'll take it truth. - I'm insanely disappointed in you. - She said he wanted the truth.

- All right, I, I understand that. - Exactly, exactly, seemingly seem to be. - Zack, no, I had to throw it in the same way. - Exactly, I want to say so, definitely. - I'm not, I'm not insanely, I'm, I'm just pretty disappointed

in you, I, I take that, I take what you're seeing and I've seen that and I completely understand that. - What I'm at, yeah. - We're not mad, yeah. - We're just disappointed to a, to a, to a level

that you've never experienced in your life. - Exactly. - I'm insanely, I'm proud of you for trying. - I, no, we didn't try hard enough, 'cause we didn't get into it, if we were to try it hard enough,

we would've got it. - I wasn't putting enough work into it to even be, be considered, and that's all me. - I'm disappointed in how hard you try it. - I might be more disappointed in you than the time

them when your dad had to fire you from the car shop. - That was family stuff, though. - Yeah, that was. - Well, no, that was business. - The firing was business.

(laughing) - It didn't, it leaked over a little, but not, not too much. - Zack, so, what I like to do when I have a problem that I'm trying to solve is I try to figure out, how to, how to divide it into small steps.

So, if we're gonna try to stream more,

what's the goal that we could set? - I just gotta get, I just gotta get in the lab on it. Not only like a regimen base, but also like, not just going into it to go into it, you gotta come in with a plan, you gotta come in and do it.

- How many times a week?

“- Yeah, that's what I'm asking, thank you, Mims.”

- What do you, how many times do I think what makes sense here? - How many hours a week? - Let's talk about that. - What do you think I would do?

- It's like, what makes sense for me to not be insanely disappointed? - No, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think hours. - I actually don't care how many hours you stream as long as you get into stream or university. Like, I can't believe that our son didn't even get into college.

- We're not gonna pay your rent anymore. - I hate to say this is the job, you gotta get a job. - You gotta go get a job or go to college. Those are choices. - This was tough the first time, this is tough for the second time.

- How many hours a week? (laughing) - How many hours a week can we dedicate to streaming's act? - I don't want to hear the word, I don't want to hear the word.

- The problem is you're calling here a projection.

- Seven days a week. - I want to hear the words will, not could. - I'm not the best at time management, but there's 18 to 20 make sense? - Sure.

- It sounds like you're afraid of streaming. - You know, 18 to 20, I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know. - That's a station strong, right, that was too strong. - That's a lot.

- You saying back and down. - That's a lot. - That's better at time management than me. - Maybe, are you scared of streaming? - No, definitely not.

I'm not scared. I'm not scared of moi. Well, I'm sensing some fear. - No, I could not fear, no fear, no fear, no fear, no fear. - What is the source of the reluctance?

- No reluctance, I think we're in it. - There's definitely a good spot week, but we can work to get into a better spot. - Okay, how about 18 to 20 sounds ambitious? - That was strong.

- Okay, I can rip six, 16, I can definitely rip six, so we'll-- - 10, 10. - Let's say 10. - Let's say, even 10. - 10 hours a week?

- Yeah, definitely. - But that include, like-- - I can rip 10. - You're also streaming your house.

“- That's what I'm saying, I wanted to make sure”

that you can stream from your house too. We just need, we need you getting reps. - Yes, certainly. - And we're gonna help you out, but like, if someone else can't do it, solo.

- Still run the ball, yeah. - Yeah, solo, stream. - I think you gotta do, you gotta have a schedule. - Yes. - Regimen is good, right?

- Regimen is good. - Regimen is good. - I will say schedule is hard with our schedule. Like, we can't put it in. - Put down a cool card.

- Schedules hard with our schedule. - That's fat. - That's fat. - That streaming schedule is hard for us, seriously. - To make a consistent streaming schedule for Zack,

it is hard to do that with also the part of my take schedule. - Yeah, because Monday, Wednesday and Friday's are not-- - But then sometimes we have an interview, like we would say like, okay, every Monday, Wednesday, after the act.

But then we have this interview and then you can't do it that-- - Zack, can I give you a truth or silence again? Another option. I think I think I think I'll take a truth, because I don't think it's just--

- I don't think we'll fuck about this bullshit, streaming school. I just want your stream. - Okay.

“- I actually don't care if you didn't get in.”

- Fuck 'em. - You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna start our own streaming school. - No, no, no, no. We're gonna start our own streaming school.

- No, I don't wanna get in. You know, you go, they rejected my board. I reject them. - Zack streaming school for kids that can't stream good. Like, starting next year.

- I understand how my current stream-- - Yeah. - Yeah, we could pick up, like, and we'll just get the leftovers. We'll get the muteness. We'll have, like, you know, like,

get some seven year olds, some old people, some weirdos, and don't even know how to turn on the camera. - This is the idea, and we'll charge them all. - I could see how my current streaming resume is rejectable.

- Zack, Zack. - You gotta make that portfolio. It's like anything in life. - The thing is, you gotta build that book again. - You gotta figure out a schedule, yes, take to the schedule.

And really, this is just us saying, we think you'd be good at streaming. We encourage you to do it more. - The more.

- In fact, I'm close to issuing my first command.

I command you to stream more. - Yeah, I can do that. - 10 hours a week. - 10 pieces. - That's a command.

- Yeah, 10 pieces. - Also, do that. - The eye comment stands. - They look hot. - I did appreciate the comment.

- They're a compliment. - Several comments. - They're a book. - And I made the same with you of compliments on your eyes. - It's okay for this book to have a compliment

and also, maximum disappointment. That's okay. - Okay. - We learned from both. - They call it a shit sandwich.

- Yeah. - All right, Hank, good hot seat. - Great hot seat, Hank. - My cool throwing is no-vac, joke of it. - Yeah.

- Yeah, he's back. - One of five hour and 50 minute matches when we'll then still go and things onto the quarter finals. Maybe semi finals. - Let's go.

- Mm-hmm, insane, insane run for 39 year olds. (crying) - Okay, good job, Hank. Good job, Hank.

Because I fucked up who's back a week on Monday.

Ovee is back. Ovee's coming back to the capitals. And he might be back for three years.

“So I said, I didn't talk about Ovee at all.”

He said he's going back. His wife said he might come back and play two more years now. So Ovee's just gonna have a lifetime contract. He can go out on the ice as long as he wants. It's gonna stink if he has to play meaningful playoff minutes

because that was, it was not pretty in the playoffs. The last time we were in it, Ovee plays hockey. - No, I've had more serious questions for GFD. - Oh, I don't know. - Do you think your wizard's time has cut into your capital's time

because I feel like it's that was a wizard. That was wizard to do. That would not. - Good question. I forgot.

- That's valid. It took my eye off the puck. Yes, yes, it has. And that's the thing. It's like, my brain can only process so many sports at once.

And now that I've let the wizards into my life, it is pushing other things out. That's 100% true like earlier this morning. I accidentally stole a car. And that probably has a lot to do with the fact

that I'm going to do. - You just say that for fire, that's a good, that's a good, get more into that story. - Okay, that's it probably has something to do with the fact that I am paying more attention to the watching wizards.

So any mistake that I make, it's like, yeah, well, my brain is operating at 80% capacity because I've got wizard stuff floating around in there. Now, but Ovis back, that's very cool. I love watching Playhockey.

I also kept the car on and walked away. - Oh, we can get into this later. - I'll be firefetched on Friday too. - Yeah. - See if I need to do it for Beast and Seat fire.

- Comments are. Also, well, my cool throne is Sean Payton's imagination. - Yeah. - God damn, does this guy have imagination?

There's a Seth Wicker sham article that came out. It talks about, it was a year that he spent with Sean Payton and Sean had this idea.

He never brought it to the brass at the Broncos,

but he was considering it. He wanted to cuck himself, coach cuck and hire Bill Belichick to be the head coach of the Broncos until he got 15 wins and got the all-time wins record from Don Shula and then Sean Payton

would have to move to himself to being offensive coordinator to help Belichick get up to 15 wins and then he would have re-taking over. He should have had the holiday and chair on the sidelines. So the auto up in the booth coaching from the cuck chair.

- Yeah. - It's crazy that this was an actual plan or a thought that he had. This is one of the more hair-brained schemes of all time, but Goddamn I wish it happened.

- Yeah. - That's what I'm so upset about it. Like I got mad when Kaushanan came out and said that if the Niners had made the Super Bowl that one year where the Eagles kind of asked

for expeath them in the NFC Championship game that he was gonna have Phil Rivers come out of it at retirement for one week and playing the Super Bowl. I'm pissed off that I know that because now I'm just like Goddamn it,

I wish that it happened.

“That's what I'm thinking about the Belichick Broncos.”

- Yeah. - The All-Situation. - Also, it would have been funny if Belichick then fired a chunk. - As head coach, yeah.

- Yeah. - I mean you would have had the right. - You're gonna make a coach. - You would have had the right. He's gonna be, heck, what would you have felt about that?

- I would have loved that. I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a bro move. - Yeah. - For whatever, everyone. - That looks like deserves to be the all-time win leader

so that, what do you mean deserves? - Well, this is a participation bro? - Chorvy, what are you talking about? - deserves. - He's just deserves it.

- Oh, why? - Chorvy is talking to the game of football. - But I mean, don't sure, it did a lot for the game of football too. - Also, wouldn't the most deserving one be the one who did it? - Hey, they're still time.

I believe he deserves it. - I think, I think we'll get there. - I don't think Belichick would agree with you on that. - Yeah, no, he actually would say you're a pussy. - Yeah.

(laughing) - 'Cause his words, not mine. - Yeah. - That was good, but I was just right there talking to him. - Don't get mad at us.

- Not us. - I think I wish this had happened. - Really? I feel like you would have been upset by it. When Brady played for the Buccaneers, you weren't.

Like, Belichick coaching for another episode. - I swear. - When Brady played for the Buccaneers, what? - I'm just saying, like, it's what we were. - Anyway, what, how did I feel about that?

- Well, you were probably missing that he was the, that used to be the quarterback of the Patriots. - We talked about it every week on this podcast, and I was like, I'm rooting for Brady. - I know, but he got you.

- But ideally, he just got you. - You would want him to be the quarterback for your team. - But you just like did the thing where you invented how I feel. - Yeah.

- When Brady played for the Buccaneer,

he made it, that never, never.

- Take a step back from you. - You should have hated that. - He's got it. - Yeah. - It's very rare, but he's got you in the corner.

- But not with his beaten up. - But Buccaneer, do you agree with what I'm saying

“that, like, seeing Belichick coaching for a difference?”

- Yeah, he, like, it's got to be fair, right? - But he did just check me at you because he's saying he would root for Belichick. - Always. - Okay.

- All right. - He got you. - It's okay.

- Yeah, he did say he, he would've liked that too.

- All right, my hot seat is Hank

“because Chris Middleton's on the Wizards.”

- And that's a great signing. - The Avengers. - Yeah, that's a great signing. - That's a great sign. - Really good value too.

- Great value. - Listen, keep the same energy you had for the Tray Young contract when we make a good investment in a quality veteran. - That's what I'm saying.

- Also, my hot seat is Zach 'cause of streamer universe. No. - Zach, you're good. - Zach, you're good.

- Yeah, we're good. - Yeah, we're good. - We're in between the white lines. - I agree, I got a plan. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna put it together.

- Since we last spoke, Zach, tell me this. Let's actually, I just will go from a coma from Sunday night. Oh, I can't wait to watch for an Aldo and his next world cup game.

Oh, that's, that's great, you just woke up the other day. He gets to play Spain soon. - No, no, I'm waking up right now. I fell asleep on Sunday, woke up right now. - And where are you at?

Globally, what time zone? - Right now, right here, in this moment. Hey, I haven't seen any sports last two days. When's Rinaldo play again? - The Saudi league kicks up here in a couple months.

“- Oh, okay, well, all right, well, at least Messi's still in, right?”

- Yeah, I think Argentina may have won today. - Yeah, yeah, incredible game. - They did win, they did win, incredible game. - I'm really good goals in that game. - The, the, the, the, possibly rigged there.

- Argentina being down too old and then. - Oh, unfortunately no, not the Egypt coach is gone and all.

- Yeah, here's what I'll say about the media tour.

Here's what I'll say, it was good news about Argentina winning. Uncredible game, the header to go ahead with like five minutes left in the game, they score three goals, like rapid succession to save off elimination. The one good thing is it's not like I show a speed was there

saying that he somehow distracted Messi on his penalty kick that got saved. - He was right behind the net. - Oh, he was right behind the net. - He got, he got fucking owned again.

- It was a great save, though, and to fully answer your question, you'll never see Rinaldo on the world stage again. - He said he's gonna have the next world group. - The other heroes, I guess, maybe Portugal, I mean, Spain does, they don't have to qualify.

So I'm gonna think about three heroes. - A lot of guys compare that to the World Cup. - Max is lunch. - Mm-hmm. - They'll never sandwich jokes.

“- That's good, that's how it was tough, man.”

- So, I looked up the quotes from their head coach. This is about as nuclear as a coach can go after a game. - Okay. - So he said we looked better than the reigning champions, better than everything, but the result was influenced

by internal factors on the pitch, and external factors off it, perhaps they wanted to keep the world champion in the competition, perhaps they wanted Messi to stay in the running. In football, there are sometimes external factors

that go beyond the technical aspects, the world champion receives support at every level. - Mm-hmm. - Okay. - There seem to be pressures from the Argentina side

on this outcome, and they objected to the selection of the referee. We haven't seen respect, we haven't seen fair play. I want to put it in beautiful words and say hard luck, but we have been treated unfairly, and it has been an injustice. - Whoa.

- FIFA rigged? - There's a lot of examples of them kind of riding for Messi. Today wasn't one of my other. - Okay, there we go, there we go, there we go. That was a really good idea.

- That was a great game, that was a great game. - It was an awesome game, awesome game. - The VAR thing did suck though. - Yeah. - So like, take back a goal, what could have been one of the best goals

in the history of the world cup, to pull that back because of a foul that took place 90 yards away from the goal, that's the referee missed, I don't know where we're going with VAR, but we need to draw, we need to rain it in. - Yeah.

- We need to rain in VAR, it's gone too far. - Yeah.

- Okay, my cool thrones, I have two, the first is the big 12.

Actually, I should say the monster energy, big 12 conference because they signed a deal today with monster energy, and now they are gonna be referred to as the monster energy, big 12 conference. - That's real.

- I love this. - That's real, I love it. - This patch is on all the jerseys on the field. - Sure, it's perfect. - What a perfect conference for it.

- 'Cause you're gonna borrow these more money. - The monster energy, big 12 conference. Please refer to it by its given name. - Yeah. - So is the sun devil, like the pitch fork,

'cause I'm just gonna be the monster loader? - Yeah, I don't know. - That would rock. - It's crazy. - As he was probably the most monster energy university.

- Listen, I saw the numbers, I don't know if they're getting paid enough for this, but it is in the concept of it is smart and the fact that if you want your conference to do better, just sell everything, everyone gets a piece of it.

They can go get more players. You can be better, you will money makes money, you'll get more TV, right, all these things. So smart by Brett, you are Mac,

- What does this mean for the Dr. Pepper

to issue give away? - Is the big 12 gonna have like, are they gonna have monster energy giveaways? - Why don't have time? - I don't know.

- That would be pretty cool, and if they banned the underhand toss, that could, that level is the big 12 up, a step in my mind. - Yeah, it could, and then my other cool throne is ABS because it's doing its job, we have seven empires

that have formed the MLB that they will be accepting their buyout and retiring at the end of 2026. So all the empires are basically like, yeah, this kinda sucks 'cause we're getting shown up for actually sucking CB Buckner, Las Diaz,

Lance, Barksdale, some of the guys that are deciding to retire. - So, legends. - Good job, ABS. - Retirement to our friends.

- We're just getting the old guys out for Barksdale, yeah. - It's good, it's good, all right, Zach.

“- I think you are correct, the hottest sheet”

in the world today was anyone who wanted to see Purch go in 'cause Spain was a tough pool, when it comes to bracket, they fought hard. - I will say another hot seat, maybe got today, would have to be guys to try to live forever.

So, unfortunately, the gentleman who does do blood transfusion

with his son and spend $5 million on a company

to try to live forever, he's currently sick. - Oh no, that's a hot seat, I feel bad, he did a stomach like him. - Stomach's eating him? - Got an incurable autoimmune disease.

- I think I'm lying, he could just eat meat, maybe any would work. - Wait, what do you mean he's stomach's eating him? - I think his stomach is a diet. - I mean, is that like a diet?

Can we do that? - I think it's going to die. - Well, I don't want to die, but like, if you're stomachs eating you, then you're, I would assume that you're stomachs

just keeping it in smaller. - Also kind of sauce to be, to be eaten yourself. - That's when your girlfriend has a perfect pussy. - Yeah, medically. - Which he has told us.

I'll say it didn't know the autoimmune disease is uncurable, this feels a little insensitive now. - By who? - Us, by me, I feel bad. - No.

- I mean, he's made his entire life opening up his own medical books. - That's a good point, great point, PFT, I've won a real auto. It's a lot of advertising and publicity for himself on that.

- All right, I'm going to say something that, listen, I hope if this is real, I hope I don't want to hear it. I don't want to see anyone get sick. I don't want to see anyone suffer.

Is there a chance Wendy fingers that he announces

“that he has an incurable disease that somehow he cares?”

- I think there's a very good chance of that. - Yes. - That'd be a good move. - That would probably help his business that he cares via some proprietary formula that--

- Correct. - YouTube can purchase. - Just saying, I hope that's not the case. I hope he somehow he finds a way to beat this, but I'm just putting my spidey senses up.

That does feel like that's on the table, though. - Now that you say it definitely makes it a lot of sense. - Yeah. - I didn't really think about it like that. - Yeah, so it kind of, kind of tough.

Your stomach has to start eating itself. Maybe you'll meet, maybe some vegetables, and no more blood transfusion with your son. - Also, I don't, like anyone who's like, I'm gonna live forever, like, I don't.

That's the one thing that we all know is the universal truth. - No one does. - Yeah. - And you can't tempt--

- You can't tempt me sometimes. - Sometimes narcissists have a very difficult time coming to terms with that, and so then they would make their entire personality fighting back against.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - You're cool, man. Cool throne?

Guys, you're like, see, fight you. You'll see this weekend? - Yeah. - We'll see this weekend. Let's see if it up to.

A lot of boating, maybe some movies. - You want some foul and I saw that? - Very cool. - Maybe like a movie, Rod House. Rod House, great movie.

I don't, it might have been CGI. I'm not sure how he was that jacked in the movie. He looked huge if you guys saw that movie. - Are you a fan of Conor McGregor? - I'm a fan of Lee athletes,

and he puts on a, sometimes you can put on a good fight. I get it. I always depend. They make a choke out cowboy. That was a good,

that was pretty good fight. That was a flying knee in your mind. I apologize for that. - That's okay. - I'm disappointed.

- You fucked yourself for the Mount Rushmore coming up. He is, he is in hell. No. We're good. (laughing)

Yeah, he's the confidence, he also has to cook his dinner. - I just wanted to bring up the names that did get accepted. - They're very funny. - We're really trying to throw Zach onto the boss,

and I kind of feel bad I did, but the names on that list just made me laugh. What was the rich guy's name again? - Straight to the bank. - Straight to the bank.

- Straight to the bank. - How you doing? - How you doing? How are you feeling? Are you ready for this?

Are you ready for Mount Rushmore? - Always. - Okay. - Okay. - Let's do it.

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Neutrophil.com, promo code PMT. - Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We're doing the Mount Rushmore of aquatic animals, and who has first pick?

“- I went first last time, so I think you do big cat, right?”

- No, no. - Oh, it's Hank.

So you're second P.F.D. worth there.

- Okay. - We're a lot of order 'cause we didn't do Mount Rushmore on Wednesday and Friday, so we've changed the order. - Are you gonna let memes participate today?

- Yeah, what was your problem with that? - I just, I listen to the show. - Yeah, and I've heard a lot of, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. - No, well, do you obviously didn't listen to the show then? - Yeah.

- Yikes. - It was so low. - We literally said before because you weren't around, and Max wasn't around to, to even the playing field, we'd go mono-emano-emano-emano.

So you just didn't listen to the show. And meme said, yeah, that's fine. I'll sit out this one. I just, I was wondering where memes will, as that's all. - Where's memes?

- Where's memes? - Where's memes? - Here, I'm here. - Yeah, memes are sitting right there, and he said, yeah, that's smart idea,

because why would I have a partner and no one else does? He also did say, "Where's Hank?" - So we did, uh, Mount Rushmore of, uh, aquatic animals,

no Googling. - Yep. - No Googling.

“- This one we felt, I think, better than the weapons.”

- No Googling. - Yeah.

- Uh, R-1-1 thought we had the second pick.

We're gonna go with the smartest animal in, in the ocean dolphins. - Okay, kind of interesting. - Zach asked me about where I would put dolphins on my list. I think it's a good pick.

I did say kind of a chick pick. - Mm. - Dolphins are kind of chick animals. - Dolphins are awesome. - Yeah, I love them.

- Dolphins are awesome. - Great, very smart. - I like dolphins. - I like dolphins. - I can only check, like dolphins, just check five.

- I didn't say it. - I like dolphins. - They were on our list. - Great, yeah, I love women. - Women loved dolphins.

- Not the wrong way that. - Traveling packs. - Great hunting techniques. - Yeah. - So when we go over the waves,

there's a surf. - Just be like in sonar. - Yep. - They've saved human's lives. - Yeah.

- Dolphins are sick.

“- Max pulls his visor down over his eyes.”

Max, why are you uncomfortable right now? - Not uncomfortable, I just can't believe. I can't believe Henry Lockwick didn't pick something that I thought was going to get picked. - Okay, okay.

- So I'm up? - Yeah, you're out. - Well, my one one's still on the board. So I'm gonna take it. The great white shark.

- Okay. - Great white shark. - Awesome. - Apex Hydro. - Kind of like, but it's like not they,

like they don't really kill that many people. - Well, they dominate the water. They are the own the water. - So we're gonna go specific. - I'm not gonna say that.

- I'm not gonna say that. - I think, yeah, I think you can. There's not variety in the shark world after that. - Yeah, okay. - All right, then yeah, we'll go specific too.

- Okay, all right. So our first pick is Killer Whale. Love Killer Whales. I learned a fact about Killer Whales. - That's shared on the show.

- But? - Orcas? - Killer Whales. - Killer Whales. I wanted to say Killer Whales.

What's wrong with that? - I thought they don't kill you. - You guys, what on this entire rant? Like, two weeks ago about how they don't kill people. - Yeah, yeah, no, no, they don't kill people.

They kill other animals, got it. - The whole thing is, they don't kill people because they respect the people and they only eat the thing they're supposed to eat. - But they'll fuck up a sea lion, a seal, a salmon,

whatever you want. - What Killer Whales? - Killer Whales are a bunch of Killer Whales that we're trying to fuck up humans, like, tipping their ships over.

- They do kill people when they're captive. - Which actually is the most badass thing you can do. 'Cause they get, they get put in jail and then they're like, fuck this, I'm gonna kill all these fat people in sea worlds.

- It's a great pig, I had that, that was my second. - Killer Whales will be a sling term, or there's synonymous with the Wargo. - What? - What they can be in Wargo?

- That just be like an off-hand, like, way to describe them. - Like, are you asking if they would

- Ah, yes, I think they probably prefer Wargo's,

but, okay, I just hear it. - We're not doing the PC thing. - Yeah, we're not doing it. - Yeah, it's fun names. - Yeah, all right, yeah, all right.

“- But, I'm not the one who said Dolphins were chick picks.”

- I had your back on Dolphs. - I'm just saying, yeah, I gotta take it down. - You're calling 'em killer Whales. - Okay, we can call it Orcas. Or what are you guys wanna do for the next pick?

Did I, do you like what I said? - I'm good with, I'm good with, - What are you saying? - Either of those. - What would you say?

- Okay, just, yeah, corner the mark. - Okay, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, it's the biggest thing in the ocean, the blue whale. - It's fucking massive. - Hoss, it's a absolute beast.

- Great pack. - It's good pack, yeah. - Thank you, good pack. - Love blue whales. - It's pretty good pick.

- I do, I love blue whales. - Clean the whales. - Clean 'em. - Okay.

- PFT, okay, I'm going to go, my second pick.

I'm gonna go with hippos. - Hmm. - We had our last passive. - Yep, maybe the most deadly animal on this list. - hippos don't swim.

- That counts, but I'm just saying hippos don't swim. - They run around a lot. - They run around a lot. - Yeah, I'm just saying that's a fun fact. - That's how they swim.

- It's just a fun fact to say. - Yep, hippos don't swim. - They don't, they actually don't know how to swim.

“- Yeah, that's how, that's how Lero uses.”

- They run on the bottom of the water. - He would run with his hind legs on the bottom and then he'd take his front paws and act like he was swimming. - Yeah, no idea.

- I feel like when you have young kids, you just learn fun stuff. - Oh, yeah. - It's about animals. - Yeah, like no one else.

- Watch it live. I went to the Lincoln Park Zoo. I watched the hippo just fucking walking on the bottom. - hippos are like the most crazy. - Chill looking animal that actually will fuck you up.

- Oh, yeah. - You've ever seen him eat like whole watermelons on the ones, that's just awesome. - Yeah. - Slow-mo when they crush them.

- Yeah, that can be your skull. - Oh, yeah. - Also, I think Moodang counts under this pick too. - It's a big, me hippo. - Yeah, I don't know.

- Yeah, happy birthday, by the way, Moodang. - Okay, you guys have two. We would like to go with nothing. - We'd like to go Giant Squid. - Okay.

- Okay, yeah, good pick. - That's a dude pick. - Bad ass. - It's bad ass pick. - It's bad ass pick.

- And then we will go with the bluefin tuna. - Okay. - Okay. - It's like, delicious. - Hey, it's great.

- Yeah, it's great. - It's great. - The coolest thing to catch if you're a fisherman, like that, that a bluefin tuna is like, you're, you know. - Mm-hmm.

- That's what you want to catch. - A greedy fish. - Trophy fish. - Yeah. - Good picks.

- Good picks. - Really enjoyed those. - Same. - All right, my next pick, I'm gonna go with Crocodile. - Okay, we had it on our list.

- Here you go. - Have you ever heard the story of Gus? I think the Crocodile's name was Gus. The killer crock from, I wanna say, Congo. Guess how many people Gus the Crocodile

has killed and eaten in his life? - Gustave. - Is this name?

- Seven point five million.

- It's one Crocodile. - Yeah. - It's not, no, that's not, that's not close. - Okay. - 300 people.

- Oh, that's way less than I thought. - Yeah, but this one fucking Gus is-- - A lot of people.

“- I think it's the animal that's got the most,”

the most confirmed kills of any animal for an individual. And he's 71 years old right now. - Okay, Gus, Gus. All right, we have our last two picks. The first one we know, we're gonna go hammer head shark.

- Yeah. - Love a hammer head shark. It looks so fucking cool. And also, the only shark that I feel confident I could fuck up by just punching it right in the middle

of the nose. - Hammerheads have a bad marketing. I feel like they were hot when we were kids. And you don't hear so much about hammerheads. - They just look like they're awesome aliens.

- Yeah. - If you like, see a hammerhead at an aquarium. - Yeah. - Looks cool. - It's a show stopper.

- It's a panty dropper. - Yeah. - Big time. All right, boys, we gotta figure out our last one. I don't know what to do.

- I like nine. - I was gonna say nine. Do you wanna go with nine? - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - Max, no? - No, yeah? - No? - Yeah, yeah.

- All right, we're gonna go with the octopus. The octopus. I like the octopus. Guys, the fucking weirdo out in the ocean. - Yeah.

- Smart, it's very smart. - I saw that documentary, the octopus teacher. - Yeah. - And I, I still eat calamari, but I feel bad now, whatever I eat it.

- The, our good friend Nick Turany has made the, the case that the octopus has the worst PR of any animals out there because they're just should be, they should be kids favorite animal more often. - Yeah.

- 'Cause they are like weird and interesting and smart, but, you know, kids don't fall in the octopus. - Yeah, they don't. - Okay. - It's hard to say.

- Yeah. - And then you can say Octopi.

- Yeah.

- All right, okay, good pick.

- Thanks. - Can play y'all. - Good play y'all. - My last pick, this is gonna be the one that might win it or lose it for me.

- I love this, I'm excited. I'm excited. - Mermaids. - Mermaids. - Okay.

- They got the rack, they got the rack. - You're just, you're just taking a tits. - I'm thinking of tits. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're like, how could I get tits in this?

- It's not right. - It's a Portuguese and pick, yes for sure. But just like, a chick that's part-fish, part chick. - Mermaids aren't real. - It's all right.

- It's all right with that. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry with mermaids. - Okay. - Yeah, all right. - Wow.

- And we also don't know that. - Yeah. - We haven't explored so much of these. - How would that add a tits, I mean? - The O she needs something to eat.

- That's something to eat. - Tickets are gonna be mermaid with big tits, though. (laughing) - There we go. Okay.

- We got the clams, the clams. - The clams. - It's like a hot chick in the water. Hot chick in the shower. - Ford pick, we would like to take alligator.

- Okay. - All right. - Good pick. - Good pick. - So the one that we were gonna take that was gonna be adjacent

to mermaid was, and I don't know if it would have worked. SpongeBob. - Yeah. - He does live under the ocean. - The pick.

- Yep, that's what I think. - I don't know. - We kept it in the middle. - We kept it in the middle of fairway. - No one mentioned beavers or otters?

- Or turtles. - Turtles. - Turtles? - That's what I thought. - Big misses, turtles, seals.

“- He's gonna be pissed about turtles, I think.”

- We had a discussion in the car about penguins that would they have passed, probably not. - What a polar bear. - Would that have been way, yeah. - See, that's where the penguins, yeah, polar bear.

- I think I would have allowed a penguin, I think. - And polar bears and hippos like. - Hippos now.

- Hippos are basically underwater for most of their day.

- Yeah. - Blobster, King Crab. - The last King Crab we had high up, swordfish. - Swordfish? - What about Marlin?

- Yeah. - We had Marlin then swordfish was kind of, we were thinking trophy fish. - Yeah, Marlin's a trophy fish. - Marlin's like the number one trophy fish.

- Heck she's hungry. - I had, I had Marlin like every meal in St. Martin moves so good. - Yeah. - Stingray. - Yep.

- Red snappa. - King Crab on your fish. - Clownfish, pufferfish, seahorse. - I had seahorse on my own every salmon. - Isn't every seahorse female?

- No, I think it's the main carry the babies though. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay, yeah. - What about Anaconda?

- Anaconda, I thought about that one. - I don't know if that's fully, this is a pulse call. - I think that would work. - I think that would play.

- Yeah, those things are fucking terrifying.

“Like that's a scary thing on the planet, I think.”

Just from watching that movie when I was a kid, but. - What about Parana? - Parana Barracuda. - You're Barracuda.

- He's all Barracuda. - Yeah, I'm scary. It was, I like that said that. - It's got a chef donny when try-- - Barracuda is so scary.

- The chef donny literally, I swear to God, he went and tried to play with this Barracuda. - Barracuda is so scary. - Goldfish? - Yeah, goldfish.

- Goldfish. - Goldfish, goldfish. - Oh, oh, picking Larry there, and a great panda big miss, Larry. - Oh, that would have been a great panda big.

- There's such idiots. - Holy fuck. Wow. - I'm actually happy that we all fuck that up. - Yeah, that sucks.

- 'Cause that would have been. - Oh, Paul the octopus. - What do you guys think about, uh, normals? - They don't really understand 'em. - Yeah, they seem like they're fake, but they're real.

- Bulugas? - Those are, are those just small whales? - I mean, we picked different types of whales. - No, I just didn't know what it would be. I'm not sure what a bulugas is.

- Yeah, they're Bulugas. - Hump back whales. I love watching them jump out of the water. I think Hank probably does too. - Yep, big time.

- Yeah. Why don't you pick it? - Uh, we were gonna try and get orcas.

“Oh, that's why you were getting mad at me.”

- You thought Orcas was gonna last all the way back?

- We thought we had the second pick.

- Oh, you thought dolphin was gonna go one one? - Shark? - Yeah, yeah. - Two great white sharks got a whole-- - Great white shark was the clear sea one one.

- Yeah, we did those have a whole week. - That is good pig. - Mm-hmm. - Michael fell so it would've been a good pig. - Oh, they just thought of it.

- Michael fell so it would've been a great pig. So you wanted to, it should say Orca for us? - Well, it's the animal, yeah. - Okay, can you take Orca? - Yeah, that's fine.

- Yeah, she's better for us, 'cause we don't want too much. - That's why I was packed back. - So it's better. - Orca blue, yeah. - Yeah, blue, 'cause if it says killer whales, blue whales,

we're like, oh, dude, you just took too many whales. - How do we think everyone did there? - I was shocked by dolphin going one one. I was shocked. - We thought we were gonna go, we thought we were gonna go.

- We thought we were gonna go dolphin at three. - I thought we thought it was, we were fighting about what we were gonna do at three, 'cause it was gonna go. - Yeah, we were like shark orca.

- Oh, good. - Hey, where means I or might not be the best or a shark. - It's a hate. - Long season, we were talking about it already, there's like 20 more of these left.

- I think we took a different approach for most of the pigs of like attributes.

I was just kidding. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you just ate so much fish this fast week. So you were just thinking about the fish that you ate. - I ate a lot of fish and my friends

like caught a big tuna last week, and it looked off. - Yeah, 'cause I was just saying when you said tuna, we were thinking trophy fish, but you didn't think Marlon. - At one point our list was going like ceviche, and then what is the, how Marry came up?

- Marlon, have you already? - Yeah, we're a little hungry. - Yeah, this is Hakes Quillan of going shopping at the grocery store. - Probably in dinner. - Yeah, yeah. - Pass would have been good.

Oh, what about a stripe husky? - Sturgeon, Sturgeon, yeah. - Sturgeon, prehistoric, can I eat grouper? - Yeah, Sturgeon, that was the one.

- I was trying to think of a third of all.

- Sturgeon, can you please? - Sturgeon, can you please? - Sturgeon, can you please? - Yeah, no, can you please? - What about the one that lives at the bottom

that's got the light? - Like, it lowers you in with a little thing. - I don't know what that is 'cause we didn't have Google. - Yeah. - I know what it is.

- Is it lanternfish, is that what you said? - Anglerfish. - Anglerfish, okay. - Oh yeah, what about like sea slugs at the way way bottom? - Sea cucumber.

- That should it's crazy. - Penfish? - Yeah. - What about sea onion, Shane? - All the rich people on the Titanic?

- Oh yeah.

“- Osama bin Laden, you should have picked that hank.”

- Shout out. - Shout out. (laughing) - Why didn't you shout out of how to get? - Shout out.

- Oh, because I think I said that because of 9/11. - So much time for it. - That's what you made. - Yeah, the Patriots, the NFL canceled a week. And then the next week they came back.

Drew Bloods so got knocked out. (screaming) - Brady came in. Shout out. - Shout out.

There you go. - Oh man, okay. We got great interview with the Chuck Brothers, then Taylor Twllman talking some more soccer. And then we're gonna finish with guys on chill.

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We are live from the American Century Championship in Tahoe. It is the Kachak brothers. Matthew Brady, teammates. Let's start with it.

I wanna talk about your golf game 'cause I actually have a question that you guys aren't gonna like about your golf game, but let's start with teammates on the Florida Panthers. Has it fully set in yet?

And like, what's the vibe?

“Are you guys, like, this is the coolest thing ever?”

- Well, we go. - Yeah, the new team. - Yeah, for me, it hasn't sunk in yet. I get just still so surreal. I mean, there's been a couple times

where we're at the rank. When we went down there right after the trade and it's like Holy Calas is gonna be every day for six months and we're figuring out

when our first fight's gonna be.

So I think it's after we're gonna have it around mid camp. - Sush, but no, we're, I mean, it's crazy. We're gonna live now three minutes away from each other. And I don't even think it's gonna hit until the first game of the year.

- Yeah. - Like, wow, this is real life. - Yeah, are you, so Matthew, because you obviously, you know, you won cups with the Panthers,

you're one of the vets on the team, are you gonna be able to yell at your brother when he fucks up? Like, are you gonna... - Yeah, nobody's safe on that team.

- You can't. - And like, you can't even make a play and poker and not get churped on this team. - So, okay. - There's nobody off limits.

- It is crazy though, like, Brady's 20... We're trying to 26 and year nine, 'cause I'm in year 11. And he's the second youngest guy on the team. - That's not so. - So, it's a very, like, the core of the team

“is all from 20, I think, Anton Lundell's 24,”

and then to 30 or 31. So, everybody on the team's pretty much in that age range without, you know, a couple older guys. So, I think he's gonna fit in perfectly.

And even just, like, being in Florida years past, like, getting to know some of the guys, like, it's full like he's been around enough where the camaraderie part and the getting to know guys. Like, that's gonna be so easy,

where for most guys, that's a hard thing to do, coming to a new team. - Right. - So, we flew down, he got trade on Sunday,

And we went down Monday, got him helped with all the house

and my wife helped his wife out with that. And then brought him to the room, he's gonna introduce him to everybody, and just fit, like, perfectly. - Are you gonna haze him?

“- Ah, you have to haze him. - You're already not passing the test.”

- No, you're going softer. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I just don't wanna see this. - I just don't wanna tell him what we're doing. - Okay. - He doesn't know, like, the pranks we pull in this locker, I'm like, nobody's safe at all.

So he'll get it out of the gates, I just can't give away my secrets, but. - I'm in my car keys. - That's the one thing. - Yeah, I'm in my car keys. - Oh, no, actually, that's like a nice prank. - Yeah, if we move your car, that's like a prank.

- Yeah, you should just have your dad be like, I don't love you, Brady. - Ah, gotcha. - Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. - You're now, come to the first game on a 19 jersey. - Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. - Is it true to the rumor

that you forced your way to the Panthers to improve the podcast? (laughing) - Yeah, no, there's been a lot of things out there, that a lot of people have fabricated, but, you know what? (laughing)

- That's a part of it, so that's a part of it. - If a podcast is gonna be better, like, when you're faced to face, it's, oh, it's gonna be so much better. - Yeah, it's gonna be, we're actually talking about how we're gonna do it.

So it's, I ain't everybody's pretty happy with it. - Do you know who is the first guy actually we talked to or I talked to? That said, we should do a podcast, like, probably three years ago, was my GM, Bill Zito.

- No way! - It's like, you guys, I gotta do this. Like, it would be genius idea, like, you guys would crush

it everybody in hockey that's never been done.

People would listen to it, and then I talked to them, like, a couple weeks ago when you were in Florida, and he's like, yeah, me and my wife, his wife, Julie, we're talking about it, and thought it'd be a great idea. - Mm-hmm.

- Yeah. - So we-- - Yeah. - That's pretty cool, you have the blessing of the GM. - Oh, yeah, he's like the most on board. He was the guy who told us we should have started.

- Well, it's good for hockey. Like, it's not, I mean, there's, you know, some, some, I would say there's some people who play sports that maybe they shouldn't be as live as possible. Like, I think, like, maybe Jalen Brown

or Mike O'Person's going live on Twitch right after a game, sometimes get him in trouble, but podcasting, like, for hockey, you grow the sport. - Yeah, and we just like, tell all of our listeners have talked about or like, send to us,

like in person, stuff they love the behind-the-scenes stories of what's actually happening right now with current players. Like, it's one thing for a former player to talk about, like, you know, in my day, this is what happened, but for them to hear like current events,

type of stories, like, they love it. So we got a lot more where that came from, and a lot more good ones with us playing together now. - Just kind of shit on spit and check, let's do that's fine.

- I actually have a question. - You love those guys. - Okay, I wish they had it when they were playing. - Okay, have millions of unwield stories. - You love 'em.

- You love 'em because I might have texted a couple of guys being like, hey, the Chuck Brothers are coming by. Got any questions in the only question that I got out of, it was, why are you dodging them on sandbaggers? - Oh my God, this is a painful, almost like five.

- I don't know about that, he's saying that you guys were dodging them for the sandbaggers. - We might have dodged them once. - Yeah, we did dodging once. (laughing)

- My game was at, I don't want it embarrass myself. - Oh, I think a good sandbagger, though, would be this year in Florida. - Yeah. - We can go to Yann's, of course.

It's right there in jail. - And we'll take it out of your team. - We'll do, you need dad versus those three. - I mean, we've played enough for Yann's. Yann's a great player, which obviously is really good.

- Yeah. - And this scares me. I've heard that he says he's not good, but he actually is really good. - You can't be good, yeah.

- Well, we'll link up it. If it doesn't happen this year with me and him being on the same team, my dad being in April is done. We got big issue.

- Yeah, how much of a partying at 11 was a driving factor and you wanting to play in theater? (laughing) I feel like I would just want to stay there.

- Actually, never been to 11 as well.

(laughing) - There's no footage of me being there, but that was an incredible night. - Yeah, I mean, it's just, I feel like we're the one people there.

It was incredible.

“- Yeah, but I heard that's why it's great.”

- We're glad to see that. - That's it. Well, now that he saw that after one championship with the Olympics, that's where we go. When we won the Stanley Cup, so.

- Yeah. - It's a little bit of motivation to win it again and go back to for Crazy Party. - Hell yeah. - When was the last time you guys got to a fight?

Like a physical fight? - Probably, I don't know if we haven't thrown punches and, you know, since we've been kids, but three years ago. - But the biggest rest of the weekend.

(laughing) - That's the answer. - I thought the biggest wrestling match we've been in. I can remember it was three years ago. It was, he was playing like, be a pro-mode and NFL.

And I'm like, let me just do one play. He was a quarterback and I throw like, obviously I held Mary. I get hit as I'm throwing, pick six the other way and he goes, we're going right now.

- He was, I don't know. - And you're only pissed off. - I have no idea why I was so mad at him, but I was so nervous. - We don't take.

- I was just putting such a good shift. - That's so perfect. - So wait, who won?

“- I think you probably, it's like the same old story”

the last bunch of years. You win like 90% but I make your tap out of it. - Yeah, I don't have the killer in sync with him for some reason, but, yeah, win 90%. Maybe fatigue gets in there.

- Yeah, I was just gonna finish it.

- Yeah, I need to hop on the bike. - Yeah. All right, so golf game.

Brady, this is your first time here, right?

- Yep.

“- Matt, do you, how many times do you play just three, three?”

Brady, are you thinking about how many patrons you're going to maybe hit? - I saw what I did a pre-scout. Everybody does pre-scout of the holes and the hole locations.

I'm pre-scouting the ropes. - Yeah. - I'm with where in my shots. - Yeah. - I could potentially hit 'em.

So I expect a little bit narrower. So now that it's, oh, there's going to be a couple. - There's going to be a couple of fours. - A couple of taggies, a couple of rickflares. - Yeah.

- We'll see. - We'll see. - I've taken my, taking the over. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- I don't know. - It's a crazy part of the sermon. There's, you know, a lot of guys that, you know, they might consider themselves to be decent golfers, but when we play on the weekends,

if there was a gallery on every hole, people would be dying, left and right. So yeah, you gotta, you gotta have somebody watching or like a designated four person. - Yeah, they would treat it though, like it's the masters.

- Right. - They're, they're right there. - Yeah. - So for getting it's mostly, I mean, for me, amateur golfer, but I have no idea

very much of it. - Yeah. - I mean, there are sticks. - Yeah. - But do you normally shoot?

- Yeah, we play with Marty today. Marty's got one. - Marty fishes and Krutt. - And Krutt, they are both awesome. - Yeah.

- Awesome. So like they're safe around those guys, but that's one of those. I'd say my game, I'd be happy in the mid '80s. - Okay.

- Okay. - So yeah, that's a lot of people you're gonna hit. - Yeah, oh, yeah, that's the way around, yeah, yeah.

“I think the overunders probably nine and a half”

for the weekend for you. - Yeah. - What did you finish the last few years? - I think around 30, I would have to. - That's good.

- So, try to get in the top third, but there's no excuses here. I mean, we kind of fumbled this year and so I've had two months to play golf, so I hope you can be a little bit better.

- Was it weird watching the playoffs for the first time in a long time? - Yeah, and a bunch of guys on my team, like we were actually talking before the playoffs, like, are you gonna watch, like, no, like,

it's gonna piss me off too much. Like, I love it so much and it's really motivating too. I think even just watching it and being in your summer training and the dog days and you're like, we should be out there, like, then you do an extra rep

the next day and be like, "I've forgotten back there next year." So I love watching it, but it was a little still frustrating knowing that we had a good team when we had a chance to do what it got in, but more motivation for next year and we needed to get him and get us over the top hopefully.

- I think it's not your team anymore. - It's hard to. - Yeah, it's true, yeah, it's true. - Yeah, it's a good team. - Still feels crazy, Santa.

- Yeah, like, he called me on a free agent, what's it, free agent, friendsy? - Yeah, I think it's called. And, like, it's cool to talk about, like, our team now. Like, it's not like, "Hey, what do you guys think you're doing?"

Like, "Oh, what about you?" It's like, we're just talking about one team and I know all of our family and all of our friends are super jacked up to have one team to launch. - Yeah, so how close was it to somewhere else?

Do you know, like, was it between a couple teams and you're like, "Oh, shit, this could go either, right?" - Yeah, it was, it was a couple teams in the mix there.

And, I mean, of course, it was always enticing

and just with him and with their team just being around, just seeing the professionals and that they have Dan Dale and it's all about winning. So, I mean, there's a good process, there's, you know, there's a very unique process, but you know,

it was fun going through that and that ended up in Florida was pretty special. - I had no idea. Like, we were in the member guests in St. Louis at my course there and he was on the phone a little bit

on the Saturday and I'm like, that's weird. Like, he just leaving me for a hole. I gotta play this by myself. Like, there's no phone calls. That important to member guests.

“Like, this is the most important thing in the world right now.”

And so I knew something like was maybe happening and had no idea about Florida. Like, seriously, no idea. And we're at our parents house the next day, getting ready for a little gold medal party.

We're gonna have that night with all our family and friends and he gets, say, no, you've got to call, but you didn't have your phone. - So for Saturday, I was told to, you know, things are happening fast

so be by your phone. Saturday, nothing happened, Sunday, all day.

I'm just like, it was always right on my lap.

Five minutes for family pictures. I didn't have it. That's when I'd have it. - Of course. - And then the other grandpa who's sitting there

and he's like, huh, this is interesting. Like, he's on his apple watch. Like, oh, I just saw a tweet from, no, Emily Kaplan, Pierre Lebron, like, ready? You just got traded in a Florida.

(laughing) I was like, what? Like, immediately ran into my phone and had like five missed calls. I was like, holy shit.

- That's what I was crazy. - Yeah, how much insight did you have during that process in terms of like, which teams it could possibly be? No, for me, it's, no, without what I had,

and no move calls. So, you know, I was fortunate that, you know, for the teams, it was kind of up to me what your teams were included. And, you know, for me, I included, you know,

four teams and, so I was just talk with them throughout this, you know, on video calls,

the GM's coaches.

So, that when it comes down to my position,

I had the final say of, you know, yes or no. So, but I think towards that last day, it was just happening fast for all the teams involved and then got a phone call that, and I was happy with Florida, and it was kind of

a no-brander there. - Are the four teams public? - Can we guess? You have to tell us if we get it right. - Okay, so Florida, I know he's not going to.

- Yeah, I know. - Nobody knows. - Everybody thinks they know, but nobody speculating. - All right. - Unfortunately, I was hanging with you guys this morning

at the coffee shop, so Vegas, I know, for sure. - Could you guys told me that?

“- I think that might have been me actually.”

(laughing) - Yeah, that wasn't down there yet, that wasn't down there yet. - All right, so we have two of the four. - Yeah. - Was your cargo on there?

- Okay, Colorado, and it's got to be no school. - I won't go. - I won't go.

- It's not, it's not, it's not.

- All right. - Say that. - Oh, sharks, as you go on, but Dallas, wow. - Okay. - So now it--

- I wasn't like-- - You know, it was just like-- - Oh, you could say-- - Oh, okay. - It wasn't responding.

- Okay. - Podcasts should-- - We're going to get it out of you after the kids or turn around the British kiss. - Yeah, yeah.

- On your next one, yeah. - One thing you won't say about yourselves, I'll brag on you guys. You guys are heroes, you saved a life today. You don't know that we know that,

but we were driving back to the hotel. I accidentally stole a car this morning, so I was driving back to drop it off at the front desk. And there was a lady that was pulling around a corner with the flatest tire that you've ever seen in your life.

Her wheel was pretty much falling off the car. She had no idea, and you guys were just yelling at her, be like, hey, hey, pull over. If you offered to help change the tire-- - So, it's a press time up.

- Okay. - Not both heroes. He immediately just teed off on the back stall. - Okay. - It's handled over there.

- Oh, and I saw it. I don't think she had any idea. - No idea. - It was the loudest noise I ever heard. - We were like, rolled down the window,

like your front tire pops, and what? And stepped out, and she's like, already on the phone. She's just on it, and I was like, it's just a tough bounce. - Yeah.

- She was willing to drive back to Reno. - She was driving back to Reno. - She was driving back to Reno. - Yeah, I think it was back to Reno. - I think it was back to Reno.

- 500 feet away. - We saw memes, or guy memes, is like, hmm, that's pretty, you can catch up. - But it was funny 'cause it was like, everybody like to help on her, trying to guide her,

and math, the opposite. We just hear the team shot. - Yeah, nothing to do with that. - Yeah, well, you've got to handle it. - There was so many like cooks in the kitchen too,

like I didn't want to be another,

annoying by the hell here's what you do.

- Yeah, they were here. - You Marty, everybody handled it great. - So, last time we had you guys on, you guys said you were gonna do a team USA meetup over the summer, so have you scheduled it?

Like, I know obviously you were probably talking to Quinn Hughes when you maybe were gonna go to Minnesota 'cause I was one of the 14's. (laughing) - So, Quinn asked you to do that.

“- That's what you say that 'cause Quinn,”

in the summer in Jersey, he actually moved him and Jack, and moved three doors down for me for the month of June. And when those guys are complete like this, it was fun to see them, see them buzzin' around, but no, there's some good sauna sessions,

just chatting it up, and seeing what he was thinking, stuff like that, but they're the best. We had so much time together, and just great guys. - There's been a lot of opportunities too, like I know a few guys went to DC for the fourth,

a bunch of guys, a bunch of us are going to SP's on Wednesday, like next week. - Oh, nice. - Bold is gonna be here this week, Matt Boldy. So like this, and he's gonna have a chance,

I guess he's a really good player, so he might have a chance this weekend, but we've, the group chat is alive and well, like we've done a great job of keeping, not even keeping in touch just like constant communication,

and just having, I don't know, like all it takes is one person to have a memory. - Yeah. - And like see something, or have a picture, or like find picture of the day,

or something, they'll send it in, and I'm the group check. It's going for a while, it's, I'm telling you, like collectively the best group of guys ever. - So all like mind did, like all played together, at one point, like very, very similar personalities,

and it was just a blast, and that group's, that's a tough group to beat personality was. - Who's the one guy on the group chat that has not been pulling their way? There's always one.

We call 'em all right now.

“- Oh, I think, and now there's got to be one guy”

who's gone silent for a while. - I'm an Alchirm 'cause he's my boy, Sandy. Sandy won some Alchirm throwing like a lacquer. - Yeah, but he's not doing, he's not adding anything. - Yeah, he's just doing the thumbs up.

- He's just pumping iron. (laughing) - It's hard to get an award though. - Yeah, it's hard to get an award though. - Yeah, it's hard to get an award.

- It's hard to get an award. - I mean, Millie, Trox, Trox, Trox, Charlie, Austin,

- Yeah.

- It's, I mean, I guess it's easier to hide,

but everybody's very active in those. - So this is kind of a dumb, maybe a bad question, but obviously we're all Americans. We were rooting for Team USA in the World Cup, but is there a small party that's like,

yeah, they couldn't do the thing we could do? - Not at all. - I don't know. - I don't know. - Definitely think that.

- Yeah, yeah, we did it, you didn't. - No, it's, I mean, it's just incredible on that stage. I mean, it was an unfortunate last game, but just to see how unified the country was watching them

was just so awesome, you know, part of them, kind of brought us back to... - Yeah, remind us. - Yeah, remind us a lot of that. I mean, I'm sure not a ton of people were watching

the Olympics compared to the end when we were there. And just like, each game was like, each game at US one, it was like, double the viewers for the next one, and that's kind of how we felt going back to Milan, but it's amazing what the World Stage

and plan for your country will do for the whole country, and having success and just, I keep going back

to like, it's amazing how that was the first Olympics

that NHL players were in since 2014. Like, what a shame, like, 12 games not having that, like, it's so unfortunate, but, I mean, I guess it was worth the wait for. - They fixed these, yeah.

“- Do you guys have any advice for the US soccer team?”

How to be a better American sports team? - I love those guys. I was such a super fan, I was kind of a bandwagon fan 'cause I'm not a huge soccer guy, but, I'm a fan, I don't know, I don't know.

- I know, I know, like, I'm a really, really fan. - I'm a little bit upset with a team. - This is like my view watching them because I was watching the England Mexico game, the game before.

I couldn't believe how big England's midfielders and defense were, so maybe just get bigger. - Get bigger, get bigger, get stronger. - Yeah, get your weight up. - But they're great in having it in the US was so cool.

Like, I mean, my friends in St. Louis, like, for the three or four games prior, like, we would always go somewhere to watch and just like, out of, I know the last game was not ideal, but that in itself was a win for the rest of the country,

just how important it was for all of us to watch and support, I guess. - Yeah, and then a spin zone is that with the whole balligan red card, you guys are kind of like a distant memory with, you know, Team USA getting involved in politics.

- That's good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - They cut all the heat off you guys. - Yeah, yeah.

- Nobody, I feel like everyone, if he wouldn't have came back, it would have been controversy, he came back, I mean. - Yeah. - That's just, I guess that's sometimes just sports. It's all good.

- Yeah, I'm glad that we can move on from, like, getting, like, people asking you guys questions about, why did you pick up a phone call? (laughs) Like, that was, that was a stupidest news like,

like, lover, yeah, yeah. But yeah, we loved watching the Olympics this year.

“The four nations are we doing that again this year?”

- World cups in 28. - So it's like, every two years they have it. - Have a unique thing that they're doing at the All-Story in this year. - What is that?

- Three-and-three tournament for, like, US Canada, Finland, Sweden, under, was it under 23? - Yeah, I just, like, the All-Story game in the hockey, like, the traditional one, like, the three-and-three in the skills, like, I mean, it wasn't doing that well.

Like, it was hard-watch, I think. And then we did the four nations and then the Olympics. So I think they're kind of round around that. I told, I think we were talking about it on the R pod, not too long ago.

Just bring all the guys that played, like, the six forwards, the three-D and Halley. It's just, make that, the team USA for... - I'd be more, I'd be more happy to spend my break sitting on the bench and watching them.

- Yeah, without a doubt. - Wait, so speaking to your pod, Wingmen, go, go, subscribe. Do you guys, now that you guys have been doing it for what? Almost a year, right?

Almost a year. Almost a year. Do you have any newfound respect for us? You wanna compliment? - Yes.

- Yeah, it was, we were on 10 years. - Yeah, we talked about it this morning. - Yeah. - Probably the hardest thing in the podcast world is scheduling, and just like figuring out,

“that's why I'm very happy he's in Florida,”

not on a team on the West Coast, because that would have been a nightmare. - Vegas. - Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. - That's what I'm talking about.

I did survive, but I'm just happy he's in Florida. - Yeah, yeah, I did survive, but I'm just happy he's in Florida. - Yeah, he's just a bit of talking about that. - Yeah, very, very much appreciation, and you guys are obviously so good at, like,

and when you're not to say that,

with different guests, you could always have,

you always have certain questions, right? And then it's like what you can do, like, off the cuff, and like, if you don't wanna go too far, one way and then not talk about what you gotta talk about. - Right.

- So definitely a lot of respect for the podcast world, especially you boys. - We did run into, I think we're in minute 90 with Bellachek, and we had an asked him a single question about Tom Brady.

- Yeah, I figured out. - If he kept was like, "Oh yeah, let's, yeah, "Tom Brady's pretty good, right?" (laughing) - He's like, "All right, it'll be so great."

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, so for you, Matthew, what? Actually, I saw Zach showed us to be before we sat down. You went up in an F-16? - I did. - How awesome was that?

- In the same. - Was it crazy when they pulled him, like,

- Yeah. - Just seen that. - It looked real good. - Where were you? - And, and I'm quite, yeah.

- I'm quite an Ottawa. - Canada. - Yeah. - They don't have F-16s, yeah. - They have the F-18s, not quite as good.

- Well, the HG. - It was, it was, it was the authority though. - Amazing though. - We pulled nine and a half G's for a few seconds, but the hardest one that I did was, like,

seven and a half. For probably wrath, the guy flying me complete legend. I think he said it was like 15 to 20 seconds. And by the end of it, my circle was like this. And I was seeing light out of this.

Everything else was dark. I was like a breath or two away from just passing out. - Oh, there's shit.

- I never, never felt like I had a puke,

except for when he let me fly it. And of course, I'm just like turning it. - Nine o'clock, and we're just doing barrel moves. - It's got my, whoa, okay. - Wait, you said you want to take the sticks?

- No, he just said plans yours. See that thing there? Do whatever you want with that, so immediately I'm like back on it. - Do you think he was just like letting you do it? And he was actually like when you hand a kid

and unplugged control. - Yeah, exactly. (laughing) - Yeah, I don't matter, you're really good. - Yeah, I was not very good.

“So I think that's why I definitely knew I was flying,”

but that was being controlled that plane over the water. I mean, so high up, but like you're looking down, it's the ocean. It was a little intimidating, but time of my life, I would love to do it.

- You're trying to re-enact. - Talk on maverick. - Without it, yeah. I'm like breathing like the F-16 breath when it wasn't didn't even need to.

- Yeah, start talking like pilot? - Yeah, we're gonna be out of the water, just-- - Those guys are unreal though. Like the Thunderbirds, they are top notch at what they do.

It's amazing, like we were, I flew on Friday with them

as they were doing their test run for the air show the next day. And their wings are like this far away from each other and certain maneuvers. It's unreal, not a lot of credit.

- Brady, did you think you're getting a video when you go back to Ottawa? Are you thinking about boot? - I think I'm for sure gonna get boot. - Yeah, you're gonna get a video though, or no?

- I don't know, we'll see. We'll see, I don't know, we'll see, I don't know. - Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I feel like-- - Are you like thinking about that?

- I feel like they give videos to guys that have been like places for like a year now. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, I would think they would not sure. I don't know what's gonna happen, but, yeah,

hopefully I heard some rumblings that it's early on in the season, so. - Oh, nice, that'd be fun to get back, man. - Yeah, also does it make you not feel better, but like, you guys lost the hurricanes,

hurricanes were just dominant. I mean, were they just as good as we watch where it's just like, it's just so hard to beat them? - Yeah, I mean, I think what they did so all was just didn't give you any ideas, they suffocated you.

“And that's how I felt all serious, like,”

tried doing whatever, just they gave you no room to do it. And yeah, I mean, just sucks getting swaps, like just--

I mean, everybody can always say you played better than that,

but then they got swaps, and no, I know for myself wasn't good enough, so that was first time of tough build as well. - Yeah, I got a really dumb question for you guys. When you were little, how long did it take you

to spell your name? It feels like something that a kid might not easily pick up on. - Yeah. - That's a great question. - Thank you.

- I talked way earlier than Brady Brady was like, a really amazing language. - I'm telling my language. - Wait, really? - Yeah, it's just how late.

- I was speaking gibberish. (laughing) - It's still 20 seconds. (laughing) - Did you have a name for your language?

(laughing) - No. - So did you ever add-- - Did I came up with it 'cause my son's like that now? - Yeah.

- He's like, just turned into, but he speaks his own language, but I don't want to get into it. - Wait, is your dad, did you ever like, do you parents ever take you to like the doctor and be in like this?

- I went to a speech, was a therapist. - There was a person. - And I couldn't get my asses, right? I was like,

that's normal. - That's normal. - Family sprinkler. So I got all dialed in. (laughing)

- Well, is that? - Yeah, I still can't spell your guys. - Yeah, I just throw a bunch of them. - Just tease her. - There's no teeth.

- I just told you, don't even look at the teeth. I just literally, when I spell it, I just throw a bunch of K's, C's and H's. (laughing) Just like somewhere in there, it's gonna make sense.

(laughing) - Yeah, we got Zach's access to that. - Zach's an answer to the rollback question. RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off first purchase, Q's, ifs, poll, so these joggers shorts, rollback.com.

Also, thank you to Matthew and Brady, because they did this on short notice. We were just, they were actually having a nice lunch. - It was like, hey, can you just don't put lunch? - Yeah, lunch, yeah.

“- Come on, so all time guys, all right, Zach, you ready?”

- You're certain, Jim, I think every time today, did have a quick question. Matthew, Matthew, do you hear recently when I'm back to back, stay on the cops with the Panthers? And then Brady, you come in down to Florida.

That kind of brings you guys the ultimate team, came to sure you could have been brothers. Somewhere speculated, you guys could be in like, guaranteed championship territory, and I would just curious, if you felt the same,

(laughing) - Nothing is ever guaranteed and our team did not have our best year last year at all, and for us to have a chance to get at the top of the mountain, we needed to get somebody like him.

So we are a better team now than we were at the end of the season, so all you can ask for is a chance. And I think we got a chance. - Brady, you should guarantee it. Really like, make yourself feel at home.

- There's been a challenge for our team in our last year.

“- So, I need to go a couple weeks, so that's why we're saying.”

- Well, you got another question. - Yeah, quick follow up. I know you guys make your careers out on the ice. We are here at beautiful Lake Tahoe this weekend. If it's one V1 head-to-head,

we're pivoting the ice melts, swim race, who's crossing the finish line first. - Wow. I think depending on the length of it, our short distance, I get them,

and that he's just, his cardio is perfect. - That's a lot of effort. - That's a lot of effort. - So I think I got him. - Yeah, you got me a long distance.

(laughing) - Pulled my load early. (laughing) - What's gonna happen now, when one of you gets in a fight next year,

you're gonna feel like an extra special like, I gotta go, maybe go to Fettembers, it just teammates. - I mean, that's tough 'cause when he fought at four nations,

I've never been more nervous going into it.

I'm like, the last, I need for him to get knocked out on this stage, like, that would just be brutal, but when he was fighting, like, I truly felt like I could fight anybody. - Yeah, I did.

- It was super straight. - Like the adrenaline that I felt, might see him go and like, see him. I don't even know, all I kept saying was, I couldn't speak, again, speak English,

but I was like, just fucked you out for like 20 times. (laughing) And then, like, once you've, no, fought did great, I was like, I feel like I could take anybody away. - Yeah, that was the same thing with me though,

like, for mine, like, I was just like, calm and chill. Like, not calm, I was like, see and red. And then for him, I'm like, little bit, like, you get more nervous when it's not you. - Yeah, what's my teammate?

- Is it? - But also, like, is it like the brut,

“like, you don't wanna see your big brother get beat up?”

And then you got a defender, a little brother. - Yeah, I think that, I have a feeling that if somebody's, I mean, he's obviously like, pretty close to the, he's a light heavyweight, and that's definitely in that tier of whatever you wanna call it.

- Let me get called you fat. (laughing) - Party of two feet. - Party of two feet. - Yeah, that's true, that's true.

But I have a feeling that, like, Brady especially early, like, he's definitely gonna wanna, like, I don't wanna say, like, show off, like, everything, like, the type of player he is, but I think he's gonna come out of the gates,

like, as far it up and wanting to, like, initiate himself in the team, right? - Or in your strikes. - Yeah, that's the way to do that is being, like, playing hard, playing physical, producing,

and then, every once in a while, like, beat me flat. - So I have a feeling, like, the first time one of the guys on the team gets, like, hit, clean, but, like, maybe hard. I have a feeling, Brady's gonna, you know, try to. - Yeah, earn his strikes.

That's a great way, that's a great way of putting it. - Kind of prove it. - Just have a favorite thing to say to someone when you know you wanna fight him. She's just like, you wanna go, what do you say?

- I think my favorite of the ones you don't say anything. It's like, you just both know. - Yeah, you've got to go. - You've got to go. - You've got to go. - You've got to go. - You can't survive. - You've got to go.

- Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - That's mutual. - Just, you know. And I think those are my favorite. - Yeah, you can't explain that. - Yeah. - You just both somehow, like, don't need to do it.

- Both the wires are crossed. - Both, it's just, you know what's happening. - It's all. - Do people say you wanna go? - I love them, yeah. - I hear it. - I hear it, like, let's go. - Yeah. - And, like, you're not gonna say no

because then you wanna look like, not depends who it is. - Right. - You don't wanna be like, no, let me say that to somebody that's not good, but like, if it's fair trade off or whatever,

you're like, yeah, let's go. And then sometimes you catch them off guard and then all of a sudden your gloves are off. - I think Yens said, his favorite was, just say, you want one? - Yeah, you want one?

(laughing) - Whoa, and yep, you want one, wanna go, let's go. - Let's get the boys going, yeah. - Oh, so what says that? (laughing)

- I think Yens, that last year.

- Oh, yeah, it's awesome, it's always fun.

- You said that with Anders Lee, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it was funny because we did it the first time in Ottawa and then we played a couple weeks later, like, one of our last games of the year

for the playoff push. And then he escaped right out to me he's like, same thing as last time big boy. (laughing) Sounds good. (laughing)

- Have you ever thought, like, this is gonna get the boys going and then it absolutely does not get the boys going?

“- I mean, you could argue that that's what happened”

in playoffs. (laughing) Stahl proceeded when the cons might fight. (laughing) I mean, my thought was, you know,

we're planning against a powerhouse and try to set the tone, but... - I feel like a fight goes even matter, like who wins or loses, both teams are either fired up because they're a guy like won the fight

and got everyone going and then they got that doesn't, it's like, all right, like now we're pissed off. - Right. - Or I don't know. - Yeah.

- It's always been a positive side.

- It's always be a cool, neutral, neutral,

- It's also, yeah, you just decide how it affected the game after the game's over. Like if you win, you're like, well, it's 'cause of the fight, if you lose, you're like, well, we should probably should've fought.

- Yeah, it might have been more important. - Yeah, right.

- I've never played with somewhere

or played in a situation. I remember playing in Calgary once and we were up three nothing, like early in a game on the road and one of the guys in the team got asked to fight and fought them and it was like awesome.

And like we still won the game. But after that period, guys were like going up to be in like, hey, like, we had the momentum, like, don't do it. I'm like, fuck that, like, that was unreal.

“- Yeah, I don't think you should have a respect for the guy.”

- Yeah, right. - I'm like, that was a, you didn't get momentum off that. Like, I don't care for up three, three, nothing and they scored the next show. - Yeah.

- That was amazing. - Yeah, I think that's looked into more from the outside like, because of results than in the actual locker room. - Yeah, you guys have specific guys in the league right now where you're like, there's probably a good chance

I'm gonna have to fight them. - I say more from me than him, yeah. - Yeah, who to be? - I don't, I can't be. (laughing)

- I can't because I know some of the guys - You're not gonna stay there, I'm like, - I'm like five, five. - You're saving you up three million fights. - Yeah, yeah, and all of a sudden I'm fighting two times here.

- Yeah, you know, this game, this game, yeah. - You just gotta fix 'em, be small. - Yeah. - You gotta tell them about that. - You could just take Willie.

- I fought him before. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He's got a lot of respect for him, he's awesome. - Are you gonna have to go out of your way?

'Cause obviously, you guys are close being brothers. Are you, is there gonna be some bit of, I don't wanna say, like, like, we were looting too earlier. Like, you wanna let your teammates know, like, yeah, he's my brother, we're close.

But ultimately, like, this is about us as a team and not just his and my relationship. - Yeah, for sure. - Like, keeping our lockers gonna be next to each other. - No, no, no, we're spread out a little bit.

Like, add a Olympics we weren't. By each other, we obviously weren't together with that. But, I mean, he's already saying, like, he's like, when I'm down in Florida, like, don't be pissed off one day, when I'm golfing with three of the boys.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I'm like, hey, I get in this hot spot, yeah. - Yeah, you know what's your spot.

- But I like, and I'm always excited about it.

I was like, getting on building relationships with all these guys. I said, you know, I know, but it's gonna be, of course, great doing it with him, but he's not, we're not gonna be shoulder to shoulder all day every day. We're gonna have to.

- Yeah, you guys should shit talk each other. - Yeah, we were behind each other's back. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You should talk a couple of times.

- Like, all your teams, like, damn, they eat each other. - I know our teammates at the Olympics thought we were not because of, like, the shit talking we do to each other. Like, in cards or in the locker room or whatever, was there like, these, and like, kind of just helps loose

to everybody. - Yeah, I don't know, it's... - The boys, I guess also, yeah, you have proof that it works 'cause you want to build metal.

“- Yeah, I think that's why I think that's why I really”

excited to you because we're, had success at the Olympics, proved that we actually played with each other, like, on the same line there, so prove that work. So, just hoping for more success down in Florida because just need another chance of championship.

- Yeah, all right, well, all of the game's probably gonna get better in Florida too. - Yeah, play way more. - We'll play more often than before. - So, what's the goal for this week?

Where do we want to finish this? I know you said you finished what, like, 30th? - Yeah, I want to finish. If I can finish, I mean, I look at top third as a goal, but somewhere around, yeah, number,

I think there's 90 guys in the tournament, right? Top 30, be awesome. - Yeah. - I just want to be positive point. - Yeah, you just gotta be positive.

- Yeah, you just gotta be positive. - Yeah, you just gotta be positive. - Yeah, yeah. - Positive point. - It's hard though, like, everything in the holes

is so tough. - Yeah. - I'm like, staying in it mentally and then you're waiting a lot, like, it's two doubles around. - Yeah, it's around, look at that. - Dude, we played double as a crush. - And I thought you were talking about drinks.

- Yeah, we used to do that a lot. - Dude, that's a start, that's a double as a guy. (laughing) - The greens are insane though. - The greens are insane.

- Yeah, there's a couple of holes where it's just like, the hole was on a hill, it was like half way down the hill. - They just do such amazing, such an amazing job, like this course of an incredible show. - It didn't say, it's the best place on earth.

- Yeah, so the sun is always shining, it's nuts.

- So, all right, thank you boys. Everyone's subscribed to the podcast and we'll have you in the office when you come to Chicago this year. - I don't know, yeah, why don't you go around?

- I want him to do the, the gauntlet? - Yeah, the gauntlet. - Yeah, well, what was I, not last year's, the year before, oh, because I got, was hurt last year, the year before.

- Yeah, the year before he came by. - What's up, what are the gauntlet, like, sports? - It's Cornel, soccer, baseball, football, three-point shot, three-point shot trivia. Maybe we got to add hockey for each other, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, trivia's not gonna throw that on. - That's where they got me. - No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- We've had some, listen, we've had some,

“we had, I think, at one point we had some guys”

from the Detroit Tigers come in and one of the questions was like, name the six biggest cat species and he just didn't get tigers. It was just like, what the fuck do you?

you don't get panthers out of that.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

“- So, all right, well thanks twice, that's it.”

- Appreciate it. (classical music) - Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. We are live for the American Century Championship. It is Taylor Twelman and he's gonna talk some soccer with us.

We also were just talking to, we have to. - Yeah, we have to. - Okay, we have to, I guess. - All right, let's just rip the band-aid off, because we are gonna tape some of the podcasts.

And here's where I'm at with US soccer. We have to season a little bit of a different spot. P50's, he cares maybe a little bit more invested a little more. I love watching him. - Yep.

- I love getting behind my country. I'm now at a point where I just think we suck at soccer and that's okay. - Yep. - And that's okay.

And it's not like we suck where the worst team in the world. It's we suck relative to the big boys where it's like, hey, the levels to this are insane and watching us get absolutely embarrassed by Belgium, who is not, they're not a top 5 team.

- No, chance. - And that's not being disrespectful to Belgium, but they're right. - So I'm gonna root for them every time they're in the world cup. Every time we're in a big game, I'm gonna root for them.

- Belgium or the US, the US, but I'm also gonna just go into it being like, hey, you know what? Soccer's not our sport, so it's okay. We're gonna get to the round of 16, we're gonna lose. And then I'm gonna be like,

- I feel like this is an AA meeting. - Yeah, this is going. - The interior point, it's, yeah, it goes against us as American. - Right. - You accept that we're not even in the top three or four.

- Right. - You know, like, hockey, you know what I mean? It's big to win the gold medal. We all celebrated it because it's not a given. We're not number one, but we're in the conversation.

- Right. - We have a seat at the table. - Yeah. - It's very difficult for us as Americans, just to look at the men's program and say,

"Wow, man, we can't get in the final eight." - Right. - We can't? - Right.

“- Like, really in our own country, in our own environment?”

- I know. - At Seattle, yeah. - That's gonna be the most difficult part for me and I wasn't on the field. That has to be the most difficult part for them as well

to look back five years, 10 years. - Unless, 2030, they do this miraculous run and they use it for motivation,

but they'll still always go, "What the hell happened in Seattle?"

- Right. - Us three were together watching the game. - Yeah. - Five minutes in, all three of us, including Marty Fisher was with us.

Looked at each other and said, "What is going on?" - Why are we so slow? - Yeah. - Why are we sluggish? Why do we look like we're running in quicksand?

So, it was our first goal. - Oh my God. - Someone go step up. - Even before that first goal where I mean, we had frees made a spectacle.

- And frees had to make an unbelievable save, although as it was one-nil two minutes in. - Right. - Yeah, it's me, I keep going back and forth because I was very upset yesterday.

I stormed out of the rest of our afterwards. - I don't know what it was. - I reject said that was. - I looked around, go ahead. - Oh.

- Well, it was, it was, can I just tell real quick? It was very funny because we independently, you were with your family and Marty Fisher and his family. We were all of us together. We watched the game together.

Then independently, we all just went to the same ice cream place. - Yes. - But we get to the ice cream place and you turned to your wife and you're like, just order me something.

I got to make a video and I look over across the street and you're like underneath the tree, just ranting into your phone. (laughing) - Oh, geez.

- That's right. - It was so cathartic, it was everywhere. It was sports center in Yahoo, I did two hits and I looked, you know, I'm like, hats to shovel to the side.

I looked like I'm 14 beers deep. May or may not have been. - Yeah, that's a tough one.

“Here's the thing that's, it just, it sucks.”

- Yeah, I really sucks. I go back and forth between the sky as following, just mostly because I'm still pissed off about it. And then in my calmer moments, I think to myself, we played some really good soccer in this world cup.

Objectively good entertaining soccer

that we've never seen the United States do before.

- In what game other than Paraguay? Paraguay, I thought that we were good against Australia as well. - Okay. - I thought that first half against Australia. - But my generation would have won that game against Australia

in the same manner. - Yeah. - Most likely, most likely. - And Bosnian, we would have won that game too. 'Cause it wasn't like this free flowing attacking.

I'm putting this seated, I don't know if we did. Like I think Paraguay was really high level. - Yeah. - Sure. - But 2002, we were beating Figo and Portugal three-nil.

- Yeah. - 20 minutes in. - Yeah. - So, I don't know, I don't know that answer. Is Paraguay an anomaly?

Is that the barometer? But I thought Portugal in 2002 was the barometer and then we flamed out in 2006. I don't know this answer. - Right, Portugal 2002, we did, there was a lucky goal

in that one too. But you make your own luck, we were attacking. And the team, I guess the team that I saw,

- Sure, we, the team that I saw attacking in like group stage and against Bosnian, I feel like that's a different style of soccer, like more aggressive. It gave me more reason to be optimistic about the future of the U.S. men's national team.

And then what was so, so shitty about the game last night was just the lack of physical nature of the, they looked like they didn't care. And to me, look like the moment was too big. - Yeah.

“- 'Cause I think it was, yeah, a combination of like,”

they just, 'cause I think they cared. I think all three of us, I know what you're saying. - No, they looked like they were afraid to, you know, play the same style of soccer that they were playing before.

- But let me throw something out. I firmly believe. - I'm, let me, let me say this. Do you think the balligan news, less than 36 hours before kick off through off the entire thing?

- A little bit. - I think it did, I think it probably gave Belgium Bolton for material to know, where they're like, it is truly us, the goal celebrations. - Yeah, yeah.

- They're going like this to the waving their hands or putting the hands in, they knew there was too much talk. - Well, and there's also, it's the vibes of the story going into the game is like, we lost our best player on a bad red card, the, where the underdogs,

it's a feel good story, and then it completely flips to the, you know, America's the bad guys and everything is. - Yes. - Yeah, I think it definitely had something to do with it. I also, you, you obviously know soccer so, so well.

The Paraguay game is that also game flow. Because Paraguay, you saw what they did against Germany where it's like, what they want to do is they want to squeeze you to death. They want to play defense.

They want to make it a one nothing game is zero zero game. Us scoring so quickly, it's like, well, now they have to play hard. - Hardly. - Now, to your, it's a great observation.

“And that's where I think you're going with”

what your common is about the sky isn't falling. Paraguay just wants to squeeze you. That's all they did and qualifying. They only gave up six goals. And that's Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia,

all Ecuador, all of these South, that's amazing.

The United States punch them in the face, they couldn't recover. So game flow, it's a great observation. And that's what you're talking about. What I'm saying is though, that was in sustained.

'Cause Australia, solid win. But no generation before them doesn't win that game. - Right. - And it's the same type of game that we usually used to win. - Right. - Fight 'em, work hard, do this.

But Paraguay, there was an energy to the game that Paraguay was completely stone-faced like, who is this? - Right. - Right. The fact that they couldn't really do that

against Bosnia raised my alarm bells a little bit against Belgium because I was like, hang on a minute, right? And this is in San Francisco, a home game. Bosnia has no real chance of attacking,

where Paraguay did have a little bit more of that. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I feel like I do this every four years. - Yeah. - Yep. - And then we do the conversation

about soccer being too expensive and all this stuff. - It's like the rinsor repeat you're like, dude, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and I said that earlier in the podcast. - Yeah, and it's like,

and again, it's not like I'm rooting against the U.S. I want us to do well, but it's okay to just kind of put your hands up and be like,

hey, we're always gonna be the fourth of its sport

and it's never going to be a priority as a country to be the best at soccer. And this is what the result is gonna be. - And that's why I think the loss and the manner that they did is so heartbreaking.

- Yeah, right. - Because I do believe and I've said this the entire tournament. If they got to that quarter final to play Spain,

“I think this country all of a sudden something clicks.”

And then you're the underdog. No one expects you to do anything. And then you're kind of more free. - Right. - The expectation level was overwhelming for this group.

And majority of that group plays at high level competition in Europe. That is the biggest surprise for me. - Yeah. - That is the big, when you're playing in Syria,

the Bundesliga and the Premier League and all this, that round a 16 game, the whole reason 12 years ago when we lost to Belgium, we were talking about how do you get more experience of playing high level competition? Guys, this generation has that.

- Right. - They had a worse results. - Yeah. - They had a worse game. - Yeah.

- That's the heartbreaking and disingenuous feeling that I have of going like, do we even, do we know what we're doing? - Yeah, so we were, we were favorites in that game, too, which is crazy against Belgium.

So this game, like this time around, - Yeah, but didn't you focus on that we were fair? And I don't think you were supposed to be here. - Oh, man, I did. - Oh, no, I bet so much.

- I did US. - I bet on them, I bet on them too. - If I'm being objective, like,

we have never proven that, like, that's kind of

uncharted territory for us to true, but you gotta think of what Vegas is looking at. - Yeah. - They just played Senegal. Senegal completely outplayed them.

- Yep. - US beat Senegal, they're at home. Belgium played 30 extra minutes, 30 extra minutes, which by the way, De Bruyne didn't even play. - Right.

- Off to bench, the cock who's off to bench, it was brilliant from Rudy Garcia

'Cause I went into the game saying, in the group stage, Belgium was the fourth oldest team in the world cup. Not November 16th, they played a completely different team. They were running, they were fighting,

they were motivated. But I know what you're saying. Like, we're more favored, 70, 30, but I thought we were at least 60, 40, 55, 45. - Yeah, it just goes a home field.

'Cause of the way, the group stage, our road's been easy, it was an easy road. I thought Jim was playing Egypt and other teams, we weren't. - Yep, that game 2014 against Belgium.

- That was, so in that game, like, we came away from that feeling a lot better about US soccer as a program I think. - Yes. - Then we are right now, which is I am kind of in like,

sky is falling. Do you think that post is proven that what he's tried to do is worthy of giving him another shot, try it again four years, or do you think that we should go in a different direction?

- Yeah, he didn't get enough time. So, no matter, in my opinion, in order to fully observe and I would say objectively critique a national team, international manager,

“you have to have a full two years, he didn't even get that.”

- Yeah. - So, to answer your question, if Coach wants to come back, then he, in my opinion, I wanna see that. I'm gonna see four years of them. Keep in mind, they've got to now qualify.

- Yeah. - See the problem with this whole thing with the last three and a half years felt like a waste. - Yeah. - Copa America was a complete debacle.

There's no world cup qualifying. The front of these are hit or they're gold cup, you got your star players asking not to come in because they need a mental break. That's another thing we should talk about.

- And we should, but so, to answer your question, very shortly, yeah, if Coach wants to come back, sure. But knowing him, getting to know him, he is in everyday grind kind of guy, he's a club manager. So, I don't know if this result leaves a real negative

taste in his mouth that he doesn't wanna do it. Or does it motivate him and say, "Give me four years, four years with this group "and then let me see what I can do." - Yeah, okay, that's a fair answer.

Now, to your earlier point that you alluded to, like, yellowish, yellowish seams, and if you really need mental health breaks, people should take those

“mental health breaks, and you should take that space”

if you need it. But it does seem that yellowish has not, he doesn't have a passion for playing for the United States. It doesn't, for whatever reason he doesn't ever seem to... - You're talking.

- No, it's thicker. - Oh, I'm sorry, do you want to say yellowish? - Yellowish, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, pull this out. - Yellowish plays for the verse?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd make that. - Oh, if you've made it, if you've ever wanted to have that, if you wanted to do that discussion too, I could go on one of all these, only of our best athletes play it.

- Okay, I got my Croatian's makes it. But, pull it sick, yeah, so he takes some time off.

It never felt to me like he has the passion

to play for the United States and it doesn't get him excited for whatever reason, and he's been annoyed as being Captain America. We've talked about it, how he's like the future face of the United States soccer.

And it seems like it's just not working out. Like at what point do you say, if you're in charge of putting it together in the final roster, like you might be a very talented player, but we need guys that are gonna demonstrate a passion for this

and are going to be leaders to get everybody else fully invested in. It seems like you might not be that guy. - Yeah, the general media's asking a lot of questions of Policic now.

- Aren't they? - And Yelish. - Yeah, and Yelish too. - He usually hit the ball. I'm not gonna say that.

- I'm not gonna say that. - I agree. Yelish, your fault, you lost the Belgium. Listen, I was there when Christian was, I called this first game,

I was introduced to him, I've gotten to know him, failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup really hurt Christian Policic.

“And I think that has changed the trajectory”

of him with the national team.

You will never hear me say that he doesn't care

playing for the Red White and Blue. I know he does. The problem is, he doesn't wanna be that guy. - Right. - He doesn't.

He thrives when he's your third attacker from Milan. And then he's one of the best. - Right. - But what we're not talking about is none of us can be surprised that Policic had a bad World Cup

when from January 1st to the beginning of World Cup camp, he had zero gold contributions. After six months where he'd led serial and gold contributions. That is 180 degrees difference. That is black and white.

That is completely opposite. So I don't know what happened. We know publicly that he broke up with this longtime girlfriend. I don't know if that's it.

If personally he's going through something, if he's tangling with, do I go back to England? Because Tottenham and Manchester United, and these teams are sniffing, do I go to MLS? Because then there's three MLS teams that are willing

off from 67 million to go back.

So I don't know, but the last six months for Christian Policic were opposite of what Balagan was. And so coming into the World Cup, I thought the Senegal game would just bring it back to him.

And the injury in the Paraguay game really scared if look like it scared him. - Yeah. - It did it. It just looked like he lost his mojo.

There's a 45 minutes against Paraguay. He was really good. He was creating every time he touched the ball. - He was unbelievably good. Even without the ball, his runs were awesome.

Yeah, this one's weird. - Yeah. - It's weird and he's going to have to ask and deal with that. Listen, when you're put on the mantle, it is what it is and you're judged by

in critical moments in big games.

Yeah, that's a tough one.

“The only thing I'll say about Christian Policic against Belgium”

is he was not the only one that didn't deliver that plays that a big club and that should have been at a higher level. - Yeah. - He wasn't, but he didn't do what he needed to do.

And that's where this one becomes really interesting. He's got, he's got to target on his back now. - Yeah, yeah. - The gold cup thing. Can I just say something because I wasn't with you guys.

We didn't talk about it. I just don't understand why the messaging and how he portrayed it to the public. That was really mismanaged. - Yeah, he needs, he needs just a friend to run stuff by.

Because whenever he gives an interview, he's like, yeah, you know, it's just another tournament. We signed by like the World Cup. It's like, if you're doing an interview, if you're talking to a media, you have to at least put on a face

and act like you-- - I'm so relieved you brought up that comment. By the way, everyone in the world, if you've got to have for brain, we know it's not just their tournaments.

So that actually told me, he's nervous about the tournament. There's pressure.

See, I've always been told in brace to pressure.

'Cause it almost takes your anxiety down. Like, yeah, this is a big tournament. - Yeah. - This is the World Cup. What do you want me to do?

- Yes, it just no tournament trying to play. Then after the game, we were comment about the ankle. - Yeah. - Yeah, I just, I kind of sprayed my ankle. Christian, you came out of a World Cup game down.

- Right, yeah. - It can't just be an ankle. - It can't? - Right, yeah. - Not to the fans, not to your teammates, not to anyone.

It can't, so I couldn't agree with you. More of the messaging, it's a little weird. - Yeah, it's all strange. Can we, we can zoom out talk a little bit more about soccer as a whole, and the World Cup as a whole.

Today, what happened with Argentina? - How do you mess your Ronaldo guy? - Messy. - All right, all right, we can proceed. - Yeah.

- Just absolutely insane. People are going to be upset about the VAR being used to... - They brought it into, like, a hundred yards of 100. - It was one of the best goals I've ever seen. (laughing)

- Like, it was unbelievable. - Absolutely. - For those of you who are listening, watching, you gotta go watch it. - Yeah, the guard that was, the goal that was taken back

was, at what point does this FIFA step in and say, like, "Hey, VAR is a great tool."

“- Well, it's, like, we're losing control of SkyNet, right?”

- Let me ask SkyNet to take it over to you. - 'Cause I'm gonna reverse it, but same topic. Does it drive you nuts the way American football has turned into regarding the catch? - Yeah, absolutely.

- Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, absolutely. - What are we doing?

- Here's what I don't understand about VAR,

and you can tell me this is the dumbest thing ever for soccer. I get it. - Offside, you need the rule. Everyone's like, "Oh, there should be no offsides." Why can't it just be where your feet are?

- Yeah. - Like, the thing that drives me nuts is when it's like, in offsides, and the guys feet are completely on side. - But it's a shoulder, or his arm, or his hand is dangling. That has no outcome.

The spirit of the rules, you can't get behind the defender. If your elbow is behind the defender, that does not change how you're playing soccer. - Big Cat, I could not agree with you more, and I bet you a million dollars

that, after this woke up, there will be real consideration of Arson Venger and his idea of offside of being daylight between the defender and the defender. - I like that.

- I like that. - 'Cause what bothers me, and we can think, the Premier League for ruining VAR, my pinky was offside, missed me with it. - Right, yeah.

- Like, what are we doing? - Lukaku's dick was offside. - It's like, actually, I was actually gonna say, it's like, circumcising mosquito right now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- It's crazy. - Really, where are we going with this? - The Croatia goal was bullshit. Like, that was, that's just spirit of the sport.

“He was not, it did all the cranes watch the goal, okay?”

And we have six eyeballs. It still have not seen the ball turn differently. - Oh, right. - But the chip in the ball said it hit his hair and it spiked up and you're like,

"I've watched the video with my eyes that I don't see it." I hope far has been exposed for certain things. And I wish American football, this does Ryan complete the catch thing. - Guys, I don't, well, you know what it is?

I was saying what it was like. It was, it was that one year that after the Saints Rams, and FC Championship game where they're like, "Yeah, we're gonna make passenger-fference reviewable." It's like, "Why?"

- This is gonna be brutal. - It's a bad watch. Now, we all know gambling is more than likely the reason behind it. Far is really, really important for 2010.

Franklin parts, scored a goal for England. Ball hit, underside the bar,

Reffin' line's been didn't see it, goal doesn't count. That is why we need far. - Yeah. - We need far to expose off side. We need to change the off side law.

The red cards, whoa.

“- Yeah, well, this tournament's been really interesting to me.”

Because in MLS, we don't have this dissecting certain things. It's got to be clear and obvious for you to recent something. Or give something. And I think this tournament's exposed

that I just hope FIFA doesn't bury their head in the sand and say, "No, it's fine, it is what it is." - It's also like, being a Reffin''s hard. - I can tell 'em it should be part of the game. - You know what I mean?

- It's like, you can't review every little plan. - So I'm a massive say those cards fans, right? - 1985 World Series. - Yeah. - God bless this oath.

- Yeah. - Like, that on part of that moment, like, it's a human element. - All right. - Part of, you know what?

- Now it is. - We would have had a answer. - Is it crazy to say there should be two Reffs? - That's a lot of ground for E. - It's been discussed.

- One Reff to cover. Like, I know they're running a diagonal system and all that. So they're trying to get the assistant Reff for E as, you know, in one corner, you got the assistant out of here.

- No, it's been discussed. - But like, that's a big ass field. I feel like we could have to, and basketball, we have multiple Reffs and football. We've got, like, half the guys on the field are Reffs.

- Well, no, the soccer peers would tell you right now, well, we have three Reffs, so you're like, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, hang on a minute. - The assistant Reffs raise their goal in the game. They go into the game, making sure they're in line with the last defender.

Their whole goal is off side. - That's all they care about, right? - Yeah.

- Adding a second Reff, in each Reff does each half, okay?

There's an intriguing part to that, because you can then say, well, the Reff goes against the attacking team one half, defending team the other half. So there's gonna be no, like, playing favorites or anything like that. - Right.

- I think there's value to it. Now, there's not value to it. I would argue against myself on the point is, well, VAR is supposed to protect that. My issue is this, if you have VAR or instant replay in any sport,

and you still can't get calls right, we've got a problem. - Yeah, yeah. - We've got a role. - We're officiating because if you referee everything to the letter to the law, if you had VAR in NFL

then everything was up to this sky judge, you could call a penalty for holding it. - But no, they're beholding on every single play.

“- You have to let him play at something.”

- It's the NBA when we started to get a little bit out of it, but the fact that we would just spend five minutes seeing if it glanced off someone's pinky, and it's like, - Yeah. - Just call it, just call it.

- Just call it. - Yeah, call the game. - Call the game? - Oh, that said, this world cup has been awesome. - So I know that we've just basically been saying

all the things that we're frustrated about right now,

but it's been an incredible word.

- No, I argue the last 30 minutes we just talked is growth of this thing. - Yeah. - I do think they listen, you guys, in your listeners, in your viewers, they intelligently talk the game now.

- Yeah, maybe, we say a lot of dump stuff. - Dude, I say dump stuff, and I'm supposed to be an expert. - Yeah. - But by point is, it is more mainstream than we've ever had it. In the conversation, in the discussion,

I got the massive argument, TSA pre-agent was so upset about a VAR call in a Morocco game. You know, and he wouldn't let me go by him. I was like, dude, my flight leaves in two minutes. - Yeah.

- You're right. - And it's good. - Basically, I got on the plane. I was like, that was the coolest thing. - No, because if you have people complaining about stuff,

that means they care. - They're like, if they don't complain, then they're just not watching and they don't care. - Yeah, you know, like, half the countries lost their mind about the whole Caitlyn Clark thing.

We're talking about the WMBA, play more. So like, I do think, yeah, there's like, people pulling you aside. - They have lost their brains on Caitlyn. - They don't care.

- They don't care, they don't care. We hold these brains, not so, so we're, oh my God. - We are loving the world cup. I'm loving the penalty kicks. I love, we, big hand, I both love the penalty shoot out.

- Okay, so I got a question for both here. - Yeah. - Would you rather be the goalier of the taker? - Taker, taker. - I buried it every time.

- Perfect. - I just wanted that sound by the post-it taker. - Yeah, yep. - And which number penalty would you want to take? - I want to go first.

- I want to go a certain tone. - Okay, why first? Because I want to set the tone. - I liked that, why third? - Because you're like kind of somewhere in there

where people don't really remember if you made like there's still time left, but also it could be a significant one. - Yep. - I would not want to be first or fifth.

- Absolutely not. - So the story isn't, I want to keep this going

“'cause I think your listeners will appreciate it.”

The story is your best penalty taker always takes one.

And I always wondered, okay, but any kind of sports that psychologists will tell you, the biggest you know what? And the guy that wants to pressure is four or five. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Well, it's not that person. - Yeah, it's a high leverage. - Yeah, it's like I told you the leverage spot. - I mean, I don't know. - But one sets the tone.

Always has always well. - I'm not a math guy, but I feel like it's like in baseball,

Right, I know that traditionally in baseball it's been a little bit different

“where you've had your best hitter's hitting three, four,”

- Did you know right now there's like-- - You know right now there's like 18 guys in major leagues that are hitting over two, 75. - I saw a clip we talked about.

- I saw a clip the other day on Instagram this is a sidekick. - I saw a clip the other day where it was just introducing the NL all-star team from like 99. Every guy was hitting like 360.

- It was so nuts to see. - It was like, it was going right now it would be a pit hitter. - Yeah. - It was jarring to see. - Which crazy is like in the penalties would Germany.

They weren't having discussions about it who's gonna take the next one. I feel like that's something that they should have probably sorted out. - We had three--

- Legit players for them to climb to take a path. - Yeah that's crazy. - How does that happen? - How does that happen? - I don't know.

- I don't know. I've lived this. - I'd make sure I declined well in advance. - Yeah. - To take me out of the game.

- And that's-- - So that's-- - Don't but you were laughing. - Yeah. - But damn brings up your point.

“Shouldn't you have already talked about this in training?”

- Correct. - Correct. - But you make subs things happen. All I'm gonna say is then I lived it. I lived it 2006 MLS Cup.

We had two players. Two really good players. Say they didn't want to take a penalty. - That's crazy. - And I sat there and I was like,

and it really guys it truly made me the-- one of the most mad I've ever been, 'cause I have so much more respect for you. If you raise your anyone, take you, you miss it.

You will always get your back.

- For sure. - Because you stepped up. But you don't want to take it. So now every time you think of that, those three Germans.

- Yeah. - So then Jonathan Ta, who apparently, full disclosure from his teammates, raised his hand goes out 100% take one. - Well good, I got to take one.

- Yeah. - Now it's one of the worst penalties I've ever seen. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah, how does that happen, by the way? - How do you sky it?

- It's unreal. - How do you hit it? - You would just happen with Columbia and Switzerland, like, I don't understand how you missed a goal that bad.

- Last year at the American Century Championship, I have an eagle chip, never ever have I bladed it in my life. - Yeah. - Oh, you know what the hell out of that ball.

Across the green to the other side, I'll look at my get-a-go, it's pressure. - Yeah. - Jonathan Ta is probably taking a hundred penalties in his life

and never hit one over the goal.

It comes now to the round of 32. He's got to make it to stay and he hits it. Little Adam Venetary hadn't kicked a ball that high. - Right. - Like he legitimately hit that 30 rows into the stance.

- I just thought it was a sin, I guess the part I don't understand, a pressure makes sense. But like, these guys are so good. If you just put it in low corner, high corner, like it's almost impossible.

“- I think if you just hit it really strong.”

- Yeah. - The goalies got to really come up with a big save. - Right. - But I took a penalty once. It was in Dortmund and it's called the Yellow Wall.

And behind the goal, it's 30,000, 35,000 and everybody's dressed in yellow. That goal that is it big goal when I'm there for practice, that goal looked at this ball. - Yeah.

- You know what I mean? - I just think pressure makes it and everything comes in. The other part is Paraguay Goli on Cleats, he's 610. With Cleats on he's 610. So then he goes like this and Jonathan probably looks

at the goal and says, "Where the hell am I going with this then?" - Yeah, I mean a movement. Messy got one saved on him today. - Messy's four, he's in the wall. - He's not at the right place.

- He's not at the right place. - Yeah. - No, he's not at the right place. - Did you ever take the MLS style penalty? - No, it was like the shootout thing where you drew my head

as well. - I've been like a bobblehead and tripped around. I would love to do that in our All-Star game. - Yeah. - I'd love to see the current players try to do that.

- Yeah, that was a wild time. - I do. - You got five seconds. The whistle blows, the Goli can bum rush you. - Yeah.

- And you got five seconds to shoot it. - Yeah, rock. - So Messy, I mean, it's insane what he's doing. - It's insane. - People were, I saw a clip go viral a couple of weeks ago

where the announcer was saying, this is probably his last World Cup in 2018. They were saying that. He's one World Cup and he's leading the goalscores, in this year's World Cup.

Like what is it just that he's like,

because his game was never about athletic,

let us assume that he's able to do it this late. Like where it's just, it's always been his touch, his, the way he sees the game, the angles. Like is that why is he playing his next level? I will tell you this because it's been a true pleasure

to follow him. And I've done 80, some odd percent of his games. And MLS within a Miami. And I'll tell you, there's two things that stand out to me. I've never seen anyone more competitive.

Like he is, he's accomplished everything in his life. And he's going up against the Colorado Rapids and he wants to beat the prince. Like legitimately embarrass them. So I'm sitting there thinking,

this guy's different, way different. The other part is, and everybody talks about it. He walks a lot. - Yeah. - He walks with such a purpose.

It really screws the opposition's brain.

- So like this, he's still walking. And then all of a sudden, he's floating around. And you know, I made this analogy. It's kind of a weird one, but I'm gonna go with it. You know, when you're sitting on a summer night

and the lake and the lake waters really still, and there's this fly that bounces off the water. If you think about Messie's career,

he's never really been tackled that hard.

- Yeah. - If you'd think about it, he's never been like Barcelona, Argentina, even Miami. He's got such a sixth, seven cents of where everybody else is that he dodges a lot of trouble.

- Yeah. - Like, look at that, he didn't score today against Egypt, but that run, he didn't score. - No, I'm saying he didn't score on the water. - Dude, it was unbelievable.

- Yeah. - And I'm like, he's 39. - Yeah, it's not. - It's unreal. But he's the most competitive guy I've ever met.

- All right, so I gotta question off that. Holland is been insane.

“He's a breakout star, I think a lot of people”

who watch E-Bail obviously knew who he was. - Yeah, but the general public did, so you're 100% right. - But he does the same thing where he's walking. That clip is so cool.

If you haven't seen it, he's cool. His head or goal against Brazil. Where he actually looks like he's disinterested in the game. Like, looks down while the ball is being played to the side.

- He had me set up the defender. - And then it's just boom out of nowhere. He's now sprinting to a spot, heading the ball in. - What, is that like, how is that work? I don't understand how guys are able to do that.

- First off, big, big, great question.

When I was 21, England Great played in the World Cup in '82 and he was our assistant coach with the refs. His name was Paul Mariner. He looked at me and he goes, you run too much. And I was playing number nine and I'm thinking,

you know, first off, I think my shit doesn't stink. I just literally scored 30 goals the year before. I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm buzzing around, I'm gonna run everybody at death. He goes, you run too much.

So we would watch tape and he would show me guys,

“the highest level that they would bait the defender.”

So, how in the messier, two different completely different players. But they're doing the same thing in the opposition. They want to low you to sleep. They want to just get there.

And then when they have to turn it on, that defender, it's no different than a corner back in the NFL. He's gonna be caught flat-footed, right? Because he's slowing down and Holland doesn't brilliantly. The clips unbelievable.

I put it on my Instagram because it's so focused on him and he's walking and the defender's doing this and the defender goes like this and he's gone. - Yeah. - So, even I was told at 2223,

dude, stop running because it's easier for defender to react 'cause you're buzzing and he just follows you. You gotta get him to stop and then go. - Just separation. - Yes.

See, at his heyday, was the quickest player on the field hands down. He was. When I played against him, he was wearing, I think. He was even wearing 10 yet for Argentina.

It was 2007, Copa, America. And he had this aura around him. But what I noticed and he was what, 18, 19 at the time. What I noticed was, the moment he won and turned it on, he blew by it in two or three seconds.

- Right. - Early in Holland and in Bob Bay. Over 60, 70 yards, they cannot, they cannot.

“That's why when Americans go, well, the best athletes.”

Dude, our sport, like, we've got really good athletes. - Right. - Chris Richards is an absolute stud of an athlete. It's more than that. - Oh, yeah.

- Well, I mean, Holland's a perfect example.

He's an incredible athlete, but it's the fact,

like, there's an arc of deep finishing of goal. Like, that takes a kick in the same way. - Yeah, Harry Kane's like, okay, he's not, you know, the best player he's not, like, lighting it up, athletically wise, but he knows how to,

- Yes. - Put the ball in the back of the net. - It's a craft. - Yeah, it really is a craft. - Do you think, if I were to give you odds on France

or the field at this point, who are you taking? - France. - I would have taken France before the tournament. - They're so good. - And they're so deep, it's great.

- They could have three teams in the world cup and all three would be in the Rhonda 16. - Yeah. - They're that good. - What is it about?

- They do an unbelievable job developing their, so if you look at the Senegalese Algeria, Morocco, France. If you look at all of those players in this world cup, France had a touch and like, I want to say 80%. It might be a low-less on all of them in development.

- Wow. - So there's something about France where they develop the masses and then they throw their fishing net out and see who wants to come and then the other ones

go play for other countries. - We gotta start doing that. - Senity, do we, we do more. - You're 100% correct. - Yeah.

- I'm telling you, there's some value to thinking that's just develop everybody in the United States. And if they want to go play for Bosnia or Mexico, so what? But at least it gives us the better odds

of having three Western McKinney's. - Yeah. - France is insane. You'd think about Zinedine Zidane could have played for Algeria.

The sun is playing goalkeeper for Algeria. They're just, their development is,

maybe more athletic, but tactically in technique wise, they're the next level. I did it, I wrote the list out. Top 10, best attacking players in the world, France has three of them.

- Scraising.

- Always say, D'embele, and Mbapé.

And you could argue, all of us say it's probably top six. So they have three of the top six. - That's insane. - Yeah, they've been dumb.

So if it's not France, who would it be? - I think we're going to repeat, guys. I think it's France against Argentina. - Really.

“- I think France will play in their third straight world”

cup, which is, I think only Brazil was Zico did it. Maybe, maybe it, I'm not positive. And then I think messy in Argentina, it's just, I just think the stars are aligned. Cape Verde, Egypt, I just feel like they're finding ways

to get out of it, but when they meet in the final, against France, I just feel like France is going to be a difficult test for them. - Yeah, I mean, that would be in Argentina. - I mean, Argentina now, please Switzerland.

- Yeah, right. - Switzerland to be Columbia in penalties, that's a little bit of an upset Columbia should have won that game, they didn't. It's just like Argentina kind of has this field set up

where it's like boom, we're in the final. - Yeah. - And then with Brazil, what's wrong with Brazil? - They lost their aura. - Yeah, how?

- I've seen the building. - I was in the building, 2004, 2004, 2004. - They lost to Germany. - Yeah. - 7-1.

- That kind of mold. - That was it. - It would have thought it was the funeral of the entire nation. - Yeah. - 7-1, guys, so they're used to be this feeling.

And I played against Brazil. I'm gonna say three or four times. When you walked out and you saw yellow blue and white, you immediately needed to change your underwear. 'Cause you're like, I'm gonna be running my ass off,

defending this entire game. They were, they're them, right? - Do they haven't had that since, 14? - No. - None of it.

They don't play beautiful anymore. - No, they play scarred, they play some music in the stadium and I'm watching a team. They had 38% possession and lost in Norway. - Yeah.

- Statistically, since that's that's, that's the lowest Brazil's ever had in a World Cup knockout around game. - And they were scared! - They had chances, they've won.

- Of course they, I mean, they miss penalties right there. But still, you're Brazil, right? - Right. - You knock it around, you can't have a attack. - Oh, it drives me, it's a loss for the world game.

I'm gonna tell you that right now. - Yeah. - 'Cause they're the number one country in the world in exporting professional players. Still to this day.

There's no country that produces professional players like Brazil, but they don't have any of that, what we use the love. - The sweat. - It's boring. - So, can you, if you were to just kind of map out

how the next couple of weeks are gonna look,

“what is going to be the heartbreaking moment for England?”

- Mm. - 'Cause you kind of said it earlier, it doesn't sound like it's coming home. - I was rooting for them against Mexico because I thought it was too early for them to be out.

I wanted them to be out later. - And I hate Mexico.

- Yeah, it's right, but I always thought it was my rival.

- So, but I also was just like, this just feels the round of 16 in the neighborhood. - It's awesome. - It's awesome. - That doesn't feel right for a great English heartbreak.

- No, no, no, totally. The jadenists of the fan, they can't lose that. - Yeah, they got it. - They got it. - They got it, they got it.

- They have their heartbreaking fashion. - They have to fully believe again. And then once, at that moment, where they fully believe that it's coming home, they will realize that it is not. - I mean, right now, they're playing Norway

in the quarter final. - Yeah. - There's no way they lose that game. - Is that it? - Yeah, that might be it.

- You know what I might be, yeah. - Think about it. Early in Holland has literally eight every defender in the Premier League's lunch for the last three years for man's.

- You might be right. - Yeah, you might be right. - Could that be the moment? - Yeah, that's it. - That's it right there.

- My professional soccer pin, I don't, I think England beats them.

“- I think they're better seen the Norway overall.”

- I do too. - But Norway's got something going that it's hard to match. - And they remind me of both. - Yes, they remind me a lot of 94 Sweden. And that team went to the semi final in '94.

There's just, there was an aura with that Swedish team. Norway's got something going right now. They just, and their goalkeeper's been fantastic. He's not getting enough credit 'cause early in Holland, everything he touches hits

the back of the net. - Yeah. - But their goalkeeper's brilliant against Brazil. Brilliant. - Yeah.

- All right, Taylor, this has been awesome. I got one last question, rowback question. RHOBacicate.com, promo code take 20% off

the first purchase, Qsips, Polos, hoodies,

joggers, shorts, rowback.com. All right, back to this tournament that you're about to play in, American Century Championship. Last year, I saw you 'cause I stayed for the weekend. I saw you on Saturday after you're around.

You were tied for first. - Yep. - Can you win it? - Win it. - Yes.

- So what happened on Sunday? - Real simple, whole, give me a minute, whole four. I had a 14 foot eagle putt, and it rimmed out. That goes in, I have a five point lead, four point lead. And Joe, having played with Joe numerous

Joe could double the first hole, like he did last year,

and he will put his bootstraps on and he'll dig in. But that would have been a nice little, right? And then two holes later, I had eight foot for birdie in the same thing, it rimmed out and came back to me. And that's when I was like, okay, so you're gonna test me

this way. - Right. - The thing I'm most proud about was even after those two holes, I still got to a whole 14 or 15 with a lead. - Right.

- Then the wheels came on. (laughing) I shoot one over. Joe shoots three under, boom, it's over. So I just, I hit whatever number of greens I hit,

“I think it was like 48 in a row, big bar,”

I just got to make a push, yeah, I got to make a push. I got to make a push, we got to make a push. - We got to make a push again. - Do you guys played this course the other day? - I think I hit a green.

- You guys do. - You have to make putts. - Yeah, that's right. - You have to. - Yeah, I hit my best shot on the par three was eight.

- Yeah. - And then I four putted, it's got a five. - Yes. (laughing) You have to make putts?

- Yeah. - And that's the thing. So there's about eight, nine, really good sticks that can flip it up, turn it up. But again, it's pressure, you've got to show up.

In the one thing I haven't done a good enough job is, par's are fine, you need 'em. You're better off making birdies and bogies if you want to win, but if you want to just compete and be in the final group, make your par shoot

to under, one under, whatever it is. But that's where the Marty fish is, John Smoltz, like John Smoltz last year, thought 31 on the back or whatever the number was. He just flipped it up, right?

“So that's what you honestly in order to win it,”

that's what you have to do. - Sorry, who can win it? - So, Smoltz, Marty can win it? - Yes. - Joe Povellsky, Steph Curry, Steph Curry for sure.

- Who else can win? - Jake Owen is a sneaky, good stick. - Can we roll no win it? - Romo absolutely can. - Yeah.

- Romo, and I love you buddy, but you're probably on the range right now, doing a million different exercises. Romo will hit seven thousand balls. So it's a but Romo absolutely can. But it just comes down to Sunday

who makes pots and who does it? And that's really what it comes down to. You cannot win it on Friday, which I've learned, but you can lose it on Friday if you don't just stay the course and make birdies,

but make your pars and just get points. - Yeah. - No doubles and you stay the course. - When you find out who you're playing with on Friday.

- Honestly, I'm so wrapped up at other side, never know,

but the email or text comes Thursday. - Okay. - But I asked this year, I said, if the United States beats Belgium, I would really like the first tea time, so I can watch it.

So I don't know, I might have the first tea time and they're like, yeah, let's just give it to him. Anyways, 'cause obviously I wanted to watch a game and that would have been read it like 12. - So you're the jinx.

- I'm the jinx. - Yeah, I'm the jinx. - Yeah, I'm the jinx, I'm the jinx. - That's great. - That's awesome.

- Let's talk about Trump or the president. - You're the jinx. - Still a troll. - All right, we'll tell our voices. - We love having you on and best luck this tournament.

- And the other sucks. - Yeah. (laughing) - Peace of shit. You're afraid to compete in the home run, Derby.

(laughing) - Oh man. (dramatic music) - Okay, let's wrap it up. Guys on chill.

- Henry? - This is actually a great one. - Yeah. - Is it chill to not give a fuck about sports until it play offs?

And I fell in college with bar my exceptions. I admit, I get rock hard in the pixins on my TV, but NBA MLB college basketball seemed like set to drag to watch the regular season, but when playoffs were around,

I get very invested in love with storylines. Inclusion, make regular seasons mean something again. I don't, in the conclusion, I don't regular seasons.

“There's just sports where I think it's okay”

for some people to like watch every game of, and but the people that watch every game of every sport like that's a lot. I think it's fine to enjoy watching the playoffs of like baseball and hockey.

- Yeah. - I watch every playoff game of any team. The regular season, I'm not like I just am not a person. It's gonna be like, I'm watching every regular season game. - It is, it's more fulfilling if you're invested

all season, and then you're like, all right, now we're in the play, like if you see the ups and downs of a baseball season, and then you get to playoffs, but yeah, I mean, getting older and like realizing maturitys,

like you don't have to watch every single game of every single thing to be like, hey, I like this sport, I like this team. - Also, sometimes life gets in the way. Like it's tough if you wanna be like a die-hard baseball fan

watch every game, you basically have to just,

that's all you do, and the summer time is like, your schedule revolves around baseball. But there is, there is like, like the Cubs, for example, this year are actually hilarious, you know, the most skits of forensic team,

I can remember in a long time in the fact that they've had that, they had two 10 game winning streaks, they had a 10 game losing streaks, they have last week, they scored 22 runs on Wednesday, and then lost 17 to one on Friday.

It is fun to like experience the absolute roller coaster

I'm not gonna freak out about any result the Cubs have day to day because they're just, they make no sense, and that's, that part is actually fun. - But like the World Cup for example,

it's chill to just hop on the bandwagon for a couple of weeks,

“and like I think in cities and stuff, it's like,”

yeah, when your city's team is in the playoffs, it's like, all right, I'm fucking, I'm watching every game of the playoffs. - Yeah. - I think it's chill.

- I think it's chill.

I've always thought taking nap on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon

with golf and the TV backgrounds, one of my ideal in the app situations, wanting to get your take on the perfect nap, looks like love to show you guys the best. - I mean, yeah, that's the classic nap.

- We don't know, we're a sports nap. - I think we might have. - I think we have the best times to fall asleep. - Perfect nap is like early or springtime or fall windows open, game on little fall asleep

on the couch, get like the fresh air coming in, fall asleep, and then like it's the really perfect nap is like a Saturday afternoon falling asleep like maybe a couple minutes left in the first half of the afternoon window and then waking up like halfway

through the third quarter and being like, all right, let's go. Like we got, you know, 25 games finishing right now. - That's a beautiful map. - I also like the post Thanksgiving nap. - At about like five or six PM.

Had a few glasses of wine, bellies full, right before. Then you wake up and you get the left over sandwich. - Mm-hmm. - That's a pretty good nap too. - Window's open though.

- SOOF. - It's nothing wrong.

“- Right after a long beach day, like day and a sun.”

- Golf? - Right after golf?

- Yeah, but like beach beach and then waking up

and it's still like ready for dinner. - Yeah. - Like yeah. - Yeah, but you also have to time it correctly 'cause there's nothing worse than doing the nap

where you sleep too much and you wake up and you're like, what fucking time is it? Where am I? I slept too much. It's like that, that nice like 20 minute.

I feel like I can't. - If I go longer than like 30 minutes, I get fucked up. - The road trip nap is also nice too 'cause it feels like you teleported.

- Yeah, that's nice. - Like all we've got like three hours and they see us all 15 minutes and then we're there. - Hank loves that one. - I do.

- My nap's now or just gonna be how long can I, those are like, those are like, those are naps out in necessity, like not really comfort. - My nap. - Hank is the best sleeper of all night.

- Yeah, my fart. - My got super seasick on about last week and at one point we just lost them and he actually just passed out for like a good 30 minutes of this boat trip.

He's by just deactivated. - Yeah, you're basically my puke, my three year old. - We went on a boat last week and my three year old just laid down on the floor of the boat and just nap for 20 minutes.

- This is Hank Booth. - I thought it was one of those things. He was like, I'm seasick and then he went to like another part of the boat and his eyes were closed. Obviously 'cause he was sleeping but I thought he was like,

oh, shit, he's really going through it. He like, he like needs to close his eyes and I talked to him after he's like, oh no, I was just asleep like pass out that. - Love that.

- Love that. - So my nap's now are just how long can I fall asleep until my kids find me?

And they always find me fast.

- What's up fellas? I'm 27, I've been playing mens League baseball for the last two years. I ran D1 track but also played football and baseball growing up.

My mens League is really competitive with a lot of former college players and so organized that they have his circle stats going back 20 years. - Whoa.

- I'm closing in on the stolen base record in a season. (laughing) - Seriously, it sounds like the worst. How do I do it? - Hold on though.

I wanna hear about this because I agree with you, Max, but unless everyone is opted in. How do I be more chill and mens League?

“Is there any way to be chill and mens League baseball?”

Do I go for the record? Anything else? - Get in a different league, but in a weird way, if everyone is opted in to like taking it super seriously and keeping records, then you're signing out.

It's the problem with like the wreck sports is when you show up and there's just one team that's just taking you way more seriously than everyone else. Like if these guys are just super hardouts and they're like, "This is our super hard o-league?"

God bless 'em. - But it sounds like this guy is not. - He might not because the way that he's asking this question, he's like, "This is a league that they take way too seriously and I'm finding myself also taking it too seriously

and I don't like what I'm becoming and you know what? You're right, buddy. But don't like what you're becoming. - Also because mens League baseball...

- Steels and mens-- - He's got his book, can we all agree? He's got to go for the wreck. - He has to go for the wreck. - He's got to go for the wreck.

- If you're all in the wreck, you already are a douchebag. Get the wreck here. - I also, I like that he's acknowledging what he's-- - But he has to get this wreck, got to get the wreck. - 'Cause actually that's actually the least chill thing

is to take it so seriously and not get the wrecker. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause at least if you're like, yeah,

I take my mens League super seriously. Oh yeah, and by the way, I'm the Ricky Henderson of the League. Then everyone's like, okay, cool, that's sick, dude. - Steels and mens League, so that's something you'd ever

- It would be funny though, if it wouldn't even harder.

“If this league, like there was a fantasy league”

that people could like fall along and have players from this super hardoteam and like compete against each other, oh, I got this guy, he's racking up the steels this year.

I'll never forget that season.

- Yeah. - All right, last one, bartender here, any advice on remaining chill behind the bar? Chill levels are high to start the night, but after a few hours, chill levels can be severely

depleted as you expect dealing with drugs all night. Everyone loves a chill bartender, so the chiller I am directly correlates to the level of tips I get. Help a brother out. Also, I know PFC is just gonna say,

there's an easy solution to this, just get drunk. That's not really an option, so any other ideas we can't wish you appreciated. - Okay, that was my suggestion. Maybe just have, if you just have like some fake whiskey,

people like it when you take shots with them at the bar. - Sure.

“- So you can pour yourself like a fake shot,”

when you see a group of people doing a shot,

then it looks like you're drinking with them, they'll give you big tips. - I like that idea, that's a good idea. I don't really know what else, like smoke breaks, it's usually smoke breaks, they're just smoke wisely job.

- Yeah. - Get some cool visors. Yeah, get some cool visors, maybe smoke some weed. Do some coke, I don't know, I don't really know. Like, it's a really hard job to be a bartender

after like being around drunk people that much by the end of the night has to be so grating and so like hard to deal with. So I think it's really just yeah, get really drunk with them.

Feel like he's right. I feel like we're all also like overdosing on gas fumes right now.

- Yeah, that's fine, I like smell of gas.

- Yeah, it's pretty good, it's good, it's really good. All right, you wanna do numbers, random generator? Let's do it, random number generator, 17, 12, 16. - Zach, would you like to make a prediction for how you do tonight on your cooking?

Zach is doing our annual, our annual Zach Grills for the whole squad night. How are you feeling? - I feel good about it, I got some reps in at this point and I feel like I can put together decent meal.

- Yeah, I think you've done it well. Like two or three times, so it's more than the annual.

“I think twice, last time they caught us on a grill”

that may have had a lot of stuff. Airbnb grills had a lot of stuff at the bottom of it. We had a little bit of a fire. I'm gonna make sure to clean out the grill even better this time so we can avoid flames.

- Yeah, all right, 50, ready? - 44, 36, I was a 36, you know what I wanna win these? - 36, yeah, these Mickey Mouse. - Zach, you're bleeding. - Yeah, yeah, I was gonna...

- Are you bleeding? - I'm bleeding at this. - What's high, pick up my cuticle sometimes. So I just tripped one. - I would love to help Zach with the meal one of these years.

- No. - It's better to just, he can handle it. - We can have like a real good family meal. - He can do this. - But we can do it.

- It would be hell if I could do it like a pasta salad. - All right, I'll let you, I'll say that you make a pasta salad. - You can't go outside. - Deal. - All right, you can't go outside.

That's fine. You can do anything you want. And you're gonna make us bread bread, boy? - No, I'm bad at making bread. - That's me.

- Which is crazy, 'cause you make it all the time. - Well, according to me. - Happy birthday to Robbie Fox, good guy, Robbie Fox, and OJ Simpson. - Mm, bad guy, Roj Simpson.

- And I like angle. - Any, a, a, miss memes. - Try and find some. - Okay. - Striking out memes.

- Striking out some pair of some memes. - Oh, my God. - Memes. - You got any? - No.

- Every time I'm baking. - Oh. - You've been on the show. - You haven't been on the show? - Yeah.

- Good one. - Good for him. Love you guys. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

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