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. Welcome to part of my take. presented by Drath King's, the Crown is yours. Today is Monday, July 6th, and PFT, what a soccer tournament we've got going on. It's pretty

incredible, and let me just start by saying, I know a lot of people probably want to hear our reaction

to the FIFA news, the appeal of the suspension that was actually a suspension of a suspension. It was a true where were you moment? Yeah, when I found out, I was getting a colonoscopy, and I woke up, and I thought that I died, and that I was in heaven. Yeah, and for a while, it was just kind of floating around. If it was like, you know, the butt drugs they gave me, or whatever it was, but man, what a great piece of breaking news. You had a man inside your asshole

when you found out. Yeah, I did. I did. I totally inside your asshole. Yeah, with the camera. Mm-hmm. Maybe try to stream it next time. It was, uh, listen, so for anyone who missed it, Balgon, who is our striker, got a red card in the previous match. It's a bullshit red card. Bullshit red card, which let's start with that. So the red card, the, the, the, the people are very upset right now, because the red card, uh, was bullshit. It was, yes, he did

cleat someone in the back of the leg, but it was also, he had nowhere. It wasn't intentional, and the refs used VAR slowmo, which they shouldn't have been using to give him the red card. So he's suspended for our, our match today against Belgium. Mm-hmm. Until Sunday morning, when news came, actually credit to Davy pitch pitch, uh, our boss, Dave Portroy said, uh, he's,

not overturned. So the red card stands. Oh, yeah, that's right. But the suspension, the one game, and we talked about this a little bit on Friday. The red card, the punishment is, you're out for the rest of the game, plus there's a one, uh, one game suspension afterwards.

I've always thought that's bullshit. Like your team has to play down a man for the

tournament for 35 minutes. Yeah. And then, uh, then they tack on in the world cup that you get a one game suspension after that. So they suspended the suspension, um-hmm, pending his good behavior.

“I think it's like a one-year thing where if he fucks up at all, then we'll go back and time and”

we'll suspend you against Belgium. Yeah. So he was suspended, uh, for our big knockout game on Monday against Belgium today, uh, until Sunday morning, when it was suspended, this suspension was suspending. Mm-hmm. And, uh, it seems like all roads are pointing to, uh, our president Donald Trump, who maybe got involved, did a little strong arming. And the normally, uh, you know, unassailable

FIFA who had never ever, yeah, let anyone strong arm them, they did just play an entire tournament

in the middle of the desert, built by a bunch of slave labor, and it was also in the middle of December when the world cup is never played. Neither here nor there, uh, Belgium is now back, and we have our full squad, and the tiers are incredible. The European tiers, Belgium is loaring up, which is pathetic by them. You think you're gonna beat our lawyers? Not only that, that's kind of what we do. Play us on the, play us on the fucking pitch, dude. Play us on the pitch,

11 on 11. We're not doing any back room deals or any strong arms. And after this, this courtroom football, in America, we don't deal with judges and injunctions and lawyers when it comes to our football. No, we do. We go out on the pitch. We just let the grass talk. Let's just be real crystal clear. What we're talking about when we're talking about corruption. Because in this case, it was a blatantly incorrect call. That was called incorrectly. That has not been overturned

but suspended. And it's the smallest piece of justice that the United States could ever get from FIFA going back over the years, the travesties. The game against the handball on the line against Germany in 2002, the mystery Falagun, Slovenian in 2010, gone in 2000. Listen, the United States has never benefited from FIFA's corruption before. And it feels like we've been left out of that party. If this is our taste of the corruption and all the corruption is, it's just overturning

a suspension that should never have been given in the first place. Who, by the way, one foot note

in this, this is kind of crazy. The VAR official's name is Juan Soto. Oh, the guy that buzzed down in the referee is literally Juan Soto. Interesting. And so he got on the horn with a Brazilian ref who's been under investigation and his own league in Brazil over the years. That guy just known as being a bad ref. So, okay, if it's corrupt that we have our strike or back for a foul that, yes, probably a yellow card. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or not, but it was not reckless.

It was not he did not go in recklessly. It should never have been a red card to begin with.

“If that's what absolutely, if that's not used reckless, if that is corruption, then I guess I'm glad”

to be getting my first taste of corruption from FIFA because it seems like everybody else in the world has benefited from FIFA at some point except for me. So, people will argue against some of the points you said that the mistakes that were made on the field were made on the field. This was all off the field afterwards, which I agreed like the red card should have been a red card to begin with and they illegally use VAR via AR, by the way. It's just, I thought that the one year

that we did pass interference in some replay was bad. The VAR just slows everything down. It's just fucking crazy. So, yeah, I apologize absolutely nobody. I don't give a fuck. This is awesome. Decorruption potentially benefit us. Yes. Is that sick when that happens to your sports teams? Also, yes. That's what I'm saying. I kind of want to apologize to any Texas tech fan that was getting grief. This is because listen, this rules are like, yeah, the Alabama judge that let an MBA player

“come back to school for a little bit. It is good when it benefits. It feels good. That's what I'm saying.”

It's like, I felt this go against me before. So many times of FIFA. It's good to feel just, it's nice to win. This must be what it feels like being a chief's fan. Yeah, exactly. Or a fucking sick. Yeah, it feels awesome. So the timing on the suspension being suspended is even wilder because they probably could have done all this last week. Instead, Belgium just practiced for a week. Like they were going to go up against the United States with probably

together. And then now we get our true striker back. And so now the formation that they just practice against probably not going to be what they're going to be facing on Monday. It is a little funny though that, and I'm so happy that Balguin's back. And he's a very important part of the U.S. men's national team. They are treating him like messy. Like the Belgium is is so scared to play him. It's like, dude, don't be such cowards fucking play him. It is, yeah, yeah, it's Balguin's got

them probably got the best ego boost ever right now. The fact that the entire continent of Europe is now banding together because they're scared of this one guy whose mom was, was too pregnant

“to fly. Right. So I think if we're doing like who gets the credit for this being overturned,”

I would say 50% goes to FIFA for doing the right thing. 25% probably goes to Donald Trump. For picking up the phone to try to impress his son and be like, Baron, I got your favorite player back. And then 25% goes to everyone on social media that retweeted the side by side graphic of Balguin with messy stepping on the back of that guy's leg and being like, this was a red card, this was absolutely nothing. I think FIFA, I do think that FIFA saw the memes. Do you think this might

be the first meme overturned red card distinction in the history of the world cup? And we've got memes.

I've been following along all these people like being very upset about it. I actually have a few there I wanted to read. Also a little credit to Davy Pitch for being the first to have the breaking news. You did report it. You did get the ball rolling down down the pitch. The what happened with

“did Ronaldo have a couple red cards going into this tournament? Yes, we got to, he did have”

a suspension going into the first game of this either you might have even been suspended for the first two games. Yeah, because we've got the world cup, but then those were that suspension was suspended. Yeah, we've got we've got the memes like the meme warriors. Thank you for your service meme warriors every single one of these tweets of people crying. I've just seen the what about these. And it's just all of the suspended suspensions. Now it doesn't happen for a red card that you

got in the world cup. That you, that's never been like overturned for the suspension to be suspended

for a red card that was earned during an actual feeful world cup game. It's just like qualifying games or the international friendly said the fair play rules have picked in for it. So when you see those lists, yeah, Ronaldo was suspended for the first three games or two games of this world cup under the under the old rule, but under the new rule, where it's good to have your superstars playing in the world cup. So the more people watch it on TV, FIFA stepped in and said, hey,

we got to get rid of this. Yeah, all right. So I just realized I got blocked by, oh, this is sad. It's a British fan who lives in Chicago, a cub Rachel British baseball fan. She called us Bollocks. That's very mean. Bollocks, I've utterly fucked it there. Any respect they could have gained from performing well at this world cup run by the corruption of this balligan, nonsense, proper corrupt, Bollocks. I'll say it's right now. I still respect our team in our country.

I respect to good use of proper corrupt Bollocks. Pears Morgan said, imagine if another government and world leader did this to disadvantage the U.S., my response to him was simple. We would literally just sit in our air condition houses and apartments and probably play college football 27. I actually think that Pears Morgan, it takes a lot of nerves for Pears to say that. Yeah, like the

“U.S. has been proper ball ecstat these world cups time and time again. And we, I think we said”

on this show, memes that we're trying to find the conversation that we had. We, anyone that understands how FIFA operates and how our government operates knew that this was primed to be. The match made have the most controversial, like underground cloaking dagger, world cup built off weird negotiations and and and tit for tat bribery. It was like it was always going to be like that. Now that's not saying again, I would just want to go back to say that even though that it was a controversy

that we had the suspension suspended, he should never have been suspended in the first place and

he's a good guy and a good player who all intends to purposes is just like a, you know, exemplary dude on the pitch. So it's not like he's out there injuring people intentionally. All we're getting is just our, our best players to be able to play in a game. That's right. We're not, we're not asking for the world here. Yeah, our government in FIFA caught eyes at the bar and they're like who it was always going to be like from this is hot from the, from the group stage drawing. Yeah,

this, yeah. This is from Max Scott. Any US fans bragging about this are complicit in US state interference in the beautiful game of disgraceful dark day for football. I'm going to brag this

tournaments that all, this has not been the best world cup ever. Yeah. That's the America effect. We did that we made this in Mexico and Canada. Yeah, a little bit. America. Canada is having, yeah, we can't it up. Well, I mean, we're the last ones remaining. We're, yeah, of the, of the, of the, of the come, conca, conca, yeah, no, come, Canada United States of America in Mexico. Yeah, it's really all gotten to the knockout stage. So I do want to give some of some time to say what Belgium's head coach

Rudy Garcia said. Okay. I think we have to hear both sides. He said I didn't know that at the world

cup the fifth of July is actually the first of April. Ha, it's April fools. That's a pretty sick

“burn. That is, you have to admit like, okay. All right, Trump might have met his match on this.”

Mm-hmm. What else do you say? We're not defending the national team or Federation. We're defending football in integrity. Yeah. Okay. Did, dude. It's so, it's so good being on this side of it for, for once, getting to laugh about it all. Zach, it feels great. It just doesn't make much sense how everyone who's also benefited in the past from similar, if we're going to use the corruption word, they just forget all of it ever happened and they're like, how dare you disrespect

this graceful, untainted game. It's like, well, that's just not the case. We had thousands of people

that died as slaves, building stadiums in 125 degree weather in the middle of a desert that's never

going to be used in the rest of the history of the world. And again, they moved the entire tournament to a time that it's never played. Yeah, just for just for the money. And before that, it was Putin's World Cup. Yeah. And then, not next time, but the time after that, it's going to be Saudi Arabia's World Cup. Correct. The, uh, here's another one. This one, maybe Laff, Alfi. Uh, Shadow Alfi said, this makes a mockery of the whole tournament. If the US men's national

team win, Belgium will have every right to feel cheated. Meanwhile, the USA is victory by their best ever generation of players. We'll forever be tainted by accusations of favoritism and corruption. It's bad for everyone. Wrong. I'm not, I'm not going to put, I refuse to put a nashricks on this. Also, what, what, what world are we, like, why is Belgium feeling cheated that he's not, again, he is, he's a good player. He's an important player. He's not like, he's not the best

player in the tournament. If you are, uh, a, a Belgium, if, listen, listen, listen, meet Belgium real

“quick. If you're, if you're a man, you want to be, you want to play the best. If you want to beat”

the best, you got to play the best here. If you want to be the best, you got to beat the best. What, what, what is this crying about? Oh, it's not fair. You guys were going to get the favoritism and, and, and, and the corruption going your way. Now you're upset that it's going the other way. Like, like, what the fuck, they, they use VAR illegally. And it was not a red card. And it wasn't a red card. It was a terrible call at the time. It was a terrible call. Now, okay. Now, PFT, we have to win this.

Now we got to win it because we have the entire world praying on our downfall. And yeah, I will have a tweet ready that shows that I'm hacked, maybe by like a Indian money crypto guy, but still, we got to win this game. They want us to lose so, so badly. We have to win this game. And preferably win this game with Balagan scoring five goals. I need two braces out of them. Double

“brace. Five. Five goals would be set for a scope. Yeah, I think that, um, we'll first of all, we need”

Portugal to win. We need Portugal to be Spain. Okay. And then shout out, I can't go for it. He's my goalkeeper. I just said that we, for one day, if we want to be the best, we got to beat the best. He's one day. He's not the best. Over and over to the go. So we have, I want the opportunity

to take out the best Ronaldo. You mean Penaldo? Yeah, the goal you got. Best has to first knock

out goal ever. I don't want to be like Spain. It was Spain's not a good soccer team. They, they don't not a place soccer in Spain. Portugal, they are the true kings of the Iberian Peninsula. I need Portugal to win. I'm not going to worry about that game. And then then we have to take care of business against Belgium. You got to just play the, you got to play the team in front of you. And then listen, if we beat Belgium, let's say Spain wins, we'll just get Spain's best players suspended.

I'm okay with that. We'll just keep doing this. I don't care. Set the trend. Someone put it perfectly. Someone, uh, a Michigan fan was like, I brag about Michigan's national championship every day in my life. There's no asterisk. And this is all your team. It's like, if we, if we, we're getting way ahead of ourselves, just win Monday. There will be no asterisk in my mind. No, absolutely none. It will be full bracks. And if we had lost

without ballaganda, uh, asterisk city. Oh, the most, yeah, Belgium. It's very funny that like, uh,

incredible memes that it's been very funny to watch. But in terms of the journalists that I've been reading, I don't think they're fully ready for, like, how we can twist the rules and not care. No, they don't, they're not ready for that. Not all. And, and they're not ready for us, like, we, we could be in me more. I, I got, I got deep into the, the ugly underbelly of the

“censor chips that they're putting inside the soccer balls after those games on Friday. Um, I think”

that was the, uh, those Croatia Portugal, right? Uh-huh. Where they had the, the little graph that

showed up for the first time. I'd never seen that during a soccer game before. But they've got

the chip in the ball now. And the censor tells you, it's supposed to be, like, whenever even, like, a piece of hair touches the ball, you get, like, a little reading on it. So they use that to call a guy on, on a Croatia off sides, took away a goal that sucked. Portugal, Portugal ended up winning that game. And I am convinced that they just stole this goal from Portugal. I've become convinced now that the bump that they have on it right there is actually the header that takes place right after

and that the censor wasn't synced up correctly with all the cameras. Right. And, um, I, I, I, I read, like, all these scientific paper, I have no idea what I'm seeing. But I did hear that the guy in Croatia said, it might have hit my hair. And then in the FIFA rule book, there's a part that says, hair is not considered for an off side's call in the circumstance. This is exact circumstance. Oh, I took from what you just said is for, for the rest of the world, B, B ready, okay,

because what PFT just proved, there's nothing more dangerous than when we start to read. When we are like, hey, we're going to read some shit. We're going to read up on these things. You got problems, because we don't read as a country. But when we do, oh boy, watch out. We don't read books, but I will read dozens of posts. Oh, all platforms. Except what it says show more. I usually don't read it. But I still read the posts.

Yeah, I'll read the start of it. I read the posts. And then I'll click if it's like really long, and there's a bunch of different paragraphs. I'll just skip to the replies. And then I'll hope that somebody in the replies has distilled what was said in the original post until like a picture. You know what I'll do is I'll bookmark it, and I'll come back to it at like midnight when I'm

“trying to fall asleep, and I'll read half of it and fall asleep to it. That's how much I'll read.”

But I'm so deep into this chip and the ball thing, I've become convinced that it's all bullshit. Yeah, the sensors. Yes, they're there. And yes, they pick up on stuff. But there's no chance that it is perfectly lined with the 50 cameras that are running concurrently in the stadium on live TV at any given time. That also is, so let's talk about some of the other games. The Croatia Portugal game was

incredible. Like, there's some a lot of these games have just been so much fun to watch because

you get a team down and the pressure they're putting on in Croatia was just like just kept on knocking at the door. That was bullshit just by the fact that the hitting his head maybe even is the hair of his head. Like, I know it's the letter to the law, but like, how can we not say, hey, look, he's not like, it didn't actually change his trajectory at the ball at all. And like, okay, the guy's like, that didn't, that's what I'm saying. That should just be like, hey,

that was a sick goal to end the game and it wasn't truly off sides. Let's fucking count it and go

“to extra time. So that's what I'm saying is by the letter to the law, if it hits your hair,”

that doesn't count. Yeah, you're right. It does. Like, that should have been an allowed goal. If there's a like a specific rule that says that in the rule book that if it hits the hair, that does not count towards off sides. So it should count. I actually, you know what, I want to see what Hank says about the ball against suspension. Do you think he's happy? Oh, definitely. Where's Hank memes? Where's Hank memes? I don't know. I've been asking that all

then. Yeah, where's Hank? Where's Hank? Where's Hank? Where's Hank? He's happy. He's probably happy. I think he might be upset. He's got to be, no, I mean, well, he doesn't like the US. The other great game was, Kate Verde versus Argentina, which was that there's some games in the World Cup where it's like, hey, this team is going to park the bus. Keep Verde was just going for it. Yeah, it's like to to detriment of themselves where they're like, fuck it. We're just going to keep trying. That was

an incredible game. The Mexico England game was insane. I feel like there was a hundred moments in

that game that were just awesome. You know what? Brazil lost. Have you ever seen how they used to do penalties? Like in the in MLS? Oh, yeah, that's came out. They had a good one. When they ran, they had a completely different penalty shot where they give you the ball at midfield. It was XFL shit. Yeah, and they'd say, okay, it's one on one. You and the goalie just go for it. And then they changed it. I think after like one season, the guys who get just like smashed too. Yeah,

I actually like they should not do this for a shootout, but for for penalty, it's awesome. Yeah,

call. Let's see what he says. Oh, but yeah, these games have been insane. What's been your favorite

game? To tell you, my favorite game. Just watch it all in play. Hey, Hank. It's a PFT commenter from part of my take sports podcast. Your life to take on part of my take. We wanted to get your reaction to balligans suspension being suspended. It's great. It's great for the country, great for the team. I'm excited to see him play. I'm excited. I'm excited. He's back down like it on yellow once again. You don't see, you say you're excited, but your voice doesn't sound excited. You okay?

Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to get to Tahoe. Oh, oh, I didn't know that.

“You stuck in New York? No, I've been testing you guys like the only thing you've been responding.”

You didn't know that for sure. Oh, shit. I don't know that. I forgot. I did know that. I did know that.

This stuff kind of piles up on me. Do you think Max was a little bit of a bright Zilla? No, what do you mean? I don't know. We're just joking. Well, good luck, Hank. Hank, we did them out rush more of weapons for today's show. Wait, we don't say anything because it's coming up. It's coming up. What would your honorary pick be? I don't know. I don't have to think. Okay. It was easy. Okay, nice. Nice. All right.

Hank, Hank. You said you're going to maybe not get to how are you going to miss the game tomorrow? I'll be probably in the air. Oh, okay. Okay, but you're probably able to watch it on the plane, huh? You'll definitely watch it on the plane. I don't have a plane booked right now, so I will say. But but you're not going to sleep on the plane, right? You're going to watch the game. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really have no answers for you guys. I wish I had any type of answer.

Do you know where Belle, could you could you point out Belle, Jim on a map? Probably not near Germany. Okay. Yes, that actually. Yes, that checks out. You nailed that. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Hank. All right. See you. Bye. Yeah. No, he crushed that. Yeah, right in your Germany up right there. Right, right. He's in that imaginary line. He's on. He's on. He's on the block. Yeah, he's got it. Uh-huh. Man, Belle, Belle is so mad. That was so mad.

“You got a fucking mad dude. Yeah. Listen, Belle is just play us. That's what we're asking.”

Right. We're not asking for any special favors. Just play us head to head and soccer. Right. And stop, stop pitching and moaning. Like getting lawyers disgusted. This is what happened to the game we love. Let's just put our best 11. You're best 11. Yeah. And we'll see what happens. Uh, so the other games Holland is incredible. That was an incredible performance beating Brazil. Um, Norway onto the next round. Brazil just they stink now. Yeah. I mean,

they have not, uh, they've not been good for the last several world cups. Namor, I didn't realize

had never played into game past the quarter finals. Yeah. Now one year was because he did break

his back during the world cup. Um, but I, I was shocked to hear that I just assumed that like every other Brazilian player they, they'd played in the semi finals before. Uh, Brazil just looks sad.

“They weren't like Norway was the better team. Yeah. And how about, uh, Brazil, Brazil had some”

Brazil blew it. They had probably three to four chances that were like, how do you, they missed a penalty. Then they missed that like basically wide open goal. Brazil should have actually won. They just let him hang around long enough that they didn't like they had some incredible chances that they fucked up bad. I just, I guess I just judge Brazil in a different scale because Holland and Norway overall looked like they were the more cohesive team. Brazil, they play like a very

sad form of soccer now. But they had, which I don't like, if you want, Brazil chances. You got to watch Brazil doing the the Samba soccer shit, the Hogo Bonito. Yeah, and they're not, they don't Hogo Bonito anymore. They might not be Brazilian anymore. They're not. They had some chances. Yeah, no, they, so the last five world cups, uh, they've lost to France, Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, oh, sir, six, Croatia, and Norway. Yeah. And this also made me laugh, uh, from no escalators,

great Twitter account. He, uh, he said, so you're telling me that Brazil won five titles many long ago. Last made the title game in 2002 and since his largely starred in Cartoonish losses is Brazil Indiana basketball. They might be. Yeah, they might be. Yeah, Brazil out, uh, what other, what other big, I mean, congrats to Ronaldo. You, you had a, you had a moment where you thought that the messy was going to lose Cape Verde. And I, we didn't text during that game. I knew what

there was a moment where Messi was going to lose the Cape Verde. You were so excited. Not excited. I texted you right after I was like, you're not today's act. In a vacuum all by a side, the underdog story that they win that game is unbelievable. And it was, is painstaking because you show right after the last goal, he runs up, meet with the family. It's all smiles. I love you. This is for country. I don't think they should have paned back to the same section after the loss.

Mm-hm. I don't like what they do that. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was a tough way to go out. They were, when it went to extra time, it was like, and they got scored against. Everyone was like, okay, this game's over. Argentina might score two more in extra time. And then they come back down the field and just fire that fucking laser beam into the far post. That was, it was such a cool moment. I'm bummed for Cape Verde because they were right there through the end.

And they did it by not playing scared. Like they were, they were on the front foot for most of that

“game. So that, I mean, that's, these games are so awesome. That's why this is the best tournament”

in sports. Like the world cup. When it's in your time zone and you can watch it at the time that that God meant you to watch sports, there's no better tournament in the world than this. Yeah, it's, it's been so, so much fun. So much fun. Like I said, I was, I, I know the, the way I judge it

is that, uh, what was it Saturday or, no, it's today. On Sunday, the first game result, I think they

kicked off it three o'clock central time around noon. I was like, where's my world cup game? Yeah, I was kind of, I was like, what, what do you mean there's a world cup game right now? I need my world cup game. I need my next. So I'm fully addicted. And yeah, it's going to be, I think, I think Wednesday is the first day. We don't have any games. That's going to be a tough. And it's going to be a real, let me double-check that because that's going to really suck if that's the case. That's a harsh

reality right there. Wednesday. Oh, no, Wednesday. Oh, yes. Oh, shit. Nothing Wednesday. Nothing Wednesday.

“And then we're on to like one game a day. Wednesday, y'all start break for baseball a couple weeks. Okay.”

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“shambler, are there any big snubs for the all-star games that you were upset about?”

No, I didn't even see the roster's yet. Oh, okay, great. So dope, starter. Yeah, that was, that was crazy. I know, PCA, not a starter. Which I know he had a bad month, but he also had the best month, like ever. But listen, you can't get, I don't know, all-star game, like, do you really get that upset? You shouldn't know.

I was like, I think Max, Max was upset last year, and I think I was like mildly upset about say it, but I don't think it's tough to, tough to, to, to be like really upset. Do they say how to guys leave halfway through the game? You see, what the percentage of the fan vote is? I don't know. I'm just hoping that we get the, the, the home run, we get the home on Derby again, you know, the, the shootout and Schwerberg does it in front of his home crowd, which would be sick.

That would rock. They did the swing off. Yeah. Yeah, the guys built swing off was incredible.

And then the home run Derby's also going to be better, right? Yeah, not perfectly fixed, but better. Better, because they're going back to the outs. Mm-hmm. Right? It's going to be better.

Yeah. Shane, what are we looking up here? We're on this. We're so on. Sorry, I was, I was looking at how Aaron judges on the roster. Yeah. That one's weird. Well, what were my looking at them? Sorry.

“That one makes sense. What is the format officially of the home run Derby this year? Is it swings?”

I, I think it's back to out. No, I think it swings. Look it up. Goodman is your memes. I think it's, you know, if it's just outs, that's a good way to do it. Exactly. I say something. No. Also, the fan vote is 50% of the sand. Wow. That's a lot of fan vote. Yeah. Quite a bit of fans. You're especially like, we, the fans should not have that much power. That's a lot of power for the seats. Mm-hmm. They'll just expect to the fans. Do you remember old school when you had to

fill out the punch out card? That was cool. Yep. That was awesome. You made one those in? I think they actually might still have those at, I actually don't know. Do you mind a grocery store? Did you find it? Yeah. Shane? Yes. It says instead of trying to hit as many homers as you can during time hours, participants will start each round with my number. Oh, memes. I don't like the rules. I say it again. Swings. So each round you get a certain number of swings. I like it when you

get 20 round two you get 15 and the team again in the final round. Why don't you like that memes? More home runs. I feel like this happens. I get it. But remember when it became the last few years, it became that you didn't even get to see the home runs because the ball wouldn't even land

“before they were hit the next one. Right. That's why it's, it's good, but it's not everything”

it should be. It's better. But we can do even better. Yeah. Majorally based. And they get like tired. Yeah. Yeah. I like, I don't like putting caps on home runs. That's why I like the outs. So you can just keep hitting dingers until until you're exhausted. So in this one, it's like no

matter what, okay, you get 20 swings in the first round. And so if you're last five swings or

home runs, you're still done. So stop. I don't like that. We're going to talk a lot with windy about MBA free agency, but LeBron's decision is looming. I think it's going to be clean. Do you guys agree? I think it probably right. Can you play winter golf outside in Cleveland? Or is the winter too? No. I don't know man. Well Rich Paul said, it can't play around outside golf, right? Or indoor. Indoor said, he said indoor as well. Fair. Yeah. I don't know. You think it

where is it going? I just think he goes somewhere where it's, it's nice out year round. Maybe Miami. Yeah, he's going back to Miami. I like about nine months ago, the Bron Ward, the LeBron nine elites, South beaches for the first time and like maybe six years,

Miami colored way. Ever since eight hours, I always get connected dots. He's going to finish out

Miami. Damn. You're something about, I'm thinking about it right now. No validity, but just something. I'm thinking about it hard. I hate it. Well, I mean, Miami wouldn't be the worst. The Warriors would be the worst. We don't, we don't want them to go back to Miami. No, I don't want

“them to. I mean, I think he's got to go to Cleveland. I think that makes the most sense.”

It's a happy, isn't Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah, it's home, sure. Right. And look, they're traveling a lot. Like how much golf is you going to do during the, I feel like LeBron's not good enough to be golfing every day during the season. Well, not, it doesn't matter if you're good enough. He just got the bug. He's got it. He's got the bug. And I was saying that there's probably 50% chance he saw Mad Dog in the vagina with a golf ball. He probably watched it. He probably just

chuckle and bookmarked that. He thinks so. I mean, I think it's in his algorithm. I think he's just got everywhere. He's got the old golf out. Oh, algorithm. All right. Anything else, national sports podcast for who's back reminded we're going to Tahoe this week. We will be in Tahoe. Max and Hank will be back. They're, they're in transit. It sounds like Hank's got some travel issues. We didn't know about. Yeah. It's kind of a shock, but sucks for him. At least he'll, he's going to

watch in the air. I miss our boys. It's going to be fun. Show we should be awesome. We got some great interviews lined up. We got some great content lined up. So it's going to be, it's going to be awesome. All right. Let's do who's back the week and then we'll get to our Mount Rushmore of weapons and then windy. Who's back the week? I mentioned earlier, Twisted Tea Summer's here. Twisted Tea Summer Party Pack. The Twisted Lemonade is so so good. I have one over the weekend. I also can't tell you the

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Oh, where's Hank? Yeah. Where is Hank? Did you listen to the show on Friday and you were like, what, why did he keep it saying that? He was looking for anyone. No, yeah. He was just trying to deflect the entire time. Yeah. Well, my who's back the week is Mitchell Robinson. Because he's signed with the Celtics. So memes. What are what are your comments about Mitchell Robinson being on the Celtics? I don't want to pull a LeBron, but I kind of figured he was going to go to the Celtics.

Just because he does fit perfectly with how they play, which is what live by the three, die by the three. And if you die by the three, Mitchell Robinson gives you the opportunity to get

second and third chances, just nonstop. So he's just going to get it and pass back out.

All right. So turns out he punched his truck. He punched his truck. As he was a family member

“had gotten into an accident, he was upset. Hit his truck. You should see the truck. Yeah. It actually”

rocks the truck is awesome. They're also good. I know how much he loves his truck. He would have to be very upset to ever hit his truck. Yeah. He'd do you think you apologize to the truck after? Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah. True love. Yeah. True love is who's back because we had Travis and Taylor getting married at MSG and Max and Max also got married for the third time. And it seemed everybody got invited to the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey wedding.

Dean Blindino was on the guest list. Thousands of people. It made me laugh so hard. Like Dean

just showing up. I can't, well, let me first say you got to in this line of business.

Just put your hand up when you're wrong. I'm going to say I was wrong. I do think they actually are dating now. Don't need to pee and pee. They got married. So I'm going to count it. I'm going to take it. You're on the board. Or on F. Yep. I'm going to see it right now. Yep. That's crazy. They actually get the whole wedding and MSG. It's also crazy to invite a thousand people to... Yeah. Like a thousand person guest list. There's so many people

“that you must not actually know they're getting invited to your wedding. And that's kind of weird.”

There's no way to know 500 people. There's no way in how you know a thousand people. How

matter you, if you played even a snap in the NFL and you didn't get invited, you got to be like,

what the fuck happened to me? You're my chopped liver? Yeah. I don't know if you asked me to name a thousand people that I've met. I don't think I could sit down and do that list. Wait, zoom in. Let's see this. Okay. So this is the, some of the attendees. Adam Sandler was the official. That's awesome. Good job. That's very cool. I'm assuming that was Travis's choice. That's very cool. Okay. Let's all pick someone out of here. Oh, the Dixie chicks were there. Aren't they just

the chicks? The jujur Smith was there. Jules. Yeah, Brad Paisley. Brad Paisley was there. Call of you, Chuck. Yeah. Fullback. That's huge. George Kittle. I mean, yeah, the T. E. U. I think Greg also was there as well. The chain smokers were big chain smokers guy. Yeah. Wayne Gretsky, the great one. Yeah, there's no John Lovitz. I made that one. Oh, that midler. We should just Seth Myers. Okay. Good for all these people. Contact you Friday wedding Friday weddings are okay. Listen, if you know, if you are

looking at a big ticket venue like MSG, probably save you like 250 grand going Friday as close a Saturday. Can I say something without getting in trouble with the Swifties? Absolutely. It's something that I saw. I did not come up with this. I saw it. I saw someone make this point. And I want them to be married for a very long time. I hope that it's forever and forever. And I actually think this is a fair game because part of the lore of Taylor Swift as she does, the numerology and

the secret codes everywhere and all this stuff. And it's like, people love doing this finding, finding whatever thing means. Someone did point out that she might have had her wedding on July 3rd so that if they ever do get divorced, she'll just release an album and call it Independence Day. There would go hard. Yeah. I did not come up with that. I did not come up with that across my eyes.

“Yeah. I think they're going to make it. I think they're going to be married for a very long time.”

I think it was a magical forever. I think I'm married forever. They'd be very forever. They turned into a castle, the inside of a... Is that true? I think so. I think they built it out into some crazy. Oh, that is cool. And then there were people that were freaking out just waiting outside and then the cops brought them like donuts, which was kind of ironic, but they hand them

freaked the fuck out because they were like, it's kind of like we got invited to their wedding 'cause they're throwing food at us. Yeah. And those are just regular. Probably regular. Completely.

Street donuts. Yeah. If they did also donate $26 million to local charities, which is very cool.

Well, she mentioned that. That is good. That is good. That's a ton of money. That's a beautiful thing.

“If there's a thousand people out of wedding, you got one shot in order to, or do have tray, right?”

Oh, like it comes around once. You got to just sweep it onto the plate or like a thousand people. You get one. One people. But okay. Think about it. That's like glass half empty because I think all of us here. Well, maybe maybe I'm just speaking for myself. Just kind of camp out right where the the servers come out of. Imagine camping outside of where the servers come out of for a thousand people. The mass quantity of appetizers that you can get yourself into.

Holy shit. That might be traffic jam. Oh, it's a situation would be incredible. You think they went open bar or do you think they know it's definitely like it was probably like coupons for two. Yeah. To drink to soft pretzel. Probably have to wait in line at the like love kiosks that they have set up there. Do you think they had a 50/50? Maybe 50/50. That would be sick. Maybe I'd be all in on this.

“Maybe the beer guy and the hot dog guy that's walking up and down the aisle. How”

out of place would we feel if we were at that wedding? I mean, I felt really out of place at the dog show at MSG. So I imagine I would feel extremely un-welcome at it. Well, it's funny because we saw like I saw these people get invited. We knew we know a bunch of them, but I feel like we know not them that side of them. You know what I mean? When I see like Greg Olson all you know, suited up and looking nice and cool hat and Greg Kitton and George Kitton look in the same way

and like you know Edmund always looks hot. So I know them when they're like fucking around with us.

They don't where the friends they don't want to tell anyone else about. It's like they're at work right now. Yeah. And they do this. Yeah. Yeah. But good for them. Congrats. Love us back. Love us back. Paul McCartney saying I want to hold your hand for the first time since like 1965. That's pretty cool. That's kind of cool. That's a flex. Yeah. It's a pretty big. That's a fucking awesome flex. Yeah. Okay. Well, love us back. Uh, or at my who's back the week is, uh, dude's rocking because all

I got two of them. I got two dudes. One are goat Joe Chestnut 18 out of 19, 66 hot dogs. It was super hot. It was like 92 degrees at Coney Island. Uh, he was just he's just a

“man amongst boys. Can't be stopped. He's what was second place this year? I think Bertoletti had 50”

which I feel bad for him because he is really, really good. Any other era. Yeah. People would be saying this is the greatest eater of all time. It's brutal. Just Joey Chestnut comes, just kills everyone. And it still shocks me. I treated this during the competition. But because, you know, 10 years ago, I was in it and I was around Joey Chestnut. We've met him a couple times and hung out in a couple of times. He does, he eats 66 hot dogs at Coney Island in 92 degree heat. He goes home, takes an app,

and then just goes and gets fucked up all night. Like drinks 20 drinks. I don't know how he does it. It says one man championship parade every year. He's an absolute beast of a man. And then so dude's rock number one was Joey Chestnut. Dude's rock number two was the story about the missing England fan who was accidentally found in a bar in Spain. Yeah, two weeks later. So this is an unbelievable story. There's a guy is England fan who left England. Michael Hewitt 65.

It looks a little bit like an old Sean McVay. Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to see his shirt off to tell if it was actually Sean McVay. Yeah, but just like, you know, yeah, over the hill Sean. Yeah. So he left England to go to the World Cup. He was going through Spain. He lost his passport and his phone at the airport in Spain. Just started going to the pub every day and getting fucked up. Meanwhile, his whole family was looking for him. Thought he

died because they thought he would went to the US. Turns out he was never going to the US and let's

see how to tick it. So he was just sitting in a pub in in Spain. Looking at tickets being like, maybe I'll go, maybe I won't until an off duty police officer saw me as a leads United fan. They did the leads salute and then the off duty police officers like, hey, wait a second. I like your family's been looking for you for two weeks. He had no idea. He was just having the best time of his life. Listen, Barcelona will do that to you. That would be a great place to just kind of

lay low for a while. Yeah, he was posting pictures while he was getting fucked up in the pub. Yeah, he had his, he did have his passport. Sorry. He lost his phone. He's at Mick had lost his phone soon after arriving in the Spanish city. He was blissfully unaware of the desperate appeals to find him.

go to the embassy or let us know. So basically what happened was he was posting pictures from this bar.

So it's not like he was no out of contact with everyone. He just he was in contact with the internet.

“Yeah, not with his family. And this is honestly like this is the European equivalent of getting”

of the sector me at the sort of March madness. Yeah. Where's I? I'm going to, I'm going to chill out for a while and just watch basketball. This guy's like, I'm stuck in Barcelona. I'm just going to get fucked up and watch soccer every day. It's crazy. He even, he's so obsessed with soccer and in England. He, his brother called him was like, hey, we booked you a flight to come home because we all thought you were dead. And he's like, I can't fly home on that day, England plays.

Like, what if I get what he doesn't want to be a Hank in the, in the air when it's team's play. We should, if this guy gets the world cup final, he should, he should come to America. Yeah. Yeah. What an awesome. He's just been hanging out getting fucked up. All right, Zach. My huge back a week this week is going to be early Holland because early Holland showed all of us that when he's not preparing for the world cup, he's just like the rest of us. He's a dude's dude.

He let us know that his favorite thing to do outside of soccer is get together with the boys at home through a lowland party. Do you guys see the land party? No. I'd not see the land party. Land party. So you guys familiar with land parties? I am. Yeah. So land party. Land party is just when you guys come have a sea board at my house and you both bring your own Xbox. Oh, how he has. He's like, this is what we able boys like to do. He's got the

Xbox mini fridge there. Wait, so this is just their playing Xbox next to you. Yes, everybody's about their own TV and their own game and they just play in like how many guys you're playing the same game either co-op or get together, but you're all in the room. Close system connected to each other. It's masturbation not sex. It's a circle journey. It's a circle journey. Yeah, but for for gaming. And then he said top three is a Minecraft GT and Coldudi. So

just when you feel like these, some of these guys on TV doing reckless things aren't just like you mean. They remind you, hey, we should regular do that. How about a game? That is awesome. Good for you. I'm a gamer song. I read that he's a big Rob milk guy. He likes Rob milk and his alarms act. You know, his alarm is on his phone. I'm not familiar. It's the Champions League theme song. Wakes him up every morning. The child. I might not pivot. You might maybe pivot. Yeah.

You think it's a wake up with that? Or maybe round ball off too soft, but maybe I change

“some of the decibels. I never know. I do nervous about a flight tomorrow. I think about any time we”

travel, you sir. If we're talking about it. Do you have another who's back? Other who's back in the week to pivot off the how the college test a little bit was a bad man's trugs because he took down that got eliminated in 20 seconds. That's crazy. We should get Deutsche that. I bet your Deutsche could probably beat him. I think it was like 22.1 maybe it was the exact time, but it's badlands booker. Yeah, badlands booker. Yeah. Yeah. Peace. Anything we missed for the booth?

Jaden Daniels. Oh, yeah. What about him? He's beefing with his new receiver. No, the the Washington commanders have released Brandon Ayuk today from the contract that he didn't sign

with us and was never going to sign. Yeah, things got kind of weird over the weekend.

So Ayuk was saying like talking shit about Jaden's mom, I guess. And then they unfollow each other

“and then Jaden posted a picture of like Kevin Durank given the birds. Yeah. So I think that should”

probably put it into the Brandon Ayuk to the commander's rumors, but I was never really on board for it's been weird for quite some time. But yeah, I hope he gets whatever help he needs. It doesn't seem like he's in a good space mentally and it seems like even his best oldest friends have tried to help him and he just burns those bridges too. So I hope I hope he figures it out and yeah, it's been really strange to watch. Yeah. And then I have one other Caleb's giving

jerseys to Pope Leo. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. I'd one other Tobias Harris would be fourth all time in NFL career earnings. So NBA contracts are back. Oh, he's made $330 and he's too shy of Tom Brady. Holy shit. That's awesome. Holy shit. That is nuts. God bless America. Holy crap. That's that's insane. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. We're about Kirk Cousins. I feel like Kirk Cousins might be right in line with that. What are the top four? Top four are Matthew Stafford,

Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and then Kirk Cousins. So he's just above Kirk Cousins. Got it. But Kirk,

you never know. Mike in another bite. Kirk, Kirk's got one more. No, don't kind of

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while I have some Twisted T's and watch you grill. Could be a big way for the burgers. Yeah.

Big week. Okay. Mount Rushmore Time. So Max is three month wedding. It's finally kind of

complete. You're putting in the movie, dear Hunter. Yeah. It's been like that scene except just for an entire month. Yeah. That's all that it's been. It's his life has been half wedding. He's been a bridezilla. Let's just all admit it. He's been a bridezilla for the last three months. But he is

“finally, I think the wedding is almost over in the fact that he's missing this show and so is Hank.”

So we were sitting and we were kind of game planning what we should do. And I made the offer to Zach. I was like, Hey, you can pick the Mount Rushmore if you don't talk to Hank. And then I said, you know what? Meems. Do you mind sitting out this one? Let's just go monoimonoimono. So Zach, me, PFT, all three of us. And then we're like, you know what? Let's do a Mount Rushmore. We're none of us have any idea what we're talking about. And we will not use any Google or any help

from anything, not even a simple, hey, what, what, what are some of these? And the Mount Rushmore is going to be the Mount Rushmore of weapons. I would say we're not weapons guys. Is that fair to say? I call a duty. Zach might have. Yeah. Not really. I'm more of a weapon's delivery system, guys. Yeah. I know I know planes. I know Hank. But outside of that, no, I'm not. I have used weapons. Yeah, I've shot some guns, but it's not, it's, it's, my list got got really tough after about

we were all pen and paper. My list got tough after about six. Yeah. And I had to start going outside

the box thinking all over the place. So weapons. Who has first pick Meems. That'd be PFT. Oh,

okay. That who goes second. That'd be you. Okay. Then Zach. I love having first overall pick in this draft. They got to be honest with you. Okay. This is huge. Okay. So ready to get started? Yeah. All right. Good weapons. Mm-hmm. Add a bomb. Okay. Nuclear bomb. Nuclear, I want it to be nuclear bomb as my weapon of choice. I changed everything. Okay. I got a question. Mm-hmm. Right off the bat. Is there a difference between a nuclear bomb and a hydrogen bomb? Because I

have both. Oh, my list. Hydrogen bomb is a type of nuclear bomb. So I can't take hydrogen bomb. Hydrogen bomb and atom bomb are slightly different. What's the new age one that we have that's like so sick? That's like makes the- because you're talking about the one we dropped in Japan. And I want the one we got now. Now I'm talking about nuclear weapons, which are that income- that's everything from fat men and little boy back in the day to the Tsar bombo that Russia

developed to whatever we got on the tried and missiles right now. So just nuclear bomb. Okay. So I- I can't do any hydrogen. No hydrogen. I still nuclear weapons. That's a- I-

“I'll take a nuclear bomb. Okay. All right. You know what? I pick- I think I might just go out of the-”

outside the box for all my picks said. Because I really had nuclear bomb was kind of the only one I would have really good about. Everything else I was like maybe and I did have nuclear bomb and hydrogen bomb. So that was my one two were taken just like that. That was my chemistry teacher in high school told me a joke when he was trying to get us to learn the periodic table. What do you do when your parents come home and interrupt your party?

What do you do? Hydrogen. Mm. Nice. Yeah. Okay. So what does this mean? What do you pull

up? What the fuck does this mean? It's just a lot of different- This is just the most powerful

nuke. Okay. Got it. Got it. Tsar bombo. Yeah. Big boy. That was 1961. I feel like we've got to get better, right? No. We kind of stopped going bigger because it reached the point where we were like, "Hey, we're probably just going to destroy the earth if we make him any bigger than this, so we drop Tsar bombo." So Russia did that on remote island. That's like way up north and Russia and then now you can't go back to it ever again. And just to do, that's kind of selfish. Just to do it,

“just to drop one. Just to be like, "Hey, look what we got." I think it was so heavy that they had to”

design like a brand new plane that could possibly carry. All right. You know what? I'm going to do

And I do have one that I like. I'm going to go with the sniper rifle. That's a good pick.

Sniper rifles, awesome weapon, especially if you're playing video games, just sit out. That's frond upon, right? It's great pick. No. I guess a different game modes. So all snipers off the board.

“I think so. You got the hydrogen and nuclear chip. Why did you have a specific type of sniper?”

I think the bear 50 cows probably the one. Yeah, that would be the one. I got it. It's great pick. Yeah, great pick off the bat. Okay. What do you got? I'm going to go with... You see, it gets really, it gets tough. Is there more fun to you for fun gun to use in video games than

the sniper rifle? No. Would you headshot someone? Yeah. On real feeling. Yeah.

Really, nothing else like that in life. In the game though. In the game though. In the game. Okay, I rail. Weaponless. I rail. Okay. I'll take A.K. 47. Okay. All right, Tommy. I didn't know um is that and is it technically in a salt rifle? A.K. 47 is a Russian assault rifle. Russian rifle, very durable. Yeah, it is in the side. Right for out in the water. Get right back up. Works fantastic. Okay, so we think about taking A.R. 15. I was going to just take a salt rifle.

A.R. 15, which stands for assault rifle 15. I mean, it means that I were discussing early. I don't know. Everyone knows that. Yeah, I don't. My entire list is just very generic terms. Okay. Fair. Sorry. So we'll just let you say that. We're between nuclear bomb and a form of an assault rifle. 75% of my list is gone. So what did you get guns? Is it how it was working?

“Did guns? Guns were to go on one one. I think. Yeah. That was the only thing. Okay. That's fair.”

Yeah. Okay. And then when we're pick, I'm going to go with the force. The force. Whoa. Yeah. From Star Wars. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Good. Because I, I, like I said, I've run out of actual weapons here. I have a couple of things. Is the force just magic? I think it's not for interpretation.

Zach, do you know that this side of the room is never seen Star Wars?

Worth watching. I saw the second half of. Definitely worth watching. Was the last one return of the Jedi? I don't have the numerical orders like that, but I think that's what it had. There's third one, which was technically the sixth one that came out. I saw the second half of that. And then in terms of that, I did watch Phantom Minus. I just forgot in about it because it's sucked because they were just like debating taxes. The entire movie. Yeah. I've seen the original ones, but I haven't really seen

“like the Disney ones, the newer ones. Okay. I'm going to go with what I think is maybe more powerful”

of a weapon than the nuclear bomb, hydrogen bomb. I'm going to go with big perfect tits. Okay. Let's go pick up some weapons. Yeah. I'm just like, what are you going to do about that? Nothing. You just, you become a puddle. Yep. Right. The nips that launched a thousand ships. You could, you could, yeah, right. Like, who's sort of war? Hell in the dark? Hell in the Troy. Well, Joan of Arc do. She was burned at the stake. Okay. So that was close. What do you say, Shane?

Shane's in the booth because Max is a Bridezilla. Shane's a Google big perfect tits. Now we're just looking at new Shane. There are nudes in the in the room. Yeah. Good job, so I don't, and some of those aren't perfect. No, those actually come out all perfect. Actually. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're all really good. Thank you. They're really, really good. Keep screwing. That's a good job. Okay. All right. Let's stop screwing. Max just got Wally piped big time.

Yeah. Wait, did you have safe search off? It was on. I turned it off. Okay. All right. Good. Oh, Max. What a fucking pussy. He had safe search on me. Okay. PFT. Okay. Hmm. Okay, across that sniper rifle here. Okay. That was the pie chart of our weapons knowledge. I think a salt rifle sniper rifle and nuclear bomb had to be what? 90% of it. It's a lot of it. All right. I'm going to go with a classic one. I mean, probably more people have

died by this than just about anything else could also be used to confer nighthood onto people the sword. Okay. The sword. Yeah. The mightiest medieval weapon of them all. I had knife on there. So I like the knife. You can pick too. I feel like sword is just like, that's a longer knife. Way bigger knife. So I'm sword in front of knife. Yeah. Okay. You have two picks. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go with Rocket Launcher. That's pretty good. Rocket Launchers are

pretty awesome. Don't fire too close to a wall because then you'll hurt yourself and also don't hit a barrel with it because it's just going to blow everything out. Okay. This one. You guys can tell me if this this passes this enough test. This is one I'm personally very scared of just in general.

Yeah. That's good pick. I mean, that's great pick. Yeah. I don't understand it at all.

“I just feel like at some point they're going to press a button and we're all going to be fucked.”

And every cell phone is going to be jammed. All the stop lights are going to, you know, go green. Yeah. Everything's going to like all the hospitals are going to stop working. Cyber warfare scares the fuck out of me. Do you ever think about just like what if there was a button for all the like way mo cars and somebody hit it? And they all just started going like a 100 miles an hour driving in circles everywhere. Yeah. Like that would be pretty terrifying. Right. Like

like if you told me that we were going to get hit by cyber warfare or like a bomb, like a bomb, you die pretty quickly. Cyber warfare. It's like you're it's probably going to just become the rules of the street and I I get to survive that and you might not even know your dead. Like what if it just turns us all into a simulation? My kids by the way, they stopped and pet one of those robots today.

And I that was the first time I was like we might be gone too far. It's like the normalization.

They were like, oh look at the robot. They're like, what's its name? Salma. Fuck names of robots. Salma. They take us over. They had one of those robots that was porn people coffee in the San Francisco airport. Just give double birds. I will say that I saw there was a robot that does your laundry for you and I kind of want to buy it just to I don't want to buy it to do laundry for me. I want to buy it and put it in the office and fuck with it. I don't think it can handle

stairs because it was just like I saw that same one and it seems like stairs might be a problem for it. We should get a robot just for mincey and just see how quickly because that actually might be our last defense. That robot was kind of his brain verse robots. Like if you get a robot butler and you have

mincey being charge of it, we might be able to disable all the robots. Or yeah the robot might just

off itself. Right exactly. Yeah. And it just be like mincey wears the nearest magnet. We would be

“be like remote control like he's driving the robot. No, I don't know. I think this robot just does”

your laundry for you it's like 17 grand on it. It also looks like it did it. No offense to robot but like the guy was moving slow as fuck. I thought that we were way past that point in robot making too when I saw it. I was like I expected it to be walking like a human. Yeah, it was just kind of like gliding and clumsy. If mincey actually mincey only has like three shirts. The robot would be like probably kill itself out of boredom. Yeah, true. The folds are also like incredibly mid.

Like you wasn't a very good fold job. I wasn't impressed. No, wasn't impressed. That was 17. No. Okay. You have two picks. I will take. Wait, do you have two picks? Yeah, you have two picks. I'm going to have to switch it up here. I'm going to take a Kimbo Uzi. And then I'm also going to take. Wait, I actually had Uzi on there but I didn't know if Uzi's were cool or not. Does that mean like dual wheel? Yes. Okay. Is that, is that, is that, can I take a

Kimbo Uzi? Yeah, you can take. Yeah. Okay. And then I'd also like to take, I'd like to take C4 plastic explosive. Okay. Yeah. Okay. These are all weighted heavily towards called duty. It seems. I think Wade heavily towards really fucking some shit up. Yeah. You know, yeah, a Kimbo, not a bad move. Hmm. I might have fun. But like if you have two of them, that you can't do anything else with your hands. Yeah. Yeah. You can't really reload, but, you know,

“that's where they got the 30 round 100 round. That's what the Uzi is good. That's one of the”

plus sides of the Uzi is a small ammunition but so many bullets. Hmm. All right. Can I ask me there's a question? It's not about he's not going to be able to pick. He doesn't know my list at all. Means should I go regular weapon or stay off the book? Stay off the book. Okay. Uh, dual threat quarterback. All right. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, I might have fun. I'm just thinking about weapon. Again, I don't know weapons at all. So I just started my mind wandered. I have

some more honorable mentions that I think are kind of in line with that. I did have Denard Robinson. Yeah. Listen, his position was listed as offensive weapon. Oh, really good dual threat quarterback is a problem. I had women, but the tits was a better pick. Yeah, tits are, yeah, a little bit more safe. Yeah. I got one more, yeah. Yep. All right. I might, you know me. And you know how I do Mount Rushmore. And I feel like I'm, I'm fighting myself mentally to keep myself from

fucking up my ground. Yeah, with weird pick. But you're already picked sword. It's sort of a good pick. Yeah, in like 15, 20. I mean, just for lifetime stats on the sword. Yeah, sure. I've got to respect as one of the ghosts, OG. Cannonball still there. Cannonball still there. I am going to go with Musket fists. Oh, okay. Yeah, good fist. Nice beat down. Everyone's got him. Everyone has weapons that they're born with. They die with for the most part. Mm-hmm. All right. Good draft.

I did have Steven Sigal. I had Rambo, and I had Kimbo Slice R.I.P. Yeah, he was weapons. I'd flamethrower. Ooh, flamethrower is good. I couldn't, you guys maybe help with this. I'd drones, but I don't really understand drones, but I just see a bunch of Russian dudes laying down in the field pretending to be dead and then getting blown up. It looks like hell. Yeah. That does feel like the weapon of the future, and they do like the drones and birds now. Yep. Terrifying. That, that is a really

“terrifying weapon. I think they like fly those drones around too, like tethered to Ethernet cable,”

so they don't lose connection. So all these fields just have like tons of like internet cables all across them from just guys just ripping drones all that. Yeah. Right. Which is a terrifying

existence to live in. And they have the, like, all of Ukraine looks like the, the first or third-base

foul line now with the nets. They just have nets everywhere to try to catch them to try to trap the drones. How balls? Yeah, but the thing is the drones can go over them. No, no, the thing about drones. When they're coming down, like when they come down the bomb, they have nets on top of like the streets to catch the drone. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I had landmines. Oh, those are mother-in-law missions. I had, I don't know what the specific

name is, but I just know that we did this with a ran the bunker buster. Yeah. That was the pretty fucking bunker buster school, the Moab, the mother of all bombs. That's a big one. I had red turtle shells. Yeah. Mario Kart. Good one. That's the one I thought about taking,

but I was like, I better be safe and go fist. Yeah. Everybody's got a lightning would have actually been

the pick. Lightning. Yeah. Lightning's going in the pick for sure. Nunchucks. He weaponized weather. Yeah. You sure can. Yeah. Cloud seed. COVID, Eusea had torpedoes, but those are only subs. Yep.

“Kind of a dark one, but really no defense against this weapon. Suicide bombers?”

Hmm. Tough one. The vest. Tough one to stop. Yeah. Sky just walks in. Boom. Your dead. Everyone's dead. I think you're wearing a skinny, like a sleek vest. Yeah. New A. Suicide bomber. Do you work at like Ernst and Young? I don't know. For my other ones that were off the outside the box, black mail, good weapon. It's a good weapon. Yeah. Nostalgia. Nostalgia is a hell of a weapon. People just, yeah, that's all people do now. I think it's more of a drug than a weapon. It might be more of a drug,

but then it is, people are just hitting you with nostalgia all the time being like, hey, did you guys see especially fourth of July? Yeah. These just like made up pictures and like this was this was America in 1985 and just like a scene from my sandlot. Yeah. Actually, that's not fucking hot moving. But also, wasn't there, wasn't there like you felt friend of mine? Yeah. Was there actually sandlot a lot? Huge recession then. I don't know, or maybe it was like

1975. What's the, or 1976? Wasn't that like when they were head to have a lottery to get gas? Yeah. It's like like the last couple of years prior. Like shit sucks then. Hmm. There's any any point in history shit has sucked. Well, the, the church is kind of focused on the other style. Yeah. The best part of your history in like the everyone's nostalgia, the best part,

the sweetest spot that you can always hit is just when that person happened to be like 14 years old.

Yeah. That's when the world was not even for it. Maybe like 10. Yeah. 14 is like I've a raging boner and I have to jerk off every day. Yeah. 10 to 14. Yeah. That's a, that's a sweet spot. You know, that's like pain. Yeah. We've all been there. It's uncomfortable. Yeah. I'm just like, dude, I'm a man now. And I, what men do? They jerk off. You trying to walk in the grocery store. It's like where do I put this thing? Yeah. I'm exact with this. Exactly. I drive and I jack off.

“That's what I do. I'm 15. Belts and Malinois. Those dogs. Those dogs are absolute weapons.”

Pipples. They freak me out. Yeah. Pipples for sure. The silence pp7. It's a good pick. That's a good pick. The BFG 9000 picking odd job. Yeah. That's fucked up. You just, you're just a loser person. You're just a loser person. Is that doesn't understand our sick reference there? No. I missed out on it. If you were really nasty a goal 9, then you would be like, hey, I'll be jaws. Yeah. You can be odd job because jaws was like 7 feet tall. A job was like 5 feet tall, so it was harder to hit him. Okay. It was up to a distance in life. Yeah.

See, maybe you give the home that you're friend with not as well accuracy. You give him odd job. Yeah. Maybe if they've got like the mad cat controller. Here you can see this one. Like you didn't have an N64. Yeah. And it's like he's got no chance. He only plays when he comes over to the house. Yeah, I think. All right. I had the A9 sidewinder missiles. He'd seekers. Those are pretty cool. Okay. And the GAU cannon on the A10 Warthog, the tank killer. That's the one that's got like

the shark mouth at the front of the plane. Well, like Gatling gun, you know, though. Yeah, it's a gun that goes back. That's a good one. Exactly. Uh, I'd TNT. Claymore. Yeah, RPG spear gun, bone arrow spear gun. Yeah.

yeah, no. We got a spear gun. Remember how hard it was to shoot? But if you got a guy who's

like that with the spear gun. Yeah, I guess. We talked about earlier, but like just a net just a giant net in general is a great weapon. Yeah. Think about it. A bulldog lawyer. Yeah. That's a that's a touch weapon. Yeah, like just an eagle weapon. Unbelievable legal team. Just being like, I'm going to sue you for

“everything. That is a weapon. People use that all the time. Flare and Balagan. Yeah. You should have been on”

there. Yeah. Laser beam. Laser beam is a good one. Laser beam is a really good one. What else did you have? Uh, Mac 10, Gen 5 Glock, uh, rocket launcher, UMP45, also Kimbo. Uh, we did the women. Uh, I'm not getting their mind. Uh, bone arrow. We did that one arrow. Uh, no, needle or halo needle. It's like done the shoes needles. Yeah. Yeah. And there's one that you weren't going to do. Oh, religion. I was going to say, no, that's a good one. I was thinking about that too. It's tough one to bring up,

but it is a weapon. Yeah. I could definitely recognize. Yeah. And then a syntax grenade, which is like a sticky grenade. Yes. Why did you go with C4 over Claymore? Uh, because the plastic explosive, it's so malleable. Like guys, he just like, I like the covert obnice of the plastic explosive. Okay. Like if you're on like a, like, more of like a spy mission, you just pull

“it out, blow something up Claymore. You have to more of like a, you know, they're coming with”

the Claymore's. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because they're just out there. Yeah. And you can see him, the plastic explosive seems a little more sneaky. Oh, we missed Tommy gun. Tommy gun's a good one.

That's good. Oh, brass knuckles. Yeah. brass knuckles are good. That was always feel like they

fucked people up. Uh, also, um, throwing stars. Yeah. Those are cool. Nunchucks maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Nunchucks cool. I don't know. Baseball bat. Baseball bats cool. It's good one. Yeah. Baseball bats are really cool. Speer. Do we say grenade? I think Zack's a grenade earlier, but I don't think you think it before we start. Yeah. I don't think I took grenade. Yeah. It doesn't miss grenade. I'm going to get pick. Yeah. Grenade feels like a close doesn't count, Zack. Flash bay. Yep. A

really loud siren. Oh, like like one of those crank ones. Yeah. But like one that just never stops. That would drive you insane. Oh, yeah. That would be nuts. I don't know. Muster gas. Oh, yeah, muster gas bad. Like bio weapons. Yeah. Bio weapons. Oh, bio. Oh, bio real bad. What about just, um, disease, you said COVID, but yeah. I mean, think about the, think about, you know, part of this country, you know, just hand out blankets, right, full of the common cold boom, should change.

What about, um, just words. Yeah. Oh, I was singing the pen or the pen. Yeah. The pen is brighter than the sword. Mm-hmm. True. Uh, memes. We means memes in chain. Anything that we

“missed? I think a lightsaber. Oh, lightsaber. Yeah. It's my neighbor's better than the force.”

That's not real. He picked the force. Yeah. But with the force can't, doesn't the force delete somebody with the lightsaber? It could. You could just be like, hey, I'm going to move your lightsaber out of your hand. Yeah. I like to have your so cool. I had lightsaber as well, but it does feel like the force could just like give me that and then take it away. Right. You're a knife. I don't know. I feel like a knife would have been a good pick. But like that doesn't

look great next to some life. Yeah. I had a knife on there. Uh, jinks. Jinks is a powerful weapon.

Yep. Just jinks someone. Uh, gold scar. Great. Yeah. Fortnite. Oh, gold scar. Ballistic knife from black ops. Also good pick. Uh, LT inside 10 yards. Love that. And that was my, if someone had taken a duel throughout quarterback, I would have maybe gone, you know, a great catching running back. It's good one. It's a, they are weapon. And then my personal favorite, favorite, the, uh, the trebuchet. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, accident is in donuts.

Lasses is in donut. Combination. Yeah. No, no, take yourself. Yeah, you shoot yourself. We're on a reverse. Uh, yeah. You're talking the mic. Do you get talking the mic? Eat. We're on a ver as what? Cater. Cater. Okay. Cup fast ball. Charlie, they've got other weapons. Stuff occurs. Range. The giant hand from Jack S. Yeah. Let's see Jack S. Sweek. Meves. I fuck that up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Don't trust memes. Meems.

I don't care if he won. I mean, the nuclear bomb is like that was tough. It's tough to come back. The bomb was half my pick. Any a rocket launcher. I had no nuclear bomb and hydrogen bomb. Yeah. I did have a pretty good round. I just need the big, the big teddy boys to come out. Yeah. You know what? I I think I had the two strongest picks. I might have had two of the weaker. Sorcerer is not a great pick. Thanks. You can get dominated now. You see, I was a sword. You're like, that guy's got problems.

Sir. Yeah. Right. That's what you say. You think it more like myth, like mythological sword or like an ingest sword. Like, like, samurai. You're thinking like, mythological. There are not mythological, but like, I was thinking like medieval. Yeah, back in the day. William Wallace is very famous. Shane Mill. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like nights. Yeah, medieval times. Listen, if there's just a shitload of people that love big tits or afraid of cyber warfare, with China, I could be in. I mean, business. Yeah, pretty much everyone. Yeah. If they're honest with

them, so I need to start with guys come out heavy. All right. Good, about Rushmore, we'll be back with the regular teams on Monday or sorry, Wednesday, but good about Rushmore, boy. It's not good. Yeah,

“and that not exactly our expertise, but I think we showed out analog to then didn't Google anything,”

didn't look that thing up. Just opens off a dome. Sorry to, all the military guys listening, who are like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? Yeah, but also thank you for your service. Yes. Thank you for your service. We did that just to make you feel smart. Before we get to Brian Windhorst, he's brought to you by our great friends, over at Neutrophil. It is Tahoe Week. It's chill week. We're going to embrace a nice summer reset. And if you're here isn't performing like you used

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our good friend Brian Windhorse from ESPN, the hoop collective everywhere. He was on TV for what felt like, you know, 48 hours straight for the MBA free agency. And the dust is set of the little bit, so we wanted to have Windy on to talk about it. Now, Windy, I have a question if you write

up the top. Do you want to do the hard stuff first because PFT hates you right now? Do you want

to just get that out of the way? Yes. All right, let's do it. All right, let's do it. And when you open like that, how can I stand here? I don't hate you. I want to because I've said public, I do not hate you. I think that you had a momentary lapse in judgment when you were reacting to some news that just broke and we say things in this business and sometimes we look back on things we say and we think, you know what, that was really stupid. So, okay, I'm going to write it down. You don't hate me.

Yeah, do I hate you? So you got him very triggered one day. He was walking around being like, Windy's, what the fuck is Windy saying? What is Windy saying? I like what is he saying? Well, yeah, I mean, like, like I said, we say things in his business and I'm willing to extend grace to you and say that maybe you'd like to walk it back and say, maybe maybe that was a stupidest thing I've ever thought or said. Is that the greatest things you can do is extend someone grace?

“Yeah, okay. Before we even start, I just want to say I appreciate it. That's why I love you,”

Wendy. Please double down. The trade young contract. Yeah. I bet you didn't think you were going to have to answer for the trade young contract. But your position is what? My position is that it is not the worst contract in the NBA. As you said after the deal was done, you said you don't think that they could trade it unless you attach the number one overall pick to it with everything that we saw in the last week or so. I feel like it's safe to say that this is maybe not an accurate take that you had.

You still might not like the like the contract. But to say it is the worst contract in the NBA, I think that's hyperbole and I think that you deep down would understand that. And you're sent what the circumstances have changed. Why? Well, the circumstances, so if you saw like they were able to trade Paul George last week. Yeah. He got traded. But another trade

contract is two years longer and like a hundred million dollars more. And trade is also much younger

and healthier than Paul George's. Oh, true. Yeah. Okay. True. He's also a lot shorter. I mean, how long how far do you want to go down? Oh, sure. We're going to go dollars per inch. We're going down.

“I think I think, I think, you know, he has his issues for sure. And he has not, you know,”

lived up to some of the promise that he showed early on his career. But I think he's going to be a fine point guard. I don't think that he's, he's a arbitross around the neck of the Washington

what else are we going to spend that money on right now? That's absolutely an unacceptable reason to

“I would just say this like, um, in this current day and age in the NBA, um, and it's, it's”

those of us who are just immersed in it, like up to our eyeballs, it's the way we think every day and so many of the fans like their, their, their thought process hasn't changed yet. And by the way, we may be too far on the edge, but I say we as in like the medium cover of the league, but like right now, uh, you cannot afford to have a contract on your books. That's a massive overpay. Um, and there was nobody bidding that for trey, um, nobody, nobody bidding that number of, uh,

of dollars or years. They can say that there was, I just don't believe it. I reject the concept. And, um, I definitely upset the wizards by saying that they were very upset. And, um, even, uh, like, like the tray group, which you know, I mean, I gotta tell you, like tray young, they were trying to trade them for like a year, you know, and, um, it's not because he's a bad person. Um, it's not because he's a bad player. It's because, and this is the thing that we're

at in the NBA. Um, his contract number versus his production, the delta that existed there was

“difficult to live with in the current day and age. And that's the key part in the current day and age.”

Six years, seven years ago, if you had a player that was making higher than his production, it just meant that your owner had to spend more. And if you got to different layers of the tax, you'd like boy, that was really penal or whatever, but it didn't kneecap your ability to deal with your team. Um, like now, if you have a player whose production level versus his salary is that a whack, it like keeps your general manager up at night for like months on it. Right. And so it took

the hawks like a year to get somebody to take that contract. And they finally, you know,

they, they, they trade tray to it because they just couldn't get anybody in the league who looked to tray young. Again, not because of him as a person, not because he was a player. His production versus his contract. It took a year. And finally, a team, you know, they got off of it and the, and the team that got them now had the problem. And he opted out of his contract. And they had the opportunity to, to re, redo that. And they had, they were in a good position. They wanted

to trade to be their franchise point card. They were not going to draft a point card. I mean, it already, when they did that contract, they'd already decided they were drafting debonsa. Okay?

“So they were like, "Tray young is going to be our franchise point card." Okay? And here's the thing,”

though, they already promised him they were going to sign him when they traded for him. And the reason that they did that was because they needed him to not play. Yeah. Okay? Because if he had played, they might have won a bunch more games and they might have not gotten the number one pick. And so if you're going to be a free agent, the last thing you're going to do is like basically admit that, you know, say that I'm injured for six months. So they told him like,

"Tray, we're going to take care of you. Don't worry." So we're on the same page. We're invested in you. We're going to bench you. So they are, so Tray already knew he was going to get paid. And that's why he agreed to it. Now the wizards can't say this publicly, but that's what happened.

And so his agent did an amazing job because he got him traded to a team that was like,

"We want Tray young and we're going to pay him." And like he's going to be our point card. We're not even going to look at Darren Peterson. We're going to tell the investor in you Tray because we think you can be great. And then they got him to pay him a max. Nobody in the league wanted to trade him on a max for a year. There was nobody who wanted to give him a four-year max. Now I'm not saying an agent when come on here and say that that's a lie.

And they could probably try to prove me wrong. I just don't believe it. So that's my thing. It's not having Tray young as your point card. It's not in saying even six months ago we want Tray young as our point card. It's saying that I'm going to pay him $40 million a year for four years. And not only am I going to give him two and four years, I'm going to give him a player option on year four, which is just the whole player option for now I'm not on the MBA and it's probably

a little bit too deep in the woods. When I was a kid, two different guys got player options. The superstars, you know, LeBron James class and like the guys who were at the end of their careers who were playing for minimums and you could put, you know, they were taking like a huge discount and so you just give them a player option to protect them. You didn't give player options to everybody who walked in the door. Well nowadays everybody gets a player option.

Everybody. There's so many player options out there. It's maddening. That's a different topic.

young as a player and said, I've got to have them away from the wizards. I don't care what it costs. I don't care about the money that that it's going to cost. When he has a player option, it puts the franchise in such a bad spot because in two years you've not got to deal with it. Because in two years he'll be a year away from free agency and he can hold you up. So, whatever the wizards had to do to get the number one pick, I, in this particular draft,

I'm going to excuse you. So I'm not going to get on them about promising Tray young when they ended up kind of drafting Darren Peterson. Even if Pearson goes on and becomes like a superstar, I'm not even going to get on because they had to do it. They had to get the number one pick.

Giving him $212 million of the player option in this market,

I just, I thought it was a, I thought it was a poor decision and I stand by that. Okay. That's fair. A couple counter points. I would say that with the new draft lottery rules, having a guy like Tray young at that contract would actually be maybe more valuable of a trade piece than in years past where he, like you said, he would be good enough to make a bad team just good enough to not be in that bottom three, bottom four. So therefore, they'd be like in the sweet spot of whatever the next

new draft lottery would be. So let me just real quick, counter point that counter point. So you're saying that Tray young is good enough, no matter what to get to make you a play in team. I think you said that earlier. I did it in so many words. Yeah. Right. And is that a max,

that's, that's what you want to, a $200 million player to be? Well, by himself, I mean, we do have

other pieces around him that I think are much better than it's not like a Tray young team.

“That's what, so I think that's what I, what I like about it is because he's surrounded by a lot”

by and large, a lot of younger players that are on affordable deals, at least for the next couple years. Then after those couple years passes, and the backloaded contract that Tray has, at the very least, we're going to be in a spot where they're going to be in the first percentage, even if that were true. You were all cap in the last year. And if you were as bad as, the player, which he's got in the third trade price, you would start his contract hot,

even if you wanted to get in a max in the first year, you'd start his contract hot, and you would step it down, so that it's he aged, and your other players got expensive. You could, I don't even

agree with that, but even if you wanted to say you give Tray a max in the first year, then you'd

step it down, so that when your team goes up, then you would do that. There's no such thing as, it's okay to pay him a lot now because we don't have that many good players. I fundamentally reject that premise. I'm sorry. Okay, I think, can you just say that it's not the worst contract in the

“NBA? I mean, if you want to and the worst contract is what? I don't see who would that be. I mean,”

Paul George, pretty bad in bead. Paul George just got Jalen Brown, so fundamentally, that's not true. Joel in bead, not a great contract. Joel is a very tough contract. I just watched Joel in bead win a game seven on the road with a 40 point game or whatever. That's true. You can say that it's by the way, I think it's bad. If what you're getting, if where you're going is to get me to concede that I shouldn't have said, it's the worst contract. If I were to amend my statement to

it's one of the worst contracts, if that's what you consider a victory? That's quite literally all you want. Then I can't, I'm so sorry that there's a wizard's fan. You've been so damaged. Okay. That this is where you're going that you're going to say that's all he need. We only have one of the worst contracts. Yeah, but it's okay. But yeah. That's what you want. I'll, I'll concede that. Okay. That I should have said. Okay. One of the worst contracts. You can't own

wind here. Mass it up. You're a master at this at this profession. It's the best. I know you're saying, I am a little bit defensive about the wizards, but I also think that you can't necessarily fully judge how bad you think this contract is until we see Trey Young play with this wizard's young core. And then we can truly see how bad the contract. But even if he becomes a star and all star this year, you understand no one was offering him a four year max with a player option.

That's like it's not a sign of valuation of the player. It's an evaluation of the decision to give that contract. We might be looking back on this in four years and be like, that's the best contract. Hey, listen, man. If, if I, I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong,

“and if I, you know, if I believe that that's the case, I'll do it. Yeah. All right. All right.”

Good talk, Wendy. All right. That was enough enough. Enough wizards talk. Let's let's talk to man be a free agency. So yeah. I want to start with the dust is settled. Jail and brown trade. We were all shocked. Yeah. What have you picked up since then since Thursday of what the thought processes here? Because I feel like it was probably a toxic situation that Celtics had to get out of because they'd already jailed browned, you know, it just seemed like it was not sustainable.

of value that Jail and Brown was in the NBA. I just did not have a feel for it. And, you know,

“we have lots of conversations and we watch lots of basketball. We talked a lot to different people.”

I did not understand it. You know, what I did notice was after the Janis trade went down and went, you know, went to Miami's direction. I started hearing about what Boston was was asking for in trades and they were all of a sudden asking for draft picks. And I was like, now that's interesting because I thought Boston was like, you know, on the verge of still competing to win these drink conference. Like why would you, why would you be like asking for like multiple draft picks,

you know, and I started, you know, I was thinking two things. I started asking questions. I was like, well, maybe they have another player that they can trade for. Maybe there's another player out there

and the team wants draft picks for him. So it's a part of a three team deal. And so I'm first

I'm saying, well, what is that player? Who were they actually targeting? And who were they getting the draft picks? And as I kept having conversations, teams were rejecting, rejecting Jail and Brown,

“the offer is even for the draft picks. Like three and four picks, they were rejecting it. And,”

you know, notable players kept getting traded. Right. And none of them were Jail and Brown where the return could have been Jail and Brown. And it wasn't Jail and Brown. And I was like, man, like, some of these guys were getting traded. Like they could help Boston. Right. And they're not. So I was sort of like, as I was having the conversations and watching things happen, I was sort of processing it. And I just didn't understand his value was where it was. And so I started having

conversations with people. And like, I kept hearing the same thing from teams, where they were saying, you know, they were explaining about certain factors of his value. And again, this is where the nuance is tough. And this day in age. And I agree, you know, we've been such a sea change in the NBA that it's not everybody is totally adapted, which is that it's not Jail and Brown the player. It's Jail and Brown the player for his salary. Right. And you have these teams that are afraid

“of having him for three more years at that salary with the, with the, you know, the modifier”

that he was going to want to contract extension this summer. I talked to multiple teams who said, we just didn't want to be to get him in house. And then tell him we didn't want to extend him or are offering a pay cut. Right. And I was like, like, I was like, but I talked to several people. And I wrote even a story about this published on ESPN on Friday, who were like, we have lost the plot. This is, you know, I talked to one guy and he's like, how many times have we seen this, you know,

high school kids, international players, three points shooting rest. Like, we, we do this, you know,

somebody finds a lane that's successful. And then they go to saturation and there's always this tipping

point. The Darko millisitch moment where an incredible front office to Detroit pistons convinced themselves that Darko millichitch was going to be better than Carmelo Anthony. Right. Like that was like, like, that, that was like part of why David Stern said no more 18 year olds. Right. Because Carmelo Anthony is one of the best college players in the last 40 years. And somebody saw a Darko and said, man, don't, don't do Mars. Don't do Mars who had, who's one of the hottest

streaks as an executive when he built those Detroit teams. And, and, you know, the same thing, you get into a game like where you're bossed and you're shooting 65 three pointers and you can't hold the lead or whatever. And it just goes to saturation. And so like, I definitely have people saying to me, this Jalen Brown thing is a tipping point. Like, he is going to go to Philadelphia and he's going to be great. I don't know if the one that title, but it'll look bad. And then I've got

a bunch of other people saying, you can't have a 60 million dollar a year player who when you

plays on the court, the team gets out scored. Right. And, and it's not because he gets on Twitch. It's not because he says, I want to, I'm the best two-way player or anything like that. I mean, I don't think those are, I don't think the idea of him getting on Twitch and saying that this was my favorite season was in the plus reason. That's not why they traded him. And that's not why teams weren't aggressive with them. They just saw a $60 million player who wanted $70 million, who probably

would have wanted $70 million a year. And I am totally trying to to grapple with it myself because even as all I do all day long is talk to executives this time of year. And I just didn't understand how low the value was. And I'm still in some ways stunned by it. Yeah. What about the reports of a little bit of friction between him and Tatum? Like, the personalities just didn't match by the end. It was just a situation where where one of them was going to have to go no matter what.

Do you, do you put any stock in those reports? I mean, they stunned my conversations with the parties involved. That was not a driving factor. The driving factor was Boston felt like it could

I mean, I saw some reports that like they were both in Con last week. And like they were both there. And they like didn't even hook up even though this stuff was going on. I don't know. I'm not there. I don't know what was on their schedule. I don't know anything about that. But I do not think

“that was a driving force for this in the Celtics. I think that they looked at the numbers and said”

we can spend our money more efficiently. And you may come back and say, well, Paul George makes the same salary. So how can you possibly say that Paul George at the same salary is better off than Jalen Brown. And I would say, listen, man, I agree. I don't see it either. I'm just telling you the way that I think the Celtics, you know, made this decision. And so tomorrow, Monday, I think Brad Stevens and their owner, Bill Chism are going to come out publicly. And we'll see, you know, they've had days now

to formulate a case. And we will see what they say. And I'm going to assume they're going to take questions and have to defend it. So we'll see what they say. Now, you can tell me this is stupid windy because I don't fully understand it. But it does feel like we're in a weird spot with the

NBA and how the CBA is set up in the second apron and all this stuff where teams are basically

like they have to give these max contracts to these guys. Because Jalen Brown is wherever you think of him, he's what's a top 15. He's probably closer to 10 than 15. But let's say top 20 player. You're going to have to pay a guy like that. Right. But then the second apron is so punitive now and teams are so scared of it that you just basically set up a league where I know that they want parity. But I think the NBA has been the strongest when there has been dynasties and you have

“those storylines. But now it feels like a team cannot keep their stars because you have to pay”

him. And then you've got a ship in the soon as you get into that second apron in a guy that's owner does want to pay it. So did they kind of screw themselves with this? So it depends on what you

mean by screw themselves because they have an 11, they're one year into an 11 year, 77 billion dollar

TV deal. Okay. So you would say, why aren't they going to hurt themselves by their popularity? Well, I guess, but maybe the ratings will go down five or eight percent or whatever, 12 percent. But they're guaranteed 77 billion. Checks going to clear. So like on one hand, like the owners, like this is the perfect time to do this because they knew they were going to get paid. And like just at the end of the day, the owners, you know, there's 30 of them. Right. And there's more

middle and small markets and there are big markets. Right. So what's good for the overall health the league is probably to have the next play, the lakeers and every finals. Right. But if you're Cleveland, Milwaukee, Indiana, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, like you've, it's one team, one vote. You've got more power to do that. And if you, if you're armed with knowing that you're, you're securing your earnings for 11 consecutive years because that's going to drive the league revenues,

“then you can play hardball. And that's what they did. And so the average player”

salaries are exploding because of the, because of the influx of money. Like, you know,

there are guys now signing for 70 million a year. And we are 80 million is coming. Like it's,

the money is guaranteed. Like eight, there will be, there will be players in the next couple of years where there will be years on their contract, where it's 80 million. Okay. So you can't say the players are suffering financially. But they are forcing player sharing. And really the second apron is is, the way the teams are acting, they're acting like it's a hard cap. Nobody has been in it. Two consecutive years. They act like they are afraid of it because of some of the stuff

that they, they're into it. These teams are, their actions are telling that they're, that they're acting like a hard cap. And so they have to do player sharing. And here's the other thing. It's kind of like, it used to be that if you had a really good player, you just gave them the max. Nobody got 85% of the max. It was like, you know, hand grenades and horse shoes. If you were close to being a max player, you just got the max. It was, like, nobody was like haggling over, you know,

that last 10%. Especially if you were a young guy, like, you know, 25 or younger. If you were anywhere close, like, like, what you see in that, like with Jalen Durin, three, four years ago, Jalen Durin signs his max extension on July 1st. It's done because even though he had a bad playoff, the, the, the pistons look at him like this guy is 22 years old. He's already in all start absolutely forgiving on the max. Well, they're playing hardball. They're playing hardball now because they know

they can't give a guy 25% of the cap if his value is 20% of the cap because that 5% is ultimately going to screw you. That 5% or even worse. Let's say you pay him 20% and he ends up being like a player who's valued at about 18%. And now you may say this is trivial. Oh yeah, what's trivial

these, everybody's negotiating harder, which again, is why the wizard is giving the max, what caught the link by a surprise PFT, sorry to bring it back to that. So now now there's going

“to be negotiation on everything. And if, if Jalen, here's the thing, Jalen Brown is coming off”

finishing sixth in the MVP voting. Second team, all NBA, definitely one of the most productive in terms of raw statistics, seasons of his career. He absolutely elevated the self-toxic without Tatum in there. He was the lifeblood of their season. And if, and you've got teams out

there who look at him and say, yeah, he's probably more of a $35 million player, not a $57

million player. And like people are like staff and heads like, what are you talking about? How could you possibly say that? But I'm telling you, this is the way these teams are operating right now. And I don't necessarily see it, but this is the way they're operating. All right. We'll get back to Wendy to second. Chill week is here. You know what that means? No schedules, no plans, just more than good stuff. Chevy Silverado makes that possible. There's a reason Chevy is called the heartbeat

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“right Paul's whiteboard. I love the whiteboard. You like to like, can we do Wendy's whiteboard?”

I don't have one, but I will just say that I love whiteboard humor. Like I love thinking about big decisions and thinking about like what was going on in the meeting. Yeah, I promise you have the whiteboard. Yeah. We people, I love that. Because the whiteboard, before we do the whiteboard, can I just ask you, you go ahead. I'm just going to reset what the whiteboard is. So, so Rich Paul, he was on a podcast. I think with Max Kellerman. Yeah. And he had a whiteboard of, it was like a

mind map or brainstorming sheet of where LeBron might play next year. And it just said LeBron in the middle. And then it had lists of lineups. I think like seven or eight different ones. The things that he could realistically sing him going to play for. The whiteboard is just, it's my favorite edition of the NBA, yeah. I need to see more whiteboards. How I love Wendy, if let's say LeBron doesn't pick a team for another month, my question to you is going to be,

how many times are you going to get asked day to day where LeBron is going to go play? Oh my god, this weekend has been blessed, but it's about to be over. Yeah. Do you get asked all that like everywhere you go? Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. That's my way of not asking,

but first you get a play. You guys know as podcasts, there's a special you guys do it so many times.

You know that feeling that's like a warm blanket. You go into a podcast and you have like a piece of gold content. And you're like, man, we are going to, I mean you guys are some of the best in the business and being creative. I'm not saying that this is sort of, you know, lowest common denominator, but when you're like this topic is going to carry us through this podcast, it's going to rate and we're all going to get involved and like this

is perfect. It's kind of like, you know, sports radio back in the 1997 and a coach just got fired. You're like, oh my god, maybe I can't wait until three to seven o'clock because boy, those phone lines are going to be lit up. And where do you might not rush more season in the summertime? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. This is what Rich Paul was like going, you know, because Rich Paul's podcast. He's like, oh my god, this is going to be great. He's like, I could go over

10 teams. I could go over it. But by the way, the best podcast at Rich Paul could do because he said that 27 teams called who were the three who didn't call. I've tried, I've tried to to figure it out. I mean, I can speculate. I don't know. Give us your speculation because we're our speculation is lakers and then spurs because they got Tobias Harris, so they don't need

“the Brian more. I think the spurs definitely would call. No, no, they'd signed Tobias Harris. He's”

basically LeBron. Oh, really? It was like, it was announcing that Tobias Harris. It was like a

spurs account. Being like the spurs are officially out of the LeBron. So you've fixed out of this side to buy it. Yeah, good to know. All right. So what are the three teams? Blakers? Well, I can't, by the way, I don't know. I wish I could tell you. I knew I would be at this point. I would be surprised if Memphis. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. That's fair. I don't think I mean, I just, I mean,

Right. But I don't know if Memphis is going to call, but maybe they did. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I, like, I actually was like laying away class and I said, what were the three teams? Well, the other two that you thought of. I mean, are we counting the Lakers or no? Well, course. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, although, I mean, it would be fun to call. Like the Lakers technically did call. Right. And want to schedule a meeting. So his rich is rich counting that in the 27.

Like these are that like, this is the podcast that I want because rich might count the Lakers. Yeah. You know, I don't know. Like, um, like, do you think the Wizards called? We got, we got the tray. We're good. I realized that. Listen, I think the words are playing. You kicked the tires. Sure.

If you're playing tray young and LeBron, a combined 50 million. Yeah. That's great.

That's great management. So I will give you that if they, if they want to average it down like that, that would be awesome. I just, I don't know, man. I don't know. Like, I, I, I, I can create all kinds of scenarios. But Rich walked into that and he's going, I can do 10 teams here. And there's no chance to cross concern 10 teams. He's probably considering two and a half. Um, but, you know, Rich is like, we're going to, Max, you know, Max Kellerman is hosted 10,000 hours of radio. You know, Max knows how

to make it, like, let's go, baby. I think if, if it was up to Rich, he would do another podcast next week, and he would cut the list to five. Yeah. And we're down to five. I like this. This would be, you know, amazing. So, um, yeah, I, I, I got, I don't think there's any work. Like, I, I think look,

“here's the thing. It's really a unique situation in NBA history, okay? Because you have a guy”

who is basically admitting, I will play for a vastly below my value. And not like a 10 million

dollar player saying he's going to play on the minimum. Not like, you know, a guy who could be getting the mid-level somewhere, who's like, I'm going to go play with a team that can win. Like, literally, in all NBA level player, top, uh, still a top 15, 20 player in the NBA, who's like saying, I'll play for maybe the minimum. That's the one thing that Rich, again, has instead, like, he said he'll play for less. But does that mean $15 million full mid-level?

Because if that's the case, you cross off a bunch of teams. Does that mean the $6 million mid-level that's just for the tax paying teams? Okay. Because then that, because if that, because if he's willing to say yes to those two, that's the thing.

Or is he literally willing to play for the minimum $4 million bucks? They haven't articulated that yet.

But if he's willing to play for $4 million bucks, it makes the scenarios crazy. Right.

“Why is he going to Cleveland? Can we just stop the sherry? Come on, Wendy. That's what it looks like.”

Yeah. Because he's, he's having this nostalgia time. He's been in, he's been in Cleveland for, like, 10 plus days. Akron, I should say, not really Cleveland. He does come to Akron every summer. And I saw there's a lot of, you know, there was an event over the weekend where he was like, in a, like, it wasn't really a club. He was in, like, his place where he hosts families. It's this center in Akron where he, it's a lot of, like, a family center that has a lot of family

programs where they just basically turned it into a club for the night. He wasn't at a club, like, you know, partying up. He was at this event for his foundation. And he'd had those of that event for his foundation every year. And he generally comes to Akron every year at this time. However, the fact that he is in Akron and doing all this stuff and hanging out with the calves from 10 years ago and hanging out, they had, like, a little reunion of his

high school teammates over the weekend. Like, obviously, I was not there. I saw you play boyguard for him. Yes, and I did not make $41 million a year. No, but so who is there? I could have played Poincar. The assistant GM of the calves, correct? Yes, who is this high school teammate? That's interesting. I mean, come on. And are they keeping a roster spot open for Brownie? Well, I mean, like, they could get, I mean, I know I saw that report. Like, it's, it's not, like,

Mark Stein, he's like one of the best in the business. Like, it's not Brownie makes $2 million. Any team in the league, if they, like, it's not any team that acquired the Bronn would be able to open a roster spot and bring Brownie in. What about the other way around though? What if, what if one team wanted to, like, really overpay Brownie and just hold Brownie hostage and be like,

“if you want to play with your son, you have to sign with her. Now that's fascinating. So he would,”

they would, they would call the Lakers, comfortably, acquire Brownie. Yeah, be like, if you ever want to see your son again, the whole NBA season, you got to go play for Blazers. Yeah. I mean, this is, this is something the Blazers might do. Yeah, I can see doesn't do it. I think, because again, I mean, obviously, he would want to play with him. Now, everyone's saying the, the cabs, everyone's saying it's, it's got to be the cabs, got to be the cabs. I was looking at the whiteboard.

He had just Brad and Tatum listed for the Celtics. No Hugo on this list. Completed salt. What

the bulls were on the way. He didn't have trade. I think it just stopped with the list chasing Jordan's legacy.

“Okay. I was going to have trade. Trade hasn't always been really good to me. I didn't need to”

make it personal, but I just didn't think it was a good time. You didn't make it personal. You made it about a contract. Yeah, she was the opposite of personal. It was strictly business. It was a little person. Wizard thought it was personal. No, that's not pretty. Tell you what, Wendy, we'll make amends. I got season tickets. You'll come to a wizard's game. Sick court side of me at some point this year. I love it. I mean, by the way, are you excited about the team? Very excited. Yeah. Extremely excited.

Yeah. Garner eight and we got three first overall picks on the team. Yeah, I just keep telling everybody, hey, if 80 stays healthy and the Andre eight and plays like you did in college, we could be really good to me. Just plays like you did in the first part of that playoffs against us. So let me ask you this. 80 or two years left on his contract. Yep. Do you think it's a good

idea to give him like two more years and 120 million? It sounds like a trap. It sounds like a trap

question, Wendy. No, I think with him, it's probably fair to say we want you to go out there and see what you have. See what's left in the tank. See how healthy you are. If you play really healthy, you will guarantee yourself a massive payday either from us or from some other team that will gladly pay you a max contract. I think that's a completely rational well thought out experienced answer. Sounds like I learned from the triumphant contract. Thank you. Stay experienced. We're made. Yeah.

It's okay. It's okay. That's beautiful thing about sports when we can, we can disagree and we can have, we can have take battles and that's fine. Yeah. But yeah, by the way, I think it's amazing that we're having a back and forth about the wizards. That means that the wizards are entering the consciousness. We've talked a lot about the wizards on this podcast. Give me three LeBron spots. Is it Philly Warriors Cleveland? So I'm not sure, I think Philly is there because

“they make this Jalen Brown thing. I don't like, look, here's the thing about LeBron. He says it's about”

happiness. Well, that is so wonderfully amorphous and nebulous. Like who's to say what makes another man happy? Who's to say? Right. Like, like, you know, LeBron could like decide like, I want to play Marion. I played Marion. That's a, you know, I play the Philadelphia cricket club. And I think it's the course I want to play 70 times a year. And that makes me happy. Who's to say? Yeah, you could be a massacre. So you could be like, he, you know, it really makes me happy as a bunch of Philly fans screaming

at me and calling into radio shows and telling me I'm a bump. Right. Like the happiness. Like so if he picks the Warriors, he can say I want to play with Steph. Who's going to, who's going to say that that doesn't make somebody happy? That, like, of course it could make you happy. So this is the

thing. We've never seen a, a free agency like this ever where like the money is kind of for the

large part out the window and it's happiness. So you can, whiteboard 35 teams, whiteboard, you know,

“the, the teams in the G league. Like, you know, you can, is, you've used, I want to create happiness.”

So I would say this. One drama and opted out of his contract. I was like, well, drama and knows LeBron's out of LA. He very clearly doesn't opt out of his contract unless he knows that there's a possibility. And the thing that I didn't know, I was like, would drama and really opt out on spec. Like just at the possibility of LeBron coming, what drama and leave $28 million in the table and like say everything's going to be cool. Because this happened once before in 2014 when LeBron

left Miami. He really didn't articulate to Wade and Bosch what he was doing. He was just sort of on the fence. And so Wade and Bosch, like, like LeBron, opted out of his contract, like right for the season like 10 days before the deadline. Wade and Bosch opted out at two because they just they didn't want to be locked in. LeBron decides to go back to Cleveland gives Wade like a very minor heads up. Like there's been different stories or whatever, but he didn't really let Dwayne

know until very close to to when he actually was going to do it. Houston offers Chris Bosch the Max. And so Miami's hand is forced and they give Bosch the Max, which ended up being huge for him because he had the blood clots and to get his to get the longer contract that worked out and protected him and he didn't lose any money with that terrible hell scare. But Wade had like had a really bad season with knee injuries. And when the heat had like move on, they were like, hey Dwayne,

we got we got to give you a pay cut. It costs about $10 million roughly opting out of that contract

without certainty. So I've never believed that like a player on spec would opt out. I was like,

well, he would maybe know. And so when Dwayne might not get out, I was like, well, he's got to be operating with some knowledge. What it seems like is that he was operating with the knowledge of the Brown was not going back to the Lakers, not that LeBron was for sure going to the Warriors.

the Brown. And I haven't talked to anybody for a couple of days here. It's been the holiday. So I

may be a little bit lagged in information. But people who have been hanging out with LeBron recently who I've talked to, they're like, yeah, he's not really saying what he's doing. And that jives with previous times where he's done this, where he's not like sort of showing his hands to even people pretty close to him. So I definitely think Dwayne might opt out because he thinks there's

“a reasonable chance he could go with the, he'd go with the Warriors. So I think they're absolutely”

on the on the books. I'm not sure about Philly because I'm not sure how that fit is with those other guys. Obviously, if he goes there, it's an abundance of talent. And like you're like, well, just just figure it out. And like, you know, when does LeBron not made a team that he's been around better? Like, you could see it. I'm not sure, like, I know Rich said the Philly was there. I'm not sure that like, it makes a ton of sense. But again, he could just say, I'm going to be happy

there. Right. And so it does like I honestly, like, he doesn't fit tremendously with hard and and

done of them. But you're like, it's LeBron James. He's this incredible play with this incredible talent.

Like, he'll figure it out. So yeah, if he picks Philly, I would be surprised. But, you know, let's put it this way. Philly as soon as they got the Jalen deal, like done, they immediately reached out. Like, they're going for it. Like, they made their pitch. They've reached out. They did it. I talked to people in Philly. You know, I'm like, what do you think? And they're like, we're afraid it's Cleveland. Everybody, everybody I talked to was like, well, we're afraid it's Cleveland.

Nobody seems like they have optimism. My whiteboard for the Philly part of it is LeBron.

“I think in this, you do obviously, I'm never met the guy. I don't know how he thinks. But”

LeBron watching the nicks break their drought and everyone loving that team so much. There's probably a small part of him is like, hey, there could be a sliding doors where I've gone in New York back in the day. Philly's the next story. Philly's 43 years. Philly's crazy passionate. That might be the next story. He could be like, I'm the champion of this. Like, if he went to Philly and they won a title this year, he is a king and Philly forever. Even if they just went to

the conference finals, it would be a huge step forward for that. It would be like a smashing success season. No, that's he did for Cleveland obviously. Yeah. Yeah, because I can't take that off the table. Yeah, what about Minnesota? Kind of the same thing. Yeah, Minnesota. Like, you go to Minnesota. You win, you win a sports title in a minute. What is the last time the twins? Yeah, I have the last one they had in the 90-point. No, the the links. Don't link.

Yeah, I forgot about them. But yeah, I could see. I mean, that roster is, it feels like it would be a

“really, really strong one with LeBron. I mean, I think LeBron with Anne Edwards would be amazing.”

I don't know how LeBron would do with LeMelo. Like, I think that, I think LeMelo hoisting up 35 footers in transition with 18 on the clock. He might look side eye a side eye at that. Maybe likes a little bit of crazy though. He liked having JR Smith on the team for well, trust me. He's definitely had some guys who were crazy. Got his teams over the years. Listen, again, if you look me straight in the eye and say, I want to play with Anne Edwards, that will be

happiness. Like, I ain't trying to talk you out of that. I think that out. I mean, I think Anne

Edwards is one of the most amazing players in the league. I've gotten to know him a little bit,

covering team USA. LeBron was there with team USA. So many things were fascinating about the 24. I mean, LeBron was on that team too, as long as we're going to talk about that. But there was so many fascinating things about team USA. One of the things about team USA, we have the team talked about Miami yet, is how LeBron and Eric Spolstra, I don't want to use the word bonded because Spolstra is like a robot and I'm not sure how how how emotions are with players.

You know, like I've seen Spol with his kids and he's like a great father. I've seen Spol with players and he's like locked in like a robot. I don't know. But like LeBron and Spol were like attached at the hip and like pouring hours in working with each other on team USA. Like their relationship completely evolved in a new way with team USA. So like that's the thing. Like you can create cases for all of these scenarios. And I can't rule them out. I do think Cleveland is where there's definitely

a feel in the league. Like, oh, it's got to be Cleveland. But I don't think people are talking with knowledge. I think people are talking about vibes. Right. And that would be the best story book ending for his career and just finishing it. Especially now, you know, the documentary being filmed. Like, that's when they say something about it. Yeah. LeBron has had cameras around him consistently for at least a decade. Now, is it possible that he would have an upticking

the league to have a little bit more than he was previously allowed. Yes. But the idea that LeBron

having cameras around him was an indication of something. I'm sorry. That I just rejected. I mean, he was on the Netflix show a couple of years ago where he had heavy cameras around him a lot of times. And he has been playing more and more years. So he probably has 10,000 hours. I mean, I remember going to see Brani play as a high school freshman. And there was a documentary crew following Brani as a freshman. I remember going out to the the parking lot to leave the game. And there was

a sound man in two cameras watching Brani get into the car to go home for a non-descript

non league game on a Tuesday in December. So like just having cameras around is not like that

is not a change in the James when the James world. Okay. So I'm going to do a windy fingers for you.

“If LeBron always has cameras around, why hasn't he posted any footage of all these predictions?”

He gets correct. Right? We should probably have some footage of him saying, oh, yeah, Kobe's about to score 81. I can vouch for times when I've seen and heard the Brani make some predictions. But like this is a problem. I was just talking about this the other day. I am depositing and you guys can tell me we think I'm wrong. I believe that LeBron James has given

more interviews and has been on the record for more hours than anyone in modern American history.

Okay. Damn. Because when you think about and I actually want to say American history, but like when you think about 20 because because you're going back to high school, you think about 25 years of multiple hundreds of hours, multiple hundreds of interviews a year. For 25 years, plus all of the podcasts, plus the television shows, plus the social media, I don't think that there's more in the public sphere on the record comments by anyone in modern American history. And so therefore,

if you searched it like in mass, you could find proof of just about any point. Right. President Trump will be my only one. So you say that what was Trump doing three, two hundred interviews a year from 2003 to 2006. He was in the apprentice. Yeah, he was in the apprentice. He's 80. So he's obviously had like what a 40 year head start on the bronze. Are you saying just in the last 20 years? Well, LeBron's life, you know how he's been in the

public sphere for like 25 years. The big two LeBron, Dave Portnoy. Yeah, Dave, the two people be up there. Yeah. Listen, like it's possible. It's possible. Yeah. But that's a good point, though. It's kind of a crazy thing to think about. And when you consider all of the hours of gameplay, right, and all of the hours that he has generated and people talking about him or reviewing him, like we're doing right now. Yep. I would again make the case that he may be one of the largest

“content creators in the information age. Yeah. I think that's probably fair. The amount of,”

the amount of like, yeah, podcasts and discussion. And just hours of us watching this. Yeah, you're living proof not that the LeBron major career, but you, you moved to Miami and they start, you guys started, what was it called? The heat index. The heat index. So I think you got that branding. Yeah. That's a good brandy. But yeah, you guys like, and guess what? It was a smart move by ESPN because everyone wanted to year about it. Yeah. Right. So I'm just saying like, you could

almost find evidence to prove any point as the point where like LeBron claims to have made a lot of predictions. Of course, there are umpteen examples where it looks like he's stretching the truth. However, there are also examples where he was right about things. It's all, is what I'm saying.

“What about this rival league that LeBron and I think it was at Maverick Carter that they're”

in Kahutsong. It's called the B project. And I know that for a long time, they were saying it was going to be men's basketball league and women's basketball. Then for a while, it was just like a rival to the WMBA. But then I read a couple of months ago that they're trying to get back in to become a rival league to the NBA as well. And possibly as a landing spot for older players to extend their career, like how is this going to factor in to the end of LeBron James NBA career as he's thinking about

Who question? Very, very, very good question. He's trying to hurry up because he broke your heart. Yeah. There's a, there's a Serbian agent, Meshko, who's Yoke Chiz agent. And a lot of what we know because Maverick has not really really talked on the record about it and the folks who were involved with it, I tried, I, I tried to get on the record and really couldn't get them to reply to me. They were not interested in talking about it. So Meshko went on a Serbian podcast

and talked about it in Serbian. I had, I had it translated and like verified the translation. And in that podcast, you know, he talked about meeting LeBron and Maverick on a yacht in the

Mediterranean and they discussed basically creating a rival league to the NBA. Yeah.

And then two things have happened and I can't for sure say that this is related, but two things happened because the under the belief and understanding was that there was going to be some Saudi backing. Maverick has ties in Saudi Arabia. He is, he has visited Saudi Arabia as a guest of the, of the royal family and the, the Saudis, the PIF, the public fund of Saudi Arabia.

“They own a league where this, I believe it's electric boat racing. And Maverick owns, you know,”

owns a team in that league. He has business developing business with the Saudis. This is public information. This is not like anything that's like, you know, it was all announced and stuff like that. Even when he, it was in newspapers in Saudi, he was on social media with members of the royal family when he visited Saudi Arabia. None of this is his new information. But he was, he was slowly but surely like developing his relationship with the Saudis. And then there was like the

possibility of this league forming. And nobody for sure knew that it might be Saudi money, but in the wake of live, people speculated that the Saudis could be backing Lebron with this league. And, you know, the idea was that you wouldn't have to kind of like live golf. You would play a world tour where you wouldn't have to play as much and you could potentially make more money.

“And then a couple of things happen. One, NBA Europe started and the Saudis, I think, were at least”

in some level interested in investing in NBA Europe. And so, and by the way, again, Mishko, the agent is on the record in this podcast saying this is what they did. This is again, I'm quoting him. I'm not, I don't have hard report. I can only know what he said on a

public podcast in Serbia. The NBA Europe began. The Saudi, so live golf basically failed.

And the Saudi Arabia entered a war. And where they're now focused on buying drones and the PIF is cutting back funding other funding of sports, sort of across the board. So when the women's league started, they didn't start with the men's league. And there's a Saudi company like operating it or helping it with events. But it doesn't sound 100% clear that there's actually Saudi money in it. So for a time, it looked like it may be something that was, you know,

could blossom into a live. But it hasn't. Some of the players who were thought to be guys who might be plucked off, like some people speculated that that would be Luka would maybe go, where Yokech would maybe go. Well, Luka signed a contract extension. And now the bronze looks like he's going to, has announced he's playing another year into age 42. So it was sort of hazy, what was going to happen there. But there's been no indication. And I'm, and I wish I had more,

but there's been no indication that that is going for it, not that it couldn't at some point. Okay, that's interesting stuff, though. Like the fact that he as, as a player in the NBA, at one time was plotting to start a rival league to the league. Well, so said that agent. Yeah.

You know, LeBron never said that, just to be clear. Right. When the last couple questions,

what team should we be looking out for? I know, you know, free agency already started.

“We've got a lot of moves already happen. Is there one team that you're like, hey, what's going on there?”

Good question. I mean, so I would just say like, the Utah Jazz,

maneuvers to lose. And like, I think their team might actually kind of be good.

And Darren Peterson got off, you know, you know, over at the summer league, but he had a, he looked a nice start to summer league. And, and they let Walker Kessler go.

“And so now they have like all this ammunition to make trades. And I really think that they kind of”

won like win immediately. So like they're going to have Lauri, Markinon, and, and Darren Jackson, and and Darren Peterson and Ace Bailey, and Keante George and like a ton of cap space and trade assets and trade exceptions. Like the Utah Jazz are, and like, you know, they're just sort of existing. They know what's paying attention to them in years. Like, I think they are like,

they potentially were like, uh, I don't know how many wins they had this year. Like 25 wins or 28

wins or something like that. But I think really, they were like probably like a 38 win team, and like, I think they're going to maybe get like way better way fast. And so Utah is a team that I am going to be watching this season. Okay. All right. Whatever that's worth you. I like that. All right. And then last question, row back question. Are you show back.com

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great polos, great great hoodies, great shorts, everything. I love windy that you have the sweatshirts and speaking of row back pump to see our guy, James Winston invested in row back along with 200 plus other athletes. We love row back. We love James congrats guys. Zach, you got us a question.

And windy, thank you as always. You're always so gracious with your time. Thanks for having. I texted

“windy on, I think for the July. I was like, hey, can you come on Sunday night talk free agency? He's like,”

yeah, absolutely. The absolute best. All right. Not the donuts. That is true. Yes. Yes. And I just got and gotten back from taking my kids to get them. Zach, go ahead. How are you doing today, sir? I did have a quick question regarding the trade deadline. Do you think in the cold? It's okay. Sorry. Oh, my god. Okay. Oh, my bad, my bad, never mind. No, no, go for it. All right, another question. No, I'm just kidding. Are you talking about the trade deadline? No, I

was just wondering February? No, I'm just kind of curious if we think Yogi's going to get traded. Oh, okay. That was my fault. That was a good question. And he calls me sir like respects my opinion. Yeah, I just see this. My expertise. I was a question. So I respect your expertise. That I expected better from you. Yeah. Ask questions again. That's my fault. I shouldn't have, I thought you got a free agency and trade deadline. No, that's completely understandable. I was just kind of

curious, do you think he's going to get traded? And if so, what the post is on that, if you have any kind of like what you're thinking? Well, naturally, I've asked this question because, you know, Yogi could have extended last year. And it was like, no, no, no, he doesn't. There's no stress, nothing to worry about. He'll get a he'll extend next year. And so it's now next year. Now, like nobody is really extended. Like, you know, none of the like the young guys have extended,

you know, when Binyama has an extended, right? Like, so I'm not like getting, you know, I'm not getting all interested in that on July 5th. I will say that like if if Yogi does not extend, he can be a free agent next year. And if he reaches a point where he says, I'm not extending, there is not a reasonable reason not to extend the financial, I guess in theory, he could get an extra year. I mean, in theory, you could wait to extend until you're 38 and

extend for five years and just say, well, I got an extra year. But he is now going into the last guaranteed year of his contract, he has a player option or whatever. So if Yogi, now, the the nuggets are like, he's, you know, he is on the record is saying, I'm a nugget for life. The nuggets are not stressed about it. Like, they're operating in their business. Like, they're not the only thing, but if Yogi enters the season, having not extended, that will become a significant

storyline. Will it become like LeBron 2010? I don't think so. Because again, he has said on the

on if he does not extend his contract. Because the nuggets are a team that's bumping up against the second apron and are losing players and are in danger of losing more players and had obviously a disappointing end to this last season. Arguably, you could say, disappointing into three straight seasons because, you know, if you look at that run where they had two game seven losses, one diminisota, one do Oklahoma City and they won the title. You could argue that I did that three

years span that they had one championship out of three years was the worst possible outcome.

Like as good as they were and as powerful as they were, that they probably should have at least

gotten back to another find. I was a maybe one a second one. And so now their performance is going downhill and their spending is going downhill. I'm not spending, but they're losing players because all their players have gotten more expensive. So yeah, they are definitely on the watch list.

“And that's one of the reasons why they would be an amazing team for LeBron. Because I think the”

nuggets would be in some ways the most interesting team. Of course, I am from Cleveland and, you know, my family are awaiting, you know, with baby breath for LeBron's decision. And like, you know, Bronch going back to Cleveland is extremely enriching for many people that I know. And I have such a history there, whatever, but from a straight, you know, focused on like, you know, in a vacuum 2026, 27 season, if LeBron went to Denver and brought that level of talent

to a team that is weasing under the weight of its salaries and brought that influx, it would be incredible. And seeing LeBron and Yoke, which played together, would be potentially like once in a generation type. But by the way, curry in LeBron would be the same. I guess it's not just Yoke but short of the nugget's pulling the sword from the stone and that type of in that type of transaction, I don't know if they're going to bring the same team back. So I don't know if

they're going to be better. So yes, absolutely Zach, we are watching it, but like the nuggets are not, you know, according to them, are not stressing about it. Good question, Zach. Instead of, instead of asking you where LeBron is going to go, do you have any idea on the timeframe? It sounds like they were not doing it this weekend. I know there was like this big internet room, obviously the weekend's over, but there was like this

big internet room where he was announcing it today or whatever. And I never believe that. So I've

asked a question, obviously, and I've gotten like a series of different days. Like, oh, it could be midweek, it could be the week later. So I don't have a good answer. Trust me, I've asked I just knew it was not going to be this weekend. All right. All right. Well, Wendy, thank you, Wendy. You are the best. Thank you so much starter of the country clubs in Akron, signed out what day he

“does not have a tea time in the next week. And that would be, if I was really in trepid, that's why I”

like that's a good move. We'll get on that. It's a good move. I'll see you. I'll see a court side feet on the wood at a, at a, at a wiz game. It's going to be great. And by the way, I, it's the

league is better when the wizards are good. My, I've always said that. Yeah, 2005 to 2008,

three straight years, calves wizards every year in April in the playoffs. Cherry blossoms are out fun street. Remember, they would close off the arena. Yep. They'll close off the street next to arena, eighth, eighth. I think it was eighth, and they would call it fun street, and they would have everybody out there to go go bands. Yeah. Um, you know, uh, well, with soldier boy sitting court side, yep, Gilbert Arena sitting 30 footers. Like, these are core memories for me. The show Stevenson.

The Sean Stevenson with Abraham Lincoln on his throat. Yeah. Like these, I, it would be awesome to see you the wizards be relevant again. I am not, I am pro wizard. Okay. All right. We'll see you there. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Wendy. You're the best guys. Have a good week. Okay, boys, off to Tahoe, chill week. Next, you see us. Lovely Tahoe and behind us. Max, mom, chill. Max, I'm chill doing some awesome interviews. Chill week is usually sneaky. One of the, uh,

most busy weeks that we do. It's a pump fake chill. Pump fake chill. Some great interviews coming out. Great guests, and it should be nice out there. Good weather. The mountains are unbelievable. Watch out for the bears out there, Zach. Look forward to the onions. Lots of bears. He's not talking about her lacquer, but her lacquer might fuck you up too. But no, like, there was smoke with, uh, with their lacquer. There's lots of bears out there. Like, like, physical bears. We got to get weapons.

“You, hey, you got to, I got to get my cheeseburgers. I got to get going. What's your preferred cook?”

The, no pink, a little pink, medium. So, Bickette came over to my place for 4th of July.

checking on people. I, I passed by Bickette. I go, hey, Bickette, did you get any, any burger

“or a seed? And he goes, yeah, I had three. And I was like, oh, that's it. And then I stopped.”

It was like, wait, what? You had three? I was a little ashamed of it because it was, uh, it was a fun party. There was kids. There was people. And, uh, I ate all, I, my three burgers,

each one in a different location. Because I was like, I didn't want to, like, there's,

there's probably like 15 people from that party, but like, oh, I sat with him for a burger.

“Because I would just like kept, like, I ate one with the kids. And I ate one with just more, some”

adults than I went to the table. Because I was like, I can't sit and just have three cheese burgers in front of people. And then I ate some steak too. Yep. But every room you're going through,

it's like different people saying, oh, that must be his first. Yeah, right. I was just trying to hide.

I was a little ashamed of it, which I shouldn't be. All right. I'm going to go with 50. Let's go. 30. There's seven. He's six. We're mad at him.

“31. We have tea. Yeah, sure. You can get it. You want to do a more part there?”

It's two or more. It's like a 30. It's two or more. I was just 50 again. 0. The rare Cura. Happy birthday to George W Bush. Happy birthday to Dolly the sheep. You got clone. Your ask got clone. Maybe not even a birthday. Happy clone day to dolly the sheep. Happy birthday to Zion Williamson. Maybe he's up on the cake. And happy birthday to the goat. Nancy Reagan. She would have dominated the Nathan's hot dog

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