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a plus. The all-star game feels like it took 10 million hours to get through, even though it wasn't.

But yeah, the home underbee did was safe. It was awesome. Yeah, the home underbee was cool. And the game right now, it's the ninth inning and there's two outs, but we don't know how much longer it's going to go. There might be another song. I'm thinking, Major League Baseball said, we know we know how to connect with the youth. We're going to have boys to men. We're going to have three different musical breaks. We're probably going to get like Will Ferrell as Hawks singing this

land as your land. And after the ninth inning's over, but yeah, this this game was pretty boring. I got to be honest. The all-star game was kind of boring. Kind of ironic that the American League wins. And a year where it feels like the American League is just, you know, they begin their ass kicked by the National League. And then if you look at the ballerpower on each team, it feels like the National League should win this pretty easily. But it's the all-star game.

Nobody really cares. So, what do you think in that? Can I say something without triggering a certain member of the show? Do you think I can? God, no, God, God, I'm going to get mad at it. Okay. All right. You know, I'll start positive. I thought, so the home underbee was awesome. And a big part. I was just our negative. No, I'm going to start positive. The home underbee was awesome in large part because Filly fans showed out. Buying like as Jordan Walker took pitches,

it was awesome. There was just like, you could just feel the energy in the building. I think the rule change back to being able to watch the home runs made it very cool. Jordan Walker's comeback was was like, I wasn't rooting for him. I was rooting for Schwabra. I bet on Schwabra. I don't

“like Carlos, all these things. But it's still, you have to tip your cap and be like, he just,”

he, he, he put his balls on the table at the end of the home underbee and won that home underbee in a hostile environment. That, that's positive, right? Right, right Max? That's positive. I'm ready. I'm ready for your follow-up. Okay. Will you agree, PFT? The home underbee was awesome. It's better. It's much better than it was. I think he can still be a little bit better. I, I don't like the swings. Give us outs. I don't like the whole swings thing. Yeah. It should be

You get to watch it land for the most part. There were a lot of times when they didn't have like

“they show the ball in the air and then they go back and like show the face of the pitcher sometimes.”

I didn't really understand that. I don't know if you guys watched American gladiators when you were kids did you? Yeah, of course. Like the old school done. We got lucky. I want to get a

tennis ball gun in our office. Yeah. That was awesome. I was that's gauntlet. You gauntlet was incredible.

But when they brought back American gladiators and they tried to revamp it like what seven eight years ago, they kind of fucked it up in the same way that they fucked up the home run Derby. And by that, I mean that the home run Derby and American gladiators are both objectively ridiculous things to watch. They're awesome. But they're kind of ridiculous things to watch. But the reason why I love the home run Derby when I was growing up and the reason why I love gladiators

is because they had like still camera shots and they treated it like it was a real sport. Like stationary cameras all this shit. You didn't need to have the cameras moving around or anything like that. And then when they brought it back and just how they kind of tried to innovate the home run Derby, you've got like ultra tight zooms. You've got dynamic camera angles and steady cams that are like,

“you know, it's disorienting. I think they think that you need to spice it up since it's not an actual”

event. But that's what I love about the home run. Treat it like it's an actual sport. Give me just the stationary cameras. Let me watch the ball land in the outfield. Take our times between swings. And I don't know. I also, I got a bad vibe from Buster only's tweet that he had today. He said over the last five years, the home run Derby average with the clock was 275 homeers. Last night, over about the same amount of time, 131 homeers. So it's like Buster is like,

it seems like he's trying to like poo poo the new format. But it feel like we got to watch. I feel like more home runs than we did in the old format when we didn't get to see the ball every land. I like, I'm not kind of complaining about the home run Derby because I enjoyed it. And also, I have other complaints later. I thought it was awesome. And I thought the way the format set up where Jordan Walker had one out left. And he's like, you have to hit all these

every single one of these has to go out. It made for a thrilling, fun experience. And you know, I just, I liked it. I thought it was good. I was again rooting for Schwabbert didn't work out. But I liked the home run Derby. I'm not going to complain. I feel like the everything went forward. And it was a progress. Nothing is perfect in life. And I enjoyed the event. I enjoyed how was set up. So I'm not going to complain on that. You can do a little bit better. That's all I'm saying. I liked

watching it. But we come up. We can do, but we can make it perfect. The home run Derby should be

perfect. It's not what we've got anything. So that's definitely not true. It will definitely never

be perfect. And you know that. Like that just won't happen. It was so close to my, my idea of perfect is when I'm, when I'm getting that. And we're so close to it. And it was, it was good. I'm not complaining. It could be a little bit better. Max, how would you rate how the fillings perform this weekend? Because that would be the negative. I'm not trying to trigger you. Again, I was rooting for Schwarber. But that's that he, he lost home at Derby. Christopher Sanchez

was the losing pitcher in the All-Star game. He gave up three runs in the first inning. Bryce Harbour came up, which I loved the mic up when he was just like that was crazy when he struck out. How would you, how would you rate that? Because it felt like there was a week. There were I knew it. I know. I'm just, we had P. Crawl. I'm sure I had a hit. I'm just saying like there was breath. I felt like big moment after big moment for, for fillings. And it just didn't happen.

Like Schwarber has his phone now. Ready for Bryce Harbour just nothing happens. The team had two hits. Okay. Great. I appreciate for saying that it's going to pitch better. I agree. Michael, he's been a little bit of a pro recently. But if you're going to blame the fillings, the team had, I apologize. The team had three hits and nine innings. So nobody had a multi-hit game. Nobody had an extra base hit. There were three singles by the NL. So what, yes, the NL

“as a whole could have played better. CJ Abrams over to two strikeouts. Why did you bring that up?”

Why did he bring up the fillings? I'm just, we were talking about it. Because the game is being put into fillings. I was just talking about. I mean, I didn't bring up the fillings, just for fun. It was because the game's in Philadelphia. Like the next year got, hopefully we have a baseball season. And the, and the, also our game is going to be at Riggly. If PCA loses the home run

Derby and Justin Steele pitches the first hit and gives up three runs. You don't have to use

something rude. The home run, like everyone, there's five people that lost home run Derby. Kyle Schwartz didn't correct. He had 11 home runs in torqued and 50. I feel like one of those.

yard because this was kind of his world series. No one, he was a close to Kyle Schwartz in the home run Derby and been like, oh my god, what a choke job from Jordan from Kyle Schwartz. You're angry. You're the only one I didn't say that. I was waiting for a, there was, there was, okay, let me phrase it differently. I don't want to, I want this to be a fight. They're felt like there were multiple moments in the last two days that were like perfect

for the, the, the filly crowd and filled it off to explode and we never got it.

Yeah, I mean, Jordan Walker went absolutely insane at the end of his round. Like, we, we said it tape your cap to Jordan Walker. Some guys, like Schwartz had a great performance in the home run Derby. Jordan Walker was just better. Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't, yeah, I got a question.

“You have to come here from Barsal Sports Park, I take podcast up Max. There were some talk about maybe”

the score keeping not being above board in the home run Derby. Do you have a comment about that? About the magenta ball, the magenta ball. Oh, well, I, I was ready to go for a comment on that. But Kyle Schwartz also hit white baseball is at the, at the end of his round as well. So I had, I had to put my short down. But I was ready to go to, oh, this morning, you were talking about the magenta balls. Well, then I said, I actually right now, I had my sorting my hand and I was

waiting for Max to get mad about the score keeping knowing that Kyle Schwartz were also hit white baseballs at the end. So now I have to leave my sword down to Max. So you were ready, you were ready to fight me on, yeah, that's credit to me. That's credit to me. That's credit to me before going into a fight. Max, I apologize. I didn't, I did not mean to attack you. I literally was just saying it felt like there was a big moment. You know, there was a, it was, I mean, who cares? Overall, at the end,

it doesn't fucking care. Well, I mean, you did tweet like, I want this more than I want anything

“in the world. I think during the Schwartz, on my Derby, which, well, I did want, yeah,”

I didn't want Schwartz to win. And I actually, I thought more about that. And I think I still stand by it. Yeah, because it felt like there was that big moment that didn't happen. I wanted it, but I, Kyle Schwartz, I'm not disappointed in Kyle Schwartz performance in the home run Derby. I was disappointed that Jordan Walker went absolutely nuclear to end his round, but like it wasn't like, it wasn't like Kyle Schwartz was up with a chance to win the home run

Derby. And he just, and he just absolutely baked a bun and had like three homers and 15 swings. He had 11 homers and 15 swings. Like, no, he's awesome. He's a good job. Gordon Walker just did better.

Like, what? Yeah, and Jordan Walker, he makes like $800,000 a year. He won a million dollars

for winning the home run Derby. Yeah, that's got to be awesome. That's a pretty cool moment. And his parents were in the crowd, his parents were electric. They said that there was a bunch of filly fans around them that were just building them. And they, and they were like, this is awesome. It feels good to be like, yeah, filly fans were, filly fans. Yeah, they made it. You think King Griffith Jr. could go out there and still hit like 30 home runs in a season.

“Because whenever I see him, I'm like, the kids still got it. I think I don't, I don't think that.”

He looks, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, he can't. He looks like we say very many years. I don't know. I still feel like that swings there. Yeah, I'm about very long. Yeah. Very long. The very long talks. He talks like he's still the best ever.

And it was cool to see Barry bonds again. We never see Barry bonds. So it was cool to see him.

Yeah, I don't know if I think that about Ken Griffith because he just, he looks like he enjoys his life. And in a different way now, he's got like a little bit of a round face thing going on. But you guys know what I'm saying with King Griffith Jr. He's like, he's one of those athletes that you see him and you always think like, yeah, the kid that swings still there. Yeah, I think of that with Barry bonds for sure. Barry bonds, like he could just, he, he could show

up and just be awesome. And take like a million walks because people would fear him. All right, Mike, one complaint, I, I get it. I get what they were doing with the sand lot thing. I thought it was like weird. How long? And it was also just, it felt the whole point of sand lot is you play fireworks under the, because there's no lights. They had lights. Yeah, and it was the fourth of July. It's a pretty, it's a pretty, pretty, pretty important part

of the storyline of sand lot is. They, they are puking on themselves of the tilto world. It's a fourth of July. Yeah. I, I, I'll take whatever disputes to listen to that version

It did feel like we overdid it a little bit with the songs tonight. Hand up, hand up,

my first reaction when they started coming out, um, because I was like, why you know that it's

sand lot because they're coming out on bikes and I just thought like some of the, when they zoomed

“in on a couple of like like Miserowski, I think was trying to show like a 12 year old how to throw”

105 miles an hour. It's like there's no way this is real conversation that's happening right now. That one kid almost hit trout in the belly for a brief second. I was like, oh fuck, Ray Charles is still alive. And then like, ah, you're a moron. This is, this is an old video. Take you to the same thing. I didn't realize until the end. Like I was like, I was like, I was like, is it, is this a filter? And I was like, oh, yeah, no, he's dead. He's so bad. So, so stupid because I love Ray Charles.

And I was like, God damn, was that dumb of me to think that Ray Charles was in the building tonight, being like, he's just pelting it out at, however old he would have been. So yeah, really stupid. Overall, good night, though. Good, good two days. Good job, Philly. In the, in the signing of the, uh, deciding of the line of card was kind of cool. I thought that was, like, it's a little cheesy, but I thought that was kind of cool. It was something different.

I also like the hats. I thought the hats were pretty good, too. Yeah. And going classic uniforms, remember, remember we had that stretch where we like had like different uniforms that fucking sucked.

“This is what they all start games should be. You should wear your uniform gray and, and white.”

I'm looking at some videos of King Riffy Jr. from last night. He to eat is not look fat. I mean, he's fatter than what he looked in the, obviously put on a little bit of weight, but for you to be like, oh, King Riffy Jr. looks at that. That's absurd to say that King Riffy. He looks good. I, there are certain athletes that I absolutely are like, yeah, they could still play. King Riffy Jr. Being 56 years old, I do not think he could hit 30 home runs. He's not

in that list of me for me personally. Obviously, he's not going to hit 30 home runs. But that was

what you say. So that's why, yeah, I just never, like, there are certain guys so that I look at him,

like, yeah, that guy could still do everything. I've never thought about that with King Riffy Jr. Personally, maybe it's just that I want to watch some swing. How about that? Yeah, enjoy one of these swing. And I would love to see him try. Definitely. Absolutely. That's, that's 100% correct.

“And he's, I mean, yeah, he's got the sweetest swing ever. But yeah, Barry, I think it's because”

Barry bonds also like weirdly cuts like smaller than he was at the end. So I'm like, oh, yeah, Barry, but I think we just never see Barry bonds. So I'm like, oh, yeah, he could probably do it because we never see him. And I just assume he could still do it. You know what? I think that might be a new white whale for part of my take. Barry bonds. I love that Barry bonds on the podcast. He's done that he, he's so rarely does any sort of media. Everyone's already got their mind made up about the guy.

I would love to get Barry bonds in a room sit down for like an hour. I agree. That would be two hours. How much would he talk about everything? Is the question? See, I don't know. To be honest with you, I don't know what Barry bonds was personality is right now. You know, he hates the media at times. But I feel like we need to have the Barry bonds like the definitive, here's my story from Barry bonds. Also, the Barry bonds, the reason why I say that about Barry

bonds, remember there was that story was, well, how many years ago was he the hitting coach for the Marlins? And they would do like Homer Derby's, he would beat everyone. And it was just like, oh, yeah, of course he did. He's just still kicking the shit out of everyone, even though he's been out of the league for a long time. He's that type of dude. Um, I do want to talk some world cup. Let's talk some footy. All right. Before we do that, draft Kings, draft Kings. Listen,

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seven days via click to claim for 21 days one none with drawable reward redeemable predictions offer avoid in New York. And July 19 turns at dkng dot co slash audio. Don beatable team has been beaten. Spain absolutely throttled France and now feels like it's their tournament to win. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, France, it turns out they didn't play anybody until they played Spain. So they had Iraq, Senegal. I think they played Norway's backups in the group stage. They played

Sweden. They played the biggest bus in the world in Paraguay and Morocco was they probably also played probably the Titans, the Raiders, the Jets twice, the Dolphin twice. It was a ridiculous schedule that that France had and they were beating the fuck out of bad teams. But then they ran into a

real team today. And yeah, Spain's attack just, they were too fast up front for him. Yeah, yeah,

and it was I think you're mall. No, no, no, it's not for cave bird. I got it. That's, you put it in front of the game for it. Spain. Oh, I thought you're saying I think you said Spain. Did I? I thought it said, because France had an easy schedule. I think he's a France. Yeah, the, you know, France played against Jared Stedham. Yeah, you know, you know, and his tail. You mall by the way, I think I saw the Staddy's played in Bapé 13 times, which obviously it's a

team sport, but he's won 11 out of 13. So he's he and Bapé stopper. There's nothing you can do about it.

“Yeah, that's what Spain just did. They fuck France up. Spain looked faster up front.”

And Bapé's really fucking good though. He's he's he's legit. I hope that we get two more world cups out of them. I feel like Messi is kind of ruined that for everybody now where now we have to almost expect these guys play until they're 40 because Messi's are free, and he's still at the peak of his powers. I got one thing to complain about with these games. Okay. Why are we playing them at 2 p.m. on a weekday? I actually like it, but are you saying because yeah, I mean,

I think it's for the rest of the world for, you know, the countries that actually care about soccer. They want to watch it a regular time. So I would assume that's why we're trying to get the European audience for sure, but it's our world. Cut, we're hosting it. We should be playing these kick-offs should be at 6 p.m. at the earliest. Yeah, I think they're just doing it for the, again, I think it's probably for the rest of the world. I have no problem with it just because we

don't have a real job. So it's like free free sports. I see what you're saying. It is a little weird that it's like the biggest game is being played at 2 o'clock or time. But yeah, I think they're just trying to, you know, get everyone in Europe to be pumped about it because they do care about soccer more than us. They do. That's the fact. I mean, but what's the point of hosting the world

“up? If you have to be on the rest of the world's time. It was just weird when I saw it. It was like 2 p.m.”

All right, we can make that work for sure, but there's a lot of people I couldn't watch the game. I did it. I just looked it up. It is 7, 7 o'clock in London 8 o'clock in Paris. So they're just getting the prime time. That's, that's so we're just giving them prime time. Yeah. No, it's, it's our world cup. Right. Like they're, they host the world cup. They can, they can kick off at whatever time they want. Yeah, they're probably in Spain. No, I'd be like, men. Yeah. No, they would, yeah, they'd probably

do the, we'd probably just get it to a clock. Just like we're getting right now. Yeah. So we're a fit. That's the trade off. But yeah, no, it is a weird time. It's weird. It just, it doesn't have the same juice as the nighttime game. I would agree with you on that one, where it's like, you just two o'clock in the afternoon's like, all right, I guess we're just playing a game now. Yeah. So if we're rooting for matchups, Spain looks awesome. They look really, really good today.

“I feel like Argentina, Spain, that's what if FIFA is drawing this up in the lab, it's got to be”

Argentina, Messi won last ride, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And Zach is in hell. He's, he, he doesn't want this to happen. He's going to be rooting so hard against Messi today as you're listening to this. He's, he just wants, he wants Messi out of this tournament so, so badly. I've got another one respect for Messi. I just think that Messi just gets a lot of favor some time. That's all. I respect Messi as a player. He's unreal. But, I don't know if Argentina could be

another example of those, one of those teams, colleague Franco, really didn't have to play too many.

I mean, always had a Cape Verde and Egypt. We're two of the three, they might be in a situation too.

We're just like, they didn't really play at level of difficulty and then they could run into a team like Spain or hurricane an England and just get maybe worked. Yeah, I mean, even when they played some of those lesser teams, they didn't look great against some either. A Cape Verde could have very easily taken that to pk's. I think bailouts are kind of a part of the Argentine story.

Yeah. Did you see our friend Taylor Twilman tweeted out that speaking of like cupcakes,

“Spain has played, I think six out of seven of their games indoors. And that's been a, you know,”

we've had Argentina's coming off a game playing in Kansas City, England's coming off an extra time game in Miami, just something to think about. Are they getting a little bit of a favorable draw by just playing in air conditioning the whole time? Because I would imagine air conditioning for Europeans hits like crack like the best crack of all of our Biden crack. Yeah. That's like when we go over to Spain and we see a nude beach like that's that feeling

that we get over there is their feeling when they're walking into one of our buildings over here.

Yeah. Yeah. There's just like going on. Holy fuck. This is incredible. Yeah. Yeah.

A Spanish dude walking in the 7/11 has to be life changing. In the middle of the summer is got to be it's got to be like they saw God for the first time. They probably look at the big gulp and they're like, oh my god, this is so big. And then their friend comes up and they're like, dude, that's the small. And then they just melt down. And it's just like, yeah, it's got to be incredible. Yeah. Just think about like, yeah, I'm just thinking now like an English guy walking into one of

our supermarkets. And they probably just go to they just directly go to their knees and start weeping and be like, I didn't know that we could live like this. I didn't know that I could walk. I know I could get the shivers when I walked down the frozen food aisle in the middle of July. Yeah, the sides. Oh my god. When they walk to like the the deli and they see the pre-made sides that you can just walk home with. Oh, oh, that's got to freak them out. What about

movie theater? Holy fuck. They might never leave a movie theater if we have. We might have like just a bunch

of English dudes. We're just peeling them off the movie theater ground in like late August once like, hey dude, it's time to go home. You've been here too long. Yeah. Yeah. So I was in I was in Providence last night and I was walking through the downtown area and they had still the giant like FIFA fans own setup and it was all for the Portuguese fans. So it was like specifically geared towards Portugal because that's where I guess their team was it was based out of and there's nobody there. It was a

ghost town. It was the saddest thing I've ever seen. Like the all the rides and all the different like inflatable stuff was still very much set up. It said like welcome Portugal to Rhode Island and there was nobody there because they all went home. Zach, did you get anything for Zach?

No, because they didn't had there was nobody manning him because it was basically shut down. Yeah.

But it's like crushing for country. Yeah. It's brutal Zach. He's been we're not those been gone for

“so long. I even remember him in the World Cup. I think we all can agree. Not very memorable.”

The entire performance. All we're all remembered most about Rhode Island in this World Cup is is the German guy that came over here and has avatar as Cristiano Ronaldo and then blocked me on Twitter. He's back. He's back. Freddie's back. He came. He blocked me. He did. What you saying mean to him? I might have been the Project Paper Club reference that I made. I don't know. It was probably just all the shit that we talked about Ronaldo. No, I'm not blocked. I've been pro-fready from the beginning.

No. No. He popped back up. He said that everyone was being very negative towards him. Which is like come on man. That's the internet. You can't tweet. You can't see anything on the internet without a half the people being like you're the worst person ever. I hope you get hit by a bus. That's just how it works. I mean, just objectively speaking, he had the best vacation of all time. Yeah. You can't draw that like beyond his wildest dreams. He got to live like a movie star for for three weeks. Besides

his favorite player getting embarrassed and sent home. But like besides that, he had the best vacation any of us could ever hope for. I was thinking about that. Is this the like, if we did a Mount Rushmore, we should do this Mount Rushmore Sunday scary's? The Europeans who have been here,

“like if you're a you are a Norwegian guy who came for like a month and a half and then you have to”

go back home after a month and a half of just partying and enjoying the US and having our air conditioning. How brutal is that? We're like fuck. This is real life again. I think at some point, especially the Scandinavian countries, you got to tap out from the sun though. Yeah, you're your body. I need to be indoors. Get me to a fjord. Yeah. But I just was thinking about that. Like these, some of these guys have to have been here for like weeks and weeks and weeks. And I know that in

Europe, they just don't work in the summer. That's why Hank loves it over there so much. But it's like gotta be those scariest hours ever to be on your flight back home after not being home for like six weeks. And then I got a fuck. I got to work again. I just thought I was my life was eating

Do you guys think about what your legacy is going to be a hundred years from now?

“Not 'cause it may be dead. That was weird. So people missed that there was a reporter at the”

open who is just asking everyone this. The S. Roy and Scotty, what do you think about your legacy in a hundred years? It's actually a trap question because if you say that you care, you're the biggest ego maniac ever. Like we're all gonna die. Scotty is your correctly. He's like no offense, man. But I'll be dead and it doesn't matter after that. And that's a fact. I like that. Like there's like no offense, but I'm going to be dead. Yeah. That's actually the perfect answer

to the question. Yeah. He let him down nicely. He was like, hey, just so you know, I want you to

start mourning now. But me Scotty Schaffler, I will one day die. So just let's get that out there. Let's just let's just set the table. It's crazy. Yeah. I mean, especially to ask like a golfer that

“'cause it's such a mental sport. They spend zero time thinking about like during a tournament week.”

They're thinking about the layout of the course. They're thinking about what the weather's going to be like. At no point this week, Scotty Schaffler, like, I wonder what they're going to say a hundred years about me. You know, like a hundred years, a hundred years ago, who's the most famous person? Who has the paper strongest legacy from 1926? Paper earth. You think he's number one? I feel pretty confident in paper earth.

All right. Well, he's what is his legacy? He ate hot dogs. He drank whiskey and he fought. And he might be the man he can. And he might be the man he can. And people are still hiding that. And that's the best you can hope for. That memory that that you will achieve that we just gave paper. That's the best that you can hope for. It's a pure point. Yeah. Yeah.

“Candy bar. Good candy bar. That's really, actually, that's how you answer it. You say,”

hopefully in a hundred years was a candy bar named after me. That'll be sick. Yeah. You're much rather than a candy bar named after you than an airport. Yes. Yes. What, Max? Would you like him know the most notable athletes in 1926? I just woke up. Yeah. It's I'm going to guess. It's like boxer boxer. Bay boxing is one of them. Yeah. Where there's one other name that's that's notable. Bay Bruce Bobby Jones. Okay. Those are the two

names that I've heard of. Okay. Who's the other names? Jean Toney boxing. Gertrude Ederly swimming. Mules Suttles baseball shoes and Langolin tennis and Mules Suttles. Meals Suttles. I got a little bit more about this. Meals Suttles guy. Yeah. It's a hot name. It was Gertrude a chick. Gertrude Ederly. Yep. Swimmer. Gertrude Ederly. Eipad. Mule Suttles. Mule Mule Suttles. Oh yeah. Mule Suttles rocks.

Okay. Mule Suttles. George Mule Suttles. It was a dominant force in the Negro League and hit an estimated 425 with 21 triples. 425 is pretty damn. Oh shit. He was 511 weighed 195 pounds. Used a 50 ounce bat. Beats. That's awesome. Dude. What are guys using today? Like what max? 37. Yeah. 37 is heavy. Yeah. Like 34 to 64. 50 ounce bat. That's a fucking tree trunk. He was swinging a tree trunk. He, all right. This is about Mule Suttles. He hit it. He

saw us. What is it? All right. So he flew over a 60 foot high center field fence and landed in the ocean. He had a one in in tropical can of park in Tampa. He hit this damn ball so far. It looked like we were playing in a lot. It didn't look like no ballpark. It was because of Suttles strength that he got his nickname in late in games when a big hit was needed. His teammates would encourage him with cries of kick mule kick. The heaviest bat used in the MLB today is

Bryce Harper at 35 ounces. Oh shit. I was off playing a couple of damn. 15 more ounces. Oh my god.

That's incredible. Kick mule kick. Everyone just screaming. They actually asked Mule about

his legacy before he died. And what he say? To go circle. He said, I don't know. Don't think

What time? Yeah. Mule should have just been like, hey, someday I hope there's this thing called podcast in these fucking idiots happen to just stumble upon my name and when I get one last kick mule kick. Yeah. His direct quote about his legacy is, when I die, have a little thought for my memory, but don't mourn me too much. You got it, Mule. I love it. I did it. We didn't know. Check. Thought done. But actually, you don't have it, Mule. I'm going to be thinking about Mule

Settles tonight when I go to bed. I'm going to read some more about Mule Settles. So he's he unfortunately is now. He's getting more than a thought for me. I'm just going to be honest. Kick mule kick mule kick mule. He was a comb. He was a coal miner in Louisiana.

“Dude, these guys were just, I think about these guys back in the day. I know we're going”

on. We got it. We got to kick it back to ourselves for our great interviews and Mount Rushworth. These guys were like, what? 50 times, 100 times more men than us? Yeah. It's not even to say we're not even the same species. They were so much more manly that they would just be a coal miner for the winter and then they'd pick up a 50 ounce bat and everyone would yell kick mule kick and they would be playing like the third game in a day. He'd be playing his 27th inning and then he

hit a ball so far that it's scraped the moon. What do we do? Well, we we have to work with Mensee. So sure. Let's not act walking the park. Oh my god. What a legend. I need to learn more about mule subtles. Okay. Um, thank you, Max. Good call there. Good producing. Good showmanship to add that in. All right. Let's kick it to ourselves. We got hot sea cool throne. We've got Mount Rushworth and then we got both our interviews and guys on checks. Okay. Hot sea cool throne back in studio

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And for new tick pick customers take $20 off your first order with promo code PMT20 in the tick pick app. Terms apply that's PMT20 a check out for $20 off your first order. Okay, hot seat cool throne Henry. My hot seat are people hate on on athletes partying after after they lose. I can get with this early Holland obviously was like you know one of the top stories of the world cup. I feel like everyone that has social media was just getting fed Holland

Holland Hall and stuff and he was like pretty universally loved. I became a huge fan like I'm definitely one of those people. And look at you it's soccer sink it's teeth. I'm I'll I'm I'm into it. Like I'm I'm into it. I like the stars. He likes the party. Yeah. Yeah. But then he him and his teammates went to live I guess it came out like oh here's early Holland walked into live after nowhere lost and there was people being like oh he doesn't even care

the fans came more than the players. What is he supposed to do? Like he he they lost they were going back probably the next day. Yeah. They had just made the world cup for their country for the first time in like 30 years. It was a big accomplishment. It's the last time you're gonna be with this group anyway for like probably you know everyone's going back to their separate teams or separate ways like yeah why would you not go out in Miami? I maybe I haven't seen the same reaction that you have but I

“feel like Norway is still very very happy with Holland. Norway is but I think there's more people”

being like oh this is this is the wrong with players today like they don't care. It's cared more than the players like this. Well maybe back in the guys who were complaining today they didn't get invited to like a semi-nude nightclub after they lost a world cup. Like I guarantee you they

would take that opportunity. It's fully nude. 11? I've never been to 11. This all falls apart when you

see the parade that they threw for the players in Norway which is I see this loser energy just because it's like you're basically saying this is the best it will ever get but that's fine it might be the best that Norway will ever get but yeah they did a parade they did a whole rowing parade where everyone was out and celebrating that's fine celebrated but you can't then say oh he's not

it. Did you say bang that drum and then everybody said it all at once? I didn't see an MLS team

“trying to like copy it. Oh you can't do that. Don't do that. Don't do the don't be that guy”

that tries to you you saw cool celebration that doesn't mean that the Columbus crew or whatever should adopt the Norway row because the Norway row when they have the entire like when they took over time square yeah and you had like a hundred thousand Norwegians rolling in unison that was fucking cool. Did you see the one Norwegian fan that refused to row? I love that guy. He's like I don't row? No he said it was historically inaccurate. Oh well yeah he said they were they wrote in the

fjords but if they were traveling across the Atlantic which Norway did to go to play in the World Cup in America they would have sailed. Yep and he had and it was funny he did like an interview

super serious and he had to uh ors behind him. Yeah the vibe. And he's like I just refused to do it.

The vibe guy. He's like it's not what our history is we were we sailed. It's between that and ignoring the new Christopher Nolan movie that guy has had a hell of a week. Yeah and I loved I love the Viking row. I want to see more of it. I'm not upset at Holland. He was the best player in his team by far like they wouldn't have gotten that far without him and if you have any doubts as to how cool the guy Holland is he just went back to Norway with like three different

taxi-dermy to animals that are drinking beer. That was his that was his big purchase that he made in the United States. Some people go to like sax 5th Avenue. Some people go pick up some nice bags. No early Holland got like three raccoons stuffed and then they're holding these liquor bottles so they looked like they're getting hammered and that's his prize possession. That's his his uh one memory that he's going to keep from this World Cup. Yeah is those animals that will

“live on his shelf until he gets married. I'm sure his wife would be like you have to do something”

you have to keep it fucking right put him in the garage. They're not funny early. People don't love England but then having Oasis is tough to beat like them just being able to sing Oasis. Yeah like those videos are probably one of my favorite parts. We had a hypothetical on uh we could barcel today because Teebob was like we can't let England win the World Cup in America on the 250th anniversary. I don't care. That doesn't bother me. I would prefer not to be England.

Use yeah. Unless they do. I just thought I'm not. I'm not. I don't get him. We suck at soccer. I don't care. No. You will come bigger than sports. Listen I got I got two teams that I root for on uh the 250th anniversary of America. It's the U.S. and whoever's planning. Okay but hold on. I I agree with you I'd prefer if you told said who would you like to win out it would not be England. There would be the fourth team but will it will it like ruin your Sunday? No probably not. Yeah that's where

that I don't. If it be an Oasis probably not going to ruin my son it's because they've got the stink of being a loser for so long. Like if they were a dominant team if it was like a team that had actually won World Cup's recently. Right. Then I'd be like no not not on or two uh would you call it sesquicentini semi I don't know whatever you want to do in the 50. Also they were cows they didn't play us in the World Cup. Yeah they ducked just because they knew we'd tie the

fuck out just like we didn't guitar. Facts. And then my cool throne is I also had just technology and Mount Rush for what I'm assuming we'll get to that before the Mount Rush for. My cool throne is a guy from the bison video. Yeah we weren't sure when we recorded like I had seen some things

saying like he's in serious critical condition. Just a couple broken bones that he was joking

with the like the talk for that took the video like as he's waiting for the ambulance old guy asking us to get surgery but like he's good. Absolutely. That's great. I was I like as funny because I didn't want to say how funny the video was. I felt like I felt bad because it was like he's in serious condition. It was like this guy died. It's like I don't want to be joking. It's the funniest video I've seen in a long time. Like he he's a cartoon character. Yeah it's

it's so he he went so high in the air. I was afraid when we showed the video that he might die.

“Yeah that's why I was like I brought it up because it was like it was a great video but I was”

like I don't want to say how funny I thought it was because I didn't know if he was like dead. Ty just pointed out he did the ridiculousness logo. Like upside down in the air. Yeah I'm trying to think of what NFL players when they get hit flail like that like who have the most cartoonish hilarious violent hits when they take a hit you because for me there's one guy RJ3 when he got hit he got hit. Yeah it was like the maybe you could say maybe Jayden when he was at LSU the Looney Tunes

because he had no Looney Tunes one. But not anymore. Yeah. All right good good hotseed cool throne. Hank. Thanks. Good job, Hank. By some guy we can laugh. He laughed. What a stud. He's got story forever. Like that's awesome. He's just like hey check this out. I'm the guy you got. But and he was there he took his grandson there. Like his little little grandson. So it's like his grandson will now probably have like get to have that picture framed in his house being like yeah that's my grandpa.

His grandson has killed a bison. He's got it for the family. He's got it. We've had a few

My hot seat is the Philadelphia 76ers. No. Yeah. No. Okay. You read the book. I have.

So I know I know Hank is not going to like this because I know that you're a fan of Jill and Brown no matter what actually got him. I had to see him go. You love him. Apparently

“he hasn't spoken with Joel and Beads since he got traded to the 66ers. Oh boy. Who's his report from?”

Yeah. What wait. Hang on Max. I'm just wondering like are they okay? Joel and Beads and Jill and Brown are they on good terms because it feels like there's something weird there. Can I ask a follow up question? Has Joel and Beads. Well, Jill and Brown probably hasn't shouted at anyone. Yep. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Well, Trace and Begrady said that specifically and Bead and Jill and Brown haven't talked. Has Joel and Bead watched any of Jill and Brown's

twitches though because that's kind of like talking. Is he? Yeah. Is he a lurker? I don't know. If he was a commenter, that would be talking. When could because then Jill and was like, hey, chat. Yeah. Right. He under the chat umbrella. He's talking to Joel and Bead has included in that. So I saw him talk about how he had succeeded by the Maxi and he's talked to those guys. Yeah. Like we did a stream. He shouted. Shout out of those guys. I like made it a point.

And he didn't say in Beads name. He did not. Max? Gotta get him in a room. I mean, the season doesn't start for months. We're not worried about whether they've talked in July. Well, but like I think you'd like them to talk. Joel and Bead's a pretty active guy on social media. Like he taught me more. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question. He hasn't tweeted. What? He tweets about like soccer.

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(laughing) - Shoulda hoot. - All right.

- Osama would have been...

- They're free. - He would have been a force in that section from the court. - Shout out to free. - Hey, just prove it.

“What do you call when you run two bigs at the same time?”

- No. - No, okay, we don't do that. (laughing) - I mean, they were rivals for years. So I'm sure it's going to be a little bit of a adjustment period

for them to be pretty funny. - He's so funny. - So it's Tyre's turn. - No, no. - Years, both of a year.

- Not nearly as long as ever. - Both of a year. - And being in jail and Brown. - When you said years, when you put it, - All right.

- All right, how many years? - All right. - All right, dude. (laughing)

- All right, dude, means we're out.

- It's, Max, it's got to concern you a little bit. - Let them play together. Like it makes sense of someone of like two guys that have hated each other for a very long time. Like they're gonna have to grow into a relationship

for them to like, it makes sense. It makes sense to me. - Okay. - Like what if you got traded to the Kelsey podcast? - And I mean, you went out of your way to-- - You mean my only shout out Travis.

“- That's just, that's what we talked about.”

- Yeah, you would like, you would like the new addition to say something, right? I don't know. I guess I'm just more into building. - Yeah, in a perfect world, I wish

that they were all kumbaya from the start, but I get why maybe it wouldn't be from day one and that that relationship will grow together. - Okay. - Okay.

- Oh, you're closer. - I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. My cool throne is going to the bathroom with a boys. Who? Hitting the head, hitting the Lou with the boys is back.

It's also on the cool throne, because I don't know if you guys saw this, but every year in Australia and rugby league, they do the state of origin series. And it's like the biggest series back and forth between the two biggest provinces in Australia.

And at the game, on, I think it was last Wednesday night. There were two players from a local Australian rules football team that went to the game, like super star players named Jamara, Uglay, Hagen, and Mack Andrew.

So they go to the game together to support the squad. And somebody films them walking out of the individual family bathroom together. - Okay. - And they walked out, looked like they were having a good time.

- Okay. - And so that clip made the rounds. And so everyone's wondering like, "Hey, are they going to be disciplined for using the bathroom to get what could they have been doing?"

- Playing sword in that bathroom together. The beauty is we don't know what went on behind the scenes, but I actually love what they're doing, because the team, their team--

- It was disabled. - The bathroom is fat. - Can't walk?

- Oh, I thought I was reading it saying

“like the bathrooms weren't even working.”

- Oh, I was just wondering there. - No, the bathroom was able body. (laughing) But the idea for the bathroom is it should be for handicapped people.

- Got it. - That need different accommodations. - Got it. - I don't know if having an addiction to nosebears, follows under that accommodation.

- This is sexist. - Mm. - Yeah, women go to the bathroom all the time together. - I agree. - Good point, Hank.

- So the Gold Coast sons, they're the team. They said, "Yeah, you know what, boys will be boys, "we're not looking into it, we talked to them, "we've accepted their explanation, so we're gonna move on." - I love that.

- So I love that. - I love it too. - Look at their stars, they don't want to get bothered they go in together, kind of have some strength. And it's the same as when women do it.

- Exactly. - It's also, like I said, you play swords with your boys. - Yeah, so I'm glad. I'm glad that Common Sense has prevailed and in Australia, they still know how business is done.

- I like that a lot. - Yeah. - Okay, bathroom with my best content. - My hot seat is MLB reporter, Chicago reporter, Bruce Levine. - Because, oh boy, we haven't had one of these

in a long time if you missed it. Bruce covers the White Sox and the Cubs. He does radio hits on 67th of the score here in Chicago.

“And last night, he tweeted out a tweet that I believe”

was meant to be a DM or a text. And what he said was, you and the other coaches have been the stars of the team being 12 games over 500. Let's hope Twinkle D and Twinkle Dum. Don't sell you guys out like the 2025.

Enjoy the family time, pal. Whoops, Twinkle D and Twinkle D. Is he time at Twinkle D and Twinkle D and Twinkle D? - He is, and he's specifically talking about Jed Hoyer and Carter Hawkins, RGM.

So he, now people thought initially it was maybe to Craig Council. I actually don't think it was to Craig Council. I think it was probably to one of the other coaches on staff and yeah, we haven't had one of these

in a long ass time. This is like, remember when tweet to text was a thing, when people would do this, I'm getting there, all that stuff. It's just good to be like a little throwback here. And he left it up for like 20 minutes and then deleted it.

But yeah, he's talking, it's the double whammy of, he's talking shit about Jed Hoyer and Carter Hawkins and also kind of trying to suck up. And it's the lamest like suck-up ever. And it's so funny that he tweeted it.

It is very funny, has he apologized? - I have not seen it. We invited him on Wakeup Barstool this morning. He did not reply. - Okay. - I was shocked to find out that he did not.

No, looks like his last tweet is still the homerunterby

whenever he sees one million dollars.

Yeah, I love this. It's just real old school shit. And now he has to go sit in like the Cubs press conferences. And knowing Jed Hoyer and Carter Hawkins, I think they'll lean into it.

They might dress up like him. They should do the propeller hats. - Yeah, they might dress up like him and be like, Bruce, what's your first question? - The propeller hats are twinkle-d and twinkle-d.

- I'm more concerned the fact that he thinks the names are twinkle-d and twinkle-d. - Yeah, yeah, is it twitled-d? - Twitled-d, twitled-d. - Yeah, twinkle-d and twinkle-d, what are the--

- That might also be an auto-correct. He wouldn't have gotten double whammy done.

“- What are tw-what are twitled-d and twitled-d and twitled-dum from?”

- They're like the, I don't think twins. - Humpty, don't they? - Uh, like snow white or something? - Yeah, they're little fat twins. - Yeah, look at those guys.

- What are they from? - That's really, that might be the oldest thing you could do is-- - I'll lose, uh, lose Carol. - So it was Alice in Wonderland. - Did you look in glass?

- So he hit the, he hit the cycle for old shit. - Yeah. - Accently tweeting something while also referencing something from like a thousand years old. - And Miss Spelling it probably due to auto-correct

that he didn't check. - I just, uh, he, I really wish I had a live came on him because, again, he's a long time reporter and he now has to go face these guys knowing that like he's the type of guy who just talked shit

behind your back and be a total suckup to the coaches. The coach is also a little bit like, what is that coach been saying to be in a conversation that it's okay to say that? - It sounds pretty familiar to say that.

- Yeah. - This is something that you don't just throw that out there to a coach. - It's gonna be awkward for a bit. - About their boss without knowing that

it's gonna be received in a certain way. - Right. - Right. - So yeah, that was a fun one from Bruce, from good old Bruce.

All right, my cool throne is the first is

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- A second. - Pete second.

- That's right. - First go.

- Yeah, so ESPN released a Cubulus with their rankings

“from coaches, execs, and I believe players.”

And PFT and Max, you guys are no longer on the top 10. - That's fine. - Did not expect it this year. - So when I spent, I spent all last off season policing watching like a hawk.

I'm glad that my watch is in a temporarily. - Yeah. - So when Josh Almone, Mahomes to, I don't know, that's not it. Wait, Josh Almone, Mahomes to Stafford

to rejoberal for Lamar Jackson 5, Dak Prescott 6, what? Justin Herbert 7, Drake May 8, Jared Golf 9, Caleb Williams 10. - Hank, where I'm the top 10.

- They must have seen that picture, Dak Prescott. - Yeah. I like being 10, 10's nice spots. 'Cause this is like, hey, we're still a lot of work to be done. 10's a good spot.

I, dacks too high. - Dacks too. - I'm just gonna say, dacks way too high. - Herbert's too high. - I mean, Herbert, it is pretty crazy

because her, he still hasn't won anything. - I wanna know what he was last year. Was he even lower than 70 improved? - I'm, I'm using this as motivation because the way I look at this QB list,

if you pull it back up, the guys on the left side,

“the top five guys, those are guys that are like,”

that's MVP or Super Bowl guys, right? So that's where it's like, this is the meat of it. Sixth through, it should just be six through 15 'cause it feels like those can be interchangeable, like Jail and Hertz of Jain Daniels being in it

last year than being out of it this year. That's, so you gotta get yourself to the left hand column. So I'm using this motivation. - You get to the left hand column and then it's hard to get knocked out of the left.

- Correct, yeah. - Yeah, the six through 10 is like, that's a fluid situation. - Jerry goff should be higher too. - You had a good, direct, direct full of Jerry.

- Jerry should be, where deck is? - Yeah, Jerry should be six. - Yeah, Jerry goff if you look at his staff

since he's joined the lines outside that very first year.

But his recent stats, he's been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. You can't really make an argument otherwise. But we will do our QB list in the next couple of weeks. Official QB list.

Are you, Max BFT, are you, are you guys surprised if you like, fuck it, we're, work to be done. - Now Jail and Hertz is the most disrespectful player in the NFL when he plays that his best when he's like this.

- So you're happy? - Yeah, yeah. - 100%. - Jail and Hertz is gonna have an MVP year this year. - MVP?

- 100%. - 100%. - He's gonna win MVP or MVP year. - He'll be in the conversation. - Well, we're having it right now.

- Correct. - So he's in it. - So check, he doesn't have to play this year. - I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year. - Oh, okay.

- I'm not upset that Jail is not, he should be on it after last year. Like I'd be delusional to say that he had a top 10 year where I would expect to see him on this list. His rookie year, yeah, I was looking at the top 10.

It's making sure that JD5 was up there. But no, I'd have to get my head examined if I was like standing on a table being like Jail and Daniel should be a top 10 quarterback going to this year. But Zach, or you upset a picker may feel's not on there.

I guess I could ask Sam for you, memes, Gino. Is it Gino? - It is Gino. He had a bad year last year. He's gotta prove everybody wrong.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Bigger's pushing through a lie injury last year. Now he's all healthy. It should be good.

- Okay. - I saw an interesting step in cat. - Yeah. - Our good friend, now Zach, this doesn't, it's not so much about you.

It's mostly about our friend Stephen Che that likes to tell us how the Tampa Bay Bucks have been the best team in the 2000s. - 2020s. - Sorry, okay. So since 2010, he's, I know, I know.

- Since 2010, the Cleveland Browns have the most fourth place division finishes with 10. And second place is the Jats with eight. And third place with seven, it's me, it's you, the cardinals and the Bucks.

- Mmm. - Pretty crazy. - Yeah. - I hadn't, I guess, on the years and there.

“- How bad they were, did you cut our years or whatever?”

- Yeah. - That's some tough season Tampa Bay in the 2010s. - Yeah. - But they're, they're one of the best franchises in the last six years.

- Mmm. - Yeah, that's a pretty COVID, you know, it's ancient history. - Right. - Right. - But you did win a COVID Super Bowl for being fair.

- Yeah, the disease was out there, yeah. - Mm-hmm. - It was out there.

- It's always, I mean, it's amongst us now, you never know.

- Yeah, it's true. - Great win, what a win. - Long COVID, yeah. - Every Super Bowl, here, here forward is a COVID Super Bowl. - Yep.

- That's what scientists are saying. - Mm-hmm. - All right, your hot seat, cool to run, Zach? - Oh, my hot seat this week is gonna be toilets. Did you guys see we have a parasitic intestinal disease

sweep in the nation? - Yeah. - And it started in Michigan. - I think it did start in Michigan. They have a 8,000 confirmed cases right now.

- Yeah. - It's just diarrhea. - But it's long, it's a long, it's a long diarrhea. - What does that mean? - You have it for a long time.

- Oh, it's like hospitalization diarrhea. - This is term I just made up. It's, yeah. - So do I have it? - We might have on day two right now.

- Okay.

“- I've had a bad day today, but I don't know if that's just”

food related.

- What worries me is that there's diarrhea.

It's gotta be really bad if this, this many people are going to the ER for diarrhea. - But what doesn't worry you-- - You don't have, don't get diarrhea as I go on. This might be a problem.

- Whoops, I go on. - It must be, in case I hold on to diarrhea. - What doesn't bother me is that if you had to say there's one thing this entire room is well-versed in, it'd be diarrhea, like we're hardened soldiers.

- That's good point. You know what I mean? - I need to see the client tell that's going to the ER because Michigan feels like diarrhea state. (laughing)

- Oh, can't give me your top four diarrhea states. - It's all around Wisconsin, Michigan. - Oh no, it's got too much cheese in the United States. - What about Mississippi? - Arkansas.

- Arkansas. - Arkansas. - Yeah. - Big time diarrhea. - Yeah.

- But midwest, midwest feels like they should know

how to handle their, their rear.

- Oklahoma, sneaky diarrhea state. - South Carolina's diarrhea. - Yeah. - Louisiana has to be one.

“- Louisiana's maybe the number one diarrhea state.”

- Like gumbo? - Yeah. - It's where Louisiana is. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- And so let's put that on the graph and top diarrhea states. (laughing) - We go higher? - Ohio's there? - Yeah, well Ohio's there.

- Yeah, well they were one of, it was Michigan and Ohio. - Yeah, actually. - It's got, yeah, you kidding me? - Yeah, it just runs right through. It looks the same.

- But what I'm saying is, Ohio, especially you think that the people of Ohio know at a hand a little bit of diarrhea. - Right. - If they're going to the-- - Right.

- I still don't understand. - It must be serious. - If it was like, if it was like, oh, we have reports of like some Californians going to the ER for diarrhea, it's like, nothing.

- Nothing, nothing. - What are you doing? - Yeah, it was a little, you had a, a, a, a floater. - Michigan or Ohio are football state. - You're kidding me.

- Those are football states. - Yeah, states and diarrhea states are synonymous. - Yes, big, big tank country. - Yeah. - Oh, Missouri is a diarrhea.

- Oh yeah. - Big time. - Yeah. - St. Louis, diarrhea. - Oh, maybe big time.

“- That might be, number one diarrhea city.”

We should break it down by city too. Baltimore might be a diarrhea city. - Oh yeah. - The crab right on the bed. - Yeah, right on the bed.

- Yeah, right there right in the harbor. - Yeah, that just smell like the smell in the air. - Filly, smell in the, oh yeah. - Filly's diarrhea. - Pittsburgh actually Pennsylvania is a big time diarrhea state.

- I'm kind of thinking, Pennsylvania might be top five max. - Yeah. - Yeah, we know how to handle the rear for sure. (laughing) - We need a map.

We need maxes map on states that can handle diarrhea. - I am worried about this explosive diarrhea stuff because it sounds, it's, it's sending some, some hardened buttholes to the ER. - I'm not, sounds like a free diet.

I like that angle where it's like, you could lose a quick five, right? But if it's like, shitting to near death, how long can you be on the throne? - Oh, we can do the podcast about that.

- I can play Eucor and Cribbage on my phone forever. - If this podcast got it and we just had to do Zoom episodes from the shitter. - It would work. (laughing)

- It would work. - People would tune in. People would definitely tune in for those episodes. - Yeah, do you play against somebody when you play Eucor and Cribbage?

- It's just computer. - It's just computer. - I just signed up on chest.com. - Nice. - And I've been on a real chest kick for the last 24 hours.

- Yeah. - It's a problem. - A big car game guy just found just past the time. - I play Eucor during the day. I play Cribbage at night, right before I go to bed.

Kind of just exhaust all the mental energy, right before I go to bed. - You guys are playing Rummy? - Rummy? - Yeah. - Great game.

- Great game. - All right, you're cool, Throne? - Cool for those weeks in me, Adrian Bronner. Former, four time boxing belt fighter, world belt, contender, Adrian Bronner in 36 now.

He's gonna, he says he got one more shot. I know this didn't go well the other day with Connor at 38. Adrian Bronner's 36. He's gonna lock himself in to a warehouse 45 day straight on live and just get back right and try to see if he can

win another title fight. - I'm gonna say nope, I will, that's a good guess, but I will say it's impressive. The muscle memory is guys have 'cause he's on like day seven. It looks like he's lost 55 pounds.

It's like fighters have to fight and their prime is their prime. And then you like walk away, it's over. Especially if you have money. It's a whole like you can't, you can't do road work and silk pajamas.

You can mark right where Connor McGregor's career

took a nose dive is when he made $100 million

fighting Floyd Mayweather. - I think Bronner might be back hunger 'cause I don't know if he has the most money anymore. - Got it. - Okay, so then yeah, so that could make the hunger.

- Yeah, just seem pretty impressive, I don't know. - He's just doing a live stream for TV. It's got day straight. - So this is just boxing is now just Mr. Beast. Kind of sorta, but not to the same scale.

Like it's, I would assume Mr. Beast to the boxing room would be like in a big bubble. This is just a warehouse. Just two days of quitting alcohol. - This is why I kind of wish I drank more

so I could just quit it and lose weight. I seriously think about that all the time.

- Yeah, but if that's two, three days, it looks like he dropped 40 pounds.

“- Yeah, I just don't remember how I got it.”

- I'm so jealous of people like, oh yeah, I went sober for a month. I dropped 30 pounds. - I don't have that. - I don't have that in my bag.

- I'd have to quit ice cream and I'm not gonna do that. - But, right, that's the problem. - Yeah. - Okay, I've done that for like the last six days and I've been waking up pissed off.

- Ice cream? - Yeah. - Why'd you quit ice cream? - I got a lock in for at least 90 days. - Oh, it had nothing to do with the fact the ice cream machine that I bought was down for two weeks.

- We're all way back up though. I got your ice cream. - You just hope back now.

- I've never mentioned it.

That's not what it was, it was, we're back up. - Okay. - We got you, dialed, two flavors. - Oh, also, today, Wednesday, I'm the guest host for the Geosporz game.

- Oh, no, go play it online. I wrote all the questions today. So if you know anything about me, you'll probably be able to get some of them right. - I love that.

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You know, this is one of the good summers. - Yeah. - Were there some bad summers

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that we could live the rest of our life in. So the prompt here is basically you get four places, and you have to live it. You can't, you can't, you can't leave. And these are the four stores.

The updated standings. We max memes that I won by 2%. 0.2%, but the poll says we had 40%.

Yeah, the desktop is always what we go off

because it actually gives you decibels. Yeah, we can do the full. We know that. Hank, you know that. Yeah, I could tell that you didn't even mean that protest.

Yeah, you knew that. You knew that when you said it. You follow the protest because you kind of had to, but you had, you threw a red flag that was out of frustration. Yeah, I just saw 40% and you guys at 39%

and it didn't make sense to me. We won the by 0.2% very tight one. And now we're gonna do Mount Rushmore of stores, slash restaurants, you could live the rest of your life in. Hank, in Zachara first, then PFT, then Max memes and I.

This is either gonna go really bad or okay. I'm probably bad because when this is when I don't know between the two, it's not the best one. We're gonna go with Costco. All right, that's a great pick.

All right, one, one, one, thank God. All right, that makes you feel better. That's everything has everything. If you're living in there for the rest of your life, they have activities, they got trampolines,

they got lazy river. Grilled stuff, they got lazy river. One one. We had it as our one more. If you were good about it, I don't know why you were.

That was the obvious one.

I know, but I never know.

Max, when you lose as much as we do, you can't push it. Through your face, you guys are seeing ghosts. Close, yes, every supplement, we're winning, we're losing, we're losing.

Like, hot, what are we supposed to do? Yeah, okay, good pick. They got really good alcohol there too. Shout out, Costco brand alcohol. Hop on a bike, just ride around Costco.

Get your exercise, they get exercise equipment too. Mm-hm. Uh, so it's me. Yeah, all right, I'm going to go with Magic City. Oh, strip club with great food.

Okay, okay, be pretty good. Pretty good place to go. Yeah, no, I don't hate that. Yeah, why down the whole lifespan, I hate it. Yeah, it's good pick.

Uh, what do we do here to boys? Two, two and then one and a half. Yep, yep. Okay, so we, we like, we were going to go Costco. So good pick, Hank, we'll go with similar Walmart has everything.

Everything. It has food, it has TVs, it has the games, it has watch games, it has video games, it has everything. Yeah, it's in this, it's in hot dogs.

Yeah, they do have them. Yeah, come to the subway. Yeah, come to the subway. I talked to them. Yeah, yeah.

We got it on.

“We have a close, we have a bottle doctor if there's a subway in there.”

Yeah. You want to fish? Yeah. Want to pitch a tent? It's in there.

And then our second pick was, we were very excited about this because we thought of it late. Dave and Busters will be our second pick, you could just stay in there forever. Is it good? You got an arcade, you got food, you got booze.

Oh, restaurant. Yep. Yeah. It's a restaurant and arcade and booze. And a bar.

Yeah. It's exactly what you want if you're staying in a place forever. All right, got my, my number two overall still on the board. Dick sporting goods or sporting goods. That's where we were going before we thought of.

Yeah. David Busters. It would rock. You could do any activity you wanted in there. Yeah.

We never run out of stuff to do.

We had Dick's on a list and we thought of David Busters like shit. David Busters. Like if you were stuck in a David Busters, that'd be a lot of fun. Yep. But Dick's is a great pick.

The smell, too. Yeah. If you've got a new secret. I run around. I feel like the smell is going to be a big part of where you'd want to spend the

rest of your life. And that's a great smell. Zack. Got the balls act. We like take the win.

Oh, the casino. I don't think that counts. Is a store restaurant? You can take it. You can take it.

No, you can take it. I'm okay with it. You can just lose all your money. What? You can take it.

Like the casino. You can take it. Your one first pick was a strip club. Yeah. I didn't.

“If you're saying we would lose all our money, you also would lose all your money.”

No, but that's an investment hand.

You'd actually be getting something for. We could actually win. Get also. But that's just a hotel. You have to pick a specific spot.

Thoughts on the win pool bar. You got the win. You got the win. You guys think it's that bad of a win. The win looks terrible.

Okay. That's the pool bar. All right. No, no, you have to win. I was just trying to follow the rules.

You have to win. The win. Further backs and memes. Keep saying you got it. You got it.

I was going to fight it. But yeah. They got it. It's fine. And then.

This is, yeah, I don't know. I'm thinking, because I'm thinking, we have the different places you, like, we already have Costco. We already have a thing in a Costco, we got gambling. I'm going to take Carbone Miami.

Oh, good restaurant. Good restaurant. Good scenery. Mm-hm. Lots of beautiful women in there.

It'd be a good place to eat dinner every night for the rest of your life. Okay.

“A lot of great looking women with all their clothes on there.”

Yeah. Good pick. But like an actual, actual menu. It's not just wings. Yeah.

I mean, magically he's got it. They got him in you. Do they? Yeah. I hate it.

It's a good pick. Thank you. It's a really good pick. Is it my turn? Yeah.

All right. I'm going to go Sam's Club. Okay. Sam's Club. Yep.

Yep. It's the brother of, uh, tasker. Yep. Yeah. Okay.

Uh, you guys feel good about those last two? I like 13 in the one that you said. Okay. All right. Which one do you want to go first?

13. All right. Can't believe Hank let it slip. You say it. PJ superstore.

Oh, yeah. We'll be very fun to have forever. If you got all, if you got all these things right now, we got grocery store bar restaurant video games golf. Yeah.

I'll say it. If I was stuck inside of the rest of my life, like, I don't know. Golfing on a simulator would not. I don't know how much I'm talking about. It would just be choice of golfing on a simulator or not.

Not golfing. But like, no, no. Cosco has clubs. They got nuts. Like you could, you could do this.

You could.

I always see you try to do that in a net.

Over and over. You have fun with that. That's what a simulator is. Okay. Nice part about tick sporting goods as they have golf simulators and a lot of them.

We should get rid of the simulator and our office and just make it a net. [laughter] The simulator's better, but it's it's it's it's it's it's good for when you can't go up. But in this scenario, you can't go up. So like.

Alright, what's what's our last pick? What are we thinking? Talk it out. I like I like the one that that you texted. I think that it's up to eight, twelve.

And. Eighteen. We're my picks. Memes? Help us out.

Twelve it twelve is good. Twelve is really good. Twelve is good. Twelve is fun. I think it's twelve.

Twelve is fun. Twelve is fun. Alright, we'll do Bass Pro Shop. Okay. Yeah.

Get everything in there. Good pick. This is some water. You can swim with the fishes. Yeah.

You just go fish. I love our less. You can make it. I love our less. You can make it.

You can make it.

My last pick. I'm going mattress firm. Yep.

“That's where nice place to fall asleep there.”

You got your pick of the most luxurious mattress.

None of these other places have a real solid place to fall asleep. So I feel like mattress firm. Get the pillow top going. You can even spice things up. Like mix up your mattresses week to week.

Yep. mattress firm. Yep. All right. Zach.

We would like to take MC theaters. Oh. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. That's a good pick.

Yeah. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. That's great value. That's a good pick.

Yeah. I didn't think about that, but that's a very good pick. Yeah. Similar to that, Shane may be the worst answer ever. We say.

Shane just threw it out there. We didn't ask for his help. He just threw it. He said blockbuster. Oh, God.

I actually don't know how. How one, right? Not only that. But even if you did like the peak blast blockbuster, they didn't have like TV's.

You could just sit there and watch movie.

They never like furniture.

They could sit on. It just get best bought. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah.

It was in the upper right hand corner that didn't have a good picture. It was something wrong with it. Just a terrible terrible pick. Yeah. We should have a look.

You could look at a lot of discs. I'm because we're not from Shane's region. As we learned with the tuna. I'm sure his blockbuster had. Everything.

Everything. Every video game. All right. That's a real mentions. Target was also kind of the.

People are going to be pissed. Target wasn't picked. Everyone had their. Yeah. We all had our big.

We all had our our superstar. Sam's club. Yeah. Costco and Walmart. I had Cabela's on the list.

Just because the firearm situation there. Yeah. And then Spencer's gifts. Ooh.

Can you probably got some stuff you could fuck.

Yeah. We were going back and forth between Bass Pro shops and Bed Bath and Beyond. Yeah. That's a good smelly store. Are those.

Are those. Are those. Those closed down though? No. I think there's nothing beyond.

I think a lot of them may have closed down. Yeah. Cheesecake factory would have been the restaurant. Just because the menu is so. Yeah.

So big. Chillies. We back. And I both said chillies right away. Which.

Yeah. And out of business for three years. Oh, wow. RIP. We still on.

Oh, maybe it's only online now. Yeah. Good thing we didn't pick it up. Oh, I would you guys think about. Ikea.

No. Fuck that. You have to assemble all the stuff. Well, some of it's assembled. A lot of it's already assembled.

Yeah, but those are all this over. But you also. But you also get the food court. Yeah. Yeah.

“If you go the bathroom, you have to go back through the whole maze.”

True. Good point. Good point. Just a regular diner would be cool. Diner began.

Yeah. Be regular there. Well, we had Bucky's Wawa. Puffle wild links. We'll be awesome.

Puffle wild links came circa 2007 with the trivia. Yeah. That would rock. Yeah. This is tough golf.

This is going to. Aegis PFT. But I threw this one out there. I got no response. But sharper image would be kind of cool.

They got cool shit. They're sitting in the sauce chair and just play with gadgets all day. Like Brookstone. Yeah. Yeah.

You could spend a lot of time in sharper image. I could not get bored. I feel like we should have taken top golf. Top golf would have been a good pick. Yeah.

But do you get the outside golf? Yeah. And you at least get some air. Yeah. Top golf would have been good.

Yeah. Okay. Good mouth restaurant. We feel good about it. Yeah.

I love Zack. Zack pulled AMC at the end. That was a huge point. AMC was great. Made up for the win.

Yeah. What's wrong with the win last week? It's like it's a great place. It might be the most niche place that you could possibly pick. A casino?

You said the win. No win. casino? No. You said the win.

What's in the lobby of the win? The win. The pick is the win. Okay. Oh, gotcha.

I mean, they do have, they've got very comfortable rooms. I just don't think it's, I don't just don't think very many people have been to the win. Casinos, they got restaurants, they got a pool, they got. It's not a bad pick. Yeah.

No.

“I think in terms of logic, it is a very good pick.”

I don't know how it's going to play. But I guess that's why we do the pool. What, what, Amazon were how to play? Hmm. Or is that, like, is that no bathrooms though?

But can the public go into, like, can the public just go into it? You just be in the way of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They do, you would have everything that you need there. Did you guys ever see that movie with a Channing Tatum that did this? He used Kate from jail and then he went to and lived in a Toys R Us for, like, four months. That's pretty certain. That's an elite movie.

Yeah. It's a good movie. So good. Yeah. Yeah.

I was trying to think, like, there's not much, I guess you could do, like, a, could do point of fitness.

Yeah. Yeah.

That would actually, if you have a planet fitness with the basketball court, that's a mess.

That's good. Thanks for doing good. You can do that. Yeah. Yeah.

What about, like, a sofa food court? Would you be able to get the field? Like, we take the, you're just taking a stadium? We take the food court. It's so fine.

You get the field too.

“No, I think if you take the food court, you probably just get the food.”

You just get the food court. Yeah. If you say, I'm, I'm taking the sofa food court. I think you're going to take, like, I think you're going to take in the state. You could have said the sofa stadium.

So if I stayed in, but I think you get everything if you get it. Yeah. But there's, I don't know why you would, you would, but it's a fight. Yeah. Yeah.

You, the move would be to take a baseball, because you get more entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. You know, 81 games. Yeah.

I mean, yeah. I would have been a good, I would have been a good, yeah, honestly. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

But I'm just saying, like, you, it's still operating normally. You only get whatever, nine Sundays. Mm-hmm. Pardon me, thought these plays were empty. That's on me.

I thought we were going in like where the only one in there. Yeah. I guess that is true.

“We are the only, that's how I was operating too.”

I was the way I changed it there. Magic City would probably wouldn't be the best place. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah.

Fair point. I'm going to need those titties. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to our interview.

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It is seven-time Sion winner, Roger Clemens, the rocket. Here, American Century Championship, ready for the golf tournament.

“Does it ever get old, having someone say seven-time Sion winner?”

Not at all, just pretty insane. Yeah, keep saying it's awesome. Yeah, I tell people anybody can win one, right? Right, yeah, I could win one. Sure.

Was there a moment? Was there a moment? Was there a moment when you were on the answer? When you were on like four or five, you were like, that's probably it for me. Well, with the four boys, a little pressure now because the first one went to Kobe, my oldest.

And then I won the next one, it went to Cory. And then I said, you know, I can't stop here because the next one, you know, I got two other young ones. And the youngest one, as you guys may remain, I know, is with the Minnesota twins. Yep. So I'm going to make you guys push super hard.

We had a guy get injured and he's kind of being talked, like, to go to Philadelphia. So I know you guys all started. I know you guys know all the GMs. Yeah, make some phone calls. Yeah, I'll do my best on that one.

And one thing, I think big cat left out.

Maybe your most important accolade.

You had the longest twilight of any career. Thank you so much. You got this mess around a day. This is going to be a good one. We're going to let it fly.

Yeah. Do cat wanted his own team and everybody's like, oh, you left Boston with you. I said, guys, I didn't leave Boston. I was ready to go. And I think I had my second 20 strikeout game was my second.

The last start with the redstock. So I was really washed up. I've only punched out 20 guys. I guess I was supposed to punch out 27. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then the cat says, good luck in the twilight. You're creating. It was a frigging long twilight.

Yeah. But yeah. You're one of those guys. You're circled.

Yeah. You couldn't convince me like tomorrow.

“If I saw a press release being like, Roger Clem is going to come back again.”

I'd be like, probably can. What could you throw right now? They're only going for it. Yeah, I know. That's right.

But what could you tell me guys, if I would do the worst mistake I made in the last three years. Believe it or not, boys, I'm going to be 60 frigging for this year. But worst mistake I made was pitching for the Savannah bananas. Oh, no. I hold body here, man.

I was just supposed to throw out the first pitch.

And I told Jesse, yeah, give me an old man's wig. And a rocker. And I'll go out there and rip it off. Fans will go crazy. I'll throw you one in there about eight in.

Because that would be awesome. But I'd really like for you to pitch. And I go, are you? You know what? Crazy.

So I did it. Got through it. But I had to sit in a nice tank for three days. My whole body here. How many things did you go?

I went one. Some of it. Max went. Yeah. What?

Two. Yeah, again. This is your little bananas. Tell me how bad you're elbow. I catch one.

Tell me how bad that elbow hurt. Yeah. I was pitching like a position player at the end of the game. Oh, I was just trying to get. You were throwing the air cutter.

Oh, yeah. That gets people out. I didn't. I got a lot of, well, my, my defense wasn't the best. It was a lot of the guys here.

But I got a lot of that. I love it. It's been out. A lot of airs. But no.

It's good that you went out there. That's showing me something right there. Okay. What's, all right.

“So what's, what's a cockier move being a pitcher named the rocket?”

Or naming all your sons with the first letter K?

Well, it's got to be with the rocket. Because the boys give me grief that say, Dad, you name just all with the letter K. We're all hitters. Yeah. You made true.

What are you going to do? Yeah. Did you think about naming any of them with the backwards K? Would that be even beyond all that? Tell what have been said.

I think my next grand kid backwards K. I might have tell my son who just had one of my, Clyde. Wait, so are they, are they sticking with this Clyde with the C? Oh, yeah.

I know. Okay. I see might be a hitter who knows. Yeah. But you know, that's a great.

That's a good. I mean, you can do anything with names these days. Yeah. And put a jaw in it, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Did you ever walk around like calling yourself the rocket in third place? Right. I, when Bruce first gave me my nickname in 86 when I struck out 20 for the first time. And another one that anybody can do once, right?

Yep. You did a twice. Yeah. Plentize for these. Yeah.

And then they'll be the show. Yeah. They said, I don't know about that, but they say I'm pretty nasty on there. Yeah. It's a fact.

Mr. Splittie still making appearance. It is a little bit. Yeah.

“So I mean, tell us where he gave you nickname.”

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So I'm going to say that. So I'm going to say that. So I'm going to say that. So you say you suck to yourself. That's Roger.

But if it's rocking. There you go. I can say that.

I've never said that then.

You also hit a home run in the majors. What was that like? I'm not sure where you went on the internet. But I get ridiculed for never hitting a home run. You never hit a home run.

I read. I read. I read a minute. Wait a minute. So I got to tell you the close ones.

At least in it. She stayed in right center field. Hit it good. I got it lower fence. Almost missed first base because I was eyeballing it.

I had to hustle back to first. I got a long single. And then Colorado. Of course. Yeah.

You know, they got the wall that goes up high. If I hit it, freaking one foot to the left. I had one. But I got a double out of that one. And of course, all the guys are cheering me up.

Because here I am like 44 years old. And I made contact. And so they're cheering me up. And I'm giving it back to them. And all of a sudden.

I'm really. It's got. I can't breathe. Man, I'm trying to. I'm been over.

I'm saying, please. I know the camera's on me. I can't freaking breathe. Well, there's some good stats hitting stats out there, though. There really are.

I mean, I got the highest batting. Ted Williams. It's been way apart. Mm-hmm. I got the highest batting average finway.

Not Ted. I'm one for one. I'm batting a thousand. There you go. Our DH ran his head into the green monster and had to come out of the game.

So the pitcher had to hit. So that was me. And then another good trivia. My buddy brought up. Was.

I got to bang my chest a little bit. Boys because I got my. My boys are going to be. Well, all my boys are going to be watching. Yeah.

Any time I talk to my boys about hitting, they look at me go. Hey, pops. Stay in your lane.

You're a good runner. I count for something. Hey. Small ball. I love this.

Yeah. I'm going to stay here long. You guys. I might have to make a comeback. I got a staff for you since we're going to do some good stats.

Did you know that in the 2005 season? I think that was your last. I young year, right? Pretty close. Yeah.

Yeah. I just finished a game with an ERA higher than 1.89. Yeah. That's pretty insane. Okay.

Do you want to be my agent? So tell me about that. We come back. I want you to list you. Well, you're going in the room.

Yeah. It's a blinder ready. But the fuck's got Boris. We got this for you. So right.

“But in that season, are you like, did you just feel it all season?”

We were like, I'm in the zone. And I just know it was it partially. They just seen the game for so long. You knew what to do. No, it was with the Astros.

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't want to jam on my teammates. Pretty much, if I gave up one, I'm getting a no decision. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We had some, we had some good hitters and I tease him. We had some guys that were allergic to leather too. They had a hard time catching the ball.

That's true. That helps. All right. Yeah. That's true.

You played on some amazing teams too.

Some of the best teams. Is there one that you still think back? That was probably the best team that I've ever seen? Well, the political answer would be when it asked me about teams I played on. The long horns Texas, you know, playing at Texas was awesome.

I kind of, you know, you learned how to win there. We didn't rebuild. We reloaded at Texas, kind of like what the Dodgers are doing. Was it all you could read? He coached my sons.

He's the winningist coach. I played for the winningist coach Cliff Gustas in at that time. All right. Lost on Miami. And when I was a sophomore came back my junior.

I beat Alabama. Then I get drafted by Boston. Probably one of the better teams. I'm trying to think. It comes up a lot with my boys.

The best game that I've ever pitched was,

“and I think Bob Costa is just calling him because I went.”

I did some work last week for NBC Sunday night baseball. Cost is probably the game I pitched in Seattle against a Mariners team. I think 114 games something like it crazy. So they were pretty solid. They were rolling pretty good.

So I pitched one of my best playoff games ever against those cats. And, but yeah, I mean, it was, I mean, there's, you know, I, you know, I, I feel real blessed and fortunate, man. So I played 24 years. So I faced guys like, I mean, I hope you guys remember something.

Dom Baylor. Kingman. Luzinski. Fisk. George Brett.

Kyle Rippkin. Man face Rippkin so many times. He's got eight different batting stances.

And I, there's nothing I can throw one out man on third.

And I'm trying to get him to punch out and hit a ground ball. Next thing you know, he spreads out. And so you're paying attention to detail. And guys make a little adjustment. And then go all the way through to guys like pool holes.

And, you know, all these other dudes I put, I ended up facing at the tail end of my career. So it was, it was pretty cool to face my favorite. To face, I wanted to make it to the big leagues face Reggie Jackson. Yeah. Yeah.

And, you know, Reggie's my guy. And I, I got to face, I didn't even want to make eye contact with him. He came to play it half-shell helmet. And glassy had a handkerchief in his back pocket. And I'm telling you, I was sitting at about like 90.

My arm was a little under water sitting about 93. 94. Reggie steps in now, batting number 44, Reggie. And 98, 98, punch out 98. I mean, one point Reggie pulled out his handkerchief.

I threw that crap by him. Rips his glasses off and he starts clean. I say, hey, he can't see me. He can't see me. And so I tell the story.

Reggie knows the story how fond I am of him and great player. And, of course, my guy's on the mound was, I watched Nolan Ryan being from Houston. I still, we still live five, six miles from my high school. So watching Nolan, you know, I snuck in the dome to watch him. No, you know, he's throwing 95, but in the afternoon it sounds like 105.

And then, of course, I got the privilege to play with Tom Seaver. Mm-hmm.

“We traded for Tom Terrific, who I think is the ultimate power pitcher.”

I'm a power pitcher. I don't throw. Uh, and Seaver was the best at that. I like that. You don't throw.

I don't throw. I think you think the new radar guns would have you at. Because they've changed. Yeah, it's true. It's true.

Back when I was getting it, I threw over a hundred of a bunch of time.

But I never pitched that speed because you make mistakes.

Mm-hmm. And for the most part, guys, my youngest one, he loves that gas. And most, for the most part, the big league guys can, one, I say, put wood on a bullet. I mean, they're that good. Pitching's like buying property or house, location, location, location, location.

You got a locate. Then you want your movement. The velocity's great. It's last. And these guys throw a hundred. I mean, that missed kid and me. I got good Lord.

Yeah. I mean, this ridiculous. And, uh, you just hope some of their body can, you know, sustain that. Right. We're kind of losing the, the prototype that you were the house.

The, the guy who's like, he's a big guy. He's a intimidating guy. He goes up on the mound. He throws eight innings. He's just, just going to show. It feels like, yeah, like, school will still that guy. But there's not a lot.

Is there a certain guy that you love watching Pitch now? Sure, sir. Was that guy? Yeah. We're like, big time. If the Pitching coach came out to the mound

You know, what the hell you're doing out here?

Get back in the dugout.

“But yeah, complete gains. I think I don't know if there's going to be a 300 game winner.”

Um, you know, a lot, a lot of that holds true. I mean, but they're, you know, there's some bulldogs out there. Still, they're trying to finish. But your mechanics are so important. You know, if you're a reliever, you can come out of the bullpen for 12, 15 pitches.

And I tease them. Some of our relievers are coming at you with elbows and knees. You show, they look like a blender with the lid off of it. Come on, you know, maybe they can, you know, inside arm here and there and do whatever they want. But they don't have to do it short period of time. If I tried that, I would be on my way to see doc Andrews fix my elbow.

What would you say if we're, so let's roll play, we're, we're your managers. And you're in the hide your career and we say, hey, listen, rocket. We're going to try this new thing. We're going to have an opener for you. Yeah, I said, if unless he's opening a pop can form me, that's all he's over. Okay, all right, I figured that. Yeah, no, but hey, wait, wait.

Well, as co-man Andrew, let me just step and explain it to you. The analytics say that if he throws from one inning, it's going to be better. We're going to, they're going to score less runs. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, the course of 100, 100 games that we might go out there for the course of the summer. Yeah. And we appreciate everything you've done for the team, but you're more of a second through $7,000 to $9,000. You may respond.

Yeah. And I say, listen, Mr. Perpeller had in front of your computer. Yeah. When's the last time you had a punch out, you know, Reggie Jackson or Mike Trout or pool holes? Yeah.

So, yeah, though, I mean, I get it, I still think, you know, I'm not, and again, it doesn't have to do with money, but I'll say it.

I got a guy out there and I'm paying, I'm paying 22 million.

And in the sixth inning, I'm trying to get him through the lineup the third time. Yeah. I'm going out to have an eye on the hard test. Yeah. Now, if you tell me, I say, you got these next two dudes.

And if you tell me, I think so, you're out. I'm going to the pen. Right. I don't want to hear. I think so.

But if you're looking at him, I'm looking at, I know your heart. And I'm looking at you and I say, I got it, skip. Yeah. Let's go. Become a look at the spreadsheet.

Yeah. Are you smarter than the computer? Is that what you're saying? 100%. What's in terms of today's game?

Is there something that if you could fix or like how it goes? Maybe it's the opener. Maybe it's the fact that, like you said, there's guys that are getting pulled in the form. Yeah.

I love the changes. I was pitch down before pitch down. I called about 90. 95% of my pitches from the man with my looks. So that's why I tell you too.

I had some great catch. I love my catchers over the 24 years up because they had to pay attention to detail. You found a ball off. You're fixing your batting gloves.

Get in the sign from third base coach.

I'm putting my next pitch into play. And here we go instead of pressing, you know, a buttoner here. Yeah. And I warned not only the AAA guys going of the big leagues, but some of the big leagues who, when they adopted pitchcom, you know, you get on the mountain.

You hear a fastball away. And as you do as grab it and heave it. You're not, you don't have a purpose. You understand what I'm saying? I know how, I know what I'm going to throw you.

Your first two pitches. And by what you do or how you react. I know how I'm going to try and get you out. If I need a punch out, ground ball, whatever I might need. So there's, you know, there's a lot going on there with.

And you're going with what stuff that you have. I mean, my splits nasty. I might throw you, you know, I remember throwing George Brett in a big game. One nothing man on third, one out. And I threw him seven straight splits.

I think to get him out. And they were all accustomed me from the dug. And that was back in the day when they challenged somebody. Yeah. I don't, I don't need a challenge.

You're doing this job. Yeah. You're getting Mr. nasty. Yeah. That's, that's an awesome story.

So when you, when you call your own pitches,

“what, how many different signals would you have to go,”

like rotate through the over the course? So since I'm probably not, I don't know. I'm my coming back. I mean, you guys are making me feel good about it. Well, yeah.

Yeah. I didn't like you. You are paid. What you get paid for for innings, but I'm going to give you my pitches. So I'm done this in a while, but sometimes I catch the ball back.

And when I kind of just hitch my pants like I'm trying to hitch my pants up, that was split. Nobody knew it. Nobody knew it. That's crazy.

That's how I did. Now, we had a guy. I studied pitchers a lot. And I still do it with the guys. Now, they'll send me stuff.

They're, they're video of their bullpins. And I'll tell them about their shoulder tilt. And a few things that are hot. It's not, it's too complex. Some guys get too complex.

But we had a guy that I got that when he threw his change up, he was showing his teeth to his catching. We got him. And you don't tell him until unless a guy gets traded and you go over there. So hey, man. Yeah.

And then let you know. We had your pitches. And he's just, why don't you tell me. Goes well. I'm going to be facing you.

Yeah, right. Other guys.

“That's why I tell the young kids or college or mindily guys when I talk to him.”

When you throw your bullpins, practice perfect. Because when you get where the lights are the brightest and a little more pressure. No different. You guys prepare for what you guys do. You're very good at what you do.

The guy, this guy was going fastballing easy for him to get right at his nose. But to get his hook, it took him a little longer and he came up and covered his logo. We got you. It makes, it makes a, a two 50 hitter, a three 50 hitter in our game. Yeah.

And it just, it's your habits. That's why you see guys get flimsy gloves. They fan because the go get their split or their change up. The young, behind goes into more. So we're watching you.

And we're paying attention what you're doing. I had to start wearing short sleeves even when it was cold because I was throwing some nasty splitters early in my career to this team.

See if I'm tipping from fan of my glove or whatever and he goes, "No, they couldn't figure it out." So I started watching my film. And on fastball, I was here. I was here where I had the long sleeve or whatever fastball was here. And my split, I had to get it like this.

So you're seeing two more inches of skin. Yeah. And guys, I saw a nasty splitter about my zone where you'd be hacking like crazy and they were spitting on them. Yeah. So this was at my lips.

That was Kurt Ball, which I missed. That's true. That was kissing. Yeah. And I threw in a 120 pitch game.

I might throw eight hooks because my slider. I had a tight slider and what they call a sweeper now. It's not a sweeper. It's just a slur, it's a little bit tighter slider. Yeah.

And then my two fastballs.

But basically when I would get on the mound, nobody on or whatever.

And I'm looking straight down Broadway. If I look straight down Broadway, you know it's curve or split.

“Because that's what I'm aiming in the middle.”

So if he goes split, I mean, if he goes, you know, first split. And he knows I don't come. Then he knows it's hook. So he'll just do this. What also that helps doing is if you got you're in the stretch and you do that, you got to go out second.

And the hitter calls time out. Because my catcher did this. He didn't give a sign. So now we knew that something was going on. They were trying to relay signs.

So that's how somebody gets hurt. That's crazy. Yeah, no idea about that. Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff going on. Well, you're having your popcorn and peanuts and talking trash.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a game. Yeah, you're working hard. Yeah. One of the best things I think you ever did was that episode of Simpsons.

Loved home at the bat.

Did you know that that was--

You know what? When I do little signings, I sign more Simpsons than I do at my bubblegum car. Yeah. When they turned me into the chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was fun.

“I wanted to go out to LA to do that in the studio.”

And I didn't realize that Bart was a female. Her voice. Yeah. And so I got to meet her. And that was cool.

Yeah, they put me in a booth and I had to do about eight variations of. Right. Did you know when you were recording that was going to be-- It was going to be something you'd be asked about. No.

You know, it's like years. And no, it was good. It still wasn't as bad as the fairly brothers. You know, I was supposed to be in Dumb and Dumber. And the team wouldn't let me go.

I couldn't get away to go do it. There was only going to film a day like in Reno or wherever they were filming. Whatever. And my name in that was pretty cool. It was C-bass.

Yeah, that's it. And so I could do it. So I got Cam Nilly, Cam jumped in and he became C-bass. But the lines were written for Texas Twang. I'm going to kill him some bitch, you know, stuff like that.

Yeah. But so he had to do it. And so it was funny seeing a Canadian, you know. Right. Who's the dead man hit me?

It's a salt shaker. So the brother, Peter and Bobby, they're like, way, we're going to get you. We want you in one of our movie. You're going to, because you're going to do this. I go, all right, man.

So off season November, they said, all right. We're doing this to other one. And we're going to fly in to Reno. It's going to take a couple hours. But we're going to film from midnight to two in the morning.

You and Woody Harrelson, blah, blah. We're going to do all this. I go, I ain't going anywhere boys until you tell me what my nickname or whatever is. What's my name in the movie?

They go, well rock if you tell you when you ain't going to come. I go, is it that bad? And they go, what is it? They go, you're skid mark. So I was skid mark in the movie Kingpin.

If you're watching Kingpin, that's great. I'm this. I'm the shit kick and truck driver to come into the bar and Randy Quay's dance with my girl. I got tattoos and earrings. Yeah.

So that was, that was, you know, that's, I couldn't use that name as one of my aliases. Yeah. You know, like, did you see bass? I was that. I was wider for a couple of years.

Nobody could figure that out. I was like, Mr. walking through the lobby. And Mr. water. And then me and another teammate the best one I had. It worked for about four years for anybody picked up on it.

I was just in time and he was just in case. So we wrote, we wrote with that for a few years. Yeah.

“Do you, do you have any good George Steinburner stories?”

The boss? Like, we've lost those type of figures kind of in sport. Yeah. You know, I was lucky. I had him when he wasn't, you know, as gritty or you're firing people every day.

Yeah. Yeah. I got him. Everyone's 75, you know, but he did.

He came to Houston twice to get me in the second time he came and said, listen, I've been trying to get you for three years.

You don't be a damn young kid or don't you? So, but the funny story was, you know, he's in his turtle neck, white turtle neck, and blue blazer. And we're on the second level of my house. And I've got a little bit of weight room off. There's got some leg equipment, a hamstring with a hamstring machine.

And it's got a couple of machine, you know, exercising machines, you can get on. And I don't know where he sees my, he looks over and he sees my, my machine. And he goes, rock it, I'm just going to tell you. My age, I still work out, he takes, he's taking his jacket. I'm looking at my age and I'm like, what's going on?

And he takes his jacket and lays it off and goes over. And, you know, it's the hamstring where you got to lay down. Yeah. And I know there's seven or eight plates on there from the morning workout that we did. There's no way.

He's going to tear his hamstrings off the bone if he tries this. I don't know what his age was.

And he lays down and he grabbed those things. Now, the rest of the family and friends, they know he's in, he's at the house. So I've got a pretty good 13, 14 people down the kitchen area, right below where he's getting ready to lift these weights. And he gets that thing up and it's heavy. So he can't get it, but four or five inches up.

And he lets it go and it hits the. Bam.

And then third one after the one hit, I got the wife and everybody else at the door in the game room upstairs.

They think somebody fell down and had a heart attack. And they said one of the light fixtures had popped out of it. And he got up like nothing because yeah, I still love to work out. I'm like, this guy, he is.

“Now, when you signed, were you like, I got a complete ice cream right then?”

Yeah. Right then. Did you go back and forth over at it? Was, do you added $22 or so? Yeah, I think somebody put that in now.

Yeah, for. It was a good luck, man. It worked out. It didn't work out. I think I read somewhere.

Were you a rice bucket guy? I started. I was digging it rice for my ligaments and my elbows. A good little drill. You know, it's, that's a good little drill.

There's some other ones for the guys. I show them to, you know, hopefully I was lucky again from my elbow 24 years. I was. I was lucky, man. These guys, some of these guys put some torque on their boat.

Yeah. I was going to say, like, was it was it that type of workout or what was it just luck? That was. That was one of my warmups. I got another one that I do a super 7 drill with a bat or I got this hammer head that I do.

I still do them now. So at my age, I can still throw pretty good BP to the boys or guys that guys come over to the house and January to throw or hit. That was going to be my suggestion. It's like, we could make a call to a GM big cat or I could or you could say, like,

I'll throw my son home run Derby boss if you let him in the Derby. Well, I think my number three son Casey and then coach Cody with the Minnesota twins. They're big fans.

“They say, because when I told them I was coming to see you guys, they're like, dead.”

They're awesome. Do it. I got locked in. Man, I'm not the best I can. But, you know, Casey would be the one that.

He's trying to get me to do a fun little thing. And if it is, I'm going to get you guys in on it. Because I'm going to have a celebrity stand in. But his deal is, you know, he. These Shambo did that deal with the president breaking 50.

Yeah. We're going to do one if a 64 year old can break 90. So I'm going to start training. Well, I think I can hit 80 right now. I don't know if I can get the 90 and not run my show.

You're coming back. This is all just you coming back. Oh, yeah. But we're going to have. I got a couple guys that are.

I got a movie star friend that you guys will see and they're going to stand in. Why I'm trying to do this. You can Kevin Malard. Yeah. And if it gets away from a little bit, we got ice.

Because I'm. I was going to say, I don't. I do not want to do that. I was standing for you throwing as hard as you can. I like to opt out as well.

I do not want that smoke. I would tell you. Yeah. I do not want that smoke. I would tell you.

Yeah.

It ain't always thanks for a minute.

What? So when you came back with the Yankees and you did the whole. You know, Roger isn't your George's box. Yeah. Well, how did that come together?

I mean, it's all times Susan Walgreens. Yeah. I see Susan. I try. Yeah.

Yeah. So. So yeah. So 45 years old. This is 2007.

I'm in my garage messing around. I watched the Yankees.

“I think they just got swept and Cleveland or something.”

And Deb comes out in the garage and says. Uh, Joe Tory and Kashmir on the phone went to talk to you. And I was like, what? She goes, and that's them. I know.

I, you know, I just got done visiting with them. So I get on there and skips, uh, you know, Joe's the best. He's like, rocket. How are you doing?

We're chatting up chatting up and about 30 seconds in. Cash drives ever goes. How long will it take you get ready? And I go, what? He goes, I need you in my fourth or fifth.

But I need you in the locker room, too. Get everybody on the same page. And go, cash. I'm 45 now run. I walk jog three times a week at Memorial Park.

This park by the house at home and Houston. And I said, man, I, you know, I'm not going to go out there and embarrass myself. Cash, you goes, we're going to send a plane for you. Go to Tampa. I said, you're not doing anything.

Give me two weeks. And I'll get after it. It's hard for two weeks. And I'll let you know. So I got after it.

I got my legs and legs felt pretty good. I almost feeling good. Split. We'll start in the work. I was throwing some pins behind the scenes.

Nobody's on. And I call a cash. He goes, all right. We're sending a plane for you. You've got to go to Tampa for another two weeks.

He goes, but we're going to send you to the stadium first.

It's surprised because nobody knows this. And even my closest friends on the team. I go, no, I'm not doing a dog and pony show. You sent, we're going straight to Tampa. And you guys want me to work with a couple of pictures there.

I'll put the headset on. We'll start getting three miles in and that heat around the Tampa football stadium. We'll get after it. He goes, nope. You got to come to Yankees Stadium first.

I was like, good Lord. And I had no idea what I was going to say. But yeah, they marched me out in Georgia's box. And I'm like, OK, they can when I got marched out. Susan and I, I didn't see it till later.

Susan went, oh my god. Oh, oh, that's the address. I go. Yeah, I say they came and got me out of Texas. And I'll be talking to y'all soon or something.

I said something like that.

Yeah. And the car was still running in the players parking. I got in the car playing. I was in Tampa working out later that day. And we got to the playoffs.

It was good. Yeah. It was good deal. Yeah. It's some really interesting there.

And it's something I never thought about.

Given your career that they needed you in the locker in the clubhouse to straighten everything out. I can see that just by talking to you like you are, you would probably be a great teammate to have. That would also kind of like demand accountability out of everybody.

“What was it about like, how would you go into a situation like that?”

And if things looked like they were a little too lax or disarray. Like how would you be the first I would turn that away? Yeah. We police teach each other really well. And you know, and guys took it didn't take it personal.

But, you know, when I went out to the Yankees, they found out real quick. And DJ and I, who I was battling against all the time. Derek, you know, you're cut from the same cloth as they say. You know, you want to win. I mean, coming out of Texas and then getting to the world series, you know, losing against the mats.

You're talking about an emotional world series in 86. We're down to one strike against California Angels going home. Get a couple of big homers next to you know, we're in the world series. And when one strike away from one in the world series there. So it's super motion.

But I always said, you know, you know, where I came from my background, you got to know the guys background. I was telling some guys out here. My pops past the way I was nine. And so I was raised by my mother, my grandma, the two strongwood ladies.

My mom worked three jobs in Houston. So I could have a badass pair of cleats and gloves.

So when I hear people say, oh, you million dollars.

Are you silver spoon to athletes? I said, hold up a damn minute. Pissed me off. Because my mom sat in high school with her hands in her head. With her electricity getting turned off three times.

So I mean, it gets real, you know what I'm saying? So when I took advantage of my first two years of pro ball, I wanted to make some money. Because I wanted to buy, you know, pay her town home off and get her a new car. And then after that, it was back to winning championships again. And that's all you focus on.

And but I was lucky. Again, my career that I had was wonderful. Being in the locker room with the Yankees. I played with two of the most historic teams. And ball parks, I mean, family park and old Yankees stadium.

Old Yankees stadium. We had ghosts running around that place, man. The comeback wins. We had new Yankees stadiums. Cool.

It's like going to a mall. There's a freaking baseball field there. But it's not. It's not only to sell it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And old Yankees. Yeah.

No, that that is true. What happened with the Piazza bat? Did you just black out? No. If you watched the replay, I had impeccable fielding form.

Man, the bat broke.

“I mean, what's the luck of the bat taking two bounces?”

And it came perfectly to my lap. Right. You're talking about PFP. I mean, it was like fielding practice. And then I took the head and no idea it was running.

The guy said, oh, you threw it. I go, guys, he was 15 feet. If I went to hit him, I thrown it through him. And I said, I just winged it. Crap on the on deck.

Sirk on a heave was jog. And he said, you know, broke the bat in four pieces. And the reason I said it was the ball. Because immediately, I thought it was a line drive at me. That's why I broke now.

But it was the head. The bat broke in four pieces. Shattered that crap in four pieces. But Mike was like the same thing as Reggie. I mean, I think I was sitting in about 94.

And he got in the box. And I was whistle in 98 on his thumbs. And that's what we had to do. This is like when they asked me in spring training. I was down for the Yankees.

How I'd pitch judge. And I said, are you kidding me? I said, I was in the movie Ty Cobb. I got to play Chrissy Massen. And one of the famous lines in there with Tommy Lee Jones play Ty Cobb.

He said, he had one point. He said, my sister Florence could hit the ball to right field in Yankees stadium. And so why would you pitch judge over there or pay out a pay out to the way? And we had that we were almost to get fine.

But he said, we're going to pitch him in. We're going to pitch him further in. And we're going to pitch him in. I said, I got no problem with that. Yeah.

Because that's. He's hit every. I think he hit every break in ball that I threw to him. That's how good a hitter he was. Yeah.

Yeah. I liked it. But they're like. And then then all you think I said, it was good TV.

“That's why I went to the Empire say give me another damn ball.”

So we get this at bat that everybody wants to see over with. Yeah. Because it was getting bigger than the world series itself. Yeah. You said I thought it was the ball.

Yeah. And I think deep down. Tell me from way off. You were a little bit upset that he had the audacity to break his bat. And almost hit you with his bat.

And you had to send it back to him. Yeah. No. No. I just I filled it up perfectly.

I didn't want that crap out there, but. Yeah. No. It was.

When I first like I tell people then understand when when I let go of the ball,

I'm 53 feet away from the hitter. And when it bat shattered. Yeah. And first I thought I was getting a line drive. Of course, once the bat hit the ground bass, I knew it was the bat and I jumped it.

But they're like, oh, he's all his ball. Yeah. And what about that game? The legendary game against the red socks. Just everyone.

I know that you threw inside was it. Who was it against? Was that against? That might be against Melar, right? Throw him a little bit.

You're talking about the Pedro game, don't you? Yeah. That was that was manny. And it was not inside at all. It was actually if you look at the replay.

It's a strike in the game today.

You'd be doing this. Yeah. You would be my catcher. You'd be challenging that for me. You would.

You went high and tied against Melar a couple times, though. Gave him some 10 years. Yeah. I may have. Yeah.

I don't. I pitched 20. Oh, like I said. Who knows? What are your games that you had to clean up?

That's the ugly part of it. And I hated doing it. Because sometimes it fell to the picture that was pitching before me. And they didn't clean it up. But I know that that's my that's half of my family in there.

And in respect. I mean, when I get a guy that comes sitting next to me on a bench with they really don't do when I'm pitching.

I'm finally I know he's sitting there for a reason to want to say something.

So what's up? You got a problem with this guy. He goes, yeah, I got a problem with this guy. He's got me three times. That's all.

Oh, handle it. You're going to get. You got the magic bullet, which in that game I did. And yes, man, he was going to eat one. Yeah.

“You know, but and that's why he and he pretty sure he knew he's going to eat one.”

That's why he went out. You're going to cry through it like a 95 mile in our fastball. Just up high. Right. One nearing and he went ballistic.

Yeah. And then we saw, then we saw, you know, zoom. Yeah. You know, he's a baseball. That's my guy.

I mean, I had zoom in Boston and with the Yankees. I love him. Miss him. I don't think he. I don't think he's another guy.

Didn't cast a check outside the game of baseball. Yeah. And but he got pissed off and ran out there and Pedro gave him the overlay. And I'm like, what is going on? That's what I loved about those games.

So it's because I could sense that. And if every fan could sense like you guys didn't like each other. And that's what we like about. Well, both teams are competitive. You got to understand when I was with the, with the Red Sox and the mid 80s.

Late 80s. The Yankees really weren't a rival force. They kind of, I mean, that Donnie ball game and they weren't. They weren't the team was the blue jays. Yeah.

Late 80s. And of course, they won World Series in 90s.

“And then when I went to New York when I got traded to New York,”

and Red Sox changed ownership, it got competitive again. You know, it was great because playing for one trophy then. You know, I'm saying money doesn't even matter. You're playing for the trophy. Now, one is crazy is the 70s.

75 guys sliding in the second trying to blow your knee out.

Mm-hmm. Or who was it? Nettles or somebody fistillied into the third or hobson. And they pops up and it's a hockey match. But I laugh at that too.

You know, you watch the sports highlights. And it's hockey time. And they're shown three fights just good just beating the crap out of it. And then they go to one of us. And then they go to one of us.

And we have a little push half bronze. Oh, yeah. The whole bullpen comes out just to check out it. Just to check out it. Just to check out it.

Yeah. What's your number? I don't have your cell number. Mm-hmm. And meanwhile, at 30 seconds or they're showing hockey and guys just wearing it.

Yeah. All right. Where are we at with the whole thing? All news. Yeah.

Yeah. After a year one, we could pay an attention. Because you have no control over it. Yeah. You know, that's my been the, you know, the most of it.

Like I didn't play to make the whole fame. I played to change the dynamics of my family's life and win championships. I think it's a selfish thing anyway because most of my teammates that made me who I am.

And all these awards I won, they'll never have the opportunity to get in there.

So. But yeah. Do you think it's a little like it's we're now getting to a point. And there's obviously, you know, the late 90s, early 2000s baseball, you know, things happen. And it's like, we got to a point where we've just kind of erased some of the most historic guys.

From the game when it comes to the Hall of Fame and you and Barry bonds and like some of these guys like, How are we telling this the history of this? Yeah. So they're totally. They're totally separate.

They're totally separate. They haven't erased me from anything. I mean, they still have some of my stuff and in Cooperstown, when somebody like my late great Toby Keith, you know, goes up there at this band. He always gets my stuff and he goes rock, you know, this stuff's here.

And that stuff's on loan as far as I'm concerned because I want my boys to have it one day. And it's on loan for the fans to go see. But again, the the hall is not going to change me one way or the other as a person, as a player, how I went about my work. And bottom line is I proved my case, not once but twice.

We beat their ass and we finally got in the setting where only facts matter. So I can't worry about what writers like you don't like your, you know, being a beauty contest or something like that. So I had some what some guy didn't vote for Derek Geter. I know it is crazy. Some of the writers.

“So either and I don't think you have to wait 10 years.”

I think you're either you're either hall of fame or you're not. It should be it should be peers. It should be guys in the hall of fame vote for more guys in the hall of fame. Because they know what it takes to be a hall of fame or not the writers. Yeah.

That's really what it should be. Yeah. All that's out. I'll say it's bullshit. Yeah.

It's bullshit that you're not in it. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah. I got that. You know, I, you know, got a lot of people to think.

You know, which I do all the time when I, whether I do it through my foundation or I do it when I speak. I'm going to do like, you know, I was fortunate when the thermon months in the ward and a couple of the really cool awards. I'm going to go out and give that out.

I'm going to do something else. I think it's really cool. I, I hold dear to my heart. You guys are going to see it this summer. It's going to happen in a couple months.

What I'm going to do. So I have to you guys have pay attention. That's going to be really cool. It's going to be really cool. It's going to be really cool.

It's going to be really cool. Yeah. What I'm going to do. So I've been wanting to do it for a long time. I'm actually doing an appearance in the Northeast where this is going to take place.

Well, we got one last question. Zach, come on up here. There's been awesome. Thank you so much, Rocket. You're always welcome.

Yeah. Have you on back. Talk some more bit, Ball.

“The funniest part of Rocket coming into this room.”

Zach was standing kind of in front of him and Roger went up to Zach to shake his hand. It's like Santa. And Zach was was so nervous. He was the way he turned around and ran away. Perfect.

I thought it was in the way. He was trying to be cool. He did. I'll say Zach, him. Roger Cummins walking in and saying, hey, I'm rocket.

It's an intimidating thing. He feels like he's thrown, you know, 99 at your head. I can agree. Yeah. You back and off the play the law.

All right.

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Cusives, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback dot com, promo code take. Goes us. Go. I do have a quick question for you. 24 years in the MLB.

Quite the career. Lot of accolades. Lot of contribution to the game. I was curious if there was like outside of like the world series and. And the awards.

Is there like a, is there a small moment that may have left a big impact on you as a player? Through career. Yeah. Great question. I mean, you know, it has to do with my mom and my grandmother and my family.

“You know, and then having my four boys and showing the best way.”

I love it that my, my boys all, you know, all played professionally. But the younger two graduated from a com's business school. My mom was a stickler on education too. And so I think getting drafted, you know, realize you're going to get in high school. And I tell the kids, it's a story.

But it was me. So that's when I see these young kids out here. I was one of them.

And, you know, I was the third best picture on my high school team.

I through strikes. I had little bugs money curve and through about 85 miles an hour. But the two 19 year old veterans through hard. And we get in the playoffs. They wet the bed and coached me into those strikes.

And I was probably better first baseman. First baseman than I was pitcher and better defensive end. And, but then all of a sudden, and I knew the only way I was going to further my education or go to a major school like the University of Texas was by scholarship. And so because we, you know, we didn't, you know, my mother, you know, she wanted me to keep going.

But we didn't have the money. So all of a sudden, I go to San Jacinto. And there there was a football lifting program and they didn't have a baseball program to do that. I matured. My bodyguard, I graduated.

I took classes, graduated early at 17. So when I went to the Juco, did really well there. And then I ended up at Texas. We lived with the football players there too. I got strong.

Fastball star jumping. And then he's got some like, wow, I got a chance to get drafted. So it's pretty cool going almost. So that's kind of how everything set itself up for my path to continue for. Now, I had bumps along the way.

I mean, ever's times where I didn't think I was going to, you know, make it through, you know, major league baseball a few times too. But, you know, just a persevere. And like I said, I go through three, when I talk to the guys. I go through three long answer here.

I go through three progressions. Physically, you're in charge of how you feel on your body and the core work. I mean, in between starts. I'm doing close to 600 abs work just because that's where I get that in long toss. That's where you continue to be able to have your fastball.

The second part, the middle part of the game. Like the guys, no, mentally I'm going to freaking crush you. I'm locked in. I'm trying to, you know, got my blinders on. I mean, I'm so detailed.

I got the guy that mows the grass that are groundskeeper. Mounds about 17 inches wide. He mows the grass right down Broadway as last trip. So I got this like being in a bowling alley. So now I got my gears and I can, you know,

I know where I'm going if I'm missing. So there's all kinds of detailed stuff going on. I could be here in another hour with you guys telling you some of the crazy stuff. Last hour emotions. I think about my mother being six.

She passed away in 05 at the World Series. I had to pitch that night. What is the hardest game that I had to pitch? They wanted to send an airport. My mom was in Austin.

I was in Houston. They wanted to send an airplane for me. I said, no, I need two hours to drive to clear my mind. If I'm going to pitch, my mom would want me to pitch. And so my sisters were there when she took her last breath.

“So I think about things like that when I'm lethargic on the mound.”

I'll think about my grandmother passing her being, I'll try and just pull stuff in her. Or I'll try and punch a guy out early in the game and get the crowd into it. And then that elevates my game a little bit. So there's nothing worse than going out. It's like, you know, with the red socks driving in from my house and framing ham, seeing all

the different license plates from the different states coming to watch you pitch because they counted every fifth day. And then I go out there and lay an egg, get knocked out of the game and the third inning or something. There's not a worse feeling.

I'm just telling you. But so those are the, when you ask me that questions, a lot of emotions come, you know, pass through my mind that the reason why I'm here able to talk to you guys on your show. All right, sounded like in high school, you had an opener. Where you described it, you're like, the guy would come in and I would come in.

Yeah. Yeah.

So if they looked a little nervous, I, I never really got nervous.

You had an opener. But I didn't, you know, had. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever thought about how, how great your crew would have it.

You would have been the best set up man of all time. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. I played with one that was pretty good.

If I had Mariana Reremo, I'd have 500, 400 wins.

Yeah.

“I think maybe, maybe one of the best, maybe the best power pitch of all time.”

Yeah. I appreciate it. Would you keep yourself to be the best? I let other people do that. Talking, you know, I think when you guys see me like behind the scenes like now.

I mean, you see me on the mound behind the glove. That's one thing. But another thing I do is you guys do. I'm going to actually be singing over here tonight. Yeah.

And I'll be kicking it off with, like I just said, one of my friends he stayed with me. Why he was battling at DMC word Toby Keith. And when I missed him, yesterday was Toby's birthday. So I kick it off with Toby's song. But I DJ at night too.

I do some DJing stuff. I love that. So I have to get you guys in the music. Yeah. Yeah.

I got 1600 songs. And it's better than karaoke. Yeah. It's a program where I can faintly put. Bono or Madonna.

Madonna, you know, whoever it is. Adele. And once the girls see that they're scared to come to the mic. Once they realize I can pull your voice out. Yeah.

And the background. You sing over top of her. Yep. It's game on. Yeah.

There you go. It's game on. Yeah. Well, rocket. Thank you so much, man.

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Grab a Dew, taste and grate since 48. And now here's Shane Bacon. Okay, we now welcome on a very very special guest. It is our good friend. Shane Bacon.

We're talking the open championship. You can see Shane updates all week in the CBS studio. He also has some interviews coming out with Windham Clark and Charles Barkley too. We're current guests of this show. Shane, it is time for the fourth major.

Not as a, you know, like, hey, it's the fourth major. But it actually is the fourth major in the calendar year. So tell us everything.

“I honestly, this is my least favorite major just because of the time zones.”

But the open championship, royal birthday. What the hell is going on with royal birthday? Give us the whole course, you know, download. Big cat. This can be your quickest flip ever.

It's going to go from your least favorite major to your favorite major because of one thing and one thing only. I follow you on all your social accounts as, you know, friends do. Yeah. I'm assuming all your other friends do it as well. I know you're a big donut guy.

Okay. Kiddos. Yeah. Borkdale, the host this week has a donut bunker on the seven pole. That's what they call it.

There's that. All right. I think I sent it to Max that he can show you as well at some point. But there is, in fact, a bunker they call the donut bunker. It's got like a little grass.

Yeah. The whole. The whole area like the donut hole. Yeah. So I'm again, now you're an open guy.

Now you're a breakdown guy. I would try to hit it there. And I would miss. But that would probably mean I made a good shot because I had missed the bunker. Okay.

So I'm a breakdown guy.

“How, what is the, this course in terms of links golf?”

Is it, you know, towards a more difficult? Like what, what is this course layout going to be like? Yeah. So 11th time. Borkdills host in the open for the 11th time.

It's kind of got like hitters only that of one here. Got him Peter Thompson, who won five opens.

One is first and is last.

It broke Del Arnold Palmer ever heard of him. He won here. Trevino one, Johnny Miller Tom Watson. Ian Baker Finch. I know you guys have heard of the broadcast for a long time.

He won here. Marco Mira and 98. One here when he was like paling up a tiger. Yeah. That's a good one.

Two majors that year, Podger Carrington and Jordan Speed. So that's the list of winners here. A lot of big names obviously. It's an interesting links golf course. Like, there's, there's not as much wind factor.

There's not as much on Delation in the fairways. It's a pretty flat golf course. All things considered for a link style golf course right now.

Very firm.

But they've got these massive dunes.

You know, you remember Jordan Speed back in 2017. When he hit it like literally 100 yards right on the 13th hole. Yes. Eddie had to get the drop by the driving range trucks and all that stuff. He hit it on one of those dunes.

These dunes are huge. And if you hit it out of play or out of position, you could find yourself in a really sketchy position. But if you find the fairways. This is a little bit more accuracy and hit it straight.

That it is overpower the golf course. And the greens in terms of a link golf course. Or about the flat as you will ever see in terms of a major championship. It's like, you get on these greens. You feel like you could make kind of any pot of any distance.

So it's scoring. We're going to score this weekend. Yeah, not a lot of wind in the forecast golf course. The balls are going to run forever.

“Like, I think you're going to see some pretty low scoring.”

Okay. So in looking at this course, It's got the donut bunker. I see that. What is there like one particular hole that this is.

It's got like a burn or like the lead. What's the history behind this course that we should know? Yeah, I mean, one of the kind of really cool things about this golf course. I guess if you're watching is the parfives come late. You don't get a parfive till the 14th and then you get 14 and 17.

So, you know, you think about going out and playing golf and your, you know, us three are collectively five or six over through a couple of holes. You're kind of looking on the scorecard for a parfive. Yeah, not the case at Burkdale. It is like your favorite players favorite link scores.

I mean, guys have talked so much about this. We'll recall that one of the best ever. The players this week, you'll hear glowingly talk about it. Like high reviews on the golf course. Because again, it's penal.

It's got a boatload of bunkers. I think there's 100 Nate bunkers on the golf course. None or deep of the greens. They're all kind of in that front portion surrounding like the entryways. If you will to the greens, not a lot over these greens.

But if you place the ball on the right spot, you can get around this place. So again, you know, you think back to 2017. Britain, Grace, shoot 62 there.

I believe that was the first 62 we ever seen in a major championship.

It is a place where you could rip it up. If you hit, let's say 11, 12 fairways over the course of a day. And the winds are expected to stay like the forecast says like 10, 11, 12 miles per hour, the first three rounds. I want to get in some names that you think have a chance this weekend.

But before we do that, there's one name that will not have a chance this weekend. If you believe we missed this story, maybe you can tell us more about what happened. Sergio Sergio Garcia will not be playing in the open championship. He missed qualifying. And he missed because he ate lasagna.

Is that what happened? Yeah, you had to had a mid-round lasagna. I mean, if we were going to do Mount Rushmore of foods not to eat in the middle of a 36-hole day. Yeah. In the middle of a summer, feel like lasagna is high.

Max is picking that second or third, you know. That's a good about Rushmore. We might have to do that. Yeah, that's terrible decision making on Sergio as part.

Like a full plate of lasagna after the first 18 holes before the second 18 holes.

“And he did you have to poop or what? He just got sick.”

Yeah, just didn't sit well, didn't play well. I like let me ask you guys a question because you guys talk a lot about food. I'll start with big cat here in terms of eating. When it's really hot, is there food off the table for you? Like, is there something if it's 105 or your in Phoenix in the middle of the summer that you're like,

I don't really feel like I'm an eat that or you kind of game for all foods all temps? No, I mean, that would be a question for like a European who doesn't have air conditioning because I'll eat any food like you give me a chicken pop pie at the middle of July. Guess what? I'm eating it because in my house it's 62 degrees. So I'm eating the chicken pop pie we do.

Yeah, I mean the chicken pop pie with a hoodie on. Uh, no, but I do either or definitely some comfort foods like I'm a big believer. I love chili, love love love chili. I'm a big believer that I don't do chili in the middle of the summer. There's like a specific time where chili season begins and I try to respect that.

So yeah, I think there's definitely some summer foods that you wouldn't touch. Lasagna is on the top of the list. I think Lasagna would be up there on the other side. If it's winter time, I actually enjoy like a nice iced coffee in the winter time. I like lean into this season. I don't know if you're interested in it.

And the summer I'll try to steer away from if it's like hot coffee, hot chocolate, or most soups you can go with a gaspacho served chilled if you want. But yeah, super overall. It, you know, it wanes a little bit in the summertime.

“I do think by the way, Max, what did we have as our wedding?”

What was our food? Can it as Max there? Yeah, I'm here. Uh, we did buffet. What was it? What were we serving? We did buffet style. There was a couple salads and then we got to the meat.

There was Mahima, he chicken in ribs, flank steak. It was a good spread. Hank in a test. Great, Mahima. Did you eat any of this salad, Max? I did it tomato mozzarella salad.

Oh, nice. So no. Yeah, that's not that easy to made up. Wait, wait, wait, back up. He deconstructed pizza.

I got a quick, I got a quick, wait.

He just didn't qualify. Is that what happened? Right. Right. I got maybe he was like he's good.

He was so bad. I'm not playing in six days. No, it's not like COVID was on. Yeah. He's rear, rear pasted. Yeah.

We have passed that. So he just had a bad round and did just blamed the food. Bad preparation. I believe it. And I'd have to double check on this.

“I believe he played well in the morning.”

Yeah. And then had the lasagna. So it was actually like, you know, you went out there and kind of did your job in the morning and then leaned into the lasagna.

Right. Um, for your, for your lunchtime, which is again, it's so weird. These golfers, I feel like are obsessed with, with eating these days in terms of like,

clean eating and you get, you know, we, I cover the corn fairy tour. Like all those KFT guys are obsessed with their diet. And the fact that a guy that's been out on tour for what 25 years, three years.

It's just palminal lasagna mid round. Yeah. Yeah. Almost self sabotage. Like when I first saw it, I was like,

oh, well, there's Sergio making more excuses. But then I read more about what the excuse was. I was like, okay, that actually sounds valid. There's no chance that you could put together a good round after a full full lunch of lasagna.

I got a question for you, Shane. Stupid question.

But I've, I've never played over in Europe.

I've never played Link's golf. What makes it more difficult? What makes it? What is it? Like a defining quality?

Are you hitting different shots or shots going different distances? Like give me the, uh, Link's golf 101. Yeah. Well, one thing a lot of people don't tell you about

the turn they force lasagna down your head. So it's like, you know, they don't do that in America. But then, you know, in Europe, they're really heavy on that. I mean, it's, like, it's a lot of unpredictable golf. I mean, it is, you know, like, I was thinking about

major championships. And you know, I was thinking about the four majors in men's golf. And like what they are, right? The masters and not to bring a max again. But the masters is kind of a wedding.

If you're an adult, right? It's beautiful. It's planned out. Everybody looks pretty. I'm sure Max looks hot.

I'm sure Hank can attest look great. It is wedding. US open is kind of like, like, childbirth, right?

I mean, you have your first kid.

There's a lot of stress. It can be taxing, exhausting, not necessarily for us. But you're kind of happy. It's over. You just kind of want to get through it.

And there are times where you do it once you go. I don't necessarily want to do it again.

“I think the, the PGA is is like that fifth wedding and a busy wedding”

season where you don't necessarily want to go. But when you go, you might have fun. You might have a lot of fun. Maybe you meet somebody. You stay in extra day like it can be fun.

I just don't think you're necessarily that excited. The open's like the anniversary honeymoon of all this stuff. Like you're going to an exotic land. You're playing a different style of golf. You've got to hit different styles shots.

Keep it on the ground. You know, Todd Hamilton famously won an open championship. And was hitting his hybrid as like the bump and run club. You know, the entire week. I mean, beat our nails and a playoff doing it.

You can hit different shots. But I think the idea of throwing out your quote unquote stock number is a big thing that the modern pro battles with because when they play American style golf, your wedge goes 151 right or 146. And when you get to Scotland,

yeah, I might fly a certain number. But it might bound forward 30 feet. You know, the wind might be haling. You know, drives might go 430 yards. If it's as firm as it's expected to be this week.

There's just a lot of unpredictability. And then with the pot bunkers and the bunkering and these golf courses, the more the ball rolls, the more opportunity there is for it to go into a bunker. And the difference in American golf and in linked style golf,

is bunkers are true penalties. The sand's a little thicker harder to spin out of.

“And also you get lifts where you have to hit it backwards.”

Like Johnson Wagner, who we do the CBS show, was talking about playing it in your field and open one time, having to hit putter out of a bunker twice. Like he hit it once. And it went a little far.

He had hit it again. And then he could hit a wedge out. So just some of that stuff. I think it's just more unpredictable. Guys are kind of kept on their toes a little bit more.

That's fun. I like it. Yeah.

It does seem, it's always fun to watch because it looks

noticeably different from any style golf that we have in America. And I was looking at the Scottish open. I watched some of that this weekend. And I think we've asked you this before. Is there a curse?

You don't want to win the Scottish open because then you don't win the open championship the next week. No. And well, the schedules changed over times. Like it's not always back to back.

Like it hasn't always historically been like the exact tournament right after it. But no. I don't think guys like the part three contest. I don't think there's a big fear of I don't want to play.

Well, here. I mean, got her up last year when the Scottish open. Yeah. Nearly won the open championship the next week. So I mean, again, I think in the modern game.

You're just trying to take home any trophy. Can and the fact that the Scottish is elevated. I think helps that. So can we look at what happened this week. Uh, at the it's the Genesis Scottish open.

So Tom Kim won, right? And then mid run Lee came second Robert McIntyre Bobby McIntyre. Bobby McIntyre. Can we look at the results for that? And did we learn anything about what might happen this upcoming week?

Yeah. I mean, I've kind of got my five storylines for the week.

I think there's some of that in here. Um, so it's been a bit of a strange men's major year.

“Is my first thing and the question is will that continue?”

You think about. You think about Rory winner to Augusta, I think the story, you know, a little bit more muted after obviously what happened last year. He didn't play excellent golf that week as well. Obviously you're in a rye. Um, a bit out of nowhere.

Winds that are on the making kind of runs with late. When I'm Clark, much of the same at the US open. I just feel like the winners have been a bit random and also. It hasn't been necessarily the most exciting golf at the end on a Sunday. You know, when most people are tuned in.

I was going through the 2000s major championship seasons.

I was thinking about what was the weakest because we've been on this incredible run as of late.

Oh, three. Wasn't great. We're a furick. Sean McKeale. Been Curtis.

Oh, nine was on El Cabrera. Glover. Y. Yang Stewart's sink. And then you got 2016 was Willett.

Dustin Johnson, Jimmy Walker and Henrik Stinson. I mean, there have been season. There are going to be major seasons that are not the most exciting. That can obviously change. If you get some Scotty, Bryson, John Romdool.

This week at the open championship. But the question is will it be just for random strange events? Or will we have something that makes a little bit more sense? And kind of keeps the tradition going at Birkdale with with the awesomeness of their past champions. Also, something that I didn't realize is.

And this is my next thing. Can the run of first time open winners continue? We're on the run of 12 straight winners. Bit of won the open their first time in and only time to this point. Going back to fill in 2013.

So you think about like a Tommy Fleetwood, a John Rom, a map fits Patrick. All those guys kind of fit that mold in terms of somebody that haven't won an open, but could continue the run that we've been on where the open winner has not won an open before.

“Did you guys know that Bryson is on the Miss Cut Slam?”

Did you guys, did you guys, did you guys aware of this? He stinks at golf. All right. Did you say that punty hit the other day? Oh, on live.

Yeah, no, no. All right. No, I think it was live. It might have been live.

It was never set up as identical.

It was maybe coat was it co-sanctioned. How did you guys talk about that? Yeah, we got it. It was an interesting video. Yeah.

I think we all were. What was it? I don't think anybody knows it straight. He was excited. Yeah, he seemed to be having a fun time out there.

But what's up with him? Like what's going on? Is he just cooked? Is he just cooked? Is he a YouTube golfer now?

I don't think he's cooked. I just don't think he's playing like the high level of golf that we saw a couple of years ago in the majors. I mean, the iron plate continues big hat to be an issue for this guy. And yet he won't make any change.

I mean, I've talked a lot about this this year. He uses these single length iron. You guys know that right? Yeah. They're all the same link.

And when pro golfers try out stuff and it works.

People follow and do the same thing. I mean, if you're using a putter that works, people are going to go pick up that putter. Like when them Clark right now is using that pink putter right that apparently the torch truck got flooded by guys coming in,

asking for a level of model of that to go try out. If there's a seven wood or a nine wood, something like that that works, pros use it. Nobody's using single length iron.

Except for I don't know 15 years. I just think he's got to get away from that. And at least try something different with the iron. Because the iron plate of your point big cat is just not good enough right now to win major championships.

I mean, now he's not winning. I mean, he's not even making it to Saturday. Yeah.

“How many strokes would Marty fish have to give Bryson right now?”

Yeah. I mean, that sounds like you just created his next YouTube video. I mean, I would say it's, it's, say it's still like Bryson there. Marty can play Marty can play Marty win. Yeah, you want to talk about it.

I think it's like eight, eight points. I think it, we're close to a dinosaur here. That's three and six years. Yeah. I'm telling you, these guys with the hip,

all the athletes with the quick hips. It's like kickers, quarterbacks, tennis players, hockey. These guys aren't all such freaking good golfers. It's so annoying.

Okay. I read it four. I think so. Yeah. Is that some right?

Yeah. No, Bryson. Bryson's going it for the slam for Miss cuts, for the miss cuts slam. Which we will. If he misses the cut, if he misses the cut at the opening,

he has he's missed all four this year. And I want Bryson to know this right now because I know he listens to every episode. If that does in fact happen, we will create a better form and raise it in our office. Love a parade Bryson.

Yeah. We will. Has he been on the podcast? No. No.

I would. What do he be on? What do we on this window? I think the window when he had still had a PR person. He could have maybe done it.

Now that he no longer has a PR person and went back to being just so hateable. Yeah. I think he struggled on the podcast. Yeah. He was when his window was two and a half years ago.

Yeah. Exactly. It's like a perfect window. Yeah. It was like right after he won it.

Yeah. This is now. I'll say this the year. The comeback. In professional golf.

Anthony Kim Gary Woodwin. Even in terms of golf like Wynnum Clark. Pablo and Tom Kim. More a cow at a start the year.

At this open championship.

You go back to the first open.

He played in 1998. He was an amateur. Hold out on the last. Had this great finish. Everybody was excited about Justin Rose.

He's been close. Obviously the master's the last couple years. Didn't play great at Birkdown 2017. But it's played well at the open looking first first open championship.

“I think he kind of fits the the year of the comeback storyline.”

If you will in professional golf. And my last one since I think this is five maybe six who knows. I can't count is which guy saves his season. There are a lot of dudes this year that we talk about in golf a lot. That haven't even won.

I mean, you think about Zander. You think about Ludwig Fleetwood. Justin Thomas.

I mean, there are so many big names that haven't won a single event this season.

And I feel like the FedEx Cup playoffs. Obviously offer players an opportunity to have something good happen at the end of the year. But this is your last, you know, real crack. It like a monumental victory. And so to be interested to see if one of those guys that have won anything.

Find the get a win this year. Can we throw Scotty in there? Because I know he's won this year. But like it does feel like a lost year in Scotty's. You know, this would be his prime right now.

And if he goes over in the majors and offer and kind of like some of these big events. Like it would be, it would feel like it was a disappointing year. Again, this is all context because he, He, there's probably what 130 guys it would trade years for what Scotty's done this year.

“Hey, I think a big week, you know, for Scotty in John wrong.”

I mean, I think about two dudes that I'm really paying attention to this week at Berkdale. Scotty to your point, Big Cat. I mean, he only runs through the majors last year. Wins two we had in one before. Everybody's looking at Chinacock this year.

Got to complete the career grand slam. It just, the floor has lowered for Scotty. His floor was so high for so long that even when he played mediocre golf, He'd hang around. I mean, I think about the PGA championship last year.

Even on Sunday, he played pretty poor on that front nine. Makes the turn and just goes absolutely, you know, fire emoji on everybody and takes home that thing. Even over John wrong. This year, the floor has been lower. The iron play at times.

The parts, the driver has been as good this year. The putting he missed couple really shorties at the Scottish open on the way to that miss cut. I just feel like to your point that the Scotty thing is important because if he doesn't win this, you have that full year of nothing really going. And you might be able to save it with, I don't know, a FedEx cup tile or something like that.

But it's not going to do much for the fans of Scotty Sheffler. After this year and then for John wrong, if you didn't win this open championship, it is 14 majors since his last win.

“I think, to me, this is the biggest week for John wrong over everybody else.”

Okay, that actually, you saying John wrong made me think about a possibility that could happen on Sunday. I believe Sunday is the world cup final. It could be theoretically Spain against English is pretty good. And you could have John wrong, maybe doing it out with Tommy Fleetwood. That would be some Justin Rose.

I don't think an Englishman is won the open since 92, so I mean, you talk about like a lot of history there as well, which is, which is an interesting little nugget.

You know, in terms of one of these guys finally trying to get over that home.

Yeah, that would line up to be, like potentially the most heartbreaking day in English history all around. They can't win the World Cup, can they? No, they can't. I mean, I think they're going to lose our Argentina in the Faulkland Island Bowl. But if they do, if they do win, then I'm just saying that Sunday,

with the open championship happening at the same time, that would just, that would be a crazy day in British sports. Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of one seeds in the final four. Big cat, do you have a rooting interest in the final four?

Do you have a, did you put that on anybody other time? Just messy. I'm a messy guy. I don't even care if, like, if you just put messy on any of the other teams, I'm rooting for that team.

It's actually kind of nice to pick a sport where you can almost be like a, a LeBron sexual, where it's like, I don't care where he goes. It's just a root for that guy. Like, no, at least it's a sport in the team. Yeah.

It's like a fun experience. Yeah, you just like, like Argentina loses, I'm going to be like, fuck those bombs, they let down my guy. Like, you can't, you know what I mean? And if they win, it's like, yeah, he carried these, these losers,

these plumbers to the World Cup title. What, what if, what if messy went to the four aces, big cat, or you're going to be a, or you're going to be a four aces guy? Yes, honestly, he could go anywhere. Okay.

Yeah. That's just a root for them. Maybe not the package. Like, I would be maybe too far, but like, I would still be like, damn, he really is good.

Yeah. I feel like respect messy's, you know, game over the middle. I want him to start ring chasing. I want messy to like, if, if Argentina loses, be like, messy, come to us.

We'll treat you right. We'll get you a passport. Yeah. Just become, you live here anyway, messy. Do you, do you guys battle with this?

You guys are like a year younger than me. Do you guys battle with this whole like the legacy sports band stuff? I feel like I'm in the, like at this point in my life. I just want to see guys or girls add to their legacy.

getting their first ring.

And I just want to see, like, staff or even, I mean, even joke of it. I found myself at Wimbledon kind of rooting for him to get it done. Like, do you guys battle that at all? I like asking the question of what it means for people's legacy.

I think it's a fun question to ask repeatedly. But no, I think there is something to that because I just, and I think it's us not wanting to admit that we're old. Yeah, no, it's the age. Yeah, if Dr. Vitches out, they're still winning,

then we can be like, you know, we're not that far out of our problems either. We still get out there and almost the same age as me. Yeah, I think when you get to a point in age where you, like, start seeing guys come and go to, you know, I mean, like, I remember when he was drafted and now he's retiring.

Oh, fuck. And like, oh, I remember his, now he's, we had Larry Fitzgerald on Friday and like his son's playing for Notre Dame. It's like, what? How does that make sense?

“That's why I never wanted Tom Brady to retire.”

And it's because like, it's the one. Yeah, we've seen all, we've seen all,

the Brown is a safe corner of the one.

He's one month older than me in PFT. Yeah. Like once he retires, I think we might have to, we might retire. Shut down the idea that we could ever be in the pros.

Yeah. I know, I know. It's like, it's really our window that's closing. If you think about it, it's not their window that's closing. It's more our window that's closing.

Like Big Cat, my son asked me the other day, I think Joe, which was on, my son who's seven asked me is am I older than him. And I was like, well yeah, like everybody on TV. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, so you don't have to ask that anymore. No, it's not even like the coaches. I'm older than all the coaches now, too. Well, the Brown son got drafted.

For me, I was kind of like, Tom hanging up. That one's tough. But yeah, I think it's right. The second LeBron retires. It's like that means that me and Big Cat are officially old.

Officially old. Yeah, we have to retire. Because we saw everything all though.

“He's going to play in every single world cup.”

That's right. Yeah. All right. So who can win this tournament? Who do we, and by the way,

I don't know if you know the shame, but the US open.

You are so, so close to never coming back on this show.

Yeah. Because call more common. Yeah. Call more common. When we asked who could not win this tournament,

you're like, call more common. Cannot win this tournament. And he was like, there was that stretch where he was like, fourth or fifth on Saturday. He was like, really?

His mother fucker. Didn't didn't win though, did he win? No, he wouldn't. You're right. But you were close.

Didn't win. We don't talk about third quarter's baby. We talked about all four days. That's true. Just like we do.

You're right. You're right. I got some, I got some names for you. You know, kind of, I'll start outside or into more of like the favorite names. Andrew Putnam is a name.

I like a little bit. Maybe like a top 10, top 20 bet drives it really straight. I'm going to say this a lot. You hit fairways at Berkdale. I'm going to like your chances.

So Putnam has played really solid golf this year. And looks like he's playing more comfortable golf in the bigger events. Which has been nice. Seeing some good finishes from him, like in signature events, things like that. Russell Henley also a name.

I like leads the PJ tour in driving accuracy. And I think that's going to be big.

“Matt Kutcher, if you remember back in 2017, was battling with Jordan Speath.”

Kutcher, not the longest guy in the world. And never has been. But as a guy that can find a lot of fairways. You think about Marco Mira back in 98. You know, he was kind of quote unquote past his prime.

But just hit it in the fairway. Got it around. Tommy Fleet was going to be an extremely popular name. You're going to hear a lot this week. Grow up in the area.

He's at five straight top 14 finishes coming into this open championship. Talking about lost years. Feels like it's been a bit of a lost year for Tommy Fleet. What after that win at the end of the season. This could change a lot of that.

Bobby Mac and other name. Another guy like just like the golf course fit for him played well. The Scottish three top 10s and his six starts at the open. So he's a name. And I also like to your whole hat.

And I mentioned the English, English been drought at the open championship. He has played really, really good as of late. Got to win it on live a month ago. Played wealth of US open played wealth of Scottish T 11 T 20 T 16 and three of his last four open starts. But my pick is going to be Victor Havelin.

I just think Vic has found something with the driver. He was actually PFT. He was trying to gain distance off the T. And he somehow lost distance off the T. That's like, you know, like, I'm going to go to the gym and get stronger.

And then you get more out of shape, which is not hopefully not the goal. But did you do anything like that? Did he get more accurate? No. No.

Yeah, bad. He's probably fire trainer. Well, well, the here's the good news. He's gotten better. This was like an apartment he lived in when he was playing great golf.

Like, like, strokes gain off the T things like that. He was down in like the high 80s low 90s before the last couple of weeks. And he has been great with the driver. He was top 10 in the department in the Scottish open. I just like the way Victor's played got the win over Scottish.

Sheffler. That's got to help the confidence up there in Connecticut. And he's played well with the open championship at a chance in 2022. Played alongside Rory at San Andrews played well in 2023.

I think Victor Havelin has found something. He's the guy that rides the confidence wave as well. All right. You kind of glossed over something here, which should have been your number one story. Because I eat listen, I don't know golf very well.

I'm looking for storylines. Tommy Fleetwood used to sneak on Royale Burkedale and practice with his dad when he was growing up. Yeah. You have to beat him. I need to realize he grew up there.

I'm just going to talk about Burkedale. Shane, this is a closer eyes and imagine the telecast when he's walking down 18. Yes. It's the same fairway he and his puppy. It actually might be, it might be too easy points.

It might be too low hanging through. But what it happened.

“But what we don't think is like, how dumb are we going to feel if we don't bet on him and that happens?”

Yeah. We could picture that. We saw that coming. It's a perfect story. Yeah.

I think the only counter to that is the fact that he doesn't really win that much in golf. I think that's the only counter to put out that. That's a fairway. But so how how many times he played the place that he literally practiced on as a kid? Did he play in the 2017 European Championship?

I would. I would venture to say he did not. Let me check real quick.

So this could be the first time he's playing in a big time event.

This closer. The crowd is going to love them. You could just see it. It's like, feel the dreams is dad like, you know, like maybe actually after. Yeah.

Yeah. How do you play? He did play in 2017. That was probably good for him back then. He was probably happy to be T 27.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Tommy's going to win this open championship.

“I think if I've learned anything about Tommy, we would.”

It's the higher I get on him. The more I love him. But I mean, you know, I said, call him work out. Wouldn't it win the US open? And he nearly did it.

So his family lived like on the course. No, so I just looked it up. He lived three miles away. He grew up around the corner and his dad. And he used to sneak on in twilight hours and place practice some holes.

I'm just sneaking me on. Seriously. We have to. I'm sorry. I'm going to bet.

You're the expert here. But I have to bet on time. Half two. You're the most. Oh.

It's poetic. I'll say this. I'll say this about Tommy Fleetwood. 10 straight majors without a top 10. I don't know if you could get after the great running was that in at the majors.

Really, 2022 through 24 when it felt like he was really starting to mock. Hasn't had that level of consistency in the major championship since then. But I'm never going to.

I'm never pushing you guys away from making about you want to make.

You know, I mean, you want to. You want to. You want to. You want to. It's such a beautiful story.

It is beautiful story. So I will take some of your advisors. You got you got Andrew Putnam. You got Russell Henley. - That culture, Tommy Fleetwood, as a maybe,

but no, I was like, no, Tommy Fleetwood. - Not that, not that culture, Matt. Cooture was 2017. We had, we had, we had, we had, Putnam Fleetwood, Robert McIntyre.

- Okay, and Havelin. - And Havelin. - And maybe Havelin. - I love Havelin.

“- Okay, I think Havelin's, I think Havelin's,”

the open champion. - What about our guys? - Brooch's, Max, Windham, now is kind of an honorary, our guy recently. - So how does he, like, play? - Is he like a, is he like a Bruce, Bruce of the year?

- We're, we're forgetting, he's never gonna be a,

a Blake, but we're, we're figuring it out. - Yeah, so he would be a Windham of the year. - Yeah, he's a Windrink, yeah. - Blake's don't drink wine. - It's a good point, they, they avoid the grape,

I would say, I, I, I don't love Brooks right now, just really inconsistent. There are moments, Capca looks great. He shot 66 out of the gate at the Scottish Open, and then the next day he shoots four over Mrs. The Cut.

He just, really since that WD and Canada with the whole hand thing, he hasn't really played the level of golf, you gotta be able to play to continue as one top 10 this season. And that was at the cognizant classic at the Palm beaches,

which is a lot of words to say about a golf tournament. I'm a little bit higher on Homa. He's just been kind of looking at the way he's played as a plate. Didn't play awesome at the, like the other PJ Torvin, this past weekend alongside the Scottish,

but he's been training the right direction two top 22 finishes before that second place finish at the deer, plus the open is his favorite major. And he continues to say, he likes playing this tournament and this dollar golf more than anything else.

So I kind of like max a little bit, okay? And then wind them. I mean, like, wind them is a, wind them is a top 10 bat right now. Okay, wind them is a top 10 bat everywhere.

Yeah, like everywhere he plays, top 10, very confident. I'm kind of, I kind of kick myself for not bringing them up in the Chinacock just for the way he was playing, but I mean, he played well with the Scottish. Like he's playing well everywhere right now.

I just think if you're looking at numbers, look at it when I'm Clark and you see a decent number on a top 10, top 20 bat, I think it's kind of free money right now with wind them Clark.

All right, Hank, do you have a question and can I ask question to you, Hank first? Sure, am I allowed to say what I witnessed today? Sure, Shane Bacon, have you ever witnessed this? I watched Hank play, played nine holes with Hank today.

He is now hitting driver righty, everything else lefty, putting righty. He's doing a righty Oreo on the golf course. (laughing) So wait, driver's righty.

Yes, three woods lefty. Yep. (laughing) It's crazy. All right, all right.

Hold on one second. All right, I got some questions for Hank. Okay, I'll put Robac on and just do the Robac question here. All right. You, so wait, let me just talk me through the process.

Like just talk me through how we got here. I'm trying to just take the best of both

where like driving righty was never a problem.

I can just step up and hit drives relatively in the same dispersion zone. But I've been playing all year lefty. So iron's in wedges. It's like I'm more comfortable with that.

I'm just going with what's most comfortable and maybe I'm completely mentally screwed. But I'm not thinking about this. You were thinking of his dispersion zone, Shane. You were thinking, you are thinking about this.

Yeah, you were thinking about this. When we played today, I joined him on the back nine and the first hole in the back nine was a part three. So I didn't think. And then I was kind of distracted on 11.

“And then at 12, I was like, what are you doing right now, Hank?”

'Cause he stepped up in the box with a righty driver. I was like, what are you doing? He's like, yeah, I'm driving righty. Everything else lefty, putting righty. I mean, the putting's not that weird.

I mean, I didn't like, no, to be gay used to double-sided putter my dad for a while, took one of my lefty putters out. And would put lefty and hit everything a righty. But the drivers, no, I mean, that is just.

Now, now Hank, listen, first of all, I mean, you aren't thinking about it 'cause you just said it on the couch. Are you nervous about what people are gonna say? No, no, why don't you get it?

I've been used to that. I mean, I play with people where I've had to explain, like, I'm playing lefty now and then I'm going and play a worse and they're just so confused. So that part, I've gotten over that, like people.

- I've been used to the people just being like, what the fuck is wrong with this kid? - It is one of the most interesting stories I've played without Hank and played with people and they've been like, so what is Hank doing?

Like, they'll bring it up to me. He's the talk of the town and we're in a pretty big town. - It's like a terminal illness.

“That's why he was to bring it up to him,”

but they'll bring it up to his friends. - Yeah, he's doing okay.

- Yeah, we always think, okay.

- The crazy thing is I thought at Hank left handed as a driver's pretty good. I thought you were hitting the ball pretty straight. The dispersion zone was good, the distance was good. Did you just have one bad day driving lefty

and you're like, I'm just trying to-- - I'm trying now, I'm trying to have a bad day. - Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out the recipe that goes lowest possible without accepting that it might just all be right.

- Yeah, my people, the hate to cap you had. - Right, it's like I'm looking all around the world for my partner and it was the girl I went to prom with the whole time, like, this is what I was born with and the way I go.

- It's a fascinating story because golf is the hardest game in the world and people will go at length to try to figure it out and Hank was like, you know what? I'm gonna make it even harder. I'm gonna switch and now I'm gonna switch back.

- Yeah, I'm not switching back. - So it's been a 10 per hour. - Oh, I'm trying to-- (laughing) - So Hank, I have another follow-up question for you.

- So in terms of where in a glove, what are you doing glove lives? Are you going, no glove lives in the drives? - Okay, okay, and then you're lefty glove, or you're a bright hand a glove for your eyes.

- Yeah, and then no glove buddy.

“- Yeah, I think there probably was a couple of times”

where I just wasn't thinking about it and put my glove on and so with the drive, but when I'm thinking about it, it's no glove. - Why not double-dove, why not air and ride? - I don't wanna like, that would be weird.

- So it was actually an advantage for at the open, like if you got shitty weather, he's only got his got two gloves. - Oh, he's the only one used to it. I think it's a great call PFT.

I mean, the fact that those guys pull out the weather glove if it's gonna rain, forecast doesn't look very wet this week, but I think in theory, in the future ones, like St. Andrew's next year for rains, maybe you'll get a little nod there and ride.

- And the iron covers too, keep them nice and clean. - Just some of the things about that. - Great point, you're all over right now. - You know what, you're a year ahead right now. - I might be, yeah, you just,

what happens around the green now? Like are you chipping, righty? - Are you huffing? - Huffing now?

- Bunker shots always do that.

- Yeah, yeah. - You know, never heard about going back. - Why are you so confused, dude? So it's putting, yeah, drive, driving, yeah. - And if you would've been 14 clubs in your bag.

- Yep. - What if he had drive off the day? - Okay. - I would, I mean, I have a righty driver. So yeah.

- So you gotta go right. - Yeah, okay. - He's got it. - All right, what was your question to Shane Hanks? - All right, it was, it is fascinating.

It's one of the most fascinating stories in golf right now.

would be weird. (laughing)

- You're doing the weirdest thing ever.

- I know. - He didn't give me a break. - You gave me a break. - You know how weird that was. - How funny that was.

- Okay, go ahead Hank. - It's a great thought. - You talk about storylines. One guy that I want to bet on, but I'm worried about speaking of irons

or his clubs is Justin Rose. 'Cause I feel like that would be a fun story, but I feel like he has, he switched to the Mazurati Irons or whatever, and then has not been playing well.

(laughing)

“- Yeah, I mean, I honestly think we're past it.”

To be fair, I think he's shown enough with the new Irons, the McLaren Irons. - I'm sorry. - To where I'm not. I'm not, by the way, the Mazurati Irons,

be good at like that. - It made me think about what Mazurati ought to iron. But no, I think we're past it. I think he looks at these things as opportunity.

And then I think he's one of those guys that I think has an opportunity to win this open championship. You know, it's weird. In 2017, we got to Berkdale, and it was his wide open in terms of who you like to win that open

as maybe ever, Jordan Speath was second favorite. He went on to win. But I think about right now, like Scott is not playing great. Rory, a little all over the map.

He's kind of got this problem where one round a week, he placed poorly in. Even did it when he won the Mazurs. He shot that 73, I think on Saturday.

But he can't have always the one kind of not great round.

I go down the world ranking list. And there's not a lot of names. I'm overly scared of.

“And I think about the way Justin Rose seems to show up”

at the majors. I think if you're, if you're kind of itch into battle, I like the bed just because I think Justin Rose, at least has the potential to put together four good rounds. - Love it.

- And got her up, got her up smile there, my other horse. - Our got her up a lot. I feel like he-- - Monster. - He played, doesn't have to worry about the winning Scott show up and again, curse.

Still played well. Why not him? - Yeah, I think he's, if you were going to ask me, what are my, like my odd board? He'd probably be a top it.

I mean, just in terms of the ways playing golf right now. And the confidence level and obviously getting a crack, at least golf last year, and showing off his skillset. I think got her up is up there. I think Cameron Young is still up there as well,

even though he hadn't played as good as of late. I'm Rose Victor, those guys are all near, I mean, in my opinion, you're like a scottie number. I don't, I don't love Can Smith, he bucked at the PGA, then that quickly went away.

- Yeah, did you see that the open championship put out a statement kind of warning fans like,

“hey, we're not gonna do any of that American shit over here?”

- I mean, yeah, like, they have to warn them to do that, but it's just not really in their DNA. Like they want to go out and be in the sun and put on way more sunscreen than we've ever worn in our lives

and they just want to watch good golf, man. Like, that's what this is about. This is a great golf area where Berkdale is, like this is an area that gets this major championship once every 10 years, they get fired up for it.

And they believe that their golf courses is good as any on the road, I think the players back that up as well. So yeah, they're not gonna come out. I mean, these got there, not coming out and being long Island fans.

They're just gonna come out and, you know, and hit the ice cream when it's 92, you know? - Yeah, I thought there was one line in there that was like, we just sell it. We only will celebrate great play at a fair and sporting manner.

Which seemed to be them being like, hey, you're not gonna do the Yankee stuff here. We're not gonna boo guys that might be in the lead on Sunday. I mean, do you want booing in golf, PFT? Do you want do you want, like, do you want it to be in 10?

- I think I do, I think I do, but, but, that said, I don't, I don't want it in certain circumstances. I don't want out of Gusta. - Okay. - Gusta, every, that's like we go back in time.

We mind our manners. Everyone acts like they're over at their grandparents' house. That's what, that's what a Gusta is. That's what it's for. I do like the, the rider cup mentality.

I like when we're booing people when there's heroes, when there's villains. I think it's, it sounds way, way worse than it actually is because we're just not used to it and golf sometimes. - Mm-hmm. And, and I think like when we figure out

live in the PGA tour and everybody's like playing in the same arena again and the live thing kind of slowly dissipates and disappears, I do think, you know, the idea of a villain helps the game and I think having the villain in the same stage

as the hero, if you will and I mean, I think having those types of names around makes golf, we're interesting, the problem obviously with live is a lot of those guys that are quote unquote villains went away while the PGA tour guys

were just out there playing and we kind of lost a little bit of that rooting for and also rooting against thing that, you know, is obviously available in every other sport just doesn't feel that available in golf. - Yeah. Okay, Shane, last question,

always great having you on, we actually did,

I think you, I think you came on for every major. So now it's the, the Shane, it's the reverse of the race race and slow on that. - Right, yeah, yeah. And again, watch post round on CBS Sports.

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put his joggers shorts, roback.com, promo code take I'm wearing it right now, Zack. - What's going on, Shane, how are we doing today? - Turn it up. - Oh man, I didn't think I was, I barely heard you,

which is okay, but barely hearing you is better than not hearing you at all, Zack.

“- And where's it got more volume from through for you right now?”

- Everyone's curious. - Way better. - There's a drink here recently, Shane, with guys getting into golf who maybe don't have the fastest club head speed so they're jumping straight to the flex shafts. Is that a viable option and if, like, what are your thoughts on it?

There's a wave of that going around online, I just want to know from guy who does play good golf if that's something beginner golfers should get into. - So the question is, should beginner golfers look at a shaft through an equipment change

to help them out in terms of hitting it longer? - Yeah, should they jump straight ahead to like the more forgiving flex shafts if they don't have the club head speed? - I think first and foremost to beginner golfers

try to figure out like the fundamentals of the golf swing. Whether it's just hitting it solid, getting into the air, avoiding dribbling it, whatever you're doing wrong, I would work on the fundamental stuff

before I start worried about how far I'm hitting it. I mean, obviously hitting it far is more fun, but I would probably focus a little bit more on, like weight shifting and solid contact and things like that before I started to venture

into the shaft world, but I've had some friends, Zack that hit it pretty short that have gotten into that world and have picked up mega distance with it. But there's also the stack system is something you can use that you can swing like in your apartment,

as well it's a space-care weighted club and you can swing it to work on that. It's like kind of like a little golf workout. - Okay, Zack, good question to follow up 'cause Zack actually knows a lot about shafts.

“- I think it's important part of the game.”

- Let's up with that. - Yeah, what is up with that? - Are you like Google at 'em or what? - Yeah, I'm watching videos on 'em, yeah. YouTube videos though, yeah.

- 'Cause you don't even have a set of clubs. - Yeah, but you gotta know what you're gonna into with the equipment, you know? - You don't want a lot of shafts. - I don't even have the answer.

- Hey, wait a minute. Why are you trying to ask how are you asking me about this? - I hate my goventus overkill and some of his clubs, kind of crazy. - Look at them, look at them.

- Look at them spin that out. - So Zack, let me ask you a question. Still know clubs, you work for a company that I believe has to deal with the OEM that probably can provide you a full set of clubs.

What are you doing? Just send an email, my man. - I'm just making sure I come with the right information.

- Yeah, you always want to be educated on what you're trying

to get into it. - Yeah, shout it around right now. - I don't know if you want to make a commitment. - Shane, you know when you were a kid, you probably are like me, you had the East Bay catalog

that came every single month. - Of course. - And you just, of course. - You know, imagine getting the different sports equipment and then when you finally got it, it's exactly what you wanted,

exactly what you studied over for like the last three months and you've had time to day dream about it. Think about what those shafts are gonna be like in your hands. I'm sure Zack just wants to get into that, like almost fantasy mindset where he's thinking about

these shafts and then when the perfect shaft comes, it's just as he imagined. - He's dating right now. - Cheat. - Yeah, I do feel like, let me say this, Zack.

Before the fundamental talk I said earlier,

“I think one of the first things you got to do”

is get a set of clubs. Like I think that's almost like step one for a golfer. Is that how own a set of clubs? - That's super fair. - Yeah, I did have a quick follow-ups

since we were talking equipment. You did speak a little bit earlier about Bryson's struggling with his iron play. Do you think it's a 3D printed irons and if so is he into deep,

can he just has to stick with him? - I think he tinkers a lot. I honestly think it's the one link thing to me. I mean, I just, I don't love the one link irons. He hits so many short irons.

You think about how far he hits it's Zack. I mean, one of the longest and professional golf and the fact that his law of wedge and say in wedge and pitching wedge and all this stuff

with the same link, he's always struggled

with this kind of concoxity has in his bag of getting the ball close after a perfect drive and I just feel like it's deteriorated over time and it's just gotten to a point where now he's not taking advantage of booming it off the tee.

I just feel like, honestly, you can go one link through like seven iron for me and I'd be fine but I think about the scoring clubs for Bryson and again, nobody else on tours doing this. They're not doing it for reason.

I think if you're Bryson just try it, man. You know, like, what are you gonna hurt? You just miss three cuts in a row at majors and look like you're headed for four in a row. You know, unless he gets the standing elevation,

he got in that YouTube video. So I just feel like he's gonna, he needs to maybe just try one thing different. Mm-hmm. All right, well Shane, thank you as always.

You're the best. We appreciate everyone go check out Shane on CBS Sports and like I said, he's got some big interviews coming up and we gotta figure out what time to get you to Chicago.

We gotta play around, it'll be fun. Do a video. Gotta do it before it gets cold. Zidz, I'm gonna do a part of it by the way. Oh, my picture, did he get something?

I did get the keys yesterday. Sure. Yeah, we're all moving in. We're all gonna move him in for a video. 'Cause he has the stuff he owns.

Oh, he says he doesn't own a golf club.

He probably doesn't own a bed. I have a friend working on a picture for you,

“but now I think he's making it for everybody at the pod.”

Love that. So I'll send him, but obviously, just Zach, I just want you to know you're the reason for this. It's not a big cat's not the reason you're the reason. You're the god.

Love that. You two conch and do appreciate it so much, man. It was great talking care with you today. I really enjoyed that. By the way, love Chan, my de-boys.

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Pick up some well-made, well-priced fruit of the loom today. Okay, let's wrap up. We got guys on chicks. Henry, sub-ladies. Hey, PMT boys. What's up?

How you doing? I have a golf question.

“What do you guys even talk about for four plus hours when you're all together?”

For example, whenever my husband gets home from golfing and I ask how his friends are, he says, "They are good." His friend and wife just bought a house and I asked him, "Is he excited?" And when are they moving in? He said, "Uh, I think he's excited."

Not sure when they're moving in next month, maybe. What do you guys talk about? Just fun stuff. Nothing we try to not talk about anything related to real life whatsoever. You're bolstering for four hours.

It depends, too. If it's people you know, it's like just whatever. I mean, we could just not talk, too.

If it's people you've never golfed with, then you'll do the general background, all that

stuff. I mean, I'm trying to think of my last, what do we talk about on Wednesday? The weekend, yeah. And what do we talk about? Well Monday we talked about how much we missed Hank.

Where's Hank? Was most of the conversation. But yeah, no, it's very like, "Gener, I don't even think." It's also like, I think girls think about it because they're like, "Oh, when I go to dinner with my friends, we're at a dinner table and we're together for four hours."

Golf is like a lot of, you know, you're together, but separate, but together, like, there's not really time to have longer than like a 10 minute conversation. There's quick things like in the tea box and you've got to go find your ball in the woods and you've got to hit out of the woods. And you might be like teamed up with one of your friends, so that person is your actual

friend for that afternoon and then you're playing against your other two friends. So you're just going to make fun of your other two friends much as you can and just kind of bullshit and fuck around for four hours. And you're like gambling and getting like two V2 gambling, so as you're talking about that, like who's up, who's down, all that stuff.

And also talk about a lot of other times you've played golf and there's other rounds you played recently. Versus? Yeah. Last time I played this whole.

This is what I did. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah.

“I think the, I think the car girl likes me.”

A lot of that. Yeah. It's basically nothing. Hello. I'm pointing to get married in January, 2027.

My fiance Tony is your guy's biggest fan. He listens to episodes daily while working in the apps about your podcast at home. I could not. He gets excited when certain sporting events take place or certain plays happen simply because it'll make a great episode for him to listen to.

When I saw this in Instagram, I got super excited. And he words of wisdom for him. I love that. Tony seems like a great guy. I love when people say that type of thing, like that actually makes me feel really

really good. Well, it also makes. I'm happy that Tony is able to like, he sees something like, probably, let's be honest. Probably terrible. I was like Tony is a sick one.

He's a sick one. And he's like, I can't wait to hear how Hank reacts to the half time show the Super Bowl when he was getting his ass kicked. Yeah. Jim Braugatry.

Oh, you got a tune in. Right. I like Tony a lot. Words of advice for Tony. He's getting married.

Duke, listen, Tony, I'm gonna say this once. You just let us know and we'll call this whole thing off. Okay. We'll get the fuck out of here.

You never have talked to any of these people again.

Just hit the road, open road, you and the PMT guys gone. Just dust in the wind. So just let us know. We're in. Yeah, I would say more than anything, just it's a true partnership.

Communication. Communication. Yeah. Communication is key. You have any hobbies that you think you're going to want to pick up at any point for

Start doing it now. Now, right now. It's hard dad. Yeah. Yeah.

You have to play poker. Yeah. Real hard dad. You just do, actually, do all the hobbies right now then you can, when you cut them out, you're here.

I love you so much that I gave up quilting babe. Oh, shit. I'm not larping anymore. That's because I want to spend time with you because larping actually sounds pretty long.

Hey guys, my boyfriend has been preoccupied by the World Cup last few weeks, but ever since USA was knocked out, he keeps saying how many Sundays there are to football starts. Yep. For some context. There's nine.

We live in California and most of his friends live in Chicago every Sunday at 10 a.m. since he can't hang out with them to watch together. He and his friends face time for the start of the games.

He continues to face time until the last game ends around 830 p.c. basically 10 hour

straight. He's done this every Sunday for the past five years won't do anything else besides face time to watch football. This friends on Sundays. Love that.

My question is, what am I supposed to do during this time and is this healthy for him to do? They also do this every Monday and Thursday night game. That's only a few hours. Am I insane thinking that this isn't sane?

It drives me nuts. He doesn't want him to do anything else. Curious your thoughts. Thanks. Football.

No. That's a lot of face time. Yeah. Love this boy's.

“Actually, you should not complain because it sounds like he doesn't watch college”

football. So count your lucky star. That is true. We could add Saturday. You want to add Saturday?

Tuesday? Tuesday Wednesday. Friday. You don't want that. You're one of the lucky ones.

Sunbelt. Yeah. Just let that listen.

This is what the majority of us are hobby and also shout out all the guys out there

that are going through it next week. The guys that maybe spent like the entire last month and a half treating the world cup as their full-time job. I do feel for them because there are those guys out there. Listen, we all go through things that we have to fill the gap that football leaves when

there's no football on. This has got me. Yeah. I just started thinking about it. But there's too much time in between.

No, but I like the anticipation, like the getting excited for it's like almost a best part. I love football. It's so good. It's the best thing.

That's why it's like I can't get that upset about like a V England when this is the soccer match. I land on my own. I'm only moving the Friday before. Are you still doing this?

Oh, wedding thing? Yeah. You got another wedding? No. We're doing your vows.

I'm going to, I can't. I'm going to talk to you again. I'm just going to be the only top one. It's going to be only top one. Oh, buddy.

Oh, buddy. That's not true. Yeah, I know.

“If there's something happening, we're going to be calling you for emergency podcast.”

Oh, yeah. I'm bringing them up. I'm bringing them up.

Will you land the Friday before Labor Day?

I land in Chicago the Friday of Labor Day weekend. So that's Saturday. That's convenient. So you land right. You've taken two weeks and then landed right before another three days.

Three days. It's nothing. Absolutely. That's a great timing by you. I'm so excited.

Although we do podcast on Sunday night. So it's actually two days. Correct. Labor Day. Yeah.

We do it. Wait. Yeah, because it's college football. Although Wisconsin playing Notre Dame. No.

I think we'd normally do. Oh, yeah. No, we do Tuesday. Tuesday Wednesday. Yeah.

I'm going to do it. Okay. Good show, boys. Great show. Oh, by the way.

Bruce Levin did apologize. The Jadden Carter Hawkins. Probably. Probably. So that's a.

Can move on. Yeah. Twinkle D. Twinkle Dumb. Change. I just realized the mistake I've made in this show.

Because I made fun of Shane's. I made fun of Shane's blockbuster ping. Yeah. On a day that I got a haircut and a beard trim. So my face is looking extra fat.

I'm expecting a tough thumbnail for me today. Real tough. You look so happy. It's going to be a tough. I listen.

I don't. It is what it is. I posted, like, when you're high posted the one that was just so egregious. It was like, I don't think it's some bad ones.

It looks like somebody put it like a bicycle. But I post them. But I just realized I've set myself up for a bad one to the pretty. Good. Chuck.

Chuck graphic. Did you guys see that? Yeah. Yeah.

“But with thumbnails like that, Shane, you should work for the onion.”

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