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“May 8th. And boys, I think the Lakers are in a lot of trouble. We just watch the end of this game.”
The Thunder are so goddamn good. Credit to the Lakers for being up at half, but that third quarter. They just shaded even play basically in the third quarter. You got that technical. They just ratcheted up the defense and defense leading to offense. Jared McCain, just whapping threes,
would never have traded that guy. I don't know. PFT like that. We said this before. It's not shocking
because it's like we knew the Thunder would that much better than the Lakers. But when we had half time when the Lakers were up, one, you're like, oh, maybe I don't know. No, no, 18 point win. The Thunder are so goddamn good. They can do it. They have guys after guys after guys. They just basically, when they need to get going, they'll throw the torture chamber at you. The throw crew so at you. They'll get it going on the defense event. Then get it going on the offense event.
And there's nothing you can do about it. They were cruising. Congratulations to the Lakers for for winning a half though. I feel like that might be as good as it gets. It doesn't look like Luke
Is coming back.
every single break. Everything was going their way. And then, yeah, they're just too deep. The Thunder's
way, way, way too deep. Chad had a monster night on defense. Cruiser always just scrappy playing
great defense. And yeah, there's really nothing that they could do. Right. The Lakers are done. It, they should be allowed to give up. I would not hold it against Lebron's legacy if he did the fake injury right now. Yeah. I mean, it's like, you just look at what the Thunder can do where they just have so many good players. And Shay, S.J. has not had an SGA type game yet, where he's, you know, making everything in sight and scoring 35 points. But it doesn't matter because
in walks to your McCain in case and Wallace, and they go, I think they went five or six for eight from three. Like, it's just, how do you stop that when you have that many guys on the bench that can give you good minutes? And their defense is always so connected and they play so well and harass everyone and everything feels difficult. I just, yeah, it's the Thunder are just that good. I am also, you know, this is the part of the playoffs where people start complaining about
flopping all that stuff. I'm not going, I'm just going to respect the Thunder greatness. Because that's what I feel like when I'm watching this team, I get it. There's some things that you might not like, if you're watching this team play defense and then have, have guy after guy hit big shot,
“you have to take a step back and be like, they're just a great, great basketball team and there's”
not a lot of answers for a team like the Lakers who are undermaned and injured and they just don't have enough. I mean, yeah, it's 19 in need to flop. The flops weren't necessary. It was, it was just good basketball. They just dominated with a good basketball. Had a lot of guys off the bench scoring points. So you mentioned Jared McCain, that guy's really good. Really good. That guy, that's a guy you don't let out the building. If you get him in the inside your building. Agreed. I'm going to knock
him down guy. And if you do get him out, you get a King's ransom for him, which I'm sure I'm sure Philadelphia got decent amount of picks for him. Jared McCain and AO, that's what you got to say about the trades that happened in this. Oh, you want me to say it again? I owe? Yeah, we didn't say his name right, but shoo fuck it. You knew what I was saying? Yeah, dude, the Poles were trying to lose. So you just trade young guys and go for 43 in a playoff game? Well, he was going to, he was going
to be a free agent. I mean, the Poles are not, why are you making it about the Poles? The Poles are non-glue. You're trying to knock on me. You did the exact same thing. No, the Poles are non-competitive franchise that is a joke of a franchise run by absolute morons and fools. The six of you are trying to win a title and they have a envy, but still the roster. No one says that. I just thought they became a good team. Good tonight. And he was a guy that that should have been a rookie of the year.
I just don't throw you guys out. I'm not. We also got four second round picks for it, dummy.
We got four picks total. What picks? A first and then two and three seconds. I would rather have four seconds personally because that way, you can focus on your scouts on second round talent
“as opposed to having, like now you're spread all over the board. You have to have guys that are”
scouting top 10 picks, too. That's, this is a reach max. I look at, I, I, I mean, yes, it is because the situations are completely different in the fact that Jeremiah McCain could help the sixers write this second. I, oh, they were trying to tank and trying to finally lose and try to clean house and everything. The, I, I, I, I'll defend you about you said at the time. You're like, why, why did, why did the sixers make this trade? Because there's no one to make this trade. Yeah.
No, no, no, Philly fans wanted to make this trade. Nick Nursh wouldn't play him in the first half
of the year and nobody knew why. He would get like six minutes a game for a team that had no bench. Like, I get there was a lot of guards that were, like, there was a log jam at guards and it was tough to get throw minutes around. But if a guy is that good, like, if the thunder confined minutes for him, the Philadelphia fucking 76ers can find minutes for. Agreed. And right now we're going with the seven man line up at best. And we have no scoring off the bench. We have one guy you can score
off the bench. Yeah. Quentin Grimes is the only guy who can score off the bench. And it's like once every three games he gives us something. Jared McCain's coming in here. The past two games he's been,
“it's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. Yeah, he's, I think he's four for five,”
four for five. He's, he's eight for ten and he's just a microwave and it's exactly what the sixers could use. Like, Tyre's actually wouldn't have, wouldn't have had to play 50 minutes yesterday if we had Jeremy King. Yeah. And it's, it's, uh, yeah, I don't really know what I'll say about this series. And the, I mean, watch Jeremy King tonight. You are like, how, how, how, how is Sam
Presti get?
Just continue to add? No, probably get like another top 10 pick on Sunday when they do the lottery. Yeah. Yeah. This crazy. They are on up. You know that's awesome. Reeves Reeves was awesome tonight for the lake. He was given a little bit of credit because he was explosive and he's a guy that like, he, he was trying to do what LeBron used to do 10 years ago in games like these and series like these.
It was basically Reeves against the Oklahoma City Thunder tonight and, uh, that just wasn't enough.
Yeah. And it was a good bounce back game because game one, which we didn't recap, but we kind of nailed, uh, early some of us like the thunder were going to win easily. The, he was bad in game one. He was. And he, like, he needed a bounce back game. But again, it doesn't matter. I don't even think
“if LeBron was playing, it would matter. I really don't. I think it matter a little bit. No,”
it would matter a little bit. But I'm saying, LeBron, how they look, uh, the lake are still doing not win this series. Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. I mean, he, he's not going to guard anybody. Like they, they might win a game or two, but like in the, yeah, I mean, maybe game three,
there, you get the bounce of like being at home and, you know, the thunder have been beat
before in the playoffs. But still, I just don't even think with LeBron, this, this lake is team, they're just, they're just, they're just completely outmaned by the thunder. Because the thunder or they would, we should, we should nitpick the thunder. I feel like we owe it to them. They've reached that level of dominance where we have to just try to find something wrong with them. Lou Dortz got a shoe better. Dortz got a shoe better. He wasn't, he won't, but he has to.
“But you'd like to see him try. I don't like the T-shirts tonight. I didn't like to mark blue shirts.”
Where, where are the light colored ones that they pop, they're more intimidating. The dark blue ones, you kind of, and the colors that were on the court tonight, you kind of lose track of where the game is being played. This is, this is an Adam silver problem that we got to talk about next time. He comes on because I said the same thing. The, the, obviously the T-shirts were to match the jerseys in the court. This is the one alternate game they have to do. Hate it, hate it, hate it.
I loved the, the, the blue that the thunder usually have. And I just, yeah, it was, that was disgusting by the thunder. There we go. We nitpicked them. I did like the outline of the state of Oklahoma. That was on the court, though. Yeah. That was an eye touch. They're interviewing Jared McCain right now. Blake Griffin, our good friend, Blake Griffin, talking to Jared McCain in the Amazon Prime Studio. They'd probably say, and like, dude, you're so good. Also Jared McCain, if you Google them,
because I was trying to figure out what the trade was, his, his like main image pictures just him shirtless, like look at real sassy. That's it. I would love it if that came up for me. Yeah. All right. The other game, boys, I, uh, I love James Harden. Yeah. It's just, he's so, you could just set your watch to it. It's just so funny that it just, as the playoffs go, we're going to get James Harden, missing it's on a shot, it's falling all over himself, doing ice so ball. And not only that,
we're having this discussion before the show, PFT Max and Zach, because you guys aren't here. Do we as a new, we, we, we, we newly realized that we are a strip club podcast, primarily Zach and memes. As a strip club podcast is James Harden, he's kind of our go, like we have to defend it, right? No, well, I, I actually, I, I went through some stats tonight because I, I was talking our good friend Ryan Rousillot the other night, who, by the way, still owes me a mash up highlight
real of James Harden game one. Yes, he's like, you won't believe all these plays. I'm making a highlight real. I'm going to send it to you. He promised that to me. So if my analysis is lacking a little bit, I, I hate to throw Ryan on the bus. He did promise me a highlight real that he would handcraft for me that has not made it to my desk yet, but based on what I saw tonight, I went online and I did some
“math. I think James Harden just does not give a fuck the playoffs because it's such a massive”
pay cut that he has to take every single post is. Yeah. So in the second round right now,
each player is getting, according to last year's figures, the play of full might have changed a little bit this year. Each player is getting about $37,000 for this second round play off series. That's regardless of if it's four games or if it's seven games. So that would be a maximum of about ten days work for James, which would mean it would kind of extrapolate to $11,000 per month. Okay, is what James Harden is making based on his play in this series. James Harden regular,
He makes 40, let's see, he makes $3.
30 times less than he would normally make to play basketball based on what he's doing in this series.
“I think at this point he's like, it's not worth my time. I'm not getting paid enough.”
Fuck this shit. I'm going to go to the titty bar. Yeah, I think James Harden has been like this his whole career. Some guys really are wired because they really want to win badly and they want to have a championship, they care about legacy and all that shit. James Harden, he's like, no, it's my job. I'm awesome at my job. I love being awesome at my job. You know why? Because I get hell of lap dances because I get paid so much money. Yeah, I'm not going to pay me a
lot of money. I'm not really going to be that motivated in the playoff. So I think that's the case for James. Yeah, I agree. It's a compelling case. Through two games, he's got nine field goals made 11 turnovers. This is a fourth, fourth game of these playoffs that he has more turnovers and field goals made. He had zero points in the fourth quarter. He had that turnover at the at the end that was very funny where he just kind of sort of fall. He like broke his own ankles and I listen, I know
there's going to be a lot of people being like bum like this, that or the other probably all true like in the playoffs we're talking about. I think I love them because you can just set your watch to it and there's something about having a consistent like a guy who consistently shows up and says, hey, you know what? The lights are too bright. I just love it. You just know you just know you
wouldn't you turn on the game in a playoff game in the second round. The lights will be too bright
for James Hard. I think we shouldn't brace to bat on this. We might disagree a little bit. Is James Hard in a Choker? I don't think he has a choke artist. I think to be a choke artist,
“the moment has to be too big for you. You have to care too much about it and get nervous. I think”
James Hard is just like fuck it. I don't really care. I would say he was maybe when he won an MVP then you could be like, I had choke artists. But like at this point of James Hard in this career, no, I do not think he's a choke artist because I just think we all know it's going to happen. It's not, it just doesn't feel like, oh, man, he choked. It's like, no dude, it's just James Hard. It's it's it's mid-May, it's late-May. Guy just doesn't want to be playing ball right now. And I think that if you ask him,
you have to really deeply care about something to choke at it. So he's like, I can't really disappoint myself or anybody else if I don't give my all. Yeah. Like, okay, maybe if I tried harder, I would have won, but I guess what? I didn't care. And they just, the calves is a team. Like, Evan Mobley had one rebound. There was a moment where none of the Mitchell just didn't even
“try to fight through a screen. And I can't remember, I think was Dean Wade was just like,”
come on, man. And they just, they feel, feels bummerish for the calves because this is a team that has been, you know, been building, building building. And the pistons all credit in the world to Tobias Harris, who had another 20 point game, Duncan Robinson, who just kept on hitting big three after big three,
also Duncan Robinson, incredible playoff mustache. Like, he knows that that thing is not really working,
but it is working because it's kind of so bad that it's good. And it's like, whoa, is this, he almost, his mustache is like the beginning of like a Netflix documentary where bad shit's about to happen. And it's like showing him, you know, smiling and stuff. You're like, ah, something off of this guy. That's the mustache. Where it's like, he's not doing that mustache being like, look how full it is. He's like, hey, I'm, I'm like, oh, crazy. I might fucking hit a bunch of threes in your face.
It reminds me of like, uh, early stages, Cindy Crosby playoff beard. Yeah, like late 2000, Cindy Crosby playoff beard is what it's looking like. And then, and then Kate Cunningham, who's like, you know, we were talking about the ascension of his superstardom. Like in the fourth quarter, he's like, yeah, I got to take this game over. And the pistons, I mean, they, they struggled with the magic for five out of the seven games. Maybe they, maybe they lose a couple in Cleveland, but they, they look like the better team
and Kate Cunningham is the best player on the court. And that usually can help you win a playoff series. Yeah, he was great passing the ball tonight too. I think, uh, I think it's, I would say six games, pistons and six is what it feels like to me. Uh, I do think that the, that they're going to, when a couple games at home, the cabs will. But the cabs did go from being, like, young and really, really fun to just kind of depressing and sad real quick. And I, and I don't know what put my finger on,
It's easy to just say, like, James Harden because it's playoff Harden.
anything else to it. So I don't know what you guys saw, but they do feel like they've just become a pretty big bummer after a couple of postseason's where it's like super exciting, super young. You don't know what you're going to get, but it's going to be a good time. Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh,
good, good for the pistons. So the Detroit basketball chain always goes in the playoffs.
“I would like to see the pistons put a little bit more color in the key. Okay. I'd like to get some,”
some blue and some red on the court. Um, like, I, the wood grains kind of classic, but it's, it's looking too much like a 1970 YMCA gym. I kind of like that classic look. They can feel classic to me, where there's just not a lot of noise. Not a lot of, I'd like to see the logo be smaller if you're not going to go with any of the paint on the inside though. I think that would make it look even classic. Yeah. Well, classic or I like that. Well, classical, classical,
uh, anywhere it's on Tobias Harris, Max, is he what he has been playing well. Don't care. He's been fine. Okay. Are you still flared up? Flyers dead. Okay. I, I watch, I watch that whole game and they're, their, their power play is atrocious. They, their power plays atrocious. They also just had a five on three and they couldn't even
get a shot on goal. They also like the first, they just couldn't get the, the puck in the net.
I feel like they were so close. And that's credited to gold tending. But yeah, I don't, I don't know
“hockey. I don't know hockey, but I feel like when you have a man advantage, you should at least get”
some shots on goal. That, that was my biggest takeaway of the game is they had so many power plays. I was like, all right. This is the time. This is the time. Now, now we go. Now we go. And then it was just like nothing. It was just a whole lot of nothing. Yeah. For my experience playing against the, the hurricanes and the playoffs, Max, you're going to want to score a goal in the first 10 minutes. Because if you, if you, if you do the thing where you have a couple of the golf, the post
really good scoring opportunities, maybe you blow a power play and you're looking at a zero.
After that first 10 minutes, you know that games over. You have to, you have to like not make
any mistakes early in the game so that you can get some confidence and play with the lead. Otherwise, you're totally fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Do we have anything else before we get back to the studio and ourselves altogether? No Hank this episode. He's traveling. He's got a wedding. I, I will say that Hank, we, we're going to have to demand a, a, a talks pick from him. We need to see him in the talks. Got to see him. I'm also really upset. He's not here to see my new Mike. Yeah,
you. I thought that I, it doesn't, it's not good Max. I, I'm so, good Max. The people, the people are listening better appreciate this because Hank was adamant. Say thank you people. Everyone, say thank you Hank. Funker. Hashtag, thank you. I, I still, I, so we did go home. Big cat went back to the office because his basement's being refinished. Yeah, but is Zach on the couch? No, he's right there. He's right there.
So, PFT. I'm, I'm at home. I'm in the, you're, you're in the right now. I'm right corner. Okay. I'll give you there. Yeah. I'm in the office hybrid right now. And I just heard your voice a second ago and it sounded beautiful. And I assumed it was, it was a studio microphone, but you got, you got the Hank Mike too. Yeah, we got, we got some, we got some Mike's phone. We, we, all the boys sound good. We had a little issue PFT before you joined Zach got up, take a piss,
and we were just like, Zach, we got to get Zach a bigger apartment. Like, we're looking at his entire apartment right now. Like, we, like, got to find a bigger apartment for him. He deserves more, you can afford more. He deserves more. And then he came back and we realized that he, his headphones were on the entire time. He just listened to us say all of that. Take the unheaded on, unheaded on the headphones. I was worried you guys could hear me pee. I kind of freaked out in there. So,
“for them, I remember the mindset here sounds good. They kind of happened this morning. We were”
doing a wake-up bar stool. And we had Taylor McGregor on. She does the sidelines with the cubs and some college football. So she was on top of it. So let's, let's introduce her to the correct way. What's that? She's friend of Mincey. She's, I guess, a friend of Mincey's too. But she was on the show. It's the commercial. We're about to come back. Titus gets up to go to the bathroom. They didn't cut his mic off. And so he goes to the bathroom and just takes a big piss and Taylor
and just popped onto the zoom call. And all she hears is just Titus just pouring straight out. And Titus is a hog. He's got a hog. You could tell from the stream, too. Like, for sure. Wait out. Bang. Guys, fucking hung. We had the, uh, the Taylor McGregor's great. The, uh, Austin Reeves, I'm, I'm finding this. So I think Austin Reeves said that's some bullshit for you to
Talk to me like that pussy to one of the refs.
understand what the meeting. That was, I'm trying not to, to beat you means to lakers because the
thunder just that much better. It's not, we all thought this. But to watch the lakers have a meeting with the refs after losing by 18. And the thunder just standing there laughing and giggling. That's a tough look. Like, that's a tough look. I don't know what was said. I don't know if there's real gripes. But it's just a bad look to have one team being like something's not fair. And the other team just laughing and cackling and having a great time. Yeah, it's like the trials over the judge
banged the gavel. The, uh, the prosecuting attorney is out on the, the steps to the courthouse to the press conference. And then your attorney's going up to the judge to be like, hey, can we just talk about one thing before we, before we call it a full day? Yeah, like it's not, it's not good. Um, by the way,
“shot our guy Taylor Heinecki credible career. Yeah, big time. Sad to see him go. Uh, 33. I think he's only”
33 right now. So I thought he would have a couple more years and I'm would have liked to see him play last year. But I did feel like when the, when the colds decided to go with with Philip Rivers instead of Taylor Heinecki, that seemed like the writing was on the wall for him. Yeah. Yeah.
But he was a great, great player. We'll always have that cover against Tom Brady and the playoffs.
Yep. Um, and that dive use. I think he's one of the best dive for the pie long guys that I've ever seen in my life. Um, and I, I know that he's one of the best point down field while he's running around scrambling and then he does something really awesome or really stupid, but something really exciting. Yeah. Yeah. I also have those shoes from Taylor Heinecki PFT. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. I think about Taylor Heinecki every time I put those shoes on really. Yeah.
“That's a lot of things. Well, Taylor Heinecki and I got them from PFT after the after Taylor Heinecki”
beat the Eagles in a regular season game. That was a great loss. That was a great loss. That was a greatest loss of my time here at PMT. I got a great bearish sneakers out of it. That's right. That was a loss that got Doug Peterson fired. That was a loss that got Ron Rivera into the playoffs
at at seven and nine. Wouldn't incredible loss that was for everybody for everyone. How
about the football game? I guess I can tell this Taylor Heinecki story now, now that he's he's an artist retirement, but when he was about to be a free agent, I told him I was like straight up and like I hope that you just get a lot of money because you were back up. You were living on your couch in 2020 or your sister's couch when Ron Rivera called you to see if you could step in and playoff game. I want you to cash in. So whatever city, I'm not going to be like mad at
“you for not taking a home town discount, whatever. Do you do what you have to do? Go get paid.”
And he was like, I appreciate that man. I was like, so are there any cities we start taping a show called Spinning at the Super Bowl where we were just playing catch throwing it back and forth. Swing in it. Swing in it. Swing in it. Sorry. Swing in it. And one of my questions was like, is there any place that you don't want to go? And he starts throwing the pass back and he goes, yeah, my agent's probably going to kill me
for saying any city, but yeah, I don't really want to go to Atlanta. And I was like, oh, why is that? He's like, I got so much family there. I would like to kind of spread my wings, but yeah, I don't want to be a Falcon. I'm like, cool. All right, sweet. So we go back in the Super Bowl. We're about to put that episode out. Honestly, I think we're two hours away from putting it out. And it gets announced that he had signed with the Atlanta Falcons because we're offering the most
money. So I texted him, I'm like, hey, man, and he goes, hey, I was just about to text you. Can you cut that part out about you saying I don't want to play for the foul? I was like, yeah, I got you. Oh, we should imagine if you'd put it out. It's like, if you put it out like an hour before, down here. Yeah, it almost happened. Yeah. But yeah, great career for him. Okay. Let's get back in studio all of us together. We've got more playoffs to talk about. We've got Charles
Parkley versus Dreyman, boat pictures, trace McGrady Firefest. We're back in studio. Wait, before we go back to studio, we should send a lottery one more time. Why? Lottery Sunday night. I want to do one more one more sem. Oh, I like it. Lottery Paul. No, no NBA lottery. Yeah. I've got to pull it up right here. You want me to it? I got it. Simminate Washington number one. There you go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's get number two.
That's pretty good. I just I SIMED it four times. You you were one two and then five. And that five would be kind of a kind of a nightmare. You five. No, if there's so many good players, this draft is going to be awesome because there's you can you least know all the names.
I got to get top four.
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just yeah you get your appendix out um ankle although the appendix was like that was a loser
“appendix yeah i think getting the appendix out is what helped tell them to be a winner um but yeah”
then Mitchell Robinson also out illness so it's like we go into this game and like okay it's just gonna be shorter guys running around and the six years looks good they they were tough yeah and then it's just another four they ran out again yeah i guess how do you know that enough guys tire spacer tire spaxy really like he had to do so much and he truly ran out of gas like he played he almost played fifty minutes yeah played his dick off uh big cat do you think that the
six is better without your own bead hmm for three quarters yeah it says so for three quarters yes and they they honestly like joe on bead when he was great in the last series i feel like he just left it all out on the court i i i hope he can come back i hope that his right side uh recovers entirely by the time they get back to filly but this is gonna be one of the games that the six was a look and be like we we probably should have won that we could have stolen
we could have stolen that we could have won that could have it's not the one yeah you know what hand up i think max is right i think it's a white they they could have won that one the could have won that if they look back on it's like if we had that one which we could have different series i do i i think they need a hot take they need joe on bead if they want to be competitive in this series because listen i'm a drum and guy there's that one moment where he
got put on skates by jillin bronzine it look like it looked like one of us guarding he hit he jillin bronzine didn't really do that many moves he just kind of shifted yeah and and drummer's like i'm fucked because it was in space and then Adam Bona is just addicted to fouling
“he just loves to foul he see here's the thing like we have we have adembona and barlow who can”
are good defensively in this series because they're athletic like little bit under size guys that can run with with the nicks but they're both such a negative on offense that you're just playing five on four yeah like barlow had a couple good plays on offense but then there were times in the fourth quarter where you you're asking him to hold the ball for way too long and it's like this guy should not be put in this situation with with the game on the line and he threw it away
in like a really crucial spot he's just he's just not in a fourth quarter offensive player
and we were asking him to be that right and you and you it was like set up perfectly because jillin bronzine was not making every shot he wasn't like the jillin bronzine oh shit he's going to get the easiest thirty five ever and you had you know the the first half it was like they kind of punch the nicks in the mouth like hey we're gonna actually play here there was I think I saw the stat there were twenty five lead changes which was the most in a playoff games since games
seven of spurs clippers first round in May of 2015 since 11 years it was a really competitive awesome game ran out of gas just ran out of gas I mean you're talking about being a drumming guy drumming guy is head of tough night last night yeah tough night listen the you got to take the highs in the lows if you're if you're if you're I'm I'm probably going on like day 15 drumming guy hmm if you're day 15 drumming guy which is being a day one drumming guy yeah exact same thing yeah
But I mean I think there's just something about to know I need your comment I...
explicit comment about one thing that drumming did okay but before you did say ask me this question I now realizing I might have some anti-join beat bias because I'm just doing the exact same thing I did with people Paul with drumming where it's like not very good yeah but other other big guy he's fucking good yeah the most popular guy in town is a backup is a backup center for the
“I just get obsessed with the other big guy and now that now that you mentioned it I think I may have”
done the exact same thing with gardener mint shoe and Tanner McKee on the Eagles yeah it's just whatever to piss me off yeah that is wise and Joe Milton on the Cowboy yeah yeah that's actually did have a moment on on Saturday where I can't remember if it was uh your brother Dan or Nick I said drumming to him and he was like stop hey hey hey they listen and they're like don't do this drumming they do not do listen I I've been a drumming supporter you know me though I am a
I'm a jol and b guy yeah I always have day one this this year I said at the start like this
Joel's year if he's gonna get it done a lot of pressure on the set so legacy defining year legacy defining year I think that what we're looking at right now is the the sixers are dealing with a little bit of a super bowl hangover from beating the Celtics and round one it's hard to it's hard to come back and play a series after you change your legacy it really is and so he's got it like a established I didn't know though I said he was in the process of changing his leg trust the process
what you're doing right now big cat you're looking at the results you love the legacy I care about the process of the legacy as a jol and big big big question for all the drum and
“defenders out there me would you guys have like a fan group name I think we're I think we're the the”
drum circle okay the drum circle do you have the only podcast that still that talks about Andre drum let's it because we have to keep it to the statue and and what I'm about to ask is actually very important this is you everyone thinks like oh yeah being the number of sports podcast football cowboys lakeers no no you come to this show you're gonna get a lot of live golf you're gonna get a lot of Andre drum and you're gonna maybe get a little bit of jizzing in the grand canyon
mmm that's just fun is a ton of it okay so with drum and yeah last night just stand I feel yeah just yeah yeah yeah please address the address the bench last night drum and had a bad look the ball got stuck on top of the basket they handed him the mop yeah he tried to poke it out about six times in a row the crowd started booing him and he got nervous couldn't handle it catwalks right over to him cat takes the mop out of his hands I've seen
people say that he got mobbed and then cat the first boop from cat sends the ball flying
extracts it nice and clean it was a tough look for drum and like that's you can't let your opponent mentally alpha you at that point I don't think that there was any stopping cat from what he was
“about to do to drum okay if you want to sit here and say that Carl Anthony towns has a softer”
touch with the mop and booping balls mmm I can't argue with you I'm not gonna argue with you what I would argue is the game was being played in New York Madison Square Garden that is not drum is job maybe gets let's get some fucking security james don't you have the CIA working for you let's get someone out there who can actually get this ball drum it Andre Drummond should not be asked to do that if the game was being played in Philadelphia I would totally understand it so
I think we should be celebrating Andre Drummond for trying to help in a situation where it was not his responsibility whatsoever and if you notice he definitely loosened that ball up he definitely loosened that it was like opening up a pickle jar someone loosened it up for you or you can't get it open and you're just like well I loosened it that's what happened so he's saying that and Carl Anthony towns has a softer touch with the mop he does he has a better grip on the
hemography mopped him but he had a better grip on the handle yes he was going after the two hands after the ball correct within separate it so wait can you say though that Drummond should not have even stepped up to offer like I tried but he tried to big dick him and he was like oh he's like give me the mop I'll get daddy get it down if you notice if you know Andre Drummond you know
that he will always help you know when the situation arises and we're in a crisis Andre Drummond
is he's like Batman actually I think he actually might be Batman okay we've got about 10 minutes now we haven't talked to either Nick's fans in the room Batman and Catwoman yeah Connor Zach Zach is in Hank seat I mean that was a that was a game that you got to feel good about because you shouldn't have one except for OG's injury what's what's the status of the OG's injury and then let's talk in there's no status update as of yet it looked like a hamstring or a dead leg hopefully
A low grade hamstring okay so that's those are two very different definitely ...
what do you talk about what yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're saying
what you're saying what you'd rather have but what you'd rather have a bruised leg or would you rather have the muscle fall apart would you would you rather have your leg fall asleep because you would have been sitting too long or would you rather have a great three stair on your hamstring yeah I fucked up I'd rather rather Charlie worked okay a leg sticker yeah you just got a little leg sticker now how did how did it happen to he hit on the muscle or did he
extend uh there's a video out there looks like he just stepped okay that's not good so David Chow said right hamstring string this is significant for that for this series because OG's been
insanely good throw up and sometimes second option yeah but a great third option and great
defensively just I mean Paul George has been kind of in hell where it's just this is what the next the next do have this when they have the wing defense to go up against anyone so what if OG's out let's say for two games how are we feeling uh they should be able to uh I'm still feeling fine okay the six years are just playing too many minutes okay the next do have other guys but OG if it's a great too the playoffs are over oh if it's a great too the playoffs are over what is that you agree
uh yeah I mean he stepped up in a big way so play really aggressive so like uh I lost OG would be big for uh will be big in the corner of people who don't want to see the next succeed
right but I mean I next people anti next guys love to see this it would also open up
opportunity for somebody else yes but he he he he's one of the best two way players in the NBA and he he covers the best guy on every single team so it's playoffs over essentially but hopefully just try the horse now so you're saying that if you can't play though like your playoffs over obviously but like do you also mean like the series over like the sixers will beat
“the next if OG can't play no I think I think they should be able to win two out of five okay”
but the last time so two years ago against the Pacers he tore his hamstring in game two they went up to oh and they ended up losing that series yeah okay but this is different this did so much different he he couldn't even walk on that one okay so now will it be a home game when you go to Philadelphia yes okay Friday Sunday really fucked us too why because they don't have to work the next fan it's a lot easier to come it's a lot easier to travel to Philly from New York
on a Friday Sunday then it is if you're playing Tuesday Thursday okay yeah but that also means like people from Philadelphia would be also a lot easier to go to work but it's a lot easier for them on Tuesday Thursday to go to the so the we can fuck you the whole schedule it was a schedule lost yeah schedule lost everything it was it was it was Nick schedule the NBA fucked you guys by scheduling games in and around a weekend and also scheduling you every other day also correct we
could have used one we could have used one two day break but you did get I said you after game one
“I was like I think you should just sit and beat for game two I was completely fine with him like”
and be sitting that get him some rest having bb monster game three and four then you got a three game series and you guys still one yeah got yeah I mean it's can't can't give up home court are you were you upset when you found out that and beat was out or were you thinking to yourself no I said I went on to let's just let's think about Philly no I was thinking oh one one let's fight let's see what can can happen tonight and then like try and get him as arrested as as he can
because if he just kept playing every other game every other day every other day he was going to be playing the whole series at 65% if you give him a day off maybe he can get himself up to 80% and then you got a chance what's the so Max we're obviously on this show we're big believers in like like you celebrating on Saturday I thought that was great that's with your brothers you have to sports are too it's too difficult to win a championship to not celebrate the ride
“and celebrate every little moment along the way that's why we watch sports you have to you can't”
be like winning a big game seven and you're like well we haven't won the championship so we're not going to celebrate anything so like I'm in for all of that what's the series score that you'd be like fuck that really like that really changed how I'm going to look back I'm going to put it this way I'm going to put it this way how did it feel when you beat the Packers around what that's what I'm saying I agree with you beating your rivals agree matters
when you get smoked by a team time and time again agreed and then you go down three one of your rivals and it looks like totally going to get us again and then you come back and like
That matters that matters to a fan base I agree what I'm asking you though li...
exact same analogy if the bears had then gone out and gotten like 30 piece by the Rams the next week
it would have it would have taken away the feeling I had after the bears beat the Packers but it definitely would have made me look at the season a little bit differently where it's like shit like that was that really sucked out bad we went out yeah I mean it it was not for sure it was one you got to win a couple games here I would like to I mean I want to win the series I want to win like then you're just then you're just playing semantics either win the series you don't win the
series right you know I that's good in a perfect world I would I would I would like to win in seven games I would like to live in win in six games actually no I perfect what I like to win in six that be awesome to win in seven games what a game that would be but like at least last last I was a
“competitive game I wanted to be a competitive series I think the series is not like I don't”
especially with the O.G. injury I think this is going to be a competitive series yeah the line for
for game three is one and a half okay yeah Max he's got to go out there he's got to be Superman but he can no I think it'll be back and Max he won't have to play 47 minutes like that it was it was it was so clear what he just lost his legs it was like he's he was like he's he's played the most minutes in the right he played the most minutes in the league in the regular season and then we're coming we came off game seven and right as a loss yeah and that no but it's just
it was so obvious what happened to him his burst looked less he was settling for shots that he wouldn't normally settle for and he just wasn't making his jumpshots because he was gasped he's scheduled you guys on a Wednesday when you can make the trip up yet no it wouldn't been great if really people have to work well yeah really people have to work you know you're
“people don't yeah I mean the showmark market closes at what 2pm show me doesn't have”
shit going on show me works like one month out of the year he's like okay I did my movie now I can just watch sports full-time is it show me sitting courtside I'm gonna be he he can not be sitting courtside and Phil did you see the PDA after the game showman was it Kylie Kendall Kylie Kylie Kylie there's something about PDA where it really you know I think if you ask a hundred people on the street like what do you where your thoughts on PDA everyone's like
ill when attractive people do it's like yeah I mean the cool thing yeah like it's even when you think of bad PDA it's just gross people in a bar like being fat and gross in like hot dog breath making out when Kylie Jenner and and Shalemay are are sucking faces courtside I'm cool without I like all of it give me all the PDA you love all the PDA I just love love it got like me yeah look at I wanted a little more he definitely would not have done that if they have lost
yeah that's that's like I'm so happy about a win I'll yeah we're gonna start smooching yeah we'll do a little smooching soon after game one he was just playing pickup I know yeah like
“yeah that's what and he's what being so famous that you can just literally do whatever you want”
like at your fate for your fate I can't imagine that's got to be shows show max you went to the White House with the Eagles just just reminder and you're getting a 99 meatballs jersey from big Dom the meatball the meatballs jersey that is confirmed gonna happen okay so memes Zach you guys feel good even with OG hurt yeah I feel good I think we're gonna get another blowout coming up oh these games but the rest will be competitive and then you just gotta figure out a way
to win one of those games the way you did to that yes you just got steal one yes the spurs maybe people prematurely wrote off the spurs they fucking killed the timber rolls this was partially the spurs are a really good team and I expected this I think we said it on Monday Monday show like they're not or Wednesday show they're not gonna miss the shots that they missed on game one the way they missed and partially it's just the NBA like when you when a road
team goes out wins game one you just kind of expect that the home team's gonna be able to have that you know extra gear to kick their ass and the Tim rolls Tim rolls couldn't shoot last night and you could just see it the spurs were ready to go they're like hey we're not we're not gonna lay down we're we're the favorites in this series for a reason and we're gonna win this game and they did it wasn't a it wasn't a must win for the spurs it was a can't live the very definition
of a can't lose going down oh one at home that second game that is that is if you looked it up
in the dictionary can't lose it's game to at home and the Tim rolls had the very definition of a can and they had the very definition of night off yeah like totally can lose this game so problem we don't really care like this is gonna suck for a little bit but like nobody really try too hard I am worried about Anthony Edwards because it does you can just see that he just doesn't have the same it's just the same person that he has because of the big the the raid spray that they
Had in the crowd you see that's somebody yes instead of holding up like the o...
had just a giant can of rage I like that all I like that a lot for the wolves we also have the Pups we had a pop came the reports are the pop helped with film review between game one and two which is that is a secret weapon that the spurs have that in most of which being like hey guys here's what you got to do that and also they invented a new kind of three last night that that might be the coolest play that I've seen all year oh yeah the no dip in the air in the air you catch the ball
he had already started his jump who's definitely vastly yeah when the ball got passed out to him
he was in midair did not caught the shot just let it rip from like his chin level I've never
I don't think I've ever seen that in a game in quite that fashion it was even cooler that the
“the shot clock was it was dying so I think there was like maybe a second left on so he knew”
he had to get up in the air to shoot the three caught it and now it was maybe the first three point alley you that I've ever seen it was so sick I mean I know dip three is sick to begin with because like how the fuck are you so good that I mean I know how they're so good but it's still just a crazy thing to watch when a guy can catch the ball and just go straight up for three but in the air too very cool but yeah total blowout the spurs are really really good
I think the series is gonna be competitive I believe the spurs have struggled in Minnesota recently so that that's something to watch where it's like hey they're going yeah uh last seven they haven't won in their last seven games in Minnesota I think they're going to get won up in many yeah I think the series is going to gonna go seven I got spurs in seven seven I think it's going to go six I got spurs in six yeah I mean there's really nothing else to say is that uh like the
the quotes afterwards Chris Finch said I told him we got punched and then her punked and then Anthony Edwards said we got we got blowout my mom and he used to tell me hard head make a soft ass
“sure make a soft ass yeah that's true that's what I've always said yeah hard head make a soft”
I think they said that I heard that first from Joey and Pat hmm yeah show our guys little stay woke we'll stay woke so I assume you guys saw the Dreyman Charles Barkley clip I did
I Dreyman Green and Charles Barkley those two guys are they they're always kind of towing the line
of professional wrestling kind of whatever you know there's there's some there's smart they're very sparking I feel like Dreyman Green might have just set it up for everyone to remind the world how good Charles Barkley was because that's the effect that it says it's had the exact effect of hey Dreyman Charles Barkley on the Houston Rockets was actually fucking good and Charles Barkley won an MVP Charles Barkley scored 40 points against the the Jordan bulls and the playout like in the finals
Charles Barkley was a really good player so thanks for trying to make that point but you're wrong I think maybe Dreyman did a masala I think the and I might be too much on my I think the unintended outcome is that he did him an awesome song incredibly it's like yeah Charles Barkley average I think it was like 19 and 10 in the year that he was talking about on the rockets like Dreyman would love to average that yeah he would kill to average and if you put but I put Charles Barkley on the
warriors they would they would they'd probably win by more and that's not no Fence Dreyman Dreyman's a Hallfame defender but Charles Barkley was in elite offensive player in elite rebounder yeah his defense wasn't Dreyman's but I don't know how you would guard if you just if you just drew Charles into that team okay I have a theory about this because I I like your stay welcome it
“I don't think that that's why they had it planned yeah I think Dreyman is just I doing like the”
the plumbers and you know like basically anyone in this NBA says that the NBA from 20 years
goes so so my theory on what happened is that they brought Dreyman out there he had this whole thing lined up to say he had his whole take ready to go and then they're like oh yeah you're actually going to leave the set and Dreyman was like fuck I was going to use Shack as my example like because he was the big cactus yeah the bigger a startled yeah when he was a Cavalier like if he had made this exact same point if Shack was right next to him about Shack everybody like yeah
great point Dreyman on great point Charles would have jumped that he made fun of Shack for you know the the years that he had at the very very end but then Shack stands up he's like I'm going to go use a bathroom and then Dreyman was like oh fuck that's my analogy I guess I got to go get his Charles when he was on the rock it's I think he had maybe did a last minute switch it was great it ended up being great for Charles but it also the way that Charles reacted and the rest of the
group up there it may be think they don't really love Dreyman that much because oh you think because nobody I think Dreyman wanted to people to get like riled up by it and argue with him and nobody really said anything they just kind of moved on and that left it hang like when you have a really
Really bad take that just hangs out there that no one even addresses that's t...
gets I am happy that this happened though because Charles Barkley and we love Charles Barkley we you know having him on last year was one of my favorite interviews we ever done hopefully we could do it again because he's that type of guy he suffers from the fact that he does he is such a funny guy gregarious guy that he's basically spent the last 20 years
being the butt of everyone's joke of like never want to title yeah that it erases in people's
minds just how good of a basketball player he was and so for Dreyman to do this the whole world's like hold on a second yeah wait a second this guy was really good at basketball what the fuck are we talking about and isn't it Charles Barkley's whole thing like there are bus drivers and their passengers and Dreyman again we like Dreyman to Hallfam player for rings he's never been the bus driver Charles Barkley was the bus driver you know he we he didn't
want to title but he drove the bus so I don't know it's it's funny because it was a very awkward moment and Dreyman's also beefing with it awesome rivers who awesome rivers I don't really know where the SPF came from awesome rivers video was that was a weird one where he was like hey
Dreyman just so we can get the straight I was way better than you in high school I was way better
than you in college yeah you had a way better NBA career but don't you forget so I think I
“know where to came from I think we I hold on then the apart is the important one I think Dreyman”
said that he was as good as rivers in high school okay I think he started it and then rivers if I remember he they met it might have gone to the same school or the same district rivers was like one of the I think he was the like one of the best players in high school at the time yeah so they played in the same area anyways rivers average 28 points of game high school Dreyman average I think 20 in high school so rivers had to remind him about that because like it doesn't matter how big you get
you still think back to when you guys were like 17 years old yeah I was dude I was way better than
you were seven to me but just imagine it's like like you know doing serious face video yeah and
saying hey just so we're clear man there was before we both grew into our bodies I was significantly better than you oh dude in in eighth grade I was on the like the the local like not we didn't have a you at the time but like I got like a full sweatsuit on the team I was on I was cooking fools and then everybody grew and I did I literally did not grow in instance eighth grade but yeah I got like me you remind me of eighth grade I'll go back
I'll remind you some facts yeah now actually you know what I'm gonna say it's right now
“also rivers if you want to get in an argument here I'll just throw this out there I would have”
fucked you up in 1995 I would have I would was he he was uh three yes ten I would have fucked you up dude I would have fucked you up when I want come get some that's just a fact that's a fact if we want to go back all the way 995 problem I'll double down I'll say when when he was 10 I would have fucked him up I don't I will not say that yeah absolutely not yes it's the way nope no a 17 year old me verse a 10 year old loss of rivers I'm pretty sure I'm sorry yep no I'm fucked him up no I'm sorry
I would fuck like right now I would beat the fuck out of a 10 year old loss of rivers 17 still not better to do that still I could not say that you could barely walk I'm right that I'm way stronger now than I was when I was I would not I will not say that I can beat up any 10 year old in the world you don't think he blows by you no we're talking about basketball I'm trying to have physical vibes oh yeah I don't have a 10 year old dream on he cook me yeah yeah
10 year old dream on will kick your ass yeah I'm maybe yeah definitely definitely but luckily we don't have to deal with anymore but in the in in that same segment do you remember when
“I think it was Phil Sims I was get it mixed up if it was Phil Sims or Boomer or Boomer but I think”
it was Phil Sims on CBS when he was like you know the goal is not to be like damn marino and in your career it was super bowl when they were talking about Peyton Manning yeah damn marino was right next to him at the desk and was like dude what the hell yeah like why are you saying that about me the fact that no that Charles didn't even have to react to it I know when Dreimon was like the goal is to not become like Charles as a rocket it's because you know
that that does impact damn marino he thinks about it a lot but that was but yeah I don't even think about this at all so I'm not gonna react and it was just the perfect way for Charles to play it because him not reacting brought everyone to his defense yeah if he got into an argument Dreimon in that moment it might have played out a little different where they're like but that non-reaction yeah I mean Dreimon's getting bodied now which at the end of the day Dreimon
probably loves because he loves anyone talking about him but yeah it also is very funny to to have that entire conversation well like Dreimon you're on the set because your team
Lot your team didn't even make the play out yeah like what are we doing right...
talking about right this second uh Aaron Rogers is he going to be a stealer yeah I think he's easy to set tonight yeah he's he's visiting in town tonight he's got a whole new respiratory infection to to study and educate people about so if you think that he was going to dip out of the public eye when we had something like this coming back you thought very wrong do we have to worry about this antenna what is it hanta hanta hanta hanta yeah hintai I really that's something else
yeah anti virus is it a hentai virus we're all for all of our private parts could get uh blurred out that would that would be tough yeah is that what hintai what is hint what is hint I think that's like when they can type horn and pivot to like cartoons so what's the difference
between hintai and manga manga is just like a comic book they read backwards I always forget that
I have safe search off on my computer I just search hintai porn and then next down you type in type porn he's going to love that yeah do we have we I've read a thread today I'm just going to go off this and I don't want to do the same thing that we did with covid where we poo pooed it
“it's too deadly mm it's too deadly of a disease it'll burn itself out that's what I read too yeah”
it's like it is it's literally too like the the death rate for this disease is like 50% and so if you can't if you can't survive you can't spread it the only problem because I was saying the same thing big cat I've been spreading that information to as many people because I'm trying to spread positivity yeah in this climate because we see all over the place
we're back to doing the fear porn yeah we did in 2020 before this happened did you guys see the one
guy the tweet from three years ago yeah I didn't see that one suck I'm trying I'm trying spread positivity so I'm educating people about that same thing I did have people tell me that the incubation period can be like a month so you might not know that you have it for a month okay and then once you get sick then you die just stay away from wrap poop and mice poop right that's just yeah that's good practice I know so we're gonna do and don't fly on an
airplane with anybody that is really really sick if you're going like it on a cross country flight I hope you don't have a seat that's directly next to a man that sneezing on you and coughing on you for the entire flight to the point where you're trying to climb out of the airplane window
“that's also really good you should not do that yes I was reading what did you say”
don't do what you did you're good max you're good should I read
I was like no reading try reading yeah try reading yeah you go back to reading yeah you're gonna just do some reading ah hockey I think we should have biz on on Sunday but we have the savers the buffalo crowd is so electric that series could be awesome with those two crew fanbases and I saw somebody make a great point though that listen Montreal they they can travel on the road to buffalo to max is whole like Nick's scheduling thing
Montreal fans can travel to buffalo a lot of buffalo fans can't go to Canada because if you have a DUI you can't cross the border yeah so it's a problem just something to think about keeping out the rautiest of the route yeah and the ducks the ducks even up the series against the nights I really wish the ducks would go back to their old jerseys the you know like the traffic cones now I hate them I absolutely hate them what's there is it because they're an orange county
is that why they wear orange I don't know it's just I don't like you know I'm like not I'm not rooting for the ducks I don't have a team in this but I you know obviously joke one though
“I think he's an incredible coach so and I I am looking forward to deeper he gets to be like yeah”
he's gonna just boxing people up a series go deeper and deeper because he's that good of a coach but yeah I just I wish they had the I wish they had the I wish they had the mighty ducks uniforms I really did I miss him too and also I'm rooting for the nights because his business told us to or maybe his hands told us put a future on him what is the let me look at right now because it feels like the avalanche are gonna win it all they're up to nothing that's series
been insane with the goals that the game on Sunday night was nuts what is it right now if we did and I've done this before and it was stupid it didn't work if we did a yet no duh the best teams win the titles parlay thunder oh it's only plus 309 thunder an avalanche that is not enough that's not great that is not great that's not great oh I had it before we get started with a trace of a gritty I had a couple other things
I wanted to throw out there one golden tempo not running the pre-test sucks yeah it's just where we're at it's load management yeah we're doing load management for horses right now and I understand it there's really no financial incentive besides like obviously winning the race would be great but right now golden tempo has got it made for the rest of their life that that horse is gonna be fine it's gonna make a lot of money as Kentucky Derby winner
and there's really there's limited upside to running in this race yeah I got it and as a guy from the DC area like the prickness is it's a right of passage for the spring so like
People are still gonna go have a great time at the race but it's absolutely l...
of all national juice because this horse isn't racing it's oralist it is it's completely
oralist now and it fucking sucks because I don't know it was I love I love the triple crown I wanted to see I want to see someone compete for the triple crown and maybe we're getting soft as a podcast but back in 2016 we would have called this horse a fat bitch for not racing in the precness for saying like there's a lot of working class horses that are gonna be taking their families to watch you race yeah and you're just too big of a superstar now that
you're you're abandoning them but I guess that's a sad state of affairs and sports where now we're like it's it's the horse empowerment yeah and so we have no choice but to support them uh and then so we're taping this portion of show in the morning but the cubs are just the most exciting and best team in baseball it's insane they've walked off again they they they had to play the reds for the series finale three straight walkoffs
to the point where on Wednesday night we were up four two in the ninth we give up four runs and I actually said I know the people I won't believe so I said to myself it's like all right whatever we're just walking off again and then pikro Armstrong hits a it's a two run Homer in the bottom of the ninth my go bush walks gets a walk to walk in the winning run three straight walk
“off so they have not they've lost uh or they've won fourteen I think fifteen games in a row at”
rigley um it's crazy they're just the hottest team in baseball and while this is all happening we just keep getting injuries to our pitching staff Matthew Boyd got uh injured his knee playing with his kids he yeah he reached down to pick his kid up and he felt something and then he called the team and it was okay I think I'm fucked it's torn miniscus I think it might like at this point maybe it's just every pitcher injury just fuels the cubs to be that much better because it's just
keeps happening where it's like the guy gets injured and then the cubs have another improbable win and they just keep staying hot and so much fun to watch and the whole lineup is just awesome and it's just yeah it's been a lot of fun it's a lot of fun you think a uh what's a better way to end a game a walkoff walk or a walkoff hit by pitch walkoff ABS walk walkoff ABS because you get the double pop so he calls strike three and everyone's like no yeah and then they're like wait he's touching his head
yep and then you see it on the screen yep and the place was fucking nuts yep yeah I think you're right for the crowd walkoff ABS walk would be the pinnacle I think for the batter a walkoff
hit by pitch where you make that split second decision to wear one instead of getting out of the way
“mm-hmm that's got to be in incredible moment yeah like you should bat flip that so the um and”
at this long season so it's not like you know there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs it's just right now the cubs are playing so much like the baseball is so much fun and there's so much fun to watch and mobolars is a true stud remember remember I you asked me when we went to the game three weeks ago you're like put me on to someone I was like dude mobolars maybe a future he's a mobolars the guy but uh they're 20 they had a 20 game stretch which I think goes I think it was
as of Tuesday uh where they had 17 wins they went 17 and three 10 comeback wins nine wins after allowing the first run six one run wins four walkoffs four wins after trailing in the eighth or later three extra inning wins it's been awesome what are you guys talking about in the boot there have you guys snacks is reading he's reading fillies are bad yeah firing your manager it just fires up a club yeah they've just I think they've lost one game since they fired their manager
we're we're like a two or three games swing from three teams at the bottom of the uh American League West to getting the ass hat division hmm we've got the ass at the start of it and then we just need the the Astro is to win like a couple more games and then we need the uh the Rangers I think to lose like two games well there's and then then it's gonna read I have they have the same records as the NL's I know what what it's crazy but they say exactly what you're saying right now
no it's back to back to back then oh yeah got it yeah actual spelling but it is crazy because the al has three teams over five hundred in the entire uh division or uh league and the NL
“central has every team over five times yeah it is it is a crazy crazy division that's why”
like three games you guys one three and a row gets the reds right uh yeah in the I again were were taping this before the uh finale of the series today but still like three and a row against the
reds it is the difference between first and last in the video yeah it's been not it's been very
fun to watch it's I do drag minutes just the man just having him there it's just everything just say his back and he's awesome the fuck so much fun oh I had one last thing before we do trace my gritty and this is gonna be this is a hot take so I want you guys to be prepared for this hot take I'm starting to think that Mike Raeble and Diana receive might have been having an affair
I'm not all the way there I'm starting to think that might be happening you g...
that's the gold standard the store will never just like oh dude I never it's like there's a
“tweet for everything there's there's a there's a Mike Raeble and Diana recini date for every”
every moment in the last six years yeah there's what sucks too is there's a lot of stuff that like anything now will be used as evidence but like a private boat the pieces fall together yeah a signature is our top like it's yeah that was the moment that was the moment where I was like they might be fucking you never been on a boat with your boys yeah it's true that's a good boy exact little boy strip on the boat yeah one V1 boat sure yeah I shouldn't see he's in the
wrong with that what do you call a pvp pvp yeah it's a pvp boat no no that'll be that'll be pvp co-op yeah if you're like if you're like fishing uh do us uh do us campaign okay do us campaign yeah yeah you're trying to get they might have been going fishing it's also I thought that very funny that it came two days after the gone fishing graphic with them at the front of the boat yeah that's that's tough yeah I'm just listen we're gonna monitor
the story because it's literally never gonna stop but I'm starting to get the feeling that they
might have been doing something more than just trading football talk maybe they did ask Drake may about a yesterday and he just said like I love my coach he's a good guy I mean what else he's supposed to say like if you ask Drake may that he has to say that well my coach great guy yeah man what do you think what do you put percentages at of him being the coach of the patriot I'd say close to a hundred I I still think it's coming it's getting less and less so
“I would say right now it's like 85 I think it's definitely less than a hundred I would I would put”
if you maybe like put my life online I'd say that he's gonna coach the patriots yeah I think the next part of this story is whenever Diana decides to tell her side and how bad that's gonna look for variable which I don't think Diana would do that to him like I don't think she's gonna go out there and try to like go score stir but that that's where the story is eventually going like we're not gonna get a conclusion until she speaks and says hey this is what I think that whatever the explanation
is her her being able to tell her story about it is going to provide context to a lot of other stuff and who knows what the context is gonna be but it's gonna I think it's going to be better than everyone just making up what they think the worst parts of this story are without her filling in the actual facts behind it would be funny if she just hit the girl strip button over and over like she's sitting on good morning America we have this boat trip of the two year girl strip
what about you guys in this bar in New York kissing girl strip it's just girl strip you can call anything a girl strip it's fact I took a girl strip early this morning there's a messy one right in the toilet just kind of flood this old girl trip what's your what was your question oh my question was if it was like more of a fishing charter or strawberries and champagne boat but I
“can kind of as clues leaves me to fishing charter fishing charter yeah I think they probably were”
it was probably like deadliest catch they were probably crab fishing um i see what that was yeah I don't want to want to let you anything crab fishing but that was just the first thing I thought of my head deadliest catch yeah I was deadliest catch so it was just swells overalls full gear yeah the yellow rain suits slipwood wet time yeah they were just they they probably even speak listen I just had to be moving stuff around on the boat I saw like a documentary about Marty Smith
going on to a boat with Nick Saben the other week on his lake and we don't talk about that it seems like a big double standard recobosco going on need oats is boat yeah we don't talk about that we actually do talk about that a lot wait okay so I'm happy I got that off my chest with story to monitor they could be fucking well how much longer until you think the next the next recini variable thing drops right it's like once a week it's it's until until people
stop clicking on it the the the thing bang they they click every time well and and the problem that they're going to run into now is that TMZ got body by the New York Post and now TMZ's trying to get their lick back so TMZ's on the case and they're like let's find everything leave ever done so that's a problem yeah we'll see see how it goes okay before we get to Tracy
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“trace McGradie one of I think everyone's favorite basketball players of all time seven time”
all star two time all mba first team all mba how many times seven times all mba
seven times all mba first team all mba over all star any day yes I like both yeah two time all mba first team three times second team two times thirteen that's pretty it's pretty damn good if they're to say walking bucket yeah two time mba scoring champ yeah yeah the list goes on and on and he has a new one on one league called one's basketball league the premier one on one basketball league in the world quit let's start with that so you were one of the best one on one
players ever and just you know a walking bucket what what's this league gonna be and what made you decide like hey we got to do this yeah somehow lighting and giving guys a platform that love this
“space of one on one basketball obviously I grew up playing one on one basketball and you have siblings”
or you had your friends when you were growing up you play one on one at something because you couldn't find nine other guys to go and play a full court pick-up game so you had to play 21 right in my day it was 21 every man for themselves but when you talk about building and creating a platform for me I looked back to how I got exposed and that was on the ABCD platform when I was coming out of high school son of a carrow had the best high school camp for all the Americans in high school
I was fortunate enough to to be entering in until that space which I was the last player to to be selected to this camp out of all the players that was there I was the last one selected because no one knew who I was so this platform gave me an opportunity to showcase my skills
ultimately leading me to beat a number one player in the country and then get in draft it
now night through abroad in the 97 draft so it was a platform so for guys out here I understand I grew up with these type of dudes that can play basketball at the highest level has a high have a high level of skills but just didn't get the opportunity to play professional basketball like myself I mean that's very challenging the hard thing to do and then a lot of these guys have skills and they go overseas but I created this for them guys right guys that something
along their journey happening where someone probably in their family passed away you had to step up and beat a man at a house or you know you just didn't make the right decisions along the way it's for these guys and I just I this space is growing rapidly if you sit on social media I mean everybody is talking about it you see the Michael these leaves the the land Stevenson's those guys going at it so for me it's just providing an opportunity for my guys but one last thing on this
the element that I love most about this is I create an ownership for guys that look like myself when you look around sports it's not a lot of guys that look like me have ownership and sports I'm one of the the blessed guys to have you know some ownership in the Buffalo bills
With this property I wanted to create that ownership and creating the battles...
teams but we have to start now with eight teams and then those respective cities I grabbed guys
“like New York you talk about jadicus Chicago one of my my brothers my big little brother I call”
him and Lorenz take the great actor john wall you know the great NBA player had a phenomenal career is the owners of of Raleigh Durham so for me that's the biggest component that I'm most proud of of creating those opportunities for those guys yeah that's very cool that that's awesome and I wanted to talk about that that camp because it is a great story so you're so you went to Sunny Vicarro's camp what was it after your junior year yeah so you're basically no one knows
who you are I mean obviously you're you're really good at high school basketball in a small town in Florida go to this camp you get number 175 the actual last person at the camp like on on your jersey
and then what 12 month 18 months later a deed is signed you for $12 million in your deer drafted
number nine overall in the NBA draft like how that that's such an incredible story when you're
“getting to the camp are do you realize like when you're walking in what's at stake and like what you”
could do or was it kind of like how I'm going to go play ball and see where this goes and then it went to an insane place it was a young kid from Florida that was you know fresh out of the conditions that I was living in I didn't have anything to lose I had everything to gain and I realized that and when I first got there I just kept hearing about Lamar Odom 16 point guard I'm like what that like that threw me for look like what the hell 16 point guard where I'm from you to tell this
guy on the team that made you the center at that time here that I was like oh I got to see this guy
and sure enough it was every bit of what everyone was saying because he was the first player that
I faced I was like oh this is a different level of competition that I haven't seen but being me being confident I knew what was that stake and the opportunity that was there I went forward and I came out of that camp highly respected highly known and you know a few weeks ago
“by my senior year of high school I'm the number one player in the country like that's how fast”
that happened over just a few months my life changed yeah was there one moment in that camp that you thought yourself I got it like mission accomplished that's why I'm here well the cherry on top for me when I solidify like oh yeah okay this did it it was the all-star game and I got a break coming down on the left side now in my mind I'm like I'm going to do a win-mails because I want to show out want to be a showman because you got all the college coaches you got NBA scouts in there
you got guys that I actually were watching at the collegiate level that I respected and admired their games sitting watch me you got Jay Z sitting course I like you have these dudes in the gym so for me it's put on the show man and I got opportunity to you know put on display I win-mails but in the middle of my win-mails I have somebody jump up with me in my chest while I'm going into my win-mails and I win-mails done the guy and it was one of the craziest things that happened
that weekend everybody ran on the court the kids that some of the the code it was like shut the gym death that was one of you know probably the the most iconic moment of ABCD campus at that time
yeah try to stop the win-mails like don't never stress out the win-mails don't you already learn
that yeah yeah so so this all happens to you and like I said you go you go 18 months later your your top 10 pick and you making a deities comes for $12 million what what like you leave the camp are you like all right this is this is now I mean you're laughing right now but it is crazy it's an awesome story because most guys you know either they were a top recruit for a really long time and everyone talked about them for a really long time or you'll see you know guys go
to college and then come into their own not hey a guy goes to a camp in between his junior and senior year and now he's the number one kid in the country which bad that's scouting by everyone else like where the fuck are the scouts in Florida but you so you then you then go to to high school your senior year in North Carolina was there a moment then in that year where you're like okay this is real like this is actually this is now happening everything is starting to get into place
where I'm gonna play in the NBA yeah shortly and so my senior year my coach was telling me all the scouts that were in the building yeah there is this guy and this guy's with this thing like he was pointing him out and let me know so for me it wasn't any pressure I was excited about the opportunity and I like to show out you know I mean so if I got some NBA scouts in the air and
I get winded at I'm showing out that night yeah yeah and I I was doing resear...
coming on and I heard you say this and I want you to tell your your thought process behind it because I love this story because we have you know different athletes on and different guys
and we always ask like hey when you get that first contract when you get that first big piece of
money like is there something you buy and a lot of people are very humble to either say no or you know bought by mama house or potter car when you got your $12 billion from a deetus is it true that you took out $500,000 cash just to see what it looked like absolutely I love that where did you put it well I had it in the bags I had it in the bags and then I put it on my bed and just was looking at it and I just jumped in it rolled just like super walk any snooker just jumping
in it just wide all in this money hey man if you know where I come from bro humble very humble beginnings and for for me to have to see that and have the the ability to touch that that was
everything that's incredible and by the way you did buy your your family you know stuff so that
that also happened but like that is the most relatable thing where where my most people like yeah if I had that money but the first thing I do I'd be Scrooge McDuck and just feel it out yeah I'd nervous where you like 18 oh kids decide to slow me and I was like you kidding me yeah were you nervous like leaving the bank with the cash in the bags like I make sure I had security with me I was I was going on that I wasn't nasty yeah yeah no that's that's got to be a great
moment though just like I would fall asleep in that in that pile of money just for one night one night stay on my cash that's all it's cool that you're doing this thing with with one on one
though because I feel like you were a guy that would get brought up when you're talking about like
the best one on one players of all time is there anybody that you played with in your era that you that you would say yeah that guy was actually better than me one on one I wouldn't say nobody you know how we work you know how brains work no but to say there are some guys that I highly respect on that level it's for sure Kobe Kevin Durant James Harden like these guys are one on one killers it's we have a lot of them in the league that are great one on one players because that's
“to me when you watch the game that's what it is nowadays it's pick up basketball there's highly”
there's not that many sets that these guys is not a highly sophisticated offense that they're running it's give it a ball create a match up let me go one on one and kill you yeah yeah I feel like you would be like in the definitely top three maybe number one in your era oh yeah oh today's game for sure yeah that actually brings up a good question and one on one what's the foul policy are we calling our own fouls there's a referee no there's referees okay but but but what what I do have
I have a challenge though you're so you're player captain in your GM they have one challenge if they see a foul that's not called they could call that challenge and because we have three referees two to three have to side with you to get it through yeah okay last time we had you on trees degree which was actually like a few years ago in our our studio in New York we talked about your pants your pants game because you we know you see me on NBC now I know credit to you credit to
you because I we love the fact that you know everyone talks about those draft picks the pictures from the draft and like the 90s late 90s really 2000s in the pants and the suits just absurd and then you just decided hey I'm just gonna keep wearing it all the way up until you know a few
“years ago it's like hey I'm I'm just doing the big pants can we get I think we need more big pants”
I mean we need to get him back in the mix now no more big pants come on we're we're Taylor we aren't NBC but just throw us throw us one big pants night like you what imagine if it was Chase McGrady's big pants night you know what that's good promo maybe one night we my my have to do that every every yeah every so maybe if it's like a double-header night and it's like the start to show with big pants then half time they're even bigger and then
by the end just like you can't even see you because the pants are so big you're on to something my guy my the credit you're on this just don't tell anybody before you do it because then everybody tunes in every night and they're like I wonder if tonight's big pants night hope that they catch that glimpse you know I I might have to look into that my guy
“I got I I actually loved to look I think it's like yeah why I don't like that you're getting”
Taylor was there a moment where you got where you like hey I'm done with this um I just wanted
To excitement it up for for NBC okay you know like it it's you know it's it's...
audience right I got to come come different differently against with the NBC audience so
“I you know I want to look presentable for them yeah yeah when we're talking about you you”
watching the modern day NBA you're saying that you know it's a lot guys hunting matchups and going one on one is there is there one guy or one team where you watch them play and you're like that is very fun brand of basketball to watch I love what they're doing well sitting to tell you a
place a great brand of basketball can't never leave out the Golden State Warriors and how they play
just fun free you know getting up and down a lot of movement but I got to be in that role that stuff is it and I can't be the one that's you know always setting the screen yeah yeah I got to be always shooting a ball yeah I know it's crazy shooting a ball but no it's like sitting totally a place a beautiful brand of basketball that's where they're in the position in that thing and right now yeah we're not so we we just did a live show in L.A. and we had a good friend Blake Griffin on
and we I like I wanted to discuss the NBA put the NBA plans have been great but can you make a case for anyone else besides okay see is it just I don't want to say it's inevitable but it
feels a little bit like those Warriors teams where it's like all right well I don't really know
how they're going to lose this because they're just so good defensively offensively they have the MVP so do you have a case for anyone else or is it hey they are this good no they're all that good but I do have a case for someone else just the case I don't know if my case will help them
“pull through but I think sitting Sonyo has the personnel they have the debt to match up with”
okay see it's just can your guys sustain that level of greatness for the amount of minutes that they're in because when you watch okay see there's really when their when their bench comes in again there's really not a huge drop off and it's anything they elevate because these guys are so good at what they do with their their craft. San Antonio has that same type of personnel but those guys are young okay see just has to experience going through you know the the rigors of the
playoffs one of the championships so they've gotten that over that hump where San Antonio is working that way there that's my case I just think you know having debt that can match up with okay see in terms of the skill setting in which they bring San Antonio has I just don't know if they can sustain that throughout a seven game series yeah I mean San Antonio Wemby's obviously just a total difference maker my my case against San Antonio and it might be stupid meatball I'm not a very
“smart guy but I really do think the NBA is the one league where you have to go through the wars”
to get over to the top of the mountain like you just it just there's they're very rarely a case of a
team that is this is their first time going into the playoffs that they're able to win the whole thing
even okay see had to lose before they can win and so that it feels like as good as San Antonio has been this year and unleashing Wemby and playing them all these minutes now you still got to go through it and you got to learn how to win these like really tight playoff series unless you're like a team like the 0708 Boston Celtics where they made the trade with those guys and they just came in it's just what everybody asked but all those all those guys separately had done it you know
and I mean where they had been through wars yeah they came together in one year and just you know put it together and just went crazy I mean they were so good defensively but I think that's where it really lies like defensively these teams are elite I can't say which one is it's better than other it's just the office event of having to score latent games can you execute when it matters the most in for me okay see has the proven one okay and share the most clutch guy in the in the
game today where San Antonio is still searching right they're searching and they end up in a match up in the Western Conference finals against okay see that's gonna be their learning curve and I'm sure okay see we'll probably pull that out but they need to go through that to be able to get over okay see for the following year because they didn't know what to expect yeah let's just say Oklahoma City makes it to finals and then you could take anybody from the
east I'm not saying like who you think will necessarily win the east although it might be the same answer but if you could take anybody from the east and say they probably have the best matchup against the thunder and the finals who would that be New York okay and that's probably the team that you would think is going to actually make it to the finals too yeah okay it's the next for me they're toughness you know they're grit and they have a guy that you know can match up with
SGA in terms of being able to score being a finisher being able to close the ...
just you know Matt Nifferson skills defensively you know I'm sure there he will be a guy that they're target a lot but I think in terms of their toughness how they play how they're built the dogs they have over there the skill set I think they can match up with them I'm not saying they can beat okay see but I think it'll be a good out of all the things I think that's a great match up do you think that SGA has a flopping problem I think SGA has manipulated the game
the same way James Harden manipulated the game as just what it is he's getting the calls as his
turn it works for yeah what are you going to do it works for that's kind of where we've always
landed where it's like do I like watching it know and but if you're able that's a NBA problem that's a referee problem like fix that it's not therefore that they have found a way to be more efficient
“than everyone else that's what I say I don't like it but if they're allowing it he shouldn't”
you keep doing it if they're allowing it right and it works in your benefit right right I feel about it yeah if somebody had told you well you were playing hey if you do this repeatedly the refs will give you that call every single time would you have done it if I'm getting calls why not I feel like every player in the NBA they're just like like all sitting on our couch we can be like
I would never do that if I was in the NBA yeah you probably would probably would because you
probably get League MVP you probably make hundreds of millions of dollars if I can get six free throws out of manipulation I'm doing that that's easy points yeah I don't lot of flop I don't know I would be horrible at that because I don't know how to flop but I will find other ways to get to the basket and I was taught look we all find ways to manipulate the game it's just the great players of one that gets called out at the level that SGA is that for me when we
in penalty I found the way to get to the free throw line I'm going to run through the lane hoping one of the big boys is sitting down there and I'm going to run into him because when I wrote it to him he's going to give me a check it's going to be a file there's a lot of ways to
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and now here's more tracing the grady uh you are mentor to jailing brown uh your friends with him close friends with him what's going on with him I haven't spoken to him okay I don't know I mean he's just he's doing what at least nowadays do they go to their uh their own platforms and they tell their side of the story mm-hmm I I don't have a problem with what he's doing I mean you know it's it's content right we love content yeah but do you think that's a like
because it was a little weird to go live 24 hours after losing games seven and say things like you know this is the best this is the best year my life when he when he's one of title two years ago do you think that he's it's sustainable for him in Boston or you think there might be something down the road where it's like hey these guys are gonna he wants to have his own team Jason Tatum has proven that it's his team kind of situation where it's gonna gonna end up being a split
“I don't know I remember having a conversation with him I think it was like 2019 when he came to the house”
and it was just a level of frustration on his part and in terms of you know where he was at
What he was thinking and I kind of you know had a a really good conversation ...
and ultimately lead them to him stand and went in the championship and went in finals MVP
“I don't know what he's thinking I honestly don't I haven't spoken to JB”
I just know you know having that's a JB of JT JB I know just having JT back and the way they play this year getting that second seed I this man to me Boston is still the great team I think and when I talk about his frustration or not his frustration but him being you know having this year as his best year I just for me I put it in my own context
right it's we lose our best player he's not gonna be with this year
everybody wrote us off right this is a throwaway season for the Boston Celtics no one is
counting on us well they end up having a phenomenal year J JB say all these JT James JB had a phenomenal year MVP candidate number two in the Eastern conference you know and I just felt like for him personally got to think he's he's been sacrifice in all these years being with JT rightfully so right so now he's in a different role he's in a role where he can show who he really is as a basketball player he has another level
that he's taken it to and his leadership I thought his leadership with this year was put on this play and he showed great leadership the guys play extremely hard for Joe Mozilla and JB been the leader so for me I understand the context if how I'm looking at it they had a good year with everybody right in them off now it looks bad because JT did come back and play like 20 games
“y'all were up 3-1 and that's why I look so bad but I understand the context in which I'm putting”
in that you go back to the beginning no one thought about us even making a playoff right now he gets to the playoffs and it's a 3-1 you know lead and we lose that now it looks bad that I go on my podcast or whatever and say this is the best year that you know I had with the boss and Celtics but if people just put it in context and go back and all the sacrifices that he had to do to win a championship now you want to role you could be the man right everyone wants
the opportunity to be the man at once one one time in their career he got that opportunity to issue yeah did a great job this year I was looking at a picture of you from a few months ago because I recently watched the movie Marty Supreme I saw it on the plane last week I didn't realize that
“you were in Marty Supreme that you were a Harlem Globetrotter and I saw a picture of you”
with Shaola May where you were in your Globetrotters warmups it looks like he's wearing pink silk pajamas I'm not I'm not sure what he's wearing but my question was did you have a chance to hoop with Shaola May because I saw a clip yesterday and he looked pretty good no I didn't get a chance man we were there it was late we were in Long Island it was a late shoot I actually had to end up I ended up leaving the shoot it was a couple scenes that I didn't make because I had to get out of there
I couldn't stay to like three or four o'clock in the morning that's when they were shoot you know hey man I got to go like I got some of these I got to do but it was good hanging out with him you know he was he was so nice and you know kind enough I told him my kids was a big friend of him and he was like yo call him right now so I called my kids they had no clue where I was at and who I was with and to answer their face time and see him on the phone like they just went bananas and lost it
but it was pretty cool man to be a part of their project yeah I don't know if you saw the clip of him it was after the next game the other day they just they just let him play ball on the court at MSG and he just cooked some guy he was saying he got swag bro yeah he got some major swag he's got a good shot too
during the first round of the playoffs was there any conversation had between you and your
Orlando magic being like hey just bring me in because you guys cannot make a basket and that's exactly what I can do because I I know look it's been a long time since you've been in the league but I actually think that you like the way that the magic we're shooting especially in game six and seven just throw team out out there you can't it can't be worse than what happened man that that broke my heart bro because it just brought back memories when I was up three
Won against Detroit oh my gosh man yeah but I listen I lost the three well I ...
I lost the three one Lee I mean I had a whole team we lost the three one Lee but we ain't losing
“like that like yeah 23 straight shots that that was crazy that's that ultimately lost them”
that series and and game six I just don't know how you do that and I was hearing Houston when they missed 24 consecutive shots I would say I watched that game but it's just heartbreaking man because you you had such a you know up and down season due to your injuries you get into the play and you play it ass off and then you match up with the number one seed and for me it's like it was the perfect freaking series for y'all because how Detroit plays and who their identity is is a physical basketball team
well Orlando matches that because of their size and their physicality and I just thought that was a great series for them and they showed it got up three won and it's just that game six missing
no being up 23 or 24 and losing in the second half only score 19 points is heartbreaking and
when they lost game six I knew game seven they wasn't going on yeah so let's say that uh going into game six are like team act we need 10 minutes from you we'll play we'll play zone we'll play zone when you're on defense how many points are you going to score I don't know how money I'm going to score but I'm going to generate at least 10 to 15 points okay so they should have signed you he's not working anymore the uh the 13 points you had in 35 seconds yeah has anybody ever been
more in the zone was that the human pinnacle of like how in the zone one man can be I don't know to that many points I mean Reggie Miller had something similar actually somebody overseas just had a crazy game where they scored points like that but in a zone to where you score in 13 points in a minor time that I did no but you look back at some of the great scoring games yeah some guys have really been in a zone how how magical did that
feel like did you want the game to end it's like I will never miss a shot again yeah I felt like
in that moment in that span that you know what did it for me it's when I hit the full point play on Tim Duncan yes seven footer that I got off the office feet and we had the three point line and I had the muscle to get that shot up bumping into him and getting that shot up four three on to the free throw line making that and once that episode happened the basket just felt like it was it was I was throwing it in an ocean yeah that's right out of a lot of times and
“I just felt like we was going win that game that's why you see on that last play I'm not going”
and trying to tie the game I'm going to win the game because I have like something just came over
me at that moment yeah you were never gonna miss you mentioned Tim Duncan I don't know if we
talked about this when you came came by a few years ago but it really is one of the the big what ifs where it could have been you Grant Hill and Tim Duncan in Orlando what what what was the reasoning for it was it was it was it something about flights or something the Tim Duncan so Grant Hill told his story before and it had Grant Hill I guess they were at dinner and his significant other ask can family or wives travel on a plane and Doc River answered
to that was no and that was the deal breaker and that is true I told you Grant Hill told his story
“so I believe Grant Hill if you Doc Rivers and you have an opportunity to sign Tim Duncan”
who just want a championship and you team him up with forget me because I'm not after thought but Grant Hill in Orlando in the eastern conference and then what I later became to join that a man give him everything he wanted yeah give him everything he wanted let's just play fly the plane yeah it's crazy it is such a fun what if yeah that's you know when it's obviously you know after mj and bulls and in the east is kind of in a shifting spot and you
have the west you know with the lakers and and what happens there there there was a spot there for a team I especially if it was you Grant Hill and Tim Duncan who has been the original big three here you were dominated the surface what if skies yeah what ifs with me and been big
Four with was Grant Hill's wife yeah and yeah I would have loved to have Tim ...
what if Grant Hill was healthy like yeah and how great he was I was thinking about that do you
“think Grant Hill is the biggest like what if if that guy stayed healthy in the history of the NBA”
because he was so good he was what six eight yeah it's a lot it's it's a it's a handful of guys like that though I mean you got the rose you got pity hard away like pity only that four good years and that was my idol like he only had four good years Grant Hill only he had what five or six and so it was ankle injury so and derose man oh my gosh yeah I feel like it's yeah if it's like Grant Hill derose maybe Bill Walton you throw in there guys you're like you know
we're in there oh yeah yeah their flash was so good for sure and then it just never was the
same after you know a bunch of injuries we missed out on the longevity of their greatness we seen it but we missed out on the longevity of it speaking of longevity of greatness to bronze
“still obviously in the playoffs it is really insane what what does he have to I mean he”
I don't know what he can do in this series like going into this series I said I was like there's I'm not gonna hold this against the bronze thunder or just oh so much better than the lakers yeah like oh what against the bronze I'm just we should be happy that we still watch her play yeah I don't care what happens to the lakers it like they they're not gonna win this series are you kidding me oh some few guys have to get hurt for them to win this series yeah and they just
they're out man they don't have enough to to beat this scene yeah even if if Luca was playing would you say like maybe six games um yeah yeah I would say it would be a little bit more competitive and I would say this though they the the lakers out of all the games that I've seen this year to play off from Phoenix until game one they actually had a great game plan and I've
never seen SGA play the way he played right so the attention to detail and game plan that they have
for SGA work again they just didn't have enough to sustain you know that level of playing when they come in with the bench it's a huge drop off and they can't you know keep that up but the game plan was amazing yeah yeah the SGA did not go off SGA had a bad game for his you know he's 18 points is that's not SGA like the problem is the thunder then have just so many guys oh
“Jeremy kids you need to go four five three okay cool what do you do for that yeah that's the problem right you got I said Joe you got”
Karuso you got AJ Mitchell you got Jason Wallace you got Czech who had a big game so it's it they it's too many bodies it's too much greatness and I felt like you know I wanted to see the greatness of LeBron and JJ of their minds and how they was gonna approach this game and I'm gonna say I was highly impressed because okay see look like a different basketball team and what we've watched in the previous games or series against Phoenix sons yeah is there a team out there that might not maybe they haven't
won in the playoffs yet but an up and coming one where you're keeping an eye on them for next year like this is team that's getting better and no one's talking about them I mean I say watch off for the Portland Treasures man I think they're they're putting something special together over there they had a phenomenal season think about what they went through and it began in the season losing their coach see I go splitter had to you know sub then did a fabulous job with them you know
to get him you know in there and those guys respond the way they responded I just shows that the great leadership from Tiago from Jeremy Grant from Drew Holliday Dane and you get Dane back hoping they keep Drew and adds you know I don't know if they're gonna add but I like Portland next year to be a team that we'll be talking about not saying they're gonna be on the okay season and Tonya level but they are team that is is serves in that we should keep an eye on
yeah absolutely alright so T-Mac everyone like I said the what's the first date of the the
ones basketball league so we're gonna be in Orlando Florida guys may 15 at Oak Ridge High School get your tickets on online OBL who's calm please Orlando come out it's gonna be for now I'm gonna we're gonna have all the legends in the building Jalen Brown because he's the owner of the Boston I'm in the Boston of the Atlanta team all my owners J that kids Tim harder way senior Vince Carter
John Wall I mean the list goes on Lorenz take they all there it's it's gonna ...
hopefully you guys can make it but we're also gonna be streaming on football as well so yeah yeah and then I had one last question so uh the roadback question RHO BACK dot com promo code take
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“you want to paint Polk County and I think that's awesome man yes sir you already know baby”
yeah from a whole day every day I agree a surre for my League of Florida 863 love that hello you from Lakeland oh yes sir oh man hey my god you know how Polk County is better from the heart man of course definitely yeah I was curious so what was it like when you got that phone call that you made the cover of LnB live back in the day oh man as a as a kid it was just like
you know really seeing someone what you're seeing someone you know for the first time my
signature shoes on I just I went crazy like damn I made it yeah but not to to get that call that I was gonna be on the cover um after you know being a fan of the game it was just one of those moments man that you know all the joy just jumps on you and uh you know you you feel you have a grateful for that I get people to this day uh talking about that cover and just talking about that game on real feeling absolutely loved that for you man yes sir you got another
questions hack so we how far away are you guys from like where's Lakeland I got through a rock from Arbondale to Lakeland oh hell yes yeah it's like it's like 10 15 minutes love yeah he put a restaurant like five minutes from a house a couple years ago yeah you go it was short stamp yeah I we visited one time yeah yeah what do you think yeah I was doing a pandemic I sort of waited people didn't want to work so I had to shut it down but um yeah man Polk County
is one of those those counties where it's just all the neighboring towns it's just connected so and we got a lot of talent that came out of there even like Chris sells Chris sells the picture
“he's from where he's from Lakeland yeah yeah a lot of guys i think he's from Lakeland”
he really looks as well yeah another one Kathleen high school the couple guys I think got a bad shake you know uh core Sanders the Wayne Bacon a lot of talent come out of Lakeland sir you gotta see twins how do you twins has a big one there we go yeah yeah alright what what else you got Zach uh I was just curious are we gonna see any of those movie one uh championships in Polk County absolutely oh sure you know I got to break it to the
high school in Arbondale for sure oh you can break it to the gym yeah oh that's all that's all time I love that Zach thank you Zach it's our favorite place that maybe you guys can bond over that you would rest around or anything like that in in Polk County yeah I love it you go Zach that's that's both your core territories you might have it you might have to go to Orlando at Sanford my god yeah really understandable okay okay I was saying more of a
gas station because Zach you love gas station boy we got a lot of them yeah it's the best place to go grab some meat early or late night all right school did you go to Zach went to Georgia in his high school oh I murdered them I used to I used to give it to them Zach out there when I was when I was coming up in high school there were a brand new high school so you know the talent is something I used to get them crazy hell over there no but everybody's with the
“thing is like they say you should have the zoning but the zoning didn't matter because everybody”
just changed into dresses going to play Lakeland and going to play Kathleen you know what it's trying to as is terrible go ahead all the money over the edge or steaks man Lakeland and and and Kathleen a little bit different yeah that's for a compsat though yeah sure yeah all right well
team act thank you as always man we love having y'all we appreciate it and good luck with the
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Zach by the way the glasses you had to go with the alternate pair there's a backup pair
“their hot I respectfully their hot I appreciate you saying that big cat I think you draw more”
attention to your eyes yeah I am adjusting to the bezel I haven't had to it's almost like blinders like a horse because the bezel's colored now so I'm picking that up in my peripherals I do appreciate the comrades their gentlemen they mean more than you know hopefully get back to really scheduled I glass programming here soon my purpose the week is just that uh I thought that left my partner better state yesterday we finally got home you know been on the road for quite a while
uh there couldn't be more more things I need to do to get my life back together in that apartment than there is like what I mean the laundry is just like it's embarrassing the laundry right there's too much
of it just laying around there's never been I'm fortunate there's never been any lace in that
apartment uh is the laundry's bad left couple lights on the the PC was left on the entire time with my windows open I'm a little bit worried about sunday image that's a whole another thing I won't bore you guys with that be on my firefaces we could just sit like uh it's you could take maybe two to three weeks to get my life back together wait so you you walked out of your apartment just left everything on yeah I think yeah like but I did unplugged the alarm clock and I took a picture of it to
make sure wait wait take a picture of you locking your door well this morning I did a video yeah but yeah but just do it on Friday yeah it's just as a business decision yeah yeah make sure compound squared away every day when you leave do you also you unplugged the alarm clock and and picture that too now I know I don't usually photo the alarm clock I did when we left just because we were gonna be like AFK all the way away from keyboard oh yes yeah I mean I should say okay away from keyboard
okay I mean just tell me that Zach has another firefest that he hasn't oh so this in terms of leaving a room or two early this is where we're talking about exact the other day he he says that the booth will not keep a secret but this is the booth doing their job yeah like you share stuff
“with the booth and you got it you have to you have to you have to share with the class Zach you are a”
star the pop you got on Tuesday night wasn't saying the live show so much fun it was you guys build a beautiful thing and to see from a virtual eyes into i-rel eyes it was it was awesome see by the way thank you for everyone who came out to that live show it was awesome and thank you to Jerry and Rebecca and Blake Griffin and Ryan Racer low it was I think we all going into it because you know Netflix is a joke it's a big comedy festival and there's a shit low to shows so going into
it were like are we gonna be able to sell enough tickets and we like it was I think I got the final numbers 90% full and it was awesome crowd it's great pop like great pop cool YouTube theater was awesome we're on the wall fame now the wall of icons wall of icons next to Metallica yeah it was a really cool experience and we appreciate everyone who came out and celebrate with us and I don't know what the future for live shows is but I will say if we ever do end up trying to do live shows
we will obviously spread it out to a bunch of cities this was a specific one where it's like hey we're going to Vegas from Ash's Bachelor Party we got this live show like I get it some people are like why didn't you come to this city why didn't you come to that live shows we've been
asked to do them a bunch and it's just we never want to do a live show where we don't make it
some special and then traveling and trying to make an extra show it's it would probably hurt the
“our regular show yeah I think that it was really cool to do one time and we probably will do”
some more in the future but in terms of you know what this experience taught me actually is I do not want to do a tour yeah like a tour of live shows like doing the prep for getting one in having a great time at it I think it would really really affect the rest of the pod yes if we did multiple back to back to back even if we did like two or three a week I don't think that I like you know
Spin snipers even sniper post not the shotgun approach yeah choose they felt ...
we recorded the entire podcast then we went and did a live podcast yeah like this is weird I would
not want to do that no all right so now you're real firefighters so shot everyone who came we really really appreciate everyone's supporters special night and uh it was great meeting we're back
“a romantic it was like Jerry has told her nothing about us that's what we really learned she was completely”
in the dark about her his entire world he's living two separate worlds she is also way taller in person yeah way taller and way she she she mock Jerry oh big time yeah big time she also kissed me on my cheek did she kiss you on your cheek she did kiss me on my cheek to pick it back up that's all I'm gonna say she's just kissed me on my cheek I also have I don't know if you guys have this but actually I'll use it for my fire press but go ahead to pick it back off the live show I did step
away to take a nervous p in the worst time possible when memes had to defend the nicks and that's how me memes that I owe you in a apology well I should I should I had your back okay they're in the press off would play perfect oh yeah I should have been there to have his back and I stepped away nervous p that's on me and I and I'm sorry if that means that I preach you said to my apology so that was that was your other fire press you had a nervous p during the live show why not me tell
it that's not what memes was saying back here oh okay so something we got a third fire press
“who wait first first of all he's just there he's like oh who won the press i think it was”
well the nicks are up too well i think it was icy vert yeah yeah okay icy lib what's your actual fire first now that we've gotten that out of the system you did a couple practice reps for fire first I was already for a fire first I thought that was all the fire Zach was saying he left half his shit in Vegas would that yeah so I guess to piggyback off the alarm wake up I had limited time to pack and then most of my things are just in the in hotel room in Vegas not anymore like bathing suit gone two
pairs of my favorite shorts some of the socks I just purchased and like several pairs of
under like there's the essential stuff you pack two press charger which is kind of a bummer
you just let's see that the two press charges really I didn't notice I wouldn't talk to him me yeah I got I got both my both shoes made it the pair jeans made it other half of the boxers made it uh some of black t-shirts made it what did all your shoes make it double pairs made you had the uh the black t-shirts could have stayed you got you got plenty of backups there I know I just what was in the it was pretty much what's what was in the bag got closed in
what was piled separate side no I just closed and zipped we went I was gonna say like everyone has left something in a hotel room before but it's always you know you leave one thing you leave a hat you leave a charger you leave a shirt not half of your bags so you didn't pack I didn't repack those a quick zip and we're gone yeah I think Zach is in a point right now that he is worried that every time he sleeps he's late for something because we had we had no plans on what we
left what monday there was there was no plans there was no late for anything and he still worried he was like I I slept through that alarm I was I was like late I was like no dude you you didn't miss anything we didn't have anything to go to max I was in transit convo I'm saying this to help you're right yeah yeah yeah you're you're you're nerves yeah I was so everything is late there's no way to know no you're trying to time to pack but I know in your brain you're like holy shit I'm
sleeping past my alarm right I'm late I'm late I'm late the fun doesn't matter we got to go
funny is part about Zach waking up in the morning when we we finally got him to rise up
he like popped out of bed like sat straight up and then he went to do the glasses thing with both of his hands but he didn't have glasses so there's nothing on there uh and then he just goes first words I'm dialed I'm so dialed let's go like the second that he opened his eyes I heard pifties voice and I was like they're I'm probably late for something were you so we got maybe it's partially us too we got like yesterday I texted you did that did that freak you out when you woke up
I was gonna ask you about that little bit later but we're good yeah we're not good it's like 1230 when I was on the yacht we had a Cincinnati redcomb by who actually was like I used to live in the town that Zach sold used cars so he's like I want to meet Zach smoke out he wanted he wanted some ice cream so I texted Zach at like 1230 and I was like hey are you here today and Zach texted me back at 630 p.m he's like hey I'm awake what do you need but that was okay
because that was a travel day got like that was not that we we we we we we're on the road for five days I didn't expect you to be in I was more just saying hey if you're here come over but that I'm sorry
“that probably freaked you out when you woke up no I think it kind of feels important”
do you have a good sleep yeah I'm so I feel I slept from like 11 to text like three minutes
Four text six yeah what's on me waking up tomorrow I got my alarm set for tex...
I get a text I wake up man Zach I don't want you to be stressed like this no no stress of all I'm just you got you got to get better you know what I mean one one percent better every day when you say no stress all do you mean no stress at all or do you mean like a little bit so I'm aware but you've got a little stress you're so stressed right now yeah you can't sit still you're good you're good you're star I just love being part of this team what a blessing we love having you are PFT I mean besides
is like hanging out with Max all weekend after he was hanging out with the guy that had the haunt of Iris on the plane besides what that was going to be mine yeah yeah besides that I'm pretty good week I'd say that I'm a I'm a big price in December fan oh and I'm a little bit worried about whether or not he's going to be able to assimilate back to the PGA tour given some of the recent comments that he's had yeah have you read what would he say yeah have you read there's
“an interview that came out I don't know what planet price in December lives on I think he might not”
actually live here anymore he's I think he's just trying he thinks that he's Mr. Beast right now and so they asked about going back to the PGA tour and he's like you know I'm very easily just triple my audience and they're like what do you mean he's like well I could I could redub them in different languages and then I would triple my YouTube growth okay doing that so he's he's like trying to figure out the leverage that he has against the PGA tour right and to be fair the PGA tour
with the live guys potentially coming back they're spiking the football a little bit yeah they're big dicking them but I would do the same they're like yeah you guys left you tried to sue us
so you basically have to like you have to kiss our feet before you come back we want you to
humility play bore on the floor before you get back on the PGA tour Bryson and Bryson is trying to drum up whatever leverage he possibly can to kick back in against that so maybe the funniest part of this interview was when he says the egos need to get dropped everyone needs to come in with a level headed playing field and then right after that he basically said like I could do so much
“for the PGA tour yeah you need to make it work for me it he goes I think requires a little bit of”
everyone lowering their guards the egos need to get dropped and then he's like also at the same time I want you to respect what I can bring to this to this arrangement right and I want you to guess because he's trying to say the other different options that he has he referred to the team equity that he has and the at the other live players have in the teams that they built with live how much how much do you think Bryson thinks those teams
are worth 200 million exactly 200 million really he said the teams are worth 200 million
good for Bryson it sounds like Bryson read the art of the deal or maybe Bryson like did a Wikipedia on how to negotiate yep so he's he's trying to like fill in all the things in his life to the like ready made blueprint for how to negotiate against somebody and then at the end he was just they asked the CEO of the live tour about Bryson and he he pretty much said like yeah Bryson he's an interesting guy he's you know he's one of a kind like pretty much same
Bryson's insane to be demanding all these things from PGA tour and meanwhile Brooks has it made Brooks is just Brooks is just hanging out on Thursdays and golf tournaments and being like hey wake me up if if I'm allowed to play yeah if not I'll just I'll just take an app I'll be here if you need me he's wanted so he's won that yeah and then also other far-fetched any woodhead almost made the US open ah or almost made the next round of qualification with long as they in golf which Shane Bacon did
“yes I saw the so congrats to Shane Bacon Danny Woodhead with I think he he birdied 18 to put”
himself in an alternate position so if one guy drops out then Danny Woodhead gets to enter that last round of qualification yeah so Danny you just tell me what guy we have to ton your hearting and and we'll make the rest happen so you can get in all right my far-fetched as quick I just after every bachelor party I think the most relatable thing every guy goes through is just like I miss the boys like I'm I go through gerial connoisseur all I really do when we get to spend a
couple days of them and then we then he's taken away from us I'm just like man I missed this guy Dante same way I saw Dante this morning when I say hi to him he was doing the dozens so we're like
we couldn't talk and I was just like man fucking love this guy so it just sucks it's always sucks
leaving a bachelor party and just being like man well that was that was maybe we should just live in a penthouse in Vegas with all of our best friends doing a shitload of stuff the problem is the problem with that is it stuff that there could be water slides that could be maybe
Water slides barbecues golf I don't think I'm ever gonna be able to do Vegas ...
Vegas last weekend well we might have to just do it every year it was the perfect set it what it
“was like there's it cannot in Vegas will never get better than that do you remember the”
member of the conversation we had when we were planning this max you remember the conversation yeah no it was it was very fun you said he back said to me and I understood he was like I'm not a
big Vegas guy and I was like max listen I understand it because when I was in my 20s I wasn't a big
Vegas guy either but when you have the the the funds to be able to do Vegas right Vegas is the
“fucking best it really was did it all maybe once it once a year we just do it we need you”
we just do a little little we we don't do a live show after we just go hold Zach we need you to
get engaged this year bachelor party in Vegas got fun to wife yeah yeah yeah so you know how all
this we have to bring up we have to bring a friend to that podcast yeah I would like it if you brought a future fiance yep okay I can bring up a potential life partner yeah and then we could enter the dystopian future of Vegas again yeah yeah together yeah we can get your glasses back
“oh I'm going to get those yeah yeah whatever okay max you actually I think so yeah I think so”
56 it's exactly I feel exactly I'm doing exactly what the guy next to me on the plane was doing yeah he was I was sitting behind max and he was the guys these 75 times did not cover his mouth one single time like I actually should be jail you're in the haunted house 77 at 15 26 my fire fest I miss my Colombian coins for a strip club oh didn't speak a little six nine points in the 2022 32 32 happy birthday to trade
lands Tony Gwen RIP Billy Joel happy birthday Billy Joel I've ever heard they should boozey have birthday to all the mothers out there on Sunday oh yeah what happy mother's there what is your mother's and shout out to the dad's out there working hard behind the scenes yeah Sundays hard dad yeah you working hard behind the scenes trying to make mother's day a special day for mom no one's saying thank you but I will thanks dad's
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