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How are the booth boys? Meem's going to the parade right after this. Meem's going parading. Meem's parading. Has it said in Zach?
How you guys feeling? I'm feeling great. I can't wait to experience my first parade. I was trying to convince you guys to suspend me. But you guys were just nice enough to let me go.
Well, yeah, it was outrageous.
“You were like, hey, can you please just go to the parade, dude?”
This is not your first parade. No, it was my first parade.
You've never seen a parade before.
What about Pride last year? True, that one. You do live in Boyz town. I do live in Boyz town. I have actually been to multiple parades.
I've seen some parades. But this is my first champion championship parade. Yeah. Water dogs. Can go to that one.
Okay. Blake Griffin, Blake of the year parade. That was pre me memes. That was pre memes. Yeah, all right, so first parade.
First parade ever. What are you going to do? Are you going to get hammered? Yeah, we're taking the six o'clock train in love that. And then it's just go from there.
Who are you going with? Friends, family. Two, two friends. They also are flying in. And then we're just going right into the city.
Can I give you some parade advice? The best part of the parade is actually after the parade. The like glow, I'm thinking about like when the black hawks parades happen. The glow in the city and the drinking afterwards. Because it's different than obviously a wintertime parade.
Like that, that is the, that is peak life like noon to seven o'clock. Everyone out drinking at a bar with your friends post parade is just magical.
I'll take all advice.
That's it. That's the only advice. They just get drunk all after like when the parade ends, the parade doesn't end. That's when that's when it's really fun to just hang out.
“I think there's one guy here that's got a lot of parade experience that might be able to tell”
you a thing or two. Like give some tips, Hank. You've got to bring a lot of my parades or when I was under age, you've got to bring some water bottles, some some, some alcohol and water bottles.
Always a good tip, shooters.
And then I mean, my last parade I was just kind of, I was taking the bullets for coach. I was just, people were throwing alcohol onto the duck boat. And I was, I was the one that put my hand up. It's a don't worry. I'll all, I'll drink these all all, all wear that.
I did get way too drunk. But if that, it is like big, I said, it's the greatest day of all time. High five, everyone hug everyone, take a lot of pictures. You'll remember it forever. Maybe get a few, who let the dogs out chance go on when coach comes by.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we tape your nipples up. Someone did send me pasties. We're kind of pastied like tassels, like cute ones. No, just like just the ones that covered your nipples.
Got it. Like that. Zach, how are you feeling? I feel great.
It's been pretty awesome just watching all the guys live their absolute best life.
Post when. Yeah, I just watching all the guys, just river on a city. Do the interviews. Absolutely tanked. I just wish nothing more for these guys.
Just continue to just absolutely rip through the entire summer. Oh, it's been awesome. So, so my predictions for the parades, I, this isn't a bold prediction.
“But I think that Jose Alvarado has already been named the favorite to be the J.R. Smith shirt off”
drunk in random spots throughout the day weekend guy. Is that fair to say? I mean, he's from Williamsburg. But like I just close my eyes and see Jose Alvarado to parade day. It's 9 p.m.
And he's on the Twitter at Coney Island with the bottle of champagne. You're like popping up everywhere throughout the city. I absolutely loved O.J. and I know be going on more than time television. And just not just being nonverbal.
Yeah, so drunk that he couldn't talk anymore.
It's mean that we make these guys do media hits the morning out. Crazy. I would say no. I mean, I guess I know that they want to go out and be in the spotlight for a little bit and celebrate publicly on TV.
So, I would say, fuck no, I'm in no condition. I'm on a television. Yeah, and then we had the McHale Bridges Instagram Live, which was very funny. Him and his dog, yeah. Yeah, that's great.
He was going nuts. We had the clip two of Jalen Bronson saying, "Fuck Wemby." And now people are retroactively saying Wemby was right to not shake hands. Mm-hmm. I don't really, I don't, I don't know where I land on all this. I don't really care.
So, Jalen Bronson saying, "Fuck Wemby knew that Jalen Bronson would be the kind of guy that would say "Fuck Wemby." Sure, that's why he didn't shake hands. Yeah, I mean, Wemby's very smart like that. Yeah, that's the monk shit. So, I'm coming into the future.
He should have seen Castle's back. Yeah, the other thing we have coming out of the NYX NBA Championship is we are now heavy, heavy, into Jalen Bronson legacy talk, and where he ranks. Now, we did on Wakeup Barso, but we ranked top 10 NBA players, and Steven Chay was on the show. He ranked Jalen Bronson 5 for current top 10 NBA players.
I ranked Jalen Bronson 1. That's the whole point of winning a championship. Did you get to spend an entire offseason saying your guy's number one? Well, yeah, that's the point for Steven Chay. Right. Like, why didn't he definitely should do that?
Yeah, right. But anyone could do it because you could just say, "Whoa, like, oh, I think Jalen Bronson is better than Jalen Bronson. Okay, who scored 45 points into the close-out game?" It's almost like the Dummer U.R. and the more of a fan U.R. I expect you to be way stupider with your right. More like President of the moment with your rankings. If you're like an analyst guy that is a math, like Sabre Metrics dude,
then I would be like, "Whoa, how is he number one?" Yeah.
“You're ranking. But if you're a fan of the next, yes, you should be saying,”
you should put, "Fuck it, let's put OG in the top 10 too." It's your entire Joe Flacco elite. Yeah. The whole point of winning a title is that the next four months you get to just say, "My best guy is the best guy in the whole league." And then if somebody says, "But Joe Flacco is not elite," then you're like, "He won a Super Bowl."
Yeah. And then they say, "But then sort of Trentilfer." And then you say, "Oh, so you're saying that Trentilfer's also elite." Yeah. And "Oh, Yo Kitch is really good."
Yeah. He is really good. Did he play in the finals this year? He did not play in the finals this year. Yeah. I rest my kids and even play in the semi-finals. People would do with Brady and Rogers and Peyton Manning.
We don't have to go. The skills and the stats and stuff. But it's winning, winning above all. Yeah. So you get, yeah, you get, then you get in the conversation of like, "Yeah, you know, Jill and Bronson, he is the best." But it's either greatest.
But you, you won't winers. He is a winner. There's about skills who cares about, you know, points in the regular season. It's all about winning.
It's just winners, yeah. Yeah. It's just winners. How many the top 10 were Boston Celtics of Chaser?
Yeah.
I think he had Jill and Bron at 10. And no Tatum. No Tatum. Yeah, I saw Brady Walker did. He did a list, which was such a cup.
“And he just did Jill and Bron slash Jason Tatum.”
Oh, yeah, that is a cup. Like, whichever one is playing bad at the time. That's like the Nick and KB, like they're different people. Yeah. Yeah.
Now, I've seen a lot of things recently, Hank, about your Boston Celtics. There's, there's a lot of rumors in Skullbud. There's a lot in Skullbud. My favorite was shout out,
"Oh, there we go. "Cinegal just tied. "Maybe one one." We're really into ties right now. Where the boys are heavy, uh, fuck was off sides.
We're heavily leveraged in the tie market. Yeah, we're for the world cup right now. We're, uh, I did see that Simmons did his post in BA finals break down, uh, essentially just entirely on what Boston would have to give up to get yawness.
Are you going to get yawness? Maybe? Oh, can we put that out of the report? Henry Lockhart is reporting yawness to the Celtics. Maybe.
I mean, when he said it, it's like Brad Stevens doesn't doesn't deal with agents. Like, things that he's doing does not leak. So I feel like it's all fake smoke. But there is a lot of a lot of Skullbud going on online
about yawness in Boston. But it's yawness. He's, he's, he's the king of this.
He's never going to get trained.
He's, he is the king of Skullbud. He's the king of he's going here. He's going there and then he doesn't go anywhere. He's addicted to Skullbud. Yeah.
Shoms and yawness are addicted to Skullbud. I don't know if it's yawness as much. I don't think, I think yawness has been worked in the system so much by everyone just knowing that if I talk about yawness, I can get clicks.
I don't know if yawness is the one who's like, I need to be traded or it has to happen right now. But you would want yawness. Would you want yawness?
“Would you want to trade jail and brown or chase and tape?”
I trust Brad Stevens with whatever he does. That's a cop out of me. Do you want yawness? Sounds like you're not a yawness guy and that's fine. I'm not going to say I don't want yawness because if we get him
I won't be happy we get him but I won't. Do you want yawness answer the question yes or no? No. Wow. Okay.
Why? That's going to hurt if you get yawness. Would you like to answer differently just in case? No. Okay.
Right? I think Hank got a little bit sooner. We want to change it with jail and brown and chase and tape him. Why would we like give that up? Because then you also lost in a playoff with both of those guys.
No, chase and tape him got hurt before the season ended and then he barely came back than of the year the share was not at 100%. You know what? I'm going to give credit to Hank. You know, a lot of people say Hank, you know,
not the smartest can't read all this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That was smart by Hank. Because if he said he wanted yawness I would have said why you hate you jail and brown. And I don't, I love jail and brown.
Right. Exactly. So that was smart.
But then when you do get yawness you never want to think of it as out of my control.
Are you, do you think what for Jim Brown is next? No, we're going to get back to you. Well, this is, I mean, offseason, it starts at, I have one last thing. Do you think it elevates or decreases jail and brown's legacy that he is going to go to college with Zach?
Elevates. Okay. I'm talking about streamer university. Jim Brown is applying and so is Zach. Where's your application at? Everything's the end. I just got to finish the video portion.
Okay. What are you going to do for the video? Is a compilation video they get to put together. So I've been brainstorming now. I got to finish it. Yeah, I want explosions.
“A little bit of power dynamics. I think shit.”
I want to throw in there. I want some explosions. So jail and brown is going to go to Kaisenot's streamer university. Yeah, he's trying to. And when is that taking place again? I think you apply there's no official date yet.
They're doing in person. I know of out of person applications right now. They're going to teach me how to type left-handed too. Uh, I'm not sure what he would get into. I know there's a basketball program.
So you're probably on basketball team. Yeah. That'd be sick. Yeah. That makes it. Yeah, that's an awesome bat. What magic if you were on the same starting five is Jill and Brown.
Show it for basketball practice. I probably go and draft it. He plays my position. I don't. Don't belittle yourself, Zach. Come on. Is he?
Do we think he's a better basketball player at Twitch streamer at this point? Oh, good question. I think it's like a half. Uh, how many people are going to get into the streamer you? I'm not quite sure in full transparency,
but how he would be like a heavy favorite, maybe? Yeah, because I mean, I feel like more people are in the NBA than there are at streamer. You. Right. Streamer University 120 creator. So you're right. Yeah. It's harder to get into streamer.
You think it is to get in the NBA. It's fat. That's pretty, that's pretty crazy. So it's really, really good streamer. He's his multi-talented guy. I thought he was very, he was refreshingly honest.
This postseason when he was hopping on the live streams, which I appreciate. That's he's got step one down. Cool. Now, do you think that the Boston Celtics might see him going to streamer university and say like, this is maybe not the guy that we want if he's like so committed to the streamer life?
No, he's always been, he's always been a different cat,
smart guy likes to do different stuff, especially in the offseason. I don't think the live any issue with him.
Mhm.
speech to the next before the playoff run.
“What was said in that speech? Was it, did he ask them to not, not fuck?”
He, he asked it in a certain way. I missed it. Watching the video, but I mean, it's like a her broke style speech. What did he say? He just was like, I'm not raising the NBA cup banner. No, he essentially just called a shot. It was on April 3rd. He brought the entire team in. He said, you guys have what it takes,
and you just need to lock in for this next 10 weeks. And everyone, your loved ones will get a ring, your friends will get a ring. Wow. Yeah. And he said, no sex. He said a version of it. Yeah. No, said, do you think anybody on the team? Just said, said, oh, the owner's right.
I bet you won, Guy. Who? No, no, no, no, you know what you're going to say?
“He's always going to say, when he could never. He's too French, huh?”
I think it may be Tyler Colick, but. No, Tyler Colick is not a fuck. You kidding me? Big time, fucks. Tyler Colick is his name is going to be Eshen History. Yeah, Tyler Colick, fucks. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think, I think everybody in the team still fucked. Oh, there they are. Oh, yeah, they're the next. We're watching the World Cup. This is, I mean, they, I actually think that the parade date was so perfect. I don't know why
more teams don't do this, especially for the spring sports, summer spring, summer sports.
Make the parade like a week later, because you basically are saying to your team,
you get to party for this entire week. Because what's parade happens that everyone goes or separate ways offseason starts? But yeah, if you make the game was Saturday, the parade Thursday, they just get a stretch where they just get to just be the fucking man. I saw Mike Brown showing up to a restaurant. Everyone stood up and gave him a round of applause. That was cool. Mm-hmm. Like, you're just, it has to be like one of the coolest things to win a, to win a title
in New York City. Yeah, especially in the start of the summertime in New York City. Right. It's pretty cool. Do you think, do you think that they're going to track Tim's down and make sure he gets a ring? Listen, I, I know people are, there's, there's people who've been like, oh, yeah, Tim's like biggest loser. I, they don't, they don't win this without tips. I really believe that. Do you agree, memes? Yeah, 100%. Culture wise, I, I do think there's probably tips might
be watching this and be like, oh, shit. I did have a championship roster and, and maybe if I had pulled some levers a little differently, that, that's probably got to be some tough, you know, self-scouting. But overall, tips inherited a god-awful next team in franchise and made them winners pretty quickly and made them competent. And then, yeah, Mike Brown obviously took them over the top. But I, the guy before the guy, I think still has some importance. Yeah, he turned to the team around
“for sure. That's why I'm wondering, I don't know what his relationship is like. And it's crazy to”
look back on where that team was like a year ago. You guys didn't have a coach. That was a crazy thing. Yeah, they interviewed every, they tried to interview every coach in the league and got laughed at. Yeah, that's right. And forgot about that. Remember, they tried to like interview, who was it? They tried to, Jason kid. Yeah. They asked Joe Mazulab that got turned down. Yeah. I believe it was Doc Rivers, Cleveland Head Coach. There was a couple others. There was one point in the season.
Three guys they asked all were fired. And now Mike Brown looks at you now. Yeah, I do think this is just like one of the greatest underdog stories ever, especially like with everybody on the team. Yeah, I know this kind of changes the subject. But like Mike Brown got swept by the spurs. Now he's had LeBron greatest player ever. And then all he needed was Jaylon Brown. Jaylon Brown said, you know, other guys who are slept on in the league. Yeah. To become a champion.
It's just a really good story. Hank, would you have, would you have given up Joe Mazulab to coach the next? If knowing what we know now, he would not have won a championship with the next this year.
Or ever. I would never give up Joe Mazulab for anything. Even if he kept memes off the
post now for forever. No. So you wouldn't give Joe Mazulab to the next is a sleeper cell. No. Because it's hard when still being Boston. Right. He'd still watch the town every day. I don't worry about the next. Like I'm I'm worried about the Celtics. Yeah. I want Coach Mazulab coaching Celtics. What are you guys laughing about in the booth? What's he give it to us? There. I mean, there were three C in the east. The greatest underdog story in the history of sports
is a little, is a little far-fetched. Yeah. I mean, listen, I actually kind of followed it though for a little bit because I was thinking about it. Cats and number one overall pick. But he was traded and guys like Josh, Josh Hard is an underdog story in the fact that he doesn't, you know, do much offensively. And he's just an absolute dog. James Brunson is second round pick. The the maves didn't
Resign him.
Oh, gee, can't you? What was escape was escape goat with the sons? Don't forget that. Yeah, OG want to ring with the raptors but didn't play. So the little. I'm saying that the greatest
“underdog story in the history of sports is the right whole thing. I think in myself, um,”
I think of Leichester City in England and there were 10,000. Boston Douglas in 1980 Olympics. And I think the next are more. Yeah. I'm not a dog. The tie that happened yesterday. The tie. Yeah. The tie. The great tie. Yeah. All right. The hurricanes. I had a couple of things in the hurricanes. One, um, the, did you guys see that Rod Brindemore had in the offseason program. He implemented a thing called blue collar presses that after the workout, guys would have to press up a 35 pound
cinder block, which is the weight of the Stanley Cup. That's awesome. So they basically were sneakily
training to lift the Stanley Cup. I love that. Now, that said did he know that? I think I think that he did did the players know it. I don't think the players because that would be an ultimate reveal. You know, like right after the seasons, right before they hoist the cup up, he's like, hey, I plan this all
“long. Yeah. Yeah. That. And, um, I think the biggest loser in the Stanley Cup final is the Portland”
Trail Trail Blazers. I think they're the biggest loser. I was thinking about it because Tom Dundin owns the hurricanes has won a cup, doing it his way somewhat cheaply. I think Rod Brindemore's not one of the highest paid coaches. He's one of the best coaches. And, uh, you just saw it because Tiago splitter is now the bull's head coach because Tom Dundin said he was going to pay his head coach
$1.5 million, which is vastly underpaid. Yeah. So I think the Trail Blazers are going to have to learn.
They're going to have to have this time where, like, imagine if David Tepper won a world series while owning the Panthers his way. And then he's like, yeah, that reaffirms that I know everything about everything and every sport and every sport. Yeah. In hockey and basketball are not the same sport, but Tom Dundin is going to like, see you guys? I did it. I'm going to do it with the blazers too. Yeah. You might be on to something there. Tiago splitter, are you happy that hard?
I am. I mean, listen, players are, it's, it's a players league. We're going to actually talk to Will Stein to tuck you, uh, head football coach who has, uh, he basically has a mantra that's about that. Uh, but I'm happy that Michael Ryan Zorf went out and hired a GM that was not inside the bull's organization and then they hired a coach that was not in the bull's organization. And Tiago splitter is a, you know, pop tree came, you know, played for the spurs, young guy, the blazers,
it doesn't get talked enough about the fact that the blazers this season, they made the playoffs and their head coach got arrested by the FBI after the first game. Tiago splitter was basically handed a team where their head coach was just doing a perp walk out of nowhere after game one and he did a pretty damn good job. So, look, NBA coaches, like outside of a few, a handful and maybe Tiago splitter becomes that. I don't know if there's like a big difference between the fifth
best coach and the NBA and like the 25th. I think it depends on the, it's more about the personality blending in with the guys that you have in your team. And everything I've read, he is, he is a good, you know, I think players respect players. He's, you know, obviously played one championship with spurs and so, and young guy and he did good things with the blazers for the time he was there. So, yeah, I'm in. I'm in. I really would have been in any way, no matter what. I'm in on it.
The, the, they could have re-hired Billy Donovan, but like, yeah, maybe, I was just saying the, the blazers seem like they might be a fun team to coach now, though. Maybe, but we know
but he said Tiago splitter down and say, hey, I know it's a few million dollars less, but
I think all the fun you might have, I think, playing in. I think it's a pretty big, slapping your face if you're like, hey, every coach is getting paid like between four and five billion dollars and I'm only going to pay you one. He wants guys that that want to enjoy them. So, yeah, that's a tough sell. Just runs and took a pick up. True. He did. Did he? Oh, is that why you brought up a cake? Did he? Huh, did he? What do you mean? I didn't, but please do tell. I mean, I,
I would hope that you would be all over this thing. I'm not so pleased and light me. I feel like he did. You're, you're not, you're not one of the conspiracy theorists out there with Jill and Brooks.
“You're not. Okay. So I, I think Hank should look into this. What did you, can you inform me?”
I mean, there's, are you saying, did I? I think, I think every team in the league has, uh, they create a people. Oh, interesting. PFT Goals is like a clipper situation. I'm just thinking there's some, every team, I'm not saying that the only ones that do it, every team does it. They, every team should do it. What do you know, PFT? I don't know anything. What are you
Getting?
I wish he was a little bit more locked in on the next, uh, as an opponent. Hmm. What do you think, Hank? Do you think there's a chance? What is he talking about, memes? Is there a chance that there's some malfeasance going on? I'd guess if I was being said. Okay. But when he on and said, the next have a cap expert. I think he said, they have an agent. No, who's the GM? No, cap, cap expert. Oh, they have a cap expert. So that's why. Yes.
Got it. And he, he was like, this is $114 million less than that. So we should do this one instead.
As a cap expert. Yeah. Yeah. And then he's just going to get paid in his next contract. I just think that it's awesome that Jill and Bronson said, like, I'll take $100 million less. That's team first. That's, that's a team for that. That is the kind of guy that you would want to win. And listen, I said the same thing about Tom Brady on the page. Like, that's awesome that he's actually not getting paid all the money that they say that he's not getting paid. Mm-hmm.
“Team first guy. Team first guy. He was first guy. Yeah. I know. That's what I just said. What are you talking about?”
I, I literally have no idea. Yeah. I know. I, I don't know either. I was like, I would like, question to spell it. We're just asking questions. He's just asking questions. Is there like a report coming out that we have a quad situation? No, there's no report coming out that we have a quad situation. Not that I know of. That would be fascinating if there was. We've been talking to Tori. I've not been talking to Tori about it. So what you're saying is he
took $100 million less and won a championship. Yeah. Which is awesome to be the face of New York.
Yeah. And now could probably get endless money and advertising. Yeah. I'm trying to, I do think he's going to make more money long term. He is going to make a lot of money long term. I'm also just hoping that Hank can, like, you know, get back on his feet in terms of hatred. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to look. I, I do some look at it. I don't really know what you're talking about unless it's a clipper situation. I'm just going to say, well, yeah. I mean, it did his
dad get paid $100 million to be a coach. When Tom Brady was taking all those pay cuts for the Patreon, it's his wife was his wife was rich. Yes. When he was married, he had a very, very rich wife. He also had a great charity that did a lot of work. Oh, it really got turned to me. I don't know.
I've never heard that before either. Okay. All right. PFT finds out. Yeah. Sounds like you're talking
“Tory. I'm just, oh, I don't know. This is, are you doing Tory right now? The only thing I”
found so far is sports investigator, Pablo Tory says he's looking in the jail in Bronson's 113 million dollar pay cut, but that was in September 4, 2025. Oh, yeah. I, listen, I still look into it. I just always thought it was interesting. That's all. I thought it was an, I love it. It's going on here. I just love interesting stuff, Max. He's a curious cat. I'm, I'm just trying to stir the pot. That's all. That's all. The pot needs to be stirred a little. It sounds like
the pot is because right now, when I look at Hank, I see a stagnant pot. I see a bunch of liquid that's just not moving around at all, not boiling, and I want that. I mean, you can't take a championship away. Like, I don't, I don't like, I agree. But I'm, I'm worried about next year. I'm not worried about Jill and Bronson and, and where his money comes from. But I'm just saying anytime your, your arch rival wins something, you have to be ready to tell them why actually it shouldn't
count. Get in the fight. That's next rivals. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I feel like I'm more of a rival than you are, Hank. You're just a loser. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, just trying it like they won. They have a parade on Thursday. I agree. No conspiracy is going to
“change that. I agree. Imagine if they stopped a parade, but Hank, you have to be found out,”
but Hank, you understand that this is what, this is what I did for decades with the Patriots. Yeah. Just find a reason why, why they actually shouldn't be as happy. That's what I want you to start. He's trying to steal some joy. Hop in with him. He's being a thief. I'll look into it. Yeah. I mean, I'm, we're going to have to talk after this. I mean, you can't just look through some foiyas, maybe. I can't wait to see Hank look at into this. Yeah. Hank finds out. Yeah. I want the other
last, last two things, uh, torts out for the nights. So he's, he's not coming back. He needs to be like in a remote. Yeah. It's like, if your, if your season goes bad, smash the torts button. And yeah, like, I, I don't really blame the golden nights for not resunding, even though he was the perfect coach for them this year. Yep. Just whatever team has great players that under achieves halfway through next season, smash the torts button. He's a perfect guy to get in there for a few months at
a time. Fire you up. And then yeah, you might grind your gears for a little bit and you'll have to get him out. But he's the guy that you want to bring in. If things, if you think you've got a team that's good enough to make some noise. Yeah. And then here's a crazy stat I saw from Dan Maraza. He said that there is not one active NHL arena that's had the Stanley Cup presented on its ice surface more times than T mobile arena in Vegas. Isn't that pretty nuts? Yeah. I mean, to, in order to do that,
you would have to be good enough to make the Stanley Cup. And they've only been a franchise for nine
Years.
couple that are tied, but still crazy. It's also the best place to win a Stanley Cup. Yeah, cast to be easily. Not even, I mean, it's one one. Yeah, not even club, which is probably why teams win it, have won it there three times. Yeah. Oh, two times. Yeah. Three Miami. Miami would be sick. 11 would be sick. Yeah. I remember the, like, the team USA, Miami celebrations look pretty, pretty sick. Yeah, they did. Yeah, but there's one to Miami. That's that's fair, but imagine if they wanted
“the second one to Miami too. But that's what I'm saying. If you want it in Miami, jet lag,”
yeah, don't have a team of Miami. How if you guys, if let's describe it as that far, if part of my take won a championship, how how many, and when our parade was four days away, how many hours of
sleep do you think you could actually do? Because I, I'm always amazed by these guys who were like,
yeah, I've slept, I've slept two hours in the last four days. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, just naps. I think it's adrenaline. It's also them being younger and much better shape. Yeah, that definitely helps. Also, they don't like really drink that much all the time, so their bodies are just without making it harder. Yeah, true. We get drunk faster. That's what I'm saying. But then you get drunk faster, so you don't have as much alcohol to burn through. Yeah, you're just a lightweight.
Yeah, be fun. Did you? So the hangover's probably aren't that bad if you're lightweight, because you don't have to drink that much to drink. You can drink for so much longer when you're not a light light. This is the time when I need the, the, the whoop sets. I want, I want a whoop on Joseelver on the right now. Like I'd, I'd pour over that data. See how, yeah, how much sleep he's getting. Yeah, just how he's at 1% for the last like five days. Oh, the recovery,
looking up, waking up in the morning, looking at that recovery, and you're like, I thought I felt good until it told me 1%. It would be sick. I actually feel terrible now. Okay, let's talk a little world cup before we do that. Draft Kings, uh, draft Kings this summer. The cup is taking over the US and only draft Kings has you covered every step of the way. The draft Kings sports work app is now available in all 50 states and includes all markets bringing the game straight to your
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every game to end in a draw. Yeah, it was incredible. Four draws, four games,
“Cape Verde, having the tie was Spain. That's the tie the decade, I think. It was unreal. Yeah,”
it was unreal. They just didn't really feel like playing much offensive all. They said, we're going to, we're all going to stay inside our penalty box and just make Spain take long-ass shots and hope that our goal stands on his head and it worked out. And then their goalie went from having $50,000 on Instagram to after the game was over. I think he had like $5 million. Yeah,
and he might be up to like $8 million on Instagram, right? Yeah. That was incredible. That's
why the world cup is the best tournament in the world. Because you get shit like that. Cape Verde has, I think I only knew them as being the islands where like hurricane start. Yeah. In the Atlantic Ocean, they're so small. I think like the third smallest country to ever plan a world cup. And then to tie the Spaniards was was pretty unreal. And then, did you hear that the goalie that you talked about who got all those, oh, he's 9.6 million followers? Yeah. I guess apparently on the broadcast
“40. On the, he's 40. I believe he's 40 years old. Yeah. On the broadcast, they were just the”
announcers were just shouting them out. Not the Spanish broadcast, not the American broadcasting, the broadcast. This is the, he's got more than Wendy. The announcers were just shouting out as Instagram handled the entire game. I love that. Yeah. So that was a big part of it. Good for him. Yeah. It was, it was fun. I'm getting swept up to the ties were excellent. That was honestly like the craziest tie given the talented difference between the two teams. But that's why soccer is a cool
Sport because like you can just commit to just playing nothing but defense an...
entirety of the game. And every now and again, you'll, you'll come out with a point. And then
Saudi Arabia's goalkeeper was amazing. Yeah. Yesterday too. That was a great draw. That was another
great tie. They're all I love every tie. Yeah. I was going to say equally, not probably not equally,
“which is kind of ironic for a tie. But I think they're all, they're all special in their own beautiful”
ways. That's Spain Cape Verde. They'll be talking about that for decades in Cape Verde. It was the first time, or sorry. Yeah. I think it was the first time since like 1956 that there was a World Cup day where there was four ties. Yeah. So we timed it pretty good. We timed it perfectly. It was also a moment that I was like, hey, just chill out because you think that you figured it out and they're basically saying that it's something that happens once a century. Yeah. It's probably as good as
it's going to get for us. And we're going to continue to bet this every World Cup from now on
and we'll never have a day like that. Oh, we're doing round two. Yeah. The second second group. Oh,
for sure. Yeah. I'm going to keep rolling with that. I thought New Zealand in Iran was a great game too. Yeah. Last night. Yeah. Shout out just, just had two goals for them. And then the Iranian team, they're, they're getting the run around. They had to leave after the game and get their ass back to Mexico. And they didn't say who was kicking them out. If it was FIFA, if it was like a US official, if it was an Iranian official, I was saying get the fuck out of the United States after
the game. Okay. So the Iranian team is going to play back in the United, they were supposed to start training in Arizona. But then they had to move to Tijuana because the whole war thing that's going on. So now they had to like get out of Los Angeles right after the game. Then they're going to have to come back to the US and play and then probably leave like directly after. I don't know. That whole situation's fucked up for them. Yeah. That's going to be pretty tough on their players. So let's
talk about Friday's game real quick. US, we're going to, we're going to do a pick. PFT. I'm going to defer to you on, we're going to need some help on the pick. You know, we can come up with a part
“of what we're doing. We're playing the Aussies. Apparently they're fast. The soccer ruse. Are they fast?”
I did some advanced scouting on the Aussie. I also watched the game. Are you the one who told me they were fast? I've been telling people that they're fast. Okay. So where is that? Have you been telling people they're fast? And they're actually fast? Yeah. You've just been telling people they're fast. They're fast. Okay. Their fast comes down there. Okay. So I looked it up and they've got two guys up front that are that are both faster than anybody on Paraguay that we played. Okay. And then we've
got some defenders who might not be the speediest guys necessarily. But speed isn't everything but it can make a big difference because I think our strategy is going to be pretty similar to what we saw against Paraguay, which is just like fuck 'em up and press and attack and press, which also would make us susceptible to a good counter attack. Yeah. Which Paraguay didn't have, but I was really might have. Hey, are you getting into the soccer? I was in the Cape Verde. One of my best
“friends are going to have with Cape Verde in Corrupt with a lot, you know, big Cape Verde in community”
and in my hometown. So I was very happy for them. I'm getting a little bit a little bit. Okay. A little bit it's good. I like the fan stuff is great. The fan stuff is great. We talked about it last week, but that stuff makes me laugh. The Scottish people in Boston is very, very funny. Do you see the Scottish guys going down the slide? Yep. That was so bad. That was good. They outdrink they, the Boston said like they're running out of beer and it was three times more. I'll call it
drink then. These are my fan flavors. Yeah. Which is like that's insane. That isn't insane. By the way, I saw a stat because we loved dumb stats. This was as of Sunday. So I don't know if it's still
the case. But as of Sunday, Ivory Coast win over Ecuador was the first team in this world cup to win
while having less bird species in their opposition. Oh, fuck. Yeah. That's pretty big. No, that's true. Yeah. I was thinking about that when I was watching. It's you. When I say less, they have like 11 hundred less bird species in Ecuador. Yeah. So I was thinking about that. But then you also have the Galapagos Islands are doing a lot of lifting for those Ecuadorian species. That's probably like all the Finches. Yeah. Darwin knew. Good for us. We have a lot of bird species. We got a ton. So we have 11,
11,000, 167 bird species. Hell yeah. I did see that we're absolutely dominating South America. It's been a tough world cup for South America. Yeah. So far the United States, we, you know, we want our game. So we got three points. The entire continent as of right now of South America only is two points in the world cup. That's, that's bad. And everybody was saying like this might be a good world cup for the South Americans because they're used to the heat. This France game,
by the way, would crazy. Two goals in the extra in extra time. Three one France. Yeah. Fun game. Bop A still got it. Still 19 still got it. I don't know if that was him. Yeah, was what a fucking world class goal world class. Top shelf world class straight out the top. Top cheddar. Okay, draft Kings. Let's do our parlay this summer. The cup is taking over the US and only draft
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in seven days fifty dollars in predictions dollars issued weekly for three weeks expire in one year deemed one non withdrawable reward availability varies predictions offer void in New York and June 28 terms at dkng on co slash audio. What do we got? I'm kind of addicted to ties right now okay I'm just saying I'm being honest. I'm being honest. Hi. Hi. My name is pft. I'm addicted to ties. That's fair. Hi pft. It's so it's but they're so good. They're so good. They're so fun.
I got a goal score. Okay. And he's kind of a juicy goal score. Okay. I'll just say mine real quick over eight and a half corners. Okay. I like that. Mhm. Corners are fun to bet they are. I know that people are like oh that's so lame. No they're fun. I like you can get no goals but a lot of corners. I like Tillman to score. Okay. Malik Tillman. He had a bunch of chances and he should have had at least
“one if not two in the first game. And you have to win. And the U.S. to win. Okay. So Tillman is”
plus three 90 to score. Okay. Okay. I think that all that sounds good. I love that. All right. Well go bet on the draft king's app. And all right. Should we do? How to be like Wesley Snipes and New Jack City when I wake up on on Friday thinking about Deli? Mhm. Like going to have to kill you. Yeah. Sorry buddy. It's not it's not personal. It's just business. Yep. Um, hot sea cool throne. Rises by the way. The greatest candy ever. We have the new Rises lounge.
Here. Oh. Unbelievable. What have you guys been doing with the Rises lounge? What have you been getting into? I love. I mean, the Rises sticks. I think are the greatest candy ever made in the O. G. Rises. Like I love them. The Rises? Those are the options. I'm taking that. The new Rises Oreo are so good. The Rises animal crackers are the best thing I've ever had. I've recently come across them. It's impossible to put the bag down. Yep. Yep. What do you been getting into, PFT?
I like the the Marshmallow one and also the animal crackers are incredible. They're so good. They're
so good. Rises is the absolute goat. Rises listen. Rises with their peanut butter and chocolate combo. They're like the hurricanes. Everyone else is like the the the nights. Rises with their chocolate and peanut butter combo. They're like the nicks. Everyone else is the spurs right now. Can we all agree on that? That's just a fact. Uh, so go right now. Rises the official candy partner, a bar stool sports. Go get Rises wherever you shop. We love Rises. It's a dream come
true that we have a candy part. I mean, if you if you told us when you were 10 years old, hey, someday you're going to be in a job where you have an official candy partnership. Okay, sign me up and jobs are awesome. And it's going to be Rises the goat candy. Yeah, I'm in. So go get Rises today. All right. Hank. My hot seat is Texas Tech. Yeah. They're credibility. We got to talk about it. They did a whole the the press conference that they did explaining
themselves after the Brennan source be uh verdict came out that he was going to be able to play.
Mm-hmm. Was a crazy watch like it. They was weirdly set up. They had the most powerful
people at the school. It was set up like, you know, how we would set up like a quick press conference. Very funny. Mm-hmm. And after all that, all the all the heat they took, all the the hoops. They went through to get this guy to be able to play. He uh announced that he's playing on entering the NFL's supplemental draft. I so I actually had a reverse item. My cool throne was the NCAA because we finally like, when we talked about this last week, there are no rules in the in the
NCAA anymore. There are no rules. But if there should be one rule, it's that you can't bet on your own team. Yeah. Like that's the one rule we should all agree like, hey, if if the sport is going to
“ever survive, we can't have that. So I'm happy that Brennan source news like, you know what?”
I should probably just refuse myself from this situation. It is a tough look for Texas Tech though. Well, it's crazy that Texas Tech and Brennan source be, I don't know, they were okay with it. I don't know who they talked to leading up to it. But it was almost like they were shocked that it was a universal opinion that this is very bad and shouldn't happen. And they're like, whoa,
We thought like, everyone would be cool with this.
the entire sport of college football has a big dial that says, like, this is fucked up and then
they keep turning it. And then they finally took it to a place where everybody in the crowd was like,
boo, they're like, okay, we'll bring it back just a little bit. Yeah. And that's that's the players can't bet on their own teams and still playing games. That was the one that was like, okay, we can we can't go that far. But it's good to know that that's where the line is. We don't cross it again. Again, there are no rules really. And there shouldn't, we shouldn't confuse that because it's not like the NCAA or any sort of governing body is making brim source be go to the NFL.
Right. Like that's source means choice. Yeah. So if somebody's going to try to do it again, yeah, at some point. But I think the next person that does will be like, maybe their school will say to them, hey, maybe let's not do this because everyone's going to hate us and not schedule against us. And it'll be a big, big thing that will have to spend a ton of money on lawyers for yeah. Source B jets. The news broke and I did see a guy riding a bike wearing a jet shirt like
“immediately. Who's so, so the rules for the supplemental draft is that it's basically you have to”
submit, it's a bidding war where you have to submit what you would give up next next year's draft and whoever has the highest pick that they give up would then get up. So you're, yep. So like
it would suck if you said, oh yeah, we'll give up a second round pick for them and then the next
highest was a fifth. You could have gotten them for a fourth. It's fascinating. It's your televised. Like a big game of poker. They should do like a, yeah, they should televised it with what was the briefcase game. Deal or no deal or no deal. It's interesting to think about though. Listen, he's, but the only problem is what if, what if you get source B and what if he shows you like just enough in year one, yeah, where you're like, I don't know. So we use the
first round pick on a quarterback. If he had a good year this year, Texas Tech, he was going to be a first rounder. So you could maybe get him at a very significant discount. Now was he really going to be like top of the line next year? If he, if he had a good year, yeah,
“I think, I think this year he would have been probably, people were saying that he would have been in”
that tie Simpson like zone of mid to late first, maybe slip to the second. I don't know with all the other stuff now and involved in it and teams having to put you, if you believe in his arm and you believe in his talent, again, you could potentially get like the deal of the century by getting them for a fifth round pick. Yeah. Memes. I think I would do it for like a fourth, maybe a third, but I think the jet's believe in Kgalamic. Oh, that's about as at least a backup.
If you're a drafting print source B, you're drafting as a backup. And that right there, folks, is exactly when the next championship parade ended. What do you mean that sentence? What do you think you believe in Kgalamic? And that was back to reality. Kgalamic is stud. Okay. What needs we got to have a combo? What? Running out for practice. Okay. There's a lot of so much videos. Yeah. It was you as a tough
watch at Klumsen. Well, it's coming here. Okay. Good job. Hotsie Kultran. I Kultran is me, Max. Really all the AWS. Mr. Bingbong is retired. So, finally, probably three years, two late, ran the bit into the ground. And then he decided after Sunday showed a retired. He checked the fuck up. He retired because he's a winner. Either way, it doesn't matter why he retired. I'm just happy
“that he did. That's what Team said about Michael Jordan too. We've told Jerry this many, and I love”
Jerry, and I disagree adamantly with your characterization of Mr. Bingbong. We do, how many shows we do here? 150? How many times do Mr. Bingbong on a year? Yeah. Probably like twice, three times. Jerry has a problem. And we've, PFC, I've talked to him about this. He's addicted reading the comments. And you can't read the comments. Because if you read the comments, you have one person say they speak for all AWS that Mr. Bingbong sucks, not realizing that 99.9% of our audience
never comments on anything. They're not on Twitter. They're not on Instagram. They're not in the
YouTube comment. They're nowhere. They just enjoy it and they go on with their life. Jerry hasn't figured that out yet. So, I hate that you, you killed Mr. Bingbong. I didn't kill him. He didn't tell you to. And Jerry got into his feelings a little bit. You did. It's a shame. You, you killed Mr. Bingbong. I didn't do really think that if the next, if they beat the Celtics in the playoffs next year, do you think that Jerry is just going to set that one out? He's going to be back. We'll get
Mr.
even worse look for him. And it was funny. And it was also funny. You, you go back and it was funny. Max, do you agree that you want Mr. Bingbong retired? I, Mr. Bingbong is funny. Yes. Mr. Bingbong is very funny. And he's also Tiffany Gomez's number one fan. What is she gonna do? He's gonna see one picture on Instagram and in Mr. Bing Bugs gonna be back. It's in his blood. You think he's just scrolling on Instagram? He sees her, he's just, oh, Oh, Ms. Oh,
Tiffany. Go on. The touch. If he sees the touch, he's back immediately. It's gonna be the shortest retirement you've ever seen. I would, I, I'm hoping that Mr. Bing Bugs retirement is is similar to a Brett Farver tournament where he's just, there's no shot that Mr. Bing Bugs retired. But the, put the haters like Hank are just so happy. Savvy, there's no shot. I didn't do anything. Yeah, he did. How? The look on Hank's face
when he heard the door. I was scared. I keep on the door banging on the door. I was like a safety thing. What do you mean a safety thing? Like, I, I, I, I didn't, you were scared? Yeah. Mr. Bing Bugs. I didn't know what was Mr. Bing Bugs. I didn't know who it was. I was like, it's someone gonna come in this office and like, it was Sunday night. No one else
“was here. Yeah. I was, I was a little scared. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. Jerry is, he, he's”
is going to be ashamed for a little bit because he got bullied by Hank. And he got bullied by like the smallest, smallest, tiniest fraction of our fans. He's going to be back. And they all just get into a, uh, a hive where they just, they're like, yeah, we do speak for everyone. No,
we don't. Million people listen to show. He's going to read like three comments. He's
going to be saying under his breath, Bing Bugs. Yeah. To, uh, to his wife and to his daughters. And they're going to be like, dad, you, you have to stop you're driving us insane. But like, okay, I better call the boys again. Yeah. He'll be back. He'll send us a voice message. That's an old notes, it's back. All right. You have to, your hot sea culture. Yeah, hot sea, um, I was actually going to talk about, uh, just having sex during the playoffs because of, uh,
of what James Don did for his team, does a great speech that he gave very, very proud of him. So I'll just say, uh, hot seat is going to be Thursday night plants. If you got any Thursday plans, watch the dozen live. We're doing our live show here in Chicago. There might be a couple tickets. There might be sold out by now. Um, but there's going to be a good final for there. And, uh, yeah, Brandon really, really wants everybody to watch him, uh, go for the repeat in the dozen,
which has never been done. It's going to mean a lot to Brandon. It's really Brandon's tournament.
Yeah. So if you like, Brandon Walker tune in. It's all he has. He's also, Brandon's been in the zone. He's been in by the zone. I mean, he's been like, extremely nervous and anxious and walking around with a lot of gas. And, uh, but that makes for a good trivia. Yeah. Because when he's, if he makes sense when Brandon's the most nervous, that's actually when he's the least. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. Good hot seas. Uh, and then my
cool throne is going to be, you know what? Fuck it. Let's talk football. Uh, Brandon and I youk. Yeah. Did you see what Brandon I use been posted online recently? I've seen a little bit of it. He's like dropping uh, the, like, the Google maps drop a pin location of where he's at. He's in northern Virginia right now. Okay. There's some speculation that the, the videos that he's dropping recently that have been weird videos have been from somebody on the commander's house. Whoa, that he might be
“staying with. I don't know that this is necessarily the best way for him to get released from the”
49. I think it's just one giant game of chicken where he's like, I'm just going to make your life hell. And I'm going to keep talking about how I'm going to get released from a team until you actually release me from a team. And the Niners are like, well, we don't have to until we have to. And we're hoping that somebody offers us at least like a late round pick for you. Yeah. I don't know that they're going to get anything for him because he is acting really string.
But I would be concerned, it seems like he's trying to force his way out of the commanders. That's what it looks like. If you're going to have one position that acts like this, having a wide receiver to do it is the one that you got to have. Yeah. So I'm okay with it. Yeah. Agreed. Okay. My hot seat is Elmo. Did you guys see that Elmo's head was put on a spike at a parade in New York with the words traitor under it? Watch it back Elmo. So Elmo before the
series said Elmo hopes both teams have fun and New York has turned on Elmo. Because Elmo's,
“he's, I think he lives in, or does he live in the upper west side or Brooklyn?”
I don't know where he is. Where is Sesame Street? It's somewhere around there. I don't know that it was a real street. Yeah. I don't know if it's Sesame Street is actually a real street, but it's clearly set in New York. He's a New Yorker. He also, let's just listen, Elmo's also three and a half years old. So let's not pick on him too much.
West Street is the third. Okay. So yeah. He's, uh, yeah. Elmo, you fucked up. You picked
The wrong side.
Okay. I love that cookie. Cookie, Cookie. More than I'm big bird.
“I haven't heard from Big Bird. He's probably a Yokech fan. Yeah. I think that,”
I think Elmo would have something to say about the hypothetical that we get on KSR today. Mm-hmm. Just tune in for that one. Yeah, dude. I'm telling you. The, the, the, the, the, the, the call that we got is must listen. Must listen tag on the call that we got from Andy. Mm-hmm. Kentucky Sports Radio. I like to also apologize to any members of the blind community for some of my remarks on Kentucky Sports Radio today. Yeah. I want to listen. I want to get ahead of that one.
We just became fast friends with the guy and we forgot some key details about him that he shared with us. Uh, my cool throne is PCA because he hit for the cycle and it was fucking awesome. He hit reverse cycle, home run triple double single. And then in perfect PCA fashion, I love PCA. He's, you know, my favorite cub. He's a superstar in the making, uh, just so good at, at everything and he's been on a tear. But in perfect PCA fashion because he is a
little bit of a lightning rod and people, uh, who do not roof for the cub's tend to hate PCA,
“which I love because I think it makes sports more fun. But he hit his single to hit for the”
cycle and then got picked off the very not even the next pitch just the next throw. Mm-hmm. It's like all that doesn't count. It's the first time it's ever been done. So it's, it was both the perfect PCA moment because he gives just enough red meat for the haters after hitting for a cycle, which is so fucking hard to do. Mm-hmm. And then also the perfect encapsulation of the 2026 cubs because there was a moment during the game, too, where his run could have been very,
very consequential in a one run late game. But the cubs ended up winning in a walkoff walk,
which is always electric walkoff walks are great. Yeah. Yeah. But it was just so funny that this
happened. But he's, he's awesome. He's been playing incredible baseball. Uh, Zach finishes off. Uh, my hot seat this week is going to be that 10 Bay Buckingeers. Uh, because today we did here back again from Baker update when it comes to the contract situation that they really have made in progress there. I know he's on the last year of it, the three year deal. Uh, as I just seem to get signed, they're like the team come together, they come together, get done. I know he said that
once the, once everything gets moving to shake and the number of negotiations are not going into the season talking about it, but plus I don't know. I heard maybe. Plus you.
“Okay. Yeah. What do you think about Baker saying that he wants to do the quarterback show?”
They've got the quarterback show this year. So it's going to be Baker. Was it Baker Joe Flacco, Jane Daniels, and I forget who the last one was going to be, but they've asked him to do it before and he said no. And then he changes mind this year. And with the contract thing, what do you think about that? Uh, I think maybe part of it could be there's like a lot of sight and stuff that was going on in his life. They may want
to document to you know that come together having the baby and everything like that. It could be Baker and football too. By the way, tune into that quarterback show because I'll just say right now, uh, you might see these faces on it. Nothing really special. They just asked permission to use a couple clips from the podcast. We weren't interviewed or anything. It's just very funny because I was like, oh, it was just like us just sitting, knowing exactly where we're at,
like a lead on a Sunday night. Uh, just being like Joe Flacco still lead. I love that. That's top analysis. Yeah. Uh, okay. You're cool through. Um, a cool thing this week is just going to be James Winston for his, uh, World Cup coverage as a correspondent with that Dutch end Japan game. Does he, he fully immersed in the cold drum both sides and he it was just awesome to see. Yeah. He's, he's absolutely just fully immersed. He's, he's kind of man anything. He touched
it just brings that much more energy. That's much more excitement. Yep. I agree. He's a man. Okay. Uh, good job Zach. Uh, we have Shane Bacon talking US open. Then we have Kentucky sports radio. Like I said, someone credible callers and also an interview with Will Stein, head coach of the Kentucky football team, who is in AWL, which we immediately liked him. Before we do that, PFT. Yeah. Before we get into all that, including Shane Bacon coming up next, he brought to you by our
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Course.
score is going to be this week at the U.S. Open? Let me ask you a question. Why are you asking me questions about a golf course that you've shot even par at? Shouldn't you be the one that's given us nuggets about Chinacock? I listen. I was lucky enough to play at once. It is the hardest place that I've ever seen. And I don't really understand how these guys do it. It's like, you know,
“I think people know that the 72, listen, you can get whatever you want on the score card. There”
are just so many times off the T-box where I would just be like, all right, I'm done with this hole. Like, I'm not going to go find this ball. This is impossible. And it's just the win. That's a
biggest thing. The win to me is always a story of Chinacock because for people who don't know the
course and don't know the area, there is nothing stopping the wind coming off the ocean there. It is there are no trees. It's just absolutely howling. Basically, at all times, like a 15, 20 mile an hour wind is like a non-windy day at Chinacock. It's, listen, people aren't going to love this, but Chinacock is what oakmont thinks it is in terms of a golf course. I mean, it is, this is the best host of the US open. I mean, this is a pinnacle of it. Obviously, a gust in the masters is the biggest
event in golf every year. I think a Chinacock US open is like 1B. In my opinion, I mean, it's crazy the US GA went so long between US opens out there, kind of returning to Chinacock in the 80s and then reminding itself how good this place is and how tough it is. And big cat, it's an interesting golf course because I think average golfers think about difficulty and they think about water or out of bounds, things like that. I mean, that's not really Chinacock. Sure, the rough is really
high and the hay is going to be high. It's a golf course that you theoretically could not lose a golf ball on and shoot your highest score. The fairways are bigger this year than it was back in 2018 when kept a one, but all those fairways are minimized because of the angles off the T's and really where you want to hit those T shots. You want to be on the left side of the fairway to a right whole occasion, things like that. But really, it's just everything. It's the triangular shapes of
kind of these conceptual small courses if you will like three four-hole stretches within Chinacock where you're playing all different types of wind directions within the three-hole stretch. It's just the perfect golf course for championship golf and I think people are going to walk away this week considering the forecast understanding that this is as tough as it gets in terms of pro golf. Yeah, the wind that house there, not only affects the ball in the air,
it's been affecting the balls on the green too. So can you tell us about that? Like how real is that that the putting is affected by the wind? Yeah, I mean, the interesting thing about that PFT is the fact that there are rumors that the greens aren't going to be as fast this week than what we typically see at a US open because of those expected winds. I'll get into that in a bit when I do my five things to focus on a Chinacock. I mean, the wind, when you play really fast
“greens, PFT, you have to hit put softly that the winds end up taking those balls. So you've got”
an eight footer that's a cup and a half out left and the winds blowing left to right. Now, all of a sudden, you're playing at three cups out because as it's dying, the wind is affecting the golf ball. I mean, you're going to see guys missputs by a wide margin. You're going to see guys put off greens this week. Like all of those things are in play because when it's blowing 25
30 miles per hour on these greens and the big cats point, there's no defense out there. It's basically
like being on a boat in a long island sound right now. That's kind of how remote if you will this golf course is. A lot of the greens are perched up. A lot of the t-boxes on the back nine are perched up. Like all of these things are factored into this golf course playing as stuff as it plays. But yeah, I mean, the wind's going to affect golf shots. Sure, but you'll see just as much of it being a factor when guys have six seven footers that move alive. The the the the the the quintessential
Chinacock that's that's burned in my my brain is Phil Nicholson being so frustrated that he had
“a moving ball, which I think we can all agree was the worst thing that Phil Nicholson has ever done.”
But that that's it. Like the greens will frustrate a guy like Phil Nicholson to the point where he's just so mad that he's he's essentially just morphs into an average or bad golfer who gets frustrated at the end of a hole. It's like, you know what? Just give me an eight. I don't care.
First line of his Wikipedia big cat. You think? Yeah, that is hitting the ball. That's going to
come on. I agree with you on that with they're going to have to develop a controversy section for his Wikipedia page after that one. Yeah, probably probably on there. Probably a few graphs long at this point. You know, I mean, I remember, you know, we were doing that 2018 US open. I was with Fox at the time and that was the first time that we'd kind of split the booths and it was me and Brad Fax and it was buck with Zinger and that was I think that was a Joe hole and Zinger's reaction
like the whole thing was crazy. Curtis didn't know what to say. Nobody really seen that before. Basically, that mental meltdown. But again, that's what golf courses do. I think something
Else to remember about 2018 is that the golf course at the Windsor Down is sc...
we've seen players go out there and post scores Tommy Fleetwood famously in 2018 shoots that
63 with a put on the last for 62. But if you remember on that Saturday, it was Daniel Berger and Tony Finale that went out early, finished like four hours before the leaders finished and they both shoot 66 and vault to the top of the leaderboard. If the winds are down, you can make birdies. I mean, you can even make eagles on the par five. So once those winds pick up, it is a two, three, four over as a good score type of golf course. So Shane, last time we talked to you were trying to qualify
for this US open. You had a tough, a tough go at on golf's longest day. I love that you, you got to the break of your 36 holes. You're like, I just got a shoot at a 59, like no big deal. I got this. But if you, so you're obviously a very good golfer to even get to that point. But then the levels of it to get all the way to pro are just another leap in bound. What would you shoot if you were playing
in the US open this week? I told my wife this morning when I was seeing videos that I said,
“I'm happy I didn't make it. That's basically what I said. I mean, I think it would have been”
awesome to be a part of it. But I'm happy I made it too. Yeah, I am too. I mean, I think I would have had a really difficult time if it's blowing 25 to break 85. Like, I think I would have been grinding my ass off to shoot in the mid 80s. I mean, I remember playing Aaron Hills years ago from all the way back. Somebody Brady, who's a bit of a psycho, was like, let's play it as far back as we can play it. Step off the back tease. And it was blowing 2030 with the high hay up at Aaron.
And I remember we were all struggling to break 90. I mean, the guys are good players as well. I mean, this championship golf, there's, there's no easy hole. There's no let up. There's no. I can take a break here, mentioning the parfives. Maybe the only one is a downhill
put down when parfive. If you get one of those either on the front of the back. But yeah, I mean,
a good player, you're going to see high numbers this week from some of the amateurs that qualified. I mean, I think there were five Jackson's that qualified. So we'll put one of the Jackson's out, like an 80, 87 and a half over under for a Jackson. Yeah, I like that bet. What? So, so talking about the golfers, are we worried at all about Scotty? Because he, he wanted to begin in the season in the MX. He hasn't won since. And this is all relatively speaking because he's been in a lot of
tournaments finished top five. But when Scotty has raised the bar on himself, where we expect him to win
“majors every year. And where is his game at? And is this a course that works for him?”
So two answers to that big cap. One is, am I worried about Scotty? I'd say a little bit. I think it's very easy to get to a US open than you like this that's tough and test every part of your game. And I think it's easy to go. Well, that plays into Scotty's hands. Scotty hasn't had that complete game this year. A couple of weeks ago on our scorecard show. I compared him to Jordan Speed and got a lot of pushback on that. The comparison was Jordan Speed this season has had a lot of
weeks where he's driven it well and the iron play has been been great, but the putter was off. And the next week, the putters there and the iron players there, but he drives a terrible. That's been what Scotty's run into this season after three straight years of like everything working and then finding the putter last year. This has been the year where we have started to see slide holes in the game that don't show up and everything else shows up. So yeah, I'm a little
bit worried about Scotty this week. I think you're going to go a lot of guys pick Scotty because the golf course is demanding and the wins are going to make this place difficult. I look at it the
“other way. I think that's going to expose the parts of Scotty's game that haven't quite been”
at that peak level that we've seen over the last three years. I don't like Scotty this week at Chinacog. I just again, I think we've seen a more frustrated this year. I think it's getting to them a little bit. And I think it's a golf course where if you're not driving it get great, you're going to get yourself in trouble. If the iron play isn't dialed in, you're going to make bogies. And if you're struggling inside a five feet like we've seen from Scotty this year,
you're inevitably going to start to lose strokes on these greens with the gas. So I don't like Scotty this week. I don't think this is the U.S. Open that Scotty wins. Even though that Sunday is going to be Scotty's 30th birthday for the career grand slam. And Father's Day. And Father's Day. New Father's. What do they call that when the plan is the scissor G? Yeah. It's like the universe is set up for Scotty Sheffler to win. But you're not much of a wise guy. That's okay.
Yeah. I think you're, you might be the only podcaster in the world that was the word scissor G. It's like, I think it's S-Y-Z-Y-G-Y. When every plan is in in a line with each other, I'm a big horse scope guy. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, sounds like something you, you sounds like something you propose to your significant other. And they say, no thank you on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, again, I think, listen Scotty,
who went in and he golfed, turned him in to be silly to say he can't do that. But I just don't see kind of those planets aligned and if you will for Scotty Sheffler this week. I, I, I look at some grinders. I look at some guys that don't mind making bogies. I look at some guys that understand
Going in that it's going to be brutally tough.
I think Brooks is a perfect example of that. A guy that embraces the elements versus getting frustrated by them. So I kind of look at that level of player and maybe a little less at a Scotty Sheffler who does seem to get frustrated when things aren't going his way on the golf course. How how concerned are you with Brooks's hand? I'm, I'm moderately concerned. I'm old, maybe a little higher than moderately. Again, he was playing really good golf in
Canada and then had to pull out the bummer for Brooks is the thing he struggled with this year as the putter and he was putty. He was literally in the field and Canada through two rounds with the putter and all of a sudden he has his hand and issue. He's obviously going to play this week. But you know,
you're, you're 90 percent. I just don't think that works at Shinnockock. You're 92 percent.
“I think everything's got to be clicking. Everything's got to be working. Anybody battle in”
a struggling with something is going to be exposed. I was, I was ready to pick Capca. Like I was excited about picking Capca as my winner and then the hand thing happens in Canada and I've had to kind of reassess and and rethink of where I think he falls. If you got to play 72 holes grinding every shot out and hitting out of the hay, occasionally. So who are you looking at this weekend? Who are the, the guys that you think can handle the setbacks, the frustrations and
use that to their advantage? Well, let me, let me roll through my five things to focus on, you know, I kind of like to put these together. I know the boys in the booth have had a really good last few days. The question is number five. Does the summer of New York continue? We're obviously
seen it already. This is a long island U.S. open. Vives are going to be really high from the
next fans. I mean, everybody going to be out there ready to rock excited about what's going on. Whether this week, by the way, really nice if you're watching, maybe not as nice if you're playing, you know, mid 70s, a little bit of breeze. I look at Cameron Young and Chris got her up as a couple of players kind of in that local area that would be popular picks to kind of keep the vives a rollin for the New York fellas. So look at that. Number four on my five things to focus on
is traffic. You're just going to get a lot of traffic tweeds, guys. Yeah, pair. Already happening, you know, Michael Kim was tweeting that a almost missed his practice around
“tea time. It's just going to be a thing that we're going to see a lot of. And I think it will roll”
into the week and as people talk about the traffic at how long it's taken Uber lines, things like that big part of any long island major championship or golf event. Yeah, it sucks. I remember when I went to the U.S. open in 2018, I was like, I was like, I was what we just gave up and we started walking to the course because we were staying at Airbnb, like, you know, 25 minute walkway. And I saw John Ram just like stuck in his little tiny car, trying to get through traffic. And I was like,
this, this is brutal. This guy's about to play in the U.S. Open and he's got to deal with this traffic. Yeah, good news is like stopped traffic at majors over the last few years has not been an issue for golfers. So hopefully everything will go according to plan. Number three is how windy will it really get. I mean, they're talking throughout the week. It was originally Thursday Friday Saturday. Now they're talking into Sunday, 25 to 30 mile per hour bus. Now, I mean, we talked about the golf course earlier,
almost unplayable. Greens are going to be slower. You're going to see some enormous numbers. Anything, you know, two, three overs going to be potentially low score of the day. You might see somebody go out there and black out and shoot two or three under par. But if those are the conditions, this is going to be an over par U.S. Open. You're going to see three, four, five, over win. Come Sunday. And if the forecast holds up, that will be the case. It's just going to be demanding across the board.
Not a lot of birdies, not a lot of good things, a lot of negative things are going to happen. Number two is
will the first time major winner at the U.S. Open trend continue? Five of the last seven U.S. Open
winners made at their first major win. Gary Woodland did in 2019, Bryson at Wingfoot, Rome, Fitzpatrick, Wyndham Clark, and JJ Spawn last year. Some of the names I'm kind of looking at to kind of fit that mold. Loudvigg's been playing really good golf, not able to close out golf tournaments as a blade. The question is, who is Loudvigg at this point? Is it going to be the guy that looks like the pro golf or is it going to be the guy that collects the trophies? I kind of almost leaning
a former not ladder right now with Loudvigg. I like him a lot, but trending in the other direction. Cam Jung, Fleetwood, Henley Burns. I like walking memen a lot this week with trajectory. Just
“hit it under the wind. I think this could be his major championship that he actually bucks that.”
And the number one we talked about at the Scotty slam. Get to be the biggest storyline. What happens on your birthday? What happens on Father's Day? So much perspective. Too much perspective. Some would say, come Sunday for Scotty. That's actually a good way to look at it. What about what about our guys? See who Kim has this course shape up for him. So see who is a guy PFT that likes to get aggressive. He wants to play aggressive golf and make a ton of birdies. As you've heard
me say already, not necessarily that week at Chinatown. Don't love see who because of that. I don't know if Siwu yet to this point in his career is the definitive grinder on the golf course. So I don't love Siwu. One trend I do like a saw this photo around on social today.
By the way, these things are, this is why golf is a bit ridiculous.
talking about it and you get into the tournament and none of it matters. But the last three champions at Chinatown for US Open all three were ranked 9th in the world, Corey Paven, for Tief Goose and Kepka and 2018, JJ Spawn currently ranked 9th in the world and play in good golf and coming off obviously a win at Oakmont last year. So if you like a dumb in consequential games and stats, you got them. Yeah, that's the entire premise of the show.
Yep, that's exactly what you like. So perfect. Now are you going to be, are there any like pin placements that you're going to be looking out for? Like what, what should we expect in terms of like a signature hole on this course with the tough pin location? I mean, 11 is probably the signature hole, short part three. If you remember in 2018, Kepka hit it over the green. That was one of my holes in 2018 and read it over the green before them and then hit the flag stick to keep it in play
and Kepka. If you remember chipped it into the bunker to get it up and down and make bogey,
“I think 11 is probably the signature Chinatown hole because it's a wedge or nine iron and it's”
probably the scariest shot on the golf course. 17 as well. I mean, you think about the par three on this golf course. 17 will be pivotal, not really anywhere to get close to, but coming on the stretch, you might have to make a birdie. 16's a par five that the wind helps. You can get to and too easily as your opportunity to make up a little bit of ground weight. I remember the whole location at 14 on that Saturday, whenever anybody was shooting a million was almost unplayable.
I mean, that's the thing the USJs got to think about is, do you want to embarrass everybody or do you want people to have a chance at potentially making a birdie or a par? And so I think the whole location's with the prediction, with the wind, probably not going to be as on the edge at least early on the week as what we typically see at a USJ. And what about the rough and the fest you? I know it does take a back seat to the wind and the other elements, but how are we
looking in terms of the high stuff? I mean, nasty, gnarly, thick, chip out, kind of stuff. Like,
wait, I mean, I'll always kind of the case here. Again, these fairways PFT are pretty wide.
Like, these are if you're a great golfer and controller golf ball, you are going to hit nine fairways, 10 fairies around at Shinnacock, right? You shouldn't miss it massively big around this golf course, considering what the golf course allows you, especially this season at this Shinnacock US Open. So the rough will be a factor around the green specifically, but
“driving the golf ball, I think will be important in terms of length. I think long guys can have”
an advantage here, but I don't think the rough is going to be as much of a talking point as maybe what you saw at Wingfoot in 2020. What about Tommy Fleetwood, who has been playing good golf? He actually has a course record here. Does he not? I think 663. How is that possible when everyone else was over par and he shot a 63 on this course? Yes, Sunday. I mean, he just again, when was down, he put it in the right spots, made a boatload of birdies, had a lot of good books. I mean,
Tommy Fleetwood is one of those guys that can't get on a heater. I think I said after that US Open, I'd pick him in 2026. It's nice. These played good the last couple of weeks, so I can at least lean a little bit deeper into that. I think Tommy Fleetwood, if he ever gets a major, it's going to be a US Open just with the way he plays. So I love Tommy this week. I think Tommy is near the top of my board in terms who I think is going to win this thing. He didn't play
great on Sunday in Canada. Don't think that matters. I think he's found something with the ball striking. The putter is still kind of hot or cold, but when it gets hot, Tommy puts himself in contention. So I like Tommy. I mean, I've seen Tommy put it together on this golf course in the
past, and I think Tommy has been circling this one on the calendar after basically last year with
the door championship. That might be my bet. Hank, what do you got? I know that you've got your own a few things. Yeah, per usual, the two main things I'm thinking about are the lefties. I got two in mind, and then the live golfers. I got two in mind. So I'm going to throw out the four names. Let me hear Hank. Did you attempt twin Thomas's? Nope. Oh, you you mentioned one of them walking naming, love him, and then campsmith. But please, please, please give me some positives for campsmith,
because he's my favorite golfer to root for to bet on. He played well at the PGA Championship. He's been playing well since he changed his coach. Could this be his week? Hank, I feel like your favorite golfer should be more of a heal. Like camps like the chillest dude in the world,
“camps should be Zach's favorite golfer. Like you need the guy that like you need to roll”
hat and his favorite golfer. But I like him a little bit. Again, driving is the least essential
part of this golf course. If camp can find fairways, he's going to have a chance. The way he put it a few weeks ago was really impressive. The fact that he showed life at a major championship was good. I think camp could come into this thing. And if there's ever a grinder, it's that guy, right? The fact that he could grind out rounds and play great or play even part golf. I think he's happy to do both ways. I think camp has found some level of interest in the game once again after
kind of a level last couple of years in the majors. And so yeah, I think camp, I don't think he's going to win necessarily. But I do see camp finish in top 25. And then left you eyes,
Bobby Mac, and then my new favorite, my new favorite left you to wash, uh, Su...
Oh, man. Dude, yellow morage, you drive's a great. I'm a big, you know, we had him on KFT last year, Hank. And he wins. He wins our second event of the year on TV and James Denys, who I do
corn fairy with, they're like, all right. That was a cool story. We'll never see this guy again.
And I mean, he's just been very, very consistent, gets to the PJ tour. And then he's been probably
“the best player from that corn fairy tour graduating class this year. I think it's a really good”
Sudarshan golf course that when he won on the KFT last year, it blew 25 the whole week of the Bahamas. And he was exceptional. Hit every fairway in that final round. So I think Sudarshan, if he gets out of his own way, which is obviously tough to do with these big events, these, you know, escalated championships. I think it's easy to let that intimidate you. But he doesn't seem like the type of player that gets massively intimidated by the circumstance. So I think Sudarshan,
I like the fact that you're into him. I think Sudarshan can have a good week. Well, that love that. With questions, Hank, which one is the 265 yard par three? Oh, Don, that's that's two. Well, two plays two can play up to 262 70 Scotty hit three would in the practice round the day. That's crazy. How long do you think they're going to make it during the actual tournament? They'll push it back probably one or two days. They'll probably move it up at T one or two days. But you'll see head covers.
I mean, you'll see three wits five wits seven wits on the hole for sure. That's absolutely crazy. And then
the, um, I, I noticed in the layout of the golf course, the very first hole. That's like one of the
“only holes that goes east to west, right? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, you'll like this PFT because I think you're”
a bit of just kind of like a guy that likes design and likes kind of history stuff. The way they put this golf towards together, you know, the old way of routing was like out and in, you know, so the front nine went out like St Andrews and the back nine came in. And then there was designers they did a bit of a loop where you'd play kind of around the golf course then maybe come into the golf course. This place has, it's a very interesting design. They're like triangular sections of the golf course
where you play three holes in all different wind directions. So you'll play one to your point, one shoot you out west. And then you kind of go up the fairway up into the wind potentially in the prevailing wind. Two goes a little bit of a similar direction. But the three comes to complete opposite ways. So you really face like, you've got to kind of control the, the ball moving both directions with all of the golf shots. I think when you lose historically at who's one here,
great ball strikers that aren't scared to hit draws and fades, dust and played awesome in 2018.
If you remember the first couple of rounds, dust and was in very much control was ball around that
time. So yeah, like once a pretty friendly handshake at this golf course, I know Tiger didn't have,
“wouldn't say that after they opening in 2018. I think you made triple on one. But you can hit a”
three wood or a drive and iron on one. Get in the fairway and have a wedge in. But then obviously, as we mentioned with two, that's when Chinnecock really begins. It is so funny looking back at the scores because, you know, Tommy Fleet would finish second in 2018, but like top, top 10 was was seven over par like that. It's insane to look at and Brooks won it, you know, one over par for the whole tournament. Shane, all right, do you have a long shot for us? Do you have someone that like, hey,
look, this guy probably isn't going to win, but maybe maybe sprinkle something on him because he could have the rounds of his life? Yeah, you know, I mean, I'll be honest with you, I really like JJ Spawn. I don't think he's necessarily the longest of shots, but I like JJ Spawn a little bit, Ryan Gerard. I think as a name, you could float out there to potentially grind out some solid rounds and have a good finish. Maybe something in the top 10. Harry Hall's another name. He's a player
that I just like in these conditions. I think he's excited about Aurora. He talked about it earlier. He said this U.S. Open feels more European than it does a United States championship because they'll win in the way that golf course reacts to those conditions. So he was kind of mentioned in some of those European players that maybe are a little bit more comfortable and very windy, you know, even pary type of scoring conditions. Henley is the name I like. As I mentioned,
walking, naming, saying burns. I think again, is a name. He's been playing some excellent golf played well with U.S. Open last year. Those are kind of the names I'm looking at. I like Patrick Greed. I think I say him every time I come on the show. But I just feel like Patrick Greed's one of those guys that, you know, when it gets tough and everybody else is falling apart, he gets kind of excited. So those are kind of some of the maybe not super story type of names I'm looking at.
Yeah, and Patrick Greed finished fourth last time I was at Shinnacok too. He played pretty right there, man. He was right in it. So that I mean, that we might have an and all live podium for hey, that would be special. What's the latest on the blueprint of the foundation of the acceptance of the memorandum of understanding of the plan between the live and the PGA? Any progress? Oh, it's just it's it's it's any day now. Like you know, it's common. I mean, it's been
it's been three years of potentially happening the next day, which in theory, like the rapture
Could happen tomorrow.
that they shake hands and everybody's together again. Yeah. You never know. And then do we have
any more insight actually as to like what is live still going to go through the end of the year this year? What is what are you hearing? That's that that's the latest. It does feel like that's going to happen. It feels like a lot of the reports of this being there last week and there's no tournament next week. It seems like they're really going to try to run this thing through the end of the year. I think the hope there is just to catch the eyeballs of somebody that might have an interest in
investing, whether it be a sponsor or a corporation or whatever the case may be, at least they can prove that they are going to finish out the year. I don't think they're going to cut it short. I think at least from what I've heard the end of the year is the most likely scenario. Okay. Okay, Shane, by the way, everyone watched the score card. Like I said, also last second, Father's Day gift. If you are listening to this and either you're if you're a woman listening and your husband needs a
“father's day gift if you're a kid and you're well, no, you have to be a small kid, right? You go to”
Amazon and buy Shane's book. It's a children's book. Yeah, you know, it's a good children's book. I have it in my house. I read it with my kids. My youngest is starting to he notices when I have golf on TV. He's like, oh, golf, golf. Usually get about three minutes where he washes with me and then he's on to something else. But yeah, go buy the book. Last question, rowback question,
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joggers, shorts, rowback dot com, promo code take Zach. You got some questions about U.S. Open. Hell, Shane, how are you doing today, man? Hey, Zach, did you move yet? I don't know. I'm moved. Yeah, but moving soon. Like, okay, let me know when you say, let me know when you say, I mean, when you're locked in, I got a friend of mine working on something for you. So let me know what you're done. I actually might be for all the boys, but you're going to get the first one.
Well, you, you, you, I don't know if you know the latest with, with Zach's moving, but he, uh,
“he's, he got a one bedroom apartment and he's thinking about keeping the studio life, putting his”
bed in the living room and having the one bedroom become his office gaming place. Can I, can I say this? Because, I mean, obviously, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a big fan of Zach and have
been since he joined the show. It's your place, do whatever you want with a man. You want to have
the bed in the kitchen, do it. You don't even need a bed. You can sleep on the floor for goodness say, I appreciate that vote of confidence, Shane means, boy, you know, like I say in a lot of square footage comments on, on set ups, but that was your life. Okay, go ahead, Zach. I was curious. I did have a quick golf question. As a man who is, you know, alumni of golf's biggest day, you're quite nice from the, from the T box. If there was a glitch in your game tomorrow, and you
could no longer hit the driver, where are we going? Like, if you woke up and it's like the driver's not an option anymore, you can't hit that the glitch is confirmed. Yeah, what, what, what club are we reaching for? I mean, a lot of people say through what I'd probably go my driving iron two iron is like my favorite club right now. I'm obsessed with it. I hit it a whole bunch. So I'd say probably that club like for the rest of my life. If it was like Mary F. Kill the clubs in your bag that's
not a driver, that'd probably be the Mary one. Yeah. Now, Zach, is this question specifically because we actually were lucky enough for a charity golf out into go play shore acres, which I think is the top 100 course in America, awesome, awesome place. Zach showed up. He had four clubs. What were your four clubs? Oh, yeah, I had four or five of putter and like an approach. Yeah, so he didn't have a driver. So, wait, you had a four iron, you had a four iron, a five iron sand wedge
in a putter? Yes, sir, which feels like some mainstays of any golfers bag. Man, I got to be honest, that you got to be the only guy that's ever pulled. You know, like the score of Gami's, yeah, you've got to be the only guy that's ever played a golf course with that at the combination. Yeah, that's nobody's ever played with a four or five sandwich putter ever. That's disheartening. I thought I kind of had a saw, like as far as like a full set goes, I thought I was kind of in the
decent spot. Yeah, the backbone to the club. One of your clubs of the same club. I know, but if
“one of the two doesn't do what you need to do, you can just forget about it and go to the other one”
kind of thought like start fresh, you know? Do you doubt, no, let me ask them, let me ask you a follow-up you're sorry to, sorry to ask you the questions. But did you, do you have a full set of clubs? Yeah, not on paper, not on paper. Hypothetically, we have a millian club. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? Not on paper, mean? Like, I have a foolish say with the bag. People say, like, on paper, I have a full set.
But you said not, you don't, you don't have one? No, not currently, like hypothetically, yes, I will, my bag will get the money. No, no, no, that's the same thing you just said. Hypothetically, it's the same thing as on paper. But both of these things don't make any sense. Shane, what he's trying to say is that he has access to so many golf clubs. Not only does it, not only do we have full sets here in the office by the simulator, but I have an old,
my old set sitting in my garage, which is a nice set because I got new one from Taylor made.
Hank has offered his old set.
Like, I've got an old set that he had Colton has, right? He could snap his fingers and have a full set
of very, very nice golf clubs in a matter of, like, less than an hour. Yeah. So on paper, he's got, he's got, he's got, he's got too many clubs. It's a fact. Do you have another question? Yeah, I guess I can follow that up. With this tournament coming up this weekend,
“is there a guy that you know isn't going to do it? That I should stay far away from?”
Like, a guy who's predicted maybe could, but you're like, he's guaranteeing that no, yeah, you know, I'll give you a call, more Cala. I don't think he's going to do it. I, he's been battling since the injury at the players has not been the same golfers. Popped up a couple of times with some solid finishes, but going back to that needing to be 100%, I don't think he's 100% right now. And if you're not 100% around this place,
it's just going to eat your dinner. So I don't, I'd say Colton is the guy in terms of that maybe top 15 ranking, but I don't think has a real chance of winning. It's a great answer. It's great to appreciate that, Shane. I got a question for you, as a guy that plays a decent amount of golf, I have a real problem. And it's time for me to admit it.
I've got a, I've got a big problem with losing clubs on the golf course. And it's always a wedge.
I lost one of Hank's club the other week. That course swallowed up my pitching wedge. I left one green side like two weeks ago, my 60 degrees. So I've just been hitting the 54.
“And so that, um, is there a tip that you have? How do, how do, how do I stop for getting my clubs?”
I got to be honest, the fellows are struggling with just golf club intake. Yeah. I mean, I got Zaskot four clubs, PFT's losing left and right. Where do you lead, you always lose them when you're around the green. I'm assuming, right? Yeah, you, yeah, green side typically. I would say you want to leave it in the, where the pen is and the cart, leave it in that direction. So when you're walking back to the cart, you inevitably have to walk over to buy it.
I try to leave it right outside the bunker. You just hit out of place it in your, in your exit path, if you will. Okay. That's good. Yeah. And also don't leave it in the rough. Like, if you leave it in the rough, it's got no chance. You're not going to see it. Put it on the fringe or on the green or whatever. Hey, big cat real quick. I got a question for you. Yeah. Um, I sent you the version of that children's book. Um, do I get a version of y'all's book?
Yeah, I'll read it. 100% signed version. When is it coming out? I'm excited. This is a great topic. This thing. It's coming out in mid August. So I'm excited about this. Yeah, you can pre-order now. But yeah, we'll send you one for sure. Absolutely. Okay. I'll Vinmo, you money for it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This was on the house. This was on the house. This one's on the house. Okay. All right. I'm just making sure. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about that.
Listen, I'm fully, I'll be transparent like a parent buying their, their kids, girls, cow cookies, so then get the prize. I will be purchasing a bunch myself and just like putting them in my basement. So I have some extras. I did the same thing with mine and I got to be honest. You give them away way faster. You know, because the last thing you're going to do is if somebody asks you about your book, that's at your house, you're going to say, yeah, here's the Amazon link.
You got to go into free one. Right. You can't be an asshole about that. Exactly. Yeah, anyone who comes to my house for the next five years is getting a book. That's, that's good. The people come to your house. No, you got kids. No, you got kids. No, you got kids. No, you got kids. No, you got kids. No, you don't come to my house. I think it comes to my house either. I think only Jerry O'Connell. Jerry stopped by one time. Yeah. Jerry did stop by and even by he was he had some language around my children that was not. He was a fly. Listen, he's open
anything. He's open to the world. He's open to the universe. Can I, can I, can I ask a sports question two before I go? Yeah. I've lived in the Northeast. I moved here in 21. My son is kind of grown up
living here, basically. He's like a Northeastern or I do whatever you call it. I want to
I want to like be a Nick's fan, but I feel like then I'm going to be labeled the bandwagoner because of this exact one. Well, but I feel like I've wanted to be one for the last couple of years because we live up here in my son is kind of into Jalen Bronson. Is that okay to be a Nick's fan or no? I think it's you, whatever your son picks for players is like just let him just follow because like, you know, kids are going to find their favorite players and okay. And yeah, I mean, listen,
this would be right. Just be like, hey, I wasn't rooting for them when they won the title, but now I am now you're getting in at back at the bottom, right? Right. I mean, you're the, everybody's, everybody's, nobody has a winner last time. Next season. Exactly. I don't recognize that. It's actually, you could just say that it's actually 54 years for you because you weren't, you weren't around for last year. Yeah. And also, you can just celebrate the parade. You can be a fan
of a parade this weekend. Parades can be awesome. Yeah, it's fun. Do do have a good parade. Um, I wonder how much this is going to affect this U.S. Open because obviously, I think a lot of people will probably be a little bit more involved in the festivities and maybe a little less about the golf.
“Maybe what is it? The parade Saturday? No, it's Thursday, but here's the thing about New York.”
There's a lot of people. It's a good point. They can go everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people in New York. It's pretty nuts that they can pack,
They can pack multiple events at the same time.
Absolutely. Yeah. You know, you're in or now, means a winner.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it means it means just lined up. He's happy, man. He gets to celebrate life's good. It's, it's actually, we're all on pins and needles to see how long memes, like sticks with a smile and a good affect because it's, it's not going to be. He says he's changed everything. There's no way. There's just no way. If the jets get killed in week one, he's going to want to kill all those vests. Yeah. So it's, it's just, it's tough. It's like Arizona making the final four and get
smoke on Michigan and it's like, what do you, how do you leave that? You know, you like, be about it.
“That you made the final four. You bummed out that they lost. I, can I say one more US open thing?”
I think Rory's got a chance to win as well. Yeah. I, I think the win plays into Rory's hands.
He was hitting this like bullet driver Riviera this year that we'd never really seen him hit
this before. And I think that comes out to play a lot this week. I really think Rory is top two or three pick if you're looking at like one of the favorites. Okay. Love it. Well Shane, you're the best. We appreciate you having on everyone. Check out the score card and have fun out in on Long Island. In Long Island. In Long Island. Inside Long Island. Yeah. In Long Island. Thanks, fellas. Appreciate you. Shane Baker is brought to you by Morgan and Morgan. You don't want to
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advertisement. Good morning, Kentucky. It is not match zones. It is part of my take. The part my take over a big cat here. PFT next to me. Good morning, Kentucky. All right. Let's start with Andy. Go ahead, Andy. Andy, what's up? Andy. Hey, what's up, guys? Andy. I got a question for you. Okay. I had called in and asked Matt and the guys, a little over a month ago a question, and it kind of took off and everybody wanted to talk about it, cause it was a weird,
but it would make you think. And Matt said something about you, that has might have mentioned it on your cell or whatever afterwards based on that. I'm not sure. Okay. But the question is,
“if you, if someone broke into your house in the middle of the night, and the only thing”
they did was hope you down for five minutes and tickle you. They didn't still nothing. They didn't assault you in any other way, didn't bother to pass anything. They just left. Would you report it in a cell? What, what would that conversation be like? Is this Grand Platter? Who's this? I don't I don't know why I wouldn't report it. I think I would be more freaked out by that. Andy, can I ask some questions before we get to the hypothetical?
Go for it. I went, where are you calling in from? I'm calling in from the here in Plastic County in Bronson, Kentucky. Okay. Nice. So Andy, is this your hypothetical or did you see it somewhere else? Is it Andy original? No, no. I can't wrap it this on my own. Okay. So this is Andy original. Now, so I'm happy to answer that part. My follow up to that is, has this happened to you, Andy?
It has not. I sit around and think of hypothetical questions all the time when I have just idle time or whatever. Yeah. And I, you know, kind of based on books that I read and when shows I listen to on television because I'm blind, but I just listen to them. I love that. Wait, wait. I have one other question, Andy, about the tickling thing. Are you, are you, are you very ticklish yourself?
No, what is another key? I'm not so much now. Okay. And Andy, is this something that you
“do? I just think of a thing to the next question. Is this something that you, you want to happen to you?”
Well, no, not, not in that respect. Now, it's a female, maybe. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know, Andy, listen, this three guys just talking here. We, yeah, we'd like to get tickled by hot chick, you know, big breast, maybe. I think Andy, I think that you might secretly want somebody to break into your house and tickle you. Deep down inside. Not in respect of that question. I'm just thinking, I wouldn't report it,
Myself because first of all, the police are not going to believe that.
your full of it. Uh, I, I think you, then you got to go to court. Then you got to go to court and testify against that person and just say, well, all they did was tickle me. Yeah, that would not be fun.
“Yeah, I think, um, I think it also depends on if you, at any point, got aroused. Because if you got”
aroused while you're being tickled by another man in your house, I think then you just never talk about it again.
Yeah, I'm not getting aroused. Well, you don't know. You haven't, like, there's, you know, the middle of the night, the terror part of this, you're being surprised. Like, listen, Andy, I'm with you. Like, I'm a straight man. Like, I, I probably wouldn't get aroused, but you also have never been in this situation. And you don't know, like, what could happen here? And so I, Andy, I have seen a lot of the pit. I've watched a lot of ER in my day. There's something called a
fear boner. And that's something that I would, I would be actually very, very scared of achieving at that point. Um, and if that happened, I would actually probably be more likely to
call the cops. Right. Because then I like, well, you, that's a salt now. Now, let's become a salt
because now I'm, I'm questioning myself. And now I'm in a bad place mentally. Yeah, like, did you make me a little gay? No, is that a salt? Yeah, because I wasn't before. Right. So it's like, somebody's got an answer for that. It's not going to be me. Right. Yeah, well, it is a salt with the legality part of it, where it's just the whole embarrassment of all they do, but typically. I got one more question about that. Are they, are they tying you down? And are
they using any instrument to tickle you? Or are we just talking fingers? I, I, I got that deep in the hypothetical of it. I don't. And are they saying Gucci Gucci goo? Well, they do it or is it silent? Oh, do they do a raspberry? Are they blowing on your tummy? And then also, what is your not ticklish at all? Right. That'd be kind of weird. That's probably where you get the voter. Yeah. All right. So Andy, do you have other hypotheticals for us? Also, people online are
“now saying that you want to be tickled? Can we just, we're just saying you do not want to be tickled?”
Correct. I hope, I hope this women and their volunteers. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll make that clear. It did seem to me like, it sounds like maybe you wouldn't hate it. Right. Like it may be, it'd be like, well, it's, oh, no, I hope I don't get tickled. Oh, so tickling me. Oh, there's somebody lurking outside the house. I really hope they don't come in. I'm all tied down. I'm very ticklish. It's a feather. That is not that much. Yeah. All right. So what,
what else you have for Sandy? Okay. So if you woke up tomorrow and put the neck, you're, you would only, you could have your seven-year-old voice or your seven-year-old body. But the other way, you would have your seven-year-old voice in your original body now for the next year or you would have your seven-year-old body. But you would have your normal voice. Which would you pick?
“Oh, that's a tough one. All right. And you're getting your same like brain no matter what, right?”
Yes, yes. Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that one. I think I'd have to go a seven-year-old voice. Oh, but think about how weird that would be. Yeah. Think about how weird to be if you had a seven-year-old, but pick up what you walk in, maybe your wife's at home, your separate out of the shower, and it's like, oh, whoops. We have a PFT. This is what we're, like, in terms of doing our jobs. We're podcasts. But if we just have to do, I think I'd have to go body and be like, hey, guys, we're not doing video anymore.
I gotta just keep doing my job and get through this year. I'll put it this way. My body right now isn't that different from my seven-year-old body. I'm not a tall man. I'm not a large man. I'm kind of used to that frame. But I do think that there might be something in the marketplace for a seven-year-old doing sports podcast. Seven-year-old body. Seven-year-old, like a seven-year-old voice. That's seven-year-old brain. This dumbest kids ever. Yeah, I can say they're on a coffee table in the basement. Yeah, but they used to talk about it.
I'll never have anyone see you on camera. Okay, good one. What else, Andy?
Okay. The other one is, it's there's three people. You can hit a button and fix it to where three people of your choosing can never tell a lie again. The rest of it will lie. It's with the three bay. Ooh. Good question. I feel like you'd have to go with these are tough ones. Sometimes a politician or something, right? I guess so. But till we really want to know the horrible truth. Yeah, and also, yeah, this is tough because when I pick my spouse, no, because then
when I say, "Oh, just white lies can be good." Is this shirt made me look fat?
Yeah, she's like, "No, you look fine.
Hmm. Hmm. I think I would, I would-- Oh, yep. Lebron. I mean, that's impossible. Lebron number one would be very funny. Because you'd have to tell us everything like exactly how he feels and wouldn't be able to say he predicted everything.
“I'd take Lebron one. What do you think about your son's game, Lebron?”
Yeah, where would you think he ranks in the NBA? Yes. I would like to know. Yeah, I mean, I think our dear good friend, Richard Petino. Yeah. Might be a good one. I'd be interested to see. We would have to know some some cold hard facts about. Yeah. I would like that as well. And then hmm, I don't know, Rick Petino,
that you've got to tell him a couple of years ago. I've met Rick Petino. He put my name in his book. Really? So I'd notice it. For the-- When I was 11, I was, I was gay. Wood's favorite collar. When I was 11 years old. And I met Petino and went back to the locker room, met Mr. God. He put that book's full court pressure. He wrote, "I'm on page 18." Because I tried to bed a bear with him when I was 11. That's awesome. That is pretty good. That's
incredible. And then my last one would be Matt Jones just so he could actually tell us where he's
going on vacation for once. Andy, you or a hypothetical master. I love that you just sit around thinking of them. We appreciate you calling in. Any thoughts on Kentucky Sports,
“basketball, football, overall? How you feel about Jay Bat just give it to us?”
Feel pretty good about the guy. I'm here in good things. Full work thanker. I wanted someone in there that's the younger than me. He's a year younger than me. He's a good fundraiser. We definitely need to start doing things in the right direction based getting ahead of the car. And as far as the basketball team, I was very pessimistic until we got to Montelovic. And I think that moved him up a few packs. And I'm not predicting the championship, but I would be happy with
an elite this year. Yeah, okay. I feel that she's actually really, really, I mean that was a huge
ad for you guys, especially late in the trip. I was calling for that guy in March. Yeah, he's an incredible
shooter. Yeah. Is there somebody in Kentucky that you would like to see step up and maybe contribute towards some of the fundraising for NIL that you think has been sitting on the sidelines for too long? Who's the way out there that we need to reach? Oh, that's a good question. It's not me. But I bet you know somebody. I bet there's somebody out there that can tuck you fans or like, you know what? I have heard there's one thing that Kentucky can do. And that's bring back the old
school Wildcat logo. Yeah, they could do that. It's an amazing logo. We have to, you're talking this to guys. Been playing since birth. That's a great point. That's a great deal. Andy, I apologize for that. I forgot about that, Andy. I forgot your hand up. That one's on me. It's a really good logo. Is anyone has anyone ever described to you the logo? I've heard about the logo. Have they described to you being like Andy, you would love this? Yeah, I heard it. It's kind of big.
Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. Andy, you're the best. Thank you so much for this call. This is like,
whenever we host this program, we always are hoping for calls like yours. So we really appreciate it.
Well, I appreciate it. Yeah. We host next year. Call back in. We love to talk to you again. No problem. Absolutely. All right. Thanks, Andy. Andy's the absolute man. That's something he does. I did do that one. Yeah. It's all right. But it's okay. That's fine. And she's like he's got a great sense of humor. She's thinking of hypothetically. I'm not. I'm not treating Andy any differently than I would any other call. That's facts. Yeah. And I do think that Andy does one. He's got like a sign outside of his house that says,
Hey, I leave my door unlocked and my feather primed. Body ready to be tickled. Yeah. All right. We're back. It is part of my take take over for KSR and Matt Jones on vacation. We now welcome on a very, very special guest at his head football coach of the Kentucky Wildcats. Will Stein? Coach. Can you hear us? Baked. I got you, man. I am a long time listener. I consider myself an AWL. Love you. Love PFT. Love Henry. I'm a part of the talk to you guys. I love that. I did not know
“that, but I love to hear that. So how? I mean, now I like that's the best thing you could ever do.”
Completely disarmed. Yeah. We're just going to, we're just going to keep praise on you later. You will get to everywhere. Yeah. You have the best easiest interview ever set up right now. Not that it was going to be hard before that. But how is, how's everything going? You got the job. It can talk you a few months ago. You got Springball done training camp coming up. How are you
Feeling top 25 recruiting class, which is the first time in a long time or ma...
talk you football. Feels like things are going in the right direction, but how's everything going
“from your perspective? Yeah. So far so good. I thought we had a really good spring. We got, you know,”
44 new people into our program in January, which was absolute craziness. You know, with the offensive corner at Oregon before and was doing through the playoff run with them. I'll also be in the head coach at Kentucky, which is something I don't recommend any new head coach to do. But was was fortunate enough to have three unbelievable seasons with Dan out there at Oregon. And now coming back home in my home state in Kentucky, where my dad played, which was really special to me,
and building this thing in a different way, which is was really fun, really exciting. Our guys have bought in and have done a great job so far. Yeah. I mean, this is a, it's an interesting situation that you're in as a guy that did play quarterback at Louisville. And now you're at Kentucky. I, you've said that you wanted to play at Kentucky when you were growing up. That was a school that you want to play football for. Just so that we can put big blue nation at ease. Do you bleed
blue or do you bleed red? I bleed blue for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we should prove that. Yeah. And then too. Yeah. We should prove that. Yeah. That's not that. Yeah. That's not going to prove that. But. Yeah. I mean, I, my, my dad played here in the early eighties and I grew up coming to Commonwealth Stadium, like every Saturday that the cats played here and would go to reparating on those, like Tuesday night, like nine P.M. tips. And yeah, we grew up at diehard Kentucky fan and one
to come here up until about three months before my senior year was done in high school and end up going to Louisville, which, you know, I can't say anything, you know, bad about my experience there as obviously really good. But it did feel so much at home to put the Kentucky colors back on in December. So far it up about this opportunity. So you mentioned, like, it's a unique way to build a team that you're going to have an opportunity. What is, what's going to be different
about how you're going to build this Kentucky teams and maybe what they've seen the past? Yeah. I mean, I think we're just aggressive and recruiting, you know, like, I think if you want to like get these great players, like you just, you got to wake them up in the morning, you got to put them the bed at night, like you got to constantly recruit. It is truly the life blood of our program. And the best teams I've been on, whether that's literally your high school football
or college football now had the best players. And so how do you do that? You got to be
“ultra aggressive. You have to develop real relationships with these players. And in the age of”
NIL and portal where money does matter, it still goes back to just building these relationships with the players with their families, with their agents now, with their coaches, everybody in their circle to where when they come on your campus, 23, 4, 5 times they feel at home. And then really the deal comes in after that. So we're fishing with the big fish, you know, and not sitting back and waiting. Yeah. So as you know, coach and people were listening and maybe don't know our
program, we, we judge acronyms, we judge things. You could tell a lot about a coach, depending on what their sayings are, you know, this is the Maddie Brabba Bears fan, Maddie Braflus had the hits, which I knew right away. So stupid because I didn't pretty sure the T in it was was the ball, which made no sense. But you have a saying that I have to say, I'm a tip my cap. I believe in it. It's feed the studs. Can you explain up to us what feed the studs means on a day-to-day basis?
Yeah, for sure. I mean, ultimately it means like players win games. You know, we have great
scheme. I pride myself on having a great offense, great defense, great special teams now. Everybody runs inside zone and four verticals, but it looks a lot better when you got good players doing it. So that's our job is to get our best players the ball as many times as possible. So it's not just like wide outs and running backs. To me, it's like we got a big left tackle named Lance Hurt. I'm so fired up to have on our team and how do we get him out in space? You know,
how do we get our defense plan relentless on that side of the ball with great pressure packages and allowing the best rushers to rush the passers and not just clicking out and covering every single time. So it's really just a mantra with a mindset more than anything like get our guys the ball, get our players in positions to make plays. Yeah, because you, I mean, we do do do do something similar here at Barstool HQ in Chicago where on Sundays we feed our studs
and that's just us getting like probably about $1,000 worth of takeout and eat throughout all of NFL Sundays. So we're in on feed the stud. Ice cream machine. Do you have ice cream machine in the field? We don't. I just got like a margarine in a machine at home though, which is pretty
“okay. I definitely recommend that. Yeah. But no, I mean, what's the, what's the order for the guys?”
Is it like we just go in straight like Buffalo wild wings? Oh, no, no. It's every, it's, it's basically,
You know, if you're, if you are coaching a football game and you're, and you'...
leaning on them and the run game wearing them down, that's what we do with our food game. So it's like somewhere around 11 noon kickoff central time. 11 30, they'll probably be wings just like a hundred wings. Then around one o'clock, there'll be some type of cheese steak or something like that sandwiches. Then we'll hit them with the pizza when they're not expecting it. That's about two o'clock, two thirty. And then we'll come over the top around five o'clock with some Chinese food.
And that's pretty much every Sunday. There's also one important step before the fourth quarter of the opening games on NFL Sunday, you know, you, you might put your fours up. I go to the ice screen machine. That's when I restocked. That's when I get some dairy and me for health for energy. And you burn that fat off in the fourth quarter. Feed the stuff. Yeah, when everybody else sitting down, I get an energy boost right there. Is there like a fourth quarter song? Is like
jump around? Do we have anything going on? No, I got two cranks. I just got, we just came in possession of two different cranks. One from a MLS team and then one from the Bradley Braves the Siren. So we're going to start doing Sirens in the office. We're going to start cranking
“into Kentucky. Have anything like that before the game? Well, that's what I'm in the mix of”
working through with our marketing team is like, how do we get this thing like rocking? So I got
I got a couple ideas for a walk out song, you know, you know, you know, third down. I'm thinking
like the purged Siren. You guys know that one? Oh, yeah. I like that kind of creepy, you know, something different. So I, you know, whenever people ask me that, I just like word vomit, what I'm thinking, and then our marketing team is probably right now just like going crazy, like pissed off, and I'm just putting all this stuff out there. It's kind of funny. Yeah. Coach, we ask every guest that we have on our show and on Kentucky Sports Radio this question,
if somebody broke into your house in the middle of the night and you were asleep and they held you down and tickled you for hours. No, five minutes, five minutes and then left. Would you call the police? Would you report it? Didn't do any other, any harm or anything else? Just tickle. Just tickled you five minutes. Got up and left. Just walked away.
“Would you call the police? I mean, I don't know if it'd be like an initial call. I think about a”
half the report that person would be a little creepy, but listen, you're first time that coach,
I'm just want to jump in and do some PR 101 for you here. Can you imagine the headlines that would come out the next day after you fell that police report can tuck you head football coach held down and tickled in the middle of the night. No injuries called the cops. Yeah, I'd be a little soft. Yeah, I think you can't call. Okay. All right. Yeah, I can pivot. I can pivot. Yeah, you got it. I have a growth. Growth mindset right now and I'll fix that thought.
I love that. That's going to get to no cops being called. I think your mentality should be like if somebody breaks in our, we don't, we don't feel pressure. We apply it. You got to tickle that guy first, tickled back. Yeah, tickled back. Oh, tickled back. Coach, are you? Are you going to continue the tradition, which I was just made aware of today of Dan Lening taking off his shirt
before third down period every single week, every single practice that you guys did that?
Are you going to start doing that? What is that? Why did you do that? You know, I think it just started when it was cold outside and it was kind of his deal of like, hey, it doesn't matter. I'm taking my shirt off. Like you guys can act cold and have your hands in your pocket. I'm not. You know, I'm like, I'm not the guy that's like how tough can I be in like brave the weather. I'm like, if it's cold, I'm going to put a jacket on, you know, if it's raining,
I come up put a rain jacket on. I mean, you'd call me solving, call me the tickle guy, whatever, but you're like, you know, I let Dan do that. I feel like if I do that and that goes on social media, I mean, that's like it's such like a copycat deal. Yeah, it's great because one of our managers kind of have your set kid. He was awesome. Mitch shut up, Mitch. He'd rip off his shirt too. So it was like Dan versus Mitch and this like shirt off contest on third down period and it was a lot of fun.
I do love that. Also, by the way, Coach, you don't have to tell us that, you know, you're a little soft. You literally just told us two minutes ago, you called the cops. If you got tickled for five minutes. Come on, that's crazy. That's right. What do I think? Golly. Also, Shadow Mitch, catching some strays on Kentucky Sports Radio this morning. No, I mean,
“but you need to say that part because it was obviously like part of the whole thing. But yeah,”
that's that's very funny that he would take off his shirt like that. I think he was just trying to show off his tattoos. Yeah, he doesn't have a lot of tattoos. I mean, not just his wife's face, but, you know, he would like, he'd get some tattoos for, like, recruits. You know, they can make he's like, I'm getting a tattoo of your names. So he's got like names plastered all across the body of just like the core and more and all this stuff. It's hilarious. Coach, Kentucky, is it a football
school or is it a basketball school? All right, I'm going to ask you this first PFT, JMU,
Women's lacrosse school or football school.
see it first fan the second half that I thought I did. I saw JMU and then I'm going to ask you big
cat was constant women's hockey school or football school. Oh, women's hockey, we have a dynasty going where the where the greatest ever do it. Nine of clubs. Yeah, no, listen, I'm I'm in the mindset
“like, I'm honestly the football coach. I want this to be the most elite program in the country.”
So that's my mindset. And I'm the biggest Kentucky basketball fan, too. Like talking about growing up a UK basketball fan. He just got a tubby Smith basketball camp and play against like Tashon, friends, and keep boggins and all these great players. And we come to the UK football camp and see great players as well. Tim couch, chair, the rins and just the name of few. So I'm in the mindset, especially with our new athletic director, Jay bat, like, I can't really be good at both.
You know, so I'm fired up to watch Kentucky basketball play, but I know one thing. We play our
first game, September 5th. I think it's like 79 days out if I'm right. So I'm fired about
fired up about big lunatian being there and having an awesome season. Have you heard about the SEC coaches group chat that goes down? Yeah, I'm in it. You're in it now. Oh, no, we're not talking about that one. We're talking about the one with Lane and Kirby. The one with things get a little extra one. Oh, I have. Okay, different chat. Yeah. The one that you're in, you're talking about the one with the commissioner and it's like just a way to immediately let every coach know
official SEC news. Yeah. We're talking about the one with Lane where there's gifts and there's images and some questionable emojis that get tossed out every now and again. I've heard about some chats that that are out there. You know, I may have seen a few chats myself, but yeah, I think there's some, you know, guys have a good time. Yeah, you're gonna have any group chats. I mean, it's like the group chats and my buddies back home and they can get a little bit outrageous. Yeah, you're gonna
have to earn your stripes so because we asked Lane when we were at it. There's no doubt. In Baton Rouge, he said he wouldn't let a first year head coach. As far as we know right now, it's it's, uh, Sark, Kirby, Lane, and then Drinkwitz. I think Drink is in it. Yeah, I think he can, he can firm that to us.
“So, do you have to go like, do yoga with them first? Like, are you guys in a chat now? It's like,”
we are. We are in a group chat to different group chat, not to brag. Um, but yeah, I would actually highly recommend doing yoga early in the morning with Lane Kiffin. It's a great way to wake up. Mm-hmm. How was it? Was it like the intense cardio? Yeah, it was just like a stretch. It was CrossFit. We had weights. Oh, damn. Yeah. And he had stuff. And Lane looked at Zack and said, he's done that many fast-witch muscles. I was like, you didn't have to have us come to yoga to
figure that out. Wait, we could have just reached on the phone. Then they screamed at us when we
left for him to get one. I tell like, isn't amazing. Like a five pound weight feels like
off 45 pounds and on. Well, yeah, well, here's the trick. So, they told us to get like, I think it's to get some 20 pound weights. And we went back to the weight rack and the 15 pounders looked exactly like the 20 pounders. So we said, yeah, we just grabbed those. I yelled to the boys. I was like, okay, don't grab 20s. No, no, absolutely not. And then how good it feels when you open up that door when it's all done? I mean, the best, the best sounds like you're high yoga. It is like on the best
feelings. Yeah, I've done it before. Like, I know Piazza, you lived in Austin, right? I lived in Austin, did that like core power yoga. My girlfriend at the time now, wife, like, we would go,
“I think we got like a month subscription or something or membership. And I felt like I was literally”
just going to pass out every single time and just started it. And then there's people in my left and the right doing like headstands and some crazy stuff. I'm like, that was it's possible. And then you walk outside into the Austin heat and you get no relief whatsoever for the heat that you were just saying. Exactly. A second ago, I was looking at your resume. It is kind of interesting because you went from Texas. You were very coached strong. And then you went to coach at Lake
Travis High School. What was that like because someone say that Lake Travis is, you know, they kind of run their football program, more like a college program than a lot of schools across the country. But what was it like coaching high school then? It was awesome. You know, I've been in college football for five years. It was like a quality control and just really wanted to get my hands-on call in plays. And so the Lake Travis job opened up and I spent one year with Tom
Herman in his first season at Texas. And then I was like, you know, let me go, I want to try this myself. So I interviewed Ford and got the job and a kid named Hudson Carb was my quarterback. And then I had some receiver named Garrett Wilson. But for you guys know, he was my wide-out. And so I mean, it was like crazy, you know, designing plays and things were Garrett who absolutely dominated high school competition. And we, we had a blast. You know, I learned a lot, I learned how to call play,
I learned how to, you know, be in a program like Lake Travis that had six-day championships up to that point and really, you know, and gross myself into their culture and try to lead a group of, of men that had been in that program coaching for, you know, 15 years. So I enjoyed it. I loved it. It allowed me to stay in Austin for two more years and, you know, getting married during that time.
So I would never take it back being a high school coaching Texas.
Yeah. I, I, I did not realize that you, that you work for Coach Herman when you're at Texas too. As a quality control guy, how instrumental were you in terms of hanging up the long-horn football hydration charts above every urinal? I don't know if that was really responsible for those. But it's funny how that hydration chart and like got throughout all of college football. Like you could go in facilities across America and they have these like, you know, intense hydration charts and
basically call you every name in the book as, as dehydrated as you come. So it's funny man.
“I think you guys should get one in your office. You know, we were all bad guys. We were the,”
the last one on the list. Yeah. And I remember the, the second to lowest was blatant disregard for your teammates. You were headed to Area 51. What was Area 51 for having dark urine? It was like the, you know, where the injured guys would go, that were trying to get back on the field. And, you know, they made it to where it was like complete hell going to Area 51. Like if you had a spring ankle, you'd go over there and do like 1,000 bicep curls, you know, like you could even fill
your arms anymore. So it was kind of the spot that would make you not want to be injured to get back on the field as fast as possible. Gotcha. Coach, we really appreciate you joining us now that we know that your listener will have to have you on part of my take as well. Anytime you're in Chicago,
“but best of luck, we are rooting for you. That's literally all it takes is if you say that you like us,”
we are now going to be rooting for you forever. So thank you so much for joining us and, you know, let's go, let's go win the SEC this year. Let's do it. Why not? Why not? I appreciate you big cat PFT. Thanks for having me on. All right. Thanks so much, thank you. Oh, Shannon, who do we have on? Let's go to Matt. Matt. Hey, guys, it's a honor to be getting to talk to you guys. I'm a big fan. Love you, friend. Thank you, Matt. Um, I'm a barefooted out my garden. Just got done,
met a Titan and beautiful. How many Kentucky up in a holler? And I got two questions. Do you know why they call it a holler? I don't know. You can holler all you want. Nobody going here. You.
Oh, I like that. That's good. That's good. Okay. And the second one is, uh, which before we got
me on, you know, we were unranked. Can you name the five teams that started this season of unranked and won the national championship? Oh boy. Oh, I don't, I don't know that I could. Um, give me, give me a couple of years like decades. There's probably going to be some of the 80s. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Two and the 80s. You got. Oh, no one villain over. Yep. Villanova. Yep. Yep. In C state. Kansas. Okay. Oh, Kansas. Okay. Um, Syracuse. Okay. The, the, the, the Carmelo. Yeah. Order. Yep. Yep.
Order. The first year when they, uh, did the back to back? Yep. You know, in 11. And you can't. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Or was it, was it 10 hurlies? You counted 23. No. No, it was, uh, it was that. Ali's. Yeah. The Ali's. All right. So Matt, um, did you, now you said, is it Heineman or Heineman? Heineman, H-I-N-D, A-M. Heineman Kentucky. Okay. That can't be Kentucky. What's, what's going on there? So you're, so you're barefoot in your,
“you ever step on like a fire answer or anything? You worried about that?”
No, my garden is like my, it's my paradise. I take such good care of it. I can walk around in this thing, barefoot. I teal. I'll die alone, barefoot. I love it. I love it. What do you ever? Have you ever just took your shoes off and, and just just walk around in the grass? Yeah. That's feel good. Yeah. It's best to get you grounded to start today. Do you, uh, what do you grow out there? Yeah. Oh, I got sweet potatoes. I got you cones. I got, I got Romaine lettuce. I've got, um,
onions. I just picked about eight heads of onions. Um, I've got a cabbage, green, uh, green beans. I've got peas. I mean, I've got anything. All kinds of tomatoes. I was, uh, I was raised to grow a garden. I love that. I love that. So, so Heinleman only has 700 people. Like, have you lived
there your whole life? No, I grew up in Hazard. Hazard Kentucky. Okay, um, but, um, but we've always had this
Proud, it's, this is like my, my parents home place.
them. And, uh, and it's just, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, supported. I can just do whatever I want,
“and nobody bothers me. And I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm looking”
at it right now. So, I'm in right now. And it's, uh, it, it looks like a perfect little appellation town. So that's beautiful. Tell me about the, uh, gingerbread festival you all got there. Yeah, uh, well, you know, we had a couple of floods here. Um, we're getting back to normal now, but, um, it really, it really, uh, life just out there for a while. Um, I, I was actually trapped him up in my holler for seven days, uh, couldn't get out. Uh, when we had that
flood, but, um, but the gingerbread is awesome. Gingerbread is up. The blooming onions, the gingerbread, oh, so good. We usually have some good music, the bluegrass music, you know, everybody's friendly. It's nice. I love that. I love that. Well, thank you so much, Matt, for the call. Great talking to you. And, uh, sounds like you got that garden. It sounds like paradise, like you said. It does have fun in the holler. All right. Thank you, uh, Kentucky sports ready was brought to you
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weeks ago, you laughed that it's hard for McGregor to stay motivated to get his face punched in while getting a blow job on his mega yacht. With all the success of the podcast has had,
“do you ever have times where it's hard to stay hungry and if so, how do you deal with it?”
I was going to say, "Wit, I'm always hungry." There's a lot of differences between this podcast
and cognitive abrater. I'll put it that way. He also, I would say, he's also no end goal. podcast is just for fun. It's all we were trying to, there's no championship or belt to be won. Yeah, he also has, I would say, a very large amount of money that's more than what we have. I would imagine. But, no, I think the, the big difference is, too, is that like in the fight game, the training and everything goes involved involved with it and then you're fighting what once a year,
maybe twice a year. With the podcast, we podcast three times a week. Like, I don't want to put out a bad product. I want to, I take personal pride in it. So the, the hunger comes from more like, "I don't want to be washed." For us, the training is the product. Yeah. If that makes your practice is the product. I do think that a big difference is like, kind of a Gregor, he was the goat. Like in his division, nobody was touching for a while. He's still as the opportunity to get back
into the country. Yeah, it's so, so for us, we know that we're never going to be at the tennis
podcast. So we don't, we don't ever have that feeling like we've achieved everything. I also will say that we have definitely done a better job overall, like the first couple years. It was, there was no breaks whatsoever. We're doing, we're mixing in a couple here. Yeah. We've done a good job of that. Wouldn't you agree, Hank? Definitely. Yeah. What's up boys? Me and my buddy are 10 episodes into starting our podcast and all looking for
plug, but it was just curious if you guys have any tips about growing the pod. I'm 31, huge, 8 WL, you boys inspire me to start this thing up. Any tips would be awesome. I'm trying to get sued. Yeah, I was going to say I actually wrote a chapter in the part of my take book, go buy it on Amazon. It's out in August. You can pre-order now. I'll pre-orders very appreciated. I think it was the title of the chapter was for keys to starting a podcast. And one of them was getting sued.
“Getting sued isn't the best way. Yeah. All press is good press. The other was, I think one of the”
others, I'm not going to give away the whole book. The other, one of the other ones was have someone on who says Adam Morrison has an apocalypse bunker. That was a big help. It was a really big help. I said be so smart that you get everything right or be so dumb that you get literally everything wrong. Those are the two best ways to go. When people ask me this, my answer is usually the same
It's not, it's a boring answer, but I think it's also one that is not, I'm no...
correct answer because it's not like I know everything about everything, but the key to it in my eyes
“is dependability. You have to say if we're doing the podcast three times a week, we do it three times”
a week every week, no days off, like you have to deliver for the fans. You can't be like, oh, you know, all there's no sports talk about Friday. We're not going to have a show or oh, we're, you know, not feeling well. Like you just have to do it because to be successful in this world, you have to become part of people's routines and be dependable for people to be like, okay,
on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I open up my phone and part of my take is there. And the first time
you stop doing that, people then break the routine and go find something else. So that would be my biggest, the easiest way to clear the smallest bars to just be there and do it over and over. And even if you get discouraged right away, you got to keep going because that's, that's what gets the audience. Good answer. All right, well, I know this one. Hi big cat, P.M.T. Haterhank and married Max. Now that names as a winner, who is the biggest loser on the
“pod now? I think it's a pretty easy answer. Oh, let's do playoff drugs. Have you made the”
playoffs this year? Yeah, in multiples for it's Max. Yes, in multiples for it's Zack. Yes, I have
actually my answer is yes and every sport, but P.T. Haterhank, that's six. That's two out of four.
Yes, I have you. If the season in today, the Nats would be tied for the wild card. Okay, that's all. Yeah, such a good. PFT came up to me today and he was like, hey Max, congrats on being tied in the wild card. And I'm like, I'm just not tied in the wild card. I'm firmly in the wild card. And then I was like, but the nationals are tied in the wild card with three other teams. And then he was like, he was like, well, if the playoff sends it today,
we both be wild card. That's also not true. Yeah, we wild card. No, he came over to me, tried to dunk on me that the Nats were tied to me. I was trying to congratulate them. I came in half back of the facilities, not tied with that. I came over to congratulate you on making the wild card. No, you tried to come over and dunk on me for the Nats are the same record. And not true. Which they do not. Not true. I could. I was trying to congratulate my friend
on having a wild card team. That's the last time I'll do that. Noted. Got it. Message received, Max, loud and clear. I've learned my lesson. I won't be so nice in the future. So I think that is at the answer. Yeah, the answer you were like, you were just asking me if the Nats, if the playoff, if the season ended today. No, no, I said, I'd have a playoff in the And the answer to that is yes made the blast would be in your answer was a hypothetical answer, which right now is the answer
I think the pot shows how much of a little has your right curve of the nation's
“So don't play off now you're the one who said that's what defines yeah winning what making the play off”
Well, it's a good end of camera. Who's the biggest loser? It means you lose the most our teams win enough to release make the playoffs Okay You guys just lose and everything get your hits. We did rings and I would be the loser because I have the longest drought When was your last 2016? Yeah, I would say like losing on the biggest stages might make you more of a lot. Oh the biggest loser. Yeah, was the question? Biggest loser
Yeah, that's what I'm saying like yeah, you lost live Last live not yet lost the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm listen to daddy Yankee got good a golf than switched lost that I mean if if getting the Super Bowl losing makes me a big the biggest loser. I'm fine with that You made us lose Mr. Bingbong. I did not he just quit. Quitter That's fine. Hey get your get your hits and now get your little truck was a good again early. Yeah get your truck was a nine
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“I mean it's a appreciate it. Yeah, you're good guy memes. Thanks man”
I'll see my boys succeed happy birthday to
a mark. I hate that me yeah little bro and me. Yeah. He just a little bro the fuck
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