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both terror and boredom.

It's something lots of us might buy when we have to and then hope to never have to think

about again. But that is not how Frank Serowski thinks about it. Frank learned about the wonders of insurance early on. My first foray into insurance as a concept was when I was in fourth grade and I accidentally burned down my bedroom.

What? I had a little candle that was in a plastic container and I woke up to the wall on fire, smoke everywhere and I was like, oh, what do I do? Frank runs down the hall to the bathroom to grab the first vessel he can find, which turns out to be a tiny toy bucket.

So I'm filming this bucket and I'm running back and forth with my bedroom, but the smoke

“detector goes off, now the whole family's away, what's going on?”

Frank's parents help him put the fire out. And when the literal smoke clears, Frank can tell it's done a lot of damage. It seems like he might be in big trouble, except that it's not how things go. Because of what his dad does next. What I saw my dad do was like magic.

Frank's dad's magic trick was that he filed a claim with his insurance company. I didn't get in trouble for burning down my room because insurance was going to pay for it all. So he got insurance to repaint the entire house, he got new carpet and all the bedrooms. He turned our crappy Macintosh into a gateway computer, which that was like a Cadillac.

And so that's when I was like, oh, insurance, this is genius.

So by the time Frank had his own first kid in his late 20s and a friend suggested it

might be time to get his first life insurance policy, he was immediately open to the idea. He understood the basic economics of life insurance, the idea that these companies collect

“payments from a big pool of people and only some die younger than expected and get big”

payouts. So the company uses the people who live a long time to pay for the people who live a short time. And Frank's a numbers guy. So he started thinking about the question of life insurance like a math problem.

And when he looked at the difference between how much he'd pay every year over the 30-year term of the policy versus how much his family would get if he died, it actually seemed like kind of a steal. So I'm going to pay $608 a year and if something happens to me, a car wreck, anything.

They're going to pay a million.

I'm just like, I feel like they're idiots. All right, Frank signed on the dotted line. And after you had a couple more kids, he decided to do it again to take out another policy. Together they were worth $1.5 million. Not long after that, something happened that would cement Frank's belief that life insurance

was kind of the deal of a lifetime. He had a pretty bad cancer scare, got diagnosed with a rare kind of stage for lung cancer. Luckily Frank was able to get on a new drug that put his cancer into remission. But the whole thing made him grateful, he'd signed up for those policies when he was young in healthy.

And then one day, just over a year ago, Frank stumbled across a deal that added a new and enticing and potentially lucrative twist to what he knew life insurance could do. It was a Facebook post talking about this weird thing called a life settlement. What is this life settlement? Like, haven't heard of that?

That's new. Frank fires up the Google machine and learns that a life settlement is apparently a deal where you don't have to actually die to get some of your life insurance money. Basically, you sell your life insurance to somebody else. They give you a chunk of its value, like could be as low as $10 on the dollar or as much

as $70, then they take over paying the premiums and when you die, they get the full payout. Frank discovers there's actually this whole ecosystem of companies clamoring to buy up insurance policies. And some seem like they want to buy his. Yeah, it's an asset I didn't know I had, which was like, well, mind blowing.

And now Frank, being Frank, had a new set of calculations to make. Pretty collect some of his money now while he's alive or wait to get all of it when he's dead. Hello and welcome to Planet Money, I'm Alexi Horowitz-Gazzy, and I'm Vito Emanuel. The world of finance has filled with strange, niche ecosystems and obscure techniques for moving money through time and space, but this secondary market for life insurance was arguably

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Listen to All-Songs Considered every Tuesday in the NPR Music Podcast. The market that Frank Serowski stumbled into last year, this big, complicated secondary market for life insurance, it started out as a very simple deal made in a desperate situation. And then it started to mutate and mutate again, following the pull-of-profit down a familiar path.

You see, there's this theory of financial evolution that goes something like this. Somebody comes up with a financial tool to serve a real flesh and blood human need while turning a tidy profit.

“Like, needed by house, might we interest you in something called a mortgage?”

Whole industries then develop around these specific human needs as people realize it's a good way to make a buck. Using huge flows of capital to where there once was none. But then, someone else will recognize a new way to make an even bigger buck by tweaking that technology.

I'd say deploying it in a new market or repackaging it. Yeah, like how about we bundle a whole bunch of mortgages and sell them off in tiny, little slivers?

Yeah, it doesn't always end well, but each time the original idea is adapted by somebody

seeking some new pocket of profit, it evolves further toward abstraction and complexity. With its time, Frank started thinking about whether to wager $1.5 million of life insurance. The life settlement industry had already become a place where policy holders like him were line items and massive investment portfolios. In the early 40 years before all that, there was one flesh and blood human need that started

at all. That story begins in the 1980s with a guy named Scott Page. Scott told us that PM self never set out to help create an industry where the profits flow from somebody's death. Yeah, that was a necessary evil.

What was driving us was the fact that we were helping people. The first part of the tale Scott explains is actually a love story. Scott was raised in a conservative family in Baltimore, and by his 20s, he was struggling with his sexuality, wrestling with his desire to be with men. So one day you went up to see a guidance counselor about it.

In the counselors like, I know exactly how to wash those desires. You should join the military. So that very weak Scott enlisted in the Air Force. And then they stuck me in a room with 25 boys and said, take a shower and you've got four minutes.

“And I was like, well, I'm not sure this was necessarily the best thing I could do to not make”

me have homosexual thoughts. What Scott really wanted was to find somebody he could share his whole life with. And I would have these dreams of like having a husband that, and we got a bed at night will be laying in bed, reading a book, and my husband will take his glasses off and close his book, and tell me I love you and kiss me and we go to bed.

But the time he got out of the Air Force, Scott says he was determined to try to make those dreams a reality. So one night he set out to her home with beach Delaware to visit a gay bar called The Renegade. And as soon as I walked up to the bar, someone beside me said, hello, my name's Greg.

And he was this masculine man with this dark hair and these big ears and big thick four arms and a big hand, and I remember when he shook my hand, I was just like, oh my god, this is like everything that I've dreamed about is standing right here in front of me and just said hello to me. And that was the first night that I had ever slept being held by a man.

Scott and Greg quickly fell into a long distance relationship. And soon they started making plans for Scott to move to Cleveland for them to be together.

But one night a few weeks before the move, he got a call from a man he'd never met.

Who told me I know you're dating Greg and I know you're getting ready to move to Cleveland,

“but there's something you need to know and he has AIDS.”

This was the late 1980s and people were dying every day from this little understood disease

Scott wasn't too worried about himself, they had been careful, just why hadn't Greg told him when they talked Greg tried to explain?

I didn't tell you I've AIDS because I was afraid if I did, I would have never had the chance

for you to get to know me. Greg asked Scott if he'd come to Baltimore to talk in person.

“And I remember he pulled up and I was sitting on the porch and I wrote home my family and”

I got in the truck with him and we rode around and he cried and I cried and I remember saying him I didn't love with you and he goes but you know I'm going to die if you know I'm going to die and I said but you're not dead yet and if you drove here and told me that you had a brain tumor that wouldn't stop me from loving you either. I know what this disease is, I know what I'm in for and I don't want to miss the opportunity

to be with the love of my life because of fear. Scott moved into Greg's barely furnished apartment in Cleveland. They didn't have much money, they're regularly eating dinners off of cardboard box with a candle on it. But I didn't care.

I was in love and it was one of the happiest times of my life. But only a few months into the move, Greg's condition started to deteriorate. He grew weaker and weaker and soon wasn't able to keep up his work as a contractor. Scott wasn't making enough for the two of them so their financial situation started to look dire.

Scott remembers this ritual where they'd sort through the mail to figure out which bills they'd had to pay and which they could ignore.

And one day Scott remembers seeing an envelope in the stack he'd never seen before, sent

by a company called John Hancock. "I have a dress to Greg and he said oh this is my life insurance and it's $3,000 and we can't pay that." Now Scott didn't know much about life insurance at this point, but you did know that at its most basic, you pay premiums while you're alive and when you die a bunch of money goes

to whoever you told your insurance company to give it to, your beneficiary. In this case the payout or the death benefit as it's called would be $100,000.

“"When I remember that moment thinking, wait a minute, I'm starting to see the signs of”

you dying. I got to figure out how to pay this premium." Scott started by calling the insurance company and asking them if there might be any way to delay or defer Greg's payments. He's really sick and he's not working, is there anything that you can do and the insurance

company's like no. They told him if you don't pay the premium by the due date, the coverage terminates. And Scott learned more about how insurance worked. He came to understand that this strictness was actually baked into the business model. Yeah, the whole way life insurance companies price their premiums is based on the assumption

that many of their customers will either blaps on their payments or drop their policies before they die, leading to no payout. But if Scott and Greg were able to keep Greg's insurance policy and effect, Scott thought that money might be really useful down the road. That would be transformative for me.

You'd be able to have something to figure out what I'm doing to the rest of my life. Greg also wanted Scott to be able to live a full life after taking on the emotional and financial strain of being his caretaker for the last few years. So he planned to make Scott the beneficiary, but that still didn't solve the problem of paying the premium.

He says the first glimmer of hope came after they told the story of their dilemma at one of Greg's HIV support groups afterward, a stranger approached them. He was a very wealthy individual who had also been struggling with his sexuality. And had lost people recently in his life who died of AIDS and he was like, "Hey, I want to help.

What can I do?" So Scott and this benefactor work at a very loose kind of deal. But benefactor agrees to front them the money, so Scott and Greg can pay the life insurance premiums and their leaving expenses. If Scott agrees to repay him after Greg dies, using the payout from his policy.

Scott didn't realize it then, but this type of simple deal, a kind man, loaning money to a desperate couple with life insurance as their way to pay him back, would eventually

evolve into a multi-billion dollar industry.

He wrote a check and signed it and I ran and put it in mail and kept calling insurance

“carrier and I think they credited it like a day before the policy lapsed.”

In the months of the fallout, Scott returned to what he calls their angel investor to borrow money for Greg and his living expenses. The investor gave them the money in $10,000 installments as they needed it, eventually adding up to $40,000. And Scott says those payments transformed their lives in ways big and small.

I remember struggling when Greg was in hospice and they ordered oxygen and the oxygen company came and wouldn't leave oxygen until I gave him a check. And if I wouldn't have had the money, I wouldn't have been able to write him a check to give him the oxygen that he needed to help keep him alive. Within a few months, Greg and Scott had told other people in their aid support groups about

In some of them started asking if they could get a similar deal.

“And at first, Greg and Scott's benefactor loaned to as many as he could, eventually with”

the addition of interest. But Scott says the benefactor soon ran out of money. So Scott started playing the role of a kind of broker looking for other investors. He tried some actual banks, but says he was met mostly with hostility. You're taking advantage of these people and that life insurance policies for their family.

Scott says this was one of the first times he experienced this kind of outright distaste

for what he was trying to do. The idea that anyone might profit from the deaths of desperate people. Scott soon found all sorts of other people who were drawn to this business idea, specifically because of the handsome returns that it promised. And in order to attract them to the deal, he stopped framing it as a loan and instead pitched

it as a sale. The idea was the investors would pay the remaining premiums for somebody dying of AIDS plus a big lump sum to buy the whole policy. That was a key change. The investors themselves would now own the policy and become the beneficiaries.

“So when that person dies, they'd get paid directly.”

Scott, for his trouble, would get a 3% commission on however much the policy sold for. But before he could really sell this thing, investors wanted to understand what kind of

return they were going to get.

And that meant knowing is accurately as possible when any given policyholder would actually die because the longer one of Scott's clients were to live, the more premiums the investors would have to pay. And the longer they'd have to wait for their potential profits. And the question the investors kept coming back with was, well, you're not a doctor so

how do you know how long he's going to live? And I thought, well, I'm not a doctor, but I could probably find one. Scott finds a doctor in Cleveland who's willing to look at the medical records of Scott's clients and offer his professional opinion on how long he expects each of them might live. That way his investors could know when their investments might mature.

Now, if all of this sounds a bit macabre and you're wondering how in the world this is legal, Scott had to figure that out too. He went as far as becoming a licensed insurance agent in order to answer questions like "can a stranger buy your life insurance policy?" And he learned there's actually a core legal requirement in life insurance called insurable

interest, which you'd think would make that impossible. This principle came about in England in the 18th century after life insurance policies became super popular and people started running around essentially bedding on each other's lives. The British government who called this a "mischievous kind of gaming," passed legislation

that said people could only take out policies on someone whose death would hurt them financially. And that principle hopped upon to the U.S.

“But in the U.S., there was one important change that made what Scott was doing legal.”

Back in 1911, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that as long as you took out the policy on your self, a family member, or someone whose death would hurt you financially, you could then sell it to anyone you want. The Scott was building his business, this evolving financial instrument he was using got its own Latin name, Biatical Settlements.

It roughly means money for a long journey, but at the same time, Scott's new business was taking shape, Greg's health was declining. And by January of 1993, it was clear he was nearing the end.

We had hospice and he had a morphine pump, and he kept always wanting me to figure out

how to push the morphine pump button, and he would just look at me and say, "Help me. Please, put me to sleep. Just put me out of this. I can't suffer any longer. I can't do this any longer."

And I remember just pushing that button and pushing the button until he took his last breath. A couple months after Greg's death, Scott received a check in the mail for the full $100,000 life insurance policy. He paid back the anonymous angel investor that $40,000 plus the premiums. And with the money leftover, Scott decided he actually wanted to build on this life insurance

operation that had made his and Greg's life together so much better before Greg died. He knew there were thousands of other men like Greg and desperate need of money right now, and he now knew there was a way to make it profitable and scalable. He and his business partner started taking out ads and gay publications around the country, and their business started taking upward.

In the early '90s, Scott and one of his clients made it on to the massively popular field on a show, which introduced this whole concept to viewers nationwide. We got hundreds of letters from people who saw the show, who said, "Can you please help me? I have AIDS.

I have a life insurance policy. Here's my phone number. Here's my address. Please help me." The radical settlements were going national.

Within a few months, Scott says he got went that a new generation of competitors had started to spring up. Many were totally legitimate, but others were a bit more opportunistic. All of a sudden, you would get these sort of copycat piranhas coming around, the smell and blood and water, and trying to jump into this business real fast.

Some investors and people dying because of AIDS were scammed.

“Scott says all this helped fuel a regulatory reckoning as states around the country were trying”

to figure out how to make sure of the radical settlements didn't turn into a predatory wild last. Regulators were coming up with a patchwork of new rules around how people could buy, sell, and broker the policies of people with a terminal illness. Scott says by the late 90s, he had been able to legally broker more than 3,000 radical

settlements for people dying of AIDS. But who's around that time that a new revolutionary generation of drugs came to market that meant people with HIV could now live for decades? Scott says that was obviously a miracle, but for investors, these radical settlements no longer made financial sense.

He and his partner thought their business might be over, until they got a call from somebody with a different terminal illness. Cancer.

“Then we shifted, we were like, wait a minute, there's a cancer market, we can, we pivot,”

we're in this little bubble, this little gay HIV AIDS bubble, let's go mainstream. But it was yet another evolution in this financial maneuver, Scott had pioneered that would

turn it into something he never quite intended.

In the early 2000s, a new crop of big companies realized they could take the same contractual logic that had unlocked so much money with theatrical settlements and apply it to a much bigger and much more lucrative demographic. Old rich people. These companies started brokering life insurance sales for people who weren't terminally ill.

People who had policies with big payouts, but who might want to cash out early for purely financial reasons, premiums can get really expensive, tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, depending on how big the policy is. These deals got a shiny new name, life settlements, no Latin this time, and this new financial product opened up a new wild west that would again have to be regulated state by state.

This new market was led by a company called Coventry, and it took off fast. Well, Coventry hit the scene as the beast, I mean they were the 900 pound gorilla. So now Scott's business is getting overshadowed by these massive companies, employing fast-talking salespeople like a guy at Coventry named Jonah Con. Jonah remembers it was tough going in the early days.

First off, life insurance companies were not happy, because these deals meant they

have to pay more death benefits. So one time when Jonah went to this big industry conference, it felt to me like our booth was in the back corner of the conference and they unscrewed the light bulbs above us and no one could find us, you know, so you're walking around and I'm like, what did I get myself into?

Is this really that bad? You know, like I know we're doing good things, I know this is like helpful to people. Jonah was telling financial advisors about these life settlements, basically saying every time one of your clients decides to stop paying for life insurance, because it's too expensive or their family doesn't need it anymore, the life insurance company gets to

hold on to the money they would have paid out. But with a life settlement, your client can get some of that money now and let the investors walk away with the rest. As Jonah went around giving his roadshow spiel, he also remembers people making what he calls the Tony's soprano objection, like this one time when he was giving a talk in Wisconsin.

Someone raised their hand in the back of the room and said something they affect of like,

“you know, isn't something that's going to kill my client?”

And this is the height of the soprano, so everyone's thinking like the mob is out there like buying these policies up and the number of soprano's questions we would get was sort of off the chart. And Jonah's like, no, no, no, don't worry. Coventry's business model is based on buying up a bunch of life insurance policies to hedge against the risk of making any one bad bet.

And so the sheer number of policies they buy obliterates any incentive to try to, I don't know, murder any one individual policy holder to get their return marginally sooner. By the early 2010s, Jonah says Wall Street had developed this massive new appetite for life settlements. After the fallout from the 2008 financial crisis, people were looking for investments that weren't tethered to things like the stock market or the bond market.

And life settlements looked like a good place to park their money. As long as the people in their portfolio died on schedule, they would collect the payouts. And those portfolios could be sold and resold in bundles up and down Wall Street. Now the problem for companies like Coventry was finding enough people who actually wanted to sell their policies. So instead of just hitting up financial advisors, do you have a life insurance policy

you no longer need or can't they? They started beaming their pitch directly into people's living rooms. Not just rich people, but also regular retirees who might want a sort of advance from the afterlife to fund their golden years. We planned well for retirement, but I wish we had more cash. Now you can sell your policy for an immediate payment. We sold our life insurance policy and received $130,000. Now we have money to help with the medical bills. Find out if you are sitting on a gold mine.

Scott Page had also pivoted to brokering life settlements to retirees, and he was also advertising

member of the Golden Girls to convince her fellow retirees that life settlements might be right for them. Hi Betty! If a baby boomer or senior needs a large sum of the immediate cash,

“what's the best way to get it? Is it a knock-over-the-local bank? Be, start a widespread firm and”

ask for a bailout. They'll see, convert your life insurance policy to a life settlement. It's a life settlement. Anyone who has an active life insurance policy can convert it to cash with a life settlement and the best program. I think hearing these ads was the first time it hit me just how far this industry had transformed. What started is a desperate financial innovation in the middle of an epidemic? Now, sounded a little bit like, "Call 1-800-Fast Cash Now." In Jonah

Khan says a lot of these elderly new clients were selling their policies for way less than they could have because they had zero idea of how much they were worth. You can't go to Zilo and say my neighbor's sold his policy for X so I can sell mine for Y. So it's like, if I tell you it's worth 20 grand, you may believe me. Meanwhile, I know it's worth 300. Eventually, Jonah decided he didn't want to be in the business of buying policies anymore. He left Coventry.

“In not long after, he got drawn into a different side of the market. He decided to start a brokerage”

firm representing the people selling their policies, helping them get the best deal they could. In the better their deal, we should add the more he made on commission. Scott Page for his part says that by the late 2010s, he was feeling disillusioned with how

abstract the industry had become. It was to the point of where I was always scratching my head thinking,

had we forgotten why we started. Everything was so driven on how much money can we make. Why isn't this person dead yet? Scott ultimately gave up trying to answer those sorts of questions. He sold his business to a private equity firm because it has deal with the devil. In the reason he could sell in the first place is because every year, thousands of ageing Americans continue to decide for whatever reason that it's better to cash out will still alive.

They continue paying premium so others can benefit after they die. Even the insurance companies themselves have started investing some money in life settlements to hedge their bets. So that was the state of the industry when Frank Sarowski, the band who fell in love with insurance when he accidentally set his room on fire, saw a Facebook post about life settlements and got intrigued.

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shows and all morningers. Sign up at plus.npr.org. But the time Frank Surowski stumbled upon the secondary life insurance market in the Facebook post it had already morphed and mutated from a few scattered handshakes and benefactors back in the early 90s to an expansive network of investment portfolios traded by some of the biggest hedge funds

“in private equity groups on Wall Street. Frank, you will remember is the guy who learned to love”

insurance as a kid and as an adult, he'd become an auditor at a major railroad. He'd come to treat financial decision-making a bit like he was playing a giant game of life. Frank starts reading about how these companies will pay more for your life settlement the closer they think you are to dying. And while Frank has been in remission for a few years, he does have a rare form of cancer that could come back. All over the house there are framed pictures of him with his family

and cubs hats at stages of their lives he almost missed out on. I've got an adverse health event in my history that should help my numbers. And so he let his curiosity take the wheel. He had those two life insurance policies he'd taken out before his cancer diagnosis and the

payout would total $1.5 million. Could he potentially be sitting on a gold mine?

by doing that and that's when the people started calling. Frank's being bombarded with call

“after call after call. These are direct buyers from companies like Coventry. I got hail and I got”

Mike and I got Matthew and I got all these people calling from these companies going like hey you know while we need is like you're consent forms so that we can get your health records and you know we'll take it from there. The housing mics in Matthews of the world are talking him through how easy and fast this could all be. What are them just flat out offers Frank 200,000 to seal this deal ASAP no medical records needed. Sounds like you're being swarmed a little bit. It was like half talking

to a guy at the mortuary and the used car place at the same time. Now for companies on the other end of the phone Frank's life insurance pad is just one tiny piece in a giant financial board game. But Frank the stakes are substantially higher. He's talking about selling a big part of his family's security blanket. So if he's going to play this game he wants to figure out a way to win. Three a way to win he thinks is to get a big enough chunk of money now so he can reinvest it in the market

and hopefully end up with more money than the $1.5 million his policies were supposed to pay out.

So how big of an offer would he need? The figure that out to essentially put a price on his family's future financial security he does what any professional auditor would do. Oh it's a spreadsheet. It's the only answer it's spreadsheet. The Rosencolms basically show the range of potential offers he could get and they show how much each of those amounts would grow over the years depending on different rates of return.

The big sort of unspoken variable in all this of course is the number of years Frank has left on this mortal coil because say Frank sold his policies. Even if his investments did well, if Frank were to die in the next few years his family would likely be down hundreds of thousands of dollars. Frank decides that in order to maximize his chances of getting a good offer he should hire a broker to help him get the direct buyers to up their bids as high as possible.

So he calls up the same company Jonah Khan helped start to represent people selling their life insurance policies a place called Evergreen settlements. In the broker explains they'll send to Frank's policies and medical records out to potential bidders and each of them will use some mysterious calculation to figure out the answer to a big question. Maybe the big question which is

“when will Frank actually die? Meaning how soon can they collect their money?”

Some better may think Frank has a year to live, others may say 20 and the difference in their

estimates will show up and how much they offer. Well Frank was waiting for the first bids to come in.

He found himself in this weird place where he was actually sort of rooting against himself. I was hoping they would come back and say I had 12 months or six months. The best case scenario is for them to come back and think about to die because that means they're willing to pay more because they think they'll get paid faster. As more bids come in he keeps thinking through the different versions of the conversation I'll have with his wife about all this. He can't help but

think what she might say if he sold out the family's safety blanket for too little. If he took those initial offers for example Frank would have to say. I just sold these for 30 cents. No not even that it would have been 20 cents on the dollar. So I think she would have been like why would you do that? You have a cancer history. Why would you do that? That's stupid. Finally the broker tells Frank they've gotten their last and highest offer. It's from Coventry.

They're offering $470,000 for both of his policies which means only 31 cents on the dollar. I was like ugh. He's like you're right. I thought it was going to be higher but here we are. At this moment Frank has to make a decision about whether to place a massive bat. He consults his morbid spreadsheet and it tells him that if he takes the money and reinvest it aggressively enough to make a 12% annual return over the next 12 years then he'll make more than his family would

get from the payout. If his investments don't quite pan out he'll at least have turned this potential future payout into a liquid pool of money he and his family could use if need be while he's still alive. But Frank is also weighing what this risk might mean for his family because remember if he sells his policies for $470,000 minus a $40,000 commission for his broker

when he dies that $1.5 million will go to whoever owns the policy by then instead of his wife

and children. So if he dies earlier than expected his family will lose a chunk of money.

“Do I want the money in my pocket now or do I want to really just sort of keep it for the family?”

The kicker is the comparison sucks because the policy means I'm dead so if I actually get that payout like I don't get that payout but maybe my wife and kids do and that's great but but that's also the I guess doing the right thing for my family component where it's like okay

more palatable to them? Right I mean I don't know there are a few ways of thinking about Frank's

decision making process here. On the one hand you could see it as a gamble getting 12% returns for 12 years is by no means guaranteed. On the other hand you could look at this as caching in on a great investment. By this point Frank has only paid about $20,000 in premiums so caching out with $430,000 would mean he'd make more than 20 times his money. Plus Frank still has another big life insurance policy through his job so he's not wagering his entire security blanket.

“For me I think the thing that struck me most about Frank's whole life insurance journey is the way”

that he was able to muster this kind of analytical detachment in the face of the greatest scariest mystery that we all face the mystery of our own death. And because of that he's able to see something like a life settlement with the same cold financial logic as the giant institutions that trade them on the market. You can see them not only as a way of trying to hedge against the great unknown but as a vehicle for doing the thing at the center of all finance of moving money

through time even clawing it back from beyond the grave. Plus you know it's hard to walk away from $430,000 just being dumped into your bank account. Frank tells his broker yes he will sell. He wants to break money out of a glass box of the future. Frank says a few weeks later he got a stack of papers and inch thick in the mail to sign. He goes through them with his wife at his kitchen table. She herself actually has to sign away her rights as the beneficiary before an odory.

“And then they send it all off to make it official. Do you remember when you actually got the money?”

Yeah I mean it was it was wired to my e-trade account. Ready to go. Ready to go. Straight in. Frank says he hasn't put all the money into the market since his payout last year. He used a little bit of it to buy a 20 year old BMW and he's using some of it to take his family on a trip to Costa Rica. So for him this gambit isn't just about winning some game of personal finance. It's also about making the best of the extra time he didn't think he was going to have with his family.

But looking back Frank still has this weird lingering feeling about this whole thing. The idea

that somebody out there has a million dollar interest in his death. Do I have a banana ahead of you guys?

I think I think I do. Frank's feeling here encapsulates the corp strangeness of this whole transaction. The fact that he is auctioned off a piece of his own death. Like all of us Frank will eventually die. And when he does die a couple of checks are going to get cut in some office building somewhere. Together they'll be worth $1.5 million. Frank's bounty. Maybe before he's even buried a bunch of zeros will pop up in some corporate account and then

that money will flow out into the world. Distributed to whoever's invested in his policies, like spreading Frank's financial ashes to the winds of the market. And his family will most likely be okay at least financially. No matter how his investments go, he can afford that risk. That was of course not the case for the men signing over their policies as they were dying of AIDS in the early 90s. Scott Page who helped pioneer that market says

this entire category of financial transaction was created specifically because those men had no other options.

This industry would have never been born if people were treated like humans, regardless of how

“much money they have. I think that it's a shame and an embarrassment as a country to have people”

so desperate that they have to sell assets, whether it's a lifestyles policy, their home, or whatever to survive. Scott says he does understand why so many people have responded to the industry. He helped create with feelings of revulsion and unease. This idea that one man's death might be another man's treasure. But in the face of all that need, he improvised a solution within the system we have, a system built on commerce and profit. Part of what, you know, I used to tell

myself and I still do today as every disaster becomes an opportunity. If you can step back and see your way through the fog. And if the governments and philanthropists of the world aren't willing or able to take care of people's needs when disaster strikes, the world of finance can and will find a way to do it. But only if the price is right. We have a quick favor to ask you. If you haven't already and if you enjoy listening to plan a

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“Special thanks to Brendan Flado and also to Matt Nadel who made an excellent documentary”

on the history of biomedical settlements called Caching Out. I'm Lexi Horowitz-Gazzy, and I'm Vito Emanuel. This is NPR. Thanks for listening.

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