TGI – Episode 711 “What a Drag!”

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Okay, and it was so fun and so good to see her. But she shared a story with me that I wanted to bring here to my family's world. So to give you a little bit of backstory, I told her. I've been reading snippets of my teenage diary on pod meets world. And I said, and the thing that struck me, one of the things that struck me is being so funny is that

I have all these diary entries from the time that Rachel and writer that you two were dating. And it's so apparent. Yes. And I said, and it's so apparent that I just have the biggest crush on writer. But I like Rachel too much to hate her.

But like I'm seeping inside, like in in the writing. It's like hung out with writer and Rachel today. She's so cool. I don't want to punch her at all. But I don't think she understands him.

And so I said, did you just curious, did you ever pick up? Like when we were hanging out, did you ever pick up on the fact that I had a crush on writer? Or that maybe, you know, somewhere I was jealous of you. And she goes, no, but I have a story. And now I'd like to play the clip.

Oh, what?

“I remember one time he said to me, like, if you weren't with me, you know, who would you want to be with?”

And I realized in retrospect that he was probably thinking, I'd be like, oh, I don't know. James, see if he was still alive or something like that. But instead, I say the name of my ex-boyfriend. And he takes it on the chin. And I was like, I realized that I've probably answered wrong.

And then I said, well, what about you?

What? I don't know. The presses. I think I didn't remember. Yeah.

Was I, I was probably trying to make her jealous? I knew it. I knew it. I was like, you were probably trying to make her jealous. She definitely hanging out all the time.

I know. But yeah, she's probably right, but like, I expected her to say, like some, you know, I was like, I was like, fine, wow.

“How about my friend that you know that we've been with?”

How about that? Just for the record. Have you guys ever kissed anything? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You never had a moment when you were hanging out.

Nothing, never crossed the line. Nothing ever happened. Okay. Well, we talked about, we were cuddly the way teenagers are cuddly. We probably crossed the line now.

No. Correct. I did not ever go over to your house and lay on with my head on your chest. And my leg straight over your leg. Listening to.

Come and cross. But we definitely didn't. When you work the car. Look at stars and listen to music. And run in the rain together, holding hands.

We wouldn't do that now. That seems totally normal. You were dating and you didn't know it. But my favorite part of the whole thing is that when she finished the story, I we started laughing and talking over it.

But she looks right at the camera. She goes, "What do you think I forget?" And I was like, "Oh my God."

“Anyway, I just felt like my team beat world fully crossed over”

into the pod meets world universe. And I had, and I had to share. Wow. So. So you can hear the rest of the Rachel Lee Cook interview

over on the designated feed at teen beat. Yeah, it was, it's so much fun to talk to her. I've had so much fun doing that show and just getting hearing people's stories of what they were like as kids and teenagers. Also getting Rachel's, like, the way Rachel felt about herself.

She's like, "I was such a tri-hard." And I was like, "It's so amazing." She's like a definition of cool.

But she was always, I mean, the thing about Rachel is that she was,

she was always kind of, she thought of herself as like a dorky. Yeah. Person. And it was like, there was nothing ever work. Everything.

I mean, yeah, no. I mean, except she was earnest. She was not like, but she just always had the best taste and clothes. And music and movies and art. And like, yeah, she was so sophisticated.

But she never, like, she never thought of herself as sophisticated. But that was you. I know. Maybe I just described yourself. I just described yourself.

I just described writer as into cool clothes. I think he was back in the day. He was like, "I never heard you." He was like, "I never heard you." He was like, "I never heard you."

I mean, he was like, "I never heard you."

“I think he was like, "I never heard you."”

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I think he was like, "I never heard you." I think he was like, "I never heard you." I think he was like, "I never heard you." I think he was like, "I never heard you." The part of it was that I always hang out with older people.

I was just like, even at my hometown, because my brother's friends. And like, so I just always felt like sort of the younger kid crashing the party who was like, "Yeah, yeah, it would be there." When in retrospect, like, "Yeah, I was pretty cool.

I was doing cool things." And I just didn't feel that way, you know? Right. But yeah. God, that's what I was doing.

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What a drag. A great episode of Boy Meets World History. May this go down. Let's proclaim it now. Let's just before we say it again.

Yes, we know what writers are saying. Let's put us close to our man. The Emmys just snubbed us in our final year with our greatest effort.

“Do you think Bill Daniels looks at us for the biggest entire career in this?”

What's with that one time? When I say double D. To Eric Matthews. Yes. Peter originally aired December 3, 1999.

The synopsis Corey decides to redecorate the apartment. While Eric and Jack poses girls to hide from a brave throwing. You can't even wake. I think you're going to be surprised. I like to call this episode the leather jacket gang is alive and well.

Exactly. It was directed by Jodi Binstock.

It was written by Carlos Aragon.

Before I jump into our guest stars, writer, take it away with your overall thoughts. Yeah, no, I think this is pretty bad. Pretty up there and you know, definitely top 10 worst episodes of Boy Meets World. If not top 5, probably top 5.

“It's hard to remember all of them, but I would say this is pretty bad.”

Actually, the B story is cute. Again, we're in the Corey Tepanga era, which I do like. So that's cool. But yeah, it's really, you know. I mean, it's one thing like it's just, I don't know, I found it really insufferable.

Well, I, it surprised me. I actually really liked this episode. I thought this was fun. And I kind of out of the box. I like the, I'm kidding.

It was awful. Jesus.

It's like a terrible episode.

I realized just halfway through. It's what we've talked about. It's, this is the biggest drug trip. Nobody kind of cares about the stories. It's, it's so, I don't, I don't know what to say about this episode.

I really don't. None of it makes any sense. I remember shooting this week.

“I remember specifically some stories about this week.”

But I remember getting into a fight with Michael at one point. But this was just, it was, it was border line. And I mean, real border line unwatchable. Yes. Well, I actually found myself looking at my phone.

Yes. Which is, you know, like, I don't do a life in general. But like, especially when we're watching shows for the podcast. And for 22 minutes, this is not six hours long. Yeah.

And I was like, what's going on? I had to like stop myself. We like keep watching. It is everything about this. And I know you said you like the B-story.

It was so lost in the quagmire of what everyone else was happening in the A-story that I just didn't. If real ruin of the B-story is the fact that they actually try to have like a boy meets world Sweet moment where Eric as a woman gives the advice for the lesson of the B-story. And I was like, what is happening here? It's like a nobody recognize that it's Eric.

I'm sitting there talking it to Panga and she doesn't get it. Why do everyone has to pretend that we don't recognize you too.

Also, I've never seen a more hideous woman than that woman in my life.

And you are substantially better looking than he is. Thank you. What? I do have to share. We've now watched however many episodes we're coming up on a 140-some odd episodes.

We're at 145 episodes of Boy Meets World. If not, we're at this point. Jensen has never hated any of them. He's always been able to, he's always like listen. Here's the silver lining I really like.

Even when we've all been like, hey did it. No redeeming qualities. He's found redeeming qualities. This was his. He said I absolutely hated.

I didn't hate it as much as he did.

“Can I tell you also that I think that this episode more than any episode that we've seen,”

is now almost all of them, you're all furious. You're all clearly out of, you're not even there. There are parts where Danielle feels sad. Yeah. Will you're doing what you've done while this whole season, which is like try not to drown?

And you drown. Yeah. No, it's bad. It's just bad. It is.

And it's, it's, you almost want to, and again, from an actor's standpoint of us working, getting to spend the year with each other, making more money, which is of course important, giving the fans something else, which is great. Season seven great. I'm glad we got a chance to do it, and I'll be together.

For the legacy of boy meets, we're all that almost feels like we would have been better to end after season six. Yeah. Well, you know what bothers me about it is it feels, there is a part of me that when I watch it, and I do feel sad.

I feel like I'm, I'm looking at Danielle being sad. There is a sense, and I remember feeling that way, that season, that felt like we had been raised and nurtured in kind of this, this, not that it was all pleasantries, obviously. But we had been protected as a show, and we had the same goal, and it was to make good, a good product, and we were enjoying doing it.

they stopped caring about us, and they didn't feel the need to protect us or the characters. So it just became, you write a script, you write a script, you direct an episode, you direct an episode. Let's bring this person and throw that character out the window, who cares anyway. And now this thing we worked six years to build, they just lit a match to, and yet we all still had to go out there and do it.

Yeah. So the thing that also made me sad was it kept just, I was kept just thinking about writers, performance and then performance and check like me, and it kept just making me go like, you know, all the good that did this kind of undid, and it was just, and none of it made me so well motivated. You know, it was just so poorly motivated, and then it was even worse at the beginning.

“That's what Michael and I thought, we'll get into that.”

I mean, but it's just like the idea that Eric is like motivated by being upset that he's an ugly girl. Like that's literally what your character is supposed to be doing. For like three scenes, not one, not one moment, but like it's the entire character arc. And it's like, actually could have been set up pretty easily if you were talking about looks in the beginning. If you were talking about how women look or, you know, the way you feel about your own looks or don't even think about your own looks.

He's standing just to jack how, you know, I used to be the better. Any of those ways you could have done it, but instead it just becomes this joking motivation. But then we're supposed to carry through so many scenes. I'm like, I don't know why not make it jack who was an ugly woman.

And he's never been told he was ugly in his life.

Wonderful. And he all of a sudden is like, but wait, you know, and you could then help him through. Like that. And then he's pursuing the guy because he wants the guy to. Validation.

Yeah. Validation even though it put some closer to getting caught. Yeah. No, it's this was just. Yeah.

“This is this is a very, very tough watch.”

Well, jumping into our guest stars. We have Andrew Levitas as Luther. He had appeared in the movie in and out. And TV shows like the Nanny and party of five. But has since become quite the Renaissance man as a multi disciplinary artist.

His work spans all types of mediums visual art, sculpture, film, and installation with an emphasis on experimental mixed media. He's just known for his signature metal work photography process. In which photographic images are chemically transferred onto sheets of metal, blurring the line between painting, photography, and sculpture.

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Awesome. And he's got his group in this episode. Boy, poor guy. Poor guy.

“Can you imagine having to do the commit to this character?”

Also, why are the leaders of all gangs? Hot. Well, it's because we like to, no, I don't. I was never part of it. I mean, why?

Why did they put that in the minds of the young women? If these bully archetype, right? They clearly just liked the bad boy, leather jacket, James Dean, want to be greaser. Because it's such a clear archetype.

It's like, you have Harley's replacement, a grip to a certain extent. You have this now.

It's like always these like handsome, cool guys.

It's also the leather jacket instantly signifies, you know, three guys with other jackets. You're bad. You just need that. That's all you need to see.

And we know. And it wasn't three guys when we started. So yeah, well, right. Yeah. And there's Josh Lamb as gang member.

This appears to be his first and only credit in the entertainment business. And also, we have another featured background actor in Luther's gang played by Brad Everett Young. This was uncredited, but he also appeared on shows like Felicity and Grey's Anatomy and in movies like Love and Basketball and the artist.

He'd eventually become an always working celebrity and red carpet photographer,

published in magazines like Vanity Fair, Vogue, People, Variety, and with celebrities like David Harbor, Sarah Michelle Geller and Seth Green. Sadly, Brad collided with a car going the wrong way on the 134 freeway and died at the young age of 46. Oh, God.

Young also founded Dream Loud Official, a grassroots initiative dedicated to restoring and preserving music and art programs in schools nationwide. So jumping into our recap, we start in the student union. It's late at night. And Eric and Jack are working overtime behind the counter.

Eric is spit shining the register when they're startled by a rattling at the glass doors.

which still means they're up to no good.

Load in sound equipment.

“These foolagans are putting together some sort of secret event.”

And they've sent out over 300 flyers. So they're expecting a big turnout. The main thug, Luther Bragg's big crowd. Big money, lots of beautiful women and none of its legal. Just the kids we didn't know.

Breaking the law. Breaking the law. I love it. I love it. Yeah.

So the original script. It was just him. Really? It was him. He might have had a couple.

Like there was people that were helping him set up the rave, but it was just him. And I went to Michael. Michael, come on. And he's like, what?

What's the problem?

I'm like, what's the problem?

We're going to dress like women to get away from this one guy. I'm like, match shredded and I'm 200 pounds. Right. We could crush this man. Yes.

Two against one. Two against one. And like, what that? Well, well, you know, it's all about you. You're the good guys.

I'm like, no, Michael, this is. And we ended up getting into a fight about it. I'm like, I'm not doing it. I'm not. There's no reason why we're getting dressed like women to get away from this one guy.

That's one guy. Yeah. And so we got into this whole thing. Well, then we'll give them guys. We'll give them thugs and like do something because I'm not doing it this way.

Yeah.

And it was the first time of really starting to stand up, or it's like, this is insane.

And so he would they wear the rest of the other guy. Yeah. And they gave them 10 guys around it, where it's like, at least make us feel threatened. Because this one little guy comes in, it's like, I'm going to kill you. Well, then we're going to be talking about you because there's two of us.

But you were okay. Yeah. Again, at least that was so absurd that it's like this is fun, but it's just it was all of it. It's just I think it was also building up by this point of. You know, and then calling me to do the season man.

Oh, man. It's like me wanting to leave with a lot of tickets. I mean, that got that goes later. But it was like, I just it was starting to build and build and build. And I remember Michael and I going at each other.

Because this was made perfect sense to him, made perfect sense to him. He's the bad guy and it's like as a point of comparison, you think about players with squirrels. Like how much of a slam dunk that over the top and it's was versus the over the topness that they've been making you do. Yeah. In other episodes, it's it's too bad because it could have been, you know, it's fine to go over the top.

Going big is great. I take some of this blame because I remember a specifically asking Michael this season to let me play multiple characters. So I know because I had that conversation with him where I want to play more things. And I think Michael in in, you know, the road to hell being paved with good intentions. I think it Michaels mind. He was truly writing me stuff to try to get me on SNL.

Yeah. I absolutely believe that. He would tell me that. I think you can go on SNL. I think you can do stuff. So I believe in his mind. He was giving me the opportunity to do multiple characters because he thought that's where he wanted to see me go.

And I asked for it. But it was a lot of it was not like, you know, playing the other, the other hotel manager that's motivated, you know, plays with squirrels motivated. Or just one scene that it's like funny. You have to carry this.

“You have to carry a story in French accent.”

Yep. But I did ask. I remember specifically. So I take some of the blame. I specifically asked him to play multiple characters.

And I do believe he thought he was doing something for my career. That was going to be helpful. But this was just this was a tough one to get through. A wide-eyed Eric was supposed to jack. Dude, this must be that floating wave.

The school has been trying to bust. He wonders if they should call the cops. But Jack reminds him that's crazy Luther Montalpho. He's insane. Montalpho.

Now they're just starting to put in other people's names. Eric, a Montalph. Yeah. And we had Ergon Phil for Carlos. And now we have Ergon Montalpho.

Um, Eric asks crazy Luther. The guy who sells the stereo products at low-low prices. Jack explains no. Crazy Luther who chewed off his own brother's finger. Jack begs him not to go near the psychoman.

But Eric has a different plan. If they catch crazy Luther, they're heroes. Jack fantasizes off in the distance. Hmm. That would look good on my resume.

Get into the job. The job was about to break this entire scene. I was watching him.

“Like, I think it's the line right before this.”

He could not say well. Yeah. Yeah. It's when he said crazy Luther who chewed off his own brother's finger. Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy Luther's supposed to be a student. I think so. Yeah. He's not just like a neighbor.

So a multiple felon who's done all this stuff. And yet still a student at the university. Well, he's cares about his education. Copy that. That would look good on my resume.

Get a new job by a beautiful house. And hire a security guard to shoot you on site if you ever come near my property. I don't like that joke. Well, most of most of this episode is people making fun of Eric of how he looks or how he sounds or even before he's a woman.

Yeah. So it's followed by a sweet moment. Which we haven't fun here. If you guys had actually just kissed. Yeah.

I'm waiting for you. You got nothing to show that.

“You're like, Oh, I was like, Oh, my God.”

I just don't worry. I would be so funny. If you guys had any balls in the 90s, we would have just said like, Oh, just have him kiss. I never referenced it.

I never mentioned it again.

Oh, my God. It was the way you looked at each other. Is this. Yeah. You would have been so many fans happy.

Okay. No kidding. Yeah. Wow. Eric knows sounds a little hostile.

But I wish you well. Jack feels bad about his dream now. So the friends hug it out. After this little love fest, they sneak out from behind the counter and we quickly flip to the result. Crazy Luther has been apprehended.

Helped back by two cops. The raven presario stares down. Eric and Jack were proudly gloting about the arrest. We dropped a dime. We night one one.

Your hoodlum butt. Jack tries to calm him down. But Eric's just getting started. He gets in crazy Luther's face and Thompson with his fingers. Not so tough.

Now are you. You want to chew him off? Crazy Luther stares back with scary eyes and a creepy smile. I'll look the terrifies Jack. But Eric shows no fear.

Come on. They're never going to see the guy again. He threw a raven. The student union. He is so expelled.

Okay. So he's a student. Yeah.

“Jack points out that Luther didn't technically throw the raven.”

In fact, they turned him in before he could do anything illegal. Eric scoffs. If that were the case, then the cops would have no reason to hold him. They have to let him go. They have to let them all go.

On cue, the cops release. Crazy Luther and walk out of the building without another word. No. Don't. It's not.

By the way, it's apparently not illegal to break and they basically broke in.

Well, no, that's fine. That's fine. Also, the cops don't leave. The cops stand there with the rest of the gang. While Luther then says I'm going to kill you and then they walk out with the gang.

Just joined the gang. So the cops literally, I was like, wait. They're not even having the cops walk out. This is literally all done in front of the police. Good luck.

I'm going to kill you, Matthews. Go ahead. Let's go cops. And then they all walked out together. Because again.

Yeah, it was like, oh, they don't know. The hell is going on. They did this in front of the police. The police don't do anything. It was like, wow.

We'd given up at this point. I think. We'd given up. His posse of hoodlums now flank Luther. Clearly angry at the student union employees.

The inmates who, sensing trouble, just as Eric turns around to spot the predicament. Eric and Jack Coward and fear. But crazy Luther surprises them. I'm not going to kill you today. Eric's pleasantly surprised.

“But quickly as brought back down to earth.”

I'm going to let you go home and think you're safe.

And when you think you are, you're not.

Enjoy what's left of your lives, boys. Right in front of the cops. The guy is going to go. Yeah. Leaving Eric and Jack quaking and fear.

Eric asks what's going to happen. And Jack breaks it to him. He's going to kill us. Done, done, done. Also, does any smack you on the stomach?

Yeah. Who? Loose it. It was like whack you. He like does that.

Got a new eye. Yeah. You're counting. I was counting the little bit. Yeah.

Then we're in the guy's apartment. Sean's making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when Jack bursts in the front door and quickly locks it behind him. He nervously scans the room. Where's Eric?

Did Luther come here? Jack fears the worst. He got him, didn't he? Eric's gone. That was funny in this scene.

Yeah. There's a couple scenes where Matt was very funny. This is one of them. Oh, poor Eric. He sobbed on Sean's shoulder.

He was so young and stupid. He didn't tell him to stop. He didn't tell him to stop. He didn't tell him to stop. He didn't tell him to stop.

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Okay. Yeah. No. Not any of that is. That's a pin cushion.

A pin cushion. Correct.

So Jack immediately responds.

Not that. He'd rather die than follow this plan. So Eric notes fine. After your funeral. I'm going shopping.

“Eric turns to Sean adjusts his dress and asks.”

How do I look, babe? Sean looks him up and down. Yes. On the dress. No.

On the face. Yeah. I mean, why didn't they make him uglier? Michael didn't think he needed to be uglier because he doesn't have a very feminine body. Yeah, I'm not fat.

I'm big. He's not skinny. So that's it. That's it. That's it.

That's why Matt Lawrence was pretty. Right. Matt Lawrence is pretty because of his body. And I was ugly because of mine. Correct.

Wow. Yeah. That's what it is. Also bangs. Which don't work on anybody.

You could have put you in an awkward, I'm like, what we did with Ben.

I'm the chick like me up the sodas, like a bad wig.

You know, like it didn't work until he was quarantiner. No, right. But he's built like a bison. Right. That's 100%.

It's 100%. It's it. Yeah. That's all it is. That's it.

He doesn't have a feminine body. And my arms were not covered much.

“Which I think is to show like I look big and awful.”

And it's like, check it out. Like, look at look at the fact I in the dress. That's what it was. That's truly what it was. And that's all it needed.

Matt Lawrence. Pretty. Cause then. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. But Matt's face with the makeup is actually more disturbing. Like you were literally the much more pleasant to look at. Yes. You're gorgeous.

This strip, they put above like to block out. And then the thin paint. And there's something about his wig just doesn't match with the new vibe. There's something off. Eric wonders.

What? Too much makeup? Sean clarifies. Too much ugly. Jack is still disturbed and shouts Eric.

But Eric corrects him. Whoa. It's not Eric. Don't ever call me that again. Sean asks who he is.

But Eric's not sure yet. He tries on a deep foreign accent. My name is Olga Svetlana. I am a shot put champion. I don't shave my armpits.

My bad shorts and I go. Sean explains. He needs to find his own inner woman. So Eric stares at himself in the mirror. Inner woman.

Discover my sickness.

“He tries some seductive facial expressions as sexy music plays and Sean watches closely”

in the background and you're fully breaking.

Finally, he lands on Shantal.

Shantal Dubois. I'm a little French girl. He turns to Shantanads and the very shy. Sean sticks out a hand to greet his new persona on Shantai Shantal. Mid-Curzzy Eric turns off the voice and grunts to Jack.

Now you. People's a blonde wig out of a bag and hands it to Jack. You're La La Nelson. You're a troll-up. Former drug addict.

Jack lines. No. That may be laugh. I'm a man. Yeah.

Trallip. Former drug addict. No. There's no way I'm doing this. He suggests that they leave town but Eric reminds him.

We can't leave town. We have mid-terms all week. Jack can't. No. No.

I'm a man and I'm facing him like a man. Then there's a knock at the door and he shrieks and hides behind Sean. Great. Shriek too. I just got had some moments in this one.

That was great. Yeah. And then we're at Cori and to Pengadol. Cori has painted the entire apartment. Right yellow.

No. It's not a stink hole. A stink hole. A stink hole. Oh.

I just can't catch it. I just can't catch it. I just can't catch it. I just can't catch it. I just can't catch it.

Trying to protect you guys. He confidently sings. My favorite color is yellow. I'm such a happy fellow. Makes me jiggle like yellow.

No. This was so cool to realize. Cori is very yellow. Isn't yellow the glory color? It is yellow.

Yeah. It's exactly this yellow. Yeah. It was back to like season water. The sweater.

Like he has that yellow in the pot. Yeah. But there's just what I saw. I was like this fits. It's so boring.

I love it. It's just so funny. I have like a color for a character. Yeah. Like I was like, yeah.

That's right. He is. Then to Penga enters in a shocked unaffected. Cori waves. Hello.

Who's the most wonderful husband there is? And that's it was such a mischoke. How he does not turn around and say yellow. I do understand. Right.

Funny. To Penga doesn't know what to say. What did you do? Cori's not reading the room. Literally.

And suggests. Go ahead. Put on something sexy and thank me. To Penga states the obvious. You chose yellow.

Cori brags. Not just any yellow. This is the same yellow that used to paint those lines in the street. How about that? To Penga sarcastically repeats.

How about that? Cori holds up the paint cannon brags. 399 a bucket. Same as the city pays. So thank you.

Like I didn't like low key.

Yeah. Same as the city pay. What can you show? Okay. That's you got to do that.

I want to see.

“Seventh grade version of this Cori into Penga.”

I know. Like that would have been so wonderful to see old married couple. And when you guys are 11. Yeah. I kind of did some stuff like that.

Some but it was I mean, I get what they're going. But I would love to have seen more this Cori into Penga over the entire series. Because that will agree. The funny thing is this is a storyline between Cori and to Penga they've done before, which is Cori not listening to to Penga are not reading to Penga at all.

But normally it has an outcome where we're mad about it.

And this one one he comes to the he's the realization ends up being his to Penga never

needs to say anything. Yeah. What do I understand what happens? He tried to explain the way where he says I've known you long enough to know you didn't like it and you're lying to me.

Exactly. That I saw the reaction on your face. So why he lies throughout the whole episode. I love that. Look on your face.

When did down what he actually felt as I know? Yeah. I don't know why he did that. Yeah. But yeah.

It's like character character character change off. Yep off screen. Correct. No explanation. No motivation.

Oh, I never rarely felt that way.

“None of our characters are our characters this season.”

None. Fini's not Fini. For God's sake. Nobody is who they were. Nobody.

Throwing away. To Panga realizes he's worked really hard on this in Corey admits he has once we decided we were going to fix this place up. I really wanted to put my heart and soul into it. You know? He wants her to be happy there.

To Panga typically agrees. I want me to be happy here too. Well, Corey announces he has a lot of ideas. To Panga quickly chimes in, sensing more trouble. Let's talk about them.

Of course, Corey isn't hearing it. No, I want to surprise you. I mean, that look on your face when you walked in meant so much to me. To Panga wonders, this look and shows off a fake smile. He beams.

Yes, I've never seen you look like that before.

It makes me want to surprise you every day for the rest of our lives. She grimaces. How long do you think that'll be? He shrugs. I don't know.

It's a surprise. He gives her a kiss on the cheek and hands her the bright yellow paintbrush on his way out the door. She nervously asks where he's going and he responds. Corey called. That's the button.

Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. Yeah, I mean, I like the cork jokes. The cork coffee.

The cork stuff. But she decided that cork is what they need. Right now. In this moment. Yep.

I don't know. There's a better button. We give it. Yeah. What do you think?

There's a better show.

There's a better episode.

There's a better episode. Yes. Madeleine and Trina got the week off, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'm actually surprised because it wouldn't call it the week off so much as the reprieve. You got a call from the governor. And it's not driving. But it doesn't seem like it. It doesn't seem like a obligatory scene to have the,

especially Madeleine's character interacting with you guys as women. Yeah. It's interesting that they chose to just... She's a pretty one to do that. Yeah.

That wouldn't work. Shontal walks in with a high pitched bonjour. Crazy Lutheran as Posse happened to be sitting on the pool table. Most likely planning their next illegal rave. Luther sees Shontal sashay past him and she has got his attention.

Wow. Which goes against all. It's all happened. And he's not interested in you. But yet you walk by and he goes, wow.

Yeah.

“I think the wow is supposed to be how ugly I am, right?”

Oh, really? I think it's supposed to be like that. I think it's supposed to be like that. Wow. I think it's a lot more sense.

Because I was like the fact that, you know, the sort of, the, the, what's supposed to be happening is that everybody that sees her. Yeah. It's like shocked by how ugly she is. Right.

And like that. Yeah. I thought that sounded like a rave. I thought that sounded like a rave. Yeah.

I don't think that's what he meant. I was the writer. I was like, wait a minute. He very clearly is interested in her. Yeah.

But then, okay. So maybe it's wow. Exactly. Okay. Shontal rattles off.

You see Lala, you see how simple it is. He turns around and Lala is nowhere to be found. Shontal gallops back outside and calls out. Lala, girlfriend. I believe it's time for you to make you debut.

Jack, aka Lala walks in wearing a blonde wig, leopard print top, black mini skirt, black tights and leather boots. The audience screams at the outfit and Lala awkwardly twirls her hair for the hoodlums and then angrily be lines to Eric. This is crazy.

And don't call me Eric, Jack. Then, the posse makes their way over to the women and Luther asks how you do it. And stings surely Jack responds in his normal voice.

But quickly realizes his error. Shontal quickly jumps in. This is my friend, Lala. She shy. Luther clarifies with an attitude.

Well, I want to talk to just her, okay? Shontal is offended. You don't want to talk to me? And Luther bluntly breaks it to her. No.

Then, all of a sudden, Fini appears. I, however, do wish to talk to you. So does he recognize you? Yes. Okay.

So he does. He recognizes right away. And specifically calls Eric over.

“Because the character has been so supportive for seven seasons.”

So he specifically calls Eric over to insult him. Right. Just like Fini would do. Yeah. Shontal responds.

Ooh. It's Munster Fini. Ha. Don't be a Batinsky. It's a very long story.

You will not figure it out. That's Eric. What's to figure? He's pretty. And you look like a bison.

Fini shifts his attention to Eric's chest and his chest. He just disappears. He was hitting on. Right. Making the moves.

Fini calls Eric over. And then. Luther goes for it. I also, it's so funny. I don't.

Just because of the way, you know, it's, it's obviously not crystal clear on the screen. When you're watching it. The whole time I'm sitting there with Sue was like pausing and I'm like. Unbelievable. They got an extra in the background.

So much like Danielle. It is unbelievable. I'm like, that is the craziest thing. No, it was you. All right.

Yeah. It was you sitting there. But I'm like sitting there the whole time going like. Oh, my God. It's really happening in the park.

Like she looks so much like Danielle. That is crazy. And Sue's like, no, no, no. The hair shorter. I'm like, no, I don't.

It just kind of looks so much like as I know. That's definitely not. And then it goes like, oh, yeah. It's down. I'm pausing it.

I'm like, that's amazing. Yeah. Oh, that is so funny. So Phoenie shifts his attention to Eric's chest on his way out. Hmm.

Double D's. Just like your grades. Doesn't ask. Is anything wrong? What's going on?

Do you need to.

I'm always here for you, Eric.

Do you need to talk? Nope. We're going to grow. When Sean does it and check. Yeah.

It's like if they have a need to talk, which is so funny. Yeah. Because it's so. In character sensitive Phoenie. Yeah.

Yeah. Taking the serious. Yeah. No. Literally calls Eric over just to insult him.

I'm nobody is their character. No more. And this. This is when I was watching it when I made kind of a startling realization. Because first start watching the show and doing the podcast.

In my head, season seven was my favorite season. Like I thought this was the best season. I walked out going, we got, I've talked about it in interviews. We got, we were getting better as we were going on. We should have kept going.

And what I realized was I was conflating how much fun I was having on the set. Yeah. With the quality of the show. And also just how in charge of the comedy you were. You know, like the writing you were leading these storylines.

Finally, like really leading storyline with just pure comedic performances.

Right. Probably was making you feel so good. It's just unfortunately the scripts were not there to support you. And I didn't remember that at all. I remember walking away like, man, we were getting stronger.

And the scripts were getting better. And it was so funny and watching it now. It's like, oh, God, no, we were just having fun. But the scripts are, it's just a totally different show. Yeah.

Yeah. Totally. Also, the audience loves when Fini calls you a bison. But Shantal's spirit is crushed. I look like a bison.

Jacka Shersham. No, he was just saying that. Don't take it so hard. In the scene right before this. Writer, Sean calls you ugly.

You ugly. No, too much ugly. Yes. And you have zero reaction to it at all. Right.

“When Fini says the word bison, that's, that's what happens.”

And drop the accent when you get, when you get upset. I mean, like, stop speaking in French and crying and be like, wait, am I really that odd? Like making it. If it's, that's what you got. Make it a moment.

Don't keep it in that French. I'm like, why am I going to do that? When you go to, like, to panga in the other scene, have one of the thugs nearby. So that's why you can't.

Right. You have to do this to character. You said it's like, you're just choosing to stay in character to have a real emotional experience as a woman that is a really, and when again, it could have been set up if you were just insulted as Eric or, right, feel me bad about your looks as Eric.

Right. So then you're like, oh, well, at least as a woman, it's okay. And then it's like suddenly not okay. You know, like that, something. So easy to set up.

Yeah. Anything. Voices are hard, man.

Like whenever you're stuck doing a voice, like a character voice, first too long.

I know. It's like, it wears out as welcome. It does. And it's a voice actor. I can choose.

Yeah. It's something about on camera voices. Yeah. Really. I think that, you know, a lot of really good movies have fallen prey to this.

Like, even, you know, people swear by Zoolander.

“But I think part of the reason the Zoolander didn't wasn't a huge hit is because Ben's”

Taylor was doing a voice the whole time. And you know that when you know somebody's actual voice, it's very hard to buy in on them doing a character voice.

Yeah. Even a cable guy, which is a brilliant movie. Yeah. When it did not do well, commercially.

“And I think part of the reason is that Jim Kerry decided to do a voice.”

He's doing a list. And everybody knows that's not real. And it's a little hard to just buy in. It's so hard to fish reality. And I think again, in both these storylines, you guys are doing a voice the entire time.

Yeah. And it's just, you just lose your patience with the air. Okay.

And then you'll never buy it.

You'll never believe it. Well, I don't know how much more of this I can take. He turns around and burps directly into crazy Luther's face. Okay. But Sean Tolkant stopped.

I don't know how much more of this I can take. He turns around and burps directly into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps directly into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps directly into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face.

He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face. He turns around and burps into crazy Luther's face.

Luther waves a hand in front of his nose and winses. Damn. Damn. Again. I don't burp.

I don't. Yeah. I don't. It's. Sean Tolk explains.

Excuse me. It must have been the bad creep. Then cries and runs away. Now alone with La La Luther hands her. A Calily and asks.

You got a boyfriend. Jack responds in his high pitched choice. It's not a girl with us at all. Wow. Wow.

That's where he left. He went to go get the Calily. Oh, that's right. That's what it is. Luther shoots his shot.

You want one? And La La La La Le repeats herself. Positively not. Crazy Luther sits her down on the couch and says, come on, La La.

Take you places you've never been before.

La La that's out an extremely nervous laugh. But you've never been there before either. Clever. This is one long gay panic joke for the rest of the episode. Clever.

I tell you.

“I think this is the worst scene in boy meets world history.”

Yeah. This one right here. Yeah. And I think that Danielle alone with Will is second. I think the first and second more scene is in his episode.

Oh. Meanwhile, nearby Cory runs in carrying a bunch of cork knick knacks. To Penga, to Penga, you are not going to believe this one. Cork world is going out of business. Can you believe that?

To Penga doesn't get it. Cory is thrilled. Yeah. I bought everything they had. This is a cork coffee table.

Do you realize the money we're going to save on coasters? She asks, what if I want coasters? With that, he pulls him out. The money. He turns to leave.

But Dupanga wants to know where he's going.

Cory laughs. I just bought two tons of cork. Where do you think I'm going? Do you notice the books behind you, by the way? No.

Number of books about Fleetwood Mac. Really? There's music books and then just Fleetwood Macs. Rumors or dreams is behind you. Just books of it.

Let's see. What's her name back? Maybe she'll remember him. [LAUGHTER] You can't remember her name.

Nope. No, we can't. Let's see. [LAUGHTER] She answers, I wouldn't know.

And Cory Shouts wrong. Thumbtax City. He then excitedly scurries off. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

I thought I'd just button the scene. Dupanga reminds herself. You love him. Just remember you love him. Do not forget you love him.

“She walks over to the coffee counter passing right by a sobbing shantal.”

Dupanga is startled when she chimes in. At least he still finds you attractive. I just don't think the way a person looks should make them the object of ridicule. To ping a tries to comfort her by squeezing her shoulder

but when shantal turns around, she gasps. Yeesh. She quickly walks away. Because she's ugly. I'm not that ugly, right?

No, you're really not. You're actually really pretty. To the point where people are literally going, Wow. And you couldn't have clown like bad makeup.

Like bad. Like you put on your eyes. I hate to say it like mad. Like mad is overdone with his makeup. And his eyebrows are done.

And so that to me looks like a thing has been done to his face. So you're like, right? Something's off here, which is of course the reason. She's old masculine face. But you actually, they did the makeup.

So it actually makes you look like a decent looking woman. You're like, yes, there's no, it's believable. You have your passion more than he is. Yeah, so I don't understand all the ugly stuff. It's really, yeah.

It makes no sense. Well, no, you're right. You're 100% right though, didn't you? It's that I'm bigger. Right.

That's all it is. So it was that with your body, you would own automatically be an ugly woman. Yeah, that's body. He would be a pretty woman. Yes.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Back on the couch, Crazy Luther is still trying to make a move on Lala. He grabs her hand and suggests they go somewhere more private. Lala responds, "Ooh, no, no, we must get off this crazy train." Luther gets excited and throws an arm around her.

"Yeah, let's get crazy. Come on, I'm taking you to dinner." Lala follows his lead and manages to get free from his grasp and sidebar with Eric. He thinks I'm pretty and he's taking me out. Shontal breaks into hysterics again. Oh, sure, rub it in.

Lala and Crazy Luther walk off into the sunset as an accordion plays in Shontal complaints. Who's going to take me out the zookeeper? Um, also why did they go to the student union?

Why not just hang out in your dorm?

I'm going to go because. Got it. Okay. Thank you.

“Um, and then we're on the Student Union patio”

to think it is reading a book when Cory comes sprinting up. She has to come to the apartment to see what he did. She insists she doesn't have to see it, but he insists after the yellow and the cork I had an idea.

To think it is sure it's beautiful. Cory adds it was my best idea yet. Want me to tell you? To think it is sure she'll see it, but he wants to know when.

She pacifies him with some day. He's fine with that, but he needs to go back and finish then. She has hardly tells him to have fun and he reminds her on his way out. Can't wait for you to see it. She flinches and discuss and is then joined by a still sobbing

Shantel who passed Cory like two ships in the night. Shantel takes a seat at the table and when asked if she's all right, Shantel explains no to Penga. I'm not. How does to Penga think Shantel knows her?

How come to Penga? What does that do I know? She says that's her next line. She's like the outside of your way to there. I don't know.

How? You don't recognize your brother-in-law in a wig. And that lipstick on.

“With some lipstick on is it's so upside.”

Yeah. Eric quickly catches himself. You're to Penga. Everyone knows you. You're beautiful.

You have a wonderful husband who loves you.

And I'll never have a husband because I'm a shy, ugly little French girl.

To Penga insists that she's not. Even though before you recolored. Totally. And Shantel is so happy to hear that. Really?

To Penga plaster on that fake smile and laughs. We all have our problems. I mean, my husband who loves me. Also, to Penga's just going to make this about her. Just you're crying.

Listen, we all have our problems. I mean, my husband who loves me also Shantel and a repser. Korky? To Penga correct him. Korky.

Our house is Korky and yellow. And I really don't like it at all. But I don't have the heart to tell him. Shantel suggests you should. He would not want to do anything that would make you unhappy.

To Penga size.

“Still fooled by Eric barely dressed as a woman.”

But he's so excited.

Shantel insists what would make him really excited is to do something that would make you happy.

To Penga asks you think and Shantel prompts her with a question. Do you love him? To Penga admits more than anything. Shantel follows up with does he love you? To Penga reveals for our whole lives.

You also trust every time I talk to you, every single time. I lean forward and take your arm. And then I sit back. And then I lean forward and take your arm. And then I sit back.

And then I lead by the fifth one. I was like, dude, what the fuck? Like every single time I speak. I lean forward and grab your arm. And then I sit back.

And then lean forward and grab your arm. And then I sit back. It was absolutely so crazy. So Shantel declares it right then. Trust him.

It will all work out okay. To Penga earnestly thanks him for caring and Shantel notes. You seem like such a nice girl. To Penga returns the favor. So do you.

They shake hands and to Penga yells out in pain as he squeezes her hand. A little too hard. She tells Shantel it's nice to meet a new friend, especially one with such a beautiful spirit. Shantel gasps. Did you just say that I was beautiful?

To Penga contemplates her answer for a moment. And then says, yeah, I did. And I meant it. You are beautiful. This would all mean a lot more had to Penga not.

Recoiled and horror at the sight of your face. It's very much keeping with your character. Yeah, exactly. Just not finding your beautiful. It's all surface stuff.

And I'm fat. Right. Shantel's voice shakes. I am to Penga nods. Yeah.

Maybe we could be friends. I'm only friends with parties. Yeah, I noticed. Yeah. Shantel subs again.

We would be such great friends. But I'm sorry. I can't. I'm sorry. Shantel gives to Penga a little slap on the arm.

And again, she's hurt by his strength. She wonders, why not? Why can't we be friends? Well, Shantel reveals, because soon I will be gone. Either back to France or killed by Crazy Luther.

To Penga is surprised. The stereo guy? Was this? Who thought this was funny enough to be a runner? What the crazy.

The stereotype. The stereotype. Yeah. I don't know. Shantel clarified.

No. The guy who bites off the fingers. But before Shantel leaves, she wants to thank Penga one more time for calling her beautiful. She gives her new friend a big hug, rocking her head back and forth, almost suffocating her. To Penga responds, all of Washington, but she continues to cry.

I don't know what that means. But goodbye. Shantel bends down so we can see all of her skirt and in this.

I have lived back there. Because you can see your face. Yes.

“You can see your face or it's like a funny moment.”

And I cover you a dangerous skirt down. She walks off his generic French music plays in the background and to Penga looks disturbed. Later that night at the student union just returning from their date. Crazy Luther leads Lala back to the couch and she's very obviously trying to keep her distance. He cuddles up next to her and asks, "I bought you dinner and shoes.

You come and back to my place or not." Lala asks, "No. You think you can buy me for a pair of slingbacks?" Luther asks what it'll take and Jack thinks for a moment.

She finally responds, "Some hockey sticks and some baseball cleats."

It's all men stuff. Right. Because I'm a men police board so it's all men stuff. Yeah. And cars.

And everyone has a price. Luther bregs 89 fire bird T-top. She adds, "I'd want that." He quips back. Well, you wouldn't get in that.

And Jack snaps a sassy finger. Then you ain't getting nothing. Again, the inmates get rowdy, but Luther shakes it off. Fine. You're nothing but a big distraction anyway.

Lala shocked. Distraction from what? Crazy Luther answers from killing those two idiots. How's that going to do?

“As you tell your date that you're about to go kill people.”

Yeah. I love how he's just talking to people. Like in a crew, I'm going to go kill these two guys that you don't know at all.

From before that you weren't there for.

And I'm going to kill this episode. Yeah. Those two. I'm going to kill them. Like, okay.

I'm going to get a couple of my boys and pound those two. Thanks to you. I'm very frustrated. And she's screwed. Lala instantly tries to calm him down.

Oh, I wouldn't want to be responsible for any violence. What does violence solve? Luther explains. It solves that I'm not just respected in front of my boys. I will not be made to look the tool.

Yeah. I'm also looking. This is good. I think we're meeting in Lake Mr. T. I'm being pulled out of dress again.

It's totally, you're getting the derressal mode. See, like, wrestle man. Yeah. I see.

You don't want to be embarrassed in front of your pals.

Luther nods. So Jack runs with it. When Lala hears all that human talk, it gets her feeling a little snuggly. She nestles up to crazy Luther and bites her finger for emphasis.

Luther likes what he's hearing. And she calls out for Shantal. Oh, look at us.

“Aren't we just as pretty as a picture or get a camera?”

Go get a camera. Eric does as he's told and scurries off to the student store. Luther questions a camera and Lala explains, Oh, yes. I just love taking pictures. Don't you?

Luther shrugs. Whatever turns you on, baby. Then Shantal reappears with a camera. Jack commands her. Let's get a picture of Luther and I documenting our passion.

Shantal wonders why and Lala leads her friend to water. Because Luther values his reputation more than anything. And I'm sure his friends would just love to see a picture of him and me. Well, why did Eric need to be? Why didn't what? Why did they didn't think of it? It's been done.

[laughter] There are friends down in Whispers to Jack and his normal voice. But you're not even Lala cuts him off in screams. Just take the picture. Shantal does as she's told and Lala sets up Luther for the big payoff.

Pucker your lips and close your eyes and you'll get a big surprise. Luther does as he's told, blinded, but ready for a kiss. Jack whips off his wig and poses for the picture flexing his muscles to emphasize his manliness. She tells Luther to open his eyes and he's greeted by Eric now with his low-pitched voice.

Are you doing? Luther's eyes widen and he lets out a horrified grunt. It's you! Jack is unrattled. Let's discuss your reputation.

At the same time, Eric pulls off his wig. Hello! Luther threatens to kill them both, but Eric grins. I don't think so. Jack holds up the whole ride.

You even look at us wrong again. This picture is going on the school web page. Ooh, web page. And I run a headman's head page. Luther tries to steal.

[laughter] Gay panic revenge. [laughter] Luther tries to steal the picture back, but Eric snaps another picture of the two grappling for backup.

A defeated Luther gives up fine. I won't look at you wrong. Eric puts back on his wig as the bully leaves. On his way out, he looks at the vison. I won't look at you at all.

Hmm. Sean Tallberg's back. Oh, yeah. I'm beautiful on the inside. And on the inside, you're a pig.

Luther storms away. And Eric grinds up on Jack and pitting again. Hey again. Hey again. What a thing.

Same thing. Pig again. Pig and Tushie. I'll be the name of our British bar. The pig and Tushie.

You should go pop up. We'll do pop up. We'll shove these in the late night spot. We'll be able to pick it up. We'll do the Tushie dance.

Yes. The pig and Tushie.

Jack's eyes in relief.

“Man, I cannot wait to go home and get out of these clothes.”

Eric doesn't say a word. He just continues to seductively dance around. Jack asks Eric. And he responds still in his Sean Tall voice.

I've never felt so alive in my life.

I just want to. He touches his fake boobs. And continues to shimmy as the French music plays once more. And then we're outside Cory and Dupanga's apartment. Dupanga's at their front door.

Practicing what she's going to say to Cory. I just want you to know that I love you. And no matter what you did to the apartment, it's fine with me. She knows she's lying.

But she walks in anyway. And notices. There are no yellow walls. And no quirky furniture. The walls are blue.

The furniture is normal. And Cory's just lounging on a nice couch. Dupanga startled. What did you do? He scoffs.

You know. You know, you keep saying that. She looks around and declares. It's beautiful. He asks.

Oh, what? It wasn't beautiful before. She tells the truth. No. Actually, it was hideous.

Cory wonders why she didn't tell him. And she admits, because I know you. I know how much work you put into this. And I didn't want to make you feel bad. Cory explains.

Well, it's a pain guy. I know you too. I've known you my whole life. And I know you didn't like what I was doing. He doesn't have a day.

He didn't have a day. He didn't have a day. Mm-hmm. All the furniture, which they couldn't afford. Right.

Also at the beginning, which you didn't talk about the fact that he painted even the stove. And the refrigerator. And the refrigerator. But now by the end of the day, it looks like this. But they can play.

He complained for two episodes about what it wanted. What the, the stank palace it was. Oh, yeah. What it is. But half a day.

Half a day. And it looks like that. And it looks like that. Beautiful. Not sure.

Copy that. Still more believable in the A story. She says she loves it now and wants to see what else he's done. It's not enough. She runs off to the bedroom as Korea shares her.

“If there's ever something that I do that you don't love, all you have to do is tell me.”

It's not like it's going to hurt the marriage here. We're a team. And if you don't like something, then I don't like something. It's unhealthy. Okay.

She walks back into the living room. And no matter a faculty states, I don't like the mirror over the bed. But that's not going anywhere. He else tough. And in response, she playfully jumps on top of him.

I never got mirrors over the bed.

I mean, again, so you're looking. If you don't want to watch yourself having sex, that's right. Right, but then you're watching. You're on the bottom to watch to look at the things. So she'd have to be on top.

Yeah. So you'd get to see. Oh, her back, though, is what you never had. Okay. But if you did, you've watched yourself in an overhead mirror.

No, I think so. Nothing terrifies me more than the thought of myself having sex. So me too, I feel the same way. I mean, it's hard. Can we cue the video?

You, the video of right or having sex. I'm very comfortable with a lot of aspects of it. But the thought of seeing what I actually look like, horrified. Right. Oh, my God.

I just never, I never got, I mean, I can see on the side or in front of you. But I think that you read. I don't, I don't. It's like, you had to be in very specific positions for that to do any. >> No, no, no, no. >> Back at the student. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> Then you're watching herself. >> She's just in a big mirrored room, like everywhere. >> Everywhere is floor to ceiling. >> No. >> When I was a kid, the first time we looked for a place in LA, we were looking at houses in Encino to rent for the second season of Boyd Beach.

>> I remember going in with my mom and just seen in the bedroom, like giant mirror above the bed. >> Wow. >> Why would you ever? >> My mom would be like, it's a thing. >> It's a thing. >> It's a thing. >> No way. >> Oh, and a real estate agent being slightly embarrassed to show us.

>> Right, never got a choice.

>> Okay. >> Back at the student union, Jack and Sean are playing pool and Jack's putting on an over-the-top. >> Why's guy accent, as he calls his next shot? >> Overall, we got the three ball inside pocket. >> He makes the shot, but Sean just tears at him. >> Why are you talking like that?

>> Jack is offended. >> What do you mean? >> I'm a man, all right? >> This is how a man talks, and this is how a man dresses, and this is how a man walks. >> He struts while grabbing the front of his jeans. >> And this right here is how a man shoots stick.

>> He lines up his neck shot, but Sean has heard enough. >> You're over compensating. Without warning, Jack gets defensive with a student walking by.

“>> What are you looking at? You want to piece of me, my friend?”

Get out of my eyesight. >> Sean notes, "I bet Eric's adjusting to his manhood better than you." >> On cue, Eric walks in, still dressed as Sean tall. >> Hello! >> Sean admits, "Maybe not."

>> Sean tall announces, "Hello, YouTube boys. It is such a beautiful day outside, but not as beautiful as me on the inside." >> Jack reminds him there in the clear. He doesn't have to be a woman anymore. >> Eric's fully aware, but he just discovered how beautiful he is,

so he's decided to stay like that forever. Even though, on the inside, you could still be you.

Yeah. >> He looks off in the distance. It's so satisfying and rewarding to be in touch with one's feminine side. Sean and Jack stare in disbelief. Then a cute girl walks by, and Eric immediately reverts back to his normal voice.

Now I'm going to get in touch with her feminine side, so excuse me. He calls after her in the French accent, "Hello, we can be best friends." Then he switches back to Eric, "Come on, everyone experiments in college." >> I hate to say, "I think I had the bet." >> I think that one's on there.

>> I think you're probably right. >> Yep. That one's on there. >> Well, there was an episode, guys. That's an episode of boys as well.

“You would remember more about this episode well, then I think writer I did,”

you had been for a few seasons ago, you started saying, "Oh, there's an episode where you remembered hating it." >> Yeah, I hated doing this. This is very rarely did I read an episode and hate what I had to do that week. It was rare because I was like, "All right, I'll find the comedy here.

I'll do this. I hated this.

I hated this from the second I read it.

I fought with Michael about it. I hated this. I truly, truly hated this. >> I feel sad for those of us on that screen. >> Yeah, yeah.

>> Yeah, I'm very glad that I had such a small part this week. >> Yeah. >> Just make a sandwich and give some pool. >> Yes. >> Hemoscurt.

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