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Christy Nome has been deported from the Department of Homeland Security along with her top advisor and reported Fuck buddy Corey Lewandowski Oh man Trump announced that he's nominating Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullin former MMA fighter To replace her and that no one will become quote special envoy for the shield of the Americas

Our new security initiative in the western hemisphere we are announcing on Saturday in Darrell, Florida I thank Christy for her service at in quotations homeland

If you're wondering what finally led to Nome's firing

Let's start with a fun compilation from her dual appearances before the Senate and House Judiciary committees this week Have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski Mr. Chairman. I am shocked that we're going down in pedaling tabloid garbage

“I know you said it's garbage and it may be but I really think you need to say the word no into the record”

So that you can clear that up. I think the ridiculousness of this and the tabloids that you are quoting and referencing are insane and this has been So that's a no I think that I've refuted. Is that a nose and I continue to do that? So tonight we used a 737 I've been on it once but it is being used by other administration officials and it is used for commanded control flight What kind of deportee Justifies being flown out of the country in a luxury jet with a bedroom and accommodations

Like this a 14 month old dog is basically a teenager in dog years you decided to kill that

Invest in the appropriate time and training and then you have the audacity to go into a book and say it's a leadership lesson About tough choices those are bad decisions made in the heat of the moment not on white What happened up in Minneapolis And I would you wanted to say to that I wear it or to the family when I do that after you called them domestic parents What they have gone through in the loss of their son and the loss of their family members

But how about specific calling them domestic terrorists without any evidence of that Sir, I demand I did not call him a domestic terrorist. I said it appeared to be an incident of

“I think the parents saw it for quite a while”

I don't know what you did and I think she nailed it. I mean just top-notch performance all the way around

Wow, I mean we've heard all those clips. We've even talked about them on on YouTube but just every time it just it really hits to and that's just I mean It would have been we would have been here for an hour we could have played so many more. It was hard to pick Yeah, and yet of all those The straw that really broke the camel's back

Like the one that you probably shot also Was this exchange With Republican Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana Republican Senator. Let's play how do you Square that concern for waste which I share With the fact that you have the

Spent 220 million dollars Running television advertisements That feature you prominently

“Serve the president tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the”

Invasion come from that has been extremely effective as you To run these ahead of attachments, is that right we had that conversation yes before I was put in this position in sworn in and confirmed and since then as well. Okay. Did you Did you bid out those those service contracts? Yes, they did they went out to a competitive bid and career officials at the department chose who would do those advertising commercials my memory search shows that you did not bid them out that

You in fact one of the people you picked The strategy group. I'm sorry say for America media was a company Formed 11 days before You picked them and that the strategy group got most of the money and the head of that is Mering to your former spokesperson

That would be Trisha McLaughlin Who we have spoken about before on this program once or twice. I'm gonna be I've tweeted about it Two times as well. That's her husband Who got the contract? Sorry the sub contract

Because the real con because he had no connection to the firm who got the real contract because that firm was created just 11 days before

Usually the government likes to give money to recently form shell corporations Now if you happen to miss these ads that Chrissy Nome used $220 million of your your hard-earned tax dollars To create an air

“Here's one that a apparently set trump off. Why do I love these wide open spaces?”

They remind me of why our forefathers came here not just for its beauty, but for the freedom only America provides I'm Chrissy Nome What? What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, I mean having watched I saw that ad many many times For ball games another sporting events

But just watching it here in this context. It's very clear that it doesn't like the whole point was you tell people to self-support like that was the Idea them there's don't think there's a lot of evidence that television advertising is a good way to convince people to do that But even this ad does not actually tell them to do that No, it's just a political ad for her in her home state where she wants to probably Maybe reportedly run for Senate in front of Mount Rushmore on a fucking horse who should probably then shop

So I don't know if everyone caught the moment in her exchange with Senator Kennedy who could use some caffeine himself was a little slow

“Where that that really ended it for her which is when he was like, oh, did you talk to trump about these ads?”

And she said yes, and he's called Trump approved these ads. He said yes, so apparently trump did not or at least Trump says he did not approve these ads And when Trump heard about that from Senator Kennedy who then called him and asked him if what Christina said was correct and Trump said no

And then Trump got so angry that he called Reuters and told them I never knew anything about this and then today

Thursday That was it that was it for Christina Are you surprised that this is what finally did her in after all that we've talked about about everything that Christina Has fucked up in her tenure as Homeland Security Secretary in a normal country with a normal president the Murder of and smearing of to American citizens by the Department of Homeland Security would be the fireable offense

Yeah, the key in Appings rendering people to a foreign tortured dungeon Just incompetent chaos all over the place. Yeah, a lot of it a lot of stuff to do all the cruelty and then the incompetence even in executing the cruel missions like complete Shit you all around but in Trump's world It is corruption and graph that does not involve temp and so that is what bothered me

And I will say watching this love it and I did YouTube rep response on this after the Senate hearing and Kennedy does masterfully walker into the trap Yes, he likes sets it up Talks about the ads get sort of say it she kind of like

implies yes, but doesn't say yes, and then he follows up and asks and then when she kind of this sort of says yes in next time Then he's like oh really I find that surprising I can't imagine the president or Russ vote the head of oh and be signing off on $200 million of ads to

Improve your name ID and like you in that moment it felt like her date like her days were probably always number but particularly number there because

Everyone can see the trap happening and she walks right into it Yeah, and it's all it's not only corruption that doesn't involve him It's corruption that she blamed on him and Leverage him for like he's in those ads, right like He's in those ads in a way that seems but he's second

He's second fiddle in that ad. He's not the top of the movie professor for these ads, but like say you say she She was lying she didn't ask Trump about the ad. She did the ads the ads pissed him off. He was annoyed about the ads What you do in Trump world is you fall on the sword and you say oh no, I just did that on my own and and then he probably keeps you at that point Yeah, because he doesn't mind having a bunch of fuck ups around him. He does mind having people around him who then Point the finger at him

That's like that is the only rule in the Trump world you do not blame Donald Trump for anything Donald Trump is perfect in every way Donald Trump can do no wrong

“But the thing with Christy known is and it's really like this is the key to explain everything is that she is particularly dumb”

Oh, yeah, like she didn't mean she didn't like think she was blaming him like she that's like a moment Right, yeah, she's just like there's this incredible lack of self awareness and how she has done everything no sense of how she's actually being perceived By anyone else and it's like every person in that room Every person watching on TV is this happening is watching Kennedy marcher into this trap

And the only person who doesn't see what's coming is Christy know

Even Corey Lewandowski probably is always happening. You know probably didn't see who what was happening her husband

Because he famously is not seeing what's happening, but was sitting right behind her the whole time

Because she was under oath and there's been a lot of like blowback to this and some places online like she being shamed

“You're like do what those are personal life matter, but here's the thing and this is it's a fucking she's sleeping with a subordinate”

Of course you're your personal matters and that's a situation it matters for anyone in any job and it's not like he was a subordinate And then they just fell into love through the shared passion for mass deportation. He was her boyfriend. She hired him at taxpayer dollars

gave him an incredibly sketchy job that allowed him and a gun and a gun. Well, he never got the gun, right?

He just got the bad gun. I thought he just got the badge. Oh, there's some dispute there, but in either way But gives him this incredibly sketchy job that allows him to circumvent all ethics and security Clarences to just read all of his ethics requirements and give him two full to brandage his gun to brandage his gun on the back of the plane Are you seeing air quotes for gun? Yeah, okay, just check it. I meant penis a Good, so it's like it is quite relevant here like he had basically all the reporting shows

He's the he basically was running the department Yeah, he all the sessions everything came through him some of the reporting now since the firing was announced Points out that yes the hearings were like the final straw, but you know, it's did's they said according well

This is what the White House is trying to say now

But that like Trump started sourring on her Around the pretty and good killings and her going out and calling them domestic terrorists again Not because Trump thinks that she was wrong to do that, but that it caused the White House all this trouble And all this political trouble and all the stories about the corruption and the Lewandowski affair apparently bothered Trump as well Which we saw in the right about in the Wall Street Journal story about the two of them so I do think it was a number of things

That sort of built up to this for him which in the same way that like if Pam Bondi gets fired at some point You're gonna be like well, there was a there's a whole bunch of things that led up to whatever she finally does that gets her fired if that happens So Mark Wayne Mullin Oklahoma Senator who by the way Also after Alex Pretty was murdered said that he was there to cause you know Maximum he was violence or something. Yeah, that he was there to cause maximum violence or terrorism

Whatever because that's something very similar to what Nome said and Miller. Do you think he gets confirmed pretty easily and

“How would you advise Democrats to handle his confirmation here?”

I presume it's not going to be hard to get 50 Republicans to vote for him Maybe they're gonna end John Fetterman who already said he said he and John and stuff elements are you only for you?

Never really which means if she wants it Susan Collins can take a pass on this and

Separate herself from it even though this is not going to solve for political problems on ice and she's the one who writes the ice funding bills I think Democrats so yeah, I mean, like they confirmed a Fox News host to be the head of the Pentagon and an Anti-Vax guy who put a dead bear in the back of his car to be he'd church of health and human services so anything is possible here. I think for Democrats We should use this as an opportunity to Highlight

Because they're we cut their high profile confirmation hearings. They're gonna be there'll be the vote here There'll be the beta round it reporting around it use it to highlight All of our arguments against ice And everything Trump is doing and the problems with how they've handled things and it can everything from what happened in Minnesota To the detention centers to the U.S. citizens and legal residents who have been detained

Some cases for weeks at a time just across the board the mass surveillance use You know the surveillance techniques and the facial recognition used to track protesters and things like that like use it Here's a chance to raise a silly answer something that we should something we should be making a strong argument about and then Yeah, every single person apparently not named John Federman should vote against this person because here's the one that I can promise you I don't I give two fucks about Senate collegiality because you used to slowly work out next this person on the treadmill at the Senate gym

Which is how we ended up Mark and Rubio and I'm getting ninety nine votes. Yeah, there's just no way that you're gonna feel good One month or two months or three months from now for voting for Donald Trump's DHS secretary hundred percent. I mean, it is it is ins absolutely insane to vote for this man and I assume I've heard

“I would be shocked if anyone other than John Federman voted for him honestly me to me too”

And I would be like I think you could see Colin's and Mercowski perhaps not vote for him as well, but like even someone like tell us who Really doesn't like no one was calling for her resignation. I bet tell us votes. Yeah, this is well in his eyes and improvement He got me wanted, but I and I agree with you that that's that's the focus. I would also like focus on One or two issues. I would try not to do like a whole smorgasporative things with mollum like you want a story coming out of that

All Americans and legal residents being violated by ice and and people in the violence that they're committing and the horrible

“Conditions like I would try to narrow in on that and and you know”

Try to get answers from him on both things that the administration is hiding from us and then hasn't been for you know forthcoming about like are we getting an independent investigation into these murders What's happening in some of these detention centers, but also like you know put him on record making promises that he will you know Then break but at least Have them on record saying under oath saying that he'll do certain things or he'll uphold certain rights

It used to be you could use these hearings to extract promises right but for people to release certain reports of sorts of things But he won't need a single democratic vote not for anyone other in federal men

And so even if you ask for he's not gonna say yes because he doesn't need your vote

Now, I don't think that he is somehow a Better person than known or is going to have like a run a kind of her gentler DHS But I do wonder if they will use the transition and the new The fact that there's a new secretary to do some window dressing on DHS to try to make it seem like Mullin is writing the ship, but what do you think like do you expect DHS to look

“Any different under under Mark Wayne Mullin, then it has under Christina. I think there's a chance it'll look less chaotic and stupid”

Just the way DHS was run under Christina and Macquarie Lewandowski was insane like when you read the stories about how they ran the department Cori Lewandowski approving every single contract for everything like over a thousand dollars just like insanity I think that it will be a More effective department in terms of probably executing on what Donald Trump wants He said we want a Chrissy known at the top, but it will not be a better department in the way in which we want to be a better department

But although the thing I would say is that Donald Trump Does it really understand why Chrissy know him failed so bad like yes? He was a particularly stupid Particularly in experience unqualified person for this job and he picked her because he thought she was good on TV He's making the same estate with Mark Wayne Mullin Mark Wayne Mullin ran a plumbing business before he entered politics

Which is totally fine like we probably want more plumbers in Congress, but he has no actual expertise in any of the issues that DHS does He's not even on the committee In the Senate and he also does doesn't have maybe some like the rest of the cabinet secretary's right right He needs also to say have any management experience either right and that is a Beast of a department to manage and he in Trump picked him because he thought he's gonna Fox News

So it is the same he's committing the same sin again

Maybe it'll turn out better this time, but he doesn't understand why the first choice went so poorly and again Steven Miller still the boss

Yeah, boss of Pete Higgs F. Boss of Pambondi boss of Christy Nome and now Mark Wayne Mullin and Jady Vance also boss in Jady Vance, right? I mean, he didn't really have a boss anyway because he doesn't do anything except shit post Pasever America is brought to you by built no one likes paying rent But built makes it feel a little better built is the loyalty program for renters that rewards you monthly with points and exclusive benefits in your neighborhood

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Okay, so Christine, I'm getting shit canned. Only briefly stole the spotlight from the biggest story in the world right now Trump's new war in the Middle East, which has become a global crisis That spread all the way from the Indian Ocean where the US sunk in Iranian Navy ship near India to Turkey Where NATO forces shot down an Iranian missile more than 1,300 people have died so far

Mostly in Iran, but also in Lebanon Israel and all the other Gulf nations that have been here Missiles have rained down on not just military targets, but embassies airports hotels hospitals Schools travel and commerce in the region. Is it a standstill oil prices keep surging causing markets to tank Thousands of Americans are still stranded in the Middle East trying to get home and of course Six American soldiers have died in a war for which Trump and Republicans have offered no time limit no price tag

No exit plan and no coherent answers about what the goals are why we attacked or even whether the war is actually a war Let's listen to the cascade of bullshit from the administration from and Republicans from just the last few days We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks We would suck for higher casualties

“Israel was right to strike Iran and that's why we needed to get involved today the president said that no Iran was going to get yeah”

Your statement is false. So that's not what he I was asked very specific will you there yesterday? Yes, okay I might have forced to hand You see we were having negotiations with these lunatics and

It was my opinion that they were gonna attack first if we didn't do it first

And they would have done it to Israel. They have declared war on us. We're not at war right now We have declared war they declared war on us They called it war when I was saying it okay, well, that was a miscloth. We're doing very well on On the war front to put it mildly I would say Somebody said on the scale of 10 will would you ready to say it about a 15? I guess the worst case would be we do this and then

Somebody takes over who's as bad as the previous person right that could happen Jesus, right that could happen so clear his day We attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran but also because Iran was going to attack us But also we're not at war, but also the war is going well, but also we may just end up with an Iranian regime that's even worse than before

“That all makes sense to you, Dan. How are you feeling about all this?”

Not great. I'd say I mean it is

Like in some ways, it's not surprising that Donald Trump who has never read a briefing

Pay attention in a briefing has any sense of world history military strategy the Middle East would get this wrong in every opportunity Like he's in the back of the head. We know that but the fact that no one else in the administration Marker Rubio, Pete Higgs, Seth, I was going to say the national screwdriver, but that's also Marker Rubio can explain why were there

What we're doing what happens next? What victory looks like is something bigger than a communications problem? It's not that they lack a message, and they don't have a strategy. There's no plan. They did not think this through The military had to plan to blow things up and they have clearly done that quite successfully But that's the full extent of the plan. There is no actual ideal like it really is

One day it's regime change the next day it's not regime change Today Donald Trump told Axios that he wanted to have a hand in picking the next ayatola And he does not like he's leading candidate right now It's so we need a good we need a great ayatola. I'm gonna have the best ayatola in there It's gonna be you wouldn't believe the ayatolism looking at

Yeah, he's he wants in a radiant delcy. It's basically what he's saying referring to talking about picking an ayatola Like it's the fucking curtains for his ballroom Yeah, but it's we're not in charge there. We don't we don't have control of it like what and then something I don't want to take our advice after we're reigning down missiles and bombs on them That's like one day where we're gonna arm the Iraqi the Kurds in Iraq to come over and fade the next day

We're telling people to like there's just no

Plan and it really like this is was always the nightmare

They're what like and also just for what is worth he said he had a feeling they were going to attack us just

Defeeling but that the I get a trust you got to trust your instinct on these things

“I think that country might attack us. Let's let's invade but it is a live”

Bigger than any of the lies told by George W. Bush Dick Cheney Donald Rump's felt in the run up to the last Iraq war. It's just it like they're just lying all the time It's a hide the fact that they have no idea what the fuck they're doing in a war in the Middle East That is causing chaos stranding American citizens having troops die and spiking oil prices all the same time To one of the most to be charitable to the administration

Which we do on this podcast which we got love to do you know maybe the the most coherent explanation Was given by Rubio at one point. Yes, he's sort of gone back and forth on a You know what they say about broken clocks, right?

Yeah, he's tried out a few different rationales as well, but basically he's saying okay

So we know that Iran wanted to develop a nuclear weapon Of course we obliterated their nuclear sites, but not really

“They they they've already tried to rebuild at one point Trump says they were two weeks away”

That's crazy. That's a lie no one thinks that someone else says maybe they were a year away That's so that's shifting whatever, but anyway, let's say Iran still wants to build a nuclear weapon So then Rubio says well, they want to build a nuclear weapon They're also Turning out all of these

Ballistic missiles and conventional weapons so that they basically can can put up a shield around their country So that no one can attack them for trying to build a nuclear weapon So that they can build their nuclear weapon in peace While they have this all these missiles to protect themselves from when we try to bomb them to stop them from creating a nuclear weapon So and that is the so that's the most charitable

And it is still fucking bonkers There we go. It still makes no sense. It makes no sense Like so you're gonna have you're gonna have so many ballistic missiles and conventional weapons that That's going to stop the United States and potentially other NATO allies or other countries around the world From attacking like which we already did

Yes, we'll be the point. Yes, the nuclear sites. So what the fuck are you talking about like and if that is the rationale

Then when do we know when do we know that we have destroyed enough missiles and a country of 90 million people

Where probably most of the regime except for you know the dozen or so senior leaders that they that we've killed already Is still intact what what's what's the plan there? And look, I saw in financial times There was like an Israeli official that went on background and was basically like look If there's a new regime great if not whatever if it's a worse regime if it's a better regime That's fine if it's just chaos if it's civil war if the Kurds come in any kind of chaos is good with us because it will

Degrade their ability to develop a nuclear weapon or at least take their focus and attention off that for a while that that that that was the A plan from the Israeli official

“That's what we want is a giant failed state of 92 million people in the middle of the Middle East”

Just we're just gonna so chaos how long it will last what it will lead to we don't know we can't say But you know, it it it seems like what Trump wants to do in his mind is in a couple weeks or apparently central command said they're asking for military officials to come help them out It's central command through September of this year. It said in political but anyway So a couple weeks months whatever it is and then Trump declares victory

We're done. We did it. We look look we obliterated their nuclear sites We got rid of all of their ballistic missiles or we got rid of enough of them and then we're we're gone. We're done. We win And the bet then is that the chaos and the killing and the repression and everything else we unleash in the Middle East because of this Just won't be the focus of our attention Any more once the bombing stops that seems like that's his bet

I mean that is a potential short-term political solution to a Problem that's much better than politics yeah like think about what you've unleashed in the Middle East under all those Serious well also Trump's probably like yeah, I won't be around by the time it bites us in the asking

I'll be out of office. I can't I probably say him or who said as I heard someone say that there's some it was a Middle East scholar somebody was saying that like there's there are whole generations of a radiance who were coming up Who wanted a more modern Iran who Really didn't have antipathy towards the United States Right that was from a different

Generation and now They all will because we've been blowing up their homes for five days

Originally thought maybe it was in Israeli missile now the New York Times just has a new piece put it together and think that it's it An all likelihood it was a US attack that did it so that's something that we did Medical centers hospitals bombed just killing people left and right just and then also the destruction that's happened in all these other Gulf countries For what for what because so we know we can answer that question. We so we killed the 86 year old Supreme leader who may now be replaced by his son even though Trump doesn't like the son

Maybe they'll kill the son who knows then there'll be someone else like what what It's just the idea that we are going to Bomb and kill these people into submission and that is going to create a peaceful Middle East is just It's fucking insane and not born out by any evidence throughout any of history Yeah, it's just it like you just they can't answer like two follow questions on this

“Where it's like oh, we want regime change. Well, how's that going to happen? Who's going to be in charge?”

What kind of regime is this going to be? Are they are we going to do anything to ensure that it's a regime? Is it a democracy? I mean Trump did say one of his you know 19 random phone calls were the porters who happened to call him that he wanted freedom for the Iranian people

Was his first thing he said? He definitely doesn't want that they they're caring about that for sure for sure

They are probably hoping that They can get and and I figure where I was reading this but there's like basically You know two factions in around in the regime and one is you know We were press our people at home and then also were very aggressive outwardly to the rest of the world and the other is We have a detent with the rest of the world and we still

Press the hell of other people at home, right and Trump clearly doesn't care if the around about the Iranian people at all He clearly doesn't care if the violence and repression continues there What he hopes is that maybe he'll find a regime that's corrupt enough to do a deal with the West with the United States

“And they can go on doing whatever they want to the Iranian people at home. That's his probably best scenario now”

Even that's not something that you can just fucking plan out. That's just hope hopefully that's where everything lands We don't know We don't know on Tuesday show we played Trump

Responding to the first American casualties in the war with quote

That's the way it is likely be more Pete hexeth was arguably even more callous and offensive on Wednesday when he scolded the press For hurting the president's political standing by reporting on the deaths of American troops Here's what he said

Followed by Caroline Levitt's angry defensive hexeth during her briefing. This is what the fake news misses We've taken control of Iran's airspace and waterways without boots on the ground We control their fate But when a few drones get through Or tragic things happen

It's front page news I get it the press only wants to make the president look bad, but try for once to report the reality Hexeth was complaining that it was front page news About these six the service numbers who were killed

That's not what the secretary said, Caitlyn and that's not what the secretary meant

In you know it you know you're being disingenuous there is not we've never had a secretary of defense

Who cares if you're going to get through a tragic things happen. It's front page news I get it the press only wants to make the president look bad. Yeah Do you know we the president that's of you a service numbers under every president the press does only want to make the president look bad That's a that's a fact Listen to me especially you and especially CNN good for Caitlyn Collins

So I don't want to give political advice to the White House here, but I'm not sure The most effective response to Americans dying in the Middle East is going to be the think about all the American soldiers who weren't killed Which is basically what he wants the press to report. You know you don't talk about any of the good stuff

“You just talk about a you know an errant drone or tragic things happening. I mean what the fuck?”

Yeah, it's check how to be not see that that like like that was not but that wasn't hexeth off the cuff That was a reading a statement Here here's how that is because to be Trump to work for Trump to be a Trump superhero fan is to only be able to see the world through Trump's eyes To view everything in the context of how it affects Donald Trump is a good for Donald Trump as a bad for Donald Trump and that

Disease is so prevalent that it even applies to the death of American troops who serve under Pete Higgseth He is the secretary of defense and he can only see the death of troops who died in part because the plant did a very poor job of planning for this war Yes, because they were in a by reports. They were in a Unarmored un fortified trailer as attacks were Being launched attacks that we we chose we picked the timing of them

Something that is bad for Trump

Not what's bad for these families not for these people in the that families and young kids

“Here yeah, but what's bad for Donald Trump and that's it and that's all that matters. That's all they can think of and it's it's honestly perverse”

We should note that the the reason Trump has Unilaterally taken this country to war is because Republicans in Congress and now a few Democrats have voted to let him In the Senate Republicans this week blocked a vote on a war powers act resolution that would have stopped Trump's military action in Iran unless Congress explicitly authorized it John Fetterman was the only Democrat to vote with the Republicans

And ran Paul was the only Republican to vote with the Democrats in the house Only four Democrats voted against the resolution and It did of course fail And none of the two that we screamed about last week. I was gonna say Jared Mosquitz and Josh Godheimer Changed their minds good for them and Mosquitz did a really I thought long thoughtful statement about why he

Did it he did. I know I know I have you have everyone has the right to change their mind and if you do so when you explain it Kudos to them, but These aren't the last votes Congress will likely face on the war

“Trump officials have said that they're probably gonna send what's known as an emergency supplemental”

Funding request to Congress aka give us more money for the war

Reportedly with the price tag of 50 billion dollars with a B

This is after Congress already approved nearly $1 trillion in defense spending since Trump took office last year And if that makes you angry get ready for the lead of this political story about the extra war funding quote Some Democrats aren't ruling out voting for a multi-billion dollar military infusion Setting up a potential internal clash in the weeks ahead You want to tee off on this one day? I do

This is Indy legal regime change war of choice being conducted by a corrupt Timpot dictator who is unable or unwilling to explain to us why we're in this war what we're doing or what victory looks like The idea that we would give him funding

To pay for this war To do that would be to take every last bit of power and influence that the Congress has it to hand it to the president This is the only check available to this president that we could possibly do it and to see that Would be to validate every Criticism fair and unfair that people have had about Democrats since Trump was elected it would be a truly

In-sane thing to do Yeah, I think I mean I am going to Give Democrats here The benefit of the doubt and that maybe they're just thinking through things Maybe they didn't want to go on the record or they did talk to the reporters about this

Someone on the record some of them on the record. Yeah, and maybe they'll change their mind just like Jared Mosquitz and Josh Godhammer changed their mind so maybe they maybe they'll come around But I do think voting for funding on this war would be Perhaps the most catastrophic vote of your career I really do and so I've heard of people you know, so it's people on the armed services committee

Democrats on the armed services committee. I guess that were the focus of this political piece They they have a list of slacking Which I was surprised about on record saying she's like well, you know, I'm thinking about it But we're in it now You know, I don't like this war, but we're in it some some version of that and

I've seen people say well, you know during Iraq a lot of Democrats voted for Supplemental funding bills Because they wanted to make sure that even though they hated the war and they were opposed to the war and Iraq and they wanted the war and Iraq to end That you can't just leave the troops in the field Without armor or without the funding they need because that puts troops in danger and like

First of all back then I always find that argument a little you know

The idea that a vote in the in the Congress is suddenly they're gonna run out of money and yeah But at least then the troops were In battle they were on the ground in Iraq hundreds and hundreds of thousands of American troops right and so you could make an argument that You can't just withdraw all at once immediately and you need some extra funding. I get it right

“We're also there's a bigger point here than that that's what I'm saying that's yes the bigger point here is like”

This is just money to keep bombing Iran which Donald Trump can stop any second he wants Leaving no American soldier at risk at all But I think there's an even bigger point than that which is that was an authorized war Congress there was a precedent which Congress president asked for authorization the Congress gave it to him

This war has no domestic legal framework at all is an illegal war

“Violated with international law violation of domestic law against the Constitution no clear rationale”

President who's a fucking criminal like what are we doing? Yeah, it's just the Like you can we can argue and I and I'll take that criticism that even even Barack Obama is the Senate shouldn't have voted for something These are these are apples and fucking oranges these are two different situations This is a war of choice and it's not even they can't even the whole process is so fucked up that they have to stop themselves from saying the word war Because to do so is to admit to the illegality of what they're doing

The choice should be if you want money for this war come try to get authorization for it We're not gonna fund any legal war that you could end any day you're choosing So it's like you're asking us to First of all you got a trillion dollars over the last year at the Pentagon

You're now asking us to pony up another fifty billion dollars at a time when

People can't afford groceries a home their health care so the Donald Trump and BB Netanyahu

“Can keep dropping bombs on a country of 90 million people because they think that's how you bring about peace in the Middle East”

What the fuck are we talking about? Yeah, how do you even consider voting for that I? I would I I believe in the end the overwhelming. I do it. I agree of Democrats will vote against this as John Federman obviously will Maybe one or two others will I certainly hope not? I plan to yell about that at every platform available to me if they do that Because it's it is truly

Insane and it should be the the Democratic leadership Should not be trying to manage the caucus here they should right they should be Lobbing members to vote against it should be the position of the Democratic party The house in the said that we are not gonna vote for this for the reasons we just laid out and if other if people do it

That that can happen where you're always gonna have members. They have ran Paul. We have John Federman, but

This yours if these if it feels like two voters that the Democratic party the Democratic leadership is okay with this Then that is catastrophic even for the people who voted against it Yeah, because I just it's it's bad enough If you're like a John Federman who supported the war and is gonna vote to fund it and as well That that to me is insane anyway. It's ideal actually. It's insane, but it it's ideal

Yeah, it's coherent the idea that someone who like all the rest of the Democrats have said it's an illegal war that they oppose You would say this illegal war now that we're in it. I must vote just fund it with taxpayer dollars that it's it is It's also just weak You know that maybe that's like the least of the problems, but it just makes you look so fucking weak

“I am going to believe that in the end a list of slack and it's gonna vote against meets I mean, that's why I can't I'm like if you just wanted to you know”

Politico reporter caught you in the hall and you were ready to say anything whatever. That's fine. It's kind of happening I go and see it and it seems and well and it was very I was I thought it was weird because Guyagos answer was well at least half of the funding Would have to come from the other countries in the Gulf because we're we're not paying But I'm like why are the other countries in the Gulf didn't ask for this fucking worry there and now they're getting hit Then he tweeted that he was definitely not voting for it. So I saw that no, no, which is which is good

But I'm just like what what's everyone doing here? It's a no it's a no so the thing is causing a billion dollars a day a

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So obviously as we said headset the gnome are doing all the heavy lifting this week when it comes to cabinet members embarrassing the White House and themselves

But Pam Bondi she's out there saying hey, don't forget about me Due to popular demand

“She'll now be doing an on-core performance of last month's congressional testimony and by popular demand”

We mean that five Republicans on the oversight committee Voted with all the Democrats to subpoena Bondi for her handling of the Epstein files Notably the 50,000 documents DOJ has reportedly withheld including those related to unverified claims of sexual misconduct against a minor by Epstein and Trump himself The New York Times and other outlets also report out Wednesday that DOJ has been forced to abandon the case They were reportedly trying to build against Joe Biden and his top aides for their use of the presidential autopant

So fucking stupid since federal prosecutors in Janine Piro's DC office couldn't find any evidence of a crime. Oh no shit

The Times also just reported that Lindsey Halligan the Trump defense attorney he appointed to indict Jim Komi and Tisch James after all the other real prosecutors Refused is now under investigation by the Florida Bar Association for the Nakedly political prosecutions she attempted and could potentially lose her law license Bondi's DOJ just crushing it Dan Let's start with the subpoena

I'm actually a little surprised we're getting another round of Bondi hearings I was assuming these were closed or Depositions you think so that was that was that my assumption was it was like this was similar to the Hillary Brooklyn now we will see more probably see video of it, but it was similar similar process

But what would what do you think the the focuses is is it just these most recent files that came down including the Trump stuff because

“Yeah, I think it is the fight why the files haven't been released. I think it's chain of custody on the files”

I think now she's gonna be a physician where she's also gonna ask questions about Glenn Maxwell any up at the country club the All the whole process about which they came to be the release was compelled and most nuts and I think there is something here Any it is the sort of consistent thread between what happened to gnome with john Kennedy what's happening here to Pam Bondi is

There are I'm not saying Republicans are breaking with Trump. They are not but they are finding place They are desperately looking for places to show some measure of independence Yeah, and in this case Nancy may actually surprise them by this was like They didn't know this was coming so and then they were just like forced to make a decision Which I think is probably pretty hard for these Republicans to make a decision on the spot

But there is something about where they are trying to find places to Trump Trump's weakness is like and is now becoming more manifest and how they respond to his Cabinet Secretary of Justice. Yeah, yeah, you know on all the rest the failing to You know bring an indictment or even a case against Biden Lindsay Hall again the other failures of them trying to indict people the grand jury failures

Like on one hand it'd be fun to see Bondi go the way of Christy Nome on the other I do think that the fact that her incompetence has led to such an epic losing streak for Trump's political revenge tour that I don't know maybe we might be better off if he keeps Bondi it Do you know Jay? I don't know what you think there. Yeah, there's There's no good person he's putting in he's that he's not putting appointing someone who's not going to do

Bullshit political vengeance investigations like that's not rather I'd rather I don't want someone more effective. Yeah, I'm not sure that any person could effectively do what Trump wants He is at the other day. He's asking his attorney general To prosecute people for crimes they did not commit and in some cases for things that are not actually crimes

Like that that is that's what is stopping it and the problem is Trump not the person like I think she's particularly bad at her job

If she stays or who can't like I don't really care if she stays or goes because as we see with this market when Well in situations you're just going to get someone who shares Trump's odious views It is maybe slightly more effective at implementing those odious views right and it's still reporting to Steven Miller Essentially so somehow Tuesday night's primaries already feel like ancient history It's Thursday afternoon as we're recording this

But we haven't had the chance to talk about the results on this show in Texas Maga World has already started previewing how they're going to go after James Telerico who beat Jasmine Crocket This includes resurfacing Telerico's old tweets. It's always the old tweets to getcha About black lives matter where he said that racism is a virus that white people spread everywhere we go And a video from 2021 on the Texas House floor where Telerico said God is non-binary

He also talked about others Technically six genders. There's a whole bunch of them whole bunch of drinks. What do you make of the attacks so far? How do you handle them if you're Telerico? They don't actually worry me that much Every Democrats are going to face some version of this. I think Telerico's particular. If you were alive between

2017 and 2021 it had access to the internet

I've never been a Republican as a similar

I've really got a lot of Democrats to just try to take a mulligan on all those tweets And ever Republican had like the things Republicans have tweeted about January 6 so much rather stuff also problematic I think Telerico handles it the way he's handling so campaign which is don't hide from it taking a head on Be out there all the time always be communicating go into unfriendly territory to talk about it take Questions about it go on right wing radio go on Christian radio

“Do you know do that Jubilee debate again do do things where you're just like the worst thing you can do is just is a band in the strategy”

They got you the nomination which was to be sort of someone who was always available on to present It just stick with that like he he won this nomination But he's still an underdog in the Senate race and so he's got to always play He's you know, he's got an embrace risk and do things just like be out there and talk about it I don't think it's I really don't think it's that hard because he is someone who is gonna be very hard to paint as a radical

If people get exposed to him because he comes off is such like a

Like a down-to-earth common sense conciliatory person. It is honestly an advantage Obama always had was they would paint him as it's like

Radical muslim who's coming to like implement Sharia law in your neighborhood then you like see him on TV And he just seems like I had pretty normal guy and I think Telerico has that same asset in this race. I do think the added challenge Telerico faces that someone like Azor and Maldani or maybe he's in Texas or a grand platter right? You know doesn't face as much as that he's in Texas and

in a smaller state or city or somewhere like that You can sort of pierce people's Perceptions of you by just meeting them in person and in Texas You know you can meet a lot of people in Texas, but it's gonna be ads that do it at some point And it's gonna be and it's gonna be what he's been doing which is organic

“Social content I think a little bit in this race although he did not win”

I think a little bit about our old friend Jason Kander and He was some of they tried to paint him as a giant radical It is Missouri Senate race in 2016, but he doesn't come off that way and You know if you can in Telerico, I think it's particularly good at fighting high profile ways for people to see him and I do think the way he talks about his faith is very

Is inoculation against some of these attacks I also think Him saying what she does quite often that you know what most people care about is You know making a living trying to afford things and You know the right uses these attacks to divide us. I think that is both true and the right political message

I don't think you can just Say oh, well, I'm not gonna focus on any of that other stuff and just ignore it completely Because I think and I think we've learned this over the last several years like there has to And however you want to describe however he wants to describe his views on Trans issues or

Racism or whatever it may be he should do it and he should do it on his terms and he should do it confidently

“But like you still have to you have to answer people's questions on this kind of stuff”

And you should do it on your terms and not only lean on well people actually don't care about this They only care about cost of living stuff because While true they still do want to know if they have questions about like well, what did you say? What do you mean by that like you you need to have some kind of answer there in in a red state in particular But in kind of in politics generally you have to reach a threshold of

Acceptability culturally right is this person? Do they seem like they have my values if someone I would you know trust?

Can I relate to them and if you ignore the critiques that go right at that strength of yours then you leave yourself quite vulnerable?

Yes, I agree Let's talk about who tell you because opponent will be incumbent John Cornean and Texas attorney general can Pakistan are Headed for a may run off But things got interesting on Wednesday when Trump announced that he'd make an endorsement quote soon and D'manded that the non-indorse to candidate drop out

Reports say Trump is expected to endorse Cornean and on Thursday morning Paxton announced that he would quote consider dropping out but only If Senate leadership agreed to ditch the filibuster in order to pass Trump's voter ID law the save act Paxton also called Cornean a coward and said that quote no one has been more loyal to Donald Trump than me

What do you think of that strategy by Paxton?

“I think he's I talked to Jonathan Martin about this a lot which we're gonna hear shortly, but I it seems like he is”

Trying to maybe find a fig leaf to get something out of dropping out If he feels like he has to I mean, I think the assumption is is that if whoever Trump endorses will win This primary I'm not entirely sure that's accurate, but everyone seems to believe that And they're probably it would probably be very hard for Paxton to raise money if Trump says I'm endorsing Cornean and I want Paxton to drop out in Paxton does not drop out

That's probably challenge you know. I don't know. I don't think that you know I guess the the grand fear her is the Senate takes him up on the software and passes the save act that would be pretty bad for the world But I would think I don't think food has I don't think he has a vote for it. Yeah, I think I think he I wonder if then Paxton wants to say Because what he's hoping is that Trump then says oh God this food and Corne has just like food and there are stylish young guys who've been in leadership and they won't do this for me

And maybe because I'm sure that there's part of Trump that really wants to endorse Paxton or at least not endorse Cornean And so I'm sure you know I think he's probably playing the best hand he has here

“Paxton, but I don't know if it's gonna work. Yeah, I mean like what Trump says is be what matters here?”

And if Trump does an endorse than because Trump clearly does not want to endorse Trump Cornean It's not entirely clear why but he in a it's actually to jammer about this But I mean he's the incumbent Senator he could have endorsed him at any point and He hasn't and so there is something there that's preventing it, but in the end I think he's gonna be convinced that Cornean is the better

shot to beat Hillary go right one more piece of election news and Senate on Wednesday Just before the filing deadline Montana or Republican Senator Steve Daines announced that he would not seek Re-election clearing the way for late-entrant Kurt Almy who currently serves as U.S. attorney for the district of Montana A role he also held in Trump's first term Trump quickly endorsed Almy on truth social calling him quote exceptional

scene in his minority report on Thursday the Daines last minute switcheroo was intended to keep Democrats from fielding a top tier candidate like former Montana Senator John tester and that Trump and Senate Republican leaders were aware of the strategy

Pretty pretty shocking, but never happened last minute and no one expected Daines to not run again

What it would it be about this whole thing it is crooked as hell as it was when a house Democrat did this yeah a while back and it does it's both screwing any other Republican who wanted run for the seat, but as you point out Democrats opportunity to run a potentially more high profile candidate for like there is something states to try to fix this because this is now going to become

a real try that's yet another way in which democracy is getting curtailed in this country it should be the incumbent has to as like an incumbent you like I saw someone tweet up this idea, but there should be a rule or a law that is if you like it obviously has to be state laws but the incumbent has to make their decision first and then the filing deadline comes after that right so it's like there's like two weeks between when a comment says I'm in or I'm not

and then when there's two weeks after that in which other people could decide to run based on it because this is like this is really going to be something that happens a lot in politics now

“it's a way to for the party establishment to avoid messy primaries because this what that's what”

this what's this the two-week or so you think was two-week or so you're working something out with his chief of staff to ensure his chief of staff got to run and essentially win because it's a safe time for us here within seconds of the announcement the entire Montana political establishment and the White House they don't force the guy yeah so shady I mean I am interested in there's there's a couple Democrats running the Democratic side they haven't raised much money at

all they're not like big names again the big names have been like tester former governor Brian Schweizer Steve Bullocker but there is the former president of the University of Montana Seth Bodner he's also a former army green beret and a road scholar he has filed to run as an

too much more than that but I'm kind of interested if it's gonna if it could possibly shape up to

be like a Dan Osborne in Nebraska situation where maybe because he's got such broad name recognition in Montana if he has more democratic leaning positions which I don't know or even if he's more centrist um that would be a lot better than a Trump Republican running and I don't know be interested in that yeah there's some interesting of how many of Montana too because Ryan Sinky who uh it was Trump's interior secretary and had to resign for some sort of

corruption scandal that I can't remember what was at this point um he he returned to congress and but he just was he just yeah and now it's his retirement too and that is a district that Trump won by 11 like yeah I think it's 11 and it's like it's in the zone of the kind of state seats that might be competitive with the right candidate in this political amendment didn't we win

“Montana no no we came close we lost by three I think yeah I remember thinking that Montana”

what I mean there was a big debate at the end about whether we were gonna compete in Montana um and we just ultimately decided it was the juice was not worth the squeeze because it was this is only what three electoral votes I think it's four okay yeah well something like that but it was it but the reason I bring this up is because Montana is not as deep deep red as you might

think for where it is yeah of all those states out there it is one where you always think like

yeah someday maybe right right number of people move yeah Montana could it be something so yeah I don't think it's I think if you had a really strong candidate there clearly we just had John Tester Senator you know it's there's it's a shot all right one last thing we had to get to and this one is this is personal RFK Junior last week at a one of his eat real food rallies

“he previewed a crackdown on a beloved staple of many Americans diets”

here's some of what he said and here's some of the reaction from my brethren we're gonna ask uh Duncan Donuts and Starbucks show us the safety data that shows that it's okay that for a teenage girl a drink and ice coffee with 150 in grams of sugar at it I don't think they're gonna be able to do it Bostonians seem to have a clear message about changing their favorite orders Don't try it is not the promise in the beauty of the freedom we get

in America to get however much fucking sugar you want your Duncan's ice coffee the guy that's snorted coke off a toilet is trying to take my Duncan and I'm not gonna let him Bobby baby must have done a few more lines because he's crazy if he thinks me and the rest of the nut jobs who live here I gonna let him take the only joy most of us miserable massholes have left RFK sleep with one eye open bitch I love Boston that's the best what the fuck come from my fucking Duncan

do you know what's the only drug more powerful than sugar what polarization

“because here's the thing he's not wrong he is wrong he's not wrong he's not wrong”

you should know you should be able to know when you walk into Duncan if you order one of the more ridiculous fucking things on that menu exactly how much sure you're getting I think that's totally fair and they also by the way put the calorie counts up there but you did that you know

who did that yeah Michelle Obama did that yes which I always I think it's good I think

giving people more information more transparent forcing companies to be transparent about what they're putting in their products is a good thing and then you give people the choice because guess what this this right here what it's talking about what's in that cup right now oh yeah oh I will it's a nice coffee there's a splash a half and half in here maybe a little more than a splash um it's it's quite a shade of a crew for the just a splash it's a Duncan splash

which is a little fool heavier than your Starbucks splash and it's got five pumps of sugar free vanilla sugar free oh see RFK approved coffee and a couple of splendists a couple of splendists so again so the way you have how much chemicals in my having because of having sugar free all kinds of whatever sucralos whatever the fuck loves it's called lots of it lots of it which is how I like it okay all right I would say I I'm glad you're on board

with the calorie counts I'm concerned about your coffee orders in general so I'm just concerned about your health yeah you know and I do and I do think and that like the the quasi-serious part of this holy and serious part of this podcast is like you know we're probably gonna look back on sugar

is like it's this stuff that has always been RFK juniors a gateway to the anti-vaccine lunacy

“is like that stuff makes sense to people I will say when we were in Australian New Zealand”

for nine or ten days you would think that when you were traveling you were like oh well I was traveling and so my my whole routine is out of whack and I didn't feel great because I'm meeting on the road I felt better on the road than when I came back and started eating the shit that we have in this country like I saw and I saw what you ain't drank in Australia and I'm impressed I hate some I great we had great in Australia we had great in Australia we did need a lot but like I also think

it's part you know you you're in a house there's snacks everywhere people it's just it's a lot it's a lot but I I'm I'm with RFK on the process foods for sure I'm just also all about

choice and I'm especially you know I'm especially uh into my Duncan so look if this is going to

turn people against RFK I'll take it yeah that's fine look he's wrong about everything this is another thing he's wrong about so go back to your toilet seats all right when we come back Dan's interview with Politico Senior Political Columnist Jonathan Martin Pods of America is brought you by hymns hymns can't help you fold a fidget sheet but it can't help you with your performance in bed they control of ED with personalized treatments made with

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joining me now is the chief political columnist for political and the host of the fourth coming series on the road with Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin how are you buddy Dan five Ray buddy thank you

“it's been a long time I was just thinking today that I think the first time you and I met was in 2004”

and I was working for dasho and you were covering senate races for hot for national journal yeah exactly you were a national guy and you know you and I talked about this but there should be a political thirty for thirty well just period but there really should be one for those O2 and O4 back to back epic self the senate basis it's just a crime that we don't have a documentary about those two races and I don't know if you're next series maybe maybe in our next life we can start

the political thirty for thirty exactly okay all right now one thing I've known about you over the years is it you the cover races based in part on the quality of barbecue where those races are taking place so I know you have been in Texas and North Carolina covering the primary is it happened this past week let's start with Texas where James Tolerico when the Democratic nomination Republicans are now headed to a what could be a quite nasty if it continues a runoff

between incumbent senator john corny and Ken Paxton right this thing seems to be moving

political I believe where he said yes where he heard that Paxton said he was staying in

a matter what trump said that could cause him to endorse corny because he wants whoever he does not endorse to drop out Paxton then said this morning that he would drop out if the senate Republicans drop the filibuster to pass the savac what are you hearing about what's going on here in Texas on the republican side I mean talk about fast moving events that they say in the news business but also a sort of needing encapsulation day and for the for the

that's sort of internal GOP politics of the trump you know or it's it's really one man's decree more than anything else and that's the way he wants it I was in south Texas with senator

corny and and I wrote my column from there and the lead of my column was basically here's this

you know almost 40 year career as a judge state agency and senator pretty distinguished and day and his entire fate rest in the hands of you know trump is a gust is in the Coliseum doing the thumbs up or the thumbs down it's a hell of a way to live your life as a senator who by the way it's like most incompetent senators of their own party get the endorsement of their president that's pretty typical of american politics the fact he's he's had no work for this tell us

he everything about this moment that we're in but as to the present all signs point to trump endorsing corny and trump's top lieutenant from the 24 campaign are working for senator corny that's

Chris loss of eda and Tony for brisiel they're very close to suit you why also of course is

trump's chief of staff and now that packed and it's sort of dragging his feet about whether he

“drop out damn that's this kind of I think ensure that trump doesn't in fact endorse corny what is that”

do well it's a sigh of relief for senate republicans it probably means that they'll have to spend less money on the texas race and if they have to give packs and some face saving pledged to a vote on the save act they'll probably do it but you can't make that up like kin packs and it's looking for some thin read some fake leave here to drop out of the race and all I'll do it if they vote on on a voter ID bill or they drop the filibuster for a voter ID bill which is all just sort of a

parade for he just needs to cover right what here's the question what did corny do like why like I'm sort of unfamiliar I don't really understand why what was corny's mortal sin is the back of movement yeah yeah it's a great question and I wrestled with this two hours down there is like what bill Cassidy the senator from Louisiana he did something right it's clear his day he voted to impeach trump and in February of 2021 like okay I understand that from a political standpoint

but you're right like what is corny sin like what's his his fireable offense if you will I actually asked him that question I said like senator do you have a fireable offense and there's really not one now what folks on the right and texas will point to is the bipartisan deal they did after you've all day which was a fairly modest set of of of of gun control regulations but it was

“pretty small beer and I think the the bigger issue is he's just not mega you know he doesn't”

come off his maga he's a bushy uh everybody in Texas knows it and he doesn't really fake it that well and so I think it's more just he's not where the party is today sort of totally and culturally and therefore he's got to go um now where it gets complicated damn is that trump himself isn't that maga right I mean trump is maga what it's convenient for him but he really wants to figure out and and determine what maga is and this is why people like mtg have had this sort of loss of faith

then because trump himself is like conveniently maga right um and so you know they can toast trump to be for corn and here it looks like trump is gonna side with the traditional laying of their public in party you know in some of these other races were trump got involved in 2022 they were sort of like fake maga candidates he made maga like her shall walker doctor Oz Ken Paxon is maga through him through he is sort of uh canary in the coal mine on a lot of

issues that become cause celebs on fox news or right wing media is there any potential consequence to him for sort of for picking the the bushy the establishment guy over at a time when there's

“division on the Iran War there's division on the ethnic files etc so I think it's at the margins”

but the margins matter in midterms like nobody knows that better than you I mean look I you know he's gonna alienate I think very online extremely ideological figures who come from that band and talk her mtg way where they actually believe in this stuff when it comes to a policy agenda that is very different from the traditional wing of the party I don't know how big that is I think the bulk of the party is with trump on whatever trump decides he wants to do whether that's politics

of the party base but it's real and those folks matter and if they stay home in November that's devastating because if you don't get that crowd out and and you're a Republican there's

nowhere to make up for it you know basically what you said about the Republicans think if corn

is a nominee they'll spend less money is it is from what you're in from the Senate Republican types there assumption that this is a safe state if corn is a nominee I don't agree with that I'm gonna stipulate that but yeah yeah no it's it's that it's the corn and it's not gonna alienate the center right suburban indie or Republican woman especially in a way that packs

“in wood and that we can basically you know spend less money I think you're right that it's still a”

ballgame I think it favors the Republicans more heavily but they can't go to sleep on it because obvious tele Rico's gonna have a tonic ash it's a good cycle for dams and Texas obviously is changing but I just think it makes it a lot easier for the Republicans given the nature of corn and

versus Pakistan and you know looking at the general election the you know one of the things I

think was notable in tele Rico's victory was this performance of Latino voters not just in his margins with over crocket but the the number of votes he got out of the wall votes yet right that he got out of the art a lot of the Rio Grande Valley like that has to get like and I think it's particularly important in Texas not just because the size Latino vote but the entire principle underlying their redistricting was that there was this shift among Latino voters and it

“seems like they're at least real evidence of a snapback in Texas if not nationally well I think there”

is a modest realignment along education and class lines among all working class voters no matter of their ethnicity but this assumption that suddenly the working class Hispanic had become maga is totally unfounded they were voting in a one-off election against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and frankly against inflation and open borders they weren't voting for the maga party and embracing Donald Trump as their political icon it was a momentary vote and I think that the redraw and

Texas that you alluded to made made a mistake because they assumed those voters were theirs and they were just least number one cycle and I was there with Coran I spent some time down there with a Democrat running for a house state named Bobby Polito who's as Tejano Seniors like an icon in the valley and you know he's running on the state that's drawn for a public and but I think he's got a better than even chance to win in part because of his personal fame but also in part

picture what you mentioned that snapback there's a real backlash against ice among Hispanic voters and these by the way are centering centering right Hispanic voters I mean you're your listeners should notice like if you're Hispanic on the via Rio Grande Valley you're pretty middle of the road if not right and they are up for voting for a public and they're just not gonna do it in this environment and you give them the right kind of Democrat and they'll vote for a Democrat and we saw that to

your point the just the raw votes in those counties along the Rio Grande the amount of folks voting in the Democratic primary exceeding the number of votes Kamala Harris got in a general election sometimes by a factor of two or three I mean just wild I mean you just don't see that kind of turn out in a primary compared to a general election that tells you everything about the amount of energy with with Democrats broadly in the fact that ancestral Hispanic Democrats who may have

you know moved to Trump temporarily in 24 or even 20 are coming back to the Democratic Party. There are a couple other interesting races down ballot in Texas you mentioned about the Palito that's interesting one another one that I was just wanted to take on as someone who knows like here's a lot from what the Republicans were saying is what happened at Dan Crenshaw so Dan Crenshaw you know was elected 2018 navy seal you know lost an iron combat was a real

“star of the Republican Party you couldn't turn on TV without seeing him I think probably in the”

20 20 20 22 maybe 24 people thought he was you know the future of the party in some ways and he just got absolutely clobbered in his primary by a candidate endorsed by Ted Cruz like what was his sin against the Niagara World or the Trump World? Well let me say before talking about the actual race it has sort of karma type vibes that remind you of a leestophonic to which is these younger Republicans who everybody knows they're

not really Trump be and they reinvent themselves to accommodate where the party is and then

it just ultimately leaves them going nowhere and so there is something that is you know there's

some poag justice there in terms of these folks who are faking it in public life but in terms of Crenshaw's race a few things happened you mentioned the redraw of the house map that really

we're gonna grab some or house seats and we're gonna make assumptions about Hispanic voters stay with us and we're gonna make some other assumptions to about the nature of our incumbent house member and by the way Dan you you know this there's no no house member likes their seat being redrawed I don't care what what they're parking yeah they need it because they have to meet new voters right and it's it's a pain but the taxes Republicans they saluted Trump and they went along with this

redraw and in the case of Crenshaw he gets tons of new voters he doesn't know in the state rap challenging him is running and the seat that includes a big overlap of his current state house district and then he gets a big big infusion of money from a donor who doesn't like Crenshaw into a super PAC which these days can mean a lot you add the Ted Cruz factor in and then Trump doesn't really get involved for Crenshaw and it adds up to a pretty a pretty decisive loss

let's switch it North Carolina here which also has good barbecue and you've been covering that race as well yeah you know from Carolina Dan exactly there was uh uh they had their primary on Tuesday it wasn't that much interesting on the primary primary ballot but what was interesting was the turn out among Democrats we even though Recooper was uh did not have an actual ballot there was another big

“statewide race like there wasn't Texas what are you hearing from North Carolina I look I think”

Democrats path the 50 starts in and Maine but it goes to North Carolina there's no path about 50 there's no there's no way without North Carolina no path to 50 that's right and so I mean I think I think Maine is their top target for obvious reasons we can go into but I think number two in a pretty

close second is North Carolina you've got a two term former governor 100% name ID was very popular

it's like a small town lawyer type Democrat and it's uncontested in the primary and yeah it was so striking looking at the raw votes in both parties neither party had a had a real primary for it's it's senate seat uh under public inside or Democratic side and Democrats had significantly more raw votes showing up now that's in part because they had a little bit more down ballot action in some house races but still it tells you where the energy is this cycle now it's not easy if

look this map is tough for Democrats the environment is good but the map is difficult you know

“you have to be Susan Collins which you haven't done in 30 years that you've been in office you”

haven't won a federal race in North Carolina Dan since you guys won there in 08 and brought K Hagen along with you and then you have to go to Ohio which has turned so Trumpy for the last three cycles and those are your three best seats right so it's a tough cycle but boy I think Cooper maybe the best recruit in America um this year and he's running and get somebody to the former RNC chair who's just not that well known like the former governor is so

if you're ever gonna win North Carolina in a federal race besides having a bomb out of the ticket it's gonna be this year yeah this is it's I mean the the Wattley choice is going to be it's gonna be interesting how that plays out in the end of Cooper wins to just pick the random RNC chair Trumps RNC chair for that role he's a Trump proxy right it's just like nominating you know the the idea was Laura Trump his daughter-in-law was gonna run and she didn't want to do

it and so they found Wattley as a way to force all the primary and there's no primary but I just you know it's just not a fair fight against the former governor now that said structurally it's still a hard state for Democrats right I mean you just look at you look at 1620 and 24 so much

money so much effort and they couldn't carry the state so yeah I mean and it basically got

the same vote share every single time you know that's exactly right you put so much effort in and you get to the top of the mountain and you're almost to the peak and you're like 48.3 you just can't get there right down here and it's it you know this is the I guess one of the

“questions we'll have in I think Democrats gonna think this through is you see this like Democrat”

turnout's gonna be through the roof we see that those far for Republicans there's been kind of mixed signals on this right like even in 18 Democrat turnout through the roof Republican turnout was also pretty high you know like there was high turnout in Texas but the fact that there were more Democratic but that was a the most expensive primary in history in turnout you show you follow his money so like notable that Democrat and they're just more Republican voters

Democratic voters so notable you got more Democrats probably the question will be was there more

to bring up 2018 though because you know that's the first Trump midterm when his first term and

and it's analogous to this year in terms of the mass of energy and even with that energy you still lose what for Democratic incumbents and clear McCasco high-dehyde team Joe Biden you're the 12 you the 2012 cycle last time Obama's on the ballot products yeah you've been which which by the way this is a longer longer conversation but 2012 was really the last sort of you know by called BC versus AD I mean that's like the last election in the before times yeah you know yeah I mean starting after

pick up take back the house and like you'll lose all these purple to red stay Senate Democrats and so I just raised that as a cautionary warning because even in a big you know a cycle where Democrats have anti-Trump energy it's still hard structurally for the party to win some of these centers it's easier though in a way if you're to beat and incumbent than to defend it and combat

“yeah right that's what we like what we have going for us is you're playing defense in 18”

in a class officer and now right like you point out there's no path to 50 doesn't require winning at least two seats that in states to Trump won by more than 10 points like there are some unique political circumstances in those states that make it potentially feasible you know either quality for crude like shared brown or Mary Patola in Alaska or just sort of states in this you know probably the longest shot of those four is Iowa but it's a state that Trump is like essentially

waged economic war on with this tariffs and the sort of being stuff but yeah it's like it is a hard path the question is whether Trump is going to get 18 turn out or something like Democrats

gotten 14 which is that like lame duck second term turnout where because it's not you're not just

it's not a dress rehearsal for the forthcoming presidential election it's just like you know and that's that's the difference between having like picking up those seats and not picking up the seats is my guess. You make an important point though about how 14 your playing defense now you're playing offense I mean it's a silver lining to a pretty damn gloomy cloud which is the Democrats have lost so much ground the Senate in Red America that now they're they're not

we're on offense every time. Yeah we're on offense now but yeah I mean like the the jokes that I make is when you're a Democrat and you're looking at the possible taking back the Senate and your 51st seat is Alaska Texas or Iowa you know it's not idea you wouldn't you draw that up in a lot let's talk a little bit about it. Let's talk a little bit about the broader

midterm landscape here you know there is this is like the first two and a half months of this year

have been insane from a new perspective you know we had awards a Warren Venezuelan tariffs met what happened in Minnesota but now we have an ongoing war with the ran like for what are you hearing from maybe people on both sides of the aisle about the potential impact of this how nervous they're particularly maybe the Republicans are about this being added to the docket ah I mean everybody is holding their breath because the expectation among Republicans is that

this is closer to Venezuela and it's just a different part of the world with far different

“circumstances and you know I think Trump got um emboldened by this excess of Venezuela but”

Dan it was so clean that I think it led him to think he could just keep doing that and he just grabbed the joystick again he'd do it for somewhere else and it's not the same so the question I have is how long does this go is it really weeks which is what you hear from their Republicans now or is it month and if it is months boy I just think that takes a toll politically if the Iranians can keep lobbying drones and missiles and response and we're losing American service members

week after week I think that that just adds to the burden their Republicans have and an already tough cycle and I just don't think that there's a rally around the flag he knows and it's not very hard um it's just times have changed it's a it's a it's a preemptive war they haven't made any kind of a public campaign um you know I mean the bush folks went to the UN went to the Congress months long public campaign the war went south obviously you know that better than anybody given

what happened to no sex in a late and Obama's rise but they did something on the front and

“at least sell it first none of that so I think if this thing doesn't go well it creates a huge”

political burden for for um for the Republicans and an already tough cycle I just don't know if that's going to be the case because you and I can't sit here and guess what's going to happen in the next 10 days two weeks so yeah I think we have to wait and see how this unfolds how interested is Trump how much does he sustain this campaign uh this he declare a victory day in and three four days you know it's it's sort of difficult to to grasp but he has started a war

which is easy but it's really hard to end a war you know so yeah there's like a couple of moments here and there's like what's happening right now there's if more troops die and there's the you

like it seems like we're spending a billion dollars a day on this their Congress is probably

going to have to vote on a supplemental that is going to be a moment um I mean I've seen some internal Democratic polling that suggests that uh spending billions of dollars on this war in the same time you cut a trillion dollars in Medicaid is not a particularly popular stance for these Republicans right but so it's and that's going to line up with some of you know if this is a

everything else is essentially you know I guess you mean on the Democrat you have us off and then I

you know I guess you're a Sullivan and um and Houston but the rest of it is just like how much those votes will matter will be interesting and then you're right if this thing ends in a few weeks you know

“we have a part of it but you mentioned the lack of incumbents and I think that that's vital to”

understanding this this cycle because in a place like North Carolina it's not like it's time till us up for reelection right uh it just it changes the equation and the same thing in Iowa now in Iowa you know you could argue if you're a Republican it actually is actually better to have a new face there than if they have have Joni Ernst who you know speaking you have having to fake it on maga um but you know this is so salio Ohio who's the incumbent senator most of your listeners

don't know he gets no attention his name is Joni Houston he's the former lieutenant governor he's an appointee who took who took the the van seat that was vacated and you know when you're going to appoint he's senator historically you're in a really weak political shape now he's runs statewide before but still that's a disadvantage we haven't even mentioned Florida here to Florida's so forgotten politically but there's an appointee in Florida as well Ashley Mooney who's got you know

very light name ID statewide and it's just it's so different from a two or three term incumbents senator when you have these appointees now I think Florida's still tougher democrats but this is a wave here the governor senator races they are getting no attention but they probably should get more I think it do I think I generally am of the view of the democrats that we like I spend most of my life

“worrying about the twenty thirty two redron uh electoral map and so like I so that's why I worry a lot”

about Texas and Florida because if we can't become competitive in those states we're pretty screwed as a party if you're if you're losing a net 14 votes between uh California New York Texas and Florida we're in pretty big trouble but that's either here and are there um let me ask you a little bit but this is an important point though because for all of the energy against Trump and I understand the the bigger a child challenge is is twenty thirty and and if it's can you compete structurally

full rate a majority in the U.S. Senate without adding Puerto Rico and D.C. and right now you know

the answer is maybe you can get 51 but that's really about it and then how are you going to keep a

house majority if the shift in population is moving from from from blue to red America those are like but like the more sobering questions for democrats will avoid it. Yeah I mean one of my fears is my two fears one is that is the map itself shifting and us not thinking about that and not thinking

“long term and the investments you have to make to take some of these places they're not competitive”

now and they can competitive and the other one is that democrats will make the same mistake we did in twenty twenty two which is to do very well in twenty six think everything is all the problems are solved and so on because the the the bigger structural problems don't come into play until the less engaged voters get involved and we haven't mentioned this yet but I mentioned the house in senate but also if if if if you have a huge shift in population from blue to red America

that changes the electoral college yes and as you alluded to twenty thirty two becomes harder forget the blue all that's not enough anymore if you're not competitive and Florida in Texas by twenty thirty two you're creating a huge challenge for yourself and holding the White House. Yeah you basically have to draw an inside straight every year to win that's the only way to do it right let's end here with uh I want to figure out how you convinced your employers to do

whatever one wants which is to pay to send you two places around the country to eat really really good food uh so talk to me about on the robot Jonathan Martin. Well thanks Dan so over the years friends

colleague sources have always asked me like hey I'm going to New Orleans I'm going to Denver

I'm going to Boston where should I eat what should I do what's actually the where should I stay and you you have had this conversation over the years and it's like you know I'm happy to share ideas besides it like I should actually find a way to make this into something fun and this is a sobering moment in politics but you gotta find a way to actually also have a good time so I am starting this this road show um Colombo road and the idea is basically you vote three things food

politics in place and my place I mean history, culture, identity, localism um you know the things that aren't part of the Starbucks TGI Fridays America and so I started this week in Arkansas with Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a barbecue joint I'm going to do governor's day in for the first season and you know the hope is kind of like one party in for the board day and you know one part nerdy omenek of american politics stuff you and I've been doing for the last few minutes here um

but also you know like like really capture these these places and localities and let folks

know read this out at the FTE they have that lunch with feature raising you can sort of like

“you just drop on the lunch I want to have that but with cameras there rolling to capture these”

conversations about politics and food and history and all that stuff so uh we're starting with governors it's going to be fun for a season and this fall you know it happens to be football so season two is going to be even better out there where when is it when is it starting how can people get it Dan it starts this coming week you can catch it wherever you get podcasts but this is also a video

series so it's going to air on youtube as well and the idea is we would love folks to watch it on

youtube but if you don't want to see me with like barbecue stains on my shirt no offense taken you can just crank it up as a as a podcast listen to when you're driving or working out or jogging or whatever you want it's on the road with Jonathan Martin it's going to start this coming week um and uh you you can catch it wherever you get your podcast or on youtube awesome Jim right good to talk to you about him talk to you again later it's soon thanks Dan good to see you

that's our show for today thanks to Jonathan Martin for coming on Tommy and I will be back on

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