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Idea. Go to your island. Welcome to an HBO podcast. From the HBO late night series, "Real Time with Bill Mo." OK, here we are. No, it's time with the state Texas State representative. It was running for the U.S. Senate James Tyler Rica.
And she's a public-entongous woman from Colorado. We're in Boulder, December. All right. These are from the people out there for the panel. Oh, this is I know this about you because you've had a lot of fun. To read this week about this when the FCC should the FCC get rid of
its equal time rule is the government engaging in cancel culture. Let's explain this a little. You went on Stephen Colbert's show. They didn't air it. Now, I remember this from when I was a kid. The FCC wrote the equal time rule.
If a politician went on a show, you had to give equal time to-- this was from 1934 is when it was first written. It made sense when there were three networks, I guess. It makes no sense in the age of streaming. And then TikToks, I mean, podcasts and everything else that people
go on. So what should we do about this?
Well, there was always an exception for late night television shows,
like the late show. And now the Trump administration's FCC is going after some of these shows.
“And so to me, I think we should use our common sense.”
Do we think the president is digging through the minutia of FCC policy because he's concerned about the equal time rule and how it's applied? Or is he going after shows that talk about him in a way he doesn't like? What it which-- which one sounds more like the president? And this is the party that ran against cancel culture.
Now they're trying to control what we watch, what we say, what we read. And this is the most dangerous form of cancel culture. This is not people on the internet. These are the most powerful politicians. And those powerful corporate media executives
coming together to sell out the first amendment. And a-- and a threat to any of our first amendment rights is a threat to all of our first amendment rights. Bill, you know this because you had this happen to you. And it's really important that we leave room for dissent in this country.
Especially when everyone sees it be on the same page, it's really important to have folks into allow folks to be able to say something different, to challenge that group thing. And I'm really concerned when you have the government starting to cancel free speech, what kind of road we're traveling down.
The first amendment is the first amendment for a reason. It's not the second, the third of the fourth of the fifth. Because that freedom of speech, the freedom of press, it allows us to safeguard all those other freedoms in the Bill of Rights. And it's why I'm so concerned.
“And honestly, so proud of Stephen Colbert and his show for standing up again.”
And it's just a hypocrisy to me. [APPLAUSE] The hypocrisy of it. I mean, when they were squelching, descending opinions about COVID, I was right with your people.
Yes, I think you were. And I was going to say I would mold enough to remember the cancel culture of COVID lockdowns. And that's where we were really fighting. I mean, they canceled schools.
They canceled churches. Don't worry, the strip clubs of marijuana shops were still open. So I don't know. I'll tell Paul, I don't know. [LAUGHTER]
I don't know. I just think it wasn't a trumpet that canceled your segment there. I mean, this is one area where Ms. Crocket is correct. This was a decision by the network. And they didn't want to have her on possibly.
They didn't want to have that equal time. And so they looked at the ruling and said, well, we're not going to do this. But I also think that the way it was aired,
I mean, you go over 5 million views.
You raised $2.5 million in 24 hours. So it's pretty big success for you. Well, again, Mike, Mike and Tony is not. Mike and Tony is not for Mike campaign. It's for the Constitution.
And was he-- Wait, what was the president who said, "Do not allow the day air?"
They did not say, "Do not allow this to air.
It was equal share time.
“It was already in the rules and that network said,”
we don't want to have the equal share. We don't want to fulfill that part of the rule. Again, let's go one level deeper. Larry Ellison, who owns Paramount, is trying to acquire Warner Brothers, which, including me.
And I would be part of the deal. And he is one of-- he is one of Trump's biggest donors.
So again, this is very powerful politicians
with billionaire mega donors, colluding to sell out our fundamental freedoms in this country. And Republicans and Democrats, we should both be appalled by this. We should both be concerned about this,
because, again, when they come for some of this, they end up coming for all of us eventually. [APPLAUSE] And they ask guys, they're full right. [APPLAUSE]
After the Charlie Kirk assassination, I mean, obviously, anybody who did anything, but say this is a horrible thing for this country,
“a horrible thing, personally, for him and his family.”
I have no use for a person like that. But it is still free speech. And they made basically a blasphemy law. And people were canceled, because they said things that were rude and inappropriate.
But that does not mean that they should have been unallowed to say them. Don't you think that's hypocritical? When the networks make a decision to not have someone on air to cancel a show, even over the weekend,
and that wasn't going to film and be on air anyway, or if they choose to not have another guest because of rules, I don't think that is the same as President Trump coming in and canceling people from the executive plan.
There are rules in place, and you've even said earlier, that we are a nation of laws. I just mean, in general, the red team. They were all for free speech, except when it was somebody that they liked.
And then it was just, I'm sorry, you just can't say anything. And it just seemed like nobody has any integrity anymore. It's only about what team we're working with. And this is the SNI, which on the dime. Well, the FCC is weaponizing a technicality.
They are going after an exemption that's existed for decades, because they don't like some of these-- and I talk to them. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel made a joke. They didn't like, and they went after him.
They, Stephen Colbert, called out Paramounts, bribed it on Trump, and they weren't after him. Jimmy Kimmel, from his own network. Pressure from the FCC, from the fact, OK. I mean, this is government overreaches.
I could push back on that. And, you know, he's back on the air, he's making his crappy jokes. I just-- I mean, I, I have a lot of conservatives in my family. I have conservatives who I grew up with.
You always warned us about government overreach.
You warned us that the government would cancel free speech. You warned us about the government. You serving the role of the church.
“You warned us about secret pedophile rings.”
All that is now happening, and your party is enabling it. And I know you've stood up on some of these things, which I appreciate. We need more people in both parties willing to stand up. But I'm really--
By partisan, Bobur, that's your service. Well, I just think-- I really think their public and party has to get back to the small sea conservative values, and even when they're guys in office, those values shouldn't change.
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This is from-- [APPLAUSE] I saw this in the news. It was fascinated by this, also, will Trump alienate the maha that's make America healthy again moms,
who back to him after signing an executive order to boost production of Roundup. Roundup is what they spray on crops. It's a great pesticide, not so great for people. I see that Bayer, which owns them, just
had to pay something like seven and a half billion dollars
in lawsuits for this stuff. The pesticide at the center of major health lawsuits. It's baffling to me. I mean, the way he courts a certain group. And then seems to just deliberately turn his back on them.
I don't get this. I mean, why appoint Bobby Kennedy to be the health secretary of health and human services. And then order a boost in production of Roundup, the single most deleterious substance I can think of
on the whole agenda. Now, he did go opposite of secretary Kennedy after he heard about the cocaine off the toilet seat. So maybe that had something to do with it. But no, I do disagree with that.
I have a lot of farmers and ranchers in my district in eastern
Colorado.
And that is the lifeblood of my district, of my state,
of our nation. What is for our farmers and ranchers? And so you think Trump did the right thing? No, I don't. But our farmers and ranchers, they will advocate
for the continuation of glyphosate and Roundup. That's what they have. That is what is affordable. I do not think that that is something that should be sprayed on our crops.
It does go breaks. They blood-brain barrier. It gets into our systems. I think this is why we are sick and unhealthy. Barely alive, and it's part of a bigger conglomerate.
Kind of like, we have the military industrial complex. Well, we also have the homeless industrial complex, and the drug industrial complex. And it's like, you just barely keep them hanging on
and keep giving them money.
And they'll still be there. And they're still that reason for it. And it's why we're sick and pay all of this to the farmers. That was a good matter. You're for saying, you're funny to do that.
Maybe I am also a co-signer now on Thomas Massey's bill to not provide immunity to these companies. And I think Congressman Massey did it the right thing in this piece of legislation. I'm a proud co-sponsor of it.
And you know, President Trump, he's my friend. I love that he's our president, once again. But there are things that--
“That's what I want you to tell a green said,”
and she's in the dark house. [APPLAUSE] And she just carried on a lot of other things this year. I think that it was handled unprofessionally in total, and it's really unfortunate what happened,
because they did have a really good relationship. And I'm not looking to sever that friendship, but I also have principles. And I want to make a point just real quick to the base and to the voters.
If we could go back to Epstein for just a moment, look at the pressure that was put on these politicians, put on the house of representatives, put on the Senate by the base demanding that that was past. And without me and Marjorie and Nancy Massey,
Thomas Massey, Rohkana, forcing that legislation,
it would have never happened because our leadership and D.C.
they do listen to others and not the base. But you know, finally these politicians-- One thing you guys are always-- The base will-- they're not consistent about is you had this bug up your ass
about elites, elites, and I said many times, they're not completely wrong about that. To the combination of people on the left, don't like when I say things like that, but it's true. Now, when I read this list of people that are in the Epstein orbit,
it is vast and it's certainly bipartisan. Yes. But even the people who like now, like Musk, who are on the right at the time, they were contract in communication with Epstein,
seem to be more on the left. Yes. You think that's true? You think that's fair? I do think it's heavy left leaning for sure.
And certainly you're seeing-- They are more elite. Yes. They are more elite, isn't it? Correct.
You would disagree.
“I think there are Democrats and Republicans,”
liberals and progressives on that list. I would hope that we can all agree that regardless of their political affiliation, anyone who's found guilty of committing these crimes should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of a law?
[APPLAUSE] I mean, I just-- I think we'll pass that. We'll pass that. We'll pass that point in the story.
We're at the point in the story now of something different. Yes, maybe you didn't do anything with a lot of these people. We don't think they did something directly underage girls. But you still kept up this very friendly communication.
This very friendly relationship you had with a guy who you knew was already prosecuted for this. And that's why I'm trying to figure out when pedophilia became a partisan issue in this country. Because if there's anything we should all agree on,
it's that no one, including power from man in the country should be able to cover up those crimes against children. That's it. Last question. [APPLAUSE]
Trump. President Trump said he would release files on UFOs and alien life. What might this show? Yes, he said we're going to see it all right. And a lot of people have been asking about this.
Obama was on a podcast last week. And he had to walk back a statement.
“He made saying, I think they're out there or something.”
And then I, I don't know, I haven't seen him. But I mean, I had to gentleman on recently who made a documentary about this. I believe that the people in the military see things that are unexplainable.
I think it's more likely that there are aliens. I don't know. I think it's good news that they haven't taken us out yet, because it just means they're monitoring. And if they're watching, I think we can all get along.
[LAUGHTER]
What do you think it's going to be in these files?
Well, Cash, probably going to be just as redacted
“if it's anything like the Epstein files.”
No, I am an unofficial bipartisan group task force of Congressman Jared Moscoids and Anna Paulina Luna, Eric Burlison.
And we've gone in and seen some of the classified documents.
And there are some really interesting things there. And I don't want to pull an Obama and say classified information that I can't.
But I'm really excited that this is coming out.
I hope it's not another distraction.
“Remember during COVID, we learned the aliens were real.”
There were UFOs or UAPs. And then everybody was like, yes, so what? And so I hope this isn't just another like, well, let's just put it out there and see if they catch it this time. But I think there's going to be some interesting information.
“I think you should feel comfortable telling us.”
I don't think we're going to tell anyone. [APPLAUSE] This is so space. Yeah. Thank you very much.
I appreciate it, I appreciate it. Hatch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Mar every Friday, night at 10, or watch a many time on HBO on the moon. For more information, log on hbo.com.
