Welcome to an HBO podcast, from the HBO late night series,
"Real Time with Bill Mo."
“All right, here we are, an other time at the founder”
in St. E. L. with Minecraft Works Foundation, and the host of the way I heard it podcast, Mike Roe, the editor at Larger Greenland Magazine, the co-host of the fifth column podcast, Matt Roe, and she likes the red-letter newsletter,
and host the Terri-Pal, Mary-Cow, Terri-Pal, Mary. All right, um, first one is for you, Mike. - Mike, what do you think when-- (laughing) - I'm state fair living, that's for you.
- You just take care of it, you just take care of it. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - What do you think when you hear Elon Musk say
that in the future, no one will have jobs because AI will make work optional? - He said that?
- I never heard and said, but, uh...
- Well, a lot of people are saying AI is going to take all the jobs. - Yeah, I. - I'm not your kind of jobs, all right? And look, in time, by Elon saying
there's going to be more optimists robots in three years than people. He's saying that the optimists robots are going to guarantee a level of medical coverage and excellence comparable to what the president's.
“- What kind of robots are we talking about?”
- The optimists, the thing he's making, like these things are going to be called, yeah, it's called the optimists. - Oh. - Yeah, that sounds good.
- Yeah. (audience laughs) - Why are we worrying? I'm optimistic. - Yeah, no, I mean, look, there's no crystal ball
and there is no precedent in history for that happening. Doesn't mean it won't, but I wouldn't bet on it. - Yeah, I mean, the jobs you mentioned when we were talking before you, you listed like eight or 10 jobs.
- Yeah. - Those kind of jobs, pipe fitter. Short term, those are literally AI proofs, six figure jobs. In the near term, I do not know what's going to happen three, five years from now.
- No idea. - I mean, it's all moving so fast. It's all about some possible for anyone to say. - And the thing is, like, what do we do? - What plan is?
- Obviously, yeah, we have. (audience laughs) (audience laughs) - I feel like they're going ahead with this without the plan B of like, what do people do
when they don't have jobs? And then I hear someone say, oh well, you know, the government will have to give a universal basic income with what? Where's the tax money coming from if no one is working
to pay taxes? Where are they getting this money to get to the people who don't have jobs? - That we've blown on a war, broad, that we're losing. I mean, is it a war?
- Yeah, it's complicated. (audience laughs) - Okay, for the panel, we'll Tucker Carlson run for president in 2028. Well, what do you have a lot of support
as a third party candidate?
This is coming up, I know why, I read this story. - Yeah, Tucker Carlson certainly sounds like a candidate because he did what candidates do this week. He released a 10-point plan for America. This is kind of candidate, adjacent kind of stuff.
And also he smells blood in the water. - Yeah. - A lot of magas is unhappy. They do not like Trump's war as you just mentioned. They do not like the tariffs.
They don't like high gas prices. The Corley on families being run out in New York. (audience laughs) Yeah, he's running to the right of Trump. He's essentially doing the things that Trump promised.
“I mean, that's what he's offering in this 10-point plan,”
that Trump is not doing. And I just think that I know your former gas JD van said he's gonna be dragged down by Trump. I mean, if Trump's approval ratings right now are in the 40s and below,
how is he gonna come out of this? Being his right-hand man, looking good nobody, who's a vice president ever goes on. I mean, Gore, Biden, tried. Obama told him not to fight.
George Bush won.
- Yeah, George Bush first.
- Yeah. - But for the most part-- - Well, you're in Henry Harris. - Okay. (audience laughs)
Great confidence here. - I'm just saying here. - Okay, very cool. - Okay, fair. But it's just, it's just not looking good for him
and Ruby O2. I mean, this is just, they're both gonna be dragged down by it. And the great thing about being a podcast host is you have no responsibilities. You can say whatever you want.
- And he does. - Yeah, he should. - He should have responsibilities to his audience. But he's not actually up to, like, he's not given any responsibility in terms of--
- No, he's already a way up in the polls among smurking douchebags. (audience laughs) - What? - Well, mention this rule of work to your story
and don't even have, yeah, that's right. You do right. - Every four years, I have to be the buzzkill and say that starting a third party or an independent run of the presidency
is really, really hard and detailed work. And so, therefore, there's no chance in hell you're gonna do that. It's much easier to be a podcast host. - Okay.
- That's fair. - Yeah. - panel, what are the panel's thoughts on Ariana Grande's announcement? Okay, I made a joke, putting in.
I'm gonna run, I'm making fun of her and we hope she gets well if she's not well. It's unclear, I mean, yes, she's thinner than you should be.
That should be stepping back for a public.
Is this even a topic everyone should be talking about?
“Because I noticed that people talk about it”
like, oh, we're the good people and we're doing the thing, we need to step in. And maybe that's true. Maybe we need to step in with pop stars, Brittany. Spearers was another example of that.
And people in show business, you know, it looks like a great life. I think it's been a great life. I'm from a different generation. Like, I've good things are actually good.
I like good things. - Real quick, Bill, what's going on? - Oh, Jesus. - Oh. Okay, Ariana Grande, some years ago,
she looked at Dona. (audience laughs) - A little bit like a tick.
But she never finished it.
This should have been the first sign. (audience laughs) How many people can lick it, Dona? And not take a bite out of the dough. (audience applauds)
That's she's very thin and they're worried. I work. Well, people are saying she's dying before our eyes and nobody is doing anything. I mean, is there an erectory?
- It's a real psychological syndrome. - Right. - Yeah, I'm glad as someone who's daughters who are quite fond of her, that she's stepping a psych,
'cause it looks unhealthy. - She looks unhealthy. - It's not my business or whatever it's like, I hope that she gets better. - Okay, what does the panel make
of Bank of America spending two, well, this is somewhat related. Spending roughly $250 million a year on GOP-1 medications for its employees. Bank of America spending...
- It seems like a lot. - For it. I don't get it. Like Bank of America is subsidizing its employees for getting ozempick.
That's weird, because what I heard from captains of industry is they hate ozempick, because it does take away your drive to eat. It also takes away your drive to work a lot. - Yeah, I'm sure, like messes with your energy.
- It does. - It does. - It does. - I mean, it does. - But I just came here.
- Sex life, yes, it's not, I know. Scott Gallaway was here last week.
“He says, "He thinks it's more important than AI.”
Sorry, Scott. I'm not with you on that one." - Maybe they want them to be miserable, and then feel like they should work more, because their lives are so terrible.
I don't know if it's some sort of plan. - I mean, how can we possibly know what this is gonna do in two or three years? - I mean, I honestly-- - I honestly. - Exactly.
- That's very long-tailed.
- It's amazing the way they jump.
So quickly it thinks, and it's like-- - Yeah, it's scary, actually. - Okay, how dangerous is it that the U.S. for the U.S. that our stockpile of cruise missiles has been nearly depleted due to the war in Iran?
- Now, Trump says this is fake news. (audience laughs) How do we know this? I'm very curious about that, because the Pentagon, when Pete took over,
they put a big clamp on what the reporters access to the Pentagon. - Don't let them in the building. - Right, we'll let them in the building, exactly. So I'm just, I'm not saying this is not true.
I'm just asking how do they know it? - Well, they are making up the number of casualties. They literally changed from 18 to 14 on their website. I don't know how we can believe that, but also do we want to fill the munitions
that are losing this war, shouldn't we be using drones like the rest of them cheap drones? I don't understand. - Oh, it's so ridiculous. I mean, they think we want anti-aircraft missiles.
That we're just gonna go out and a limb here, same that's a good thing for a country to have, especially for-- - Well, these are the link ones that shoot down drones, partly on their day-night.
- Yeah. - Okay, so I've been at the Pentagon a couple times in the last few months. - We'll let you in. - Let me in. - What's it like in there?
- It's, it's Ruby. - Is it? (audience laughs) - And you can get lost. It's so, it's so friggin' to me.
- It's a world's biggest office building. - It's, yeah, I mean, it's a city. - It's literally in Pentagon City, and I've put it on itself as anyway, and I was in the Secretary's office.
- And we had a chat. - What do you say? - Well, I'll tell you. - I'll tell you later. (audience laughs)
- Look, this is so far out of my lane, but like the buzz is a symmetrical warfare. The conversation is the, we're never gonna outmanufacture China.
Never in a million years.
They delivered 982 ships last year. We delivered six. All right, we're not even close. So, their companies like Hagerian and Apex and Mach who are actually shooting with them later this week,
but they're making very, very cheap, very lethal weapons. And the thought is, a balloon for instance, at 80,000 feet carrying a kind of payload that would be very bad to have over your country. And that balloon's gotta come down.
“The only way to get it was with a $2 million”
I see BM or a patriot, right? So, the thought is just to flood the zone with these really inexpensive, effective lethal weapons. And that, that was the scuttle, but that's the way forward. - That's the new guerrilla warfare.
Drones are the new guerrilla warfare. - You're great. - You're great already here. - Yeah, that's how they're still in the game. - Every three months, there's new protocols in Ukraine. It's amazing.
It's the new plot of Lyonus.
I know it's already here.
- But it's so cheap too. - It's too cheap.
- But it's in Lyonus already.
It's gotta be real. - Yeah. - Okay. Mike, our tariffs a good way to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US.
- Oh, thanks for that, Bill. That's all. (audience laughing) These are from the people. - Yes, sure.
- Yeah, the people. (audience laughing) Why is it why you mad at that question? - Well, because, look, I, you know, I just had a guy on my podcast.
Terrific guy, he, a Montana knife company. His name is Josh Smith. And he started with nothing. He has 160 employees now. He makes the best knives in the country.
“And I think, I don't want to speak for him,”
but Montana, Missouri, the inclination is, they're rooting for the president, you know. But when you look at the extra $300,000 at cost to bring in a grinder,
from Germany, which is absolutely essential
to doing what they do, you can see that cost is either gonna get passed onto their customers, or they're gonna eat it. So, I'm super sympathetic to a lot of small businesses who are wrestling with workforce, primarily,
and then dealing with this. And I don't think their stories get told enough. (audience applauding) - Very diplomatic. Thank you.
(audience applauding) Stay fair, magazine, I agree on you. (audience laughing) - All right. Final question, and this goes to something I say,
like every week on this show, which is I don't understand the American economy. (audience laughing) Because I was reading recently, I assume it's true, it's published a lot of places
that the upper middle class has gained crazy amounts in the last 10, 20 years. - 'Cause they're investing in the stock market. - I guess what it is. - We're wait.
(audience laughing)
“Like by 30%, that's why we have less of a middle class”
because we have a way bigger upper middle class. And now here's this. And there's survey finds it's 63% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Good both things be possible.
But I always ask that, like how can some people
have so little money and I understand how economies work, but then like so many people can go to a concert, which is thousands of dollars. - Well, not all the tickets or thousands of dollars. - But it's very expensive.
- It is expensive, even just to get like a Coke and some, you know, fries, or whatever. - Or at least 7 million men who don't work. - What are they living for? - They're living on credit in their parents' basement.
- Exactly, yeah. - Disability insurance. We have more people on disability than we've had for a really long time. And the nickel is ever saw book, which is admittedly fantastic.
Talks about that a lot. It's we are paying people to not work. - So these 63% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. These are not these young men because they have no paycheck.
- No paycheck to no paycheck, yeah.
“- And just don't trust us, don't trust that number.”
I mean, the paycheck to paycheck studies are almost all written by activist groups who are trying to say that we have more poverty in this country hidden poverty than we actually do. We do have poverty, and it's a problem.
But we don't have 63% paycheck to paycheck poverty. - You just don't. - You know what I think? The voice of reason. - Thank you.
- See, that's why his thing is reason. - I got it. It was very clever. - Yeah. - It's all right, good.
- I was gonna say that, I don't know about the paycheck to paycheck either, but I'm pretty sure that the lack of participation in the markets is a thing. And I had a chance to kind of drop a name's horribly,
but Secretary Bessant came on the podcast, and I don't know if you ever had another part of it. (audience laughs) - You know, very chatty. - That's a little less impressive than you thought it was.
- Yeah, I don't know. (audience laughs) - But the, oh, it was the Trump account thing, which I thought was an interesting conversation. And I get it, it's not a panacea, it's not perfect.
But for those families to have a kid and to get them in the market, at least in a way that they can monitor it, they can have it, they can participate in some way. I, you know, the fact that so many people in that position
are not only going months to months, they're not saving anything, how could they, that's the tragedy. - Yeah. - Well.
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