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Yeah. We can start the day just by playing audio cuts. Yeah, why don't we do that? I mean, I would just say this. You don't even have to blow it.

We work incredibly hard. Nobody works harder than us. There's my first event. We really work hard.

The reality is today, I didn't have to do any work.

Yeah. All I had to do. They're making it easier. All I had to do is go to social media. Yeah.

And look what Democrats were saying. The audio, it's almost as if it's almost as it resurses as if the Democrats are saying right now. Every day, let's make sure that Eric and Gary's job is the easiest thing in the world to do. Yeah. You know, these guys are getting old, especially that Gary guy.

Yeah. He's getting old. We don't really want to tax him too much. Let's make it easy for Gary. Okay.

Yes. You're younger. That's true. You've been told that. You got a lot more energy.

I don't know about that. I'm going to say, let's not get carried away. Just get on with the audio. Whatcha? I'm going to say, you look better.

Just play the audio. All right. Here we go. First. All right.

First, not necessarily of the, in the order of importance or insanity.

Right. All right. Don't, don't look at the insanity meter just yet. I just sort of spun the wheel and went, okay. The first one landed for Kathy Holkel.

All right. Yeah. Here's. Governor Kathy Holkel in New York. All right.

Here we go. All right. And being conscious of the facts that I need people who are high net worth to support the generous social programs that we want to have in our state. Right. Now, there are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up.

Okay. Cut me the checks.

“I mean, just, if you want to be supportive, but maybe the first step should be go down to Palm Beach and see we can bring back home.”

Because our tech space has been eroded. So, I feel sorry we don't have a problem. It is like, I have to look at the fact that we are in competition with other states who have less of a tax burden on their corporations and their individuals. And I would say remote work changed everything. There are people who could only work in an office in Manhattan and work in New York State.

And they were captives to our state. They were going to stay. They were captives. They were captives. They were captives.

They were, listen. We are not letting snake-pliss can break any of them out. You cannot escape. They were captive. Well, you cannot escape.

New York. What's the other thing I like? Right off the bat where she said, now we have these patriotic rich people that stepped up. Yeah. Well, now they've got to write a check.

Yeah. It's like the check. You're not stepping up unless you're right to check. Yeah. So, she's saying these patriotic.

Now, I didn't know. Now, I will say this. I've lived in a ton of states. Okay. Right.

And I can say states when I live in Oregon. Yeah. It was commonplace for people to say I'm fifth generation Oregonian or sixth generation Oregonian. Or my family was native Oregonian. I don't know how much it's used today.

When I was there, back almost 30 years ago, you heard that a lot. Yeah.

“And coming from New York, as I did, I'm like, what does that mean?”

How do you escape? Oh, that's right. You're poor. You're in radio. And in Texas.

Yeah. You come to Texas. And there is, you know, Texas pride. Yeah. It really is.

I have never, ever.

I'm from Western New York.

Never had New York pride.

I've never heard the concept of New York pride. Oh, oh. There's, there's city pride where people come from. Right. You know, like, for example, I mean, if you're, if you're from Buffalo, you know, western New York,

you're a bills fan. I mean, the pride. Yeah. Now, they may hate so many people. I may hate what the government's doing.

But there's the pride from the geographical area that you're from. Right. In New York City, you know, you know, I'm from Queens or whatever. You know, there's, there's some of that you hear some of that. Exactly.

Right. You know, if you're from, I'm trying to pick a place. I'm trying to pick a place. It would be funny to say. And I can't think of it at all at the top of my head right now.

But I've never heard of New York State Patriotism ever. Yeah. Ever. That doesn't exist. Right.

Well, except with Kathy Holcomb, if rich people will voluntarily cut a check. Right. Because that's what she's asking. No. And you know, what's interesting here is she says, I think the started with the pandemic.

Well, no, no. No. It didn't. It didn't. It started with and you can go back to your, you know, the the former governor.

And Cuomo pretty much had to do the same thing. You know, come on. Help us round up these, all these rich people that went down to Florida and bring him home. I'll cook dinner for you. He said one time.

But it's the first time. Now we've heard Democrats do it. If it's patriotic to pay taxes. Yeah. It's patriotic.

It's patriotic. If you're a patriot, you wish to pay taxes. That's right. Patriot. Now you've heard it on an national level.

Right.

I've never heard it on a state level.

I know. I've never. I've never heard it.

“This is the first time that you should be.”

And then telling the people that have left because of the taxes. You're trying to make communicate the message. If you're a true New York patriot, you'll come back from Florida. And you will pay the taxes. So we can have the generous benefits that we have here in New York state.

I see it all the time. I see it. That kind of patriotism here in Texas. I was at a tractor supply company. And and I saw a guy wearing, you know, hat with an American flag.

He steps up and says, I don't want to pay eight and a quarter percent. I want to pay 20 percent sales tax. I want to pay more because I'm a patriot. I see it all the time. Well, that's the thing though whenever the Democrats do that on the national level.

If you're a true patriot, you would love paint. You would celebrate every month or every year, whatever, paying your taxes. It would be something that would be wonderful.

Yet they can never find anybody who really is voluntarily paying more in tax.

That's right. And when that comes up to these people who say that, that no, we should be willing to do it. People say, well, will you do it? Well, no, everybody should do it. I shouldn't be forced to do it alone.

Well, you just said there's a moral good to doing it. Why aren't you willing to do it if there's a moral good to doing it? Right. It's so much fun dealing with these insane people.

“It's remember Warren Buffett was asked on I think was on CNBC.”

Oh, there is a way for you to pay voluntarily, pay more. Well, no, no, we should be compelled by law. Oh, I see. That's how patriotism works. You should be compelled by law.

So Gary, kids should be compelled by law to stand for the national anthem. Let's see what the liberals do about that. By law will arrest your six year old for not standing during the national anthem. And the pleasure of allegiance at school. You're going to have to also, you'll go to jail.

First great. I say, pre-K. Let's start them early. Hard labor. Compel by law.

Exactly. I've been trying to get that worked in for a long time. No, no, no. No, they're not. No, they're shared.

I like that though. You should be compelled. That's right. If you should be compelled because it's a moral patriotic thing to pay taxes. Yeah.

You should be, you should be mandated to pay more because it's the patriotic thing to do, where we take your property. Right. Well, what's more important? Property rights are freedom of speech rights.

Yeah. Exactly. You know, or the first amendment where government can't compel your speech. Right. What's more important?

Right. That's a great time like that. It's a great opportunity. And I like that. It's a great opportunity.

“You should be compelled by law to be a patriot.”

Yes. We're all for that. Yes. Oh, come on. Would your flags up?

Yeah. Oh, that was just. I love it. Now, see why didn't she bring up taxes? Now, I know no more people are going from New York to Florida.

Well, we're getting more 95 us a straight shot. Yeah, we're getting out of favor. It's very busy because outbound 95.

Well, if we figure she goes, look, all the old codgers that they all go.

Old codgers. Yeah.

I should be talking like, you know, in my mind.

In my mind, I think I've maintained. Yeah. But it's like, we can guilt the old codgers who go to Florida. The rich old people that go to Florida. Well, we might be able to compel them to come back.

You know, we're trying to before. If they go to Texas, nah, we can't compel them to come back. That's real freedom. We can't get them back from Texas. That's real freedom.

We can't get them back from Texas. Oh, my God. I love it. Oh, yeah. By the way, she's from where I'm from.

She's from West New York. Yeah. Okay. But I mean, seriously. And she has a child mentality.

Oh, no, she does. She really does. She sounds like a child speaking. She also has a little bit of that Elizabeth Warren kind of. Why?

Why?

But not only is she sounds like a child.

She sounds like she's trying to compel other children. Yeah. That's what it is. Oh, okay. No.

She's not a child. She's a kindergarten teacher. That's it. I was wrong. I was wrong.

I was wrong. I was wrong. Some of you patriotic children who said the pledge of allegiance. We want you to compel all the other ones together. Or no ice cream for you.

They were held. They were held captive. They were held captive. And then we got to get to the best ending. To the end of that audio cut where she said that.

They were held captive. They were held captive. That's like Snake Plisskin was real. It's like my God. Yeah.

You know, we criticize people all the time for not thinking before they speak.

We're publicans and Democrats.

But Democrats just were held captive. How about this? They were incentivized to work in New York. Yes. Yes.

Yes. It's like do a little bit of homework before you go on and try to make an argument. Hold captive.

“That's how a liberal mind thinks though.”

They were held captive. How can we do that again? We need to hold these people captive. And so that's really going to get. Yeah.

We'd like you to come back if you're rich from Florida. And it's the patriotic thing to do for us to hold you captive in New York. That's right. And if you see, for example in California, that's what they're trying to do. Well, that's not working.

You know, they won't voluntarily come back. You know, we know if they leave. They're not going to voluntarily come back to be held captive. So let's pass a tax law now and make it retroactive. Right.

Yeah. So we can still get them if we can't hold them captive. That's the argument. Yes. Yeah.

Here's the deal for you rich people. You're going to have to sneak out of New York now. What you do is you go by you find one if you can. A 91 Chevy Cavalier. Okay.

You just pack as much as you can in that. Who cares? You're a billionaire. A corvary. A corvary.

Yeah. A shove that. Yeah. That makes you think you have a vet. But you don't really have a vet.

You have a shove that. And it's hatchback. So it's easier to pack. Yeah. And then drive and keep in mind when you're southbound 95. And you're and you're leaving the state of New York.

Those troopers. That's not a speed trap. There they go. Keep you captive. That's that's their job.

Oh my gosh.

“Have they had they voted yet on a border wall for New York?”

Yeah. Yeah. No. It's going to be. Are they escape from New York?

The movie all over again. It's going to be end. What president. Current president is from New York. That would also need to be held captive because he's done.

He's built his empire in the Empire state. He would be in the movie. Who's it? Donald Donald. Donald Pleasant.

Donald Pleasant. What was his name? That that played the. I think he played the. The the president in that movie.

I think. Well, the president would be American. Russell. Snake. Plysskin.

That's how I remember it. Well, they could call it the snake. Plysskin. Yeah. Build a wall around New York.

Yeah. That's it. And New York City. So people. So the rich can't get out.

It's not to keep people from coming in. It's to keep people from leaving. Right.

“Because if you think about it, that's what.”

You know, that's the whole point. We need you here. The whole thing with the retroactive. Billionaires tax. Yeah.

Yeah. And California. And California is the same thing. Yeah. I mean, they make it retroactive because they're trying to put up a virtual wall.

Right. Oh, my god.

I mean, that's.

Like I said, with that's that the show today is going to be playing audio cuts and then discussing.

Because it's like we've got. It was just one of those days where I just went. Okay, let's just do this for change. Let's just start with the. Exactly.

We don't even have to lead. We don't need to lead with the monologue, let them lead with their monologues. Right. Yeah. I mean, we have more coming up.

Because the Democrats on. I mean, on the voter ID, they're just. They're just. They don't have any arguments anymore. They're just.

They're just. I have never. This could. Again, maybe I could go back and find another day in the. You know, decades that I've done this.

This job. And, and find, you know, a day where there were worse or better audio cuts to penny. Not your look. You're looking at it. Well, if you're trying to make an argument.

It's horrible for the Democrats, what they did today. But I can't remember a day where I just went. It's unbelievable. Yeah. So yeah.

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claiming that President stole the election, which election were not sure because she wasn't specific. And this is all about ice at polling places. Here we go. So I would just say if we ever get to the point where you are being asked to put armed ice officers at polling locations, we have lost the plot as a country. We have fundamentally lost it.

And until I hear someone tell me that this man, President Trump, will actually allow us to have a free and fair election. There is zero trust here, and I cannot trust that he won't try and steal it again. Again, again. Just keep it going.

The Russian hopes is never dead.

“Well, I think she means 2016 or does she mean 2024?”

I guess we have to ask her, we don't know, but the argument, the entire thing and somebody brought that up. And I don't, there is no plan. There is no plan to put ice agents and polling places. No, and they've even said that, you know, and I think Mark Wayne Mullen yesterday said, "Well, you know, it's not out of the question if illegal were vote.

You know, illegals were going to vote, and states were allowing them to do that." But the whole point is when they go, "That would be horrible if that happened." When I go to my polling place, there have been police officers at my polling place. Outside. When I go to my polling place, which is a school, there's always the school police officers there.

Now, you know, they don't bother anybody, but why would you have, it's not going to happen. But why would you have it? It's the argument of why would you have ice agents if you had them there? Or not armed. Why would they be there?

To enforce the law to look for people who are possibly illegally in this country and are trying to vote. Right. To tell the reason you would have them there.

“I mean, the fact is not to have not to police in any way any other person that is there.”

Right. But it would be about enforcing, but the law. If Democrats say that there is no fraud, there's hardly any fraud and the legal's don't vote. Yeah.

What are they worried about? They want the ice officers here because they're not out. Right. They'll have nothing to do or illegal immigrants are. Exactly.

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Good morning. Download our Red Eye Radio app. Today you can listen when you choose. I saw Jonathan Turley getting back to the whole. Because that was just so incredibly.

Not. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, is when she said.

And what she was telling. Some of the. The people of New York. That have left not only to come back, but if you have friends that live in. Expo in Florida.

Go down and bring tell them can vent some to come back. Right. Because of New York patriotism. Yeah. Which is just mind boggling.

But Jonathan Turley said. She's just following what Cuba's doing. Cuba's largest newspaper has been telling people that have left. Human gone to the United States. Come back and bring to come back and bring money.

Yeah.

You know, in the communist governments telling people that have left.

You know, please come back. Because she goes. So she's just doing what Cuba's doing. It's like, oh, that's brilliant. Oh, my gosh.

You can't make this up. And that's funny. You know, and one of the things that we've been. We've been talking about. And by the way, we're still looking.

We cannot find the audio cut of Senator Blumenthal saying that. That and it's all over social media and Republicans and conservatives. If you put out something in a quote.

“You should have an audio cut or the text and the source to back it up.”

Don't do what the Democrats do. Right. And it's all over. And it's all Republican sources that are talking about Blumenthal saying that he doesn't know where to find his Bursertificate.

And we said, we saw that yesterday. We didn't, you know, we jumped on it. But we said we don't know whether it's accurate or not. Right. We hope it is accurate because then it would mirror what you're getting.

From Senator Bernie Sanders and Governor Newsom. Right. And it's the point of where Democrats are trying to place stupid. You know, they've, they've, they've realized they can't win the voter ID. Right.

They can't win voter ID anymore by stating that minorities and women. You know, don't know how to, don't know how to do the simple tasks that everybody else can do because that's viewed as racist and sexist. And that's what they got in response from conservative women and conservative minorities. Right. We can do it.

If everybody else does it, we can do it. Right. These are simple tasks that anybody can do to vote and to protect our voting system. That should be a good thing to do. And so they realize, oh, okay, we're being accused of being sexist and racist.

Now, that doesn't seem to stop them with the radical transgender movement for some reason. But it looks like they've moved to a different strategy, which is let's all pretend that we're all stupid. Let's be the stupid idiot leader party, the stupid idiot party and the leaders of the stupid, stupid idiot party that leads the stupid idiot voters. That vote for us. Yes.

“That's what that now we're not calling them stupid idiots.”

That's what the Democrats in charge. That's what Newsom is doing. That's what Bernie Sanders is doing. And what some claim Senator Blumenthal's doing, even though we cannot find the source of that that was appearing on social media. Right.

And so that's one of their new strategies. Let's all pretend that we're stupid. And that way we can say that we're all victims. We're all victims because we're stupid. We don't know how to do the basic things in life that normal people can do.

And so the oppressor would be the Republicans that say you should be able to stand on your own and do simple tasks. Yeah. And imagine the meeting. How do we conduct with the real people with the folks? I guess we're going to have to pretend to be stupid.

We're all about it. Because they're stupid. So let's be stupid. Right. So don't vote for the candidate who says you're not stupid.

You should be able to do simple tasks, both for the candidate that is just li...

A stupid idiot. That's right.

“And so that's one narrative we've seen in the last couple of weeks.”

The other one this one's been around for a while is not making any sense. It's like we don't know where you're going with this. It doesn't make any sense. We call this the the the the putty narrative from Democrats.

We call this the putty from sign fell and there was a scene where Elaineson and argument with them and putty's just going basically doing the.

I know you are but what am I or you know that kind of argument right. She looks just it doesn't you're not even making sense. That's an even applied what we're talking about at all. I don't know where you're going. And this is one of those moments from Jamie Raskin and Jim Jordan.

Okay, where Jamie Raskin is first comes out and talks about the fact that. The founding fathers Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson were undocumented immigrants. Right. All right. Here we go.

Here's this back and forth and at the end you're just like. What's your point? I don't know what it doesn't even apply to this. Here we go. All right.

I make sure the volumes apply because I think this video might or this audio might be a little low. I call it video because I'm looking at the video. Here we go. In voting.

Tom Paine who was an undocumented immigrant who came to.

This land in 1774 two years before the revolution and wrote. Common sense. Number said I think his opening sentence was he said Thomas Paine was an illegal immigrant. My understanding was Mr. Paine was born in the UK came to America then a British colleague in 1774. I was just struggling to figure out how he was.

I didn't say he was an illegal immigrant. I said he was an undocumented immigrant just just like Thomas Jefferson's family was. Most of our ancestors did not arrive here with documents. There's a positive. Wow.

What's the point? Wow. What? What? I'm not saying he was illegal.

I'm saying he's undocumented.

“That's what an undocumented immigrant is.”

It's an illegal immigrant. Yes. I'm I'm I'm waiting for them to pull in. Phil Hartman. Yeah.

To do the you know the the cave man. The cave man who came to the United States. Yeah. You know back. Ten thousand years ago.

Yeah. He wasn't your modern documentation. The cave men weren't documented. And so we shouldn't have to be documented today because cave men weren't. Right.

Christopher Columbus. No documents. None. Not even one. It's just it's absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? You have Gary. An ID to vote. It didn't mean it. It's just carry the thing on.

There are no gun rights when the first cave man.

That's right. When the first cave man walked along with the dinosaurs. Now we're not sure whether it was complete man or eight man. Again coming from the Democrat point of view. But they did not have guns.

And no gun rights or should be no gun rights now. No free speech rights. They couldn't even speak. They would only grunt. And if you grun it wrong day we club you over the head.

There's evidence of it. Somewhere. I probably. I seriously. I mean this is like.

Just like having a teenager. I know. You just it's it's that moment where you go. You know what? You probably need to just go to your room.

You need some quiet time. Don't don't talk anymore. My gosh. Yeah. And I didn't see you illegal.

I said undocumented. Yeah. Also didn't have an ID. Because it's hard to get. Everybody knows.

And I was waiting for this one. They didn't have a cell phone or nothing. And it really doesn't.

“You know, that's that's why we don't need ice.”

And you think about it when when when when when you had many the founding fathers. You know, you come to America. Yeah. Or when any ships came to America.

There was no TSA.

That's right. We don't need the TSA.

Because there was no TSA back in 1776.

That didn't even have pilots for their planes. Right. God. No. I mean, I don't even.

It. It. It really makes my head hurt. The stupidity. And this is where we get to the point of words.

Like, well, you can't say anymore. You can't sit there. And and say, well, you know, I'm. I'm in the middle.

And we need to compromise on what? But we're said over and over again. Where is the compromising? How do you compromise with insanity?

“How do you compromise with people that can't even make a coherent sentence?”

Or. Can't come up with a coherent idea. I mean, was asking. You think rascan was sitting there? And they went, oh, wait a minute.

And all the Democrats are sitting there.

One of the things we always talk about is when any stupid decision is made.

You know, the the bud light decision. Yeah. Everybody sitting around the table in the conference room trying to come up with ideas. And so you sit there and you think did rascan. Did he work shop this?

Oh, no, you know if you know he did where they sitting in room going. Ah, we got the Republicans now. Let's say the Thomas Jefferson and many of the founding fathers were not did not have documents to prove. At that point that they were citizens of the United States back. 260 years ago.

I mean, forget that one document. They all signed together. Forget that one. But no other documents. Just that one.

And they made that one up. And rascan's going, wow. We got him. Yeah.

And I'd be sitting there meeting going.

Don't say that out loud to anyone ever. That's what I would say to them. Don't ever say that again. Are you macro dosing? Yeah, there's something going on.

Are you macro dosing mushrooms now? What's going on? Yeah. You think that's a win? Yeah.

I, I bizarre. If I was seriously, if I was in Congress, I'd pull these people aside. Are you an idiot or what? It's like, well, no, we need to be civil. How can you be civil with insanity?

Yeah, that's absolute over the top. It's insanity. It's an ignorance insanity. Ignorance fueled insanity. That's what that is.

Wow. So yeah, that's. I wanted to play a few audio cuts here to start the show of just, you know, why it's so easy to do this show. George Washington didn't have an Air Force one.

“Where are we killing the planet with this huge plane?”

Seriously. Really? Yeah, George. He only had that little canoe to cross the potential right. Right. A kayak canoe force.

He stood up on a kayak canoe force one. That's right. On Christmas day. Wow. That's just insanity.

It is so ignorant. It's a whole new level of ignorance. It really is. I know. And they think they've got.

They think everybody, because in that meeting at the end of that workshop, they'll what, oh, this is brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant, Jamie. Brilliant.

The founding fathers didn't have documents. How about the one they signed together? Shut up. Who let him in? Oh, my gosh.

I mean, co-new force one. Yeah. That's just insanity. Insanity. We are Red Eye Radio.

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You know, on voter ID. Here's Chuck Schumer. All right. Here we go. This is another one.

Okay. Voter suppression. That is what the Republican Senate is wasting our time on. Pushing a voter suppression bill that most Americans do not support.

A bill that appeals to only the most fringe element of the maga face.

Take a look here. Favorite voter ID to vote. 85% of white people favorite. 82% of Latino. 76% of black Americans favorite.

So the bottom line is this.

Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party. And it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj.

“That in fact you should have a photo ID to be able to vote.”

And, you know, and that was was you speaking during the corner. Yeah. Aaron's in the corner. They're a little thing in the picture of the corner of him. Yeah.

And it's just like CNN fact checking your live now because it's like they can't make an argument. So they make an argument that holds no water with the vast majority of the public. And it's again, there's only one reason they don't want this. And it's fraud. They want fraud.

They want fraud in elections.

They want that fraud to go undetected because you put voter ID into play. And it becomes nearly impossible, not impossible, but nearly impossible to commit fraud. You cut fraud way, way down, and they can't have that. Not to be our news is brought to you by how products. It's at how products.com.

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You know, I read a really interesting article yesterday.

“I think it was it was at foreignpolicy.com, the website.”

And it was just really, really interesting. It was behind a paywall. I was able to get to it. I wasn't able to print it out. I had it on my phone, but I could do it.

But I lost it here from my phone. I was just looking for it right now. And it's like, oh, no, I went to another story and lost it. And I don't know if I can get back to the paywall again. But it was really interesting because it talked about a lot of what we said about

the war against the Iranian regime. And it talked about the fact that, you know, destroying the regime, you know, that we've been tremendously successful integrating their ability to project any type of military power.

Yeah. And they believe that that will be done successfully. But they get into, once you do that, what is the key?

“Because I'm sure you've seen it like I have on social media.”

People claiming that they're talking to people in Iran that say, we're just sitting here waiting for this to end. We're not going out. We're not doing anything. It's not time to do it.

We want the bombing to continue. You've seen a lot of things like that. And I would think that probably they're true. Because from what I know about the Iranian people, they don't like the regime.

The majority don't. The people that are involved in the infrastructure of I guess the regime or the former regime, whatever state it's in right now might still be loyal.

But there would probably come to a point where you're like, okay, it's not worth it anymore. We either, you know, we either go to one side or another. But they talked about the fact of everything that we've talked about. You know, what a civil war get things done.

You know, if you have a civil war, that could go on in that could spread. Refugees, everything that could be that could be a nightmare. You could get a regime. They talked about the possibilities.

All the different possibilities. The other possibility would be that the regime changes, changes, changes, but it's just as brutal. They don't get rid of the Islamic radicalism in there. It's still a theocracy, which just is led by different people,

but still just as brutal, maybe even more brutal after this. That's a possibility. Right. The other possibility is you get a theocracy or a dictatorship

that isn't as brutal has more support of the people because they're not brutal.

Promises change may never get there,

They realize it's an exercise in futility

to challenge the United States and Israel.

Okay, these are all possibilities. All right, and the other one is the people do revolt.

“And it's like, but what happens if the people revolt?”

You know, what happens if the people go to the streets? And the security forces still have their weapons. Because that's the point. You don't need large weapons if the population is unarmed. Right.

And it's like, what do you do then next? Well, what you're going to need to do in the United States and Israel has not said they're going to do that is if they attack the population, you use because you have no,

you have absolutely no worry about defenses in air power. You can use drones.

You can actually get specific.

And you can follow if, for example, there's a gathering and you see the police come out and start shooting there as the people back off, you can take out with the drone any of those people there. Yeah.

You know, excuse me, any of the security forces out there that are doing it. That, and if you don't do that, there's a great unknown as how you're going to have a successful evolution from the regime to what you want, which the the most optimistic thing you would want would be right now.

It seems to have the former Shaw and his government of the community. The former Shaw's, the former Shaw's son, in power with the transition government, but security would be there. Who provides the security for that?

How do you get to that point?

“The only way you get to that point is when the people start”

protesting and going out into the streets, the US and Israel is there to kill any of the police forces. They're attempting to put down the popular revolt at that point. Yeah. And that gets complicated.

Yeah. So, Heidi, and that's the thing. And they made the point, the same points that we were making. I'm not concerned at all. I mean, it would stupid when you got the media out there saying,

"Are we winning? Of course we're winning." Yeah. I don't, at this point, the score is clearly us everything, them nothing. We've eliminated so much of their ability and so much of their leadership.

I'm not concerned, are we winning? And I think the president is likely, it sounds like, especially this week, is looking at the long game.

“That's what I've always looked at in a situation like this.”

Because I'm, you know, absolutely close, because I don't have the intel. I don't have the information in front of me. But you get down to the basics of everything you just laid out. Right?

We know of the vacuums created in other nations when we were, we had a presence, a rack, and then we got out. But this is totally different. Afghanistan, totally different.

This is totally different. And what's different is, we have Middle East countries now that are more accepting of what we're doing. And Iran's attack on a couple more

of those countries yesterday or two more attacks on those, on a couple of those countries yesterday was further cementing that position I believe. I also believe that there's likely this window that the administration sees and says,

"All right, look, we need to make sure that we get this done and complete this mission." And we can't, as the President said the other day, I don't want to be back here in two years. But you also know that the clock is ticking

when it comes to the confidence of those other Middle Eastern nations. They're looking at this. And if you don't have the follow-through and they lose confidence in you,

then there's no telling where they stand in the future. And I think everything hinges on the fact that the US and Israel have to complete the mission. And again, it's not that there's a clock on it, but you do have a certain window

that you're going to have to meet. I think to keep that confidence in the Middle East. Or, and I could be, or I'm totally wrong on that. And the confidence is there because they know there's no way the other option is, right?

And the binary choice, the other option is, well, we let Iran come back. And for them, those other Middle Eastern countries,

I think that is a non-starter.

That cannot happen.

“Well, if you get, I saw a couple of hours ago”

that the Saudi Foreign Minister was out there saying

we're going to protect our energy. Yeah. And there's a thought process that they may be getting a lot more involved. Or maybe more involved than they are right now.

And if Saudi gets involved, then we've said probably one of the things that the President looks at. And the reason that it seems like everything has changed since last week. And I say everything has changed,

not in the war, but in the narrative. There is no heavy in the hall. And it's like, well, we're going to get out of as soon as possible. But we're going to complete the job.

Right. And that seems to have been made last weekend. And we're saying, you know,

there is the the the the the the thought out there.

Yeah, but Europe isn't cooperating. But then I saw the head of NATO saying, no, the allies are getting involved to keep the straight. We have to.

We have no choice. We have to get involved. This is about our security also. Right. So it also may be.

It's really interesting because you seem to have more vocal support from the Middle Eastern nations like I said a couple of hours ago or yesterday when the NATO had said that. No, we're we'll be involved in this.

Which is why we asked the question. Is that why the president is much more confident in the messaging that we're going to complete, you know, the entire job to get peace in the Middle East because that's the goal piece in the Middle East because

he's getting that support from the Middle Eastern countries. And even though there's vocal opposition from European countries, when it comes to NATO, like I said, no, we're we'll be involved in this.

We have no choice. We've got to get involved in making sure that the straight is is clear and, you know, and we support the United States on this. So there's so much, you know,

I don't know whether it's social media or not,

“but that's why you and I tend not to pay attention”

a lot of times to what's first said. And I don't know, maybe in the age of social media, it's not what you say, but what you actually do. And we'll see what happens here, but. And so the in this article is reading from form policy.com.

They were saying, you know, if we're not going to go in and put

a half million crown troops on there to make sure that there's

there's, you know, that there's peace. But if you do, if you get an interim government in and you have special forces from the Israelis and the United States with the security zone around the nuclear stuff, you know, that you've got, you've got that taken care of what

you might have to have to do. Then the United States and Israel, if the security forces start attacking the population, you continue to attack them with air power and drones. You can be much more precise with drones if they started

attacking, especially in terrain, you can make a statement. And then you can follow them back. Whoever these people are, you can do it. It may take a while, but in the minds of the American public, if the protestor out there and you see that.

And then you see with the interim government as back, even though these things are popping up and the police are doing it, the American public will be much for using our technology at that point to get rid of the people who are attacking the unarmed population who wants democracy.

Right. And but it's still going to be complicated and it could go on for a long time. So if you look at those choices, really like three or four out of the, well, two of the choices would be preferable. And that would be you still get a dictatorship that does not want to challenge

the United States or you start on the road to freedom with the interim government. Right. Those would be the only two that you could possibly accept. Right. Because anything else could be an absolute disaster.

Right. And you know, the the point that's being made is whether totally unprepared for that. Are they or do they have a plan? I don't know. Yeah. That's a big enough.

Right. Just because they haven't said yet doesn't mean they haven't, you know, said, okay, what do we do afterwards? Right. How do we do it?

“How do we protect the Iranian people at that point?”

Because that's key. Right. But that is, is that a, is that a hard job with the technology that we have? If there's no air defenses. And one of the other thing that's talked about is at that point,

you can use regular planes. There are no air defenses. There's nothing that they can do. But you can use drones. You can use drones to get absolutely precise. All right, here come the, we know what the technology is.

Here come the security forces. Where do they come from? Right.

Blow it all the hell.

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Because no one's talked really about what do you do.

“And that's what I've been searching for.”

Who are the military people out there saying what possibly, what possibly could we do? And they talked about the air power and Libya helped overthrow it. Even though might not have been even some of the ex military people were part of that. Hmm. They said, but air power actually helped change that.

And they said, you know, air power itself, you know, doesn't, doesn't give you the ultimate victory of that you want all the time. But it gives you a lot more than it did even 30 years ago. It gives you a greater dominance. Yes.