04-16-26 Part One - Swalwell Scandal Intensifies

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We're Red Eye Radio all across America. Welcome, and good morning. What's up? We hope swallows well with you. You know, I was reading that article just so you know,

because I was applying to somebody on Twitter yesterday, and when I was applying to them, and it was somebody I know, Guy hired way back in Buffalo, who's a sports guy, and I was watching his podcast yesterday, and I said, "Watchin' it, as I lay on bed, trying to recoup from this stomach,

“buggin', all of a sudden, people were messaging me, "Are you okay?”

Thought you were alright, you were at work yesterday." Yeah, I was at work yesterday, you know, I wasn't feeling good at all, so I slept all day yesterday. So when I sleep in a whole day, sleeping and then waking up and just looking at the phone. It's what I was doing all day.

Yeah, yeah. And so, but, and for some reason, I didn't see the article in the Wall Street Journal, then, and when you said that, when you walked in and you said, "You see that Wall Street Journal article, the timeline on swallwell?" Yeah.

How could I not see that? Oh, I did was look at my phone.

Well, I never got out of bed, but it didn't post until they didn't post it until,

what, 839 hour time. Oh, maybe that's why you didn't see it. That's why you didn't see it. That's why I didn't see it. Because I couldn't understand why I did not.

But really, I mean, you look at the key date. Was November 21st when that one influencer, what Mrs. Frazel, or whatever. Yeah. They call her.

I can't, their founders are last name. She was on a Zoom call with him. And so, she posted the next day. You know, he just seems like such a normal guy. And that's when she got three messages from women that said, "No."

And that's where the whole thing started. Well, and I mean, that's where that's not where Starfer for Swallwell. That's where it, I can see that at the beginning of the day, where people started outside of his friends, who might have known, or Guy Ago, who might have known.

Right.

“By the way, I think this is going to come back and haunt him big time.”

Yeah, Guy Ago. Yeah. You and I talked about that off the air briefly yesterday. And I think so too. I think there is because it is, this is, or has to be,

or should be. I would say should be a reckoning moment for the Democratic Party as they stayed here or elude to in the, in the article at the Wall Street Journal. But that November 21st date, with that, regarding the influencer,

is key because the day before is when he was on Kimmel, November 20th, when he announced he was running for governor. You know, and there's this picture, it's a still shot. And of course, we know Kimmel. We know his politics, and he's sitting there,

and he's got Eric Swallwell on the couch, and he's, and he's, you know, got this glyphol look on his face. You know, like, this buddy Stephen Colbert, these late night activists, they're not comedians, they're not hosts, they're activists.

“And so there's that, and I think to myself,”

all right, well, Kimmel wouldn't have known. I don't know what the relationship between Kimmel and Swallwell is,

but it goes back to what you and I have always talked about.

The people come and go. The people that I support, I support on the issues. I don't know them personally. I don't know what they've done in their personal life. There are very few people that I could, like, fully endorse.

You're one of them, and I'm still, you know, on the fence on that one. Hey, it's, but no, but I think of people like my father, people that, other men that I've known or women that I've known that want to run for office. It's a very small group for a reason in terms of a full-on endorsement

as in, I know them as a person. The asterisk I would even add to that is, I don't trust anyone completely. So everybody has a secret, right? You know, years ago, my secret was I liked Ice Coffee,

and now Starbucks has made trillions of dollars out of it. Oh, my gosh, that makes my kids used to go, oh, Dad, that was so gross when they were small, because I wanted, it was summer in Texas. I just gone for a drug.

and they couldn't figure it out.

But yeah, that was one of my secrets for the longest time. But there's, and that could be the downfall, maybe of my political career, if I ever aspire to do that. But if you look at this timeline though, with Swallow,

it is basically a question of who knew and and way. Was there a pattern of behavior? We have heard about in the halls on Capitol Hill, about various members of Congress, being engaged in whatever type of behavior

that would be frowned upon if known by the public.

Not necessarily always illegal behavior,

but heavy drinking, or whatever it might be. And that, sometimes they put it out there on their own social media. But it's, it's been a thing for several years now. What's going on with members of Congress, right?

What's going on in their lives? So you look at, there's, you know, the Republican in Texas that had to step down, based on more information coming from his past and the text there, the electronic trail that exists.

“And I think to myself, well, if you're Swallow,”

because when this started to really fall in the last couple of months,

but really at the beginning of April, his last event as a campaign, as a campaign for governor, was April 7th. That was it. Then he missed a couple of events after that. And in one case, his campaign said he wasn't feeling well.

But it was clear there were things that were coming down. I don't know if it was evidence or whatever it is, but there was something happening, and he was going to stay out of the public eye and wanted to stay away from the media more succinctly.

That is what, that there's the timeline of this downfall.

“But you have to go back to, you know, again,”

the fact that there was, there was an electronic trail. When we talk about these allegations, we don't know what's true, what's not. But when we talk about these allegations, all of them weren't an investigation.

And now, officially, there are, well, investigations with the women coming forward. That's a huge problem. That, well, and it's multiple women. Right. And you hear now,

the total number, according to Ms. Razzled, was the, at least 31 men have contacted her about various things, whether he made him feel comfortable, right, right, whatever, harassment, yes. But it's a total of 30 now.

Right. And so, that is a very consistent, if accurate and true pattern of behavior. And then, then you see, did you see the, I saw it on social media yesterday. It was his, the commercial of him, you know, running for governor.

Oh, yeah. With his wife, and they're walking hand in hand, and I'm like, "Oh, God." And, and you just, you know, I don't know, you know, if, if, even if I was involved in a relationship, you know,

for me, it's almost impossible to date two women at the same time. Or you might not find two women. You said, well, yeah, okay, you're going back to my own line, which by the way, I used a long time ago in, you know, in, in, amateur stand up comedy stuff. Yeah. I said, never cheated on a woman that would require two women at the same time to like me. So of course, I mean, that's like simultaneous interest from two women. Right. And it's like, well, then you've never had the temptation Gary, so you don't know. That's something you would brag about. But I just wouldn't, you know, to to me that would never.

Let's forget about the morality of it. It's the fact that forget just set aside more, I'm sorry, I'm like a Democrat now. Just set aside the morality part. It's just sex. No, no, I'm, I'm trying to make it for the, for the debate here now. Right. And, and that's, you go into a certain profession.

“Where you know, remember, Swallwell shortly ran for president in 2020. Yeah. Yeah. He did. So he's in into the United States to be clear. Right. So, what, what, what is it? And then he's running for the, the governor of California.”

What is there something inside? Because I would be a nervous wreck. Well, if I, I would feel like cameras are following me the whole time, the moment I decided to run.

It is true and you're under the watch for lie. Well, and so I'm not going to, I'm not going to drink ice coffee in front of anybody.

And, and with social media, as you said, everybody has a camera and everybody is coming after you because the way the Wall Street Journal broke it down when this happened on November 21st. This is a woman who is a Democrat. Yeah.

“You know, who liked Swallwell? And that's why this all started. And then it just kept growing and growing and growing and growing and growing.”

But these were people that weren't directly involved or like his best friends or involved, you know, in the Democratic leadership or the Democrats and Congress. Right. Well, and, but, but what is it? I would get an, I would get an ulcer. And even if I had no conscience at all. And of course, for me, if I was doing stuff like that, the Catholic guilt would just get to me. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Why? Why did my parents grow Catholicism? Yeah. I'm Scottish. I think. You know, so the, the Catholic guilt would get to me. But I just, I could not, I could not continue then to say, you know, if I was in a safe place.

You know, that's just how my mind would think if I had no conscience. That, okay, I've stayed here and nobody's got me. But if I continue even doing this as a Congress person, and I'm attacking the other side all the time, and I'm talking about women's rights and treating women rights and the me to movement and going after Kavanaugh. While at the same time, leaving the receipts out there that if anybody wants to do any type of investigation. By the way, that receipt thing worked there. Yeah, it did. It, those are receipts. If anybody wants to do any type of investigation, they got you.

And again, multiple accounts by, with, with allegedly multiple individuals on, on an electronic trail, it may not be 30, but there are multiple individuals according to the investigation. And by the way, I'm not even talking about the rate charges here because that, that's, as we know, that's breaking the law. Yes, but I'm talking about just your career of, of, of doing all of this. And you may not care, ah, you know, I really don't love my wife. I pretend I do because she's, she's the political wife.

She's the political trophy wife. That's some support for some people. Yeah, she's my political trophy wife here. And I don't care if we get a divorce, you know, my daughters, I don't care about them.

Because you and I've always said this.

If you cheat on your family, you're cheating on your family. Yeah, you're cheating on your kids.

“And so there's no conscience there, but is there no sense of self preservation?”

I mean, there seems to be no. No, no. In this type of thing, there seems to be no even sense of self preservation that this is going to destroy me. Maybe I should go and I've, I've made some money here. I've made some influence. Let me go and just quit this and join MS now. And then I can cheat do whatever I want and nobody really cares anymore.

Or have you go through the divorce and you go be the playboy that you think you are. I don't, you can do that. But when you include the serious allegations, again, we don't know what's accurate and true. But when you include the serious allegations, if those are accurate and true, if all of these allegations are accurate and true, what you're looking at is somebody who is not worried about anything at all because they believe they are far beyond

reproach. They believe they are invincible. They believe that this behavior is not only acceptable, but welcome. Which means you're. By their victims and that is a, that is a deranged mind.

Period. It's a delusion. Yeah, I was, you said deranged. I was going to throw, I was going to say delusional. Yes.

And we talk about the Democrats being delusional because you're really, I was looking at the number of, of Democrats or a couple of Democrats yesterday, you know, talking about the fact of, no, men need to play women sports.

“And like, I think some of them actually believe it now.”

No, they actually believe it. I mean, the delusional. The delusional. So if you've got delusion, you know, if you've got delusion in one area of your life, does it encompass all of your life?

Is everything? Is everything a fantasy? Is nothing real? Is love not real? Is feelings not real?

They're not real? They're not real? They're not real? They're not real?

There have been situations where people have been living in, basically, a false, marital setup, purely for political purposes.

Yeah.

“I don't know that that's the case with the swallows.”

I don't know that it, that all, it's out of place here.

How they would did it? How they would. Yeah, pretend they were dating. Yeah, they really were. Yeah.

I mean, you know, there's people that ask a lot of questions about the Clintons. You know, because you have to. You do. When Hillary was running in 2016, they built the built-a wall around the Hillary. Forget the wall on the board of the built-a wall.

Remember that? To keep the media. Because the younger media, time had passed. The new generation of media was asking questions about bill. Yeah.

And they had to keep her separated from the media. Do you remember that? Yeah. So, you know, those are questions that come up. And again, you know, you look at this situation.

It is, I think, should be. I don't know that it will be. A reckoning moment certainly for the Democratic Party. Oh, no, no. I don't know that they're going to do anything differently.

“But the question is, well, then how do you keep it from becoming public?”

Because what they don't. If they don't see it. What they should know is that these activists don't care about a swallow. Even if they're liberal themselves. They don't care about swallow.

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So I'm looking here from a Bill Malusion. We have this update from him coming on Swallwell here in just a minute and a half. And yeah, we're going to talk more about that. And we've got there's so much on the table. You and I were talking about live golf and everything else.

And so it's what's going on right now, though, with the Swallwell thing is just unbelievable. Okay, I thought we were going somewhere else again. I've got it here. It's the, I thought you had something else you wanted to bring up. Sorry.

“What did we miscommunicate for a second there that never happens?”

I was just waving my hands like Tim Balls. Yeah, he was waving his hands. So I thought something was going on. I just want to join his way. Yeah.

Okay. Now I understand. Yeah. But he's got it here. And this is a prompt for Swallwell.

And I just want to throw this in. We're going to, you know, we've got other places to go. But the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says the alleged rape of Lana Drew's by Eric Swallwell took place in July of 2018 and the 900 block of Hammond Street. This comes back to the Montrose hotel. Yeah.

Campaign finance expert Rob Pires has flagged a travel expense from Swallwell's campaign at the time with federal election committee records showing Swallwell for Congress. Three hundred and sixty one in travel expenses at the Montrose hotel on July 18th, 2018. That's the problem. That's the problem that you have. If you're a member of Congress.

How. You, you. The internet has so many sleuths. Yeah. That will, that will do it.

If you're not squeaky clean. Now, the public is willing to accept.

“That's we know non squeaky clean politicians.”

It's not that, you know, we're not, we're not looking for mother Teresa. Right. So yes. So there are a lot of things. But then there are some things that just aren't accepted.

Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape, whatever. Right. Those allegations come and and you're just, you're just screwed. But if they haven't, it politicians haven't learned. You know, I go back to when I started with you.

And, and it was, you know, 20 years ago. So YouTube was just starting out. But still we had access to audio cuts from the past. Yeah. I'll never forget.

You said you just said politicians walk around like the internet doesn't exist. Right. And this is even early on. Yeah. Well, the internet is times a billion what it was back then.

Oh, social media now you include, you know, beyond YouTube. Because back then, the comment was, because we took the, basically it was a Tim

Russell approach and thought because they would say things and say, well, I never did that

or that never happened. And it's like, are you kidding me? YouTube exists. And it's all over the internet. You can find it.

You can find the comment that you made. You can find the video of the comment you made. When you made it. And so those are, you know, that was the approach then. But now you're under the spotlight for everything.

Uh, Mayor Mombone's wife. Kind of apologizing for post she's made or comments she's made in the past. By the way, this would be my approach if I had to apologize for something. And he's also my or the apologizing for something. She said about cabin' off.

But here's the thing. Basically said he can't. He doesn't understand the hourly worker. Yeah, he probably doesn't even know. His parents are professionals.

He probably doesn't know any people that work hourly. Yeah. And so, you know, and that was. She believed offensive where she now believes or as she's now saying she believes. It was offensive and she said it publicly.

And which is fine. But here's the deal.

“I think when you apologize, you should say, here's what my comments work.”

Here's what I said are posted.

And here's why I am sorry for for doing that because what you see in the media is. I'm sorry for something in the past I did. And that was from Sotomayor. And the first lady of New York City. And that's what you get.

Which, of course, liberal activists in the media don't do half the time. And they'll say, well, the Sotomayor said some disparaging remarks. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, give me the quote. Right. And when you apologize to me, it's not a full apology.

Until you say, here's what I posted.

Here's what I said verbatim. And here's why it was wrong for me to do that. That to me is a full apology. And would be acceptable even if I'm not the target of what you said immediately. But of course, they won't do that.

I apologize for things I've done wrong in the past. The fake, my favorite. I'm apologize if you were, excuse me. I apologize if you were hurt by what I said. Exactly.

Not, I apologize for what I said. I apologize if you were hurt for what I said. And there's an important distinction. Right. Because you're, if you're saying, I'm apologize if you were hurt by it.

Then you're not saying, I too believe it was wrong. And here's why it was wrong.

“I think a full apology requires you to, again,”

quote what you posted or said verbatim and say, here's why it was wrong for me to say it. And look, the reason we bring this up is, you know, just with swallow and just, you know, what we see in the median and apologies and, you know,

we're bringing up sort of my order there is, you and I've done this for, together, 21 years. Yeah. I've been doing talk radio going on 36 years,

36 years, radio in general, 44. It's, there is, I don't think there's any medium that exists right now. Maybe podcasting now. But if you look over that time of the last,

you know, 44, 45 years. There's no medium that is more ad lib than what we do. Right.

You were, I've never had to apologize for anything we've ever said

on the air. No, not once. No. No. And the point is, if the two idiots overnight can figure out how to

articulate ideas and comment and be severely critical,

“because that's, let's be honest, that's what we do.”

You know, we can compliment, but we also can be severely critical of someone and never have to apologize. And these people are apologizing, you know, every couple of months they apologize for something

that they say. Right. What is it? It's almost as if, you know, you and I do this show and I leave and I go to an interview

somewhere in some podcast and go. And Eric Hurley is a complete moron. Yeah. Right. And then it comes back to, you know,

here on the air and I'm like, well, Eric, I'm sorry if you were hurt by what I said. Right. Well, no, I'm sorry that hurt your feelings. Or the fact that I didn't have,

that I didn't have in my mind. I didn't understand that I'm doing a podcast. People will listen to it. Yeah. Something will tell you.

Yeah. And we'll make the, like the trademark,

“you and I remember the one that made the,”

when you make the trademark, it seems it made the, what do you call it? It was a message. It was a message. Yeah, radio messaging board.

Yeah. And you and I, but it was a pretty popular message in board at that time. Oh, very active. And it was when Eric and I said,

and we still aren't, we're not, you know, we're not Facebook friends. Right. You know, we, you know, we just didn't want it at the time.

We didn't want to know what each other was doing all the time. You know, that was it. Right. And we talked about it on the air. How we weren't Facebook friends.

And why it is important to the show. Right. And we explained why man that got distorted. Those guys aren't friends. You know, they're not Facebook friends.

I heard him say it. They're not Facebook friends. They're really not friends all on the air. Or off the air. Which means they're not really friends on the air.

They're just doing this. It's all fake. And it's like. Yeah. And it's like.

And so you and I always remember if that,

and that was, goes back. That 15 years. Oh, at least at least. At least. At least.

And so it's what gets me is, you know, whether and sort of my ear is not a swallwell case. But still you just wonder how. What type of ego. I, what would be the word describe it?

I think I said it yesterday. Bulletproof narcissism. Yeah. That you believe that nothing can touch you.

How do you get to that?

I can do whatever I want.

I'm a public figure. I can do whatever I want. I can say whatever I want. And in your mind. You think there are no consequences.

Or nobody is watching you. And nobody might be out to destroy you. Right.

“Well, I mean, how do you not recognize that in this day and age?”

Exactly. And especially when you're speaking and with justice, so to my ear. By the way, I thought it was kind of mundane. Because I myself can't even prove that Kevin on knows any hour workers. I mean, I don't know.

I just felt in, you know, with the swallwell thing, everything falling out.

This week and so many things going on. Well, yeah. Just remember to touch the basketball. Well, yeah. But who did he actually know?

But no, no, it's because what you was trying to do at that point was diminish his experience or understanding which it is actually very serious. And we're just talking about it. They Supreme Court justice. It is there should be consideration of if you believe this.

Then maybe I feel like maybe you don't have a full understanding of this. That's one thing. But it was more of a personal jab. And that personal jab is what really people had to issue. Well, just so people know the background on it.

It was the case with the Supreme Court set full of course. That ice can use as part of their formation of who might be an illegal immigrant that they can use, you know, race or ethnicity as part of it. Of course they can. Of course they can.

Of course they can. And so that was her shot was because, again, if you're talking about day laborers out there, she said, well, he's insensitive because he doesn't know which one has nothing to do with the other. That's the whole thing. Whether you know how are we workers or not or whether you are not really worker or not.

And it was strictly a personal jab. That's what made it a serious comment. And it wasn't on the issue as it often is not with the left side of the bench. And, you know, it's, you know, and I just thought to myself, by the way, of all the things sort of my or should apologize for.

“I think, well, is that on the top of the list?”

She did say, quote, I regret my hurtful comments. I have apologized to my colleague. Yes. So yeah. But still, how did she know that that at the moment? In the moment.

That's because what you say is what you say is, I don't think there was enough consideration for this or this or this. I don't have to get personal. I look at the thought process of forming an opinion in the case of a Supreme Court Justice in that case. And saying, I don't believe there was enough thought given to this. That's criticizing the opinion or the opinion making process.

Right? And so that is fully on record. It goes in the hearings you can see it going back and forth. That's fine. But it was a personal jack.

And, you know, I mean, basically he had some kind of privilege. And, and it because the implication is that he's bigoted based on his privilege. And that is a very serious comment. Getting back to Swallwell.

“I'd like to just one day just experience what it is like.”

You know, I've often said I'd like to get into the mind of have a Vulcan mind meld to have the mind of a liberal. Like the one was that the did you see that we'll play this audio coming up. The, the, the, the, uh, the Secretary of State of Wisconsin was at the woman who was screaming that, you know, the tailion outside. This is climate change. Oh, yeah.

I just, I would always like to get into the mind, just Vulcan mind meld for a day.

Then I just would take it out of it. Right. Yeah. But part of my mind would have to be there to analyze what's going on. Just to see how what the thought process is inside a human mind, you know, that does that.

And the, and the, and like I said with with all of this, I'd like to just know what it's like to feel. Have a bulletproof, narcissistic personality. Right. Where you think that you can get away with anything. Yeah.

Yeah, that's extremely foreign to me. Yeah. That really is. We are run I radio. We'll be right back with more run I radio with every currently and Gary McNamara.

We are run I radio. He's a crony and I'm Gary McNamara. Yeah, here it is. The Secretary of the state. Sarah Goodlowski in Wisconsin.

Okay. You ready? Here we go. Right. Republican state.

We don't have climate change.

But this is gone.

“We're going to be right back with the state.”

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We don't have climate change. But this is gone. All sides. Hail in my front yard. This is not normal.

And we can't keep ignoring our environment. Do they have psychological problems? Yeah. I've got it. It's a question.

Is there other. Are these psychological problems?

Because no Wisconsin has.

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Good morning. Thank you for being here. Thanks a lot. I want to play it again. I'm playing again.

That's fun. Sometimes there's an audio country just so good. This is Wisconsin Democratic Secretary of State. Sarah Goodlitz. Goodlowski.

Okay. And it's hailing. Looks like at her house. Uh, all right. And they had some ale.

And Wisconsin. Yeah. Over the last 36 hours. Which happens when you have thunderstorm. It does.

But here's her response. Okay. Here we go. Republicans say we don't have climate change. But this is golf all sides hailed in my backyard.

This is not normal. Can't keep ignoring our environment.

“Is what she is saying based in any type of fact at all?”

No. No. Is there any is there any basis to what she said in reality? No. And how do we know this from the Wisconsin State?

Climateology office. Ah. Maybe she should check with her own state. Ah. Uh, hail falls in Wisconsin.

Like it does in most states. But in Wisconsin, normally April to September, the peak is in June. Yeah. The state experiences storms with large hail. Three quarters of an inch or larger.

Uh, and golf all sides would be 1.6 inches. Uh, roughly 20 to 30 days annually. Yeah. That's a month. 20 to 30 days would be a month in that period between April and September.

And they talk about that on, uh, uh, yesterday severe storms. Uh, in Dane County produced, uh, foreign hail storm stones, which of course has happened before the largest hail storm recorded in Wisconsin was 5.7 inches diameter. Uh, in 1921. Yeah.

There you go. Yeah. Uh, and, uh, most hail occurs in the afternoon between 2 and 6 p.m. Yeah. So it's normal.

You know, it's expected or to say given the conditions, it is normal for those conditions. Yes. Yes. And that massive thunderstorm will get if you are in a state where you get massive thunderstorms. Mm-hmm.

You can get hail. Yeah. And a story. Yep. So like we're getting, and next to the next one, we're getting lightning Wisconsin.

We're getting lightning. We have clouds. This is a normal. Why is the sun coming up every morning? It's nice air.

Really? I, this, we're to the point where the insanity is so great.

“You have to ask, do they have some type of emotional mental problem?”

Is there a mental challenge that, for example, she is facing? She's out there screaming on her front porch, and it's like, tail. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, it's, and you can see tornado alley.

How it goes all the way from, you know, Oklahoma. They say, you know, I was looking at analysis of it, and they said, well, no, Texas is not the worst. Yeah. But more happen in Texas. I go, that's not how you judge it.

You judge it for square mile. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because Texas is so big.

Right. Yeah. You get more tornadoes. Yeah. Think Oklahoma was number one.

And well, you can, you can look at it. You look at that Oklahoma city. Yeah. Yeah.

Joplin, you know, if you were to put like a circle around those three, basically, there are parts of the year.

We know the Joplin tornado of 2011. Massive, massive storm and damage. I went there to an event the following year. And we helped erase some money for the victims. But it's something you and I have a friend who, in fact, who's who was in that in the direct path of that tornado.

There's a documentary out about it. Kevin. No. It's a truck driver. Okay.

David Foster, who was a longtime truck driver and his truck actually received a little bit of damage. As much as you would think, his neighbor's house, and this is how tornadoes work. His neighbor's house was completely obliterated. His house stood after the tornado.

But it was unbelievable how powerful this tornado was where I come from last Friday, where I graduated high school, which

was in the 12th Hall of Texas, April 10th, 1979. So last Friday would have been the anniversary. And it was what would be an EF5 today, a mile wide at its base. And it was, I had family members that actually were in a vehicle. And that vehicle was picked up and dropped six times from that tornado.

Point being is that it's possible anywhere.

“Remember the downtown tornado and Fort Worth.”

Oh, yeah. Well, that was. I remember that's when I was. That's when a couple weeks, like a week earlier, I had decided that I was going to come here. Yeah.

And I was supposed to give Bob a call. Yeah. And the dad's supposed to give him a call. The tornado hit. Yeah.

I'm not calling him knowing that a news radio news talk radio station.

Like, why am I going to bother him today? Yeah. My gosh, the tornado just moved through downtown Fort Worth. I saw the damage. I go, he's too busy.

Right. So I called him like two days later. He goes, where have you been? I thought you weren't interested. You had a tornado going through downtown Fort Worth.

Yeah. That's right. It was, it was big.

“I remember it was the Cinco de Mayo storm.”

It wasn't a tornado. But that goes back to 90. Five, 96.

But the hail that came down was unreal.

Yeah. And I drove through another part of that system that was massive parental reign. You just, the kind of reign you can't see, the hood of your vehicle. But it happens. And it happens across the country.

I mean, we've seen, you know, there's the zone for the higher probabilities. But right. It happens if the conditions are right. And you can look at it. It's the, it's the relationship between, you know,

so much of it. Arctic fronts. Gulf moisture. Right. Where the jet stream's going.

Yep.

“And so it's, but when you see something like that, it's hail.”

Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's a normal occurrence in Wisconsin. It's consistent. It happens at this time of the year.

And there she is, you know, screaming climate change and Republicans. The end of the world. When, uh, yesterday was a day where I would again affirm to me. The Democratic Party is not going to change at all. Right.

They are not going to change at all on any issue. They are going to be bat, soup, crazy. There will be things that I disagree with Republicans on. There will be, I don't like the economic populism of the Republican Party. But that's actually in the mainstream of debate.

The economic populism of, well, you know, our government can run it better. You know, and we look at one of the examples as Josh Holley's saying. We need to limit, uh, uh, uh, uh, interest rates on, uh, on credit cards to 10%. Oh, I saw somebody did a figure of how many people would lose their credit cards. It said tens of millions of people would lose their credit cards.

Oh, yeah. 10%. Yeah. Be unbelievable. Yeah.

But he, he's one of them. But even though people, you him is a good conservative. He believes in, uh, more government control of economics. Yeah. He has his own socialist bent to him.

Mm-hmm. You know, the whole terror thing. You know, tariffs, you know, I saw an article yesterday. Uh, well, yeah, tariffs a time can be necessary. We've said, yeah, we've agreed with it.

But when you say, I am going to, I am going to manipulate the economy based on government control, again, of prices, which it is, and by taxation of American companies,

Right. Well, economically arrogant. Well, bullet proof. Nurses are under a 26 team.

“Who wasn't that set on the campaign trail?”

I agree with Mr. Trump on tariffs. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders. Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't, but, but that's, I will say, that's all in the mainstream of argument. Tariffs are not new. No. And all of that is in the mainstream of arguments. And so we can very healthy debate as to when they can be used effectively.

Right.

And, and when it's, you know, ultimately becomes a problem for the economy.

Right. Yeah. And, and so, uh, with, uh, you know, with that, we can, we can debate that. Mm-hmm. That isn't insanity.

What we're dealing with the Democrats now, every single day is insanity. Yeah. Oh, by the way, the people that I met over the weekend. Mm-hmm. And I did bring up the woman thing.

Mm-hmm. But what do I want to say about the Democrat? Well, can they identify what a woman is?

“Should a woman be in a woman's, should a man be in a woman's locker?”

And I said, when you, that's your base. And that's one of the number one things that you've talked about that you promoted. Mm-hmm. That the, the, the party that you support more. Uh, then there is no logic.

There is no critical thinking.

Right. There's no critical thinking. Right. There's none to that. Right.

You may look at the Republicans and say, well, I think that policy is wrong. And at times can be mean fine. You know, you can sit to say, okay, but it's too aggressive. But then therefore, I believe it's mean. But what you believe is nuts.

Mm-hmm. It's insane. Yeah. Right. And again, we're going to debate.

You say mean. And I say, well, yeah, but what your, whether it's taxes or whatever. It's like, yeah, but what you're saying is somebody should pay for what you want. So I can say you're actually the one that's mean. Because you're, you know, your, your, your opinion's based on jealousy and envy.

Right. Not wanting to pay your own way. I go, we can have that to, but we can have that debate go back and forth. But is that debate insane? Is that debate insane?

Like a man can be a woman if the man says so. No. That's insane. That's nuts. They can't be.

Do you have compassion? And that's the whole point. And this is where Republicans have to fight back all the time. Because the point will be if you're going to agree to that, then you're mean. Right. If we can't change science altogether, right, you're a bigot.

Right. You're a bigot. You're mean, whatever. And it's like, and, and you were really, and you don't care. And it's like, no, I'd, you saw the thing, but Dave Chappelle. Hmm.

Dave Chappelle said that conservatives weaponized his trans-committed bits. What a coward he just became. Yeah. That's, that's weaponizing. That wasn't weaponizing. Yeah. He's the one that made the comments. He made the comments that aligned.

And what conservatives believe and he knows the truth. They were newsworthy comments. He knew, in fact, talks about how it was going to be all over when he, you know, it's going to be all over the news when he's talking about it when he's making jokes about it. Yeah.

It wasn't being weaponized by the way for a moment. That Dave Chappelle was becoming a conservative. No. It said that I'm like, yeah. What are you talking about?

Right.

“He said that, I think it was, I saw the story was yesterday.”

Yeah. But Dave Chappelle, why? Yeah. No. On the issue, again, you're a high profile individual. You're in the arena of public ideas, even as a comedian.

In fact, especially Dave Chappelle because that became a thing with him. And he knows it. That's a cop out. Yeah. That's a cop out.

He was courageous first to do it and then said, nope.

I got to go back to being a coward. Right. Somehow buying, I don't know, straight crowd, do you think? Or whatever? From the left?

No. You know, he knows the points that he made initially. About being canceled for this, being canceled for that. And he pointed out other comedians that had been canceled for things they had said. And all of that. Those were all valid points.

And worthy of discussion. There is no weaponization of it. Dave Chappelle has stated here it is from NPR has it. Dave Chappelle has stated that he resents all members of the Republican Party have weaponized his jokes about the transgender community. Distinguishing his comedic intent with the political agendas of conservatives.

No, that's absolutely a cop out because the fact of the matter is he doesn't just make jokes.

No. He's in part an activist on stage. His number one role is a comedian. But his approach has been social commentary for the last several years. Maybe not at first.

If you go back to his early days, maybe not as much. But certainly now. And he talks about it. There are times when he'll sit down on the stool. And he starts having very serious conversations and telling very serious stories.

Well, now you've entered the arena of public ideas. Yep. And you're making commentary. And it's going to make the news.

And when it does make the news.

There's going to be some analysis of it. And opinion makers are going to look at it. And I look at the content of what he said.

“I will say, tell me, Dave, where you were wrong in anything that you said, right?”

Because weaponizing, that's just, that's a cop out. Tell me what you said in any of those jokes that was wrong. Again, we'll go back to the apology thing. Tell me what you said verbatim and tell me why it was wrong. Because you're the one that said it.

You wrote it. This came for you or tell me specifically what the weaponization is. Exactly. Because that's the whole point. And who said it?

Oh, oh, oh, what's his name? The baseball guy. When he was talking about the Olympics. Hmm. Can think it was name.

Hmm. You know, come on. Turn off the lights in the studio. Oh, Bob Cossas. Bob Cossas.

Yeah.

“A lot of people are using this to be mean talking about Republicans.”

That's false. Yeah. I don't hear any Republicans mocking transgenders. No. I don't know anybody in the Republican or conservative mainstream doing it.

In fact, we're the ones talking about that the left doesn't have compassion. Because the left just says, let's not find out if they need mental health services. Because you're the ones that are saying if you don't agree with their biological emotions that they'll commit suicide instead of getting them that help that they need. You're saying, let children cut off their body parts.

Well, and there's no compassion there. And with Chappelle, he was making points that the right wasn't making in his comedy. Yeah, you're right. He was. Yeah.

Saying at one point on stage in one of his bits. I don't care who you are.

“You came into this world from a woman's body.”

So tell me, Dave, where you got it wrong. Yeah. So yeah, it's just what a cop out. Yeah. What a cop out.

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Coming up on the bottom of the hour. I got questions yesterday on the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact that after Virginia, after the Governor of Virginia, passed it for their state, which is whatever the popular vote is, is the way that their electors would go in the state of Virginia in a presidential election.

And when they get to 270, it would kick in, but then immediately it would go to a, it would go to a Supreme, it would go to the courts.

“And I believe it would be struck down and we'll tell you why.”

Because that's the question I got. Is this constitutional? We've covered this many times before and when other states were doing it, but no state has decided to join for a while. Now Virginia has, we'll tell you why we believe it's constitution.

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Stomach's doing great and and I feel great. But the the question came up from some listeners and a friend about the the Virginia and the national pop your vote interstate compact. And the funny thing is I heard it, you know, they're going to do it. We've actually done it so many times for a moment.

“I just ignored it because I believe the Supreme Court will blow it out if it ever gets to the Supreme Court.”

And this is where you've got a bunch of liberal states that have said we want to we want to take our electors in our state. And whatever way the country goes in the popular vote, that's where our electors will go. Right. I believe that's unconstitutional. Now, their argument is it's not unconstitutional.

And because the constitutional laws, the state, the right to allocate electoral votes. However, they wish to do it. That article two section one says Grand State legislators, the power, the absolute power to appoint electors in any manner they choose. And so that's how that's what they use. And so they also they have said that in the 2020 ruling Supreme Court ruling a firm that states can legally bind their electors to vote for a specific candidate, which proponents see as a boost to the legal standing.

That's from Brookings Institute. I was trying to find out their arguments. Both to me are weak. The the the the biggest argument against it is article one section 10, which prohibits states from entering into agreements or compacts with other state without the consent of Congress. It's compact. That's what it's called. Yeah, right.

You can't do that. No. You can and so to me, it doesn't matter whether they you know, they they quote the article two section one that says, It says, it grants a state legislature. The absolute authority to appoint electors in any manner they choose.

The state legislature as we know.

Uh, 30 was a 20 years ago 30 years ago almost got into a fight in a bar because of that. Well, I was somebody was talking about the presidential election. I said, well, you know, there is no right for the individual vote, the presidential election. Guy want to get in a fight with me. You come again. I got nothing. It's not the point. He was just he was smashed. Yeah, which again is a great reason not to have any type of political arguments.

Well, in a in a in a bar, but it was set up where the, you know, every state has said, yeah, the people can vote. The people can vote what the the people vote in the state, how they vote. That's where, you know, our electors will go. Sure. And they can say it all goes to one candidate. They can proportionate. They can do whatever they want. But it is based on each election. Each specific election and where the voters go. Yeah, one way or another. Right.

It is representative in each and every election.

That to me is the second point is that what the Democrats wish to do is put it on automatic pilot.

By the way, what will eventually change this is if a Republican wins the popular vote. If they ever got to that level, if they got to the popular vote and a Republican wins. And then all those states have to officially say that they endorsed a Republican.

“But the fact is when you have a state that's an automatic pilot, it doesn't matter how our state votes.”

Right. We have to go by what the country did. That's not representing the people. The original giving the states the power to, you know, tell the electors who to vote for is not a plan that says what other states do, we must agree to. Right.

Like a pack big right a compact with with which is number one, but the number two thing is the immediacy. Everything's on automatic pilot then your state can vote with the people of your state can vote one way. And it doesn't matter how they vote. Hmm. Unless they're going to say we're not going to vote anymore, but they're not going to do that.

Right. They're going to tell the people they can vote for it. No. So the people are going to have a vote. And Virginia will say as other states will say your vote doesn't count because the popular vote went this way. So we're going to go with the way that they went. And in a swing state and a state like Virginia, it could go either way. Yeah. Right.

“That's what I believe also is unconstitutional. Nobody's ever brought that up.”

But it's the fact that number one, you can't go into account. You can't agree with other states to do something that will affect a federal level. You can't do that. You cannot go into a compact like that and do that without the approval of Congress. Right. Number two. You don't. There is no immediate representative government working.

And making a decision in each election. It's preordained. If the legislature wishes to say if they wish to take it away from the people and say the legislature will choose the electors. Or where are we go? Or the legislators will vote for who they want to be president and the electors have to follow that in each election.

That's fine. What they're saying is, no, this is permanent. Any election doesn't matter. We will automatically go with what other states do.

“No. That's what I believe is unconstitutional.”

Yeah. I think I think it's because you lose your, you lose your, you lose. And that hasn't, I think we're the only ones that ever brought up and brought that up specifically. Well, to me, it's the most obvious point.

Well, because of the legal stuff they always use, well, it's, it can't go through because states can't go into a compact.

They can't all decide to do something on their own without their approval of Congress. Right. Yeah. It's the most obvious to me. But I think the interesting thing is that as Democrats scream no kings. The Democratic Party is constantly trying to take the ability of a representative government of the people away from the people.

And they're doing it in Virginia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Democrats have said, we don't give a damn what you think.

No, we're going to join other states, which means other states have the influence over your state.

In fact, we'll agree, tell me how that's constitutional. Well, forget about either party, you know, whether you're agree with them or not. What the state has done is said, we are going to go with what other states do. Right. So the will of the people doesn't matter.

We don't care what the people want. Right. Because right now it's not the legislature voting to pick, you know, the electors. It's the people of Virginia. So the Democrats in Virginia are telling the people of Virginia to hell with you.

Right. You don't matter. Right.

“Well, is it surprising that they do this with after we saw what happened with Kamala Harris?”

And so it's really fascinating that the party that's, and this is where we talk about projection.

The people that come out as we've said before with the identity politics of the Democratic Party, when they scream your racist, you're like, no, actually you are in the radical because of identity politics. You're the ones that judge people by groups and not individuals. We don't. We judge you by policy when you look at the radical transgender movement.

And they say, if you don't agree with it, you're not compassionate and you're mean. No, you're mean because you're butchers. You're telling me that these people are mentally sick. That's the argument from the left. The argument from the left is they're mentally sick.

What do you mean they're left to say in that? They're the ones that are saying, if you bring up or question the transgender movement. That the transgender transgenders have the highest rate of suicide. And we'll kill themselves if you don't agree with it. And so your solution is to allow children to butcher themselves.

Yeah. I mean, for God's sake, wake up and then we know the misogyny of it all with the sports. And remember the Charlotte Observer? Yeah, and girls just have to get used to male genitalia. Well, again, this is what's happening here with all of these states banding together in this way.

They believe they found a loophole in the constitution that allows them to do this and ignore the will of the people of their own states. Yeah. And it's all Democrat states that have done it when Democrats are in power. Republicans aren't doing this. Right.

It was all Democrat states to try to kick Trump off the ballot. The Supreme Court had an knock him down. Right. It's the Democrats said time after time, after time or the ones that are saying we don't give a damn about democracy. And they're out there going, no kings.

This is what we have found out about the left.

“Whenever they project something out, understand that's what they are.”

That's exactly what they are. And this is exactly what they're doing. We'll join with other states and, sorry, you don't, you're too stupid to decide. Right. What do you think doesn't matter?

Right. That if you vote, you're vote doesn't matter. Who's the threat to democracy? It's not Trump. No.

Man, I hope he addresses this in his third term.

Well, let's see what happens. I think maybe the fourth or fifth. It could be in the fifth, maybe. Yeah, that would be. But the sixth and final term probably is something he's going to have to nail it by then.

“This is what this is exactly by by by the sixth term when he's 145.”

He's wealthy. You know, there's there's things that that he can arrange with a medical community. Yeah, you know, we're just joking. It will be barren. But the whole, this whole idea of, again, what they're trying to do, what the attempt is.

Well, strength and numbers, right. Get, get, what they think they found a loophole in the constitution that allows. The mob to rule that the popular vote to rule. Right. Right.

Even in the electoral college. Well, no, you don't get to do that. Right. You, you don't get to short circuit it. You don't get to short circuit and electoral college, which specifically was for individual states.

Right. To elect a president and not the popular vote. Right. And say that that doesn't matter anymore. We have found a loophole to allow the popular vote to decide a presidential election and not the electoral college.

Right. And that's key right there. It's obvious that's what they're trying to do.

And when you look at the, the compact clause, which is, no, you can't get into a compact.

But 18 other states to do this, you would need congressional approval. I think you need more than congressional approval.

“I think you need to change the way we do elections under the Constitution.”

Exactly. You need a constitutional amendment. Yeah. Yeah. So.

And we'll talk more about this coming up. Because a couple other things we want to say on it. We are right. I radio. Get in touch with what I radio told free at 186.

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When I had never, you know, again, and people know the story of me.

I was forced to be a radio talk show host. I didn't want to be one. And whatever the electoral college would come up. I mean, because it's coming up even 35 years ago. And I first became a talk show host.

And in the 70s, when it was talked about in the 80s, I was always,

“well, it seems like the popular vote were democracy, right?”

I fell into that, that same trap. Until I actually researched, why do we have an electoral college? Oh, the same reason we have a Senate.

Oh, let me investigate this.

Oh, now I know. It didn't take me. That that was one of the shortest things it took me to change my mind. Well, when you're ignorant on something, right, and you get the facts, it's pretty easy.

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