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Welcome and good morning. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Well, everybody knows how you and I both love music.
Right? Oh, yeah, I love music. And I just just wanted to mention this real quick here, because I thought it was fascinating yesterday, and I was telling you this at the top of the hour. I love Billy Corgan from the smashing pumpkins. I love his podcast. Yeah. He brings on just some great, the magnificent others. Yes. And even though he closes his eyes too much for me,
“we can lean back. Yeah, well, I'll ask you to ask questions. He just closes his eyes for like it's like, are you awake?”
The Democrats we're looking at, they go, he's falling asleep like Trump. But he had Todd rendering on yesterday. The people, if you're my age, you know him, hello, it's me. What is it? Do we got to get you a woman? You wrote that for me. And then lived Tyler's original dad. Four years? Oh, yes. She got Todd Rungren. Yes, that's a great point. Yes, you did. Yes. Yes. Great point. Yeah. And I saw the light. And then, you know, he did a bunch of other stuff. But he's actually,
you know, known for he started out. And still is today. I mean, as he talked about yesterday,
his major thing has always been engineering and, you know, producing records. Yeah. He's produced.
I mean, he produced meatloves bad on a hell. Yeah. Right. But when you, when you, he was, he was talking about, just, and I thought this was great. He said music, you know, rock music, 50s, 60s, 70s, classic rock, punk, new wave, grunge, Taylor Swift. And Billy Corgan from the smashing pumpkins, why? And he said gaming. He said there is no, there has been no male audience for new rock. Young teenage males are not buying, started back in the 90s with gaming. Yeah. And they've spent
all their money doing that. And they don't buy music, and the only ones, the only market, really left for mass consumption of music is women. When, whoa, that's really interesting. Well, no, you look at at, um, it's, it's really interesting. The gaming industry,
“really did capture the, I think the male ego, really, because gaming is about competition.”
Now, I mean, if you're, if you go to Twitch or YouTube, you can sit and watch gamers. Those gamers are getting paid to play video games. And there's, there's a countless number of them. And they're making millions of dollars a year doing it. But before that happened, leading up to that, what built this was an industry that was making video games, and they were, they were becoming more and more sophisticated in the graphics and everything else.
And then it became, when it became, the, the ability came about to go live and you could put your headset on and hear the other players, right, because of the internet. The gaming industry started spending as much money or more than movie studios did on blockbusters. And it was crazy. And the, the difference in a blockbuster movie is, if you're talking about the theatrical release, you go and you buy your ticket for, I don't know how much your ticket is anymore.
But 15 bucks, whatever it is. Well, the gamers want to own the game. They want to, they'll pay big money because they want to, they want to be the best.
They want to compete with their friends, strangers, whoever it is.
And it's, it's kind of an ego thing. It's a competitive thing. I don't know if ego's the right word,
“ego plays into competition or competitive spirit to some extent. But, but really, that competitive thing,”
where quite frankly, they don't have to be really physically disciplined to do it.
They just have to be basically addicted to the video games.
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And I never allowed video games in the house.
My girls never wanted to play. My son didn't take much interest. He had a Nintendo Game Boy, which was a handheld thing. And that was about the most. He kind of watches every once in a while, some of the gamers
on Twitch or on YouTube or wherever. But he's not that into it. But the gamers that are, they'll tell you. They'll sit and play an entire weekend and look up and realize the weekend is gone. It's insane how dedicated they are.
But Todd Rungren makes a point that I knew this with movies
when it came to movies. Hollywood took a huge hit. 'Cause guys didn't really want to spend money on going to the movies. Sorry, if they had any time, they were going to be more and more dedicated. A good, a large number of them, two being in, you know,
being in their living room or a bedroom or wherever. Plan the game. But when you talk about the demographics that push pop music, you can combine what Todd Rungren says with also with what Rick Biato says. Another great follow, if you're going to follow, if you like music,
I agree. I like the Corgan interviews on the magnificent others. And he interviews from all genres and everything else. It's mostly rock. And then you look at what Rick Biato said recently. He said, you know, back in the day, if you're going to make a record today,
if you're going to be successful, you likely have to have some money behind you.
“Basically, you have to, he was saying you have to have rich parents.”
But you have to have, you're going to have to put a bunch of money into recording. It doesn't work the same way it worked before. And the point he was making was, you know, if you look at artists like the Beatles were all poor, you could apply this, I saw that episode. Yeah, you could, you could apply this to Black Sabbath.
You could apply this, these are people that grew up dirt poor. And their artistry was, you know, in part a result of that experience of their lives. And so it not only changed how music is made. Because it used to be a bunch of old guys and, you know, that would look at a band and go, well, all the kids are going to see this band signed them to a deal.
And let's make them rich. Well, it's a classic Frank's app of video where he said, you know, I'd rather have it with the, with the old guys jumping on the cigars, you know, sitting there going, what the hell is this crap? I don't know. But it seems to be sort of, you know, the kids seem to like it go, go produce it. He goes, now these old, these young slick guys, you know, come in, you know, that they think they're
hip and everything else and they're trying to direct where they feel the market's going. And they don't have a clue. But just getting back to the original thing about, where music is going, that, you know, I thought it was interesting that it's all female. You know, the massive, the massive artists, you know, the absolute massive artists are appealing to women. They're not appealing to men because it is very interesting when they
said gaming, gaming's the young men over the last 30 years have focused on that and purchasing
That and not purchasing music and not purchasing tickets.
the older folks, you know, but you look at it, you don't see a lot of upcoming rock bands that you
“would think, you know, males want not that they don't exist, but not on the massive scale”
of those massive artists that are selling to primarily women. There's also another aspect and I saw this from an author who was actually looking to get an interview and I read the
synopsis of what the description was, why males are basically checking out and it's across all
demographics, young and older and they're not participating in social media, they're not spending money on things they used to spend money on, whether it's hobbies or whatever else. So, you know, gamers, notwithstanding, there's this checking out of, I don't want to be and because if you think about social media and a lot of the emotion on social media, that appeals to females.
“There's, you know, whether it's a cute baby video or someone ranting about something,”
you know, and then all of a sudden, well, I'm going to share that and, you know, it's
all every the TikTok age appeals primarily, mostly to women and guys don't like that kind of,
it's because it's filled with drama. It's filled with things that, you know, aren't part of their everyday life and women are interested in somebody else's conversation. Men aren't. And so they're checking out more and more and it's really interesting when you can bind all of these observations here of where the society is going. You know, I don't ever see myself becoming a reckless, but I feel much more comfortable outside, like yesterday.
I was working like crazy outside, it was hot, it was great. I don't care if I've got ice around my neck, and I've got, you know, plenty of ice water and electrolytes and all my tools, I feel right at home and I would rather do that than sit on social media. Now social media is a part of our job, but if it weren't a part of my job, I wouldn't be on it. Well, I like the, the, the lawn work, but about about half as much as you do. I don't have as
the love or the addiction to it. It seems as, as you have, it's okay. I like it. I like being busy. I like, you know, how it looks afterwards. You seem to have a, but I'd say, well, mine, mine includes more, I mean, lawns one day, but, but most days, it's a project. And it's like, you know, whether it's putting something together, building something, creating something, you know, those are the things for me that are meaningful, at at least at this point in my life,
because again, somebody else's drama on social media, I, you and I have to sift through all the drama in order to get to the actual substance of any issue and, and maybe that's a part of it. Well, when it comes to the, again, I'm not going to get into your definition of a project versus my definition of a project. But by the time that word enters my mind, I call the guy. But yeah, I will say that. And I'm the guy. Exactly. I call Eric. Yeah, I'm one of my house and take
“care of this for me. We have this. But I, I've always, I'm not kidding. I remember in college,”
I loved pinball. The real pinball. Mm-hmm. And then space member space invaders came out. Sure. And after that, I've hated video games. For me, for me, I've got like a, I hate game, you know, video games and game, I hate it. I have no interest. It annoys the hell out of me. I remember when I used to belong, when I used to belong to the golf club, this goes back 25 years ago. And the buddies I used to go with, the, the place they would hang out
afterwards, we called it the golf bar. They would sit there and play the, I'd never played it once.
They would play the video game golf game. Mm-hmm. To the point where they'd stay up so late that we had a tea time and they'd miss it the next morning. Mm-hmm. They'd miss a tea time to play a golf game. Mm-hmm. And I was in bed five hours before because I wanted to golf the next
Morning.
I hate video games. I hate, I get irritated. Yeah. I don't, I don't see the point in them at all.
“I just, I would rather, I remember saying to the guys, I remember going, guys, you know,”
I'm, I'm going home. I, I want to golf for the morning. Well, we, we're having a great turn him in here. I'm like, have this, have the passion on the golf, don't drink in the golf course and have a passion to score well there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, to be. I don't see them. I go, I don't get the point of pounding down more beers to play a game and then being ticked off and you don't play the game well. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, you know, it's, I just, by the way,
I don't think I yelled like that at them. Well, you know, again, I just want to go. And the point of when we went to an arcade when we were young was that there was a social aspect that was real. There were other people actually in the room. Well, you, remember skateboard. You told the ball down. There was all those, the big circles, the little circles you throw. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
“I remember skateboard. And then I did like the, the, the bar bowling. Not the puck.”
There used to be one where you could, you'd roll the ball that the, the old bowling games. That was really, really cool. Yeah. And then even puck bowling, I get into a, for a while, but it's why you're, again, other people were in the room. Other people in the room and you're actually throwing the, it's not levers. It's not buttons. It's not animation. Yeah. Maybe fake pins, but yeah. And impossible to get a seven done split. Yeah. We are right. I radio brought to you by
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Where would I radio? He is early and I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. Wow. Yesterday the New York Times on three different women who commented on a Graham Platner. He sent a candidate in Maine. Here's one headline. He hated women, explosive abuse, and he knew, but at least the girlfriends knew, and one in particular said, "Yeah, we all knew it was a concentration camp." Tatoo. Here's Platner yesterday on MS now with the one allegation that the girlfriend knew
in all of her friends knew, here it is. I do want to follow one place on this and I don't want to
get two friends. The Times basically reported that they saw text of hers, including a text
“in August I believe August 3rd of last year. This would be before October last year, in which she”
basically said that you had a quote Nazi tattoo and she joked about how she's going to go volunteer for Collins. Now again this is a text that got sent so like we can place the time, right? This is an August. How does she know it's a Nazi tattoo in August of last year and you don't know it's not Nazi tattoo in August of last year? Well she certainly didn't send that text to me. So whoever she sent it to and was talking to, that's I can't say why, but I will say that I certainly didn't know
and the text message was she sending to friends who may have recognized it, that's they didn't tell me that. No, I believe it. This thing is going to end and it was like I said it was
Sheldon White House yesterday.
is the one that first said no he knew. Well and the woman again according to the allegations she's
“basically telling her friends that he's saying it a lot. He talks, these things that he said,”
he's repeated them. You know often and so again it comes down to the believability which is why this week he had to go to DC and meet with Democrats in the Senate to try and ease their minds. The question is did he do a good job of it? On our website, when I really will show that show info with stations, podcasts, and more, let me
I agree with you. And he is our proline I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning,
interesting Eric that one of the three women that was quoted in the the New York Times about Graham Platner is someone a lot of people know. Apparently she's actually been in conservative
“circles the other two were not the other two were I think our main Democrats. But it was interesting”
the number of people that knew who she was. Mary Catherine Ham. Right, you've seen her on Fox News a lot. She said I heard of this guy as a dark and imbalanced character for years. Women know
that special kind of friends X who's full last name you know long after they dated because of the
badness and then he runs for Senate and you're like wait that guy and it's hard to speak up about a guy like that who has quite a bit of power and seeks more. But my friend Lindsey's accusations are specific and detailed about what happened and didn't backed by the physical diaries and text from long before he ran. They confirmed that the man with the Nazi tattoo does indeed have a bunch of bad decision-making and impulse control problems and his behavior can be more than unsettling if he's
healing which last week's story doesn't indicate he should do it somewhere other than the Senate. Yeah. And what you saw yesterday also I mean the number of rumors out there the New York Times didn't release a full story. Don't know that's true or not but that was all over social media. Well and it's and and yeah of other women and it's hard to know you know again if that's true.
“But what the unknown is is the biggest problem. And that's what Democrats have been putting on”
full display this week. Their question is are we gonna learn more about him? More things will they be coming out will more women be talking between now and November 3rd and that's he clearly is concerned that's why he had to go meet with Democrats in the Senate. One of his ex-girlfriends and we just mentioned her Lindsey is it five-feld whatever told the New York Times the two men in 2013 when he was a George Washington University student and she was with the U.S. Chamber
of Commerce with the growing presence in conservative circles. She recounted a plant that would poke fun at his chest tattoo of a toten cough and told the paper that the Platinum explained he and other members of his military unit shows it because of parallels between them and the SS. Wow. In that they were a death unit killers which appears to contradict his narrative that he did not know that the tattoo was associated with the Nazi emblem. Right. She also
recalled how he would sharpen an axe while watching television and talk about raping home invaders. I'm not gonna get into all the details but he gets into specific how you know he said it's
He said this a lot not once he said this a lot if anybody ever broke in here ...
rape them but not in a sexual or gay way saying instead it would impose dominance over them
“and he believed that rape was about power. She also described public encounter where”
Platinum reportedly pulled her out of a taxi by her wrist during an altercation and she goes on to other altercations where she said he reportedly pushed her into a bedroom held the door shut she was later able to leave after following a sleep and walking or waking after some time had had had passed.
The problem is this is not becoming a daily thing and will continue to be a daily thing because
everybody in the media is all looking forward including the establishment Democrat media that doesn't want him to run. They don't want him to run. Well you know you have to ask yourself if you're in their position is any of this ever going to be cleared up and the answer is no. So how effective is he in the role in the Senate? First of all how effective is he in the race I mean that's that's what it takes to get there because now everything is on the defensive.
And this by comparison before the voters in Maine this makes Susan Collins more attractive.
“I think there was an appeal early on with Platinum like they're often is the fresh face, right?”
Someone who's younger maybe someone who's more liberal you know someone who's whatever it is but a lot of it has to do with the fresh face. I mean Susan Collins is no Uber conservative but she doesn't carry the baggage. She's been in the Senate for a long time then has nowhere near the baggage and certainly not the kind of baggage that Platinum has
and he's not even there yet. You know I saw Nate Silver yesterday not a Republican Trump supporter
he said keep in mind that if you're defending Platinum at this point you're signing up for
“four more months of defending an obvious pathological liar. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.”
I just it's and and that's you know this is the problem it's fascinating how these things move because you know let's say if you're a Democrat and you know in Maine and you vote and he gets in well or if you're in the party you know you're supporting them you're endorsing them whatever it is there's there's another thing by the way but let's say he gets in he wins okay now you can't trust him on anything beyond beyond that he's in the role and from day one he's
not to be trusted so then you know there's the other thing on the endorsements because now the endorsers it was weird look we didn't know how they were coming up with these strange defenses of him having a Nazi tattoo but as witnesses are speaking if you're going to believe the witnesses and this is you know this is the court of public opinion here this is what this is all about so it's about whether these witnesses are to be believed or not
and if they are to be believed then you as the endorser whoever it is burning anybody else in the party now you're taking the questions about platinum now everything you do all of your agenda items and or your campaign if you're running for reelection this cycle you're having to deal with it and you don't want that well it's also the credibility problem the more people that come out and the more that the democrat establishment media comes out and and promotes this like I said the
New York Times by running this story means the establishment democrats want platinum going and all of that all of that has changed in this in this one week yeah you haven't seen you
Haven't seen like you did at the beginning of the week how dare that woman in...
out and and talk about what the wife said about platinum you're not hearing how dare these women come
“out no to unjustly you're not hearing that to unjustly make accusations no and one of them anonymously”
your name is it even so I mean this is ridiculous you're not hearing that no and the problem the problem is
I'm laughing and having because I can't believe where we've gone here over the over the last couple of decades but the problem here is a SS concentration camp tattoo yeah I mean you just can't get around that when you had it on for 18 years and then said oh no I do what it was exactly and when people start coming out and saying yes he did he knew specifically what it was about well then it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't go away because nobody buys it and the reason I
mentioned eight silver is because he not somebody who's a you know saying I want the Republicans to dominate in the Senate right uh getting to Scott to to uh to Pele now you're ready all right this is interesting this came from uh Cheryl Accuson she was interviewed yesterday and said hmm a former CBS news investigative reporter right Cheryl Accuson Scott Pele was not a popular anchor in terms of his skill as an anchor as well as his personality
quite a while before they removed him I was told by a level above David Rhodes that they were trying to fix what they called the Scott Pele problem wow that's my new band the Scott Pele problem the Pele problems it's got it's got to be a that's got to be a punk band right oh you know definitely without question uh a new a new uh lots arrogant arrogant punk arrogant punk rock genre arrogant punk that's got it oh whoa one of the issues they had with him was as it was told to
me he takes his managing editor role too seriously he was interfering with the correspondent stories in a way that was not productive long time CBS names that you would recognize were complaining to the high executives my experience was when they named him I was told by higher ups that the new show without Katie Kerrick with Scott Pele is going to be all about what you do your investigative
“reporting and the very first week the first investigative piece one of the best things I think I”
ever did that I offered them he censored it never aired that was the pattern and the story at least
for me of the Scott Pele at the anchor desk yeah interesting and then the other one I wanted to get to because I thought this was really interesting and this is one of the head ups at MS now and uh this was Greta Van Sustrin had posted this and again you can't look at Greta Van Sustrin and say you know she's a Republican Trump lackey right yeah no not at all says Andy and he lacked told Stephanie rule from MS now that the situation of 60 minutes is sad and that he's stunned
how Barry Weiss has handled the situation and that Pele did not deserve to be treated the way that he was this is Greta Van Sustrin now she goes lack is the guy who with Phil Griffin fired me when my ratings were up 94% over the show I replaced in six months because I would not say what MSNBC wanted me to say I was told to play ball which I knew to be intellectually dishonest
lack is saying this now oh brother and then she writes never was I told at CNN or Fox
or now newsmax what to say I was shocked what I discovered at MSNBC but I just ignored them
“and did my job fairly honestly and fact driven to the best of my ability for the shareholders”
and so lack in Griffin fired me and now lack is commenting on Pele's firing you can't make this stuff up now I will say this I mean I could be wrong I don't know her but she doesn't seem to be somebody who blows up easily Greta Van Sustrin does she no ever or that she has an agenda to
Take somebody out yeah no just because she just likes him no she might be abo...
that she's never put that on display for sure if she is yeah wow and then here's this one
“Rachel Mado invites fired CBS correspondent Scott Pele to join her network okay we are right I”
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we're running radio and he's our running I'm Gary McNamara so if you if you're going to put
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what would the date be over the summer august 15 and that's being generous right now for the
governor it's only 60 percent mayor 69 percent beyond stupid isn't it that's beyond stupid
“the Republicans need to take this and just say it's deliberately you cannot do well but this this”
hurts their messaging a believing this is the right thing to do right and the fact that they're pointing their finger at Trump saying he's a threat to democracy yeah it's just you guys can't even count once I'll go with august or all right this is riddy radio on Westwood one we're for sichern zwar keine löven but we beat in löven stark schutz für deine liebsten ob hunt Katze oder fährt mit der tierkanken
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